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jesta_g
17-01-2009, 01:24 PM
I realise many are against Obama, I personally am still to convict to any conclusion and have always believed that both sides should be brought to light.


this is highly suggested viewing.




Download/watch it while it's still online...

Part I

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2228340498938753446&ei=g9hsSbPdL5KsiAKZzNiPBw&q=The+Hyperdimensional+Election+of+Barack+Obama+an d+2012+

Part II

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2791685914120845487&ei=g9hsSbPdL5KsiAKZzNiPBw&hl=en


Based on Hyperdimensional Physics, Hoagland successfully predicted the historic results of this election almost two years ago! In this production, based on further application of this HD Model, Hoagland now presents never-before-seen clues to what America and the world may expect from this incoming, unique "Hyperdimensional Obama Administration" -- including, what Barack Obama may finally do with NASA's decades of classified data on intelligent artifacts discovered on the Moon and Mars, as well as what could be in store for all of us at the end of Obama's first term ... in "2012."

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 01:28 PM
Part I - (very basic summary)

One of the main reasons that Hoagland predicted Obama would be President is that Obama said "We are the one's we've been waiting for," quoting Hopi Prophecy. When he made that prediction, George Noory bet against him that Obama wouldn't be President. Hoagland said if he won, he wanted to host
Coast to Coast am. If Noory won he said Hoagland wouldn't be on Coast to Coast for a year. Hoagland said he wants to host the Jan. 20, 2008 show but I checked and the schedule doesn't go that far ahead yet.

Next, Hoagland comments on the outfits the Obama's wore on winning the election. Hoagland compares Michelle's dress to a Black Widow Spider.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...WW3yH/610x.jpg
He says that Obama's demeanor changed when he won and he became more serious...not necessarily happy. He says that both Barack & Michelle realize that their job is going to be extremely difficult from here on in.

Mentions Barack's close relationship with his Grandmother and "had an upbringing that destroys you or makes you stronger."

Hyperdimensional Physics is a background to reality. Theory describing how energy (invisible force) flows into the Solar System. Has the power to destroy entire worlds.

Based on double-interlocking tetrahedrons. Goes into the 19.5 degree points (gates) on the planets (especially Jupiter and the Red Spot) and how the rotation of any planet, star etc. opens the space-time continuum to energy that can flow into this dimension from higher invisible dimensions.

If the gates are open, the veil thins between worlds and individuals can see through to their higher self.

Goes into Russian research (esp. Kozyrev) on Torsion fields (spin fields) and how this information became available after the Iron Curtain fell...and how it is the same as Hyperdimensional Physics. Einstein worked on this and in 1928 he did come up with a Unified Field Theory. And his theory does describe "real reality". BUT, all of this information has been suppressed because the information allows us to release ourselves from this reality...and "there's no limit to what we will be able to do" and insinuates that Obama knows this truth.

The only info. that is missing from the Torsion Field theories is the explanation of the exchange of the energy and where the energy comes from. Hoagland says the energy comes from other dimensions (hyperdimensional).

Discusses reducing inertia (harnessing torsion) and experiments of same by Kozyrev etc. which describe exchanging of energy between dimensions (mass reducing with vibration). And how his experiments varied depending on time of year. Worked with maximum effects during election of Kennedy which is equivalent to the time of the speech Hoagland is giving (Nov. 22, 2008)

Kozyrev describes that the subtleties of the information leaking into our reality is easy to miss because it is very subtle. This is the primal energy transfer. The energy comes in waves similar to a drop in pond. "Energy coming [into our 3D reality] creates torsion waves in the pond of reality called the ether."

Pleidians, through Billy Maier, talked about course and fine matter, and ether is composed of fine matter.

Hyperdimensional Astrology - [yeehaw]
Astrology will have to be acknowledged as one of the fundamental drivers of reality. Astrology works because of torsion fields (not electromagnetic fields) and is predictive in relation to the other bodies that affect Earth.

Shipov describes "we can reduce all physical motion to rotation..." which relates to the energy coming in to our reality.

Earth- motion of rotation especially precession (2nd order, 26,000 years) means those waves will be of immense wave lengths, therefore extraordinarily powerful. Aside about the effect of the Moon on all of this that he won't go into now. So this long period that goes along with the short period (daily rotation of the Earth) produces a third harmonic. The Zodiac (from Greeks and before that Egyptians) is a tell-tale clue to the drivers of evolution that is hyperdimensional modulated from these aforementioned waves. The knowledge of the rotation that makes up the Great Year (26,000 years) has been lost but there are clues in "legacy civilizations".

And then the Indian Vedic System, Kali Yuga, describes increasing and decreasing rates of evolution and consciousness. Another example of this information coming from on high-mountains. Evidence that the Yuga cycles are incorrectly calculated by Vedics because they don't want to think of our world falling into the dark ages.

Vedic text calls the center of the galaxy Vishurabbi (spelling?) or Vishnu's navel. The whole of the galaxy revolves around this point. Vedic text describes that the Sun has a "dark companion" revolves around the Sun in and elliptical orbit. "When this dark star comes between Sun and Vishnurabbi, it inhibits its beneficial influence. At that time, the period on Earth is the Kali Yuga. When Sun distance itself from Dark Star, Vishnurabbi is completely open and we have Sat Yuga on Earth. This dark hole makes a complete circle around the Sun in 24,000 years - and that is very close to the precession 27,000 [wrong] that Western Astrology uses to describe its astrological ages. However, these are two completely different cycles, but they are linked...the link is responsible for making Yuga cycles longer and shorter." Imsiriagic

Hoagland says that's not quite true, we recently went through the Kali Yuga and things are getting better. "We have turned the corner... we are definitely on the up-swing." "This is not linear, it is logarithmic"

Yuga cycle is a description of the Hyperdimensional cycle. "So all bets are off in terms of what can happen."

Yuga cycles are driven by long-wavelength of forced precession of the Earth due to the Moon. Precessional cycle is speeding up, it's not the Moon, so Hoagland says there must be something else that's speeding it up. The Moon seems to be a Governor of the system and while it drifts away, its affect is lessening. It seems the Moon will leave us. It was placed in orbit by someone very sophisticated who wanted to foster the successful evolution (consciousness life) on Earth. It is the reason for the glass structures on the Moon - [which are holding in the wisdom on the moon?]. Hoagland says "if we can get the Moon out of its cage."

If you think of the Earth immersed in all of these fields around it, that never repeat cycles, our age is unpredictable, there are no constants. But it is all converging now, "you are in for a ride". We are in a hyperdimensional window of opportunity which is why Obama got elected.

size_of_light
17-01-2009, 01:28 PM
Based on Hyperdimensional Physics, Hoagland successfully predicted the historic results of this election almost two years ago!

It wont play for me jesta. Does this mean that Hoagland literally stated two years ago that Obama (who was relatively obscure back then) was going to be the next President?

EDIT: Part 2 of your post answered my question.

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 01:32 PM
part II - (again, brief points)

Sunspot activity is not constant. Solar cycle is based on torsion fields (25 day rotational cycle as well as rotation of all the planets). Last peak of solar activity was 13,000 years ago. Volcanic activity is also increasing. So the combined rotational effects are hitting to a maximum of activity- 2012.

The Earth is slowing down, based on the atomic clock research, so the earth is taking longer to rotate...days are longer. Hints at conspiracy in keeping this information from the public.

AND, the gravitational constant is actually variable as well as the kg. standard of mass is changing...going down, getting lighter. Relates this to Pluto being demoted (political reason for this). Pluto rotates an an angle to the elliptical which has a multiplicative affect in torsion fields. That is why it's so powerful in astrological charts. [incidentally Pluto is at the top of DW's chart, see Cayce on astrology if you want to know more]

Backtracks to say that these planetary cycles are somewhat repetitive, not completely new every time (eg: Saturn cycle every 28 years etc.). So that you go through the same life events in these cycles.

Election Nov. 4, 2008, Pluto (248 year cycle) which is very close to the center of the galaxy right now and has been there for a few years. This is a recurrent of the destiny created by the the forefathers of the U.S.A. Back to the hyperdimensional astrological model. "United States was created specifically to be the harbinger of change"

Mayan Calender
-11:11 a.m. Dec. 21, 2012, end date of 13-baktun long count. Powerful group of human beings used the Gregorian and Julian calenders to keep this information from us. John Major Jenkins was the first to say that the Maya were focused on the center of the Galaxy spinning 11 times/second. Quoting Jenkins "In Mayan myth [the Sun relates to First Father]...Overall the dark rift [the center of the galaxy in the milky way] is best understood as the birth canal of the Cosmic Mother, who we may call First Mother, to complement First Father, [Dec. 21, 2012, shows the uniting (or birth of) First Father with First Mother and creating a new world age]"

Obama "looks like" the first black pharaoh of the U.S.A. Egyptian & Mayan mythologies both deify Orion. Sons of Horus are an African Priesthood which help humanity birth into this new age. Asks if Obama could be part of this?

Dec. 21, 2012 is a "window of opportunity".

Obama's birth place is Hawaii and is the first President to be born at 19.5 degrees...the first Hyperdimensional President. And this is part of the plan to release this information before Jan. 20. Also the announcement that Obama was elected was related to the 11:11 time signature which related to 19.5 but Hoagland doesn't have time to show it mathematically.

"This Grand Matrix Experiment modulated by the inflow of energy in to this reality creating HyperD ripples [and] creating the fundamentals of astrology and it has swayed [hundreds of thousands to embrace Obama]."

"We are the unseen heroes of this drama." This increase in consciousness is influencing this clash of polarities. The election was all about black vs. white.

Stock Market
- compares this crash to 1929, except that the recovery will be much faster because time is speeding up in this dimension (wavelength is getting shorter and shorter).

Economic crashes and panics are caused by the "Fear Factor". At these times "the good are getting better and the bad are getting worse," because the thermostat is getting turned up so the underlying character of each person is amplified. Ultimately accentuating those that are fearful and those that are not. AND also forcing politicians to tell the truth. Polarity is fear vs. courage.

Robert Gover "Time and Money", astrology of economy, 2008-2019 "will be the most difficult time in U.S. history". But Hoagland says that he doesn't take into account the speeding up of time. Pluto & Uranus square each other (90 degrees), first form a Grand Cross with the U.S. Mars-Neptune square, second form a Grand Cross with the U.S. Sun-Saturn square..."expect a decade like the 60's combined with the Great Depression of the 30's." (Gover says this)

Gover goes on to describe other alignments and Hoagland is using this as an example of astrology describing these repeating patterns. But that astrologers don't understand the underlying science (HD Physics).

[moderator note that this astrological reference is allowed here because it is a transcription of the video and further posting on this is not on-topic]

In the 60's, the panic was avoided bcs. Pluto was 39 degrees in relation to Galactic Center (2 x 19.5).

Hoover, an Engineer, wanted more information on Cycles so he consulted Dewey "Cycles of the Science of Prediction" from the 30's can correlate activity on Earth to the Sunspot cycle. Relating Production Cycle (in all levels of living cycles) to this Solar Pattern. Relating these cycles to astrology. Dewey's empirical work is impelled by the same HD resonance that is modulating affairs in the entire solar system. Peak sunspot periods is peak solar output (and input to HD astrology). And relates to global-warming.

In 1967, Dewey said, "...any theory of economics, or sociology, or history, or medicine, or climatology that ignores non-chance rhythms is manifestly incomplete...as medicine was before the discovery of germs."

Mayan end-time and HD reality information results may be explained by the Global Consciousness Project http://noosphere.princeton.edu/. 9/11 had an amazing coherence effect that was four hours before the attacks.

ESP research shows an enormous peak and valley of activity. Peak happens 60 degrees before GC (when the Meridien , center part of the sky is in aspect to GC) and valley is when GC is aligned. 60 degrees is a HD angle. Equilateral triangle, tetrahedron etc. HD astrological pattern.

Election and relation to the number 60. This Nov. 4, 2008 pattern starts a trend curve upwards showing that people are tapping into this resonance and keeping the Hope alive. Adorable picture of a white boy giving an Obama flag to a black boy at approx 1:03:11 onward..."symbolic of what [Obama] stands for"...crossing the divide. And ORBS show up in the final picture. And then ORBS in Grant Park. "Extraordinary" - shows the HD presence of Higher Beings.

Obama could be a part of a long-term, multi-generational plan to transition us from the nightmare we are living in. As opposed to JFK, who tried to end the cold war and who was taken out because he was about to to end it.

The moon was once inhabited by extraordinary beings and JFK was prepared to share the information about the Moon with Kruschev and this could have changed the world forty years ago. The most amazing artifact on the moon is the robotic head, human in scale. http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/data/6.jpg

Obama can now release this information about the Moon "with a stroke of the pen".

India & China are now looking at the Moon. Obama released a statement to resurrect the Moon research/missions in the U.S.A.

More reflection on what the ORBS represent, who or what? Talks about his heart-attack and how he extraordinarily can participate in the events of this time period.

This war between courage and fear is shown in the stock market, starting to drop in May and generally sliding. Hoagland says "hope won that round" in the election on Nov. 4.

"Is Barack Obama the emblematic symbol of the impending New World Age?" representing the mythology of the unification of First Father and First Mother.

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 01:35 PM
i highly suggest watching the video. Hoagland , as usual, gets the message across load and clear.


there is some very good news within the talk, and good news is something we all could do with hearing.

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 01:46 PM
Enjoy it while you can.


(just an update from Google Video today -)

"In a few months, we will discontinue support for uploads to Google Video. Don't worry, we're not removing any content hosted on Google Video -- this just means you will no longer be able to upload new content to the service. We've always maintained that Google Video's strength is in the search technology that makes it possible for people to search videos from across the web, regardless of where they may be hosted. And this move will enable us to focus on developing these technologies further to the benefit of searchers worldwide."

http://googlevideo.blogspot.com/2009...gle-video.html

this is a huge shame. I have watched dozens of feature length docos (90 minutes +) on Google Video over the past 2 years. A huge part of my reformed education process. Admittedly, all this content will and is being posted to youtube, although in 10 minute bites. It really does ruin the viewing experience, even when accessed from a playlist.

So, all current content will remain available, but no new material.

pretty disapointed, but I thought as much when they made the youtube acquisition. Surprised they've keep it going this long.

I'm sure we'll find alternatives. But reading the experiences here, Google Video provided a reliable, valuable and welcome service.

mountain
17-01-2009, 01:50 PM
Thanks jesta g!

This is precisely what I have been feeling instinctively about... especially the bit about Obama being placed to transition us out of this nightmare. I feel its highly probable considering that the Illuminati's antics are exposed more than ever now.

Now watch the avalanche of people come and say how my statement above classifies me a 'sheeple' :D

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Thanks jesta g!

This is precisely what I have been feeling instinctively about... especially the bit about Obama being placed to transition us out of this nightmare. I feel its highly probable considering that the Illuminati's antics are exposed more than ever now.

Now watch the avalanche of people come and say how my statement above classifies me a 'sheeple' :D



every one is entitled to their own opinion. Im glad you have the cajones to use it.


I declare this a free opinion space. There is no need to bash anothers views. Have a little more faith in humanity :)



EDIT: before anyne goes off on a rant, I am very welcoming towards any opposing opinions and debate, theres just no need to bash anothers personal opinion. please watch the talk before making any such reply. The subject of this thread is based around the talk I have provided. - thank you.

supertzar
17-01-2009, 02:07 PM
Very interesting.

chris
17-01-2009, 02:16 PM
If they old forum was still here, you could see a lot of us predicting Obama since just after the 2004 election...no big deal...

size_of_light
17-01-2009, 02:22 PM
If they old forum was still here, you could see a lot of us predicting Obama since just after the 2004 election...no big deal...

Serious? What tipped you off?

chris
17-01-2009, 02:59 PM
Serious? What tipped you off?

Yeah goto http://***************/v3/index.php and ask the people there...

We had discussions about who will be the next president and some thought it would be Hilary but there was a division of us who thought Hilary was too obvious and I have to take my hat off to Ciggy, he was the one who pinpointed Obama from the start of 2005...

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 03:22 PM
agreed, it was often obvious that obama would be elected.

However my point rests with what is said in the Hoagland talk, the predicting doesnt really do it for however for me its the science that is great to see. There is good news presented which is always nice to hear.

chris
17-01-2009, 03:35 PM
There is good news presented which is always nice to hear.

Good news or total brainwashing...take your pick

redhead
17-01-2009, 04:05 PM
Thanks for a great post but i have some questions/observations regarding the hope your clinging to

1.Obama's birth place is Hawaii and is the first President to be born at 19.5 degrees...

Is it? I thought there was a great deal of debate about where exactly he was born

2. In Part 2 you say The Earth is slowing down, based on the atomic clock research, so the earth is taking longer to rotate...days are longer. Then you say Stock Market
- compares this crash to 1929, except that the recovery will be much faster because time is speeding up in this dimension.

Make your mind up is it slowing down or speeding up? Or are you just covering all bases?

3. Obama could be a part of a long-term, multi-generational plan to transition us from the nightmare we are living in. As opposed to JFK, who tried to end the cold war and who was taken out because he was about to to end it.

Yes JFK was about to END the nightmare, Obama's gonna take us into a new one imo.

4. Is Barack Obama the emblematic symbol of the impending New World Age?" representing the mythology of the unification of First Father and First Mother.

A New World Order more like, like you say the future is a blank sheet and imo Obama and his puppet masters are trying to write a new hell for us to inhabit not a new golden age.


I'd love to believe what you and Hogland say, but im not convinced, look at his handlers, Breznetski and Kissinger, look at his appointments Clinton, Emanuell etc. Now if he intends to bring these crooks out into the open while in his administration then he's playing a far more dangerous game than JFK ever did.

Also if he gets assasinated for not playing ball then all hell will break loose as the Elite will only have to say a white supremist did it and theres a straight up race war.

We must wait and see i guess, just throwing my 2 pence worth into the ring

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 04:16 PM
Good news or total brainwashing...take your pick



i personally see it as good news, it has done no harm and has done little affect to my opinion. i still remain cautious to anything i read or watch.

nothing suggested "brainwashing".

have you watched it?

jesta_g
17-01-2009, 04:21 PM
Thanks for a great post but i have some questions/observations regarding the hope your clinging to

1.Obama's birth place is Hawaii and is the first President to be born at 19.5 degrees...

Is it? I thought there was a great deal of debate about where exactly he was born

2. In Part 2 you say The Earth is slowing down, based on the atomic clock research, so the earth is taking longer to rotate...days are longer. Then you say Stock Market
- compares this crash to 1929, except that the recovery will be much faster because time is speeding up in this dimension.

Make your mind up is it slowing down or speeding up? Or are you just covering all bases?

3. Obama could be a part of a long-term, multi-generational plan to transition us from the nightmare we are living in. As opposed to JFK, who tried to end the cold war and who was taken out because he was about to to end it.

Yes JFK was about to END the nightmare, Obama's gonna take us into a new one imo.

4. Is Barack Obama the emblematic symbol of the impending New World Age?" representing the mythology of the unification of First Father and First Mother.

A New World Order more like, like you say the future is a blank sheet and imo Obama and his puppet masters are trying to write a new hell for us to inhabit not a new golden age.


I'd love to believe what you and Hogland say, but im not convinced, look at his handlers, Breznetski and Kissinger, look at his appointments Clinton, Emanuell etc. Now if he intends to bring these crooks out into the open while in his administration then he's playing a far more dangerous game than JFK ever did.

Also if he gets assasinated for not playing ball then all hell will break loose as the Elite will only have to say a white supremist did it and theres a straight up race war.

We must wait and see i guess, just throwing my 2 pence worth into the ring


watch the talk. i provided a very very brief summary of what was said within the 3 hours of information.

debate away by all means. as i mentioned in the OP ive yet to come to any final conclusions on Obama. Its just good to hear some "positive" views in the field of research. I enjoy listening to Richard Hoagland and his research and his books are a great read.

chris
17-01-2009, 04:31 PM
i personally see it as good news, it has done no harm and has done little affect to my opinion. i still remain cautious to anything i read or watch.

nothing suggested "brainwashing".

have you watched it?

It is what is called predictive programming...Now these newage douchebags are going to believe obama was meant to be because of hyperdimensional physics...

entrangermercenary
17-01-2009, 04:51 PM
It is what is called predictive programming...Now these newage douchebags are going to believe obama was meant to be because of hyperdimensional physics...

Just a side dish to this, look at the link for sky news, scroll down half way and yes YOU can watch OBAMA the INAUGURATION in HD yes I kid u not HIGH DEFINITION :D :eek: WOW !! FFS

http://news.sky.com/skynews/

stinky catz
17-01-2009, 05:11 PM
Serious? What tipped you off?

Bloodlines.

size_of_light
17-01-2009, 05:16 PM
Bloodlines.

Go on...

jonny78
17-01-2009, 05:34 PM
Positive news is nice, but let's make sure we're not burying our heads up our rears just for the sake of it.

I'll watch the videos, can't right now because I'm at work and the bums won't let me. :(

Still I don't have much hope for the guy. The Elite have a crummy track record and he's got the Chicago-thug-politics background, the handlers, the odious connections, and now we find out he's got the blood in his veins.

It just keeps getting better and better with this guy.

My opinion is we're gonna get more of the same, possibly worse because people adore him unlike Bush who was a buffoon. It'll be a lot easier for Obama to sell an agenda they push down the pipe. Now I could be wrong-anything IS possible. Hell, he may have a change of heart once he realizes the scope of things (ala Kennedy) but I think the chances of that are slim and even if he does, I doubt he'd last long afterwards (ala Kennedy). Even just taking him out via assassination or stripping him of the presidency could be a catalyst to jumpstart civil unrest and collapse in this country. In that regard, he could be set up to "fail".

In the case of Obama, I'm afraid it's a case of too good to be true and he's simply the latest curve ball thrown at us by the Elite.

whatistruth
17-01-2009, 06:08 PM
This is just complete bull, hoagland is off my watch list now, or infact no, no.
Im putting him at the top of it, this is total propaganda.

Are we ignoring all obama's appointments and all the shitty NWO things he SAYS he's going to do?
And this guy is hailing him as our saviour?
Would the nwo let someone they didnt approve be elected?
No, they wouldnt.
And anyway, the media helped him out BIG TIME, they're hailing him as the messiah, and all those brainwashed obamanoids are total idiots, this is just total bullcrap.

hewrote
17-01-2009, 08:55 PM
something about Hoagland CONSISTENTLY rubs me the wrong way. Announcing that Obama was going to be president is akin to saying that honey tastes like honey. THE most singular predictable event in American politics. And now, Richard has a hyper-dimensional connection? well, of COURSE he does!!

"basically, I think that George Bush is a good guy."
-Barry HO

hewrote
17-01-2009, 08:58 PM
This is just complete bull, hoagland is off my watch list now, or infact no, no.
Im putting him at the top of it, this is total propaganda.

Are we ignoring all obama's appointments and all the NWO things he SAYS he's going to do?
And this guy is hailing him as our saviour?
Would the nwo let someone they didnt approve be elected?
No, they wouldnt.
And anyway, the media helped him out BIG TIME, they're hailing him as the messiah, and all those brainwashed obamanoids are total idiots, this is just total bullcrap.


I think that you're closer to the truth than Hoaxland. He's always meandering down hyper-dimensional paths, torsion physics etc. Hyper-dimensionality ain't going to mean squat when you're in a bread line. He diverts from the immediate "clear and present" danger into his typical verbosity.
dis-info agent par excellent'!!!

and of course with Hoagland it's always the "Nazis"...or the Masons.

hewrote
17-01-2009, 09:15 PM
curious if Hoagland mentions the pole star and perhaps 3 wise men attending the party?

hewrote
17-01-2009, 09:49 PM
aww, this is from Hoagland's site:


"Synopsis
Just in time for Christmas, this three-hour, lavishly illustrated 2-DVD set -- produced, directed and presented by Richard C. Hoagland, Founder and Head of the Enterprise Mission -- investigates the "hyperdimensional background" to Obama's extraordinary win."

JUST IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS!! hint! hint!

WOW! the "hyperdimensional background" to Obama's extraordinary win.

EXTRAORDINARY!?!?! WTF is extraordinary, let alone "hyper-dimensional" about overt mind control and media manipulation!?!