Don't trust Masonic run governments

[ban freekmasons]

DONT TRUST MASONIC RUN GOVERNMENTS

Why do we have never ending cycles of boom and bust?
This is what the masons use to consolidate their power base.

Masons wont be losing their jobs.
Masons wont be losing their homes.
Masons wont be losing their business's
Masons wont face impoverishment on the menial benefits provided
after years of graft.

Masonic run banks have been propped up to the tune of billions thanks
to following a masonic agenda by masonic run governments and the political leaders they funded and put into power for their own financial agenda .
We get to vote ONLY for parties run by masonic dupes.

Masons will be picking up the cheap houses and business's that have been bankrupted thanks to the MASONIC mortgage scams by forcing up house prices to artificially ridiculous levels and to get a roof over your head fleeced into paying grossly outrageous mortgages for homes worth
only a fraction of what you have to pay for them .Proven when the interest rates go up and the withdrawal of money and mortgage lending leads to the collapse of house prices and the repossession of the homes the MOB barter, in an ever ending cycle, using the boom and bust principle.

A whole glut of jobs have been created especially for their dim witted goons. Executive positions, that pay huge salaries, and bare no resemblance to the brain capacity of masonic dupes who function as the
slave drivers for the masonic agenda and who head the management positions that dump employees who fail to follow their enslavement system exactly to that master plan.

This is an EVIL network of power . They know exactly what they are doing when New World Order General Gordon Brown talks about helping people to stay in their homes when they are sacked .
He means the exact opposite by giving the illusion of assistance when in fact the millions who lose their jobs will also lose their homes . Some may get re-employed at a later date, but at salaries well below what they had in the past, and after they have likely lost everything they worked their ass off for prior to the crunch, having to start from scratch all over again. Men have, for years, been fleeced and losing their homes in their masonic run family/civil courts with ONLY masonic judges in judgement and presently masked by this latest credit crisis.NEVER A JURY .

While the executive positions will see massive rises in salaries from the SAVINGS made and from the removal of NON masonic business's leaving a near monopoly of masonic companies who will consolidate their customer
base on the back of another cycle of an artificially created credit crunch.

We no longer receive salaries that pay the bills . They have created a system were only by getting into massive debt can you manage to own? a house and car ,or the illusion of owning them until they come to take them back in the masonic based boom and bust cycles that ensure their EVIL powermongering continues.

This is a masonic ruse of the most enormous proportions . We are all in one way or another duped by a small self appointed elite group of warmongering mobsters who, at a stroke, can manipulate the worlds economy
with their banking scams. We are all caught up in a masonic web of deceit that can only be stopped by a complete re-alignment of the worlds resources . All non mason men need to create an alternative network of finance and employment. Also a complete realignment of the worlds land and property that has been STOLEN from the people and into the hands of those who create the artificial mortgage scams that leave us paying them billions in interest while they manipulate ALL the worlds land , property and wealth for their own ends.

The head of this madness is Queen Lizzie, patron of freemasonry, who at the last count owned one sixth of the worlds land mass and who has the largest gun arsenal in the world protecting that wealth while an unarmed
populous can only sit back and watch the monstrous theft of everything they own disappearing into the masonic coffers . The British crown and its legal mafia at the very heart of this ruthless system.
Source www.ljpr.info

[grandsecretary]

DONT TRUST MASONIC RUN GOVERNMENTS

Why do we have never ending cycles of boom and bust?
This is what the masons use to consolidate their power base.

Masons wont be losing their jobs.
Masons wont be losing their homes.
Masons wont be losing their business's
Masons wont face impoverishment on the menial benefits provided
after years of graft.

Masonic run banks have been propped up to the tune of billions thanks
to following a masonic agenda by masonic run governments and the political leaders they funded and put into power for their own financial agenda .
We get to vote ONLY for parties run by masonic dupes.

Masons will be picking up the cheap houses and business's that have been bankrupted thanks to the MASONIC mortgage scams by forcing up house prices to artificially ridiculous levels and to get a roof over your head fleeced into paying grossly outrageous mortgages for homes worth
only a fraction of what you have to pay for them .Proven when the interest rates go up and the withdrawal of money and mortgage lending leads to the collapse of house prices and the repossession of the homes the MOB barter, in an ever ending cycle, using the boom and bust principle.

A whole glut of jobs have been created especially for their dim witted goons. Executive positions, that pay huge salaries, and bare no resemblance to the brain capacity of masonic dupes who function as the
slave drivers for the masonic agenda and who head the management positions that dump employees who fail to follow their enslavement system exactly to that master plan.

This is an EVIL network of power . They know exactly what they are doing when New World Order General Gordon Brown talks about helping people to stay in their homes when they are sacked .
He means the exact opposite by giving the illusion of assistance when in fact the millions who lose their jobs will also lose their homes . Some may get re-employed at a later date, but at salaries well below what they had in the past, and after they have likely lost everything they worked their ass off for prior to the crunch, having to start from scratch all over again. Men have, for years, been fleeced and losing their homes in their masonic run family/civil courts with ONLY masonic judges in judgement and presently masked by this latest credit crisis.NEVER A JURY .

While the executive positions will see massive rises in salaries from the SAVINGS made and from the removal of NON masonic business's leaving a near monopoly of masonic companies who will consolidate their customer
base on the back of another cycle of an artificially created credit crunch.

We no longer receive salaries that pay the bills . They have created a system were only by getting into massive debt can you manage to own? a house and car ,or the illusion of owning them until they come to take them back in the masonic based boom and bust cycles that ensure their EVIL powermongering continues.

This is a masonic ruse of the most enormous proportions . We are all in one way or another duped by a small self appointed elite group of warmongering mobsters who, at a stroke, can manipulate the worlds economy
with their banking scams. We are all caught up in a masonic web of deceit that can only be stopped by a complete re-alignment of the worlds resources . All non mason men need to create an alternative network of finance and employment. Also a complete realignment of the worlds land and property that has been STOLEN from the people and into the hands of those who create the artificial mortgage scams that leave us paying them billions in interest while they manipulate ALL the worlds land , property and wealth for their own ends.

The head of this madness is Queen Lizzie, patron of freemasonry, who at the last count owned one sixth of the worlds land mass and who has the largest gun arsenal in the world protecting that wealth while an unarmed
populous can only sit back and watch the monstrous theft of everything they own disappearing into the masonic coffers . The British crown and its legal mafia at the very heart of this ruthless system.
Source www.ljpr.info


It's all THEIR fault. "Nothing to do with me - honest!" You see, I don't do anything, I just sit back and belly ache.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/cryingman.jpg

Boo hoo hoo! Woe, woe, thrice woe!

[eastbeast]

Well if we can't trust your 'Masonic run Governments' What can we trust?

According to your theory all Governments would be untrustworthy no matter how or who was elected.

Perhaps we should have complete anarchy......The only problem being.....Who will organise it......

[localidiot]

Masons wont be losing their jobs.
Masons wont be losing their homes.
Masons wont be losing their business's
Masons wont face impoverishment on the menial benefits provided
after years of graft.


And don't forget about those wetbacks stealing your jobs. Or those damn joos that steal your money.
Or those damn woman, all they have to do to get a job is flash their tits.
And those damn men, they take over the job feild.
Then those fricken black, they always get a hand out.


That's a bit of the complete and utter horse hockey I've heard in the last ten years.
Meanwhile other folks are going out and getting jobs, balancing their checkbook, and over all continuing with their life.

[grandsecretary]

Masons wont face impoverishment on the menial benefits provided after years of graft.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/cryingman.jpg

It's not fair!

Benefits are ONLY there to tide you over in the short term until you get yourself another job so that you can EARN a living.

[localidiot]

Perhaps we should have complete anarchy......The only problem being.....Who will organise it......


Actually... absolute anarchy is fun. At that point, it pretty much falls back to mite = right.
Of course, so many anarchist wannabee's tend to skip that part...

[grandsecretary]

Actually... absolute anarchy is fun. At that point, it pretty much falls back to mite = right.
Of course, so many anarchist wannabee's tend to skip that part...

This is what Eric E Schmidt - Chairman and CEO Google Inc. believes:

“The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.

And I believe that it is potentially dangerous. The constant drip, drip, drip and denegration of our politicians is, IMHO, a major contributor to our current financial turmoil. Loss of confidence in our political systems leads to a loss of confidence in our economies.

A loss of confidence in the stability and future of our economies means a loss of confidence in the value of money. Money is bits of printed paper, the value of which is guaranteed by governments. We no longer have gold and silver coins with intrinsic value.

The value of "paper" currencies is ALL about confidence in governments to either tax, or borrow. They can only borrow if there is confidence that they can pay it back to lenders at the same value, plus interest.

Lack of confidence in government leads to a hold on lending. Taxes increase, companies liquidate, unemployment rockets, banks collapse, interest rates fall through the floor, currencies devalue, bankruptcy beckons. Sound familiar?

Drip, drip, drip, down, down, down.

[localidiot]

Have to agree with you there. A system doesn't work to well if the people don't have faith in it.
I remember a author stating, though I can't remember the author or the exact quote, that civilization only exists because we believe in it.

For that matter, Terry Pratchett touched on some good points in his novel the Hogfather. An entertaining book with some interesting ideas in it. But, that'd be going off topic.

[grandsecretary]

Have to agree with you there. A system doesn't work to well if the people don't have faith in it.
I remember a author stating, though I can't remember the author or the exact quote, that civilization only exists because we believe in it.

For that matter, Terry Pratchett touched on some good points in his novel the Hogfather. An entertaining book with some interesting ideas in it. But, that'd be going off topic.

It is no concidence that one of the topics discussed at the recent Bilderberg Conference was "Cyber Terrorism". It is a live issue.

[slartibartfast]

For that matter, Terry Pratchett touched on some good points in his novel the Hogfather. An entertaining book with some interesting ideas in it. But, that'd be going off topic.

Pratchett is very rarely off topic you just have to think of the "Elucidated Brethren of the Ebon Night"...

Elucidated_Brethren_of_the_Ebon_Night (http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Elucidated_Brethren_of_the_Ebon_Night)

...and many other classic observations of mankind.

[disconnex]

Benefits are ONLY there to tide you over in the short term until you get yourself another job so that you can EARN a living.

Damn GS, I have to agree with you for once. I myself come from a working class family, we've always provided what's been needed and have received almost everything that's wanted thanks to hard work.

At least in America I can say that a lot of people expect something for nothing, while the ones who just need a boost to get on their feet suffer the most because funds are exhausted by moochers.

[disconnex]

Masons wont be losing their jobs.
Masons wont be losing their homes.
Masons wont be losing their business's
Masons wont face impoverishment on the menial benefits provided
after years of graft.


Though not a fan of masons myself, I'm sure everyday people who happen to be masons will feel the hit of this current economic strife.

[cheshirecat]

All you masons on this site enjoy it while it lasts you have been rumbled.

[grandsecretary]

All you masons on this site enjoy it while it lasts you have been rumbled.

So you say. We have responded to every empty statement and every false allegation, and you don't like it.

It is people like you and your friends who have been rumbled, and you don't like that either. Now you threaten to deploy the doctrine of censorship.

If you succeed then the reputation of this forum, and David Icke himself will be exposed to the ridicule that it will deserve.

[comawhite015]

lol

It's like when you apply for a job there's a 'Mason' box you can tick.

I've got a mate who's a Mason and he works in a coffee shop. He got fired last week.

Silly tit, you are.

[grandsecretary]

lol

It's like when you apply for a job there's a 'Mason' box you can tick.

I've got a mate who's a Mason and he works in a coffee shop. He got fired last week.

Silly tit, you are.

This is quite ridiculous, and frankly childish nonsense.

Post a picture of one single genuine application form of this nature, and I will contact the CEO of the firm on Monday. If it turns out to be true, which I doubt, then I will personally take him and his company to court for discrimination, and I will send the damages to a charity of your choice.

The challenge is there, but I doubt that you will respond because you have made it up. And you can tell your friend to get up on time, get to work on time, do a decent days work, and then he won't get the sack. How many customers did he poison?

[comawhite015]

This is quite ridiculous, and frankly childish nonsense.

Post a picture of one single genuine application form of this nature, and I will contact the CEO of the firm on Monday. If it turns out to be true, which I doubt, then I will personally take him and his company to court for discrimination, and I will send the damages to a charity of your choice.

The challenge is there, but I doubt that you will respond because you have made it up. And you can tell your friend to get up on time, get to work on time, do a decent days work, and then he won't get the sack. How many customers did he poison?

Oh christ, I was making a joke!

Mason box? what?

And yes, I was making a point that he's a Mason, sure, but he's still an idiot and apt to get fired when he fucks up like anyone else.

Chill out :P

Edit: Seriously, you didn't read that properly at all did you? Or perhaps I didn't hit my 'sarcasm italics' button hard enough. And the only person who's allowed to insult my idiot friend is me, ok, so you can shut the fuck up Mr I'm All Mature and Shit.

[eastbeast]

lol

It's like when you apply for a job there's a 'Mason' box you can tick.




It wouldn't be a box, it would be a Square.

Or a Square and Compasses.

[grandsecretary]

Oh christ, I was making a joke!

Mason box? what?

And yes, I was making a point that he's a Mason, sure, but he's still an idiot and apt to get fired when he fucks up like anyone else.

Chill out :P

Edit: Seriously, you didn't read that properly at all did you? Or perhaps I didn't hit my 'sarcasm italics' button hard enough. And the only person who's allowed to insult my idiot friend is me, ok, so you can shut the fuck up Mr I'm All Mature and Shit.

Hokey dokey but these things can be misunderstood. I may come across as being a little bit too straight for you, but my concern, and it is a real concern, is that these threads are not only read by others here, but they appear when you google, and just about anyone can read them.

The record is now straight. Thank you.

[cheshirecat]

i think you may be a little bit cheesed off because you realise that in actual fact the engineered economic crisis will affect you and your mates as well as us goyim.

The hostility you face is understandable, If someobody writes a valid point sometimes you add sarcasm and ruin the threads when honest tax paying citizens like myself are genuinelly concerned about malpractice within secret societies and the effect it has on our local communities.

Im not a weirdo I have a great life and I dont blame the FMs for my life (cos its great!)

Were not having a go at your run of the mill freemasons

Were saying (as reflected in the rest of society) that there are 2 percent that are up to mischief (shame they are thetop 2% too!)

Please look at these links, you can only feel extreme sorrow for the family and friends of this girl

http://news.scotsman.com/breaking-news?articleid=4718123

http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/output/2008/11/24/story12288065t0.shtm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1569458/Man-charged-with-Vicky-Hamiltons-murder.html


Look at his case about the group of Knights Templars that abducted raped battered Vicky Thompson cut her heart out and cut her into little pieces and killed a 15 year old schoolgirl buried her under some flag stones.

The final report said that the Knights Templar bit was a load of codswallop but it loks fishy as the woman Margaret Mulgrew that spilt the beans is now dead too.

You guys just deny anything is going on as opposed to having a spokesman that makes press releases. I reckon you guys should be more accountable transparent and perphaps a bit more professional.

If its not you lot cant you put the feelers out and break this ring of sick people ? Being a part of a secret society gives you certain leverage to investigate over us village idiots???

What do you think my honourable babylonian brethren?

(please give me a genuine answer, cut the crap its 2008 and were in this shit together masons or non masons)

Im offering you an olive branch from a lemurian to an atlantean

as francis bacon once said something is rotten in the state of denmark.......

[grandsecretary]

... as francis bacon once said something is rotten in the state of denmark.......

More tripe about the Knights Templar I am afraid. It's THEM, because its not us will not do.

Francis Bacon, a wonderful Elizabethan Freemason. Take a look at our blogspot: http://www.grandlodge.blogspot.com/ later in the week. I am posting an article about Freemasonry which has been written by Peter Dawkins, Principal of The Francis Bacon Research Trust.

tripe, cheese, and bacon in one post chesh, takes some beating!

[cheshirecat]

More tripe about the Knights Templar I am afraid. It's THEM, because its not us will not do.

What do you mean by that? Do you not believe Knihjts Templar were involved?

tripe, cheese, and bacon in one post chesh, takes some beating!

haha so you have got a sense of humour then!

i was speaking to my local shopping centre manager who is a rotarian he told me two things

1. was invited to join FMs but didnt agree with the secrecy and that the public pay their taxes to be governed in public.

2. said there were loads of FMs on our local council.

Grand Secretary, what is the freemasons big plan ?

[grandsecretary]

haha so you have got a sense of humour then!

i was speaking to my local shopping centre manager who is a rotarian he told me two things

1. was invited to join FMs but didnt agree with the secrecy and that the public pay their taxes to be governed in public.

2. said there were loads of FMs on our local council.

Grand Secretary, what is the freemasons big plan ?

The Moderns must answer for themselves.

On behalf of The Grand Lodge at York, I will try:

To actively contribute to the betterment of the universe by scientifically measuring, in our lodges, how it works; making a real difference, by what we achieve in our lives as a natural consequence; God being our Creator, mentor and guide.

[abolitionist]

Well if we can't trust your 'Masonic run Governments' What can we trust?

According to your theory all Governments would be untrustworthy no matter how or who was elected.

Perhaps we should have complete anarchy......The only problem being.....Who will organise it......

yes, you can't trust any government

Masons do not improve government - they destroy it through secrecy

checks and balances are what's needed to prevent corruption - not secrecy

[abolitionist]

The Moderns must answer for themselves.

On behalf of The Grand Lodge at York, I will try:

To actively contribute to the betterment of the universe by scientifically measuring, in our lodges, how it works; making a real difference, by what we achieve in our lives as a natural consequence; God being our Creator, mentor and guide.

you aren't doing the measuring in your lodges, just social posturing and brainwashing

show me your measured evidence of god

how are you making the universe better?

1. you can't define good or bad
2. you can't measure good or bad
3. you can't predict good or bad

all you can do is protect human rights through the elimination of elitism, hierarchy, and secrecy

wake up

[lightgiver]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvey_Island;)

[grandsecretary]

show me your measured evidence of god

You.

[grandsecretary]

how are you making the universe better?

1. you can't define good or bad
2. you can't measure good or bad
3. you can't predict good or bad

all you can do is protect human rights through the elimination of elitism, hierarchy, and secrecy

wake up

This is a world record.

1. wrong
2. wrong
3. wrong

and wrong.

Where is that Guiness book of records?

[abolitionist]

This is a world record.

1. wrong
2. wrong
3. wrong

and wrong.

Where is that Guiness book of records?

well if you say it, that makes it true "a priori"?

you can't offer any evidence, can you?

now you're bloating out in frustration

[abolitionist]

You.

me?

and how does me prove existance of god?

[grandsecretary]

well if you say it, that makes it true "a priori"?

you can't offer any evidence, can you?

now you're bloating out in frustration

I am probably the least frustrated person that you are ever likely to meet. Now what evidence do you want, about what? Try to be rational.

[grandsecretary]

me?

and how does me prove existance of god?

Can you prove he does not exist? Of course you can't, that is also a non sequitur.

I believe it, you don't believe it, and I have no intention of trying to convince you on a subject as big as this one, even if I had the inclination so to do, which I don't, especially at half past three in the morning.

[abolitionist]

Can you prove he does not exist? Of course you can't, that is also a non sequitur.

I believe it, you don't believe it, and I have no intention of trying to convince you on a subject as big as this one, even if I had the inclination so to do, which I don't, especially at half past three in the morning.

so you just admitted you can't prove it yet the whole masonic organization is based upon this belief, suppossedly

yes, I can prove that god does not exist, but first you must define god

[abolitionist]

I am probably the least frustrated person that you are ever likely to meet. Now what evidence do you want, about what? Try to be rational.

did you loose track? go back and read the post

ok, i'll restate for you;

1. prove that you can define good and bad
2. prove that you can measure good and bad
3. prove that you can predict good and bad

[grandsecretary]

so you just admitted you can't prove it yet the whole masonic organization is based upon this belief, suppossedly

yes, I can prove that god does not exist, but first you must define god

Please do not put words in my mouth. I can prove all of these things by measuring and guaging by the word of God, with the exception of predicting, which cannot be done. I am not psychic otherwise I would have won the lottery last Saturday.

The Creator of all things, who was, is, and always will be.

Go for it!

[scotia]

Masons or corrupt royals, religions running the government?

If the masons etc did have full control of every Government then I believe the world would be a safer and a lot better place to live... The good out numbers the bad in the 'secret groups' thank God ;)

Many masons and Templars etc have been fighting for freedom and truth for a very long time, others have been supressing it for their own greed, power and control... 2 trees with many branches all over the world, what came first the chicken or the egg??

[boots]

Masons or corrupt royals, religions running the government?


A big yes.

If the masons etc did have full control of every Government then I believe the world would be a safer and a lot better place to live... The good out numbers the bad in the 'secret groups' thank God ;)

It's the bad that are in control. The good ones are along for the ride.

.

[grandsecretary]

A big yes.



It's the bad that are in control. The good ones are along for the ride.

.

The "bad" being governments, all governments, and those "along for the ride", you I presume? Says it all.

[scotia]

It's the bad that are in control. The good ones are along for the ride.

.

I have to disagree, how can you be sure who is good and bad these days, many masks have been worn and sacrifices made for the better of humanity... Too many people are blind to what has been going on, as too many people want doom and gloom sadly...

There is good and bad represented in many governments, systems and groups etc... When true evil is trying to crush and control you, would you continue on the path of peace and love, or become what you hate to crush it once and for all?

Sometimes you have to fight 'fire' with 'fire' untill you have enough people to smash a 'wave' over that destructive fire... Once the public stop looking to blame other people/groups and work together as one then better days can come...

Sometimes people have to be cruel to be kind... And the original destructive nature of corrupt evil governments and religions has to be un-twisted and put right... It's easy to see who is what and part of what side when looking at it from far away, to many people are still looking at it through a tunnel..

The public near enough own the banking system now... Its up to the public to do what they want now, if they wait on false prophets and saviours like they have for too long then things could get like what they all fear, this fear is put their by most of the bullshit online and in print by the same evil. Some books are written in a way to keep people who are not ready from the truth away, much like code books..

How many of the public in the UK still have hate and greed running through their blood? This is the first problem to fix imo, united we stand-devided we fall..

[boots]

The "bad" being governments, all governments, and those "along for the ride", you I presume? Says it all.

NO. the "bad" being the masons of course. If you had read the post:rolleyes: instead of reacting like a fool. The good are the masons who think it is just a fraternity of good fellows.

.

[grandsecretary]

NO. the "bad" being the masons of course. If you had read the post:rolleyes: instead of reacting like a fool. The good are the masons who think it is just a fraternity of good fellows.

Oh I read the posting.

We make sure the world goes around and you are along for the ride. I hope your bicycle tyres are pumped up.

[lightgiver]

I have to disagree, how can you be sure who is good and bad these days, many masks have been worn and sacrifices made for the better of humanity... Too many people are blind to what has been going on, as too many people want doom and gloom sadly...

There is good and bad represented in many governments, systems and groups etc... When true evil is trying to crush and control you, would you continue on the path of peace and love, or become what you hate to crush it once and for all?

Sometimes you have to fight 'fire' with 'fire' untill you have enough people to smash a 'wave' over that destructive fire... Once the public stop looking to blame other people/groups and work together as one then better days can come...

Sometimes people have to be cruel to be kind... And the original destructive nature of corrupt evil governments and religions has to be un-twisted and put right... It's easy to see who is what and part of what side when looking at it from far away, to many people are still looking at it through a tunnel..

The public near enough own the banking system now... Its up to the public to do what they want now, if they wait on false prophets and saviours like they have for too long then things could get like what they all fear, this fear is put their by most of the bullshit online and in print by the same evil. Some books are written in a way to keep people who are not ready from the truth away, much like code books..

How many of the public in the UK still have hate and greed running through their blood? This is the first problem to fix imo, united we stand-devided we fall..

Why waste all that energy fighting fire with fire,water works a lot easier;)

Throw a bucket of water on a fire,instant put out,the bigger the fire the more water we throw on it,and there is more water on this planet than land.

The water of truth.;)

now throw gasoline on fire and the fire just gets bigger,and burns deeper and harder,and the more fire you add the worse the fire becomes.

BTW would you put your hand in the fire because someone says so.?

[boots]

Oh I read the posting.

We make sure the world goes around and you are along for the ride. I hope your bicycle tyres are pumped up.

You must be going senile?

Here I'll put it all out for you.

Masons or corrupt royals, religions running the government?

A big yes.

If the masons etc did have full control of every Government then I believe the world would be a safer and a lot better place to live... The good out numbers the bad in the 'secret groups' thank God ;)

It's the bad that are in control. The good ones are along for the ride.

So from your pompous answer, you admit that Masons are in the government and make sure the world goes around. LOL. Well if this is the case, on your own admission. Your mob are fucking it up big time and have been doing so for a 1000 years or more. You might think blandsecretary that you are in control but you are not and do not have a understanding of commerce law. I'll let you on a little secret. You are a slave and a useful idiot. Quote: kissinger

Congratulations you are now a verified sucker of the NWO and are therefore expendable.

.

[scotia]

Lightgiver - If you know what you were talking about and knew about history then maybe I would listen to your chatter on water... NOW is the time for the water to rise and crash over mountains.... If only more people knew how to draw their OWN swords... 'Water' is the 'people' and the truth is what?

'Fire' like many words in 'English' have many meanings Lightgiver, as a person of light you should know this ;) Fire could be gun-sword-fists-bombs-lies and many more ?

If I believed putting my hand in a fire to retrieve something that would bring about change I would... That has nothing to do with anyone telling me something... Reading some of your posts tells me you are repeating other peoples/groups 'truth', and not your own...

Boots- Your head is messed up, too much chaos.. Either you have been reading too much or you are here to add to the confusion, stop being scared, you will create your own fears... Help your local area or something while educating them or something of worth.

Tell me who my mob is.. I am me, no part of any lodge or Masonic group or religous cult or government agency...

I dont know Grandsecretary or have read enough of his posts to see If I agree with his view, so far I can tell he his a wise... You noticed I never said Blandsecretary or tried to take the "piss" out of you or anyone to use the old tacticts of diversion etc and making people stay away from posting from fear of being labled by people like you ;)

If you think I am expandable then some fool like you can take the first shot, once the chaos the idiots create/want is gone their will be order... There is a bad NWO and a good NWO, what one do you realy want??

We are ancient and we were one, soon if more people see the light we will be one once again, the whole world... Positive or negative, take it how you want, just dont try and pull the positive into the negative please or you may find out what expandable means... I think 'God' is cleaning up after sorting all the garbage from good;)

Its a funny old world, and you should realise who is actulay fighting for good before some peoples world falls apart...

Peace :)

[boots]

Boots- Your head is messed up, too much chaos.. Either you have been reading too much or you are here to add to the confusion, stop being scared, you will create your own fears... Help your local area or something while educating them or something of worth.

What are you some sort of phyco therapist? :rolleyes:



Was my post in relation to you?
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[quote=scotia;746253]I dont know Grandsecretary or have read enough of his posts to see If I agree with his view, so far I can tell he his a wise... You noticed I never said Blandsecretary or tried to take the "piss" out of you or anyone to use the old tacticts of diversion etc and making people stay away from posting from fear of being labled by people like you;)

Your only new to the forum and have not seen all that is. Funny, I'm getting the feeling that some thing is not quite right here.

If he is in fear then that is his problem, isn't

If you think I am expandable then some fool like you can take the first shot, once the chaos the idiots create/want is gone their will be order... There is a bad NWO and a good NWO, what one do you realy want??

Did I say you were expendable? Are you a mason in government? Do you know what Kissinger said about those that are working for the elite?


We are ancient and we were one, soon if more people see the light we will be one once again, the whole world... Positive or negative, take it how you want, just dont try and pull the positive into the negative please or you may find out what expandable means... I think 'God' is cleaning up after sorting all the garbage from good;)

I dont think "god" will be doing anything. The government is not in control of the banks that is for certain.


Its a funny old world, and you should realise who is actulay fighting for good before some peoples world falls apart...

Peace :)

Who is fighting for the good, Masons?

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[scotia]

Boots

I am no shrink, the meds I would advise are not available on the NHS, for now...

You are bringing me into it by using my 'quote'. I bet many people now dead would like to speak on this site and have their say when others quote and use their words...

I am new to this forum, but some people are actulay good at judging a book by its cover.. Each person sees different, I dont think Grandsecretary has too much fear in him, nothing compared to yours anyway...

Under my quote you spoke of someone being expandable and being a sucker, maybe you were not talking about me.. Sorry if I have it wrong, I might be a sucker, I could be whatever I need to be, to survive...

Are you sure 'God' is not doing anything?

What realy is 'God'?

In some parts of the code book known as the Bible there is a part that mentions the creation on man/women and what and who they were... The public now nearly own all the banks as it is public cash that has been used to 'bail' them out... As the majority of businesses and everyone else were in debt to the banks, I would now say that 'God' has taken full control of the world and not just the banks...

Another way of looking at it is, the slaves now own themself and the world...

What do the public want now, do they want to fight or wake up?

True Illumaniti would be on 'Gods' payroll, evil cant glow ;)

People are fighting for good, not all masons are evil... If they were this planet would have been finished long ago... Many people have had to wear masks and change their ways to fit in and survive and play the game... But not all masons are good...

Who said Scotland was the occult centre of the world/universe? Who was burning 'witches'?

I am not here to fight, the fight for blood is over.. Now the only swords that are getting pulled are the swords of truth... I know you have the answer in your head, most people on this quest do. But many started with an evil end and all their evidence they are gathering is is geared to that conclusion of doom...

If people could find a way of blowing all the shit from their head and looking from the start to the beggining with a clear head or even a good ending... They will see differnet and maybe draw the sword from the stone..

The governments are the minority and the public the majority, if everyone gets on the same 'wave lenght' then how can a corrupt royal/religous/masonic based government go ahead with their plans of doom.. People have the internet for a reason, some say its just technology, some say its part of the 'divine' plan and the work of the "Holy spirt", the 'force/light'...

Life is simple and there is too much confusion put their by the same people to make people need them...

People realy have to start thinking for themself and humanity quick.. Yes, people have been helping, and people have been fighting to keep the old controls and lies in place... Those of a good true heart always win...

Rome and its evil ways could not take on the Irish or the Scottish, if you look into religion more you may find links to "chritainity" and the ways of old in the British isles... Britain is just a part of the bigger picture, many people all over the world and still lost... And it's been a few black sheep that have been breaking away from the system and creating chaos... There are many links to all over the world, it depends what path you walk as to what you will find... Ocne people have reflected and sorted out their own head then they may see into the 'matrix'...

Flower power rocks, would any of the 'Masons' have been a hippy?

Life is full of clues...

[boots]

Why dont you start a thread like this in the general section scotia;)

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[ban freekmasons]

You must be going senile?

Here I'll put it all out for you.

A big yes.

It's the bad that are in control. The good ones are along for the ride.

So from your pompous answer, you admit that Masons are in the government and make sure the world goes around. LOL. Well if this is the case, on your own admission. Your mob are fucking it up big time and have been doing so for a 1000 years or more. You might think blandsecretary that you are in control but you are not and do not have a understanding of commerce law. I'll let you on a little secret. You are a slave and a useful idiot. Quote: kissinger

Congratulations you are now a verified sucker of the NWO and are therefore expendable.

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Brilliant truthful reply. And yes boots, try to ignore certain newbies to the forum, some are regurgitation's of derangement.

[scotia]

Why dont you start a thread like this in the general section scotia;)

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Maybe one day I will Boots, that day will be when people are ready for the truth, that is if my own version of the truth is correct... I am not sure people are ready for the truth on this forum... Each person should find their own truth, if we all walk a differnt path and our heart is full of love and light then we will reach the same destination...

The truth is online and nothing I am sure is a 'secret' anymore, but I am nothing but a simple 'newbie' and do not want to be attacked by the same idiots from the usual religous cults spreading fear and hate and bullshit...

They are easy to spot ;)

[grandsecretary]

You must be going senile?

Here I'll put it all out for you.



A big yes.



It's the bad that are in control. The good ones are along for the ride.

So from your pompous answer, you admit that Masons are in the government and make sure the world goes around. LOL. Well if this is the case, on your own admission. Your mob are fucking it up big time and have been doing so for a 1000 years or more. You might think blandsecretary that you are in control but you are not and do not have a understanding of commerce law. I'll let you on a little secret. You are a slave and a useful idiot. Quote: kissinger

Congratulations you are now a verified sucker of the NWO and are therefore expendable.

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Oh ye, I have no doubt that Masons are in government and I have never said any different, but "The Masons" do not RUN governments.

I do not agree with you about governments over the last 1000 years. IMHO the world would be in a far worse condition if we had not had the governments that we have had here in the West.

And I tend to discount the views of peope who admit that they are "along for the ride". Do something about your condition. Have you ever heard the phjrase, "Nobody likes a moaner?"

[cheshirecat]

Hi Scotia

What do you do for a living?

[scotia]

Hi Cheshirecat :)

Good question, I have walked many a path and tried many things... Now for a living I just live... It's hard sometimes through that evil cash, but I am also a fighter and had some training as a grower and long time thinker + some... This in part came from the council scheme I came from and the schools I learned from...

I grew up with some very dangerous cats, I've watched the path they have went and I've not always been proud to call them my friends... But our roots are the same and they had to do these things I have learned or worse would have been.

Life is also a lesson on this path... I still have my dreams of what I want for a living ;)

[ban freekmasons]

Hi Cheshirecat :)

Good question, I have walked many a path and tried many things... Now for a living I just live... It's hard sometimes through that evil cash, but I am also a fighter and had some training as a grower and long time thinker + some... This in part came from the council scheme I came from and the schools I learned from...

I grew up with some very dangerous cats, I've watched the path they have went and I've not always been proud to call them my friends... But our roots are the same and they had to do these things I have learned or worse would have been.

Life is also a lesson on this path... I still have my dreams of what I want for a living ;)

??????????? do u get paid 4 this ???????????? what do u do 4 a living ???????

[comawhite015]

??????????? do u get paid 4 this ???????????? what do u do 4 a living ???????

????????? ????????????????/// ????????????????????????????????????

[scotia]

??????????? do u get paid 4 this ???????????? what do u do 4 a living ???????

WOW............................... chaos..........................!

I will tell you what I get paid and what I do for a living!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN YOU GROW SOME BALLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Are you a distractor, or an agent of 'Rome' and the like?????????????????

Are you sure you are from Glasgow????As I know people IN Glasgow!!!!!!!They are all CrAzY but sane, well the ones that are in CONTROL are!!!!!!

Do you know who the real 'wegies' actualy are??? It's not sum modern name fae edinburgh or tha like!!!!?????!!!!!!!???????!!!!

Rangers OR Celtic, pope or queen, Gods Green and White Army, or auld 'king' bill on his big white cuddy???

Glasgow is the hardest place in the UK without a DOUBT... But is ALSO one of the MOST violent places on earth per head... I go there and feel safe, its when this auld tribe fight with one another that hell is unleashed... its like 2 Wallaces going head tae head, 2 GIANTS rocking and rolling.

With all the differences in Glasgow they would aww still stick together, as their roots are most part the same... I would guess if the shit was ever tae realy hit the fan, then you wid be fooked... I'd always side with the bigger team in Glasgow, even if they were real evil and bad. As then I'd be in them, so I can destroy them, though I would not be alone ;)

But I know Glasgow better than some, and the biggest team will make maist run... You ever heard in Scotland " You wanna play wi the Devil, well the devil is gonna fook ya"??? or somthink lang they lines?

So what you gonna be doing big man, ya gonna fight fur yer version of truth when aww they nutters up there are running aboot chopping folk up wi their 'swords'? Or will ya be joining em aww tae fight fur FREEEEEEEEDOM!!!

I'll talk tae ya, I dont hate ya or fear ya.. But if ya cannae be assed tae see sense or act like a nob, then i'll be up there, bed knobs and broomsticks ;)

I would never see Scotland fall tae a bunch of idiots, but it husane and never will... Chicken or the Egg???

Where ya hink am fae, Scotland-Ireland-Wales-England, I can talk in the auld way........... Round and round the merry go round ............ How many times will people need tae be kicked round this world tae learn a lesson???? :p

[ban freekmasons]

WOW............................... chaos..........................!

I will tell you what I get paid and what I do for a living!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN YOU GROW SOME BALLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Are you a distractor, or an agent of 'Rome' and the like?????????????????

Are you sure you are from Glasgow????As I know people IN Glasgow!!!!!!!They are all CrAzY but sane, well the ones that are in CONTROL are!!!!!!

Do you know who the real 'wegies' actualy are??? It's not sum modern name fae edinburgh or tha like!!!!?????!!!!!!!???????!!!!

Rangers OR Celtic, pope or queen, Gods Green and White Army, or auld 'king' bill on his big white cuddy???

Glasgow is the hardest place in the UK without a DOUBT... But is ALSO one of the MOST violent places on earth per head... I go there and feel safe, its when this auld tribe fight with one another that hell is unleashed... its like 2 Wallaces going head tae head, 2 GIANTS rocking and rolling.

With all the differences in Glasgow they would aww still stick together, as their roots are most part the same... I would guess if the shit was ever tae realy hit the fan, then you wid be fooked... I'd always side with the bigger team in Glasgow, even if they were real evil and bad. As then I'd be in them, so I can destroy them, though I would not be alone ;)

But I know Glasgow better than some, and the biggest team will make maist run... You ever heard in Scotland " You wanna play wi the Devil, well the devil is gonna fook ya"??? or somthink lang they lines?

So what you gonna be doing big man, ya gonna fight fur yer version of truth when aww they nutters up there are running aboot chopping folk up wi their 'swords'? Or will ya be joining em aww tae fight fur FREEEEEEEEDOM!!!

I'll talk tae ya, I dont hate ya or fear ya.. But if ya cannae be assed tae see sense or act like a nob, then i'll be up there, bed knobs and broomsticks ;)

I would never see Scotland fall tae a bunch of idiots, but it husane and never will... Chicken or the Egg???

Where ya hink am fae, Scotland-Ireland-Wales-England, I can talk in the auld way........... Round and round the merry go round ............ How many times will people need tae be kicked round this world tae learn a lesson???? :p

what a deranged post no sense at all however we have had this type of communication before from masons so thank you for your contribution have a nice day?

[primordialman]

Seems the FMS simply realise the pm Media cliche "Any Publicity is Good Publicity"its the same on all these forums. A scorched earth strategy is called for simply deny them fuel for their fire, best response IGNORE!.:cool:

[scotia]

what a deranged post no sense at all however we have had this type of communication before from masons so thank you for your contribution have a nice day?

You calling me a Mason Stupid??

If you want to see no Sense then open yer eyes and see what crap you are adding to the compost pile you mis-informed eejit...

If yous stupid people cant understand what people write then maybe you should stay away from people and groups who are trying to make a positive change, incase you end up getting hurt....

So many people have many names for us, Masons/Evil/Templars/Illuminati/Devils etc etc, some even call us angels... Maybe you should learn who is doing what, some worlds could be falling apart soon.............................................. ..........

Peace with in you, or you may burn yourself up ;)

[boots]

Hi Cheshirecat :)

Good question, I have walked many a path and tried many things... Now for a living I just live... It's hard sometimes through that evil cash, but I am also a fighter and had some training as a grower and long time thinker + some... This in part came from the council scheme I came from and the schools I learned from...

I grew up with some very dangerous cats, I've watched the path they have went and I've not always been proud to call them my friends... But our roots are the same and they had to do these things I have learned or worse would have been.

Life is also a lesson on this path... I still have my dreams of what I want for a living ;)

Can't you answer a straight question?

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[grandsecretary]

Seems the FMS simply realise the pm Media cliche "Any Publicity is Good Publicity"its the same on all these forums. A scorched earth strategy is called for simply deny them fuel for their fire, best response IGNORE!.:cool:

I just wanted the publicity. G'day all!

[ban freekmasons]

You calling me a Mason Stupid??

If you want to see no Sense then open yer eyes and see what crap you are adding to the compost pile you mis-informed eejit...

If yous stupid people cant understand what people write then maybe you should stay away from people and groups who are trying to make a positive change, incase you end up getting hurt....

So many people have many names for us, Masons/Evil/Templars/Illuminati/Devils etc etc, some even call us angels... Maybe you should learn who is doing what, some worlds could be falling apart soon.............................................. ..........

Peace with in you, or you may burn yourself up ;)

Where does it say stupid mason ? you said that.
anyway reveal yourself and we'll meet up
i would like to give you a real kiss from glasgow
i have much rough experience from a young age

[comawhite015]

Where does it say stupid mason ? you said that.
anyway reveal yourself and we'll meet up
i would like to give you a real kiss from glasgow
i have much rough experience from a young age

Hell, you weren't even talking to me, I'm on the other side of the planet from you, and I'm quaking in my fucking boots.

Somebody shat in your part of the gene pool, obviously. You know that threatening violence over the internet makes you a retard, don't you?

[eternal_spirit]

Brilliant truthful reply. And yes boots, try to ignore certain newbies to the forum, some are regurgitation's of derangement.
Wise words.

[boots]

Oh ye, I have no doubt that Masons are in government and I have never said any different, but "The Masons" do not RUN governments.

I do not agree with you about governments over the last 1000 years. IMHO the world would be in a far worse condition if we had not had the governments that we have had here in the West.

And I tend to discount the views of peope who admit that they are "along for the ride". Do something about your condition. Have you ever heard the phjrase, "Nobody likes a moaner?"

Run it? Sure have a lot of influence. Hey.

A government is necessary of course. One that works for the people not the corporations and VESTED interests.

Nice of you to categorize me blandsecretary.:rolleyes: If you had read the post properly then you would have realized, I meant the good masons who are along for the ride. not knowing the overall agenda.


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[boots]

Hell, you weren't even talking to me, I'm on the other side of the planet from you, and I'm quaking in my fucking boots.

Somebody shat in your part of the gene pool, obviously. You know that threatening violence over the internet makes you a retard, don't you?


Maybe if you read from post 55 to 58 you might get an idea of where this started from, mate.


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[scotia]

Where does it say stupid mason ? you said that.
anyway reveal yourself and we'll meet up
i would like to give you a real kiss from glasgow
i have much rough experience from a young age

Hahahahaha, You shouldn't be trying to shake people with a Glasgow Kiss wee man!!!

I said they were stupid, but did I say they were aww thick, what ya gonna do about that??????????

I ken aw aboot Glaschu, aye, ya should be watching who ya listen tae in this site by the way.. Some of the folk that I ken that CONTROL Glaschu are fae ower the water and call that land the green green land of home... And some a' they folk huv had a right tough life, many time ower a' can tell ya!!!!!!!!!!

Now what sorta kiss you wanna be dishing out fur me if a cum roon yer hooos fur ma dinner???????

If ya wanna gie me a nice wee kiss then fair enough, but if ya wanna TRY and break ma nose then al play wi ya, or dae ya want me tae bring round sum Devils fae Possil or Pollok, maybe even Clydebank or every Devil fae the East end and let them play wi ya, they could do wi some kisses, well some of them.............................

Now, maybe you might want to talk and learn and stop spreading bullshit and trying to scare people.... Some people are easily scared and have to be helped incase they do something to themself... But then those that scare people for control and the rest of the real evil will see what they create... And as what these con artists 'see' is all bullshit, I AM sure when they see it in real life they will ---------------???

How hard is a bully???

Do you know how much trouble was created in Glasgow through Bullys spreading bullshit about having guns and they did this n' that... The place was in chaos, it still is a small bit... But I told you I know who CONTROLS Glasgow now, a few small wars are still be fought... But I know who will CONTROL the whole of the UNDERWORLD in that Beautiful City!!!!!!!!

Take that how you want, loads of people cant see any truth anyway... And always look before you leap... Ya dunno whats on the other side

[grandsecretary]

Run it? Sure have a lot of influence. Hey.

A government is necessary of course. One that works for the people not the corporations and VESTED interests.

Nice of you to categorize me blandsecretary.:rolleyes: If you had read the post properly then you would have realized, I meant the good masons who are along for the ride. not knowing the overall agenda.


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But that is normal, human nature, to want to influence the world that you live in, and to leave a mark before you leave this mortal coil.

What are we here for otherwise? To sit back and moan and blame everyone else for our misfortunes? Of course not.

[boots]

But that is normal, human nature, to want to influence the world that you live in, and to leave a mark before you leave this mortal coil.

What are we here for otherwise? To sit back and moan and blame everyone else for our misfortunes? Of course not.

You've heard of the phrase. A little power corrupts and Absolute power corrupts absolutely?

I can sort out family problems with in a week. There is no difference in sorting out world problems, if these so called leader's and their think tanks worked for a common goal, for the good of the people. But they dont because they only work for corporations and those that have the influence over them ( Freemasons IMO ) and whether you realize it or not, you are a corporate entity and so within the eye's of the law and the world "leaders" you are nothing but a chattel. I am at least doing something about this, are you?

Stop being conditioned by the MSM. That all is right with the world.

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[grandsecretary]

You've heard of the phrase. A little power corrupts and Absolute power corrupts absolutely?

I can sort out family problems with in a week. There is no difference in sorting out world problems, if these so called leader's and their think tanks worked for a common goal, for the good of the people. But they dont because they only work for corporations and those that have the influence over them ( Freemasons IMO ) and whether you realize it or not, you are a corporate entity and so within the eye's of the law and the world "leaders" you are nothing but a chattel. I am at least doing something about this, are you?

Stop being conditioned by the MSM. That all is right with the world.

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boots, I fear that you are an incorrigible cynic, who has obviousy never come into contact with the system of politics or government (probably not even as far as a local polling booth) or the people engaged in it, and who simply cannot bring himself to think good of anybody.

If you don't like politicians, then see if you can do any better by having a go. See how many votes you get.

[grandsecretary]

The laboring man that tills the fertile soil,
And reaps the harvest fruit, hath not indeed
The gain, but pain; and if for all his toil
He gets the straw, the lord will have the seed.

The manchet fine falls not unto his share;
On coarsest cheat his hungry stomach feeds.
The landlord doth possess the finest fare;
He pulls the flowers, he plucks but weeds.

The mason poor that builds the lordly halls,
Dwells not in them; they are for high degree;
His cottage is compact in paper walls,
And not with brick or stone, as others be.

The idle drone that labors not at all,
Sucks up the sweet of honey from the bee;
Who worketh most to their share least doth fall,
With due desert reward will never be.

The swiftest hare unto the mastive slow
Oft-times doth fall, to him as for a prey;
The greyhound thereby doth miss his game we know
For which he made such speedy haste away.

So he that takes the pain to pen the book,
Reaps not the gifts of goodly golden muse;
But those gain that, who on the work shall look,
And from the sour the sweet by skill doth choose;
For he that beats the bush the bird not gets,
But who sits still and holdeth fast the nets.

[boots]

boots, I fear that you are an incorrigible cynic, who has obviousy never come into contact with the system of politics or government (probably not even as far as a local polling booth) or the people engaged in it, and who simply cannot bring himself to think good of anybody.

If you don't like politicians, then see if you can do any better by having a go. See how many votes you get.

Cynic NO realist YES. You have been conned GS into accepting that the wheels of power move slowly.

Again you are wrong in assuming that I have had nothing to do with political people.

Of course you glazed over the fact that the world is run by corporations and masons are in a lot of those positions. Do you understand anything about law at ALL? I think not.

It's about time oyu woke up to the fact that more statutes are being put in place to further erode your liberties and those that hold political power are responsible.


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[scotia]

boots, I fear that you are an incorrigible cynic, who has obviousy never come into contact with the system of politics or government (probably not even as far as a local polling booth) or the people engaged in it, and who simply cannot bring himself to think good of anybody.

If you don't like politicians, then see if you can do any better by having a go. See how many votes you get.

GS, a cun tell ya win thing, if ya think am a daftie and nevr been tae a poing both n aw that then yad get a fright aff the like a' me, a could show you a picture of 3 wee wise men, and talking about glowing :eek:

I dunno wit age ya ur yer lord highness aw the Lodge or any of that, but afetr a wee while a bet these ying yongs would be rocking n rlling mair than sum, i've seen their eyes... And theri is many mair, a wise man once telt me aboot breeding and wit the green done tae sun, but wit wis green back then when aww the corks got popped and crocery and rockery truned tae mush? I've been caled mushy n' a that, and many things....

But i'd never be a secratry fur any Lodge, am no a sexist or any a' that, av just lived a bit wi ooot some tit.. And the Tits running the show are as daft as ever though daft could vbe, its like getting blood fae a fooking rock wi some......

Dae ya know I broke my Dragon, aye, she's no well and looking poorly and so am I, a cannae fly noo because a limts and laws and a' that baws...

Respect is earned and knowledge is passed to those that earn it the hard way, am sooo pooor we aww hud tae sahe the same pair a' knickers in ione hoose...

After all that liberating talk I must now go out to my stables and feed ones horse,, then ruffle a little feathers in the barn hoos... Tally ho my dear chaps, one will be sipping tea when one is free singing of victory for paper work and computers and knowledge and people like yerself GS and aww the true keepers of true facts of our history...

If it wisnae fur aww the text n' that on the internet ad get trapped by sum spider, then isnide my heeed demeons tae play, untill alang came a bruce and then a mooose... All thsi talk just makes it easier fur me tae put up with everything created through fear and lies and not telling the truth about things, even girls, an wumen... Ya dont wanan piss em off, unless yer a toff...

Ohhh, politics and everything is magic wwhen ya think aboot it :)

[grandsecretary]

GS, a cun tell ya win thing, if ya think am a daftie and nevr been tae a poing both n aw that then yad get a fright aff the like a' me, a could show you a picture of 3 wee wise men, and talking about glowing :eek:

I dunno wit age ya ur yer lord highness aw the Lodge or any of that, but afetr a wee while a bet these ying yongs would be rocking n rlling mair than sum, i've seen their eyes... And theri is many mair, a wise man once telt me aboot breeding and wit the green done tae sun, but wit wis green back then when aww the corks got popped and crocery and rockery truned tae mush? I've been caled mushy n' a that, and many things....

But i'd never be a secratry fur any Lodge, am no a sexist or any a' that, av just lived a bit wi ooot some tit.. And the Tits running the show are as daft as ever though daft could vbe, its like getting blood fae a fooking rock wi some......

Dae ya know I broke my Dragon, aye, she's no well and looking poorly and so am I, a cannae fly noo because a limts and laws and a' that baws...

Respect is earned and knowledge is passed to those that earn it the hard way, am sooo pooor we aww hud tae sahe the same pair a' knickers in ione hoose...

After all that liberating talk I must now go out to my stables and feed ones horse,, then ruffle a little feathers in the barn hoos... Tally ho my dear chaps, one will be sipping tea when one is free singing of victory for paper work and computers and knowledge and people like yerself GS and aww the true keepers of true facts of our history...

If it wisnae fur aww the text n' that on the internet ad get trapped by sum spider, then isnide my heeed demeons tae play, untill alang came a bruce and then a mooose... All thsi talk just makes it easier fur me tae put up with everything created through fear and lies and not telling the truth about things, even girls, an wumen... Ya dont wanan piss em off, unless yer a toff...

Ohhh, politics and everything is magic wwhen ya think aboot it :)

No, democratic politics is not magic, and probably far from perfect, but what is your alternative?

King boots, or Emperor scotia the first? That is politics as well.

What about anarchy? Catch as catch can. Survival of the fittest? Would you prefer that?

You know, you are very good at knocking what is, but you never say what it should be. I used to be like you when I was young and irrresponsible. Fortunately I grew up.

[boots]

No, democratic politics is not magic, and probably far from perfect, but what is your alternative?

King boots, or Emperor scotia the first? That is politics as well.

What about anarchy? Catch as catch can. Survival of the fittest? Would you prefer that?

You know, you are very good at knocking what is, but you never say what it should be. I ised to be like you when I was young and irrresponsible. Fortunately I grew up.

You've gone flat GS?

I asked you about statutes, corporations and liberties being eroded?

So what would you do to change the present state of the world?

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[scotia]

No, democratic politics is not magic, and probably far from perfect, but what is your alternative?

King boots, or Emperor scotia the first? That is politics as well.

What about anarchy? Catch as catch can. Survival of the fittest? Would you prefer that?

You know, you are very good at knocking what is, but you never say what it should be. I used to be like you when I was young and irrresponsible. Fortunately I grew up.

LOL, you think I am still a kid Granda???

You realy wanna play with little wee auld me, I wonder wit good people wid listen tae ma version a' history and enjoy it... And wit boring twats wid take yours???

Have you seen GOD???

That is a seroise question your highest sir, and so wis that statmet...

[grandsecretary]

You've gone flat GS?

I asked you about statutes, corporations and liberties being eroded?

So what would you do to change the present state of the world?

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If you believe, as I do, that the human condition is determined by the immense power of Mother nature, plus the decisions of politicians and individuals, then the future state of the world will be changed by the immense power of Mother nature plus the decisions of politicians and individuals.

What we are talking about now, is how we ensure that politicians who make decisions, are the right people, to make the right decisions.

I believe in parliamentary democracy which: elects politicians to represent us and to make decisions on our behalf; which lays decisions open to public scrutiny; and which holds our politicians to account.

We are a long way away from a world where parliamantary democracy is the norm, and I would like to see this system in place, throughout the world.

I would like to see major reforms in The United Nations, working towards this end.

I would also like to see individuals, you and me, taking our responsibilities seriously and not constantly blaming THEM. Why? Because WE are THEM.

[grandsecretary]

LOL, you think I am still a kid Granda???

You realy wanna play with little wee auld me, I wonder wit good people wid listen tae ma version a' history and enjoy it... And wit boring twats wid take yours???

Have you seen GOD???

That is a seroise question your highest sir, and so wis that statmet...

There is no such thing as a VERSION of history. There is history, and there is propoganda. The trick is to be able to spot the difference.

Have I seen God? Not to my knowledge, although I see His hand in all things.

Why are you making it so difficult for people to read your postings? It makes you look bit peely-wally.

[boots]

The trouble is GS is that the politician are working only for the power of corporations.

Ever person who starts to get into politics has to tow the party line, it matters not, what is in their heart. It's what the power of money dictates.

Take Obama for instance, this guy has got in on a platform of hope and change. Lets see how things pan out.

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[scotia]

I am peely wally awright, its must be a' this height I am reading online :)

It takes me long to write what i think in english, I cant say what i want half the time, i need help too...

Edit: And I must say auld chap, that oot of all the versions of history Ive read online the best version seemed true tae me... I love everyone and everrthing, suger and spice and all things nice...

sumtimes I cant spell rite too, i've been more interested in life to tell ya the truth, life is simple and theri too much confusion pput there to keep life hard for folk...

I worked out where the holy land was when I was young, but then that got ripped away from me in school, I am not sure when that got changed but I have watched 2 battles going on for a long time... Those with respect and hearts of GOLD last longest, there is magic in our veins and magic in our eyes... Thats why we are soo good in disguse, magic comes from everywhere, not just a wand...

God is truth, love is truth and love is everything...

I dont realy have to spell it out

[grandsecretary]

The trouble is GS is that the politician are working only for the power of corporations.

Ever person who starts to get into politics has to tow the party line, it matters not, what is in their heart. It's what the power of money dictates.

Take Obama for instance, this guy has got in on a platform of hope and change. Lets see how things pan out.

.

Well this is where we part company boots.

I have known politicians in my time. Some are good, some are bad, but most of them do their best, and at least they try.

The best of them are the rebels, who do not tow the party line, but who draw the party line. Margaret Thatcher, a prime example.

You mention President Obama. Now, he has already proven my belief that an individual can make a difference. He has ordered the closure of Guantanamo Bay, a national disgrace, within 7 days of coming to office.

Let's hope that he continues in the same vein, although one man can only do so much. Don't expect too much, too soon. He has to deal with opposition and vested interest. He has the Senate and the Congress, and so he has a fighting chance to make a real difference.

Is he strong enough? Not if the American people undermine him. It is this confidence thing that is so important in politics. If you start off with the attitude that, "They are all the same, all corrupt, all Masons on the make ..." then he has no chance, and it will be your fault, not his.

[scotia]

I agree, we have all went through enough shite for us to see anymore...

Heros died and sacrifises have been made for eveyone, there is not much respect anymore for what is infront of our eyes, everyones...

A new book is being written I think, the never ending story sounds good... Governments and the people and medicine will now be one, all for one and one for all!!!

We love life, and would fight to the end to save it for everyone no matter it took, even if our own people hate us, but we wur smart, and still will be, the future will be great ;)

[ban freekmasons]

Well this is where we part company boots.

I have known politicians in my time. Some are good, some are bad, but most of them do their best, and at least they try.

The best of them are the rebels, who do not tow the party line, but who draw the party line. Margaret Thatcher, a prime example.

You mention President Obama. Now, he has already proven my belief that an individual can make a difference. He has ordered the closure of Guantanamo Bay, a national disgrace, within 7 days of coming to office.

Let's hope that he continues in the same vein, although one man can only do so much. Don't expect too much, too soon. He has to deal with opposition and vested interest. He has the Senate and the Congress, and so he has a fighting chance to make a real difference.

Is he strong enough? Not if the American people undermine him. It is this confidence thing that is so important in politics. If you start off with the attitude that, "They are all the same, all corrupt, all Masons on the make ..." then he has no chance, and it will be your fault, not his.

had no idea you were this ignorant and naive

[grandsecretary]

had no idea you were this ignorant and naive

I could not possible express how much I value your opinion. :p