Noise Control Measures in Clubs

[redhead]

It has been brought to attention that the government wish to consider it a legal requirement in the new tax year to introduce laws insisting anyone applying or re-applying for an entertainment license must have a noise control device fitted to the venue. This will be the final NAIL for ALL entertainment in the UK as the level at which these devices CUT you off is dreadfully low and damaging

The level is 85db


To give you an idea on how loud this is. Each db is twice as loud as the last.. (so 86 is double 85 etc in laymans terms.)

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB
Subway train at 200' 95dB
Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss 90 - 95dB
Power mower at 3' 107dB
Snowmobile, Motorcycle 100dB
Power saw at 3' 110dB
Sandblasting, Loud Rock Concert 115dB
Pain begins 125dB
Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB
Even short term exposure can cause permanent damage - Loudest recommended exposure WITH hearing protection 140dB
Jet engine at 100', Gun Blast 140dB
Death of hearing tissue 180dB
Loudest sound possible 194dB


So they want to limit sound in clubs to just above a telephone dialing tone, this will be the death of live music in clubs/pubs as we know it, on the flip side tho', there WILL be an increase in illegal raves/parties, and im all for bringing back the vibe from the late 80's early 90's.

[ex sheep]

It has been brought to attention that the government wish to consider it a legal requirement in the new tax year to introduce laws insisting anyone applying or re-applying for an entertainment license must have a noise control device fitted to the venue. This will be the final NAIL for ALL entertainment in the UK as the level at which these devices CUT you off is dreadfully low and damaging

The level is 85db


To give you an idea on how loud this is. Each db is twice as loud as the last.. (so 86 is double 85 etc in laymans terms.)

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB
Subway train at 200' 95dB
Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss 90 - 95dB
Power mower at 3' 107dB
Snowmobile, Motorcycle 100dB
Power saw at 3' 110dB
Sandblasting, Loud Rock Concert 115dB
Pain begins 125dB
Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB
Even short term exposure can cause permanent damage - Loudest recommended exposure WITH hearing protection 140dB
Jet engine at 100', Gun Blast 140dB
Death of hearing tissue 180dB
Loudest sound possible 194dB


So they want to limit sound in clubs to just above a telephone dialing tone, this will be the death of live music in clubs/pubs as we know it, on the flip side tho', there WILL be an increase in illegal raves/parties, and im all for bringing back the vibe from the late 80's early 90's.

can you give a link please
thanks

[alfrmo]

This is crazy, I used to play bass in a band, and we had a residency in a club

with one of these devices fitted (a limiter I think they called it), and we used

to have a really good roady called Bill who used to cover up the sensor with

a plastic beer glass!. Poor sod used to stand there for over two hours!:D

[friendsinthesky]

So they want to limit sound in clubs to just above a telephone dialing tone, this will be the death of live music in clubs/pubs as we know it, on the flip side tho', there WILL be an increase in illegal raves/parties, and im all for bringing back the vibe from the late 80's early 90's.

Not exactly.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41152
You can see it now...

No longer will a nightclub need to be among the industrial section of your town/city.

Soon you will walk into a nightclub, perhaps next door to you and there'll be NO noise. No bang'n'bass on your walls, however , you will see party goer's wearing the lastest headsets (headphones). The music they're hearing is streamed live from the Dj via wi-fi.



Get it in your head...doof doof doof

[size_of_light]

It has been brought to attention that the government wish to consider it a legal requirement in the new tax year to introduce laws insisting anyone applying or re-applying for an entertainment license must have a noise control device fitted to the venue. This will be the final NAIL for ALL entertainment in the UK as the level at which these devices CUT you off is dreadfully low and damaging

The level is 85db


To give you an idea on how loud this is. Each db is twice as loud as the last.. (so 86 is double 85 etc in laymans terms.)

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB
Subway train at 200' 95dB
Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss 90 - 95dB
Power mower at 3' 107dB
Snowmobile, Motorcycle 100dB
Power saw at 3' 110dB
Sandblasting, Loud Rock Concert 115dB
Pain begins 125dB
Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB
Even short term exposure can cause permanent damage - Loudest recommended exposure WITH hearing protection 140dB
Jet engine at 100', Gun Blast 140dB
Death of hearing tissue 180dB
Loudest sound possible 194dB


So they want to limit sound in clubs to just above a telephone dialing tone, this will be the death of live music in clubs/pubs as we know it, on the flip side tho', there WILL be an increase in illegal raves/parties, and im all for bringing back the vibe from the late 80's early 90's.

I think you're underestimating the noise level of 85dB. Place a phone to your ear and listen to the dial tone. It's louder than you imagine when you're not doing it. Same goes for traffic when you're in your car. Music in clubs is too loud and it's designed that way to minimise human interaction, so this is a good idea, although no doubt brought about by the need to minimise liability claims for people claiming hearing damage, rather than through some form of government benevolence.

[redhead]

can you give a link please
thanks

Heres a link to the petition set up to counter this absurd piece of legislation

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoNoiseControl/

[redhead]

no doubt brought about by the need to minimise liability claims for people claiming hearing damage, rather than through some form of government benevolence.

Good point, and i agree some clubs are way off the mark with there sound systems, but if you get a good sound engineer then you can have loud music that does not leave your ears ringing at the end of the night, imo this legislation is all about control and to stop people having a good time.

Take a pub scenario where a band is playing, 85db is just too low, you can clap your hands louder than that.

[size_of_light]

Good point, and i agree some clubs are way off the mark with there sound systems, but if you get a good sound engineer then you can have loud music that does not leave your ears ringing at the end of the night, imo this legislation is all about control and to stop people having a good time.

Take a pub scenario where a band is playing, 85db is just too low, you can clap your hands louder than that.

And a good counter point, when you use the live band analogy. I guess it's difficult to get a real fix on what music would sound like at 85dB until you've measured it and experienced it first hand.