Did you know HE was a Freemason?

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/michaelrichards.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cosmo.jpg

Source (http://www.freemason.org/pdf/spring_2003.pdf)

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/holyblood.jpg

The book that illustrates the bloodline rights so revered by the loomies...

One of the authors, Michael Baigent, is also the Editor of The Freemasonry Today magazine.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/baigent.jpg

Source (http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/)

[graflok]

It's too bad that such a funny show as Seinfeld has such creepy underpinnings.

Speaking of Michael Richards, I perceive his recent racial outburst incident as a
set up media event. Manipulation on racial themes is favorite ploy of the NWO
boys and they've been pushing that button lately. It also happened at about the
same time as Mel Gibson's reported racial rant.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/dukeofkent.jpg


Prince Edward, Duke of Kent - Most Worshipful Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England.

The Duke of Kent carries out royal duties on behalf of his cousin, Queen Elizabeth II.

[tinmenace]

It's too bad that such a funny show as Seinfeld has such creepy underpinnings.

Speaking of Michael Richards, I perceive his recent racial outburst incident as a
set up media event. Manipulation on racial themes is favorite ploy of the NWO
boys and they've been pushing that button lately. It also happened at about the
same time as Mel Gibson's reported racial rant.

I know. I'll be very careful ever saying "Oh I love him/her" so casually again.

[montag]

Heres another for the collection..

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1963/marsellos1ay4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[pollock]

Heres another for the collection..

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1963/marsellos1ay4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What is it with these people and their hats?

I know. I'll be very careful ever saying "Oh I love him/her" so casually again.

Yes, damn it, its come to a point where I feel like if I like the character the person portraying it is prob a crook:mad::mad:
Good thing I dont watch much tv these days, and what I do watch tends to be things like Monty Python and other such absurd pointless things!

Bah
F

[i_am]

It's too bad that such a funny show as Seinfeld has such creepy underpinnings.

Speaking of Michael Richards, I perceive his recent racial outburst incident as a
set up media event. Manipulation on racial themes is favorite ploy of the NWO
boys and they've been pushing that button lately. It also happened at about the
same time as Mel Gibson's reported racial rant.


Maybe they were 'prompted' to speak their truth, kinda like Jim Carey in Liar Liar.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/CharlesRangel.jpg


Charles B. Rangel - Incumbent Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from New York's 15th district.


Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous2.htm)

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/petersellers.jpg

Peter Sellers - (8 September 1925 – 24 July 1980)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/being_there-movie.jpg
Scene from the movie Being There (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2111) starring Peter Sellers and Shirley McClaine.

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous2.htm)

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/tellysavalas.jpg

Telly Savalas - (January 21, 1922 – January 22, 1994)

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous2.htm)

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/lordstanley.jpg

Lord Frederick Arthur Stanley, 16th Earl of Derby - Namesake of the NHL's "holy grail" THE STANLEY CUP.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/stanleycup.jpg

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous2.htm)

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/young.jpg

Brigham Young - (June 1, 1801 – August 29, 1877) was the second prophet and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous2.htm)

Read about Mormon Mitt Romney (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2152) - running for the presidency of the USA

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/romney.jpg

The Mormon Church and Freemasonry
By Terry Chateau

"Mormonism and Freemasonry are so intimately interwoven and interrelated that the two can never be dissociated..."

Source - Freemason.org (http://www.freemason.org/cfo/may_june_2001/mormon.htm)

[graflok]

William "Bud" Abbott (top in picture) of the Abbott & Costello comedy team
was a mason.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Mptv/1328/2000_0027.jpg

[tinmenace]

Admiral Richard E. Byrd (October 25, 1888 – March 11, 1957)

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/byrd.jpg

First man to fly over the North pole and also discovered that the Earth was hollow. He recorded, in his journal, the details of his journey into the interior of the Earth. A controversial subject which has pretty much been buried.

[tinmenace]

Clemens, Samuel L. aka Mark Twain

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/twain.jpg

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Nat King Cole (March 17, 1919 – February 15, 1965)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/NatKingCole.jpg

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Samuel Colt (July 19, 1814 - January 10, 1862)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/samuelcolt.jpg

Firearms inventor and manufacturer. He invented the first revolver.

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Brian Conz - Nascar Driver


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/conz.jpg

"Brian Conz, 32°, is a proud member of Thomas Hughes Lodge No. 574, Livonia, Michigan, the Scottish Rite Valleys of Detroit, Michigan, N.M.J, and Charlotte, North Carolina, S.J., and is a Shriner in Detroit."

"About one-third of the 1.5 million American Freemasons have gone on to become 32°, and about 1% of those receive the 33° in recognition of their service to humanity, their communities, or to Freemasonry."

Source - brianconz.com (http://www.brianconz.com/Driver.html)

He's creepy looking.

[tinmenace]

George W. Bush - Village Idiot

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/bushshit.jpg

Oops! Wait, sorry, wrong thread!

[tinmenace]

King Edward VII

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/edwardvii.jpg



King Edward VIII

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/edwardviii.jpg




King George VI - Father of Queen Elizabeth II

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/georgevi.gif



Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Joseph Guillotin (May 28, 1738 – March 26, 1814)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/guillotin.jpg


"French physician and revolutionary who advocated for a more humane method of death which came to bear his name."

Source (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

Yes, how utterly humane....:rolleyes: NOT!

[tinmenace]

Norvell Hardy aka Oliver Hardy (January 18, 1892 – August 7, 1957)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/hardy.jpg

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Harry Houdini (March 24, 1874 – October 31, 1926)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/houdini.jpg

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

David Laʻamea Kamanakapuʻu Mahinulani Nalaiaehuokalani Lumialani Kalākaua (November 12, 1836 - January 20, 1891)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Kalakaua.JPG

The last ruling monarch of Hawaii

Also, Kings Kamehameha III, IV and V - Hawaiian Monarchs

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Rudyard Kipling (December 30, 1865 – January 18, 1936)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Rudyard_Kipling.jpg

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

Major General Henry Knox (July 25, 1750 – October 25, 1806)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/henryknox.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/fort_knox.jpg
Fort Knox

Source - Famous Masons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)

[tinmenace]

General H. Norman Schwarzkopf

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/schwarzandcolon.jpg
Colin Powell (left) with Schwarzkopf

Source (http://members.verizon.net/~vze244bj/Famous_Masons.htm)

[ho1ogram]

Good stuff tin. Do you or anyone else know why Michael Bagient would expose the bloodlines in the Holy Blood Holy Grail book? Or is it a red herring? (I'm assuming the bloodlines are exposed I haven't read the book).

[tinmenace]

Hey Bud, Glad you've enjoyed the thread thus far.

Well, the book is very very deep and took me several months to finish. I read it immediately after the Da Vinci Code, just to see if the novel had any merit or truth to it. I would say that the bloodline theory in HBHG was presented in a way that told me that the authors BELIEVED that bloodline was something valid and important, and that the DNA that courses through your veins does indeed define you.

So, not really exposing it, but bolstering it instead.

On the upside, the book did have interesting history, and was a worthwhile read. It all comes together in the end.

Knowing that Baigent is the editor of a Freemasonry magazine, and I'm assuming he's a Mason, I'm not surprised at all that HBHG was written. They are ALL about bloodline, as we can see.

[ho1ogram]

Thanks Tin. As you said the book was deep and took several months to finish, it makes me wonder if there isn't more to it than the general population is lead to believe, like hidden messages for the high ranking brethren or something like that. They love their hidden codes. Anyway, I was looking for another freemason and came across this... man you could have a field day with all the symbolism here.

Scottish poet and author Sir Walter Scott was a freemason.
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/scott.html

http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/95aug/95auggifs/scott3.gif

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usbiography/biographies/images/scott-450.jpg
Abbotsford: home of Sir Walter Scott. It has it's own chapel and armoury, this link has more shots of the exterior and some interior ones. http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/melrose/abbotsford/index.html

http://scotlandvacations.com/images/wscott.jpg
Sir Walter Scott Monument in Edinburgh
http://sites.scran.ac.uk/scottmon/

http://sites.scran.ac.uk/scottmon/images/details/detail04.jpg http://sites.scran.ac.uk/scottmon/images/details/detail03.jpg
Two of the sculptures on the monument. Do they look like faces of people who have been 'illuminated'? More faces here: http://sites.scran.ac.uk/scottmon/pages/mon_details/details_grotesque.htm


http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5346/020sirwalterscottmonumeum3.jpg
Monument

Scott's anonymity became more transparent as these novels followed one another, and as early as 1815 he was invited to dine with the Prince Regent, George, who wanted to meet the author of Waverley. In 1819 Scott was responsible for unearthing the Honours of Scotland: the crown, sceptre, and sword of state of Scotland. These had been locked away deep in he bowels of Edinburgh Castle, and forgotten since The Act of Union in 1707. In 1820 he was created a Baronet, becoming Sir Walter Scott. And in 1822 Scott organised the visit by King George IV to Scotland: the first visit of a reigning monarch to Scotland since 1650.
http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usbiography/biographies/sirwalterscott.html

[ho1ogram]

Sir Joseph Banks, first freemason invader to set foot on the soil of Aboriginal Australia.. THIEF!

http://www.lodgesirjosephbanks.com/images/banks.joseph.gif

http://www.lodgesirjosephbanks.com/images/header.jpg
http://www.lodgesirjosephbanks.com/index.html

1770 - the British ship HMS "Endeavour", commanded by James Cook, RN, made the first European exploration of the east coast of Australia. Cook named the land "New South Wales" and took possession in the name of King George III of Great Britain. Joseph Banks, a passenger aboard the ship, is thought to have been the first Freemason to set foot in the continent as at some date prior to 1768 he had become a member of the Old Horn Lodge No. 4. In 1717 this Lodge met at the Rummer and Grapes tavern, being one of the four founding lodges of the Grand Lodge of England (it is now known as Royal Somerset House and Inverness Lodge No. 4 English Constitution). In 1778 Joseph Banks became President of the Royal Society (of London). He was noted for his work on the natural history of the new land and was awarded a knighthood in 1781. Prior to 1770 the majority of European explorations of the Australian coast were around the arid western third of the continent (known as "New Holland") and the southern tip of Tasmania (known as "Van Diemen's Land"). Sir Joseph Banks (1743-1820) advocated the British settlement of the more fertile eastern part of Australia. He became the acknowledged authority on matters relating to New South Wales and had great influence on the study of natural history in both Australia and Britain.
http://www.freemasonrysaust.org.au/historyearly.html

The Voyage of Discovery's main mission was to observe the transit of venus. To the bloodline families, Venus represents the goddess called Isis and Diana (amongst other names). http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2368 and see The Biggest Secret by David Icke.

Australia was symbolically 'founded' (invaded) by a mission travelling under the goddess Isis... this is how they weave the spell over the population, this shit has a subconscious effect that reverberates through history effectively casting a spell of blindness over the population. Building their monuments to these official interpreters of history keeps people focused at a conscious and subconscious level of belief. It is one way people are influenced to not think outside the square (masonic square?!) Bloody masons!

Before reaching Australia The Endeavour...
It went on to Tahiti (where the transit of Venus was observed, the primary purpose of the mission), New Zealand, and finally to the east coast of Australia where Cook mapped the coastline and made landfall at Botany Bay near present-day Sydney and at Cooktown in Queensland...

It was the time in Australia, however, which was to lead to Banks' interest in the British colonization of that continent. He was to be the greatest proponent of settlement in New South Wales, as is hinted by its early colloquial name: Botany Bay.In 1789 Banks, giving evidence before a committee of the House of Commons, had stated that in his opinion the place most eligible for the reception of convicts "was Botany Bay, on the coast of New Holland". His interest did not stop there, for when the settlement was made, and for 20 years afterwards, his fostering care and influence was always being exercised. He was in fact the general adviser to the government on all Australian matters.
http://joseph-banks.zdnet.co.za/zdnet/Joseph_Banks

[ho1ogram]

Captain Mathew Flinders
THIEF

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Flinders01.jpg
http://www.freemasonrysaust.org.au/freemason.html#famous

Captain Matthew Flinders RN (16 March 1774 – 19 July 1814) was one of the most accomplished navigators and cartographers of his age. In a career that spanned just over twenty years, he sailed with Captain William Bligh, circumnavigated Australia and encouraged the use of that name for the continent, survived shipwreck and disaster only to be imprisoned as a spy, identified and corrected the effect of iron components and equipment on board wooden ships upon compass readings, and wrote the seminal work on Australian exploration A Voyage To Terra Australis.

Matthew Flinders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

During the period between December 1801 and 9 June 1803 he proceeded to sail around Australia, charting and surveying the entire coastline as well as islands, bays and headlands. Flinders named many features after members of his crew. Memory Cove was named when eight members of his crew drowned whilst searching for fresh water. He named a beautiful harbour Port Lincoln after his home county. Sir Joseph Banks, the famous botanist, has a group of islands named for him. It was Flinders who suggested that Terra Australis be named Australia.

http://www.spaldingnet.com/flinders.html

[ho1ogram]

Stanley Melbourne Bruce
Australian Prime Minister 1923 - 1929
http://www.pm.gov.au/past_pm/images/bruce.jpg


Memberships: Freemasons; Melbourne Club; League of Nations Union; Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St Andrews.

High Commissioner to Britain (7 October 1933 – 6 October 1945);
President of the League of Nations Council (1936);
Chair of the Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) Council (1946–51);
First Chancellor of Australian National University (1951–61)

Only Australian Prime Minister to become a British Peer

Only PM whose last remains were laid to rest in the national capital
http://primeministers.naa.gov.au/fastfacts.asp?pmSelectName=1&pmSelectDate=1&Submit=Go

He was high commissioner to London 1933-45 and a member of the British War Cabinet from 1942. He was created a viscount in 1947 and lived in London until his death.
http://www.pm.gov.au/past_pm/biographies/bruce.cfm

[tinmenace]

Excellent additions! Thanks H! You rock!

[celtic isis]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/michaelrichards.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cosmo.jpg

Source (http://www.freemason.org/pdf/spring_2003.pdf)






very interesting tinmenace...i would never have guessed that michael richards was a freemason...though he's a lot "quieter, shady" in real life...

Mind you, we must remember that not all freemasons are bad and are on illuminati levels lol. Indeed it means that a lot of these people are searching for the truth too.

My OH is a freemason and you would never think it of him! But like, i find it fascinating and i do read his books and stuff to "keep and eye on things" and keep myself up to date...i do find the intiations and stuff strange but well, i trust him and let him get on with it, he wants to try it and that's fine. He's getting higher very quickly so they obviously see something in him...i know that freemasonry began as a 'good' thing, and was abused and infiltrated by people only interested in power...it's not good ot label all freemasons as bad.

Nothing is ever black or white is it. And i'm not just sticking up for freemason cause someone i love is one, of course, in my heart i know that at the top or in the inner levels, they are not working for good, the only good they're working for if any is their own good.


Sometimes it's said that this person or that person is a freemason and in fact, they're not. Like saddam hussein...where does it say that all these people are masons? just on these lists? i guess it's enough lol

[tinmenace]

Hiya CI,

No, you're right, the vast majority of Masons are probably men that believe they are doing the right thing, but for me, the issue is the secrecy of their "craft", and their inconsistencies with information. For example, they say it's not a religion, but they have Temples (how does that work?), and what exactly is their "craft"? Well, I know some of the answers but I'd like to see them be honest about what they're really involved in.

Also, any organization that excludes membership for women based simply on gender is very uncool, in my opinion. It's the ongoing oppression of the female energy. The male energy is dominant on this planet, and that is because we continue to excuse the practices and mentalities of people like Freemasons.

As quoted in the Brian Conz post on this thread - "About one-third of the 1.5 million American Freemasons have gone on to become 32°, and about 1% of those receive the 33° in recognition of their service to humanity, their communities, or to Freemasonry."(ie: to their "craft")

It's those 15,000 33° Freemasons that are the real bastards, but it's the existence of the other 32 degrees that provide the clever cover for them.

This is NOT a good organization. The "nice" people on the lower levels are under a spell, and they are providing the perfect cover by being nice people.

[celtic isis]

Hiya CI,

No, you're right, the vast majority of Masons are probably men that believe they are doing the right thing, but for me, the issue is the secrecy of their "craft", and their inconsistencies with information. For example, they say it's not a religion, but they have Temples (how does that work?), and what exactly is their "craft"? Well, I know some of the answers but I'd like to see them be honest about what they're really involved in.

Also, any organization that excludes membership for women based simply on gender is very uncool, in my opinion. It's the ongoing oppression of the female energy. The male energy is dominant on this planet, and that is because we continue to excuse the practices and mentalities of people like Freemasons.

As quoted in the Brian Conz post on this thread - "About one-third of the 1.5 million American Freemasons have gone on to become 32°, and about 1% of those receive the 33° in recognition of their service to humanity, their communities, or to Freemasonry."(ie: to their "craft")

It's those 15,000 33° Freemasons that are the real bastards, but it's the existence of the other 32 degrees that provide the clever cover for them.

This is NOT a good organization. The "nice" people on the lower levels are under a spell, and they are providing the perfect cover by being nice people.






yep, i agree with you there tin...

it's a tricky one, but yeah only 1 percent get to the top! That just shows it doesn't it. And you're right about the ones at the bottom levels being the cover for what goes on at the top, i always say this to my OH and he doesn't see it. But he's clever, but still, i keep an eye on things.

Their craft though isn't that secret...you can find out a lot about what they study...just i know that my guy has a password where he can get access to different parts of certain sites...yeah, i think about it alot that i could never go to one of his meetings with him you know, just cause 'm not a member and cause i'm female too, although they have female masons come quite often.

i've met many of the masons at my oh's lodge, (at one of their open" meetings lol) haha it was hard to cover up what i "know" about them lol i'm sure they saw it on my face! :D

i agree though it's not a good organisation and anything involving exclusion of certain people combined wiht secrecy, can't be a good thing.

[celtic isis]

i forgot to mention the religon thing...ok they basically are free to have any religon they want outside of freemasonry but when they come ot the lodge you're basically supposed to leave any of your preconceived ideas and stuff at the door.

I do believe that they do in fact worship the "architect of the universe" some more than others though. My OH doesn't worship anyone lol (only me lol) :D of course!

no seriously, it is a sect though,as you say, the fact that they have temples and lodges shows that. And also the rig out that they wear,all that fancy stuff, i know the apron is to pay hommage to the craft as the old stone masons used ot wear an apron to protect their "family jewels lol" ie their penises lol


they wear white gloves to make them more focused on their work at a meeting, that they are actualy there to work and "sculpt" themselves...

but like, it does make a HUGE difference what lodge you're in and what country...english lodges are known for being strict and nuts bascially lol and american ones too cause they can be also mormons and crazy christians mixed with freemasonry...not good. Too fanatical. English lodges are also known for taking advantage of any power they have in business etc, always promoting fellow members of the brotherhood in employment etc.

[tinmenace]

"Sculpt themselves", eh? :rolleyes:

More like sculpt world events and reality to better suite their agenda.

[celtic isis]

"Sculpt themselves", eh? :rolleyes:

More like sculpt world events and reality to better suite their agenda.



hmmmm...that too lol :D

no, the majority of freemasons are there to scuplt themselves, leanr the esoteric knowledge and symbolism etc...and then sme are there just to feel important, choosen and well, to take advantage of any power it gives them being a mason.

My OH says that they think they have power but they don't. The real power is in the knowledge and thats what he's there for. Those people are too superficial to ever go further i themselves and that's where the real journey is, power etc aside.


But yeah, a the top no doubt it's used to influence world events, political moves etc. Of course it is.

[tinmenace]

Lyndon B. Johnson - 36th President of the USA. Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson city, Texas.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/inaugjohnson.jpg

Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)



Hubert H. Humphrey, Hubert H. - US Vice President under Lyndon Johnson. (Also a Freemason - Source (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm))

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/hh.jpg

So, after the assassination of JFK, theFreemasons made sure that the agenda was put back on track.

Read about The Johnson Space Center (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=4)

[celtic isis]

Lyndon B. Johnson - 36th President of the USA. Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson city, Texas.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/inaugjohnson.jpg

Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)



Hubert H. Humphrey, Hubert H. - US Vice President under Lyndon Johnson. (Also a Freemason - Source (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm))

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/hh.jpg

So, after the assassination of JFK, theFreemasons made sure that the agenda was put back on track.

Read about The Johnson Space Center (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=4)





aw no tin lol not just the freemasons! :D

it's the whole gang together - freemasons, zionists, i can't remember the rest lol but anyway!

[tinmenace]

I know sweetie, it's just that this thread is about Freemasons. ;)

There's a lot more to come...

[celtic isis]

I know sweetie, it's just that this thread is about Freemasons. ;)

There's a lot more to come...

hehe ah jeez, you'll have me convinced in the end! I'll be protesting outside my oh's lodge lol :)

[tinmenace]

Yes, especially if you consider that JFK was fairly neutral on Israel and wasn't Gung-ho about the Zionist agenda. Also, JFK intended to pull out of Vietnam. Well, the loomies quickly took care of that, killed him, blamed it on a Patsy, killed the Patsy....the Patsy's murderer died soon after....nicely taken care of, no loose ends, no witnesses.

Default president and vice president both Freemasons and the Zionist agenda back on track and has been ever since.

Fairly obvious.

[celtic isis]

Yes, especially if you consider that JFK was fairly neutral on Israel and wasn't Gung-ho about the Zionist agenda. Also, JFK intended to pull out of Vietnam. Well, the loomies quickly took care of that, killed him, blamed it on a Patsy, killed the Patsy....the Patsy's murderer died soon after....nicely taken care of, no loose ends, no witnesses.

Default president and vice president both Freemasons and the Zionist agenda back on track and has been ever since.

Fairly obvious.


yep, i know this...just i'd be more looking at the zionists and not the freemasons, i think these people are just all freemasons as well by default lol

[eternal_spirit]

seinfield is complete and utter plop.

[ho1ogram]

G'day Celtic Isis, the way I see freemasonry is like this. It is a ritualised form of socialising, training people to be orderly and comfortable within a hierarchy.

Just as mayors in Local Government are referred to as "Your Worship': the Master of the Lodge is called 'Worshipful Master', meaning "greatly respected': Serving beneath him are senior and junior wardens... http://www.freemasonrysaust.org.au/freemason.html#famous

It's a classic pyramid structure. The lower levels at the bottom have no idea who is steering the ship and what their motives are. The mason's are trained to replicate this behaviour in their lives. It is all about repeating what those above want to hear so one may 'progress'.

It is all about exercising the left hemisphere of the brain at the expense of the right hemisphere. The left hemisphere deals with calculations and form while the right is creative and fluid. The world is currently lead by an imbalance of thinking, dominated by the left hemisphere which deals with restrictions at the expense of creativity.

Ritualised behaviour of any sort places limits on what we really are; limitless; infinite potential experiencing form in this frequency range called life.

It's other purpose imo is to screen the population for those with pyschopathic traits who can be groomed for positions of authority and power in society.
Criminal psychopaths are those who are crude enough in their manipulations to be identified and apprehended by legal and medical institutions. They are known as serial killers, con-artists, burglars, mobsters, mad tyrants, rapists, and delinquents. These comprise a small percentage of psychopaths, and only about 1% of the population.

The rest are successful psychopaths who evade detection by optimally conforming to social ideals without compromising their manipulative nature. They are skilled at faking emotions and passing themselves off as charming, caring, and sociable people. Some use their conformity to appear ordinary, others are more ambitious and become symbols of success by using their charm and intellect to rapidly climb the corporate, political, academic, religious, military, or social ladder. Between 20% and 50% of the population is included in this category.
http://www.montalk.net/

[ho1ogram]

Australia's First Prime Minister 1901 - 1903
Sir Edmund Barton

http://www.gavmag.com/austpm/images/barton.jpg

Barton led a delegation to London in March 1900 to assist the passage of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Bill through the British parliament.

Second Australian (first was Sir Henry Parkes) to be awarded a GCMG - Knight Grand Cross of The Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George. (1902)

One of three Australian PM's to be awarded Japan's Order of the Rising Sun. (1905)

Was a Queen's Counsel and became a High Court Judge after his stint as PM.

http://primeministers.naa.gov.au/fastfacts.asp?pmSelectName=2&pmSelectDate=&Submit2=Go http://www.gavmag.com/austpm/pm_barton.htm

[ho1ogram]

The current Australian Governor General is a Freemason
Major General Michael Jeffery
http://www.uglnsw.freemasonry.org.au/clips/freemason/FreemasonAug03.pdf

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/05/16/jeffrey_1605,0.jpg
In 2004 at the wedding of Tasmania's Mary Donaldson to Denmark's Crown Prince Frederik.

The Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia is the representative in Australia of Australia's head of state, Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia, who lives in the United Kingdom. The functions and roles of the Governor-General include appointing ministers and judges, dissolving Parliament, giving Royal Assent to legislation, issuing writs for elections and bestowing honours. The Governor-General is President of the Executive Council and Commander-in-Chief of the Australian Defence Forces. All these things are done and all these posts are held under the authority of the Australian Constitution and carried out in the name of the Queen. Further, the Governor-General acts as vice-regal representative to the Australian Capital Territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor-General_of_Australia

The Governor General's office is another layer between the public and the Government. The report on the Iraqi oil-for-food scandal featuring the Australian Wheat Board passed through his office before it got to the government. Masons at every turn all leading back to the Queen of England.

Fancy titles and symbols to feed the reptillian part of his brain:
Military Cross
Australian National Medal (1977)
Order of Australia: Companion AC (1996)
Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (CVO)
Honorary Grand Companion of the Order of Logohu (GCL) (2005)
Patron of Engineers Australia (HonFIEAust)

The flag of the Governor General of Australia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Flag_of_the_Governor-General_of_Australia.svg/350px-Flag_of_the_Governor-General_of_Australia.svg.png

[ho1ogram]

Upside down pentagram facing the stage.
http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/reportImages/P1010015brightondec04cw_600_x_449.jpg
More ceremonial photos: http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/brighton_district_lodge_no__37_dec__04.htm

[tinmenace]

Excellent posts, H.

Yeah, I don't want to hear it from anybody that these people don't have influence in the world, and considering the state it's in, I'd say it's a direct contraction to their "peaceful" pledge.

In other words, don't trust a dang thing they say because they are liars!

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wendys.jpg

Dave Thomas - Founder of Wendy's hamburger chain. Sol D. Bayless Lodge No. 359, Fort Wayne IN. 33 deg. AASR. Grand Cross. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/davethomas.jpg

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wb.jpg

Jack L. Warner - American film producer and one of the Warner Brothers. Mount Olive Lodge No. 506, Los Angeles, CA. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/warnerbros.jpg
L-R Harry Warner (1881-1958), Jack Warner (1892-1978), Sam Warner (1887-1927) and Albert Warner (1883-1967).

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/shitsherlcok.jpg

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - English writer, works include Sherlock Holmes. Phoenix Lodge No. 257 UGLE in Southsea - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/doyle.jpg

My personal favorite gem from Doyle:

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

[tinmenace]

John Elway - Denver Bronco retired quarterback (#7) and NFL Hall of Fame inductee. South Denver Lodge #93. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/johnelway.jpg

He became a member of the Delta Tau Delta Fraternity at college.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/DeltaTauDeltaCrest.jpg

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Ford_Corporate_Logo.jpg

Henry Ford - American automobile manufacturer. Palestine Lodge No. 357, Detroit MI. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/henryforc.jpg

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/gatlinggun.jpg
Gatling gun with unknown person

Richard J. Gatling - American inventor of the repeating gun. Center Lodge No. 23, Indianapolis. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/gatling.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/gatlinggrave.JPG
Gatling's grave in In-DIANA - Thread Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=20374)

[tinmenace]

[B]
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/05/16/jeffrey_1605,0.jpg
In 2004 at the wedding of Tasmania's Mary Donaldson to Denmark's Crown Prince Frederik.




This is very interesting. Mary Donaldson's father is of Scottish descent, but there is not much about him online. Mary takes the spotlight, you see. It would be interesting to know their bloodline.

[tinmenace]

George Frederick Samuel Robinson Earl. Governor General of India 1880-1884. Grand Master UGLE 1870-1874. Most famous today for Earl Grey Tea. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Earl-Grey.jpg

My favorite tea :o

[tinmenace]

King Hussein of Jordan - (November 14, 1935 – February 7, 1999) -Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/hussein.jpg
Seen here with Queen Noor (born Lisa Halaby whose father was Najeeb Halaby)

[tinmenace]

Isma'il Pasha (December 31, 1830–March 2, 1895) - Viceroy of Egypt. Presented an obelisk to USA to be erected in NY City. Past Grand Master of the GL of Egypt. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ismailpasha.jpg

Not just any obelisk. It was one of the infamous Cleopatra's Needles. The other two are in Paris and London. - Obelisk Thread, Page 4 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1971&page=4)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/CleopatrasNeedlenyc.jpg

[tinmenace]

Reverend Jesse Jackson - Harmony Lodge No. 88, PHA, Chicago, Illinois - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jesseandbush.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jesseandjeb.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jesseandkerry.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jesseandmichael.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jesseandrichards.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jesseandbill.jpg

Get the picture?

[ho1ogram]

This is very interesting. Mary Donaldson's father is of Scottish descent, but there is not much about him online. Mary takes the spotlight, you see. It would be interesting to know their bloodline.
G'day tin, I haven't read anything about either of the royal's families. I'll put them on my 'things to check out list'. She is Australia's media version of Princess Diana. (well, her or Kylie Minogue)
Who would constrain themselves to royal life?... Talk about placing restrictions on one's self expression and freedom... she's probably had instructions on the correct way to wipe one's arse and has an advisor on hand to make sure she exercises correct bum wiping protocol. Poor girl, I wonder if she knew what she was geting herself into? Ah, the bloodline families love of the matrix and it's confines run's deep... or should that be?.. their fear of realising and expressing themselves as aspects of infinite love run's deep.

Get the picture?
Yep, brotherhood circles within circles... playing their opposame games. oh the web we weave when we first begin to deceive. :D

[graflok]

Get the picture?



Good one, tin! I hadn't put together the Jesse Jackson/Michael Richards link
before.

Man, there is just no end to the deceit that these creeps are capable of!

[tinmenace]

G'day tin, I haven't read anything about either of the royal's families. I'll put them on my 'things to check out list'. She is Australia's media version of Princess Diana. (well, her or Kylie Minogue)
Who would constrain themselves to royal life?... Talk about placing restrictions on one's self expression and freedom... she's probably had instructions on the correct way to wipe one's arse and has an advisor on hand to make sure she exercises correct bum wiping protocol. Poor girl, I wonder if she knew what she was geting herself into? Ah, the bloodline families love of the matrix and it's confines run's deep... or should that be?.. their fear of realising and expressing themselves as aspects of infinite love run's deep.


Yep, brotherhood circles within circles... playing their opposame games. oh the web we weave when we first begin to deceive. :D


Hiya H,

I look forward to hearing what you come up with, if anything at all. It seems like a sanctioned marriage and it's interesting that he didn't marry one of the Swedish princesses, for example. Maybe the bloodline is too close to risk it or something, but I don't think that Mary is just a pleb. Nah, there's more to it, and I'm really curious because her father is Scottish, so it would be very interesting to see which clan he belongs to, etc.

Hugs
Tin :)

[tinmenace]

Good one, tin! I hadn't put together the Jesse Jackson/Michael Richards link
before.

Man, there is just no end to the deceit that these creeps are capable of!


Thanks Graf!

Yes, it's so obvious once you know the truth, right?

Hugs
Tin :)

[father ted]

lou armstrong (trumpet, singer)
niel armstrong, buzz aldrin, andy thomas and all if not most astronauts,
someone mentioned charlie chaplin,
donald bradman,

rev jesse had kramer on his radio show to appologise, what a load of shit. How can anyone who's black be a freemason given that it's so obvious that it ties in and practically is kkk? It's the same bloody thing!

[tinmenace]

Precisely!

Jesse is a puppet. The loomies have assets everywhere to appeal and cater to all sides. They don't miss a trick.

[father ted]

Henry Ford - American automobile manufacturer. Palestine Lodge No. 357, Detroit MI. - Source (http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/henryforc.jpg[/CENTER][/FONT][/SIZE]




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Lizard!

[tinmenace]

Yeah, he reminds me a little of this guy also:


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/carlucci.jpg

Frank Carlucci – a big loomie-server and former chairman of the Carlyle group whose investors included Osama bin Laden’s relatives. Both George H.W. Bush and his pathetic son, George W. Bush served Carlyle as board members or advisors. Family friends, see?

A resident of VIRGIN-ia, the State of Illusion (Thread) (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3234)

[limelady]

These photos of Bono are posted on the Chris exposes Bono thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=60417#post60417)

Whatcha think?

http://www.jaunted.com/files/admin/bushandbono.jpg
http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/gettingagrip.jpg
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/thefed/v2/archives/17/17.8/images/bono.jpg
http://www.texemarrs.com/images/second_veil.jpg

[tinmenace]

It wouldn't surprise me.

What I do know for sure is that he's not to be trusted. He has such a cold look in his eyes.

[celtic isis]

Upside down pentagram facing the stage.
http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/reportImages/P1010015brightondec04cw_600_x_449.jpg
More ceremonial photos: http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/brighton_district_lodge_no__37_dec__04.htm

just want to point out that pentagrams in freemasonry are positive, this one has been placed from the doorway as you walk into the room so most likely it is positive...i eamn, any pentagram can be upside down depending on way way you look at it lol. Looking down on that one in the pic it would just be a normal 'star'/pentagram.

i know i read all my OH's books on freemasonry and haven't come across one inverted pentagram yet. And these aren't like mainstream books, they're old esoteric ones and ones only given to members. :confused:

[tinmenace]

just want to point out that pentagrams in freemasonry are positive, this one has been placed from the doorway as you walk into the room so most likely it is positive...i eamn, any pentagram can be upside down depending on way way you look at it lol. Looking down on that one in the pic it would just be a normal 'star'/pentagram.

i know i read all my OH's books on freemasonry and haven't come across one inverted pentagram yet. And these aren't like mainstream books, they're old esoteric ones and ones only given to members. :confused:

Oh, ok, so you must be very enlightened then. Perhaps you can tell me what Albert Pike meant when he said :

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."

And....

"Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion...Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it... The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason… every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself."

And...

"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god... Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light...Doubt it not!"

Morals and Dogma (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html)

[celtic isis]

Oh, ok, so you must be very enlightened then. Perhaps you can tell me what Albert Pike meant when he said :



And....



And...



Morals and Dogma (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html)




lol i never said i was enlightened :o

i know about albert pike, he was a KKK bastard lol

but like freemasons are against albert pike and what he stood for lol

[tinmenace]

lol i never said i was enlightened :o

You implied it ;)

but like freemasons are against albert pike and what he stood for lol

You're being lied to.






It would be impossible to overestimate the importance of Grand Commander Albert Pike's more than 30 years of work for Scottish Rite. Of primary importance, he edited our Rituals of the Degrees and compiled Morals and Dogma. Indeed, his work laid a solid foundation for increased interest in all things Masonic and particularly in Scottish Rite.

Freemason.org (http://www.freemason.org/cfo/mar_apr_2002/pike.htm)




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[edit]

The Daily P.O.P. (http://dailypop.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/star-trek-reduce-reuse-recycle/)

[celtic isis]

.

i didn't imply it! :confused::rolleyes:

in any case i didn't mean it like that, i just mean i have trawled through freemasonic books and i have never come across an inverted pentagram ever.

The pentagram 'star' is hugely important in freemasonry and i've explained why before on another thread...i'll look for it lol

and excuse me, i'm not being lied to, i'm not an idiot lol

look, freemasonry, everyone should know what they study, it probably does have satanic lucifer worshipping connotations at the top levels, ok, all the elite who are freemasons are bastards lol

just not freemasonry itself, it was always a good thing, it was just a craft. Then it was infiltrated and became something more by hungry for power people...in any case, it's bloody british/american branches of freemasonry which would be the worst, albert pike is only followed in the states, here there is nothing to do with albert pike in anything. lol

[mcmenek1]

Upside down pentagram facing the stage.
http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/reportImages/P1010015brightondec04cw_600_x_449.jpg
More ceremonial photos: http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/brighton_district_lodge_no__37_dec__04.htm
Hi,

The black and white squares with the pentagram in the middle is used by the freemasons to access energies and entities in other dimensions during their rituals.........the black and white squares represent balance and harmony.......that’s the state the energies in the 3rd dimension need to be in before other dimensions can be accessed........

the pentagram is used to create a gateway to other dimensions the geometry of a pentagram allows this to happen as it holds the Golden Ratio.........this is where the term ‘Stargate’ comes from.....the vibrations to access these other dimensions are created during their rituals....

Love
&
Peace

[celtic isis]

Hi,

The black and white squares with the pentagram in the middle is used by the freemasons to access energies and entities in other dimensions during their rituals.........the black and white squares represent balance and harmony.......that’s the state the energies in the 3rd dimension need to be in before other dimensions can be accessed........

the pentagram is used to create a gateway to other dimensions the geometry of a pentagram allows this to happen as it holds the Golden Ratio.........this is where the term ‘Stargate’ comes from.....the vibrations to access these other dimensions are created during their rituals....

Love
&
Peace


thank you mcmenek1! :)

Black and white squares are reflective of yin and yang...yep star holds golden ratio, 5 points, mystical number 5...

I can't find the damn post lol where i already typed this lol but anyway...

the star is important in freemasonry cause it is pure light, and pure light you can look at and follow...its guiding light...unlike the sun which is burning light too blinding to look at and the moon which is just reflective light from the sun...It's all about geomertry, the five points of man also ake up the star (head, both arms and both legs apart)...but these are all positive symbols, i never see them in their negative aspect in anything pertaining to freemasonry yet...but i'll look tonight and see if i missed one goathead somewhere lol. But even the goathead is really a faunus and that's not bad either! lol

lol i'm too hungry now i'll have to come back tomorrow lol and type more then!

hehe tinmenace lucky for you :)

[ho1ogram]

G'day Celtic Isis, I think your attachment to your OH is clouding your observations or you don't know much about Illuminati use of symbols. Anything they say is positive is actually negative. If they say black it means white. They call the eternal flame positive when it is a dedication to the Goddess Isis/Diana/Ishtar.

The pentagram on the floor is upside down when viewed from the stage (where the grand poobah conducts the meeting). It is also placed on a sun symbol, another representation of the Goddess Venus/Ishtar, etc they are all the same goddess, worshipped by world leaders and the hidden hand for millennia. Have you actually read any of David Icke's work? The Biggest Secret covers this in detail.

Even if you think symbols have no effect or have a positive effect on those who believe the propaganda... what about this? Does this look familiar to a military ceremony? Or a religious ceremony?
http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/reportImages/P1010012brightondec04cw_449_x_600.jpg

Have you seen this thread about the dollar bill and freemasonry? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5041 I know you have seen the pentagrams and stars thread... is the pentagram on the tank there for positive reasons too?

Does your OH keep lodge secrets from you? If he does it is because he follows a grand poobah who is training him to be conspiratorial. I too know lot's of low level mason's and they all tell me it's innocent fun and games, blah, blah... and they believe it also. You said they sculpt themselves and they do, but it is based on someone else's blueprint. From school to university/college to masonic lodges (or other secret societies); handled and spoon fed from the cradle to the grave; trained to keep secrets, do a master's bidding and operate as an obedient cog in someone else's machine.

Some people say it's not a secret society, look at all the available info, open house at the lodges, etc. Well you can view a bank and talk to the tellers but do they know what goes on at board level? I can view parliament house and talk to my local rep but do you think he is going to tell me the what the government's real plans are? Look at the world leaders in this thread who are masons. Coincidence?

I think your kidding yourself Celtic Isis.

Your OH is being mislead. If you consider him to be half of yourself does that mean you have given up half of your mind? It's not uncommon in realtionships.

I haven't read Behold a Pale Horse or listened to these recordings (mp3's at links below) but I know your a William Cooper fan. I'd be interested to hear what he says about masonry:
The Mystery Babylon Series is a series of radio broadcast done by William Cooper on the occult history of the new world order. Starting with The Dawn of Man William covers the occult message to the adepts hidden in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey" where the birth of the "new man" is announced. From there he takes you through the Egyptian mystery religion of Isis and Osiris and on to the beginnings of the secret society networks. From the Assassins to the Freemasons and on down to the Nazis, William Cooper shines the light of truth into the dark corners of the followers of the mystery Babylon religion and those who seek to enslave mankind in a new world order of the ages.
http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/audios/cooper_mystery_babylon.htm

http://www.archive.org/details/WilliamCooperMysteryBabylonSeries19

Secret societies/Babylon mystery schools are used to screen and groom people for positions as tools in the elite's agenda. It is a compartmentalised system, the cogs may think they are doing one thing but only those pulling the levers can see the whole picture. It's a pyramid/compartmentalised structure.
William Cooper credits his selection for this Nazi-infested organization to his membership as a young adult in the DeMolay Society, a branch of Freemasonry.
"The Knights Templar exist today as a higher degree of Freemasonry within the Templar Order. In fact, the Knights Templar is a branch of the Order of the Quest. The DeMolay Society is a branch of the Freemasons that consecrates the memory of the persecution of the Knights Templar and in particular, their leader Jacques deMolay. I know, because I was a member of the DeMolay Society as a young adult. I loved the mystery and ritual. I became separated from the Society when my family moved to a location out of reach of any lodge. I believe to this day that my association with the DeMolay Society may have been the reason for my selection for Naval Security and Intelligence." - 51:75
http://watch.pair.com/william-cooper.html

Georgie boy...
http://www.garone.net/tony/random_files/curiousgeorge4.jpg
First president of the U.S. a mason... hmmmm... a land founded (invaded) under Columbus/Columbia/Ishtar/Isis/Diana... but it's all just a coincidence I'm sure.. :rolleyes:

http://www.garone.net/tony/random_files/wahington4.jpg
This is a print of George Washington laying the "cornerstone" of the United States Capitol, September 18, 1793. There is important Christian/Egyptian dogma here, as Christ maintains that he is the cornerstone of Christianity, and gnostic Christian ethos maintains that this is a metaphor for the cornerstone of the Great Pyramid, a monument they believe was dedicated to the Christian god in the middle of Egypt. This painting was commissioned by the Supreme Council, 33 degrees (an important Masonic number as you will find out) Southern Jurisdiction, USA.
http://www.garone.net/tony/random.html
And looky, the star of Venus/pentagram on every corner. They tell your OH it's positive and it can be, but it never is when the Illuminati use it. We're also told that war is the path to peace and that giving up your civil liberties will free you.... lies and smoke and mirrors.

[ho1ogram]

Hi,

The black and white squares with the pentagram in the middle is used by the freemasons to access energies and entities in other dimensions during their rituals.........the black and white squares represent balance and harmony.......that’s the state the energies in the 3rd dimension need to be in before other dimensions can be accessed........

the pentagram is used to create a gateway to other dimensions the geometry of a pentagram allows this to happen as it holds the Golden Ratio.........this is where the term ‘Stargate’ comes from.....the vibrations to access these other dimensions are created during their rituals....

Love
&
Peace

Good stuff mcmenek1. That is exactly the stuff that they aren't going to tell the plebs at the bottom. The plebs are simply energy sources for the entities and higher initiates to feed off... this whole illusion we call the matrix survives on this sort of stuff. Mason's have their conscious minds distracted while their subconscious minds are filled with shit.

Celtic Isis, notice those checquered squares are on police and emergency services uniforms... wheels within wheels, that's how the system operates, and it all leads back to centralised overseers.

Cheers, h.

[tinmenace]

i didn't imply it! :confused::rolleyes:

in any case i didn't mean it like that, i just mean i have trawled through freemasonic books and i have never come across an inverted pentagram ever.

The pentagram 'star' is hugely important in freemasonry and i've explained why before on another thread...i'll look for it lol

and excuse me, i'm not being lied to, i'm not an idiot lol

look, freemasonry, everyone should know what they study, it probably does have satanic lucifer worshipping connotations at the top levels, ok, all the elite who are freemasons are bastards lol

just not freemasonry itself, it was always a good thing, it was just a craft. Then it was infiltrated and became something more by hungry for power people...in any case, it's bloody british/american branches of freemasonry which would be the worst, albert pike is only followed in the states, here there is nothing to do with albert pike in anything. lol




Ok. Whatever is right for you.:)

[celtic isis]

Good stuff mcmenek1. That is exactly the stuff that they aren't going to tell the plebs at the bottom. The plebs are simply energy sources for the entities and higher initiates to feed off... this whole illusion we call the matrix survives on this sort of stuff. Mason's have their conscious minds distracted while their subconscious minds are filled with shit.

Celtic Isis, notice those checquered squares are on police and emergency services uniforms... wheels within wheels, that's how the system operates, and it all leads back to centralised overseers.

Cheers, h.


excuse me but i found this out by MY PLEB AT THE BOTTOM.
You obviously don't know me very well on here if you think i don't know much about illuminati symbols lol

how dare you lol

Nothing clouds my mind, and my OH is no fool and they KNOW it.

Look, i know the ones at the top are bastards, i've even warned my OH about this, but like, freemasonry itself, the actual esoteric stuff, is positive, of course i can see that the ones who know the real deal are using this occult knowledge for bad.

sorry but i feel quite offended but what was said here.

BTW cooper HATED freemasons but cooper was also overly american lol and protestant.

Look, i've met with freemasons at my oh's lodge and well, ok i have to admit i don't like it. But it's not as clear cut as you all make out.

[celtic isis]

i will also say that well, i know that they get my OH to do alot of 'works' as in essays on current affairs type stuff...he's had like 3 to do in the last few months, big talks like on the subject. I guess they're seeing if he can be trusted or not? He's going up in the ranks quick as well...i keep my eye on it.

Not only that but those talks he does they get sent up to the head offices to be looked at by the masters of higher degrees. I guess this is how they get an idea how the adepts at the bottom are thinking and thenthey can assume that for the outside people (non freemasons) it's even less lol

i will also say my OH is no sheep lol. He's there to get any knowledge he can but he's his wn person and actually goes against the wishes of his fellow freemasons inthe lodge, like for instance for the elections, there is one candidate they are not mean to vote for as a freemason as this candidate was seen to be (You'll love this- -Fascist lol) and he voted for him lol

i respect my oh, obviously he doesn't tell me everything going on at the lodge but we talk when he gets home about what they talked about and if i ever wanted him to leave he would do it for me. i know tonight they are voting for the staff who run the upkeep of the lodge.
No black or white balls tonight though ;)

[celtic isis]

Hi,

The black and white squares with the pentagram in the middle is used by the freemasons to access energies and entities in other dimensions during their rituals.........the black and white squares represent balance and harmony.......that’s the state the energies in the 3rd dimension need to be in before other dimensions can be accessed........

the pentagram is used to create a gateway to other dimensions the geometry of a pentagram allows this to happen as it holds the Golden Ratio.........this is where the term ‘Stargate’ comes from.....the vibrations to access these other dimensions are created during their rituals....

Love
&
Peace

lol walk around churches or cathedrals, you'll see th same black and white checkerboard pattern on the floor

they don't access any other entitiies through the floors lol nevermind during their 'rituals' lol

the rituals are crap, i know about them, your first initiation you have to go into a room with no light and scrawl out your oath to freemasonry on the wall lol then they spin you around the lodge blindfolded lol

it's hardly magic.

also notice the word 'free' in freemason...ther eis no dogma in freemasonry, so you can't be sculpted to some freemason ideal lol

[edelweiss pirate]

Yes, black and white chequer-board tiles... Like the one in Sarah Paine's painting.

[celtic isis]

Good stuff mcmenek1. That is exactly the stuff that they aren't going to tell the plebs at the bottom. The plebs are simply energy sources for the entities and higher initiates to feed off... this whole illusion we call the matrix survives on this sort of stuff. Mason's have their conscious minds distracted while their subconscious minds are filled with shit.

Celtic Isis, notice those checquered squares are on police and emergency services uniforms... wheels within wheels, that's how the system operates, and it all leads back to centralised overseers.

Cheers, h.

two words for you:

OSWALD WIRTH....this is what freemasons here follow.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/105-4048845-2988412?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=oswald+wirth

[mcmenek1]

lol walk around churches or cathedrals, you'll see th same black and white checkerboard pattern on the floor

they don't access any other entitiies through the floors lol nevermind during their 'rituals' lol

Hi celtic isis,

Yes there are Black and White squares in certain churches and cathedrals.......a lot of these churches and cathedrals are sited above high energy points on the earths energy grid......."The Powers That Be" carry out dark rituals in these places such as horrific human sacrifices to suppress the female energy.......this results in upsetting the natural energy balance of duality the 3RD dimension which disconnects us from the higher energy vibrations that we need to be fully connected to the oneness of it all



the rituals are crap, i know about them, your first initiation you have to go into a room with no light and scrawl out your oath to freemasonry on the wall lol then they spin you around the lodge blindfolded lol

it's hardly magic.


Freemasons are sworn to secrecy not to divulge the true secrets of their craft to the uninitiated........they will not discuss these secrets even their most close family members......


also notice the word 'free' in freemason...ther eis no dogma in freemasonry, so you can't be sculpted to some freemason ideal lol

If a freemason does not do the bidding of his superiors........then that person will not progress up to the higher degrees where the true secrets of the craft are revealed......

Love
&
Peace

[celtic isis]

Hi celtic isis,

Yes there are Black and White squares in certain churches and cathedrals.......a lot of these churches and cathedrals are sited above high energy points on the earths energy grid......."The Powers That Be" carry out dark rituals in these places such as horrific human sacrifices to suppress the female energy.......this results in upsetting the natural energy balance of duality the 3RD dimension which disconnects us from the higher energy vibrations that we need to be fully connected to the oneness of it all




Freemasons are sworn to secrecy not to divulge the true secrets of their craft to the uninitiated........they will not discuss these secrets even their most close family members......



If a freemason does not do the bidding of his superiors........then that person will not progress up to the higher degrees where the true secrets of the craft are revealed......

Love
&
Peace

hi there :)

not necessarily so, regarding the "dogma"...i see what you mean, thy have to see if you can be "trusted" or not, but my guy doesn't do any bidding and he's steadily going up. :confused:

You know what, they do discuss things with family members. :D Anyway, i don't care what my fella does, so long as there aren't any females around lol as long as he doesn't make sacred sex with anyone else or masturbate in a coffin with a ribbon tied round his jewels lol it's really not as saucy as all that lol :D

[tinmenace]

but my guy doesn't do any bidding and he's steadily going up. :confused:



As far as you know.

[celtic isis]

As far as you know.

what's that supposed to mean! :confused:

er, if you met my fiancé you would know he doesn't do any bidding to anyone but me lol

look, it depends on the lodge.

i know my fiancé ok. We're soulmates.

[mcmenek1]

Anyway, i don't care what my fella does, so long as there aren't any females around lol as long as he doesn't make sacred sex with anyone else or masturbate in a coffin with a ribbon tied round his jewels lol it's really not as saucy as all that lol :D

lol :D:D:D.......that made me laugh celtic isis.......you are so funny......:):D:)

Love
&
Peace

[celtic isis]

lol :D:D:D.......that made me laugh celtic isis.......you are so funny......:):D:)

Love
&
Peace

lol :D it's skull and bones-ers who do that ;)

i used to tease my oh about being a freemason all the time before, and it used to hurt him. He knows his stuff, he is his own man, you know, he goes against freemasonry a lot, he's extremely spiritual and he is looking to practise certain healing therapies...which actually seems to be frowned upon slightly by freemasonry...so i guess that's one type of laid down law there...

just annoys me a bit that i seem to be looking like some dumb girl too in love to see anything lol it's not like that! i mean it is, i'm deeply in love with my oh, an he got more than he bargained for, i'm a fiesty irish girl lol i take no shit lol :)

so freemasons are bad then end of story lol (except mine) lol

[ho1ogram]

G'day celtic isis, I'm not picking on you or your oh. I have at least one mason in my extended family and a Knight of Malta in my family.

I reckon there are two key elements to the Illuminati that you are not seeing. One is the fact that all of the secret societies are connected in some way and have similar themes and often employ the same symbols. They all tie into the religious, political, media, military and intelligence organisations. This is the reason why so many use the checkers for instance. It has a vibrational effect that works on the subtle energy bodies of the members and participants. Which ties into the other key factor of the illuminati modus operandi: energy.

The matrix is a vibrational frequency that we are tuned into. It has physical worlds that we interact with every day and also realms and energy that are just beyond the range of our five senses. The Illuminati use and manipulate these energies for their own benefit. They are used to influence and frighten people in ways that the conscious mind often doesn't see. This is why symbols and rituals are so important to them. Pedophile rings are tied into all of this. Their sickest rituals are performed behind closed doors above the lower degrees.

You say that symbols can be positive or negative and this is true. But the participants of the rituals aren't the ones who designed the ritual and know what it's true meaning is all about. For instance in a masonic ceremony the members are told where to stand, what to wear, what to say and they are also told what the symbols mean. They are participants trusting in someone else, they don't know the original meaning and intent of the ceremony and who designed it and why. The Illuminati are liars. There whole existence depends upon lies and secrecy.

It is important for the Illuminati to have the same symbols and themes throughout their different organisations. It reminds the ones under mind control (such as mk ultra victims) that their handlers have influence in every institution and walk of life. It also has a subconscious effect on the population at large, helping to subliminally focus their energy to a defined set of points and limit their awareness and perception. Everything the Illuminati do is designed to keep us unaware of our true potential as beings of infinity.

i will also say that well, i know that they get my OH to do alot of 'works' as in essays on current affairs type stuff...he's had like 3 to do in the last few months, big talks like on the subject. I guess they're seeing if he can be trusted or not? He's going up in the ranks quick as well...i keep my eye on it.

Not only that but those talks he does they get sent up to the head offices to be looked at by the masters of higher degrees. I guess this is how they get an idea how the adepts at the bottom are thinking and thenthey can assume that for the outside people (non freemasons) it's even less lol

The part in bold is exactly how they work. They find out how their members think and then they can see who would make a good policy writer for the CFR for instance or who would be good to place in a position of controlled opposition where one side can be played off against the other.

Has this cleared things up? It is not a personal attack on you or your oh. Masons are thick on the ground you can't get by without bumping into one. Most are plebs, being used to promote the charitable side of masonry - a public relations exercise that gives masonry a good name in the community and provides them with new recruits.

BTW- You have used a lot of contradictory statements in your posts.

excuse me but i found this out by MY PLEB AT THE BOTTOM.
You obviously don't know me very well on here if you think i don't know much about illuminati symbols lol

how dare you lol

Nothing clouds my mind, and my OH is no fool and they KNOW it.

Look, i know the ones at the top are bastards, i've even warned my OH about this, but like, freemasonry itself, the actual esoteric stuff, is positive, of course i can see that the ones who know the real deal are using this occult knowledge for bad.

Here you admit the ones at the top are bastards and that the ones who know the real deal use the occult knowledge in a negative way. As they are running the show it doesn't matter then if the lower orders think it is positive. This is classic Illuminati tactics. Say one thing while doing another.


i respect my oh, obviously he doesn't tell me everything going on at the lodge
the rituals are crap, i know about them, your first initiation you have to go into a room with no light and scrawl out your oath to freemasonry on the wall lol then they spin you around the lodge blindfolded lol

it's hardly magic.So even at the lower levels he doesn't tell you everything yet you then claim to know about the rituals?!

also notice the word 'free' in freemason...ther eis no dogma in freemasonry, so you can't be sculpted to some freemason ideal lol Now I think you are joking. Have you heard the words "Operation Iraqi Freedom' or 'Homeland Security' or 'War on Drugs' or 'War on Terror'? Have you actually looked into the Illuminati and the way they operate? They mean the opposite of what they say.

...i will also say my OH is no sheep lol.....if i ever wanted him to leave he would do it for me
If he is no sheep why would he do something that you tell him to?

OSWALD WIRTH....this is what freemasons here follow. Exactly, they are followers, that is how the system works. They are being trained not to think outside the (masonic) square. Chaperoned from the cradle to the grave. All the masonic organisations over the world are linked at the top levels. (I'll look into Oswald, thanks, I don't know anything about him)

er, if you met my fiancé you would know he doesn't do any bidding to anyone but me lol So he does do someone's bidding.

i know my fiancé ok. We're soulmates. At the soul level there are no secrets... yet he keeps lodge secrets as he has sworn an oath to the brotherhood as you mentioned here: your first initiation you have to go into a room with no light and scrawl out your oath to freemasonry on the wall

In freemasonry meetings they have a bible open yet tell people they don't worship the christian God. This is classic Illuminati topsy turvy thinking designed to confuse the subconscious mind. The conscious mind is busy believing the explanations for all the contradictions which leaves the subconscious mind open for influencing. Rather than the two levels of the mind being in tune with each other, they are played off against each other.

BTW- is there a member at his lodge called m3? :D

Peace ci, love h.

[pollock]

...i will also say my OH is no sheep lol.....if i ever wanted him to leave he would do it for me


Dear celtic, if I was you I would try that theory out as fast as possible, if you want to keep your soulmate that is.
If he goes too far up the heirarcy the prize will be his soul and then you will only have a mate, and a brainwashed slave mate at that.
Be carefull how much you "lol" at the thought of him doing someone elses bidding!

I wish you all the best and all the protection you need!
F

[celtic isis]

G'day celtic isis, I'm not picking on you or your oh. I have at least one mason in my extended family and a Knight of Malta in my family.

I reckon there are two key elements to the Illuminati that you are not seeing. One is the fact that all of the secret societies are connected in some way and have similar themes and often employ the same symbols. They all tie into the religious, political, media, military and intelligence organisations. This is the reason why so many use the checkers for instance. It has a vibrational effect that works on the subtle energy bodies of the members and participants. Which ties into the other key factor of the illuminati modus operandi: energy.

The matrix is a vibrational frequency that we are tuned into. It has physical worlds that we interact with every day and also realms and energy that are just beyond the range of our five senses. The Illuminati use and manipulate these energies for their own benefit. They are used to influence and frighten people in ways that the conscious mind often doesn't see. This is why symbols and rituals are so important to them. Pedophile rings are tied into all of this. Their sickest rituals are performed behind closed doors above the lower degrees.

You say that symbols can be positive or negative and this is true. But the participants of the rituals aren't the ones who designed the ritual and know what it's true meaning is all about. For instance in a masonic ceremony the members are told where to stand, what to wear, what to say and they are also told what the symbols mean. They are participants trusting in someone else, they don't know the original meaning and intent of the ceremony and who designed it and why. The Illuminati are liars. There whole existence depends upon lies and secrecy.

It is important for the Illuminati to have the same symbols and themes throughout their different organisations. It reminds the ones under mind control (such as mk ultra victims) that their handlers have influence in every institution and walk of life. It also has a subconscious effect on the population at large, helping to subliminally focus their energy to a defined set of points and limit their awareness and perception. Everything the Illuminati do is designed to keep us unaware of our true potential as beings of infinity.



The part in bold is exactly how they work. They find out how their members think and then they can see who would make a good policy writer for the CFR for instance or who would be good to place in a position of controlled opposition where one side can be played off against the other.

Has this cleared things up? It is not a personal attack on you or your oh. Masons are thick on the ground you can't get by without bumping into one. Most are plebs, being used to promote the charitable side of masonry - a public relations exercise that gives masonry a good name in the community and provides them with new recruits.

BTW- You have used a lot of contradictory statements in your posts.



Here you admit the ones at the top are bastards and that the ones who know the real deal use the occult knowledge in a negative way. As they are running the show it doesn't matter then if the lower orders think it is positive. This is classic Illuminati tactics. Say one thing while doing another.



So even at the lower levels he doesn't tell you everything yet you then claim to know about the rituals?!

Now I think you are joking. Have you heard the words "Operation Iraqi Freedom' or 'Homeland Security' or 'War on Drugs' or 'War on Terror'? Have you actually looked into the Illuminati and the way they operate? They mean the opposite of what they say.


If he is no sheep why would he do something that you tell him to?

Exactly, they are followers, that is how the system works. They are being trained not to think outside the (masonic) square. Chaperoned from the cradle to the grave. All the masonic organisations over the world are linked at the top levels. (I'll look into Oswald, thanks, I don't know anything about him)

So he does do someone's bidding.

At the soul level there are no secrets... yet he keeps lodge secrets as he has sworn an oath to the brotherhood as you mentioned here:

In freemasonry meetings they have a bible open yet tell people they don't worship the christian God. This is classic Illuminati topsy turvy thinking designed to confuse the subconscious mind. The conscious mind is busy believing the explanations for all the contradictions which leaves the subconscious mind open for influencing. Rather than the two levels of the mind being in tune with each other, they are played off against each other.

BTW- is there a member at his lodge called m3? :D

Peace ci, love h.

er i KNOW all this already hologram lol

and freemasons and iluminati ain't the same thing mate

i've read "the sion revelation - inside the shadowy world of europes secret masters" inthat it shows how secret socieities all link up,it's incredible, i know all this.

anyway you don't have to prove anything to me.

masonic3 yep, it's funny cause none of you understand his codes lol :D

[celtic isis]

Dear celtic, if I was you I would try that theory out as fast as possible, if you want to keep your soulmate that is.
If he goes too far up the heirarcy the prize will be his soul and then you will only have a mate, and a brainwashed slave mate at that.
Be carefull how much you "lol" at the thought of him doing someone elses bidding!

I wish you all the best and all the protection you need!
F

thanks lol but it's not like this!!!!!

and i'm not in denial lol

it's no big deal with my OH ok, he does no bidding. He doesn't have the time lol

look, i know how apparently the freemasonic network works ok.

I am on the icke site after all.

and hologram there is no such thing as the matrix, it's a load of bollox!!!!

[celtic isis]

G'day celtic isis, I'm not picking on you or your oh. I have at least one mason in my extended family and a Knight of Malta in my family.

I reckon there are two key elements to the Illuminati that you are not seeing. One is the fact that all of the secret societies are connected in some way and have similar themes and often employ the same symbols. They all tie into the religious, political, media, military and intelligence organisations. This is the reason why so many use the checkers for instance. It has a vibrational effect that works on the subtle energy bodies of the members and participants. Which ties into the other key factor of the illuminati modus operandi: energy.

The matrix is a vibrational frequency that we are tuned into. It has physical worlds that we interact with every day and also realms and energy that are just beyond the range of our five senses. The Illuminati use and manipulate these energies for their own benefit. They are used to influence and frighten people in ways that the conscious mind often doesn't see. This is why symbols and rituals are so important to them. Pedophile rings are tied into all of this. Their sickest rituals are performed behind closed doors above the lower degrees.

You say that symbols can be positive or negative and this is true. But the participants of the rituals aren't the ones who designed the ritual and know what it's true meaning is all about. For instance in a masonic ceremony the members are told where to stand, what to wear, what to say and they are also told what the symbols mean. They are participants trusting in someone else, they don't know the original meaning and intent of the ceremony and who designed it and why. The Illuminati are liars. There whole existence depends upon lies and secrecy.

It is important for the Illuminati to have the same symbols and themes throughout their different organisations. It reminds the ones under mind control (such as mk ultra victims) that their handlers have influence in every institution and walk of life. It also has a subconscious effect on the population at large, helping to subliminally focus their energy to a defined set of points and limit their awareness and perception. Everything the Illuminati do is designed to keep us unaware of our true potential as beings of infinity.



The part in bold is exactly how they work. They find out how their members think and then they can see who would make a good policy writer for the CFR for instance or who would be good to place in a position of controlled opposition where one side can be played off against the other.

Has this cleared things up? It is not a personal attack on you or your oh. Masons are thick on the ground you can't get by without bumping into one. Most are plebs, being used to promote the charitable side of masonry - a public relations exercise that gives masonry a good name in the community and provides them with new recruits.

BTW- You have used a lot of contradictory statements in your posts.



Here you admit the ones at the top are bastards and that the ones who know the real deal use the occult knowledge in a negative way. As they are running the show it doesn't matter then if the lower orders think it is positive. This is classic Illuminati tactics. Say one thing while doing another.



So even at the lower levels he doesn't tell you everything yet you then claim to know about the rituals?!

Now I think you are joking. Have you heard the words "Operation Iraqi Freedom' or 'Homeland Security' or 'War on Drugs' or 'War on Terror'? Have you actually looked into the Illuminati and the way they operate? They mean the opposite of what they say.


If he is no sheep why would he do something that you tell him to?

Exactly, they are followers, that is how the system works. They are being trained not to think outside the (masonic) square. Chaperoned from the cradle to the grave. All the masonic organisations over the world are linked at the top levels. (I'll look into Oswald, thanks, I don't know anything about him)

So he does do someone's bidding.

At the soul level there are no secrets... yet he keeps lodge secrets as he has sworn an oath to the brotherhood as you mentioned here:

In freemasonry meetings they have a bible open yet tell people they don't worship the christian God. This is classic Illuminati topsy turvy thinking designed to confuse the subconscious mind. The conscious mind is busy believing the explanations for all the contradictions which leaves the subconscious mind open for influencing. Rather than the two levels of the mind being in tune with each other, they are played off against each other.

BTW- is there a member at his lodge called m3? :D

Peace ci, love h.

thanks for twisting everything i said there, omg you are so paranoid lol

i don't tell him to do anything, he loves me, if i wasn't happy with him being a freemason he wouldstop it. and BTW he was even going to a couple of months back cause he thought it wasn't worth staying in it.

they're not brainwashers lol in every lodge ok

and you're completely wrong about so many things up there - you are talking about illuminati not masons ok, it's not the same i'm sorry to tell you lol of course you will just say now the masons are the base for the illuminati lol

the rituals are ancient rituals, that doesn't make them all satanic lol

WTF do youcare anyway? Why don'y you just become a freemason and bring them down somehow lol if i was a guy that's what i'd do! lol if i was so against them!

excuse me but you are picking on me, talking to me in such a condescending way.

look icke isn't right about everything ok (meaning matrix stuff).

[celtic isis]

maybe you should go here hologram and see what i've been trying to do to wake people up, what have you done lol ????



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2113

[tinmenace]

and hologram there is no such thing as the matrix, it's a load of bollox!!!!

So, the truth emerges. CI, you are a Freemason apologist, and let me tell you, I'm going to be sorely pissed off if this thread goes to the rant room. I'm not sure if that is your intention, but just so you know, I will repost every single post in a new thread if this escalates to the point where this lands up in the rant room....obscured.

As an after thought, how can you be on David's "side" and then call his most important work a load of bollox?

What is your agenda?

[celtic isis]

So, the truth emerges. CI, you are a Freemason apologist, and let me tell you, I'm going to be sorely pissed off if this thread goes to the rant room. I'm not sure if that is your intention, but just so you know, I will repost every single post in a new thread if this escalates to the point where this lands up in the rant room....obscured.

As an after thought, how can you be on David's "side" and then call his most important work a load of bollox?

What is your agenda?

ah jeeze...look i have no agenda lol

sorry tinmenace, i was just answering what hologram was saying...i'm just really upset by all of this now.

talking to me like i know nothing.

i thought you would know me by now.

i'm not a freemason apologist, but not even icke says things are because of freemasonry.

[celtic isis]

look...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=61326&posted=1#post61326

i proimise to leave you to get back to topic now, just it's important to try and keep balanced...there are good points to fremasonry too even if it's just the knowledge, even if it's negative in the inner inner inner circles at least we can learn from the positive down below.

You're right though Pollock, i've been thinking about this, about if my fiancé goes up the ranks, you never know do you. I'll keep my eye on it, though he's really only there to be an 'insider'...i call him my little spy. :D

But yeah, i see how it can turn nasty.

[graflok]

lol what lol the lol fuck lol are lol you lol people lol talking lol about lol?

[tinmenace]

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8351/rotflmaoke0.gif

OMG Graf, you crack me up!

[lemonique]

lol what lol the lol fuck lol are lol you lol people lol talking lol about lol?

HaHa....it's probably one of the Masonic Codes he was speaking about. Yes I said HE :D

Cheers

[limelady]

lol what lol the lol fuck lol are lol you lol people lol talking lol about lol?

Got a bit of a nervous little laugh happening there graflok? ;)

[graflok]

lol what lol do lol you lol mean lol?
lol I'm lol perfectly lol normal lol.
lol I lol just lol have lol a lol little lol case lol of lol hyper lol ventilation lol
lol any lol body lol got lol a lol paper lol bag lol?

[auron]

http://www.9622.net/images/lol-gorilla.jpg

[tinmenace]

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_40.gif

[graflok]

http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/LOL-Doggie.jpg

[i_am]

lol what lol do lol you lol mean lol?
lol I'm lol perfectly lol normal lol.
lol I lol just lol have lol a lol little lol case lol of lol hyper lol ventilation lol
lol any lol body lol got lol a lol paper lol bag lol?



http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif

[tinmenace]

Dang!!! wtf??

Ok, Graf wins! :D

[auron]

Dang!!! wtf??

Ok, Graf wins! :D

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_40.gif

I agree!! :D

[graflok]

http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/c/clint_eastwood_oscar1.jpg
"Thank you, Tin, for this prestigious award.
And, now I'd like to take a moment and
thank all the little people who helped me to
completely sell out the human race just so
I could have a sweet life and sleep with all
those skinny blond chicks..."

[tinmenace]

You're killing me!

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_40.gif

[limelady]

lol what lol do lol you lol mean lol?
lol I'm lol perfectly lol normal lol.
lol I lol just lol have lol a lol little lol case lol of lol hyper lol ventilation lol
lol any lol body lol got lol a lol paper lol bag lol?


http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module14/images/paperbag.jpg

Enjoy! :D

[celtic isis]

i don't get it LOL...

i'm off for a rant in a mo...just wanted to say that i had a talk with my mason last night and found out a couple things i already knew lol...so there are lower degree lodges which he is in cause he only joined 4 years ago (a year before we met) anyway, once you get to be a master mason (he will be next year) then if you want to go any further you go to a higher degree lodge...this is the same all over the world.

When you progress to a certain degree, i don't know which one you can only go further up if you are "pulled up" by the higher masons...:rolleyes: No i already new his obviously but to hear him say it hmmm...

Now my fella is no bidder for anyone, TRUST ME ok though there are some masons who would lick the arses of their superiors to try and get to the top, he would NEVER do that. He works hard to find the "knowledge", and does it on HIS OWN TERMS.

You know, after the 'open' meeting (now that is a LOL moment there lol cause they don't tell you anything! Well after i was invited to the lodge. But i didn't go cause i didn't feel up to it at the time (seeing as i was reading Cooper's book lol about how freemasonry is the most evil practice in the world lol).

My fella doesn't hide things from me, he'd have a job doing so...even last night he rang a fellow mason who lost his mum recently and they were talking mason shop and i could hear everything...FYI they study Gnostism, gnosis...that's good no?

And when i sad that they 'follow' oswald wirth, it's no different than all of us following as in respecting Icke...

thank you lol :D

[celtic isis]

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4538/1182339651_8651.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4538/1182339651_8651.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

also my OH's lodge DOES NOT HAVE A BIBLE, let alone an open one at meetings. :D

[father ted]

I forgot to mention, apparently ben stiller's a mason.

[2013]

What is it with these people and their hats?



Yes, damn it, its come to a point where I feel like if I like the character the person portraying it is prob a crook:mad::mad:
Good thing I dont watch much tv these days, and what I do watch tends to be things like Monty Python and other such absurd pointless things!

Bah
F

monty Python? are they absurd and pointless, the holy grail life of brian and the meaning of life , all major themes being covered in those movies and they are all university educated .:D

[2013]

Power corrupts Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely!!!

I read the holy blood holy grail book years ago not long after it came out in paperback ,its what got me into the whole bloodline thing in the first place .Actually it was in my mates bookshelf and he didnt know how it got there no one did .Anyway The whole purpose of the book could of been to put this idea in place seeding it in the mass conciousness , things take time to grow.Not sure if it was that particular book that gave the list of the memebers of priory of sion but nostradamus was one .I have poste dbefore that maybe the prophecy aspect is more agenda than psychic just putting the ideas in palce again in order to grow at some future date so that if they dont come totally true they can still try and manipulate things to their advantage .I have just been to france recently and saw nostradamus;s house while there , also went to renne le chateau henry lincoln lives in the area and gives talks there on the subject As for the masonic thing like you say the 33 degree ones know more than the lower levels and it is human (reptilian?) nature to love a mystery and the ego likes to be massaged , im sure theres some who know nothing but like to imply they dont when pretending that really they do etc . :DAlso if everything they say is hte opposite as with symbolism then really the black and white checked flooring is really white and black ? lol.The police thing of the black and white though is true the temple guards and sheriff protecting as ever , the higher levels where are rife with masons .

[graflok]

I forgot to mention, apparently ben stiller's a mason.

I can believe that. Stiller is at the forefront of the degradation of comedy
that we've been seeing in films in recent years.

Jim Carrey is another in this category though I don't know that he is a
mason. Judging by Carrey's erratic emotional episodes (urinating on movie sets,
extreme mood swings, etc.) I suspect he is at least a "golem" (victim of
trauma-based mind control methods).

[ho1ogram]

Robert Menzies
Australian Prime Minister 1939-41 & 1949-66

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/RobertMenzies.jpg

Menzies helped to create the Liberal Party who, under John Howard, have been in government since 1996.

Menzies signed the ANZUS and SEATO treaties, sent troops to Korea and committed them to Vietnam. SEATO is an interesting one:
SEATO was designed to be a Southeast Asian version of NATO,...... President Eisenhower's Secretary of State John Foster Dulles (1953-1959)was the primary force behind the creation of SEATO, which expanded the concept of anti-communist collective security to southeast Asia.
Southeast Asia Treaty Organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Menzie's and Howard's terms in office are disturbingly similar. They are the longest serving pm's we have had; Menzies rode and helped to foster a wave of anti communist propaganda; Howard has been scaremongering and riding high on an anti-terrorism platform. Menzies was PM when WW2 broke out and Howard was PM when we became part of the Coalition of the Willing and invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. They both are unashamed monarchist's and U.S.A.'s lap dogs.

Honours: Kings Counsel (1929); Privy Councillor (1937); US League of Merit (1950); Companion of Honour (1951); Order of the Thistle (1963); Warden of the Cinque Ports (1965); Order of the Rising Sun, First Class (1973); Knight of the Order of Australia (1976)

• one of three former Prime Ministers awarded Japan’s Order of the Rising Sun, First Class (the others were Edmund Barton and John McEwen)
• the only Australian appointed to the Order of the Thistle, an honour in the gift of the reigning monarch
• Pattie Menzies was one of only three Australians to be awarded the Dame Grand Cross of the British Empire (the first was Florence Reid in 1917, the second was Mary Hughes in 1922)


http://primeministers.naa.gov.au/fastfacts.asp?pmSelectName=12&pmSelectDate=&Submit2=Go

[pollock]

monty Python? are they absurd and pointless, the holy grail life of brian and the meaning of life , all major themes being covered in those movies and they are all university educated .:D

Yes, I was trying to be funny, imo nothing they made is pointless and as for absurd, well I think I stick with that:D!
Im more a fan of the early flying circus, although I love the movies too, but they make more sense, and I like senseless humour best!

Does anyone know if any of the pythons had ties to the "other side" in the early years?
I know I dont really trust any of them these days, fame corrupts!

Splurge
F

[ho1ogram]

Does anyone know if any of the pythons had ties to the "other side" in the early years?
I know I dont really trust any of them these days, fame corrupts!

You have good reason not to trust them pollock, here's John Cleese and Terry Jones demonstrating the real, secret handshake...

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/monty_python/handshake02.html
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/monty_python/handshake02.html

:D

[pollock]

Yes but that is part of this sooo....
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=54tse61iat

Ahh...
I love a good laugh, well not as much as....
Nah, back to the point this is getting silly!:D

F

[celtic isis]

Power corrupts Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely!!!

I read the holy blood holy grail book years ago not long after it came out in paperback ,its what got me into the whole bloodline thing in the first place .Actually it was in my mates bookshelf and he didnt know how it got there no one did .Anyway The whole purpose of the book could of been to put this idea in place seeding it in the mass conciousness , things take time to grow.Not sure if it was that particular book that gave the list of the memebers of priory of sion but nostradamus was one .I have poste dbefore that maybe the prophecy aspect is more agenda than psychic just putting the ideas in palce again in order to grow at some future date so that if they dont come totally true they can still try and manipulate things to their advantage .I have just been to france recently and saw nostradamus;s house while there , also went to renne le chateau henry lincoln lives in the area and gives talks there on the subject As for the masonic thing like you say the 33 degree ones know more than the lower levels and it is human (reptilian?) nature to love a mystery and the ego likes to be massaged , im sure theres some who know nothing but like to imply they dont when pretending that really they do etc . :DAlso if everything they say is hte opposite as with symbolism then really the black and white checked flooring is really white and black ? lol.The police thing of the black and white though is true the temple guards and sheriff protecting as ever , the higher levels where are rife with masons .

you know a book you'd love there 2013 dealing with all this stuff and brilliantly researched/written is The Priory of sion - inside the shadowy world of europe's secret masters :)

OMG...i just checked they don't have this book anymore on amazon!!!!

The priory of sion is of course just a mask to hide the truth as always!

hey my peace offering to tinmenace didn't work there..some masons must have conspired to block it :D LOL LOL LOL LOL ;)

i know it's not funny!

:) here:


http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/20178/2003056125319203662_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003056125319203662)

[2013]

Yes but that is part of this sooo....
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=54tse61iat

Ahh...
I love a good laugh, well not as much as....
Nah, back to the point this is getting silly!:D

F

Do you remember when we used to watch things just for fun and entertainment "sigh "lol. The python mason sketch another classic make fun of the craft and people wont worry about it just some silly men doing odd things go back to sleep dont worry . :D

[tinmenace]

A little Freemason humor.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/freehuman.jpg

[tinmenace]

Aleister Crowley - (12 October 1875 – 1 December 1947) - Source: Freemasonry.bcy.ca (http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/crowley.html)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/aleistercrowley.jpg

"I had heard that freemasonry was a universal brotherhood and expected to be welcomed all over the world by brethren." (Crowley, Confessions, p. 695)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/crowley_mason.jpg

[ashyr]

funly enought the brethren "who dont partake in the outside world aparently " hahah joined forces with the NATIONAL partyhere in New zealand. youve probably heard abot it.. they did a 2 million dollar pamphlet drop around the country, with a secret agenda to get people to lean towards NATIONAL.

now the leader of the national party denied even knowing about this lol.

the truth came out and he OPENLY had to step down and say. yes i had an interview with the exclusive brethren and still tryed to say he didnt know abot the pamphlet drop. but that was overturned also. so he did know and thats why NATIONAL didnt win i spose. they lied to much. like always. so now we have a labour lead government. ha!.

why did they all of a suden stick there head up with there $$$ and try to manipulate the course of events with elections i wonder?

[tinmenace]

They're all corrupt!

[tru3]

It's too bad that such a funny show as Seinfeld has such creepy underpinnings.

Speaking of Michael Richards, I perceive his recent racial outburst incident as a
set up media event. Manipulation on racial themes is favorite ploy of the NWO
boys and they've been pushing that button lately. It also happened at about the
same time as Mel Gibson's reported racial rant.

right. and then we had imus, and even va. tech had racial underpinnings. almost immediately after hearing what had happened, my greatest concern was that the patsy would be african american. imo, i think that staging is just down the pike.

the 'urban male' is a perennial balrog in the media woodpile. in the south, race has been used to keep poor whites and blacks at each others' throats for centuries. in the north, chicago is the most segregated city in the country. chicago used to be the epicenter of union and radical activity in the late 19th/early 20th century. the segregation is planned and executed to keep different segments of the population apart, segments that have more similarities sociopolitically than differences.

"what's the matter with kansas" is a great book describing how people are manipulated (and delude themselves) in voting against their own economic and social interests.

race in america is the powderkeg that could split the country apart, in a way much more vicious than the civil war did. anything that promulgates division is certainly sanctioned and focused on, if not planned.

ironically, the more pc is enforced, the more voices are stifled. imo, that is the intent.

[tinmenace]

DeMolay International - LINK (http://www.demolay.org/home/index.shtml)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/demolay.jpg

DeMolay International (originally known as the Order of DeMolay), founded in Kansas City, Missouri in 1919, is an international youth fraternity for young men. DeMolay derives its name from Jacques DeMolay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar. It is a Masonic youth organization for boys ages 12-21, though no relation to a Mason is required in order to join. DeMolay was incorporated in the 1990's and is classified by the IRS as a 501(C)(3)

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeMolay_International)


Famous DeMolay members include:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/billclintonesquire.jpg
Former president of the USA, Bill Clinton (born August 19, 1946) - Mind Controlled Slave (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5907493475522160313&q=freemason+mind+control&total=108&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/zoetrobewd.JPG
Walt Disney (December 5, 1901 – December 15, 1966) - Enslaves the minds of children and their parents


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/johnsteinbeck.jpg
John Steinbeck (February 27, 1902 – December 20, 1968), author of many books including Cannery Row

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cannery_row.jpg


Cannery Row in There (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2813)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/canneryrowthere2.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/canneryrowthere.jpg
The island of Motu Motu



Also on the list of DeMolay members is Freemason John Wayne...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/johnwaynefreemason.jpg

Jack Halterman, Sr.,co-founder of LAFSCO with Bro. and Noble John Wayne in the early 1970's

Source (http://www.lafsco.com/)


The seven Cardinal Virtues of DeMolay are:

* Filial Love [see meaning of filial below]
* Reverence for Sacred Things [they should define sacred things, don't you think?]
* Courtesy
* Comradeship
* Fidelity
* Cleanness
* Patriotism [mind control at work]

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeMolay_International#The_Cardinal_Virtues)


FILIAL

Main Entry: fil·ial
Pronunciation: 'fi-lE-&l, 'fil-y&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin filialis, from Latin filius son -- more at FEMININE
1 : of, relating to, or befitting a son or daughter <filial obedience>
2 : having or assuming the relation of a child or offspring
- fil·ial·ly /-lE-&-lE, -y&-lE/ adverb

Source (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/filial)

[tinmenace]

I've just noticed this thread has been made STICKY. Thanks to whomever, for doing that. :)

[graflok]

http://www.bayarearadio.org/photos/gene-autry_x175.jpg

The late and very wealthy country music performer Gene Autry was a mason.
Autry owned a major league baseball team, the Angels (now partially owned by
Disney) as well as numerous other lucrative holdings.

Autry was also a movie actor (one of the worst ever) and one of his first films
in 1935 was called Phantom Empire.

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/18332/2001061876819797557_rs.jpg
The movie is about a civilization originating from Lemuria which now lives in
"a nation 20,000 feet underground." The movie featured various underworld
beings and creatures including a robot character (see movie poster above) that
looks similar to the robot Credo Mutwa reports having seen while he was
held by grays in their underground lair in Africa.

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/17910/2005167466995188399_rs.jpg

[tinmenace]

Yeah, when you scratch the surface, you find a lot of details that fill in the blanks, right SuperGraf?

Btw, when are you going to sign up with There (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2813)?

[graflok]

I dunno. I've never been able to stay interested in virtual reality stuff, computer
games, simulations, etc. I try them and then after 10 minutes I just want to go
outside. I guess I'm too old fashioned. :o

[the jock rock]

[QUOTE=graflok;58712]It's too bad that such a funny show as Seinfeld has such creepy underpinnings.

Speaking of Michael Richards, I perceive his recent racial outburst incident as a
set up media event. Manipulation on racial themes is favorite ploy of the NWO
boys and they've been pushing that button lately. It also happened at about the
same time as Mel Gibson's reported racial rant.[/QUOTE
Yes, i too ,think that the Mel Gibson racial rant was a set up.Well spotted!
Observation skills such as ours are not developed by everyone though.
Understanding what we see is another thing altogether.


The NWO won't get passed us all with their control freakery and badness.
We must all be on our guard and not trust everything we see or here.
All truth seekers are gifted with second sight in my opinion.You have it.
The NWO will not overcome prophets such as you!:D

[tru3]

The NWO won't get passed us all with their control freakery and badness.
We must all be on our guard and not trust everything we see or here.
All truth seekers are gifted with second sight in my opinion.You have it.
The NWO will not overcome prophets such as you!:D

graf's da man. :)

[julieray]

I read a link recently on the web by a 33 degree mason. I think it was a link from Illuminati News that in order to progress to the top, you are called and asked to spit on the cross. If you don't you are commended on your faith and if you do, you become a Satanist like one of them. Don't know whether or not this is true, perhaps there would be more to it than that to decide whether or not you are to progress to the top. Furthermore, what I don't understand is that if they are all Satanists - what is the point when you are already so old you've basically had it anyway, why sell your soul down the swanny when you probably only have a few months left on this earth anyway?? I can't understand that.

Just one other point on that golden Mutwa being.... I did a mass hypnotic regression in our spiritual circle a few years back then we looked into the future, probably thousands of years ahead. All of us saw nothing but domed buildings or mushroomed shaped buildings, becuase the earth had been destroyed probably. Anyway, I looked down at myself and I was golden... Looks like I will end up incarnating into one of those beings although I can't remember having the extremely large breasts though!!!:p

[celtic isis]

I read a link recently on the web by a 33 degree mason. I think it was a link from Illuminati News that in order to progress to the top, you are called and asked to spit on the cross. If you don't you are commended on your faith and if you do, you become a Satanist like one of them. Don't know whether or not this is true, perhaps there would be more to it than that to decide whether or not you are to progress to the top. Furthermore, what I don't understand is that if they are all Satanists - what is the point when you are already so old you've basically had it anyway, why sell your soul down the swanny when you probably only have a few months left on this earth anyway?? I can't understand that.

Just one other point on that golden Mutwa being.... I did a mass hypnotic regression in our spiritual circle a few years back then we looked into the future, probably thousands of years ahead. All of us saw nothing but domed buildings or mushroomed shaped buildings, becuase the earth had been destroyed probably. Anyway, I looked down at myself and I was golden... Looks like I will end up incarnating into one of those beings although I can't remember having the extremely large breasts though!!!:p

cooper said this too...you are asked to spit on the cross and if you DO, you are commended because you understand that RELIGON IS BUT A TOOL TO CONTROL THE MASSES.

c'est tout.

Not every lodge would do this, they mostly just prance around with one trouser leg rolled up (and of course i too find that stupid and odd...) look i'm looking into it ok.

[julieray]

That would be great if you could look into that thank you.

I have been reading lots lately with regards to the holy grail and the satanic bloodlines, the Illuminati etc., and from what I can gather, they all interlink so much with so much confusion I wonder if that is a deliberate attempt to confuse. For instance, I cannot see the link from the Knights Templar to the Masons, but from what I can gather, the Knights passed on the secrets of the holy grail to them. I also understand that the Knights Templar as still ongoing to this day, so why spend all those years keeping the so called secret just to divulge that information thousands of years later?? That is confusing as surely any secret organisation take these secrets to the grave, though why I cannot understand. Also, what is this damn big secret that the rest of us are not allowed to know, I do get so frustrated, but I do know that the Masons are not allowed to talk about politics or religion, but I think that is just so convenient for the Illuminati and I cannot understand how the most two most important topics that rule our world and where opinion is paramount and they cannot pose a view - is this really a society we would want to be part of where you are not allowed to speak your mind if you think things are not right?? I for one, would have to speak out because that is the person I am, I have views and everyone hears them!!!

[tinmenace]

Have you read The Biggest Secret (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12)?

You might find some answers in there. The secret that they keep from the rest of us IS about bloodline, but it's not what you think.

[father ted]

Did I mention richard pryor?

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200512/r66891_185040.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/b0/Rp1.jpg

[julieray]

Have you read The Biggest Secret (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12)?

You might find some answers in there. The secret that they keep from the rest of us IS about bloodline, but it's not what you think.

I haven't unfortunately, I am still wet behind the ears here I'm afraid, although I did know of David Icke, I am a novice still. I am spiritual and have always been interested in the unknown, but it is only really since I have finished my exams that I have had some time to search the web and read all the things I am interested in. As the Governments want, we are kept so busy no-one has time to see what is really going on.

I have started to watch the Reptilian DVD but my eyes were turning square, is this the real secret of the bloodline then??? Is this what that Masons are keeping to themselves or is it a secret that the whole Illuminati know about and are keeping it a secret??? See.... I am confused already!!!

I have read about aliens under our earth who eat people, are these one and the same beings?? What about Alfa Romeo and his symbol??? A surpent eating a human. Are these ultra wealthy individuals eating us and using our form?? If this is the big secret, why would normal human beings want to keep this a secret if they are not friendly and wish to do us harm??? I am not understanding that one.

I was always of the opinion that the Knights Templar were keepers of the holy grail (good) and the Catholic Church and other members of the Illuminati (not so good), so now are you saying that they are all pretty much the same?? It would make sense if these Reptilians were the illuminati, it would add up why they need to keep our vibrations low, because they are not human and cannot operate at a higher vibrational level than us, hence the fluoride in the water, chemicals in the food, mind control through the TV etc. etc.

So why the need to believe in God, and why are we not ready to know this secret, which isn't really a secret is it? Or is there more?????? I wish I knew! I have ordered a few books, but a friend is borrowing me one this evening about Jesus surviving and getting married, having children etc. etc. so I am going to read that first, then I have another re aliens and bible links. By the time I get to the bottom of all it, I'll be too old to care!

[tinmenace]

I haven't unfortunately, I am still wet behind the ears here I'm afraid, although I did know of David Icke, I am a novice still. I am spiritual and have always been interested in the unknown, but it is only really since I have finished my exams that I have had some time to search the web and read all the things I am interested in. As the Governments want, we are kept so busy no-one has time to see what is really going on.

I have started to watch the Reptilian DVD but my eyes were turning square, is this the real secret of the bloodline then??? Is this what that Masons are keeping to themselves or is it a secret that the whole Illuminati know about and are keeping it a secret??? See.... I am confused already!!!

I have read about aliens under our earth who eat people, are these one and the same beings?? What about Alfa Romeo and his symbol??? A surpent eating a human. Are these ultra wealthy individuals eating us and using our form?? If this is the big secret, why would normal human beings want to keep this a secret if they are not friendly and wish to do us harm??? I am not understanding that one.

I was always of the opinion that the Knights Templar were keepers of the holy grail (good) and the Catholic Church and other members of the Illuminati (not so good), so now are you saying that they are all pretty much the same?? It would make sense if these Reptilians were the illuminati, it would add up why they need to keep our vibrations low, because they are not human and cannot operate at a higher vibrational level than us, hence the fluoride in the water, chemicals in the food, mind control through the TV etc. etc.

So why the need to believe in God, and why are we not ready to know this secret, which isn't really a secret is it? Or is there more?????? I wish I knew! I have ordered a few books, but a friend is borrowing me one this evening about Jesus surviving and getting married, having children etc. etc. so I am going to read that first, then I have another re aliens and bible links. By the time I get to the bottom of all it, I'll be too old to care!


The answers will come to you. Please read the book I have recommended. Once you've read it, A LOT will suddenly come into focus for you. I don't want to give you any expectations because I want you to read it with my opinions affecting you in any way.

Just read it, and then you'll understand why all these secret societies are so secret. Then you'll understand WHY they have to keep it so secret because if everyone would just wake up and realize what's in front of them, this entire nightmare will end.

It cracked my mind wide open, and I've never looked back.

Also, the Madeleine thing will take on a new meaning for you.

[tinmenace]

25 LANDMARKS OF FREEMASONRY



The Modes of recognition.


The division of Symbolic Masonry into three degrees.


The legend of the third degree.


The government of the fraternity by a presiding officer called a Grand Master, who is elected from the body of tile craft.
[Tile craft?]


The prerogative of the Grand Master to preside over every assembly of the craft, wheresoever and whensoever held.


The prerogative of the Grand Master to grant dispensations for conferring degrees at irregular times.


The prerogative of the Grand Master to grant dispensation for opening and holding lodges.


The prerogative of the Grand Master to make Masons on sight.


The necessity of Masons to congregate in lodges.
[So that their collective consciousness can be harnessed as an energy source to power their "craft"]


The government of every lodge by a Master and two Wardens.
[Wardens? Really? How appropriate...:rolleyes:]


The necessity that every lodge, when duly congregated, should be tyled.
[I can't find "tyled" in any dictionary. Is this the same as tiled? What does this mean?]


The right of every Mason to be represented in all general meetings of the craft and to instruct his representatives.


The right of every Mason to appeal from the decision of his brethren in lodge convened, to the Grand Lodge or General Assembly of Masons.


The right of every Mason to visit and sit in every regular lodge.
[Why not every lodge? Why only "regular" lodges?]


That no visitor, not known to some brother present as a Mason, can enter a lodge without undergoing an examination.
Examination? What kind of examination? Do you mean interrogated?


That no lodge can interfere in the business or labor of another lodge.


That every Freemason is amendable to the laws and regulations of the Masonic Jurisdiction in which he resides.
[There are Masonic jurisdiction laws in residential areas? What are they? Where can we find them?]


That every candidate for initiation must be a man, free born and of lawful age.
[Why are women not allowed to be true Freemasons?]


That every Mason must believe in the existence of God as the Grand Architect of the Universe.
[Why?]


That every Mason must believe in a resurrection to a future life.
[Why?]


That a book of the law of God must constitute an indispensable part of the furniture of every lodge.
[Book of the Law? Aleister Crowley's book was named that. If you mean Bible, why not just say Bible? Why say "Book of the Law of God"?]


That all men, in the sight of God, are equal and meet in the lodge on one common level.
[Then why have levels at all? Why have a hierarchy?]


That Freemasonry is a secret society in possession of secrets that cannot be divulged.
[Why? What is the reason for these secrets to be kept secret? Why are only Freemasonic men entitled to know this secret?]


That Freemasonry consists of a speculative science founded on an operative art.
[Yes, I know. It's based on the fake version of natural magick (consciousness and intuition), called quantum mechanics, and it's how you craft your spells of oppression and darkness.]


That the landmarks of Masonry can never be changed. These constitute the landmarks, or as they have sometimes been called, "the body of Masonry," in which it is not in the power of man or a body of men to make the least innovation.

Source - MasonicWorld.com (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks%20of%20freemasonry.htm)











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LANDMARK NINTH

THE NECESSITY FOR FREEMASONS TO CONGREGATE IN LODGES is another Landmark. It is not to be understood by this that any ancient Landmark has directed that permanent organization of subordinate Lodges which constitutes one of the features of the Masonic system as it now prevails. But the Landmarks of the Order always prescribed that Freemasons should from time to time congregate together, for the purpose of either operative or speculative labor, and that these congregations should be called Lodges. Formerly these were extemporary meetings called together for special purposes, and then dissolved, the brethren departing to meet again at other times and other places, according to the necessity of circumstances. But Warrants of Constitution, By-laws, permanent officers and annual arrears, are modern innovations wholly outside of the Landmarks, and dependent entirely on the special enactments of a comparatively recent period.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks2.htm)


Just a hint, but I think it's clear that they need the energy of collective consciousness harnessed every now and again.


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LANDMARK TENTH

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CRAFT, when so congregated in a Lodge by a Master and two Wardens, is also a Landmark. To show the influence of this ancient law, it may be observed by the way, that a congmgation [sic] of Freemasons meeting together under any other government, as that for instance of a president and vice-president, or a chairman and sub-chairman, would not be recognized as a Lodge. The presence of a Master and two Wardens is as essential to the valid organization of a Lodge as a Warrant of Constitution is at the present day. The names, of course, vary in different languages, the Master, for instance, being called Venerable in French Freemasonry, and the Wardens Surveillants, but the officers, their number, prerogatives and duties, are everywhere identical.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks2.htm)



They have to have the right energies and symbols in place for the "craft" to work, you see?




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LANDMARK ELEVENTH

THE NECESSITY THAT EVERY LODGE, WHEN CONGREGATED, SHOULD BE DULY TILED, is an important Landmark of the Institution, which is never neglected. The necessity of this law arises from the esoteric character of Freemasonry. As a secret Institution, its portals must of course be guarded from the intrusion of the profane, and such a law must therefore always have been in force from the very begginning [sic] of the Order. It is therefore properly classed among the rnosi incient [sic] Landmarks. The office of Tiler is wholly independent of any special enactment of Grand or Subordinate Lodges, although these may and do prescribe for him additional duties, which vary in different jurisdictions. But the duty of guarding the door, and keeping off cowans and eavesdroppers, is an ancient one, which constitutes a Landmark for his government.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks2.htm)



Portals must be guarded, eh?


Cowan

\Cow"an\ (kou"an), n. [Cf. OF. couillon a coward, a cullion.] One who works as a mason without having served a regular apprenticeship. [Scot.]

Note: Among Freemasons, it is a cant term for pretender, interloper.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cowan)

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LANDMARK FIFTEENTH

It is a Landmark of the Order, THAT NO VISITOR, UNKNOWN TO THE BRETHREN PRESENT, or to some one of them as a Freemason, can enter a Lodge without first passing an examination according to ancient usage. Of course, if the visitor is known to any brother present to be a Mason in good standing, and if that brother will vouch for his qualifications, the examination may be dispensed with, as the Landmark refers only to the cases of strangers, who are not to be recognized unless after strict trial, due examination, or lawful information.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)




Ancient Usage. Anyone who cannot see that this organization is about ritualistic black magick, is in denial.




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LANDMARK SEVENTEENTH

It is a Landmark that EVERY FREEMASON is AMENABLE TO THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS OF THE MASONIC JURISDICTION in which he resides, and this although he may not be a member of any Lodge. Non-affiliation, which is, in fact, in itself a Masonic offence [sic], does not exempt a Freemason from Masonic jurisdiction.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)



Laws that the rest of us don't know about? Laws that affect the areas that we live in, but we don't know about them and we have no say in the matter. If they are so covert and clandestine at a local level, can you just imagine the extent of their control at the upper-governmental levels?





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LANDMARK EIGHTEENTH

CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS OF CANDIDATES FOR INITIATION are derived from a Landmark of the Order. These qualifications are that he shall be a man-shall be unmutilated [sic], free born, and of mature age. That is to say, a woman, a cripple, or a slave, or one born in slavery, is disqualified for initiation into the rites of Freemasonry. Statutes, it is true. have from time to time been enacted, enforcing or explaining these principles; but the qualifications really arise from the very nature of the Masonic Institution, and from its symbolic teachings, and have always existed as Landmarks.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)



"Unmutilated"? Does circumcision count?

So, they put women, cripples and slaves in the same category. Wow!

Very nature of the "Symbolic Teachings"? Why do you just come out and say magick? Dickwods!

Your secret is out, and your time is up ;)

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LANDMARK NINETEENTH

A BELIEF IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD AS THE GRAND ARCHITECT of the Universe, is one of the most important Landmarks of the Order. It has been always deemed essential that a denial of the existence of a Supreme and Superintending Power, is an absolute disqualification for initiation. The annals of the Order never yet have furnished or could furnish an instance in which an avowed atheist was ever made a Freemason. The very initiatory ceremonies of the First Degree forbid and prevent the possibility of so monstrous an occurrence.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)



They need to know that your mind and soul is already under the spell of dogma so that your energy can be harvested undetected.

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LANDMARK TWENTIETH

Subsidiary to this belief in God, as a Landmark of the Order, is THE BELIEF IN A RESURRECTION TO A FUTURE LIFE. This Landmark is not so positively impressed on the candidate by exact words as the preceding; but the doctrine is taught by very plain implication, and runs through the whole symbolism of the Order. To believe in Freemasonry, and not to believe in a resurrection, would be an absurd anomaly, which could only be excused by the reflection, that he who thus confounded his belief and his skepticism, was so ignorant of the meaning of both theories as to have no rational foundation for his knowledge of either.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)



So, why do they tell you Freemasonry is about charity and that kind of stuff, when clearly it is ALL about your spirituality and belief system? Why do Freemasons have Temples and altars if they are not a religion?

They ARE a religion. The princes at the top use the consciousness and energy of the plebs at the bottom to craft their wicked spells. This is the true nature of Freemasonry.

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Update:

Michael Baigent, the editor of Freemasonry Today is definitely a Freemason. His own words tell us so... Not really a surprise, right? I very much doubt they would allow anyone other than a Freemason edit their magazine.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/michaelbaigenteditor.jpg

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LANDMARK TWENTY-FIRST

It is a Landmark, that a "BOOK OF THE LAW" shall constitute an indispensable part of the furniture of every Lodge. I say advisedly, a Book of the Law, because it is not absolutely required that everywhere the Old and New Testaments shall be used. The "Book of the Law" is that volume which, by the religion of the country, is believed to contain the revealed will of the Grand Architect of the Universe. Hence, in all Lodges in Christian countries, the Book of the Law is composed of the Old and New Testaments; in a country where Judaism was the prevailing faith, the Old Testament alone would be sufficient; and in Mohammedan countries, and among Mohammedan Freemasons, the Koran might be substituted. Freemasonry does not attempt to interfere with the peculiar religious faith [Don't they mean particular religious faith, do they??] of its disciples, except so far as relates to the belief in the existence of God, and what necessarily results from that belief. The Book of the Law is to the speculative Freemason his spiritual Trestle-board; without this he cannot labor; whatever he believes to be the revealed will of the Grand Architect constitutes for him this spiritual Trestle-board, and must ever be before him in his hours of speculative labor, to be the rule and guide of his conduct. The Landmark, therefore, requires that a Book of the Law, a religious code of some kind, purporting to be an exemplar of the revealed will of God, shall form an essential part of the furniture of every Lodge.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)




The Trestle-Board is defined to be the board upon which the Master inscribes the designs by which the Craft are to be directed in their labors. The French and German Freemasons have confounded the Trestle-Board with the Tracing-Board; and Doctor Oliver (Landmarks I, page 132) has not avoided the error. The two things are entirely different. The trestle is a framework for a table-in Scotch, trest; the Trestle-Board is the board placed for convenience of drawing on that frame. It contains nothing but a few diagrams, usually geometrical figures. The Tracing-Board is a picture formerly drawn on the floor of the Lodge, whence it was called The Floor-Cloth or Carpet. It contains a delineation of the symbols of the Degree to which it belongs. The Trestle-Board is to be found only in the Entered Apprentice's Degree. There is a Tracing-Board in every Degree, from the first to the highest. And, lastly, the Trestle-Board is a symbol; the Tracing-Board is a piece of furniture or picture containing the representation of many symbols.

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It is probable that the Trestle-Board, from its necessary use in Operative Masonry, was one of the earliest symbols introduced into the Speculative system. It is not, however, mentioned in the Grand Mystery, published in 1724. But Prichard, who wrote only six years afterward, describes it, under the corrupted name of Trestle-Board, as one of the immovable jewels of an Apprentice's Lodge. Browne, in 1880, following Preston, fell into the error of calling it a Tracing-Board, and gives from the Prestonian lecture what he terms "a beautiful degree of comparison," in which the Bible is compared to a Tracing-Board. But the Bible is not a collection of symbols, which a Tracing-Board is, but a Trestle-Board that contains se plan for the construction of a spiritual Temple. Webb, however, when he arranged his system of lectures, took the proper view, and restored the true word, Trestle-Board.

Notwithstanding these changes in the name, Trestle-Board, Trestle-Board, Tracing-Board, and Trestle-Board again, the definition has continued from the earliest part of the eighteenth century to the present Day the same. It has always been enumerated among the jewels of the Lodge, although the English system says that it is immovable and the American movable; and it has always been defined as "a Board for the Master Workman to draw his designs upon." In Operative Masonry, the Trestle-Board is of vast importance. It was on such an implement that the genius of the ancient Masters worked out those problems of architecture that have reflected an unfading luster on their skill. The Trestle-Board was the cradle that nursed the infancy of such mighty monuments as the cathedrals of Strassburg and Cologne; and as they advanced in stature, the Trestle board became the guardian spirit that directed their growth. Often have those old Builders pondered by the midnight lamp upon their Trestle-Board, working out its designs with consummate taste and knowledge-here springing an arch, and turning an angle there, until the embryo edifice Stood forth in all the wisdom, strength, and beauty of the Master's art.

What, then, is its true Symbolism in Speculative Freemasonry? To construct his earthly Temple, the Operative Mason followed the architectural designs laid down on the Trestle-Board, or book of plans of the architect. By these he hewed and squared his materials; by these he raised his walls; by these he constructed his arches; and by these strength and durability, combined with grace and beauty, were bestowed upon the edifice which he was constructing.

In the Masonic Ritual, the Speculative Freemason is reminded that, as the Operative Artists erects his temporal building in accordance with the rules and designs laid down on the Trestle-Board of the Master Workman, so should he erect that spiritual building, of which the material is a type, in obedience to the rules and designs, the precepts and commands, laid down by the Grand Architect of the Universe in those great books of nature and revelation which constitute the spiritual Trestle-Board of every Freemason.

The Trestle-Board is then the Symbol of the natural and moral law. Like every other Symbol of the Order, it is universal and tolerant in its application, and while, as Christian Freemasons, we cling with unfaltering integrity to the explanation which makes the Scriptures of both Dispensations our Trestle-Board, we permit our Jewish and Mohammedan Brethren to content themselves with the books of the Old Testament or Koran. Freemasonry does not interfere with the peculiar form or development of any one's religious faith. All that it asks is that the interpretation of the symbol shall be according to what each one supposes to be the revealed will of his creator. But so rigidly exacting is it that the symbol shall be preserved and, in some rational way, interpreted, that it peremptorily excludes the atheist from its communion, because, believing in no Supreme Being-no Divine Architect-he must necessarily be without a spiritual Trestle-Board on which the designs of that Being may be inscribed for his direction.

Source - Masonic Dictionary (http://www.masonicdictionary.com/trestleboard.html)

From the same page in the next section, By Brother H.L. Haywood, Iowa:

For instance, we Masons believe that much of the unhappiness in the world is due to ignorance, and we believe that if all men were well educated they would be happier than they are.

What about the happiness of women, Brother Haywood?







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LANDMARK TWENTY-THIRD

THE SECRECY OF THE INSTITUTION is another and a most important Landmark . There is some difficulty in precisely defining what is meant by a secret society. If the term refers, as perhaps, in strictly logical language it sh6uld [sic], to those associations whose designs are concealed from the public eye[1], and whose members are unknown[2], which produce their results in darkness[3], and whose operations are carefully hidden from the public gaze[4]-a definition which will be appropriate to many political clubs and revolutionary combinations in despotic countries, where reform, if it is at all to be effected, must be effected by stealth[5]-then clearly Freemasonry is not a secret society. Its design is not only publicly proclaimed, but is vaunted by its disciples as something to be venerated-its disciples are known, for its membership is considered an honor to be coveted-it works for a result of which it boasts-the civilization and refinement of man, the amelioration of his condition, and the reformation of his manners.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)




1 -"whose designs are concealed from the public eye"
They most definitely ARE concealed from the public eye. Go back a few posts and you will see that no non-mason is allowed into a Freemason Lodge without being interrogated. This organization is full of contradictions!


2 - "whose members are unknown"
There are many members that keep their membership a secret. In fact Freemasons have rejected a request to make their members known, especially at the higher levels.


3 - "which produce their results in darkness"
What an interesting point to make. Why even mention this point at all? Considering all previous contradictions and lame excuses the Freemasons give about their "craft", I'm not surprised that they would put their foot in the bucket by drawing attention to the VERY THING THAT THEY'RE DOING!


4 - "whose operations are carefully hidden from the public gaze"
Well, they're certainly not allowing any non-masons to know their operations, are they? Especially not women, cripples and slaves. :rolleyes:


5 - "a definition which will be appropriate to many political clubs and revolutionary combinations in despotic countries, where reform, if it is at all to be effected, must be effected by stealth"
That's exactly where we're headed, and I think that we can confidently describe the USA, Europe and Britain as well on their way to full blown fascism. Another blatant contradiction. Is it deliberate? Or is it just ignorance?

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LANDMARK TWENTY-FOURTH

THE FOUNDATION OF A SPECULATIVE SCIENCE UPON AN OPERATIVF [sic] ART, and the symbolic use and explanation of the terms of that art, for purposes of religious or moral teaching, constitute another Landmark of the Order. The Temple of Solomon was the cradle of the Institution, and, therefore, the reference to the operative Masonry, which constructed that magnificent edifice to the materials and implements which were employed in its construction, and to the artists who were engaged in the building, are all component and essential parts of the body of Freemasonry, which could not be substracted from it without an entire destruction of the whole identity of the Order. Hence, all the comparatively modern rites of Freemasonry, however they may differ in other respects, religiously preserve this temple history and these operative elements,. as the substratum of all their modifications of the Masonic system.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)


Why don't you just come out and say it - like the men you claim to be. Just admit y'all are into dark magick and that you use your initiates as battery cells to power your sorcery. Just say it. Be real men.

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LANDMARK TWENTY-FIFTH

The last and crowning Landmark of all is, that THESE LANDMARKS CAN NEVER BE CHANGED. Nothing can be subtracted from them-nothing can be added to them-not the slightest modification can be made in them. As they were received from our predecessors, we are bound by the most solemn obligations of duty to transmit them to our successors. Not one jot or one title of these unwritten laws can be repealed; for in respect to them, we are not only willing, but compelled to adopt the language of the sturdy old barons of England, Nolumus leges mutari, let the laws abide.

Source (http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/25%20landmarks3.htm)


The landmarks (aka spells) can never be changed. That's because the sorcerers that put them in place had a long term goal, and need the spell to stay just the way it is in order to achieve their agenda. All the modern day Freemasons are doing, is reinforcing the spell and serving as it's energy source.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/coppertop.jpg

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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/bclintonfreemasonrytoday.jpg

Bill Clinton honored by Freemasonry Today magazine. (http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/public/index-05.php) Clinton was initiated into DeMolay International (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63564&postcount=137)
- DeMolay was the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/demolay.jpg

A lovely example of what Freemasonic mind control (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5907493475522160313&q=freemason+mind+control&total=108&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0) can do for you :rolleyes:
You can even become the president of the biggest bully-country in the world!

Doubt it not!

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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/queensconjurer.jpg
Source - Freemasonry Today (http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/public/index-21.php)


The Queen's Conjurer - You can't read the article unless you subscribe, but I looked it up elsewhere, and the "Queen's Conjurer" refers to Dr. John Dee, and the Queen they're talking about is Elizabeth I. The "Virgin" Queen, after whom the loomie state, Virgin-ia, was named. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3234)

The CONJURER, eh? It hardly surprises me that Freemasonry Today would feature such an article, because this is what Freemasonry is about. They're a bunch of sorcerers, and they think that their spell is still nicely in place and that the rest of us are unable to see beyond it.

Guess what boys, it's slipping, quite rapidly, I might add. Your intentions are no longer invisible, and your true nature is showing. No matter how you keep it secret, there are some that can see right through the smoke screen. ;)


John Dee

Thought

Dee was an intensely pious Christian, but his Christianity was deeply influenced by the Hermetic and Platonic-Pythagorean doctrines that were pervasive in the Renaissance. He believed that number was the basis of all things and the key to knowledge, that God's creation was an act of numbering. From Hermeticism, he drew the belief that man had the potential for divine power, and he believed this divine power could be exercised through mathematics. His cabalistic angel magic (which was heavily numerological) and his work on practical mathematics (navigation, for example) were simply the exalted and mundane ends of the same spectrum, not the antithetical activities many would see them as today.[11] His ultimate goal was to help bring forth a unified world religion through the healing of the breach of the Catholic and Protestant churches and the recapture of the pure theology of the ancients.

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee#Thought)



Guess what? The United States of America is the laboratory for this EXPERIMENT. That's right, folks....


From the VIRGIN-ia (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3234) thread:
In 1606 King James 1 granted a Royal Charter to the Virginia Company of London, an English joint stock company of which James was a major shareholder, to settle colonies in North America.

This is the Virginia Company Seal. Please note the Vesica Piscis shape.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Virginia_Company_of_London_Seal.jpg

Also known as the mandorla, this shape is seen in a lot of Christian art. Read more about this vaginal symbol at the The Pentagram, Stars and other Symbols (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2368) thread

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/mandorla.jpg

More can be read about the Virginia Company in David’s book The Biggest Secret (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12)

I’ll just give you a little tidbit to whet your appetite (for those of you that have not read this explosive book)


The Virginia Company owned most of the land of what we now call the USA, and
any lands up to 900 miles offshore. This included Bermuda and most of what is now
known as the Caribbean Islands. The Virginia Company (the British Crown and the
bloodline families) had rights to 50%, yes 50%, of the ore of all gold and silver
mined on its lands, plus percentages of other minerals and raw materials, and 5% of
all profits from other ventures. These rights, the charters detailed, were to be passed
on to all heirs of the owners of the Virginia Company and therefore continue to
apply... forever!

The lands of the Virginia Company were granted to the colonies under a Deed of
Trust (on lease) and therefore they could not claim ownership of the land. They
could pass on the perpetual use of the land to their heirs or sell the perpetual use, but
they could never own it. Ownership was retained by the British Crown.

Now, get this. All of the above still applies today! Read those percentages once more
and let the magnitude of that sink in. After the original 13 (again!) American colonies
won their ‘independence’ and an ‘independent’ country was formed after 1783, the
Virginia Company simply changed its name to... the United States of America.

- David Icke, The Biggest Secret (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12)



“Ownership is retained by the British Crown”. Most of us recognize that statement as IMMINENT DOMAIN which means that you don’t really own your property, even though you’re paying a mortgage on it. You're simply paying for the right to use the space and also the right to sell that right to the next fool.








John Dee has often been associated with the Voynich Manuscript. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1488) Wilfrid M. Voynich, who bought the manuscript in 1912, suggested that Dee may have owned the manuscript and sold it to Rudolph II. Dee's contacts with Rudolph were far less extensive than had previously been thought, however, and Dee's diaries show no evidence of the sale. Dee was, however, known to have possessed a copy of the Book of Soyga, another enciphered book.

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee#Reputation_and_significance)






A few images of the actual Voynich Manuscript

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/voy.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/voy2.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/voy3.jpg

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John Wilkes (17 October 1725 – 26 December 1797)
English radical, journalist and politician

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He was the second son of Israel Wilkes, a successful malt distiller from Clerkenwell. Wilkes was educated initially at an academy at Hertford and then had a private tutor. On 23 May 1747 he was married to Mary Meade, heiress of the manor of Aylesbury. This brought him a comfortable fortune and social status among the gentry of Buckinghamshire. The couple had a daughter but their marriage did not last long. Wilkes used his wife's money to set up as a country squire and to get political status. Wilkes was extremely ugly and had a dreadful squint but he was very witty. During one of his fights with the government he was invited to make up a table at cards but declined, saying: 'Do not ask me, for I am so ignorant that I cannot tell the difference between a king and a knave.' The Earl of Sandwich's comment that Wilkes would die either of the pox or on the gallows brought the response: 'That depends, my lord, whether I embrace your mistress or your principles.'

Source (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/c-eight/people/wilkes.htm)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/johnwilkes.jpg
Freemasonry Today (http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/public/index-40.php)


John Wilkes Booth - the assassin of President Abraham Lincoln.
He was the great grandson of Elizabeth Wilkes, who was related to John Wilkes, after whom he was named.
I haven't found any evidence that John Wilkes Booth was a Freemason.

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John Wilkes Booth

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The William Morgan Incident

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Inscription on the monument reads:
"Sacred to the memory of Wm. Morgan, a native of Virginia, a Capt. in the War of 1812, a respectable citizen of Batavia, and a martyr to the freedom of writing, printing and speaking the truth. He was abducted from near this spot in the year 1826, by Freemasons and murdered for revealing the secrets of their order. The court records of Genesee County, and the files of the Batavia Advocate, kept in the Recorders office contain the history of the events that caused the erection of this monument."





http://www.globalfailure.com/images/antimasonicalmanac.jpg
California Freemason (http://www.freemason.org/documents/CFM_spring_07.pdf)

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One has to wonder why so many people and organizations have spoken out against Freemasonry.
Why would they be singled out over and over again? Here are some more Anti-Masonic publications (http://www.freemason.org/documents/CFM_spring_07.pdf)


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/snakestamp.jpg
Wow! A reptile. What an interesting analogy!




http://www.globalfailure.com/images/bookbehindlodgedoor.jpg
Somebody thought it wasn't paranoid or fantastic.
In fact this person decided to risk everything to publish this book.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/backpagebehindthelodgedoor.jpg
If this was disinfo, why wasn't the author sued?
Why? Because they don't want anyone probing too deep.
They don't want the truth uncovered.
Instead they'll participate in character assassination by calling the author paranoid.
Hmmm, where have I hear that word before?? Oh That's right...another vicious Freemason apologist, I believe.





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A handbook? How is a handbook anti-Freemason? This is all just damage control, because there is an awakening, and they are desperate to keep their spell in place...
by pretending to upfront about anti-Freemason information...
as though they have nothing to hide.


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/serbianstamp.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/serbianmasonicstamp.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/nazimasonpamphlet.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/serbianhoodstamp.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonicbaphomet.jpg
Of course we know this is true because Albert Pike said so in his book, Morals and Dogma; (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html)



"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."

"Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion...Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it... The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason… every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself."

"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god... Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light...Doubt it not!"

Is there really any doubt that the upper echelons of Freemasonry are being honest with their own initiates?
Let alone the rest of the world...?
They are sorcerers. It's that simple.

[tinmenace]

Interesting reading from Rense.com (http://rense.com/general77/behidnd.htm)




http://www.globalfailure.com/images/freemasonritual.jpg
Masons Behind Britain's Network Of Spy Cameras
STOP INJUSTICE NOW
catchthesun2@yahoo.co.uk
7-4-7


PRESS RELEASE International Mens Organisation

Britains high level masonic controllers are behind virtually every spy camera system in the UK. From the suppliers of this sinister "1984" regime of control and monitoring we are seeing the build up of a society that is having to tolerate huge numbers of spy cameras making vast profits for the suppliers(masons),operators(masons) and controllers(masons).

WHY do masons want this level of monitoring and control?We are all targets of their schemes. Those schemes include using all and every bit of information they can gather against you then drag you through British courts controlled almost entirely by masonic judges and lawyers, none of it before juries.The system would fail with juries and the main reason they are detemined to remove jury hearings from all but the most serious of criminal cases. Those cases pale by comparison with the massive civil court plundering of the masonic judges who use the information gathered from all of our private affairs and transactions backed up by them filming our every move turning us all into victims of masonic law.

A civil law that removes assets ,land ,property,business's but especially our children from NON masons into the masonic coffers and control using the most absurd distortions of Britains laws. Masons control social services that allow the theft of our children using flawed reports. Masons head the adoption system ,care homes and adopters ,all of them heavily subsidised using public moneys.Some masons are adopting 12 or more children to subsidise large properties they buy on the strength of the huge sums they get from the state.

This is masonic racketeering on a grand scale and information is the means by which they plunder us all.If you have not as yet been dragged through Britains civil or criminal courts you would be totally unaware that little of it provides proper due process.In many cases unrepresented litigants find they are made homeless and penniless by a judiciary that are part of this racket and that in fact no person should lose their home without a JURY deciding on that very serious of matters.Masonic judges having highjacked our legal system for their own financial agenda.

Families are being destroyed daily in the process, hidden from us by the control they exert over our media.A media who's owners and editors are part of their creepy network of control.Most of the harm and injustice created seldom finding its way into the pages of most of Britains press that has been covering up these horrors for way to long.Ask regular court watchers how often they see news reporters in civil courts?They are only there when invited by masonic judges who need the publicity in a case to fleece the selected victim.If a judge or lawyer was in court they usually close the courts to the public to cover up their crimes.If there is publicity it is because a particular judge or lawyer is not following the sinister masonic agenda that ensures the massive billion pound conspiracy continues.

Only the emergence of the internet has allowed the free flow of information that has shown the devious way this network of high level scams has operated using every arm of our law enforcement.Masonic police aid the evictions that led to the repossessions of billions of pounds of homes stolen under our noses by masonic criminals controlling our courts for their own ends.For anyone unfamiliar with the reality of how information is being gathered daily and will at some point be used against you in a court of law to strip you bare ,read the Proceeds of Crime Act .Supposedly brought in to remove assets from drug dealers and the like,when in fact ordinary members of the public that have been wrongly accused of fraud or a criminal matter can be tried before a jury and found not guilty.The masonic crown then raises a civil action before a civil court masonic judge and finds in favour of the crown allowing the freezing of and repossession of assets on the flimsiest of evidence.

Britain is living in a fascist state who's citizens are being terrorized ,harrassed and bullied by the bully boy masonic network that continues the massive in equality between the haves and have nots.We can say with certainty that the 90% of Britains wealth and properties that are own by 10% of the population is almost entirely due to MASONIC control and the majority of those in that 10% bracket have in some way created that wealth on the backs of the masonic structure. A structure that has the power and control to redistribute wealth into masonic hands using a myriad of legal and political scams that their high level brothers have infiltrated and operate to achieve the domination and oppression of those outwith their evil system.

Interesting CCTV developments (http://www.enjoy-surveillance.org/category/cctv/)

Rense.com (http://rense.com/general77/behidnd.htm)

[tinmenace]

Freemasonry Lingo
Source: FreeMason.org (PDF) (http://www.freemason.org/documents/Master%20Mason_large.pdf)


Partial List

Fiat - an authoritative decree, sanction, or order; a command or act of will that creates something.

Fraternal Intercourse - activities that promote fraternalism in constituent lodges or Masonic
youth orders and which are not prohibited by this code.

Hecatomb - 100 oxen or cattle (in ancient Greece a public sacrifice of 100 oxen to the gods in thanks for some great discovery, event, or victory).

Masonic Intercourse - any communication involving the esoteric or secret portion of the
Ritual.

Seraph - an order of angels; one of the 6-winged angels standing in the presence of God.








FIAT (http://m-w.com/dictionary/fiat)
Main Entry: fi·at
Pronunciation: 'fE-&t, -"at, -"ät; 'fI-&t, -"at
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, let it be done, 3d singular present subjunctive of fieri to become, be done -- more at BE
1 : a command or act of will that creates something without or as if without further effort
2 : an authoritative determination : DICTATE <a fiat of conscience>
3 : an authoritative or arbitrary order : DECREE <government by fiat>



Master Mason Degree (PDF) (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/pdf/mmdeg.pdf)

Fellow Craft Degree (PDF) (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/pdf/fcdeg.pdf)

The Entered Apprentice Degree (PDF) (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/pdf/eadeg.pdf)




Christians do not remain Masons

Because most Christians do not know about Freemasonry, some are led to join a Masonic Lodge. After they join and become active in Freemasonry, they begin to understand what is being taught in Masonic ritual. Christians who think about the meaning of the words in ritual end up leaving Freemasonry. Many go quietly, because of fear. Others are under so much spiritual bondage, as a result of being involved in the occultic religion of Freemasonry, that they remain somewhat dysfunctional as Christians. Spiritual healing can be instantaneous, or it can take years, depending on the individual and God's will. Be wary of any church leadership who are former Masons. Unless they are able to fully reveal the evil nature of Freemasonry, they may not be free of Masonic bondage. Former Masons should be examined carefully before they are allowed to take any teaching or leadership role in the church.

Men, who have left the Masonic Lodge after coming to understand what Masonic ritual teaches, have sometimes felt compelled to reveal the contents of Masonic ritual to the public. Many are reluctant to do so because of Masonic history. During the early 19th century, Capt. William Morgan worked with a printer named Miller to publish the rituals, as practiced in New York. The printers shop was set ablaze and Morgan was abducted and murdered. As his body was never recovered, there was no conviction for murder. However, several Masons were convicted of his abduction. Even through intimidation and persecution can be intense for those who reveal the "secrets" of Freemasonry, exposures of Masonic ritual have continued since 1727, ten years after the founding of the Grand Lodge of England. Exposures of Masonic ritual have continued for more than two centuries for several reasons. The most compelling reason is so that other men will not be ensnared in Freemasonry. Christians who become ensnared in Freemasonry sooner or later realize that Masonic ritual teaches a plan of salvation which is not based on faith in Jesus Christ, but rather on the basis of imitating Hiram Abiff, the (prototype) Masonic savior. Galatians 1:8-9 reveals that the penalty for teaching a false plan of salvation is eternal condemnation. Christians have no choice but to repent.


Source (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/)

[tinmenace]

During my search for famous Freemasons for this thread, a few names kept popping up, but since the Brotherhood is so secretive, a lot of Freemasons keep their membership secret. If it's such a noble thing, why keep your membership secret? Anyway, I was on Amazon.com: So You'd Like To... Sorry looking at a book that I'm thinking about reading called "Born in Blood - The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry"

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/BorninBlood1.jpg





And a few of the same names popped up a little further down the page...





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Newt Gingrich - Former Speaker of the House during the Clinton Administration, amongst other things,
(ie: Watchdog over the mind-controlled president (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5907493475522160313&q=freemason+mind+control&total=108&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0))
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Colin Powell - Retired military general and former Secretary of State, amongst other things
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/powellsuperstar.jpg


Al Gore - Vice President to Clinton, Global Warming Liar, amongst other things
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Some really evil people are Freemasons, especially the upper echelons.
The plebs at the bottom don't really know what's going on in Freemasonry

[tinmenace]

The ultimate sign of arrogance and bigotry.


XXXVII.
The word magnetism expresses the action and not the
nature of the great universal agent which serves as mediator
between thought and life. This agent is the infinite light, or,
seeing that the light is itself only phenomenal, it is rather the
light-bearer, the great Lucifer of Nature, the mediator between
matter and spirit, the first creature of God, but termed the
devil by impostors and the ignorant.

XXXVIII.

What is more absurd
the name of Lucifer to
The intellectual Lucifer
and more impious than to attribute
the devil, that is, to personified evil,
is the spirit of intelligence and love ;
it is the Paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical
Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism.


Source - The Master Mason, Book No. 4 (PDF) (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/pdf/gllink.pdf)



Here's my problem with the "ignorant" statement; Their rituals and information are a SECRET! They won't share the information with non-masons, and especially not women.

So, how dare you refuse to share knowledge, and then call us ignorant because of it?

What kind of twisted organization are the Freemasons? How self-righteous are these people that they can make a statement like that? It's because of THEIR refusal to share information, that the rest of us are kept in ignorance. But they have to rub everyone's noses in it. How utterly self-righteous.

If anyone knows more about their "Lucifer" and why Lucifer is so important, and what the significance is (Planet Venus and otherwise), please share the information so that the Freemasons can stop calling us plebs "ignorant".

[kromagg]

Are there any good, reliable links to Masonry? I remember looking them up many a year ago when I first learnt of their existence. Every site had something different to say about them; some saw them as the next coming, others saw them as the next anti-christs, so naturally I was left very confused on the matter...

And about Michael Richards... all I can say is, et tu Brutus?

[tinmenace]

I find their very own links and documents are the most telling. There are a few good ex-mason links that are interesting too.

You'll find tons on Google.

[father ted]

Are there any good, reliable links to Masonry? I remember looking them up many a year ago when I first learnt of their existence. Every site had something different to say about them; some saw them as the next coming, others saw them as the next anti-christs, so naturally I was left very confused on the matter...

And about Michael Richards... all I can say is, et tu Brutus?

They conduct guided tours through their lodge, if you live in a city you should be able to go to one. I went on one with a group of friends who are also into the conspiracy, and it was worth it. Maybe if you live in a town as well.

[tinmenace]

Masonic Temples - (They deny it's a religion, so why then have a temple and an altar?)

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Washington DC

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Dayton Ohio

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Detroit Michigan

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Ft. Worth Texas

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Lakewood Ohio

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/philadelphia.jpg
Philadelphia Pennsylvania

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/indianapolis.jpg
Indianapolis In-DIANA (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172&highlight=IN-DIANA)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/pittsburg.jpg
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

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San Francisco California

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Spokane Washington

[tinmenace]

There is even a law that was passed to say that Freemasons will be honored. WTF?? Why not healers, and care-givers, and artists, and musicians? Why did the USA government find it appropriate to pass a law that says Freemasons should be honored?


HOUSE RESOLUTION 33 - (No coincidence that it's number 33, I'm sure)

Recognizing the thousands of Freemasons in every State in the Nation and honoring them for their many contributions to the Nation throughout its history.

Whereas Freemasons, whose long lineage extends back to before the Nation's founding, have set an example of high moral standards and charity for all people;

Whereas the Founding Fathers of this great Nation and signers of the Constitution, most of whom were Freemasons, provided a well-rounded basis for developing themselves and others into valuable citizens of the United States;

Whereas members of the Masonic Fraternity, both individually and as an organization, continue to make invaluable charitable contributions of service to the United States;

Whereas the Masonic Fraternity continues to provide for the charitable relief and education of the citizens of the United States;

Whereas the Masonic Fraternity is deserving of formal recognition of their long history of care-giving for the citizenry and their example of high moral standards; and

Whereas Freemasons have always revered and celebrated St. John's Day, June 24th, as dedicated to their patron saints: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives recognizes the thousands of Freemasons in every State in the Nation and honors them for their many contributions to the Nation throughout its history.

GovTrack.US (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=hr110-33)


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/gillmorped.jpg

Congressman Paul Eugene Gillmor (and NATO PA Vice President)(a Freemason (http://www.scottishrite.org/ee.php?/scottishrite/internal/house_resolution_33/)) is the person that got this legislation passed. - His website at House.Gov (http://www.house.gov/gillmor/)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/gillmorbush.jpg
Seen here shaking hands with George W. Bush

[tinmenace]

King C. Gillette - Freemason
- American inventor and manufacturer who developed
the safety razor and founded the Gillette Safety Razor Co. - MasonicInfo.com (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)



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These are some images from the Gillette Venus razors website (http://www.gillettevenus.com/us/):

Notice the 3 in the letter V. Also, it's not mistake that these razors are named after the goddess Venus.
Notice the word "divine" for this particular style.

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Notice the wavy lines and the doves (Venus Columba? - Columba is Latin for Dove)

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One of Gillette's early razors was called the ATRA.
Interestingly, Atra-Hasis is a Babylonian Flood story with references to the Sumerian gods Enki and Enlil.
The very aliens that genetically engineered mankind in their own image.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atra-Hasis)

[lottie]

i knew that advert had something about it- the name Venus made my ears prick up- thanks Tin- i see it now!! what the hell a razor has to do with a planet- i'll never know...but just makes it more obvious- they arnt even being subtle about it anymore!! :D

[tinmenace]

i knew that advert had something about it- the name Venus made my ears prick up- thanks Tin- i see it now!! what the hell a razor has to do with a planet- i'll never know...but just makes it more obvious- they arnt even being subtle about it anymore!! :D

Hi Lottie,

I'm seeing this as the goddess Venus (aka Ishtar - same goddess depicted as the Statue of Liberty which was given to the USA by French Freemasons). That's why there is the "goddess" language in their ads, and I think the flying doves also...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/venus.jpg

I wouldn't be surprised if there are subliminals to be found in the ads...

[tinmenace]

What is the meaning of the inverted pentagram in Freemason symbolism?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/masonicsign.jpg
Why do they have TEMPLES, and yet claim not to be a religion?




WHY are women not allowed into true Freemasonry?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/pentagraminverted.jpg
Eastern Star



Who/What is Lucifer to Freemasons?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/lucifer.jpg
Artist unknown

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/venusstar.jpg
Venus


What's up with the ridiculous aprons?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/freemasoncock.jpg

[julieray]

From my own research and reading into the Annunaki and Enki and Enlil, I understand that Enki was the one who gave us the benefit of reproducing ourselve whilst Enlil was the one who wanted to kill and wipe us out. It may be common knowledge but I didn't know this, but, Enlil (the horrible one) has been the one worshipped throughout history in every christian led religious organisation, and I think I am correct in assuming that this is the same for all religions too. They all worship the alien scientist Enlil, whilst they have portrayed Enki (the good one) as being the Devil, when in fact that is not the case. Furthermore, whilst people do worship the Devil and conduct various satanic rituals, etc. they too are worshipping Enlil surprisingly!! So whichever way to view this scenario we have been shafted good and proper. Poor Enki has been either overlooked or portrayed as the devil when this simply is not the case. In churches it is not Mary and Jesus as we all think, it is Semiramis and Horus. I don't know what those at the top believe, or worship, but they will be more informed than us I would suggest.

[tinmenace]

Partials from the "Ordo Ab Chao & 33rd degree symbol" (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6893) thread by Eternal_Spirit

Satanic doctrine teaches that, ultimately, the New World Order can be established in society only after a time of planned, great world turbulence and chaotic disorder. It is this very concept- "order out of chaos"- which is at the foundation of all Masonic doctrine. Significantly, Masonic initiates elevated to the 33 degree are given a "jewel" to wear proudly. This jewel is decorated with the sign of three, interlocked triangles, representing both the unholy trinity and the number 666. The jewel is also inscribed with the Latin inscription "Ordo Ab Chao," interpreted as "Order Out of Chaos." Circle Of Intrigue, Texe Marrs (http://www.texemarrs.com/) Page 94
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/ordo.jpg
Here is the 33rd Degree Masonic Symbol
The higher-level initiates are well aware that in the working of The Plan (for a New World Order), death and bloodshed- unparalleled chaos are prescribed. John Randolph Price, president of the Planetary Commission and organizer each year of a massive and worldwide "Instant of Cooperation" event, has proclaimed that the "Divine Plan" requires chaos to cleanse and purge the world before a bright, new era can emerge : Circle Of Intrigue, Texe Marrs (http://www.texemarrs.com/) Page 100

"This New Age will be. A new heaven on Earth will be. Preparations are being made now, and out of chaos will come the beginning of peace on earth, a New Order for Mankind." John Randolph Price, The Superbeings Page 1 (Texas: Quartus Books, 1981)
In the above quote, Price cites certain spirit entities from beyond as revealing to him a coming New Age Kingdom on Earth - a New Age to be led by highly evolved and "illuminated" superbeings. This any Christian can discern as fallen angels turned into evil spirits doing the will of their master Lucifer to establish a New World Order with the Antichrist as its leader. Bible prophecy states that the Antichrist will come into power ushering a age of peace, in specific a seven year peace treaty. There can be no peace unless there is a war. This peace treaty he declares and signs will place him in high regard globally and will set the stage for him to become the world leader.

Illuminati symbology could also be seen as the Israeli Prime Minister and the American President George Bush spoke. The symbolism in Israel was the satanic six pointed hexagram which they call the 'Star of David' but has its origins in Babylon and witchcraft and is used in Freemasonry. Also when Bush made a statement there was four inverted stars or pentagrams behind him which is a chief symbol in Satanism and Freemasonry and is inbuilt into the street layout of Washington D.C. (http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/mason.htm) where the pentagrams lowest point ends at the white house. Bush is a member of the Illuminati 'Skull and Bones' society, a secretive and subversive organization which initiates have to lie down in a coffin.

His father is also a member of this satanic cult and also according to a strong source is a 33rd degree Freemason. Like his father will Bush go to war in retribution?

This means thousands more innocent causalities including women and children. Is their innocent blood to be spilt in order to reach chief suspect Osama Bin Laden who won't be personally affected? He is a coward who is in hiding. Will starting a war that won't personally harm him be worthwhile?

I believe justice needs to be delivered but not at the expense of more innocent lives. Two wrongs never make a right. The terrorists must be hunted down not an entire nation bombed. George Bush Sr had other motives behind the Gulf War. One of them was protecting his Oil interests as he and his father are Oil barons. More research in this area will uncover a lot of facts on this issue.



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Revealing video by Texe Marrs unmasks secret society that controls Israel and the World
"On May 3, 1996 in Israel, Tel Aviv police raided an apartment, joined by reporters from a TV news program and the daily newspaper Davar Rishon. They found a bizarre scene. The walls were covered in Latin script, skulls and bones graced the shelves, swords were crossed and mounted behind an altar. Five doors led to secret passageways with red blinking intruder warning lights." "The news reports the next day announced, 'The apartments were used for ceremonies by the Freemasons, an organization whose membership boasts cabinet ministers and high ranking army officers.'" (Inside Israel, August 1996 edition, pages 4-6)



http://www.texemarrs.com/images/lodge_over_jerusalem_title.gif


Revealing video by Texe Marrs unmasks secret society that controls Israel and the World

http://www.texemarrs.com/images/star_mason_symbols.gifNow, finally, the lid is blown off the forbidden secret powder keg of the Masons of Israel! In this exclusive video report, Texe Marrs presents shocking evidence never before revealed.

Most astonishing is the mind-boggling conclusion that to expose the dark inner sanctum of the Masonic Lodge over Jerusalem is literally to bring to light the seamy underbelly of the plan of the beast of prophecy. Here is Mystery Babylon is all its decadent vainglory!
The elite masters of the Masonic Order now control the White House and the leadership councils of the European Community. Their goal is to establish dictatorial Illuministic Communism and to enslave all of mankind under the thumb of a Jewish master race led by a world messiah who is to rule from Jerusalem.

Their methods are Jewish witchcraft and illuministic cabalism, brought to the peak of demonic perfection via the art of Masonic magic and ritual. As one of their own insiders, Rabbi Stephen Wise, has stated: "Masonry is a Jewish institution whose history, degrees, charges, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."

In this video, you'll see pictured the ad run by the Grand Lodge of Israel in The Jerusalem Post newspaper congratulating President Bill Clinton and a prominent world Moslem leader as brother "Masons of Peace." You'll see documentation that Soviet monsters Lenin and Trotsky were Jewish Masons and were led by Zionist overlords.
You'll also see photos and film of high-level Israeli and American politicians and corporate chiefs exchanging cryptic Masonic handshakes and signs.

You'll discover how the leaders of the Masonic Lodges in Israel privately control U.S. politics and the global economy through puppet organizations such as the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission.

You will marvel at the Masonic ceremony extravaganza planned by a Jewish Mason that occurred at the Great Pyramid in Egypt, and you'll see exposure of the dangerous ADL as a Masonic front group. And there's much, much more...
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[chandrakavi]

I had heard that about THE ORDER OF CHAOS, glad you put it so clearly here, thanks A GREAT POST
Hi tinmenace! great that you help place things clearly in quotes also.
I didn't miss it thanks to you!


INFINITE LOVE

[celtic isis]

Partials from the "Ordo Ab Chao & 33rd degree symbol" (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6893) thread by Eternal_Spirit

oh yes, it was always the masons plans to take over the world and revenge the death of their hero hiram abif...

Look i'm aware all this is going on, i haven't seen any of this referred to in regards to the grand orient, or french freemasonry...so i'm confused.

Just trying to put the pieces together...you might want to check out the name CW Leadbeater in your quest.


Charles Webster Leadbeater - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


FREEMASONTASTIC :p:rolleyes:

[chandrakavi]

Thanks for the link Celtic Isis!
:):D

[eternal_spirit]

oh yes, it was always the masons plans to take over the world and revenge the death of their hero hiram abif...

Look i'm aware all this is going on, i haven't seen any of this referred to in regards to the grand orient, or french freemasonry...so i'm confused.

Just trying to put the pieces together...you might want to check out the name CW Leadbeater in your quest.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Webster_Leadbeater


FREEMASONTASTIC :p:rolleyes:
..............................

It's a World Wide orgonisation which you probably realise already. Regardless of what race or religion a person is they are allowed to be a Freemason.
To control all sides is the name of the game. Ordo Templi Orientis ( OTO ) thers a clue.

[celtic isis]

What is the meaning of the inverted pentagram in Freemason symbolism?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/masonicsign.jpg
Why do they have TEMPLES, and yet claim not to be a religion?




WHY are women not allowed into true Freemasonry?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/pentagraminverted.jpg
Eastern Star



Who/What is Lucifer to Freemasons?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/lucifer.jpg
Artist unknown

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/venusstar.jpg
Venus


What's up with the ridiculous aprons?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/freemasoncock.jpg



Jeez tin, fair play to you for your endless research but like it's hardly balanced is it? It's all one sided. Even icke says himself it's not JUST the freemasons who are running the world, it's a combo of all in the select insider club propelling us into the NWO.

What does seemingly blaming freemasons for everything achieve? I may be involved with a beautiful human being who happens to be a freemason but like who is not actively involved in it as in it does not rule his life or his views, who joined at a time of feeling lost and wants to continue to pursue the gnostic study of knowledge through his lodge, what's so bad in that?


I must say i've never come across inverted pentagrams in all the freemasonic stuff i trawled through when i first found out about the whole agenda, am i looking in the wrong places or what? And i trawled through loads.


Where are you getting this stuff from? It's a genuine interested question.

FWI, the aprons are traditional dress the stone masons used to wear to protect themselves, namely their crown masonic jewels from getting hacked off by flying chips of stone...It's a nod to the tradition, a respect for their founders...I do agree though they do look silly.

Freemasonry is definitely not a religon, just cause they have temples or lodges doesn't equate religon, it does equate grandeur but in freemasonry you leave your religon at the door, and come a "freeman", unprejudiced by religious beliefs or preconcieved judgements etc against others.


The lodge i'm "familiar" with, encourage women to participate and have female masons coming regularly, in my view the fact that the female role or involvement is dumbed down says even more...that they are as actively involved or even more so than male freemasons.


Lucifer doesn't exist. FULL STOP.

Not in the sense we think at least...this is the exoteric term "Lucifer".

I feel sad that i tried to give a different viewpoint on here and i was abused for it. I'm definitely not FOR freemasons, i am trying to find out what's really going on from a balanced viewpoint, not even influenced by the person i love who is one, of course there is a network, it's plain obviuos an dit's been around for centuries...just there are some members working for good.

[nickatnoon61]

It wouldn't surprise me.

What I do know for sure is that he's not to be trusted. He has such a cold look in his eyes.
Yes Tin, that is the method I use, to find the "baddies"! The eyes ARE the window to the soul! IF U HAVE ONE!!!! :eek:If one has light in his/her being, it will reflect thru the eyes. Ala,the old song...."when Irish eyes are smilin' " My little niece at 5 yrs. has very beautiful, expressive, blue eyes! When I saw your pic on the photo thread, of just your eyes, I thought of my niece immediately! You will find/see that most of the "top" celebrities,loomies,etc. have evil,dark,or vacuum,NON-REFLECTIVE type eyes, even when they are smiling or laffing, the eyes do not change!IT IS BECAUSE THEY HOLD NO LOVE/LIGHT, in their beings! Most Hollywood Jews have that same look.:eek:

[tinmenace]

Jeez tin, fair play to you for your endless research but like it's hardly balanced is it? It's all one sided. Even icke says himself it's not JUST the freemasons who are running the world, it's a combo of all in the select insider club propelling us into the NWO.

Then I suggest you start your own thread about the other organizations that make up the "combo". This thread is about Freemasons. We've been over this before - See page 5 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4934&page=5) if you need to refresh your memory.

What does seemingly blaming freemasons for everything achieve? I may be involved with a beautiful human being who happens to be a freemason but like who is not actively involved in it as in it does not rule his life or his views, who joined at a time of feeling lost and wants to continue to pursue the gnostic study of knowledge through his lodge, what's so bad in that?

Gnostic study of knowledge that is denied to non-masons, especially women. As a woman, I take offense to that. If you don't, that's your business.

I must say i've never come across inverted pentagrams in all the freemasonic stuff i trawled through when i first found out about the whole agenda, am i looking in the wrong places or what? And i trawled through loads.

Do you see the inverted Pentagram below?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/masonicsign.jpg


Where are you getting this stuff from? It's a genuine interested question.

http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif

FWI, the aprons are traditional dress the stone masons used to wear to protect themselves, namely their crown masonic jewels from getting hacked off by flying chips of stone...It's a nod to the tradition, a respect for their founders...I do agree though they do look silly.

Crown masonic jewels? What's that?

Freemasonry is definitely not a religon...

Albert Pike doesn't seem to agree with you:
"Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion...Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it... The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason… every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself."
Source - Morals and Dogma (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html)




...just cause they have temples or lodges doesn't equate religon

Why then have a TEMPLE and an ALTAR? Why not just call them lodges?

...it does equate grandeur but in freemasonry you leave your religon at the door, and come a "freeman", unprejudiced by religious beliefs or preconcieved judgements etc against others.

Whatever you want to believe is fine. I don't see why you care so much about what I believe.


The lodge i'm "familiar" with, encourage women to participate and have female masons coming regularly, in my view the fact that the female role or involvement is dumbed down says even more...that they are as actively involved or even more so than male freemasons.

That's nice, hun. Enjoy yourself.


Lucifer doesn't exist. FULL STOP.

Albert Pike disagrees with you:
"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god... Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light...Doubt it not!"
Source - Morals and Dogma (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html)


The word magnetism expresses the action and not the
nature of the great universal agent which serves as mediator
between thought and life. This agent is the infinite light, or,
seeing that the light is itself only phenomenal, it is rather the
light-bearer, the great Lucifer of Nature, the mediator between
matter and spirit, the first creature of God, but termed the
devil by impostors and the ignorant.
Source - The Master Mason, Book No. 4 (PDF) (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/pdf/gllink.pdf)

Not in the sense we think at least...this is the exoteric term "Lucifer".

Would you mind elaborating please?

I feel sad that i tried to give a different viewpoint on here and i was abused for it.

You should have stopped after you gave your viewpoint, but you didn't. You kept at it, almost insisting that I was mistaken about my viewpoint. And you're still at it, weeks and weeks later. Don't you get it? I don't care that you are closely involved with a Freemason, and you shouldn't care that I don't care. You shouldn't care that I think Freemasons are cocks and that they enslave people's consciousness. I'm a perfect stranger to you, why do you care so much about what I think? What do you want from me Celtic Isis? If it's for me to embrace Freemsonry, it's not going to happen. Can you accept that?

I'm definitely not FOR freemasons...

Yeah, I can really tell...:rolleyes:

...i am trying to find out what's really going on from a balanced viewpoint...

Balanced? If you were being balanced, you'd wonder why TRUE Freemasonry doesn't think women are worthy of their secrets. Balance means equally respecting both the female and the male energy. Do you understand this concept?

...not even influenced by the person i love who is one...

I highly doubt it. You're far too emotional about this. Weeks and weeks after I began to ignore you, you're STILL on about this. This is completely emotional for you. It's obvious.


of course there is a network, it's plain obviuos an dit's been around for centuries...just there are some members working for good.

Yes, and like I said earlier in this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4934&page=4), I'm sure many lower ranking Freemasons are good people, and that they believe they're involved with something noble. I'm not disagreeing with that, but that's not the point, is it?

Albert Pike also says that the lower ranking Freemasons are intentionally misled:
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."
Source - Morals and Dogma (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html)


Ok, you're on your path, and I'm on mine. So, what's the big deal?



I've decided to address your post, in the hopes that you will address my questions or comments in mature fashion. If you decline to address it at all, I'll accept that you've decided to continue down your path, and that you'll allow me to continue down mine. If, however, you decide to sidestep any of it, I'll just go back to ignoring you.

[mentalogirl]

I think that by "Crown Masonic Jewels" CI means her boyfriend's 'meat and two veg':D:D:D

Very good thread and amazing info:)

I have,in the past,been involved with Rosicrucians,Gurdjeff and Ouspensky - I even became curious about Freemasonry(before realizing it was not available to women).When I say involved,I mean interested by the knowledge of truth,and I nearly joined both,at different times in my life.What stopped me was something in my heart telling me I shouldn't.Maybe call it higher consciousness I guess?

My point is,perhaps CI will know better than to associate herself with an organization that has alarm bells ringing on some level,even for her.But,to be honest,I would not blindly trust that someone I love would be as aware of this as I am.
Is your boyfriend aware of all this information CI?

[tinmenace]

Glad you're enjoying the thread :)

[julieray]

My view is that ultimately it is just another way of controlling the masses and minipulation of the public to carry out their agenda at the top. I do feel that those on the bottom have been brainwashed into believing that they really must keep the SECRET because the world is not ready. Trouble is, for those at the top, the world will never be ready....it is that simple! As for who is good....who is bad, I very much think that they make it confusing so that we don't get to the truth. At the end of the day, they may know the SECRET that is not supposed to be secret, it is knowledge that was meant to be shared as a tool to work with in our lives, but the greedy, selfish bastards decided that they would keep us all in the dark.

I am not going to spend my time worrying about it, I am going to make it my life's mission to know the truth. There is only one FIRST SOURCE (God) all the others are the same as us but different levels of existences and intelligence. I am only going to worship the one God, and it is not Horus, Lucifer, Enlil or Enki, though I have to say I do have a lot of time for Enki (who was the one who helped us in the first place - yet he was only a scientist and not a God).

The Illuminati obviously think that we are all a bunch of idiots, but little do they know that we are onto them. We are spirit and will return home with or without their so called knowledge, though I cannot say the same for them...not for many lifetimes at least anyway!!!!

[julieray]

Sorry I mean't to add that surely, anyone with an ounce of sense about them would realise that anyone who can rape, murder/sacrifice children/humans or any living creature, can sit back and watch wars unfold unnecessarily and be completely happy about it, is not someone who I want to associate with and if there was a society who had secrets about the so called truth.....I would certainly question their agenda....because if I really knew the truth, I would want to share it with everyone so that we could all live in a happy and peaceful world....how anyone could not sincerely want that for the world are seriously disturbed.

[lydia78]

Posted this in the wrong thread before, probably still in the wrong thread, but hey ho.

The are FEMALE FREEMASONS after all!! weirdly today I remembered my step-father telling me about it, obviously not in deepth but he carried the old line about them supporting charities etc.

Found this though, the HFAF, Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons.

Only beginning to read about them, does anyone else know anything about the female counterpart freemasons?

Here's an interesting link link;

http://www.hfaf.org/

[tinmenace]

Posted this in the wrong thread before, probably still in the wrong thread, but hey ho.

The are FEMALE FREEMASONS after all!! weirdly today I remembered my step-father telling me about it, obviously not in deepth but he carried the old line about them supporting charities etc.

Found this though, the HFAF, Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons.

Only beginning to read about them, does anyone else know anything about the female counterpart freemasons?

Here's an interesting link link;

http://www.hfaf.org/




Not according to the 25 Landmarks of Freemasonry (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76288&postcount=151)

So, whatever organization they've set up for women is not TRUE Freemasonry. Their own laws prohibit it.

I'm not making it up. Read their literature.

[tinmenace]

Some Freemason humor! :D

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/oto.cartoon0106.gif

[tinmenace]

Oh no, not Bucky too! :eek:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/get_fuzzy.gif

[tinmenace]

:D

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/amin55l.jpg

[tinmenace]

Freemasonry in comic strips

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/chick.jpg..http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/hellblazer.jpg



http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/league.jpg..http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/super_architect.gif

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/parking_lot.jpg

[lydia78]

Hi There,

I agree they may not be n the same 'level' of intiation as the male counterpart but take a look at this, (I lamely copied thier FAQ page) seems they're requirements are the profession of belief in a supreme being, which is interesting, which one i wonder..?


heres the link to the site, http://www.hfaf.org/index.html

FAQ page.

Who and what is HFAF?
The HFAF is a fraternity for women and organised by women. It was founded in 1913 and membership is open to women of any race or religion, who are able to profess a belief in a Supreme Being. Freemasonry is one of the world’s oldest secular fraternal societies. It is concerned with moral and spiritual values. Its members are taught its precepts by a series of ceremonies. Our Order has many Lodges throughout England and the Isle of Man, stretching from as far north as Carlisle and south to Brighton and Bournemouth and westwards in the Cotswolds. We also now have a Lodge in Gibraltar and two in Spain


1. What exactly is HFAF ?
* HFAF stands for the Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons
* A masonic fraternity of women in the UK, organised by women for women.

2. Are there HFAF Lodges outside the UK?
* At the moment we have one Lodge in Gibraltar and two Lodges in Spain; one in the Calahonda area and another Lodge in the Costa Blanca area.

3. Enquiring from the USA?
* Although we cant help you directly, we can put you in touch with a women's masonic organisation in the USA
* AWF

4. Membership requirements
* You must be able to profess a belief in a Supreme Being
* You must be a woman, aged 21 or over and resident in the UK
* How to apply to join

5. What's the difference between HFAF and Co-Masonry ?
* HFAF is purely for women, and as the name suggests Co-Masonry exists for both men and women.
* If you would like further information on International Co-Masonry then visit their website

-*There is also the newly founded Grand Lodge of Freemasonry for Men and Women , visit their website

6. Can members of other masonic Orders or Fraternities visit an HFAF Lodge?
* No, that is not allowed, as there exists no recognition between the various Orders. But informal contact is always possible.

7. What does UGLE think of Women's Freemasonry?
* UGLE issued a newsletter in March 1999, in which they stated that whilst they could not "recognise" us, they nevertheless considered us to be regular in our practices. Statement by UGLE
* There is a lot of contact between UGLE and HFAF on matters of mutual concern.

8. Forms of Address
* We address each other as Brother as we are member of a Fraternity, which is part of a Universal Brotherhood and the ritual we use in our ceremonies is taken from the men's ritual and mostly uses the masculine form of address . A decision was taken back in the early days not to change it, and now we would find it strange to use the feminine from of address.


9. Charity
* We believe in giving to charity as part of our masonic teachings
* Through our registered charity we currently support charities for the relief of cancer sufferers, particularly women and children. for further details see our Charity page

10. How can I tell if Freemasonry is for me?
* No-one can say for sure until they join, but the same is true of any club or organisation which you may join.

* Check out some of the Masonic websites on our Links page

* If you know anyone who is a Freemason, talk to them about what it has meant to them.

* There are literally hundreds of thousands of Freemasons all over the world, who have found that Freemasonry is indeed for them.

Innocent fun then?

BTW cartoons were cool!!




This website has been created and maintained by Bro Chris Chapman, Grand Inspector General

[tinmenace]

Thanks nice, hun. Thanks for the info. :)

[tinmenace]

From another thread. I just found it very interesting. Thanks for the info Lydia.

Hi

With regards to healing and payment I totally agree on it being a 'free service'....unlike so many I have met during my travels who crow about being a healer and yet have so much healing to do on themselves...

As a tarot reader and medium, I have never charged money to help someone out, it never 'sat' right with me, though I understand some people make it their full time job and earn off it, personally I couldn't do it.

As for the masons..the solider ants are incredibly greedy, my old man and his friends were positvily frenzied when it came to power and money.....another interesting thing was during 'Ladies night', wherein masons bring along their wives, my mum couldn't believe it when virtually every single mason wife seemed to have ME,MS,Cancer,terminal illnesses etc.....she also got to look around the grand lodge and saw the goddess symbolism everywhere, noticable Hecate (the triple headed goddess, or crone who is also the symbol of the three phases of womanhood,virgin, empress and crone which is also associated with the phases of the moon.) All male society who are notorous for not allowing women into their 'club' worship goddess energy!?! mmmmmm, wonder if their using the negative femimine energy for their deeds (sucubus, lilth) hence maybe why their wives where so ill? any ideas anyone?

[lydia78]

Hi Tin,

Thank you for taking an interest!!:)

I'm only really beginning to really look into this side of the masons, the info I have is directly from experience which I realise may not be the 'done' method here, I have no real proof (well not anymore, we did have a dicatphone with him practicing the intiation of puttng someone through the chair), but I did manage to get hold of the masonic (bible) and his hammer, along with some other memorablia, I'm about to buy a scanner and when I do I will post the book pages on here, however I appreciate this info may already be available elsewhere? Nevertheless, I will post anyway!!

Thanks again:)

[tinmenace]

Brilliant! I look forward to it. :)

[julieray]

Tinmenace, from your vast research, have you found that certain lodges are more corrupt than others??

From my very limited reading, the Knights of Malta are completely horrendous. Mind you with those underground bases on the doorstep - it makes you wonder if indeed, they are even human beings at all??

There are so many variations of the same thing and called the same thing or hiding behind the same veil. Do you think that there may be some genuinely good people naively working without even realising what they are contributing towards, or indeed doing very good work genuinely???

I do however completely agree that those at the top are rotten to the core. Knowing the truth and believing that we should not know - unless of course they have spent many a year being completely brainwashed??? Will we ever know??

[lydia78]

Hi all, found the female freemasons family album, any thoughts about what these clones are up to? Whatever it is, they ain't looking to happy!!:)


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/femalefreemasons.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/Picture_001_2.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/ELIZABETHBOSWELL-REID.jpg
Elizabeth Boswell-Reid

The first Grand Master 1913 - 1933

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/GRANDM1.jpg
Seton Challen

Daughter of Elizabeth Boswell-Reid and our second Grand Master 1934 - 1969

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/evelyne.jpg
Evelyne Barclay

Grand Master from 1986 - 1994

[eternal_spirit]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/evelyne.jpg

Barclays Bank :confused:

[eternal_spirit]

Interesting, but I don't recognise any of these womens names.

[lydia78]

I know, I came to the same conclusion with the barcley name, but nothing came up. Still looking at it.

Funny how female grandmasters are still called 'Brother'......not totally equal then obviously!!

http://www.hfaf.org/news.htm

[lydia78]

Found this freemason blog today, was written a year or so ago but it hints at the acceleration of pushing masons quicky uo the ladder so to speak.....check it out.


The FMT Blog

Sunday, October 29, 2006
Time is of the Essence
It is sad enough I think, when you have to recycle Past Masters on the ladder. But when you can't even twist enough of their arms that you have to leave some minor offices unfilled, it is too sad for words. That's the situation we were in last week in my Royal Arch Chapter when the newly-installed Zerubabble was unable to appoint two assistant Sojourners. I guess we shouldn't be too down-hearted, we do have two and possibly three candidates for Exaltation this year, so we do at least have a future. It is a fact that many Lodges and Chapters have to recycle Past Masters or Past Principals, but they are not always eager to take on the burden and we must surely risk turning them off attending.

So how do we get into this position in the first place? I was talking with one Companion and he said he wasn't joining any other side orders until he had been through the Chair of his Mother Lodge. He said he was just not ready for the extra commitment. And I know what he means. As soon as you join anything in Masonry, you are rushed onto the ladder. They need to rush you on because they need to fill all the offices. Our brighter masons soon realise what goes on, so they avoid joining other lodges or orders. I must be less bright, I keep joining and I keep being put on ladders and in truth I'm too busy for my own good.

We mislead potential Initiates like that as well. We tell them a lodge meets once a month for maybe six or eight months of the year. "That's not bad," they think to themselves. Then they join and find themselves shoved onto a ladder, attending rehearsals and Lodges of Instruction, and spending hours each week memorising what to them must be impenetrable and arcane rituals. And if they find themselves joining other Orders, the same thing happens. This would never have happened years ago. Years ago, we had so many masons and candidates that everyone had to wait years for an opportunity they were ready and waiting for when it came along.

We should back-off. Don't even get me started on the subject of banging candidates through the three Degrees in successive months, we should allow a new brother or a new Companion two or three years to get used to the institution they have just joined before gently encouraging them to take their first office. If we promise them that, I'm sure we would get many more brethren to take an interest in the Holy Royal Arch or any of the other very worthy Orders in Masonry. Until then, we all miss out.



Awwwwwwwwww, poor lil' them!!:rolleyes:

http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/blog/2006_10_01_archive.php

[tinmenace]

Hi all, found the female freemasons family album, any thoughts about what these clones are up to? Whatever it is, they ain't looking to happy!!:)


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/femalefreemasons.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/Picture_001_2.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/ELIZABETHBOSWELL-REID.jpg
Elizabeth Boswell-Reid

The first Grand Master 1913 - 1933

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/GRANDM1.jpg
Seton Challen

Daughter of Elizabeth Boswell-Reid and our second Grand Master 1934 - 1969

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/OMelikaO/evelyne.jpg
Evelyne Barclay

Grand Master from 1986 - 1994


Daughter of Elizabeth Boswell-Reid and our second Grand Master 1934 - 1969

I'm sorry if I've forgotten, or missed it, but which lodge is this?

Very interesting stuff! Thanks for taking the time to post! :)

[lydia78]

Hi there:)

The lodge is, 68 Great Cumberland Place - their former HQ in Marble Arch, West London.

They have bought a new HQ, here's what they had to say;

HFAF - The Search for new HQ

Our search for a new Headquarters was successful and we have now purchased a building in NW London. The building is already in use for meetings and on 20th November 2005, the building was officially opened by the well known actor Robert Powell and his wife Babs, and the mayor of Barnet and on behalf of our Charity received a cheque for £150,000 representing the amount which HFAF has raised for charity in the last ten years.


http://www.hfaf.org/Official%20Opening.htm


Check out the pics!!

[eternal_spirit]

Hi there:)

The lodge is, 68 Great Cumberland Place - their former HQ in Marble Arch, West London.

They have bought a new HQ, here's what they had to say;

HFAF - The Search for new HQ

Our search for a new Headquarters was successful and we have now purchased a building in NW London. The building is already in use for meetings and on 20th November 2005, the building was officially opened by the well known actor Robert Powell and his wife Babs, and the mayor of Barnet and on behalf of our Charity received a cheque for £150,000 representing the amount which HFAF has raised for charity in the last ten years.


http://www.hfaf.org/Official%20Opening.htm


Check out the pics!!
http://www.hfaf.org/images/IMG_0018%20-%20EVERYONE%20INSIDE.jpg

[phoenix1]

These are also a female branch of freemasonry (ffsake recriuting from the age of 11 to 20) so They start the Indoctrination of children real early the sick bastards) This is the Reverand William SEXon
http://www.visaliarainbowrocks.org/images/wmarksexson.gif

The International Order of the Rainbow for Girls was founded in 1922, by William Mark Sexson, a Christian minister and active member of the Masonic Lodge. The Rev. Sexson had spent his life dedicated to both fraternal organizations, and his ministry, and became aware of the need for a youth organization for young women who were from a Masonic or Eastern Star home.

Rainbow is open to girls between the ages of 11 and 20,

This is Ther Page

http://www.iorg.org/
http://www.freemasoninformation.com/BodiesofFM/rainbow.htm

After bieng here they join this ALUMNI at 20 years and above

http://www.iorg.org/alumni.htm

Laughing in Your FacePhoenix ( for the masonic halfwits in here )

[melika]

Hi im new here, interesting stuff there, but pheonix what did you mean by this?

Laughing in Your FacePhoenix ( for the masonic halfwits in here )[/QUOTE]



Do you mean the people who have given information or the masons them selves?
thanks

[eternal_spirit]

WHAT ROYAL ARCH MASONRY IS

Founded in 1797, in Boston, Massachusetts, as a national organization, the General Grand Chapter, Royal Arch Masons, International now has jurisdiction over half the 7,000 Chapters in the world, including several provinces in Canada, the Grand Chapters of USA, Philippines, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and many chapters in Central and South America. Upon your exaltation as a Royal Arch Mason you will become a member of the oldest and largest rite of Royal Arch Masonry.

WHO ROYAL ARCH MASONS ARE
One of the most fascinating aspects of Royal Arch Masonry has always been how so many men, from so many different walks of life, can meet together in peace, never have any political or religious debates, always conduct their affairs in harmony and friendship, and call each other brother.

No Rite of Freemasonry covers the world so much as does Royal Arch Masonry. In every country of the earth, on every continent and on many isles of the sea, Will be found Royal Arch Chapters, eager and willing to receive their companions from other parts of the world into that full fellowship that characterizes Royal Arch Masonry.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.mastermason.com/hagerstownmasonictemple/images/RAARKBL.gif

The Royal Arch Degree is the climax of Ancient Craft Masonry and Masonic Symbolism. It is described as "the root and marrow of Freemasonry." It is the complete story of Jewish History during some of its darkest hours. Jerusalem and the Holy temple are destroyed, The people are being held captive as slaves in Babylon. Here you will join with some slaves as they are set free to return home and engage in the noble and glorious work of rebuilding the city and the Temple of God. It is during this rebuilding that they make a discovery that brings to light the greatest treasure of a Mason --the long lost Master's Word.
Many historians have traced the earliest origins of the Royal Arch Degree to Ireland, late in the 17th century and in England in 1738, In 1752, ambulatory or military warrants for Lodges were introduced. This was instrumental in placing the Royal Arch Degree on a par with the Master Mason Degree.
Military lodges were greatly responsible for planting Freemasonry in the Colonies and also gave birth to the use of the Marl and Royal Arch degrees in the "New World." Lodge records show that the Royal Arch Degree was conferred at Fredericksburg No. 4 on December 12, 1753. George Washington was raised in this lodge a few months prior to this date.
The value of Royal Arch Masonry will be appreciated by all who are exalted to that most sublime degree, particularly by those who are seeking to complete their Masonic education. It reveals the full light of Ancient Craft Masonry, presents it as a complete system in accordance with the original plan and justly entitles you to claim the noble name of Master Mason.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.mfnb.org/images/Grand%20Chapter%20Officers%202005%2006/tgpplane.jpg


2nd Grand Principal
Right Ex. Companion
Harold Planetta
http://www.mfnb.org/images/Grand%20Chapter%20Officers%202005%2006/tgpwride.jpg

1st Grand Principal
Most Ex. Companion
Wayne A. Rideout

3rd Grand PrincipNo pic for ths one al
Right Ex. Companion
Donald Jenkins

[eternal_spirit]

What is Royal Arch Masonry
It is the first step in York Rite Masonry. Here within the Chapter you will receive the necessary instruction and information to fill in some of the missing pieces from the Masonic history taught in the Masonic Lodge. The Chapter is referred as Capitular Masonry, providing a member the opportunity for further advancement within the brotherhood.
Every Chapter within the Province of New Brunswick falls under the jurisdiction of the Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of New Brunswick.
To become a member of a Chapter, you must first be a Mason, and then you may apply for an application. Once accepted you will receive three Degrees: Mark Master Mason, Most Excellent Master, and Royal Arch Mason.
http://www.mfnb.org/ram%20grand%20home%20page.htm

[father ted]

These are also a female branch of freemasonry (ffsake recriuting from the age of 11 to 20) so They start the Indoctrination of children real early the sick bastards) This is the Reverand William SEXon
http://www.visaliarainbowrocks.org/images/wmarksexson.gif

The International Order of the Rainbow for Girls was founded in 1922, by William Mark Sexson, a Christian minister and active member of the Masonic Lodge. The Rev. Sexson had spent his life dedicated to both fraternal organizations, and his ministry, and became aware of the need for a youth organization for young women who were from a Masonic or Eastern Star home.

Rainbow is open to girls between the ages of 11 and 20,

This is Ther Page

http://www.iorg.org/
http://www.freemasoninformation.com/BodiesofFM/rainbow.htm

After bieng here they join this ALUMNI at 20 years and above

http://www.iorg.org/alumni.htm

Laughing in Your FacePhoenix ( for the masonic halfwits in here )

The rainbow is some sort of programming trigger for mind controlled slaves, according to a website describing the link between the wizard of oz and mind controll, going over the rainbow has to do with going into an altered state.

[father ted]

http://www.mfnb.org/images/Grand%20Chapter%20Officers%202005%2006/tgpplane.jpg


2nd Grand Principal
Right Ex. Companion
Harold Planetta
http://www.mfnb.org/images/Grand%20Chapter%20Officers%202005%2006/tgpwride.jpg

1st Grand Principal
Most Ex. Companion
Wayne A. Rideout

3rd Grand PrincipNo pic for ths one al
Right Ex. Companion
Donald Jenkins

Are they part of the woman freemasons too?



:D

[father ted]

http://www.mastermason.com/hagerstownmasonictemple/images/RAARKBL.gif

The Royal Arch Degree is the climax of Ancient Craft Masonry and Masonic Symbolism. It is described as "the root and marrow of Freemasonry." It is the complete story of Jewish History during some of its darkest hours. Jerusalem and the Holy temple are destroyed, The people are being held captive as slaves in Babylon. Here you will join with some slaves as they are set free to return home and engage in the noble and glorious work of rebuilding the city and the Temple of God. It is during this rebuilding that they make a discovery that brings to light the greatest treasure of a Mason --the long lost Master's Word.
Many historians have traced the earliest origins of the Royal Arch Degree to Ireland, late in the 17th century and in England in 1738, In 1752, ambulatory or military warrants for Lodges were introduced. This was instrumental in placing the Royal Arch Degree on a par with the Master Mason Degree.
Military lodges were greatly responsible for planting Freemasonry in the Colonies and also gave birth to the use of the Marl and Royal Arch degrees in the "New World." Lodge records show that the Royal Arch Degree was conferred at Fredericksburg No. 4 on December 12, 1753. George Washington was raised in this lodge a few months prior to this date.
The value of Royal Arch Masonry will be appreciated by all who are exalted to that most sublime degree, particularly by those who are seeking to complete their Masonic education. It reveals the full light of Ancient Craft Masonry, presents it as a complete system in accordance with the original plan and justly entitles you to claim the noble name of Master Mason.

That's the ark of the covenant!

[eternal_spirit]

Another hand signal is the Vulcan peace sign. It is supposed to mean "Live Long and Prosper," and can be seen in Star Trek.
http://www.nisbett.com/symbols/images/peace_8.jpgVulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts, and light. The festival in honour of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered. "According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil.' It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil. What is even more interesting is that Vulcan is adored in Masonry under the name of Tubal Cain. In the Masonic Quiz Book the question is asked: "Who was Tubal Cain?" The answer is: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans.''
In Masonry, Tubal Cain is the name of the password for the Master Mason (or third) degree.
Listen to what occultist and Mason, Manly Palmer Hall, has to say:
"When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mastery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a ploughshare.''There is also a sexual connotation associated with Vulcan and Tubal Cain. Former Mason, Bill Schnoebelen, explains:
"For Masons who wish to conceal their membership from non-Masons, but still advertise it to their Lodge brothers, there is a special pin (or tie tack) they can wear. It looks like an upside down golf club with two balls near the top....Many people assume the person is a golfing enthusiast, but it is actually a visual Masonic pun.
"This is called the 'Two Ball Cane,' and is a pun on the secret password of a Master Mason, 'Tubalcain (sic).'...It is also an all-too-obvious pun on the 'god' of Masonry, the male reproductive organ. Nice, eh?...especially when many men wear these wretched things to church on Sunday!"

[celtic isis]

the holy water fonts in churchs are often shaped like vaginas :D

Masons who built the cathedrals did this knowingly and used to laugh at the fact that the congregation would dab their finger or fingers into the font/vagina to bless themselves :D

[nickatnoon61]

"America's Line: The Truth is Here!"

The James Cameron Conspiracy Theory



SCENE REMOVED BY THE CONSORTIUM FROM T2 SCRIPT

ELECTRO-CONVULSIVE THERAPY. Yes, they still do this shit to people.

INT. E.C.T. ROOM

Sarah's eyes go wide, clocking the sign on the door as she is wheeled in to a room full of ominous machines. Aging shock therapy equipment.

SILBERMAN Sarah, today we're going to be trying ECT...electro-convulsive therapy

SARAH No! Don't do this. Okay, look, Silberman -- hey! Don't put that --HEY!

She struggles vainly against the gurney straps as a NURSE tapes electrodes to her head. Silberman leans down to Sarah. The interns and the orderlies watch from near the door.

SILBERMAN Now relax, we're found this very helpful with problems like yours. Such as this feeling that you're being persecuted --

SARAH I'm not being persecuted, you fucking moron! I'm not a threat to them anymore. I told you. It's my son who's the target!

Silberman sighs. They finish placing the electrodes on her temples.

SARAH You've got to let me go so I can protect him! He's naked if they come for him now! Why won't you listen? You know how important this is?

The nurse sets the dials on the machine. Sarah starts to thrash now,becoming irrational. Starts shrieking at everyone in the room. She sounds exactly like what they say she is -- a whacko

SARAH Goddamnit. Let me go!! I'll kill you, FUCKER!!

She screams incoherently as they jam the rubber biscuit down between her teeth so she won't bite through her tongue when the voltage jump starts her brain. Silberman is smooth and cheerful as he turns to the interns.

SILBERMAN ECT is coming back into favor lately, and we've had good results with it. It looks worse than it is. As soon as the current hits her brain, she's out. It's a bit like punching the restart button on a computer when the program crashes.

He nods to the nurse and the current blasts through Sarah's brain, locking every muscle in her body into a painful contortion. It triggers an epilepsy- like seizure and she bucks and flops on the gurney.

SILBERMAN She's not feeling anything right now.

TIGHT ON SARAH'S FACE, contorted, jerking spasmodically. Then...

STROBOSCOPIC FLASH CUTS speeding up in rhythm, images coming at us like a roaring freight train:

TERMINATOR'S STEEL HAND lunging for her in the punch press. A CHROME SKULL, eyes burning red, a demon after her soul. STEEL FINGERS closing on her throat. Then... SARAH'S FINGERS groping endlessly for the switch to the press. Then...

TERMINATOR'S RED EYES filling frame. Lightning arcing all around as the press crushes the hideous machine. But even as it dies it has her by the throat. Even now, long after it's dead, it still has her by the throat. The lightning gets brighter and brighter... WHITING OUT FRAME


Cameron¹s description of the ETC scene would not be tolerated by the ³consortium² who funds Cameron. This scene was removed in order to prevent any person¹s who have been unknowingly affected by MK-ULTRA technology at the movies to discover that they¹ve been mind controlled. This scene also made the ³consortium² wonder about Cameron¹s loyalty to them.

After reviewing the "Missing Scene" I've come to the following conclusion about why the segment was not allowed.

It has nothing to do with exposing the crude type of torture that is utilized to destroy political prisoners___no this is common knowledge__the U.S., similar to the U.S.S.R.(1950's) utilized the same type of butchery on people they wanted to destroy under the guise of medical treatment. If fact, you might want to view the following link radiation experimentation on prisoners and 1993 federal civil rights action.

So, what was so damaging about the segment that the "consortium" refused to allow revealed to the public? It wasn't the torture techniques it was the comment Sarah made.

SARAH: I'm not being persecuted, you fucking moron! I'm not a threat to them anymore. I told you. It's my son who's the target!

Bingo! What this statement revealed is that a "secret system exists" and that they "persecute" people and____________put them away(destroy them). Why? If "they" think you are a threat to their system, if they think you won't accept their culture, if they just need a smuck for their game____you are fucked with(persecuted) and either destroyed(killed) or locked up!

This is the true reason why the segment was not allowed; and this is what happened to the engineering student__he was framed, tortured, persecuted, illegally incarcerated___and receives daily threats concerning being put away__similar to what they did to SARAH. Was he ever a threat to their civilization? No, yet he has often been told that he is and that his web-site exposes to much information about the " secret system".

In 1993 Cameron began doing research for a future project called ³Titanic² which would fit into this pattern of mind-control and Masonic symbolism.

True Lies, released in 1994, became the next big film for Cameron. The title ³True Lies² was symbolic of the inversion of words and meanings commonly found in Masonry to confuse outsiders. The best way to understand the title was to remember a phrase created by English Occultist/Freemason Aleister Crowley; ³If you want to understand, learn to think backwards².

Symbols that appeared in the film varied from helicopters shilouetted against the morning sun so they appeared black as in ³black helicopters² which have been seen all over the United States that year and the use of the name ³Trilby² for the leader of the Omega group. ³Trilby² was symbolic of the type of hats Masons would wear at many of their gatherings. A play based on a novel called ³Trilby² was written in 1848 by a Mason, the same year in which Freemasons were nearly driven out of the United States after the murder of Albert Pike who had revealed many Masonic secrets.

By this time Cameron had gained enough momentum to move further up in the Scottish Rite degrees of Masonry to receive guidance and direction from an established Hollywood ³consortium² known as the Hollywood Twelve. ³Hollywood-12² was a mirror group for the U.S. government¹s Majestic-12. MJ-12, which was created in 1947 after the crash of the extra-terrestial vehicle in Roswell, New Mexico and designed to manipulate history to control information on extra-terrestials. HW-12 was originally created in the 1950¹s during the ³Red Scare² and McCarthy witch hunts.

When the Masons and their ³consortium² of psychiatrists first introduced the MK-ULTRA technology to Hollywood to prepare the public for extra-terrestials and the New World Order, it was determined that a consortium would have to be built among those experienced in film making to implement this technology and to keep it in the proper hands. All of this culimated to become Hollywood Twelve, made up of film studios and television networks. Among HW-12¹s members today are;

20 Century Fox, Universal, Paramount, Warner Brothers, Sony/Columbia Pictures, Amblin Entertainment, Disney, Orion, CBS, NBC, ABC.

It is the mission of HW-12 to use MK-ULTRA technology to it¹s limits in ALL entertainment mediums, including, films, television, magazines, computers and now the internet.

In 1995, the world saw ³Strange Days², a film written and ³produced² by Cameron and directed by his 3rd wife(now ex-wife) Kathryn Bigelow. ³Strange Days², named after a ³Doors² song was symbolic of the weird things that would be occurring from 1995 onward that would shape history toward the world government by the millennium.

The film was based on a type of technology called ³SQUID² - Superconducting QUantum Interference Device. This device could be used to record human experiences on a CD ROM and play them back for later use. ³SQUID² was an actual device created from MK-ULTRA technology to record and play back memories as well as for use as a ³psychic driving² tool for mind control as Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron did by replaying his voice to mental patients to cause ³de-patternization² of human consciousness and multiple personalities.

A lot of the SQUID imagery in ³Strange Days² was loaded with subliminal messages which were inserted by ³consortium² members who had infiltrated ³Digital Domain² a special effects company created by Cameron in 1994. The film didn¹t make much at the box office and it was designed that way for the purposes of determining what kinds of subliminal images would draw a person to Cameron¹s films.

The negative portrayal of the SQUID technology was influenced by Cameron and the ³consortium² began to see him as a problem that needed to be handled. It turns out that while writing and researching Strange Days, Cameron discovered the MK-ULTRA connection and read about Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron¹s brain butchery in Montreal in the 1950¹s and was horrified to discover that his great artistic talents had been used in this way. He would try to break away from this madness.

The next big project on Cameron¹s list was ³TITANIC². A culimation of five years worth of research, Cameron was finally going to make a film that would be free of MK-ULTRA¹s influence. Since ³Strange Days², Cameron had learned that all of this time, he had been manipulated and controlled. by a group of ³bad² Freemasons who work for evil purposes.

In order to understand this, you have to trace the history of the Freemasons from Atlantis. In ancient Atlantis, there was originally ten republics that made up the island continent located in the Atlantic. During it¹s history, a disagreement over how Atlantis was going to be managed split the Atlanteans into two factions, the Sons of Belial and the Law of One. The disagreement evolved into a civil war which led to the suppression of the Law of One, which emphasized spiritual existence, and the creation of a dictatorship by the Sons of Belial which emphasized materialism.

The continuing materialism of the Sons of Belial led to the creation of changes in the Earth¹s climate, via pollution and waste of resources and the eventual sinking of the Atlantean continent as described in many ancient texts, including the book of ³Genesis² in the Bible. The Law of One preserved the intellectual and philosophical idealism from Atlantis and stored it inside of two hollow pillars they named Boaz and Jachin that floated away from Atlantis and were later discovered by ancient travelers in Europe. Boaz was the Atlantean word for ³strength² while Jachin was the word for ³stability². From the information found inside these pillars by travelers who were known as ³sojourners², they founded the earliest remnants of Freemasonry with the precepts of ³strength and stability² and passed them down through the generations.

As Freemasonry evolved into the 1700¹s, several members had quarreled with other members and secretly revived the Sons of Belial into their own faction also known as the Illuminati. Upon discovery, the rest of the Masons became the Law of One faction. Both factions worked toward the same goal, the recreation of Atlantis. Thus with the help of several of their members from both sides, including George Washington of the American Masons and Adam Weishaupt of the Bavarian Illuminati, they created the United States of America in 1776. Since then, both factions have two versions of the same goal. The Sons of Belial faction wants to enslave the human race in a ³New World Order² while the Law of One Faction wants to create a ³Pax Humana² or Human Peace.

The Sons of Belial faction are responsible for events that set back human history and creativity while The Law of One faction has been responsible for advancing the human race toward the it¹s ultimate goal, to rejoin the community of civilizations in the universe where humanity originally came from.

After breaking from the Sons of Belial faction of Masonry, Cameron was finally approached by members of the Law of One faction to help him create one of the most emotionally moving and popular film of all time.

When Cameron casted actors to fill the roles, the Law of One faction helped him find other Law of One members who would make the film a success.

Among them were Order of Eastern Star members, Kate Winslet and Gloria Stuart for the young Rose and old Rose roles. For the Jack Dawson role, Cameron had chose Leonardo Dicaprio, who is a Freemason. He had admittedto being a Mason in a 1995 German television interview. When the reporter had pressed for further details, Leo became uncomfortable and abruptly ended the interview. This was because he¹s been followed by members of the Son¹s of Belial faction and they¹ve intimidated him into silence.

Cameron wouldn¹t remain completely free from the Sons of Belial faction for long. During part of the filming in Nova Scotia, someone had spiked clam chowder that was going to be fed to crew members with PCP. This had sickened many people, including Cameron who¹s eyes had become as red as the eyes of the Terminator. Everyone recovered but more events would take place. Another Son of Belial member posing as a Mexican mafia hitman had threatened Cameron¹s life on the Titanic set in Baja, Mexico.

The Law of One continued to help Cameron make Titanic into a ³religious experience² and to serve as a metaphorical warning to the world of the consequences of the Sons of Belial faction taking over with their ³New World Order² and moving carelessly into the future with only technology. Under the Sons of Belial, the population of the world would be coerced into slavery and finally destruction. Similar ideas of the choice between servitude or destruction have been placed in several Hollywood recent movies ranging from films like ³Independence Day² to ³The X-Files Movie² as warnings of the future to come.

The number of Oscar nominations received by Titanic explained the Law of One¹s influence on the ³religious experience² side while the MK-ULTRA technology held by the Sons of Belial influenced the films subliminal imagery and created repeated viewing by audience members to the point of the film taking in 1 Billion dollars. The success of the film created a rewarding situation for Cameron who had now achieved the status of a 32nd Degree Mason and in August of 1997 he had married Linda Hamilton, who played Sarah Connor in Terminator 2 and is also a member of the Order of the Eastern Star.

The Academy Awards will be held at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. The building was built in 1927 by The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, better known as the Shriners. The Shriners are an organization which admits only 32nd degree Masons and was founded in New York City in the 1870¹s by American actor William Florence.

Upon entering the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, on March 23rd, 1998, James Cameron will become instated as a 33rd Degree Mason. The outcome of the Oscars will determine which side James Cameron is being influenced by in Freemasonry, the Law of One faction or the Sons of Belial and the ³consortium².

This document is delivered by C.S.M. to bring the truth to reality.

Morning Star the Light Bearer


I think this paper is supportive of the allegations that the student is making in "America's line: The Truth is Here". Movies are made that target groups of people___and individuals. and a secret system exists in the world___

These facts probably don't cause much alarm as long as you can still buy gasoline at a reasonable price, educate your children, and watch Oprah in the afternoon. But what if your kid is a victim of "their game"? Isn't it time we demanded more information? I believe the average American can handle the truth.

Okay, so your still thinking about the clue that I promised concerning the celebrity who has a surname counter-part that has a track record probably similar to that of the infamous butcher Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron. Well, it is rumored that this celebrity is trying to have the student "put away" because of "www.mansue.com". Starting to get scary? I don't want to make this too easy sooooooo, for all you legal beagles, try doing a federal case search using the defendant name "?wait, I've got to do some more research__ don't want to lead you on a wild goose chase.".











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[tinmenace]

Another hand signal is the Vulcan peace sign. It is supposed to mean "Live Long and Prosper," and can be seen in Star Trek.
http://www.nisbett.com/symbols/images/peace_8.jpgVulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts, and light. The festival in honour of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered. "According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil.' It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil. What is even more interesting is that Vulcan is adored in Masonry under the name of Tubal Cain. In the Masonic Quiz Book the question is asked: "Who was Tubal Cain?" The answer is: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans.''
In Masonry, Tubal Cain is the name of the password for the Master Mason (or third) degree.
Listen to what occultist and Mason, Manly Palmer Hall, has to say:
"When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mastery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a ploughshare.''There is also a sexual connotation associated with Vulcan and Tubal Cain. Former Mason, Bill Schnoebelen, explains:
"For Masons who wish to conceal their membership from non-Masons, but still advertise it to their Lodge brothers, there is a special pin (or tie tack) they can wear. It looks like an upside down golf club with two balls near the top....Many people assume the person is a golfing enthusiast, but it is actually a visual Masonic pun.
"This is called the 'Two Ball Cane,' and is a pun on the secret password of a Master Mason, 'Tubalcain (sic).'...It is also an all-too-obvious pun on the 'god' of Masonry, the male reproductive organ. Nice, eh?...especially when many men wear these wretched things to church on Sunday!"




I found the Vulcan connection interesting.... (Do you have a source? I'd like to do some more reading on it)

This from the FF NWO (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3860) thread



Who is Robert Bruce Zoellick?

This is like repeating myself but here goes...He was the Deputy Secretary of State, and resigned to work for Goldman Sachs (see how the same institutions pop up for all of them?)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Robert_Zoellick.jpg

He's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (http://www.cfr.org/) and also a member of the Trilateral Commission (http://www.trilateral.org/)

Guess what? Yeah, he's also a member of Phi Beta Kappa...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/key.jpg

He is also a "Vulcan". What is this, you may ask? Well, The Vulcans are a group of people that came together as advisers to George W. Bush before the 2000 campaign. The key members were:


Richard Armitage
Condoleezza Rice
Paul Wolfowitz
Robert Blackwill
Stephen Hadley
Richard Perle
Dov Zakheim
Bruce Zoellick


After George W. Bush was 'elected', all these people went on to key positions within the new administration, and beyond. There seems to be significant cross pollination between the PNAC (http://www.newamericancentury.org/) and The Vulcans

But as usual, there is a god reference. It's ALWAYS about their gods, isn't it?

Vulcan is the god of fire, but especially destructive fire and volcanoes. He is the god of manufacturing arms and other metal made weapons of war. How utterly appropriate for this war-mongering monster that people call the president of the USA. Utterly pathetic!

The largest statue in the world of Vulcan is in Birmingham Alabama, coincidentally Condosleezza's hometown. What a surprise...NOT!

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/vulcan.jpg

[tinmenace]

The Sons of Belial faction wants to enslave the human race in a ³New World Order² while the Law of One Faction wants to create a ³Pax Humana² or Human Peace.


Interesting. The one thing I cannot ever get past, however, is why there has to be separation of gender. Why is there Freemasonry for men only, and then a different one for women? Why are secrets withheld from the uninitiated? How can they really be interested in human peace when they don't afford all humans the benefit of their knowledge?

Any institution that threatens people with their lives if they reveal their secrets is interested only in control, IMHO.

All in all interesting post, Nicky. Thanks for the input.

[phoenix1]

Hi im new here, interesting stuff there, but pheonix what did you mean by this?

Laughing in Your FacePhoenix ( for the masonic halfwits in here )



Do you mean the people who have given information or the masons them selves?
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AHH Ok Hi Melika and welcome.. (fisrt bit is my signing out style .. i do it different in different posts Melika) Seconf part in brackets i suspect a masonic presence in here.. In different guises, Im maybe wrong on some ... but i feel it around so I aint gonna pont no fingers until i know for a fact.. it woild ne unfair. Thats all i meanby thet Melika nothing more nothing less.

Hope that clears it up for ya

Have a cool day Meliks and enjoy the banter lol.. the rows the lows and the rare massive highrs lol... usual deal in here lol, But things will alter in september maybe with the Equinox sorely needed.:):):)

[melika]

heylo there pheonix

ah yeh i too feel there is masonic presence... some standing out more than others. Im sure we all know who that is!

im guessing the time on this is set to american time because when i send a post at 12 ish it says iv sent it at 5 in the morning! ah well!

thanks i will have a good day im off to a gig! wahey!
hope you have a good day or night, depending where you are! lol

choa! :):D:p

[tinmenace]

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[celtic isis]

heylo there pheonix

ah yeh i too feel there is masonic presence... some standing out more than others. Im sure we all know who that is!

im guessing the time on this is set to american time because when i send a post at 12 ish it says iv sent it at 5 in the morning! ah well!

thanks i will have a good day im off to a gig! wahey!
hope you have a good day or night, depending where you are! lol

choa! :):D:p

hello miss dick van dyker :D fancy seeing u over here!

[celtic isis]

Interesting video.... (http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2841642)



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I agree tin, i actually put this vid on my old handbag thread and over 19 000 people saw it ;) back in the good ole days when i had a grudge against freemasons ;)

[celtic isis]

Interesting. The one thing I cannot ever get past, however, is why there has to be separation of gender. Why is there Freemasonry for men only, and then a different one for women? Why are secrets withheld from the uninitiated? How can they really be interested in human peace when they don't afford all humans the benefit of their knowledge?

Any institution that threatens people with their lives if they reveal their secrets is interested only in control, IMHO.

All in all interesting post, Nicky. Thanks for the input.

I'll try and answer these questions tin...and remember i'm just offering up what i "know of"...i'm your resident freemasonic spy ;)

In my opinion it's just the usual sexism in society, for example in golf clubs also, some are men only...

OK...so for the separation of gender:

Originally all the initiatic "groups" were essentially male...as for the stone masons/buliders who built the cathedrals etc who later became the freemasons, they were all male too.


All the symbols etc were built in realation to men or taking men, the male, into context and not fully applicable or suitable for women.

When women were initiated they already began to create their own symbolism to suit themselves, their aspects of knowledge etc, their sensitivity, to suit their lives and the work they used to do at this time.

It is tradition is to have lodges for men and lodges for women...as they are both unique in their being...which can be seen as sexist this separation by certain people (like me!) or to respect the way it began, and to respect the female specificity, their own uniqueness in relation to the male by having their own lodges where they are free to dicuss without the on-looking of the males.

Some freemasons don't have the modern way of thinking and prefer that masons who like the idea of women being included i.e. mixed lodges that they go to lodges specifically that are mixed and that those who are old fashioned and maybe would feel uncomfortable in the presence of women go to exclusively male lodges for this reason.

But for the modern mason it is just a tradition which will take more time to evolve into having both male and female presence in the lodge at each meeting.

It's important to remember that it's also because women prefer to be in a female lodge too, that represent more who they are, with their own symbolism, "the moon as opposed to the sun", more the female aspect of things.

Each lodge is free to allow women to come if they wish at each meeting or to organise a mixed meeting at the lodge (at least it is so in my OH's lodge).

Sometimes there is a large turnout of women at such a meeting and other times there isn't. They like having their own style and own way to do things. Not to force them to evolve in a male tradition. ;)

So many things are seen as wholly male, freemasonry is no different, at least at the time in when it began. It is easy to criticise freemasonry but you only have to look at certain cultures/races to see how little women have evolved, i.e. not even being allowed to eat with men, or be in the same room as men, look at islam.

How can they really be interested in human peace when they don't afford all humans the benefit of their knowledge?

Great question!

Most of freemasons are involved in associations to help people, just like in their normal real life jobs, and they carry this with them into their freemasonic pursuits.

They don't try to teach people symbolism in the way that religon is preached etc...

they try to give the example of how to live on the earth to make life better for everyone. From what they learn in the esoteric knowledge, they take this into society with them, by being an upstanding person, of course you don't have to be a freemason to be like this! We all should be anyway, good people.

But to answer your question up there the way you phrased it...

Why should they give their knowledge? It's people's own ignorance that keeps this knowledge away, hidden. It's up to human beings themslves to go look for it, why should it be down to freemasons? Why does our goverment, education system etc keep this knowledge from us that's the real question.

You go on any freemasonic site or rosicrucian site and the knowledge is right there. It's just human ignorance and laziness.

And in freemsonry you don't have a sacred book, a dogma like in religon. The degrees learn the esoteric, gnostic knowledge and teachings, it's not a dogma! It's more (regarding initiation) an inward journey inside yourself towards the knowledge of the knowing...it's not a matter of a list of books you're told to read and to learn and then you're a fully fledged freemason. It's not about that.


It's freeing this journey of knowledge and i agree it should be available to everyone, but of course that's not what the system on this planet is about. It's about keeping people in ignorance. Of course i realise that some very high up freemasons are responsible for this but it's not good to pin everything on freemasons. They're not soley responsible in this web of deceit.


Why are secrets with held from the unintitated?

Well that doesn't apply to only freemasons that applies to every aspect of our lives, and society. Why is so much wihtheld and coded in double speak, Orwellian code and sugar coated for the masses. We know why this is! It's to suit the agenda and peddle the people in the direction they want us to go.

[tinmenace]

Why are secrets with held from the unintitated?

Well that doesn't apply to only freemasons that applies to every aspect of our lives, and society. Why is so much wihtheld and coded in double speak, Orwellian code and sugar coated for the masses. We know why this is! It's to suit the agenda and peddle the people in the direction they want us to go.


Right! And I have issue with it. It's wrong and perpetuates an "us and them" mentality even within our own species. The divide-and-conquer strategy starts with our gender (perpetuated by organizations like Freemasonry and others), and then moves to a slightly larger scale like neighborhood rivalry, city rivalry, state rivalry, country rivalries....and at the end of it all we're all enemies because we indoctrinated to accept this division from childhood.

In my opinion this is the kind of thing that continues to divide humanity, and to see each other as the enemies when the real enemies remain hidden...laughing at us.

For me, just because tradition has perpetuated a separatist culture, doesn't mean it's right or healthy. This is why I oppose any organization that is so openly sexist, and that withholds "self-growth" secrets from the general population. Aren't we ALL worthy of this information? Should we really be subject to death if we reveal these secrets?

It's just another form of control. It's ritualistic control and I oppose it with every fiber of my being.

That's just me.

I'm sure a lot more people are tolerable toward Freemasonry, for whatever reason. I have no tolerance for it at all, and if I found out that my husband was secretly a Freemason...I'd divorce him. My soul is not for sale.

I'm not suggesting you've sold your soul by loving a Freemason. It's different for everyone, but for me, that's how it would feel. It would feel like I've let all of mankind down.

Just my two cents...:)

[tinmenace]

Thanks Skyver (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7605) for posting this info.

Freemasonry, A criminal organization. (http://www.rense.com/general77/freem.htm)

rense.com

[tinmenace]

Freemasons are Dummies...er I mean Freemasons for Dummies - LINK (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7606) :rolleyes:

[edit]

http://www.rense.com/general77/freem.htmThey have become FM slaves and most have become crooked benefactors.
FM (disambiguation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_%28disambiguation%29

FM can refer to:


In science and engineering

Frequency modulation, the carrying of information over an electromagnetic wave by varying its frequency. Its most common applications are:
FM broadcasting, used primarily to broadcast music and speech at VHF frequencies
Frequency modulation synthesis, a sound-generation technique popularized by early digital synthesizers
Fm, the chemical symbol for Fermium
Ferrous metal, any ferromagnetic metal (iron, nickel, cobalt, neodymium, or praseodymium)
Fathom, a marine unit of length
fm, the symbol for femtometre, an SI unit of length (also known as the fermi)
File manager, in computing
.fm, country-code top-level domain (ccTLD) of the Federated States of Micronesia
FM Towns, one of a line of personal computers by Fujitsu
Titanium tetrachloride, a chemical found in some smoke screens

People http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_%28disambiguation%29

[tinmenace]

I love you Edit, you always have such a fun and interesting angle on things.

I have a few FM (or MF) disambiguations of my own. :D

[dondaz]

Masonry - Behind Closed Doors

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-783233753719250111&q=Monty+Python+masons&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Also, Anti-Masonic Claims Refuted

The history of anti-masonry is almost as old as that of Freemasonry itself. Anti-masonic thought can be grouped into two broad catagories: accusations of anti-Christian or satanic objectives, and accusations of political and social manipulation. Anti-masonic thought today generally turns to the many conspiracy theories currently popular in the media. Historically, Freemasonry has ignored such attacks. The following articles contain the facts.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/index.html

Mason propaganda!

[tinmenace]

Also, Anti-Masonic Claims Refuted



This is my point! They say things, which simply don't make sense, like - Freemasonry is not a religion - but then when you ask why they have TEMPLES and ALTARS, they never ever answer you. Even Masonic3 (under that user name) who had the balls to admit he was a Freemason (not like the other pussies incognito around these here parts) wouldn't answer that question. In fact I think he simply ignored it.

Also, Albert Pike says it's a religion. So, why all the contradictions? You wonder if they are sooooo brainwashed that they don't question the contradictions, or if they are just knowing in on the scam and couldn't care less...:confused:

Anyhoo, cool video, it's very long and I'm only 10 minutes into it, but already I'm talking sternly to my monitor, asking questions...:D

[dondaz]

They say things, which simply don't make sense

Isn't that the whole point of masonry?

As it goes, I was stalking Erdington cemetary today and came across two graves with the compass and rule, one was a big black cross, a few graves up and there was one enscribed CROWLEY.

I got the footage mate. Quite creepy. Obviously not the same crowely, but all these gaves in this one row seemed masonic without them saying so, if you know what I mean?

Anyway, here's some unusual pics I found on the net:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/PublicParkacrossSanduskyMasonicTemp.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/frank_sinatra_cd.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/m63.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/CropCircleDM0107_468x334.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/mm1.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/Hendrix-Masonic-poster.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/33gang.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/BronzeGoat1.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/ultravox02.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/goatridingpc1.jpg

[celtic isis]

Right! And I have issue with it. It's wrong and perpetuates an "us and them" mentality even within our own species. The divide-and-conquer strategy starts with our gender (perpetuated by organizations like Freemasonry and others), and then moves to a slightly larger scale like neighborhood rivalry, city rivalry, state rivalry, country rivalries....and at the end of it all we're all enemies because we indoctrinated to accept this division from childhood.

In my opinion this is the kind of thing that continues to divide humanity, and to see each other as the enemies when the real enemies remain hidden...laughing at us.

For me, just because tradition has perpetuated a separatist culture, doesn't mean it's right or healthy. This is why I oppose any organization that is so openly sexist, and that withholds "self-growth" secrets from the general population. Aren't we ALL worthy of this information? Should we really be subject to death if we reveal these secrets?

It's just another form of control. It's ritualistic control and I oppose it with every fiber of my being.

That's just me.

I'm sure a lot more people are tolerable toward Freemasonry, for whatever reason. I have no tolerance for it at all, and if I found out that my husband was secretly a Freemason...I'd divorce him. My soul is not for sale.

I'm not suggesting you've sold your soul by loving a Freemason. It's different for everyone, but for me, that's how it would feel. It would feel like I've let all of mankind down.

Just my two cents...:)

:eek: wow i'm shocked hun that you would say that.

In fairness, if i found out that my fiancé was SECRETLY a freemason, and i mena SECRETLY i would be seriously pissed of at him for keeping it secret. However, it was one of the first things he told me cause he knew so many people had a problem with it and i will admit, when he told me my reaction was FUCK! :D

However, i KNOW my guy and he's a good guy, in fact you'd be pushed to find a better guy than him.

But yeah, i totally understand your view. It's a tricky one...

In fact, regarding the temple stuff, it is a temple but in a symbolic way. and that's as clear as mud isn't it!

It is done to make you see and feel the difference between the inside world and outside world; it is not "sacred" but meetings are carried out in the temple/lodge to show the member that he is there to work and to work seriously ;it is not special by itself but it is used for something special...it seperates everyday life/world and brings the member into mysticism or mystic setting...very hard to put into words.

Albert Pike was booted out of freemasonry for being the evil twat that he was so he's not a good example. I know in my OH's lodge a lot of people have been booted out for being power obsessed and only their for their own interests.

Look, have you ever actually met freemasons, or been to one of their "open" meetings? I have.

And this was after reading icke, cooper etc, i was sitting there thinking, fuck i hope they can't see on my face what i "possibly" know about them...i was like this :eek:

How to make a religon with freemasonry without any dogma, any holy book or any god?

The "great architect of the universe" is just the consciousness of creation - for people who don't believe in god it is just the law of nature, the law of the univers etc, for catholics it's God/Jesus, Yaweh etc, for Muslims it's Allah etc, i just believe in the consciousness that created everything, not any one god type figure, the consciousness that is Oneness.


My soul is not for sale either hunny. :D Neither is my OH's, he is free, he lives his life the way HE wants. Maybe it's just cause he's french and things are more laid back here. ???????????????

I do know that in the english line of freemasonry, you have to recognise the existance of the grand architect, you work for the "glory" of the great architect. Whereas in the french line you don't.

And mankind has been the only one to let itself down hunny.

[tinmenace]

To each, their own :)

[phoenix1]

You are still fucking about arnt you !! The violin thing was NOT a pop at you.. tin is NOT COLD !! .. you asked for this....we are all sorry about your Mum.. who wouldn't be ??
I AINT REPLYING TO THIS MESSAGE!!!

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[tinmenace]

You are still fucking about arnt you !! The violin thing was NOT a pop at you.. tin is NOT COLD !! .. you asked for this....we are all sorry about your Mum.. who wouldn't be ??
I AINT REPLYING TO THIS MESSAGE!!!

I f you ar gonna make peace .. then do so.. this message is AFTER your peacemaking..
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Silly me, thinking there really was a clean slate...:rolleyes:

[tinmenace]

Stay tuned for a post about victims of Freemasonic spells...

[tinmenace]

Mackey's Encyclopedia (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/encyclopedia_freemasonry.html) of Freemasonry and it's Kindred Sciences

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/mackey_cover.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/talmud.jpg

Some quotes from the Talmud:



Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Jesus!

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Yeah, make sure you screw her up for life at a very YOUNG age.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
Yeah, we've heard about your ritualistic brain-washing, rape and murder of children, especially girls.

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Women are equivalent to trees and dogs. Really?

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
Sounds something like the people that are forbidden from joining True Freemasonry


Well, isn't it interesting that the Talmud is considered KINDRED to the religion of Freemasonry. How anyone can pardon this is beyond me.

Some interesting images from the same book:


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/baal.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/succothbencth.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/masonictemples/ashtaroth.jpg