Giving up the weed (tips or advice please)

[openmind]

I'm not talking cigs here, but the spliffing kind. Been smoking it for some 7 years now and have decided it is time to stop. I've tried to stop before but as soon as I get stressed I was back on it in a day.

When I get/feel stressed I find it very difficult to sleep thus reaching for the weed. I've tried natural sleeping tablets (valerian), massage. A hot bath, nothing has helped. So do I just go cold turkey and be strong.

Does anyone have any pointers or tips?

Thanks in advance.

:o

[scatlond]

Instead of not sleeping, do something dont lie in bed staring at the ceiling, you cant not sleep forever , it will come do as much exercise as you can, and keep it up.

All the best.

[jesta_g]

Instead of not sleeping, do something dont lie in bed staring at the ceiling, you cant not sleep forever , it will come do as much exercise as you can, and keep it up.

All the best.


agreed, with this also start eating plenty of fruit and veg and drinking water, the healthy affects will start to filter into your smoking habits and also general unhealthiness, soon you will no longer wish to smoke the weed as you and your body begins to crave a healthy lifestyle.

This worked for me when stpping it and I was smoking on average a 1/4 (7 g) a day at one point. I have recently got back into smoking the green as it helps me relax after a long day at work and spending evening withs the wee one. Im happy with this as i still enjoy it while i have seriously cut back to an 1/8th (3.5g) every 2 weeks or so.


Honestly tho, the easiest way around this is the healthy approach as you will begin to not want to harm or affect your new found diet and care for your body.

also as scatlond suggests keep your mind and your body busy. excercise to reading books, every little helps.

If you still enjoy the green after,say, a month of not smoking then get yourself a wee pipe and smoke it how it was intended, clean and to the point. A wee pipe at the end of the night does no harm.


good luck my friend, yoou can do this. trust me you will feel great, inside and out.

[croatiancoffee]

I smoke it. I enjoy it. I know it does some good, though not for health reasons. I also know it can be bad.
I smoke cigs and dont like doing that. That is bad.

The best option is to smoke it pure without the tobacco.

Although, you want to quit. I guess the best way is to use NLP.

When thinking about stopping smoking, I read a book called "The easy way to stop smoking" by Allen Carr (not the comedian) which enlightened me.
He has since passed from smoking related disease, which is quote ironic.
It is a good book but was appaently rejected by the govenment when they wanted a scheme to stop smoking.

He helps you to remove the psychological need to smoke, as best he can.
All about using the right kind of language.

I find it hard to stop smoking cigarettes. Weed is easy to stop for me, but I enjoy it, so dont really want to. Wish you well.

[lordzoma]

Willpower.

[armoured_amazon]

Spend as much time at places where you can't smoke, e.g. at relatives houses, public places etc.

[jonnyb]

first give up cigs as thats the main problem with the addictive side of things
dont worry about the sleep it will sort itself out
and as soon as you quit for like 3-4 days you wont really want to go back to that monged state

i was a heavy smoker from 16-22 and i stopped havent really gone back since as once you stop i find you dont really want to get back into it

[gutcassidy]

I find the best thing to do is to start gradually ratcheting back my use until only at night. And only a small amount... I don't approach it as 'Today is the last day I'm going to smoke pot for ever and ever'. I just slowly whittle away until one day I'll wake up and realise I didn't smoke the day before...

Just try and keep your mind occupied for the day. Run errands. Exercise, exercise, exercise. Eat right. Have sex... Avoid alcohol(For me, when I drink, weed comes naturally).

And don't beat yourself up over it. Realise that weed isn't really that important and you have control over it.

[ianw]

What are you missing the weed or the nicotine, I stopped weed easy I smoked a lot more cigys though.Nicotine I just can´t kick.Make it harder to get old of,tell whoever your geting it off ,hes a mean tosser always giving shit dope and shit deals,that should help you cut back.Go for it ,good luck.

[sharpiesix]

Just don't buy it. Occupy your mind with more important things. Stress is born out of uncertainty. If your stressed about a lot of stuff write them down, when you see the list you will feel less stressed. Just been through what your trying to do after being a stoner for about 15 years. Its not easy and people will try and change your mind, but i will tel you this....when you do close doors on something bigger better ones open. Your soul I telling you to stop : )

Hope this helps :cool:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37434 (this is the thread i started about it)

[humito]

well ya wont miss it ,i diddnt anyway after a week that was it.........nicotine a different story ,4 me anyway:mad:...............tell ya one thing you really get ur dreams back when ya stop.mine were so vivid they kept waking me up for ages..........

[Ratiocinator]

One reason why cannabis is so appealing is because of the alkaloids in contains. Add more green leafy vegetables to your diet, which will provide a massive amount of nutrients and alkalinise the body, and you may find that your craving will dissolve.

Also, refrain from acid-forming foods (meat, milk, flour, etc.) and your body will crave alkalinising sources all that less.

[drakul]

Weed is the most insidious drug in the world. One day you're smoking on weekends, only, the next day you're smoking in the AM before work, after work, etc. I smoked it over 10 years.

1. Cut off your friends who smoke. Cultivate relationships with people who don't smoke weed. Your pothead friends will always be your main `enablers' who encourage you to smoke and provide you with stuff.

2. Start a family - this may not work for you but it was the main thing that got me off pot. Having kids is real life and they need you to be completely real and there for them all the time, not in a stoned out daze. Plus they are so fun and loving - who needs pot? Pot is really just a filler for real life.

3. Develop strong hobbies/sports which require your full attention and sharp reflexes.

4. All the other previous stuff from other posters about diet and exercise is also very important - if for no other reason than weed depletes your nervous system and your blood - it is a serious diuretic. Also I found smoking it is hard on your heart and lungs. Just like smoking anything.

5. Last but far from least - whenever you start to toke up, think of all the bad things weed does to you and why you don't want to smoke it anymore. Then go ahead and light a joint. But you will feel so negative about smoking that you won't enjoy it as much, gradually this negative programming will help lessen your desire to smoke.

[dmt head]

tell ya one thing you really get ur dreams back when ya stop.mine were so vivid they kept waking me up for ages..........

Your so right there, when I stopped I couldnt beleive the great dreams I was missing out on another reason not to smoke. I stopped due to extreme paranoia lol Thouhg I smoke on occasion or when on other things, actually made my own smoking blend the other day, some salvia leaf some kanna and a lttle bit of powdered hash, the hash is the least amount and I think they complement each other quite well. Theres lots of erbs and plants out there you can smoke that isnt weed.

[drael]

hot showers,
cranberry juice for detox,
melatonin for sleep...

And spice or smoking blends to keep the cravings down...(they is far less addictive)

[psych641]

3. Develop strong hobbies/sports which require your full attention and sharp reflexes.

theres definately some wisdom here, but.. a lot of snowboarders/skaters/bmx/mtbers toke. (probably surfers too, but i dont know any)


All i can really add is theres a subtle, but significant difference between giving up & stopping. Ive found drugs difficult to 'give up' iyswim, cos that implies your still thinking about them in a fond, longing way. Then you can easily fall into those patterns of 'rewarding' yourself, thinking in terms of sporadic 'days on/off' etc...

But if i can make my mind up to STOP then i quickly start thinking of myself as a non-user, it becomes something that i just dont do anymore. It neednt be forever in the case of weed, theres no need to say goodbye. i just think about it in terms of opening up a new era where ive redefined myself.

A lot of weeds power is placebo - during long breaks ive often felt really nice & chilled in the late evenings, and i think this is just how it used to feel when i was smoking everyday.

[openmind]

Many thanks for your heads up everybody, I stopped smoking as of last night (I know it's not long, but if you've smoked every night like me for 7 years non stop without resorting to something else (like alcohol) i'm giving myself a pat on the back..:o However I was up untill 6am mind tossing and turning..:(.

Me thinks if I try and stop gradually I wont stop as I'll 'know' I have a stash and it'll be too tempting.

It also doesn't help that I work in the evenings, I get home about 12 every night and spark up!! (it also made me unwind as I was still wired and wide awake.)
I think i'll go for the exercise route, hopefully that'll sort me out and I know it's good for stress to. David Lloyd here I come (gym)..wish me luck guys.

Many thanks

[armoured_amazon]

Many thanks for your heads up everybody, I stopped smoking as of last night (I know it's not long, but if you've smoked every night like me for 7 years non stop without resorting to something else (like alcohol) i'm giving myself a pat on the back..:o However I was up untill 6am mind tossing and turning..:(.

Me thinks if I try and stop gradually I wont stop as I'll 'know' I have a stash and it'll be too tempting.

It also doesn't help that I work in the evenings, I get home about 12 every night and spark up!! (it also made me unwind as I was still wired and wide awake.)
I think i'll go for the exercise route, hopefully that'll sort me out and I know it's good for stress to. David Lloyd here I come (gym)..wish me luck guys.

Many thanks

Well done :)

[1337]

you dont have to quit smoking weed.

you just have to realize addiction is a demon.

when you understand this, it is easy to block the demon out .

its called the addict brain. once you can stop it from taking over your mind ,

you are good to go.

i love skateboarding stoned, i also love skatebaording sober, so either way. i still enjoy my cannabis. and my skateboarding and my music.
these 3 things are what make me happy. peace

[kweli]

well ya wont miss it ,i diddnt anyway after a week that was it.........nicotine a different story ,4 me anyway:mad:...............tell ya one thing you really get ur dreams back when ya stop.mine were so vivid they kept waking me up for ages..........

Aye, that's true

[whitewolf]

It's seems that addictive behaviour, be it smoking, drinking, drug use, shopping, over/under eating, spending hours on the DI forum instead of working(joke:D) is way of hiding or anaesthetising deep anxiety. Therefore deal with the anxiety and the need for the 'supports' disappears.
The most effective treatment I have come across is Emotional Freedom Tapping or EFT.
www.emofree.com
It's easy and free to learn. Though you may prefer to find a practitioner (most will do phone sessions) the website lists all the trained practitioners.
Check it out, try it out, persist, don't give up cos you think it's silly or won't work. It's not and it does. There's a forum with a whole section on addictions.
I've had amazing, spectacular results and it cost me nada. There's a free downloadable manual on the website.
Good health and happiness to you.:)

[leeshort27]

Spend as much time at places where you can't smoke, e.g. at relatives houses, public places etc.

this would be my tip also, keep active join a sports club or get a hobby, anything to keep you active, this will help your sleep, also read in bed or do a brain teaser or something. i been smoking that for nigh on 15 years so i have a lot of respect for you efforts, good luck and keep mus informed.:)

[tattooverb]

hi good luck with quitting
if you have a tibetan doctor in your aria they can help
you can get an herbal pill that helps curb your cravings for the first couple of days
but be warned if you take it and then smoke it will make you sick as hell (that includes smoking anything and drinking alcohol or too much caffein )

[drael]

They shudnt use a word that contains "emo".

[phildee3]

What a load of codswallop!
Cannabis is no more addictive than apple juice!

[scatlond]

What a load of codswallop!
Cannabis is no more addictive than apple juice!


Psychologically addictive.The habitual user thinks they need it.

[phildee3]

Psychologically addictive.The habitual user thinks they need it.



I used it daily for seven years when I lived in California (where it is abundant).
When I moved away, and there was none around, I never even thought about it.
If and when a joint came along it was great.

What is "psychologically addictive"
and couldn't anything be psychologically addictive?
Why pick on pot?
Why not say "I have an addictive personality, can anybody help?"

[supertzar]

I always find these How Do I Cure My Weed Addiction threads a little pathetic. I know that sounds mean, but I just can't understand it. I have been smoking for twenty years and if I don't feel like smoking I just don't and I am fine. I have never had anything close to withdrawals. Never one twinge. The problem of not sleeping I can understand because Cannabis increases melatonin and I can see how someone might miss it if they are in a melatonin deficit. You might try turning your lights off earlier in the night to get your body to make it.

[abaddon]

I've been off cold turkey for a while now. Smoked with tobacco, learning to kick the ciggies now... and doing wonderfully (I have one or two a week).

Remember, it's not about quantity. I 'quit' once before, was down to a cone a day.. but still had my cone every day. You either smoke, or you don't. You smoke, or you stop. I'm still a smoker, because I smoke nearly every week. But I kicked drugs fair in the arse, for good. Big difference.

Weed is the most insidious drug in the world. One day you're smoking on weekends, only, the next day you're smoking in the AM before work, after work, etc. I smoked it over 10 years.

1. Cut off your friends who smoke. Cultivate relationships with people who don't smoke weed. Your pothead friends will always be your main `enablers' who encourage you to smoke and provide you with stuff.

#2- phatchance at my age

3. Develop strong hobbies/sports which require your full attention and sharp reflexes.

4. All the other previous stuff from other posters about diet and exercise is also very important - if for no other reason than weed depletes your nervous system and your blood - it is a serious diuretic. Also I found smoking it is hard on your heart and lungs. Just like smoking anything.

5. Last but far from least - whenever you start to toke up, think of all the bad things weed does to you and why you don't want to smoke it anymore. Then go ahead and light a joint. [wordchange->]But you will feel (the effects become so negative) that you won't enjoy it as much, gradually this negative programming will help lessen your desire to (start).

Go to a mates when they smoke and don't smoke it. See how they sit around, conversation slows, the games/activities they play/do are so absorbing to them (or whatever example you want to replace). See how time flies for them and not for you. Imagine how much time you've wasted in this same headspace. You realize that you quickly become bored. Because your BRAIN is not being HEAD-FUCKED, pun intended.

Last, but not least, man the fuck up.

I wish someone close to me told me that, but they all smoked. And said the opposite. So I'm doing you a favour.


Don't kick yourself if you can't stop cold turkey.

Kick yourself if you don't fucking try.

Suck it up, save some time and money, fix yourself :) I don't look down on people for doing it, but I look up at myself for not. Besides, it's a willpower thing; if you can do this one little thing, than what else can you achieve? What's your limit? I haven't found mine yet....

Goodluck Boss :):)

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[QUOTE]One reason why cannabis is so appealing is because of the alkaloids in contains. Add more green leafy vegetables to your diet, which will provide a massive amount of nutrients and alkalinise the body, and you may find that your craving will dissolve. [edit]
[\QUOTE]

Cool. Didn't know that, and won't forget. Cheers :)

[edit] I've been putting on more muscle mass with my better eating and exercise, so won't refrain from anything, just eat more green vegies (which I have been tbh)

[supertzar]

What alkaloids are appealing in Cannabis?

[phildee3]

I always find these How Do I Cure My Weed Addiction threads a little pathetic. I know that sounds mean, but I just can't understand it. I have been smoking for twenty years and if I don't feel like smoking I just don't and I am fine. I have never had anything close to withdrawals. Never one twinge.



Nice to have someone else here that's the same as me on this.



The problem of not sleeping I can understand because Cannabis increases melatonin and I can see how someone might miss it if they are in a melatonin deficit.



I don't get this, though.

There's no way I can sleep when I'm high.
My mind is working overtime, coming up with ideas, and I just want to write, paint, play music, etc.

I guess it affects everyone differently.

[supertzar]

It doesn't necessarily put you to sleep, especially sativa, but it creates a huge increase in melatonin, something like 10 to 40 times.

[phildee3]

It doesn't necessarily put you to sleep, especially sativa, but it creates a huge increase in melatonin, something like 10 to 40 times.



...and melatonin is supposed to promote sleepiness, isn't it?

[supertzar]

That is my understanding. It probably explains the lack of dreams. The :DMarihauna Addict:D is sleeping so heavily it is not possible to recall them.

[phildee3]

That is my understanding. It probably explains the lack of dreams. The :DMarihauna Addict:D is sleeping so heavily it is not possible to recall them.



or maybe we have more dreamlike thoughts when we're high
so we don't need to dream so much when we're asleep.

It would be interesting to see an REM study on this...

[dmt head]

What a load of codswallop!
Cannabis is no more addictive than apple juice!

Maybe not for you, but for some it is an addiction. I know folks who go without food for weed, if thats not an addiction then I dont know what is. I used to be heavily addicted to it and if I didnt get it id be really anxious depressed and stressed out, it probably is mental but then so is crack!

I always find these How Do I Cure My Weed Addiction threads a little pathetic. I know that sounds mean, but I just can't understand it. I have been smoking for twenty years and if I don't feel like smoking I just don't and I am fine. I have never had anything close to withdrawals. Never one twinge. The problem of not sleeping I can understand because Cannabis increases melatonin and I can see how someone might miss it if they are in a melatonin deficit. You might try turning your lights off earlier in the night to get your body to make it.

As I said above were all different, some people can develop problems that is nothing short of addiction, I know many people like this.


I don't get this, though.

There's no way I can sleep when I'm high.
My mind is working overtime, coming up with ideas, and I just want to write, paint, play music, etc.

I guess it affects everyone differently.

Im the exact same, when I smoke weed, hash isnt as bad, but with weed I neevr smoke it after nine at night as I just wont be able to sleep at all mind works overtime.

[supertzar]

Crack is not "mental." It actually causes physiological damage to the brain. Where do you get your information? I would expect someone with a name like dmt head to be a little more with it.

[dmt head]

A drug counsellor told me that was the case, maybe I shouldnt listen to people. I couldnt beleive it when I heard it, stuck in my head though. Maybe im wrong :o

[phildee3]

Maybe not for you, but for some it is an addiction.



scatlond is right - there is physical addiction and there is psychological addiction (the habitual user thinks they need it).

Cannabis is not physically addictive!

If it is "psychologically addictive," the problem is not with cannabis but with the user!

[dmt head]

Agreed, but its still an addiction and its just as real as a physical addiction to the addict, and thats what some folks are when it comes to weed.

[debs67gb]

I dont smoke very much pot now and then , I did however give up drinking (overnight) but dont know how lol - just woke up and said no more. Your body will tell you when its time to let go ;-)

[phildee3]

Agreed, but its still an addiction and its just as real as a physical addiction to the addict,




Sure
but we're talking about quitting
and confronting a psychological addiction requires a totally different approach than a physical one.

That's where the distiction between them needs to be made.

[leeshort27]

"Marijuana is the odd drug out. To the early researchers, it did not look like it should be addictive. Nevertheless, for some people, it is. Recently, a group of Italian researchers succeeded in demonstrating that THC releases dopamine along the reward pathway, like all other drugs of abuse."


i would say its addictive, i been smokikg everyday for more than 10 years, and crave if i dont have it a ciggerette wont do so its not nicotine either, each person is different and addiction should be treated like that.

[phildee3]

"Marijuana is the odd drug out. To the early researchers, it did not look like it should be addictive. Nevertheless, for some people, it is. Recently, a group of Italian researchers succeeded in demonstrating that THC releases dopamine along the reward pathway, like all other drugs of abuse."

i would say its addictive, i been smokikg everyday for more than 10 years, and crave if i dont have it a ciggerette wont do so its not nicotine either, each person is different and addiction should be treated like that.



You obviously don't want to quit.
That's okay,
but those who do will not be able to if they have this attitude.

[alzee]

I'm almost 2 weeks into my quitting weed. I'm almost over the night sweats and oddly am not really craving it!

I've quit many many times over the years but always go back to it. This time, I feel strong and am enjoying sobriety much more than I ever did before :)

As some have said, it's what works for you that matters. For me, it was simply deciding that I'd finally had enough (been smoking for over 20 years).

When you're ready to quit, you will. Maybe this time is the one for you.

Good luck bud (pardon the pun).

[21_12_2012]

Good to see people quitting who feel like it's 'their time'.

It's definately a debatable subject, weed and 'addiction'

Whether it is 'only in the mind' (mental addiction) or not, there are definately
a large majority of smokers who never quit.

In fact, i don't know a single person from my circle of friends who has ever
quit, exept one guy who went to prison for 12 months and had no choice.

He started again the day he came out.

I quit in march 2006. I was a 20 year addict, and i did suffer withdrawals,
night sweats, crazy moods swings, months of nightmares, emotional
rollercoaster it was for about 12 months.

I've never touched it since, but even now i get the odd craving, which usually
disappears within a few seconds.

It's good to be among friends who smoke it when quitting, it tests your will
power to say no.

I even roll joints now and again for friends when they're too wrecked, and
it doesn't bother me not having any.

You know when it's 'your time'. And if you can 'take it or leave it' (which i
couldn't) then that's a good way to be.
Personally, i couldn't go 1 day without it. Or should that be 'wouldn't' go a
day without it !?

Anyway, keep strong if you're quitting, it pays off in time.

[supertzar]

I quit in march 2006. I was a 20 year addict, and i did suffer withdrawals,
night sweats, crazy moods swings, months of nightmares, emotional
rollercoaster it was for about 12 months.

That just blows my mind. How could it be so different for you than for me? Do you think it is possible that there was something wrong with your physiology such as a hormonal imbalance that Cannabis was helping you to cope with and it got exposed when you stopped?

[21_12_2012]

That just blows my mind. How could it be so different for you than for me? Do you think it is possible that there was something wrong with your physiology such as a hormonal imbalance that Cannabis was helping you to cope with and it got exposed when you stopped?

Funny you should mention that (well, funny now, but not then)

I believe i was suffering from a form of ADD (attention deficit disorder) due to
mercury/heavy metals from vaccines and mercury fillings.

I have had the fillings replaced, and been detoxing ever since, and improved
dramatically.

Maybe that was a factor in my drug use.

Another point is, whenever i took amphetamines, it made me feel 'normal',
which is what 'they' prescribe to ADHD and ADD kids (ritalin, adderal)

So yes, i think those are contributing factors as to why i was like i was,
and why it was hard giving it up.

Saying that though, i felt tonnes better after 12 months of giving up weed,
even before i sussed out the mercury thing. But i feel even more tonnes
better now.

[phildee3]

That just blows my mind. How could it be so different for you than for me?



I know.
Me too.
It makes me wonder if these people are real, or just shills!

[21_12_2012]

I know.
Me too.
It makes me wonder if these people are real, or just shills!

And vice versa.

[mephibosheth]

Just don't buy it.

Exactly! This is the one and only sure way to stop smoking weed. Its not like weed grows wild on trees and is constantly all around us that we simply can't avoid it like Brittney Spears on a magazine cover. Usually you gotta go out and get it. Stop doing that. Don't keep any weed around and you won't be able to smoke it.

Since weed is not physically addictive, there is no problem.

:cool:

[dmt head]

I know.
Me too.
It makes me wonder if these people are real, or just shills!

Are you serious?? Yes I am a shill to discredit the self rightous dope smokers :rolleyes:

And vice versa.

:D

[pri01]

I am really worried about my young son. I know he smokes weed and I have spoken to him about it because he is not motivated. He just wants to veg around, smoke, or whatever. He is 18 and says that we get on his back too much. Any suggestions are greatly apprectiated thanks.:(

[dmt head]

I am really worried about my young son. I know he smokes weed and I have spoken to him about it because he is not motivated. He just wants to veg around, smoke, or whatever. He is 18 and says that we get on his back too much. Any suggestions are greatly apprectiated thanks.:(

Reminds me of myself, sorry I dont have any help at all I was a nightmare for my mother, ended with her throwing me out the house when I was 23, 6 months later I gave it up, maybe throw him out lol Best thing that ever happened to me, giving up and being out on my own.

[phildee3]

I am really worried about my young son. I know he smokes weed and I have spoken to him about it because he is not motivated. He just wants to veg around,



That the Indica that does that.

Get him some high grade Sativa
in exchange for housework.

He'll probably do three times as much as he's asked to!

[abaddon]

I know.
Me too.
It makes me wonder if these people are real, or just shills!

Way to go, PHILDEE. A bloke makes a thread asking for help to rid 'HIS' ADDICTION, and you de-rail to argue that it's his fault, and not the weeds fault. Great help.

It's not the weed that's the problem.
It's the fucked up world.
All the jobs that there are, all the things that there are to do, they all just contribute to it's deterioration.

Find something for him to do that does the opposite -
that gives hope in place of despair.

That's a bit better :)

[leeshort27]

You obviously don't want to quit.
That's okay,
but those who do will not be able to if they have this attitude.


spot on! im not looking to quit, i was just saying that i believe that addiction is different for evreyone individually, and by looking at the later posts we can see that people have had completly different experiences in quitting.

[drael]

I am really worried about my young son. I know he smokes weed and I have spoken to him about it because he is not motivated. He just wants to veg around, smoke, or whatever. He is 18 and says that we get on his back too much. Any suggestions are greatly apprectiated thanks.

Lets just for a minute take weed out of the picture. Your son wants to veg around and is not motivated. He doesnt have a lust for life. Ignoring the pot, why? Has he been jilted by a lover, teased while in school - why do you think hed rather smoke than live?

I used to smoke pot, and i can tell you that it goes deeper than pot=lack of motivation. In fact its prolly more like lack of motivation=pot. it took me years to realise that i was being escapist, and the reasons for that desire to escape. It may take your son a similar amount of time, regardless of what u do....

What goes up, must come down. 90% of pot smokers quit before 30. And in the mean time, try and figure out what hes running from - in a genuine concerned manner. Hes 18 after all, his choices are his - but that doesnt stop you caring about him. Treat him as an equal, and it may open up a dialogue. Also, make peace with the fact that he must learn his own lessons.

And thats good advice on the passion thing. Theres alot of pointless crap in the world, its almost normal to get to 18 and think : no way! But a good hobby, (like for me, growing things and tai chi to relax) can put that purpose back in. Most smokers like philosophy, how bout some existentialism? Or skating or surfing for a rush. And a career that isnt a office desk job.....

See, if you take the weed out of the equation, u start looking at the cause....

[matt d]

Hi sorry if someone else has mentioned this coz i havent read every response.
But the thing that helped me pack it in was physical training , i started going along to a jujitsu class and found i was seriously struggling ,so i eventually packed the smoking in and felt i had 10 x more energy and nice clear lungs.
You need something to replace it ,like an insentive like getting fitter .
Of course there are fit people who smoke cannabis , but they could be a lot fitter without it . Thats just how i packed it in

[psych641]

i wanted to protect my lungs too, so i quit smoking cannabis a year ago. never looked back! :cool:


(the vapourizer & tinctures have been very helpful, i must admit :D )

[white horse]

I smoke it. I enjoy it. I know it does some good, though not for health reasons. I also know it can be bad.
I smoke cigs and dont like doing that. That is bad.

The best option is to smoke it pure without the tobacco.

Although, you want to quit. I guess the best way is to use NLP.

I find it hard to stop smoking cigarettes. Weed is easy to stop for me, but I enjoy it, so dont really want to. Wish you well.

I gave up a couple of years ago - now I just smoke some weed on a weekend whenI kick back with a few beers. Not every weekend, it's a treat not a habit.

The key is tobacco. I gave up tobacco about 6 years ago, and smoked weed pure (in a pipe).

Tobacco is harder to give up than weed. Nicotine is a chemical addiction - like heroin, your body needs it to feel normal. It is also a psychological addiction as well as a stress buster.

Try giving up baccy and smoke weed pure - don't go total cold turkey on the weed.

The first 72 hours without tobacco are crazy. Get through that wall, and then you got a 3 week hell ride! Cos niccotine is a nerve supressant, without it all your nerver endings and pain receptors will be hyper sensitive. This lasts about 3 weeks adn the only way to releive this is with more niccotine! Don't be tempted -you just gotta use you will power to ride it.

That is my advice, don't give up both -but try togive up niccotine by smoking weed pure, and try to smoke it a little, not a lot.

Also if you do give up cigarettes, don't be tempte to just have one to relieve the tension, cos that will reset teh clock and you'll have to start again!

Good luck! :D

[phildee3]

i wanted to protect my lungs too, so i quit smoking cannabis a year ago. never looked back! :cool:


(the vapourizer & tinctures have been very helpful, i must admit :D )



With really pure, high grade bud, all it takes is one hit. That lasts me a good five or six hours (working flat out without a break).
Hardly devastating on the lungs!

I got to wondering if those folks here who claim to be addicts are not actually smoking crap - with addictive additives.
Just a thought.

[abaddon]

With really pure, high grade bud, all it takes is one hit. That lasts me a good five or six hours (working flat out without a break).
Hardly devastating on the lungs!

I got to wondering if those folks here who claim to be addicts are not actually smoking crap - with addictive additives. Which is besides the point of the thread, as my first post hinted atJust a thought.

You know what? Goodluck to the OP, Openmind, on his personal quest to change and clean his personal problem. I wish him the best of luck.

With 5+ posts, Phildee, you've offered no help in a HELP thread, and done nothing but critisize on your high horse. And have no intention of quitting, rather promoting. I'm disappointed. You should be ashamed for hijacking, calling 'shills', and being a deadbeat.

Just a thought.

[psych641]

With really pure, high grade bud, all it takes is one hit. That lasts me a good five or six hours (working flat out without a break).
Hardly devastating on the lungs!

I got to wondering if those folks here who claim to be addicts are not actually smoking crap - with addictive additives.
Just a thought.

Yeah, good point. The best way to smoke is to make a clean extract like bubble-hash - that way you can eliminate virtually all the contaminants & get a full hit off one tiny particle.

The advantage of good vapes is you can play about with the temperature & get slightly different effects from the same weed. (the main reason i switched though was to minimize the risk of polymer fume fever/perm.lung damage from inhaling bits of burnt teflon)

I have discovered though that the disadvantage of being a vape-only toker, is if you forget to top up the leccy meter or manage to smash the glass components, no vape! :o

[phildee3]

You know what? Goodluck to the OP, Openmind, on his personal quest to change and clean his personal problem. I wish him the best of luck.

With 5+ posts, Phildee, you've offered no help in a HELP thread, and done nothing but critisize on your high horse. And have no intention of quitting, rather promoting. I'm disappointed. You should be ashamed for hijacking, calling 'shills', and being a deadbeat.

Just a thought.



Up yours, jackass!
I can't quit 'cause I'm not smoking it.
Haven't seen any for months!
I'm not promoting. I couldn't care less if others smoke it or not.
I'm working long shifts so I'm not a "deadbeat"
and I've offered a number of alternatives to the many ways to quit that have been posted - how to stay as healthy as possible should one choose not to.

You're the one that's "promoting" -
Promoting abstinance.

I have more respect for people's freedom to choose for themselves.

[phildee3]

Yeah, good point. The best way to smoke is to make a clean extract like bubble-hash - that way you can eliminate virtually all the contaminants & get a full hit off one tiny particle.



There's no doubt that vaping is the cleanest, healthiest way to go.

It's a bit hi-tech for me, though.

Either way, you gotta start with pure material, lovingly cultivated.
And to avoid the couch potato syndrome, stay away from the indica.
Outdoor grown sativa is best.

[phildee3]

I couldn't care less if others smoke it or not.



...but I do care about y'all staying healthy.

You can't do that if you're smoking illuminati poisoned crap.
Good luck to those of you who are addicted to it and are wanting to quit.

From my experience,
I think that pure, homegrown bud might help you off of it.

But what do I know??

[abaddon]

...but I do care about y'all staying healthy.

You can't do that if you're smoking illuminati poisoned crap.
Good luck to those of you who are addicted to it and are wanting to quit.

From my experience,
I think that pure, homegrown bud might help you off of it.

But what do I know??

Awesome. Should have been your 1st post. Love it, from the heart. I must've hit something ;)

Deatbeat was wrong context, I meant asshole but now withdraw that statement. (I knew you worked due to an earlier comment, although didn't know you were pot-free as you didn't seem to use past tense.)

I'm passionate about this subject and feel you attended this thread with the wrong attitude, and that frustrated me because I planned to use this material to help others.

Peace :)

[phildee3]

Awesome. Should have been your 1st post. Love it, from the heart. I must've hit something ;)

Deatbeat was wrong context, I meant asshole but now withdraw that statement. (I knew you worked due to an earlier comment, although didn't know you were pot-free as you didn't seem to use past tense.)

I'm passionate about this subject and feel you attended this thread with the wrong attitude, and that frustrated me because I planned to use this material to help others.

Peace :)



Wow.
You've surprised me.

We need legalisation to ensure purity.
As long as there's a black market, people are getting poisoned.
I won't touch that street crap.

Wish I was back in California!

[keenly]

smoke weed everday baby baby

weed is GOOD for you