Reptoids, our rightful rulers?

[whatistruth]

Were we created by aliens?

Are those aliens reptilians from draco?

Are they the annunaki?



If the alternative theory about human evolution can be assumed to be true, or the mainline theory proved to be false, and we came from somewhere else and were either brought here or created here from a lower homo sapian species, does that not make our creators our gods?
For without them, we might not even exist.

Does them genetically engineering us mean we're from that soulgroup, if soulgroups exist, or if souls even exist?
If we were genetically engineered, do we even have souls?


I think its possible we were created as a slave race, by these 'reptoids', the origins of every religion on the world talks of serpent gods.
The symbology is there even in christianity.

I think we need to recognize our creators as our rightful rulers.
It's all very well bashing them on the internet, but when they reveal themselfs in the public eye, or arrive in 2012, you will fall down on your knees and worship them.
Those non-believers will be forced to toil in the underground caves to mine the gold and other minerals for our new overlords.

If reptoids are real, and I believe they were, we need to give them their due credit and help them in thanks for creating us.

[marpat]

I doubt it, even Icke is saying that they are only projections.

[novymir]

That's what "they" would like us to think.
The body is not who or what we are. We are Creative Energy Beings.
No, "they" cannot create Life. They only have a weak link to the Source of Life, which is why they need to steal our energy. They decieve and corrupt.
They are in opposition to the True Creator. They are intruders. We are far more powerful than "them" if only we can break through the deception, and the only way to do that is through awareness and Trust in the Creative Spirit within, and everywhere.

[oceano]

Even if such suppositions were true, them bio-engineering the body we now inhabit is irrelevant. No entity is our ruler. If you perceive yourself to be your body, then yeah, you could say they are your ruler for they created you/ your body. However if you know yourself to be an eternal entity which is having a physical experience in a human body spacesuit then you will bow down to no one for you know the destruction of that body is immaterial to the continuation of your eternal being.

[spiraltrance]

That's what "they" would like us to think.
The body is not who or what we are. We are Creative Energy Beings.
No, "they" cannot create Life. They only have a weak link to the Source of Life, which is why they need to steal our energy.

Good point but in a similar humans currently behave exactly the same way towards animals we need for energy such as sheep, cows and chickens. We percieve the repitlians as evil yet i'm sure many creatures on this planet view us as being equaly evil.

They decieve and corrupt. They are in opposition to the True Creator. They are intruders. We are far more powerful than "them" if only we can break through the deception, and the only way to do that is through awareness and Trust in the Creative Spirit within, and everywhere.

Yes we can break free of there lies and deception but we also have to break free of the lies and deception within us. I'm in two minds as to whether the reptilians are truly a cause or an effect of the cause. Though I don't dispute that if it is us who's in ignorance they'll do everything they can to maintain us in ignaroance.

[coshh]

http://www.upmyownass.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/simpsons-kent-brochman-hail-ants-welcome-overlords.jpg

[oceano]

Good point but in a similar humans currently behave exactly the same way towards animals we need for energy such as sheep, cows and chickens. We percieve the repitlians as evil yet i'm sure many creatures on this planet view us as being equaly evil.


I must admit I'm ashamed by my participation in the creation of concentration camps, torture and eventual killing off of other species on this planet in the name of self sustenance. By what right can we complain if a more advanced species is doing the same to us ? We deal with our dark & greedy impulses by invoking sentience. Oh no the other species are not sentient! They do not feel pain! They were created for our pleasure. When I take a step back and observe what we are doing to these other species on a daily basis I'm appalled. It is then that I realise humans are FAR FAR from being enlightened! The abuse we get from the reptilians/NWO is nothing compared to the abuse we dish out to the other species with which we share this planet. I'm hugely disappointed in us all!

[lordzoma]

By right of the body, we are the rightful heirs of this planet.

[rhydra]

I must admit I'm ashamed by my participation in the creation of concentration camps, torture and eventual killing off of other species on this planet in the name of self sustenance. By what right can we complain if a more advanced species is doing the same to us ? We deal with our dark & greedy impulses by invoking sentience. Oh no the other species are not sentient! They do not feel pain! They were created for our pleasure. When I take a step back and observe what we are doing to these other species on a daily basis I'm appalled. It is then that I realise humans are FAR FAR from being enlightened! The abuse we get from the reptilians/NWO is nothing compared to the abuse we dish out to the other species with which we share this planet. I'm hugely disappointed in us all!

I agree.

[haukipesukone]

http://www.upmyownass.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/simpsons-kent-brochman-hail-ants-welcome-overlords.jpg

Lolz. Is that the episode where Homer becomes an astronaut?

[coshh]

Lolz. Is that the episode where Homer becomes an astronaut?

Yes.

[sophia_h]

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when we chose to come here to play
we had NO bodies

we were pure spirit without form

we tried various forms
over many millinea we got addicted to the forms
and got stuck in some

when various visitors came at various times the forms
we were in were wide open and avail for experimenting
some visitors were kind and raised our abilities to rise above
the forms we were stuck in


we created great civilizations working with some AB's
( Advanced Beings)

Rogue planet controllers were ATTRACTED here to plunder
the amazing minerals our planet holds

Earth has undergone many destructions and resurrections
each one was created by the COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUS
of our SOUL GROUP

we are makingup our school as we move along a linear track
as we get tired and look off track to where other possibilities
exist we will figure how to move vertically , angular, and spirallic
to try a variety of schools where growth is not so painful

Then our more BALANCED collective consciousess will cause
TYRANNY to dissolve and disappear so we can manifest
the Garden in our here and now

a much more pleasant school, dont you think?

so its all up to you and me..
but we have been told that often.

ain't we the stubborn ones ?

:rolleyes:

.

[michael christopher]

Where do you get the idea that because something created us that we have to look at it as a "god" or take orders from it?

[novymir]

Good point but in a similar humans currently behave exactly the same way towards animals we need for energy such as sheep, cows and chickens. We percieve the repitlians as evil yet i'm sure many creatures on this planet view us as being equaly evil.



Yes we can break free of there lies and deception but we also have to break free of the lies and deception within us. I'm in two minds as to whether the reptilians are truly a cause or an effect of the cause. Though I don't dispute that if it is us who's in ignorance they'll do everything they can to maintain us in ignaroance.

We don't *need* that energy, and I do not use it. See this post:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=722495&postcount=33
And this thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47445

[measle_weasel]

Were we created by aliens?

Are those aliens reptilians from draco?

Are they the annunaki?

If the alternative theory about human evolution can be assumed to be true, or the mainline theory proved to be false, and we came from somewhere else and were either brought here or created here from a lower homo sapian species, does that not make our creators our gods?
For without them, we might not even exist.

The form you occupy at this time is irrelevant to whether you exist or not. Your soul is eternal, as is everyone elses, all of which were created by the same Creator.

Does them genetically engineering us mean we're from that soulgroup, if soulgroups exist, or if souls even exist?
If we were genetically engineered, do we even have souls?

If you have free will, and with that, sentience, you have a soul.

Do you have free will, and do you know you exist?

I think we need to recognize our creators as our rightful rulers.
It's all very well bashing them on the internet, but when they reveal themselfs in the public eye, or arrive in 2012, you will fall down on your knees and worship them.
Those non-believers will be forced to toil in the underground caves to mine the gold and other minerals for our new overlords.

Lol. To be a slave is a choice that each individual makes for themselves. I will choose to reject the offer of slavery, and be my own master.

But youre free to be a slave, if you want. Free will :)

If reptoids are real, and I believe they were, we need to give them their due credit and help them in thanks for creating us.

"Reptoids" are irrelevant. If you want to thank the Creator for making your soul, and giving you a piece of itself in the process (free will), then just be happy. Thats why all sentience was created, to be happy. If being a slave makes you happy, then by all means, do it. But just know exactly what the consequences of your choices are going to be.

[measle_weasel]

Good point but in a similar humans currently behave exactly the same way towards animals we need for energy such as sheep, cows and chickens. We percieve the repitlians as evil yet i'm sure many creatures on this planet view us as being equaly evil.

Only those who are ignorant to the fact that form is irrelevant when quantifying the spirit, "behave" in the exact same way towards animals. Some have compassion for "lower" species, especially those who know that the form you occupy does not necessarily say anything about the spirit. That cow that some stupid human is about to slaughter, who is thought of as nothing more than property, could be one of the most intelligent and powerful creatures in the universe. But from the narrow, limited, and ignorant prespective of the human, it appears to be just a cow.

[novymir]

I must admit I'm ashamed by my participation in the creation of concentration camps, torture and eventual killing off of other species on this planet in the name of self sustenance. By what right can we complain if a more advanced species is doing the same to us ? We deal with our dark & greedy impulses by invoking sentience. Oh no the other species are not sentient! They do not feel pain! They were created for our pleasure. When I take a step back and observe what we are doing to these other species on a daily basis I'm appalled. It is then that I realise humans are FAR FAR from being enlightened! The abuse we get from the reptilians/NWO is nothing compared to the abuse we dish out to the other species with which we share this planet. I'm hugely disappointed in us all!

We just have to practice what we preach, to the best of our abilities, at whatever point of awareness we are at. Knowing if something conflicts with the Creative Spirit of Love-Forgiveness-LIFE=TRUTH within, it is ERROR.

[whatistruth]

measle_weasel, can you give me any information on what your saying?

It appears your saying we're all 'one', and we will exist forever and never die.
So how could this 'creator' give itself (me) free will?
That makes little to no sense.

Did this creator also make reptoids?

You also appear to have the idea that if i have free will, i have a soul, that will exist after my body dies.
I hope this to be the case as not existing seems pretty scary to me.
But who or what created the body?
Who is the higher authority on this plane of existence...the reptoids.


And to whoever posted the simpsons pic, sharp, real sharp. :p

[michael christopher]

measle_weasel, can you give me any information on what your saying?

It appears your saying we're all 'one', and we will exist forever and never die.
So how could this 'creator' give itself (me) free will?
That makes little to no sense.

Did this creator also make reptoids?

You also appear to have the idea that if i have free will, i have a soul, that will exist after my body dies.
I hope this to be the case as not existing seems pretty scary to me.
But who or what created the body?
Who is the higher authority on this plane of existence...the reptoids.


And to whoever posted the simpsons pic, sharp, real sharp. :p

It is clear by your words that you simply do not understand the power of your own mind. Nothing is above you or below you. Although some beings would like you to believe they are your rightful rulers, you are righteously your own god as you have always been meant to be. We are active co-creators in the universe, not slaves to hierarchy. Nothing can ever own the individual. Only if the individual chooses not to own himself, can something else ever claim ownership (although that is always easily revoked by the individual).

[measle_weasel]

measle_weasel, can you give me any information on what your saying?

It appears your saying we're all 'one', and we will exist forever and never die.
So how could this 'creator' give itself (me) free will?
That makes little to no sense.

I dont believe we are all one. Nor I believe we are the Creator. Where did you get these impressions?

Did this creator also make reptoids?

Yes.

You also appear to have the idea that if i have free will, i have a soul, that will exist after my body dies.
I hope this to be the case as not existing seems pretty scary to me.
But who or what created the body?Who is the higher authority on this plane of existence...the reptoids.

You are in charge of yourself, no one else can make you do something you dont want to do, without impinging on your free will, which I believe has major penalties, possibly penalties that are designed to always outweigh any benefit gained, thus making it something that rarely, if ever, occurs.

If you give someone authority over you of your own free will, then they do infact have that authority. But you dont have to give anyone any authority if you dont want to. Whoever TPTB are, have deceived many into thinking as you are right now. Ultimately, you are a sovereign being who always chooses its own destiny. Even if you choose to give someone else the ability to make choices for you and decide your destiny, that is done of your own free will, thus you are still choosing your own destiny. Somewhat of a paradox.

[armoured_amazon]

No, they're not our rightful rulers. Not mine, anyhoo.

[krakhead]

No-one is anyone else's rightful ruler.

[turbine]

Were we created by aliens?

Are those aliens reptilians from draco?

Are they the annunaki?



If the alternative theory about human evolution can be assumed to be true, or the mainline theory proved to be false, and we came from somewhere else and were either brought here or created here from a lower homo sapian species, does that not make our creators our gods?
For without them, we might not even exist.

Does them genetically engineering us mean we're from that soulgroup, if soulgroups exist, or if souls even exist?
If we were genetically engineered, do we even have souls?


I think its possible we were created as a slave race, by these 'reptoids', the origins of every religion on the world talks of serpent gods.
The symbology is there even in christianity.

I think we need to recognize our creators as our rightful rulers.
It's all very well bashing them on the internet, but when they reveal themselfs in the public eye, or arrive in 2012, you will fall down on your knees and worship them.
Those non-believers will be forced to toil in the underground caves to mine the gold and other minerals for our new overlords.

If reptoids are real, and I believe they were, we need to give them their due credit and help them in thanks for creating us.

My god...

1. We we're NOT created by aliens. Just genetically manipulated.

2. Are they from Alpha draconis? Some of them are. Their elite I believe.

3. More importantly, we don't create them as projections. They are very much real and they've cut our connection from god off and caused hell on this earth. We're part of god (ie our souls) but they aren't as they had their love taken away when they rebelled again god. Only the tares of society are part of the reptilian soul group.

Seriously, it seems you've been mindwashed by someone/something.


And as for worshipping them, I can't stress how wrong that is. They should be hated and shouldn't be worshipped in the slightest as they are the bastard that have caused our race so much pain in the past. The reason their symbology is in religion is because they created them. Or at least made them into disinformation to confuse as well as divide and conquer us to be slaves.

[rhydra]

Replilians have implanted mankind with the fatal flaw that he cannot accept his own weaknesses, he has to blame them on someone, or something else.

because they know that when man cannot face up to his own mistakes he makes them again and again and again.

Rather like the fellow that keeps hitting his thumb with a hammer, it's not his fault, it's the fault of those darn reptiles, bang! See it happened again pesky reppies! ;)

[measle_weasel]

3. More importantly, we don't create them as projections. They are very much real and they've cut our connection from god off and caused hell on this earth. We're part of god (ie our souls) but they aren't as they had their love taken away when they rebelled again god. Only the tares of society are part of the reptilian soul group.

"Their love", as in the love given to them, or love able to be given by them?

Either way, some external force removing their capacity for anything, would be a violation of their free will, thus a crime in which the taker would have to atone for at some point. This makes me think that their capacity for love, as individual souls, was never removed.

Seriously, it seems you've been mindwashed by someone/something.

Maybe she/he/it is just at a different point in their spiritual developement than you are. The important thing is that the OP is engaging in discussion with others about their own beliefs, signifying they are are in the process of questioning those beliefs, and wanting to come closer to truth.

And as for worshipping them, I can't stress how wrong that is. They should be hated and shouldn't be worshipped in the slightest as they are the bastard that have caused our race so much pain in the past. The reason their symbology is in religion is because they created them. Or at least made them into disinformation to confuse as well as divide and conquer us to be slaves.

Nothing should be hated. Any hate in your soul is like lead that will weigh you down, and prevent, or at least make it very difficult, for you to rise above your current spiritual state. And isnt that exactly what TPTB want you to do? By hating the elite, you incapacitate yourself, and you serve them, though indirectly.

[measle_weasel]

Replilians have implanted mankind with the fatal flaw that he cannot accept his own weaknesses, he has to blame them on someone, or something else.

because they know that when man cannot face up to his own mistakes he makes them again and again and again.

QFT.

Humans inability to accept responsibility for their own free will actions and the consequences those free will actions lead to, is legendary.

[rhydra]

QFT.

Humans inability to accept responsibility for their own free will actions and the consequences those free will actions lead to, is legendary.

Hence repeats of history, WW1 followed by WW2 and inevitably by WW3. One would have thought that they would have learnt after the first one, but no.

[alzee]

I am my own man - I accept no-one as my ruler, rightful or otherwise.

[measle_weasel]

Hence repeats of history, WW1 followed by WW2 and inevitably by WW3. One would have thought that they would have learnt after the first one, but no.

Indeed. But humanity as a whole cannot be solely blamed, and responsibility for major events should be mitigated moderately, or even majorly, by the fact that those they had/have placed their trust into, have abused that trust, and done things that the public would have opposed, if they had known all the true facts about a situation. For instance, WW1... how many soldiers, on any side, were thinking about whether the illuminati orchestrated the whole thing, or not? They were made to falsely believe their was a threat to their country, and to their follow countrymen. Ignorant of the facts, those soldiers are not responsible for the deaths they caused, but those who manipulated the situation, are. And they are the ones who bear the full responsibility for all the death, suffering, and pain of that war, and any other situation they manipulated that caused such.

Im betting the vast majority of those public and soldiers in WW1 were truly ignorant of the facts. Unfortunetly, today, I dont believe that is the case. I think most of the public and the soldiers, especially in the west, are not truly ignorant, but willfully ignorant... which does not mitigate responsibility very much, if at all.

Thats a major part in this fight, getting people to take off the blinders, and realize the world is not as it seems, and that compliance through willful ignorance makes you just as culpable as those who are compliant through full knowledge of the consequences.

[rhydra]

I am my own man - I accept no-one as my ruler, rightful or otherwise.

No one has the right to rule over someone else, mankind seems to be the most adept at keeping his own down, unfortunately, mankind also seems to be adept at keeping himself down. Don't let it happen to you.

[alzee]

No one has the right to rule over someone else, mankind seems to be the most adept at keeping his own down, unfortunately, mankind also seems to be adept at keeping himself down. Don't let it happen to you.

I agree, unfortunately. Mankind is indeed very good at keeping themselves down, whether through war, religion, politics, downright nastiness, whatever.

On the plus side, there are also many people out there who want to see mankind realise its full potential. People who will fight against the tyranny imposed on us by the so-called 'rulers', and people who will show the 'asleep' ones amongst us that there's a better way. I count myself and many others amongst that group.

No-one's putting me down ;)

[netta]

I must admit I'm ashamed by my participation in the creation of concentration camps, torture and eventual killing off of other species on this planet in the name of self sustenance. By what right can we complain if a more advanced species is doing the same to us ? We deal with our dark & greedy impulses by invoking sentience. Oh no the other species are not sentient! They do not feel pain! They were created for our pleasure. When I take a step back and observe what we are doing to these other species on a daily basis I'm appalled. It is then that I realise humans are FAR FAR from being enlightened! The abuse we get from the reptilians/NWO is nothing compared to the abuse we dish out to the other species with which we share this planet. I'm hugely disappointed in us all!
I agree as well.

Where do you get the idea that because something created us that we have to look at it as a "god" or take orders from it?
That idea probably stemmed from what most other religions seem to encourage: to worship their creator.

[coshh]

I agree as well.


That idea probably stemmed from what most other religions seem to encourage: to worship their creator.

I worship my creator in the sense that I praise Him for creating me, being so full of gladness to have been created.

[armoured_amazon]

I worship my creator in the sense that I praise Him for creating me, being so full of gladness to have been created.

+1

[netta]

I worship my creator in the sense that I praise Him for creating me, being so full of gladness to have been created.

Ok cool. So if you were created by reptilians, would you worship them? Would you praise them for creating you?

[simmo]

Ok cool. So if you were created by reptilians, would you worship them? Would you praise them for creating you?

Though not directed at me, here is my response to that question:

It would depend on what my creators (the reptilians for the sake of this question) are up to these days! If they're busy still creating great things and generally making the world a great place to be then yes I would probably worship/hold them in high esteem.

However if they were a bunch of sadistic bastards, then no I would not worship them, creator or not. It's just like a child that grows to hate his parents, whether they created him or not does not matter, if they abuse the child in any way the child will hate them, if they love the child, the child will more than likely be in awe of their parents forever.

[coshh]

Though not directed at me, here is my response to that question:

It would depend on what my creators (the reptilians for the sake of this question) are up to these days! If they're busy still creating great things and generally making the world a great place to be then yes I would probably worship/hold them in high esteem.

However if they were a bunch of sadistic bastards, then no I would not worship them, creator or not. It's just like a child that grows to hate his parents, whether they created him or not does not matter, if they abuse the child in any way the child will hate them, if they love the child, the child will more than likely be in awe of their parents forever.
Well if reptilians exist, they are creatures themselves.
My creator is the Creator. Without Him its not like things would exist and be better. Without Him there would be nothing.

[turbine]

"Their love", as in the love given to them, or love able to be given by them?

Either way, some external force removing their capacity for anything, would be a violation of their free will, thus a crime in which the taker would have to atone for at some point. This makes me think that their capacity for love, as individual souls, was never removed.

They we offered love by god but rejected it. They chose to sin and to cause pain other other races/creatures.

Maybe she/he/it is just at a different point in their spiritual developement than you are. The important thing is that the OP is engaging in discussion with others about their own beliefs, signifying they are are in the process of questioning those beliefs, and wanting to come closer to truth.

Maybe so. But anyone who thinks that worshiping reptiles or snakes really needs a wakeup call if you ask me.

Nothing should be hated. Any hate in your soul is like lead that will weigh you down, and prevent, or at least make it very difficult, for you to rise above your current spiritual state. And isnt that exactly what TPTB want you to do? By hating the elite, you incapacitate yourself, and you serve them, though indirectly.

I do agree with what your saying there but if were to have seen or had any other the horribly crimes done to you, you certainly wouldn't be saying that, or at least have a different view about it.

[measle_weasel]

I do agree with what your saying there but if were to have seen or had any other the horribly crimes done to you, you certainly wouldn't be saying that, or at least have a different view about it.

How do you know that no horrible crime was done to me, and that despite that fact, I still have the opinion I do?

You have no idea of my history, nor anyone elses history, unless they have explicitly told you of it. Of which, I have not done, so unless you have extreme psychic powers, beyond what most people would think possible, and are capable of entering my mind with no resistance and learning everything there is to know about me... do not tell me, nor anyone else, what we would do based on a foundationless assumption of our individual histories.

[turbine]

How do you know that no horrible crime was done to me, and that despite that fact, I still have the opinion I do?

You have no idea of my history, nor anyone elses history, unless they have explicitly told you of it. Of which, I have not done, so unless you have extreme psychic powers, beyond what most people would think possible, and are capable of entering my mind with no resistance and learning everything there is to know about me... do not tell me, nor anyone else, what we would do based on a foundationless assumption of our individual histories.

Well clearly, if you were tortured by them you wouldn't be trying to appear so pieceful. Or at least you'd admit to have a strong disliking at least.

[measle_weasel]

Well clearly, if you were tortured by them you wouldn't be trying to appear so pieceful. Or at least you'd admit to have a strong disliking at least.

There you go again, telling me what I would do if something happened to me. Again, how the heck do you know with certainty, what I, or anyone else on this forum, would do in ANY particular situation, regardless of what that situation was?

You dont.

Each and everyone of us has free will, and one aspect of free will is that someone who has it, cannot with absolute certainty be predicted. Otherwise, it wouldnt be free will. So stop talking in absolutes about what I would do, because you have no idea who I am, how I would respond to such a situation, nor the effect it would have on me, or anyone else for that matter. Talk for yourself only.

[shenoma]

Right is Might and look at how we are doing.
By right of the body, we are the rightful heirs of this planet.

[lordzoma]

Worship gives away power.

When you worship anything other than yourself you give away the power of yourself, and that CLEARLY pegs you as being no higher than mid-high advanced spiritually.

It does not surprise me in the least that lightsiders are quick to throw words like 'worship' around when dealing with the reptilians or other aliens.

Go worship technology a little more. I, for one, pass.

[michael christopher]

Worship gives away power.

When you worship anything other than yourself you give away the power of yourself, and that CLEARLY pegs you as being no higher than mid-high advanced spiritually.

It does not surprise me in the least that lightsiders are quick to throw words like 'worship' around when dealing with the reptilians or other aliens.

Go worship technology a little more. I, for one, pass.

I agree with you, and it seems like a pretty obvious deduction to me. Why don't we use our energy to cleanse ourselves and to help ourselves grow, why must we give it away? It makes very little sense. I guess a lot of "worshipers" don't really believe in energy however.

When we think anything in the universe has the power to kill us or maim us - then we give that being/entity/force that we deem more powerful the power over us. It seems like common sense to say "Well, of course the reptilians could kill us!" but when we think that, we make it true. It is like we are giving them the authority to kill us or abuse us whenever they want to - and if we think this for reptilians, anything that controls reptilians controls us by proxy. Judeo-Christians who worship the demi-urge are giving all forces of the demi-urge the right to walk in and possess, torture, kill... The same with any other religion. Nothing is greater than we are, nothing is less than we are.

CONTROL YOURSELVES PEOPLE!

[coshh]

When we think anything in the universe has the power to kill us or maim us - then we give that being/entity/force that we deem more powerful the power over us. It seems like common sense to say "Well, of course the reptilians could kill us!" but when we think that, we make it true.By that logic the fact that I think an all powerful being who loves and cares about creation more than any human can concieve of loving has ultimate power over everything makes it true.
I think that the idea thinking something makes it true is absurd, but in the off chance I am wrong, I am cool with that.

[michael christopher]

By that logic the fact that I think an all powerful being who loves and cares about creation more than any human can concieve of loving has ultimate power over everything makes it true.
I think that the idea thinking something makes it true is absurd, but in the off chance I am wrong, I am cool with that.

You can think it is absurd all that you want. ^_^

I stand behind what I said. This universe operates entirely on free will. Those things that wish to do us harm can only get away with it with our spiritual consent. Once we connect with our spirits again, we can decide what to consent to. Otherwise, when our egos control our actions, our egos control our fate.

[lordzoma]

Believing in something absolutely makes it true. Belief = power.

The only thing is --- that belief does not necessarily make it physically true.

Go ahead, believe that you have a hamburger in your hand. It's not going to mystically appear in your hand no matter how hard you believe.

Energy goes where the mind sends it, and in the case of worship - belief sends the energy into the astral.

It's in the astral, in the 4th density and higher, that belief = reality.

By believing in an all loving deity or a lightning throwing badass god, either way the belief is going to create an astral version of your belief.

Just keep in mind when you stop believing in that person, they are going to slowly fade away into nothingness.

In this sense if enough people got together and believed in Jesus, which they have, an astral version of Jesus is going to appear with power and with appearance, even though it is likened to an illusion that only exists because there are people who believe it does.

In this sense one can travel into the astral and meet people like Jesus, and Buddha, and interact with them, or travel to the seven heavens or to the Elysium fields because belief and worship has given tremendous power to them.

All religious structures that force people to believe operate on a level more advanced than the mere physical. Belief structures are designed to channel and funnel the energy of the worshippers like good little drones into a location in the astral that utilizes the energy for whatever purpose.

Typically these purposes are either LIGHT or they are DARK.

People get uppity when I bring up polarity, but the simple matter of fact, is that polarity is the major driving force between everything in 3d and even in 4d. Try to say it doesn't exist and you're deluding yourself. You need to understand the existence of polarity in order to master it and balance oneself completely, or at the very least, begin to approach that balance with life long dedication and effort.

Believe in yourself, and you will empower yourself, if not physically, then astrally. It is indeed the truest way to be true to one self.

[sloughi]

When the Reptiles return they will attempt to destroy 75% of earth's population and subject the rest to their control. They will have no choice but to worship them.;) Between 2014-1014, you will see.

[rhydra]

When the Reptiles return they will attempt to destroy 75% of earth's population and subject the rest to their control. They will have no choice but to worship them.;) Between 2014-1014, you will see.

They'll have to be quick before earth's population beats them to it, and then some.;)

[michael christopher]

When the Reptiles return they will attempt to destroy 75% of earth's population and subject the rest to their control. They will have no choice but to worship them.;) Between 2014-1014, you will see.

Assuming that the highly unlikely event of a reptilian takeover were to ever occur (highly doubtful) I would rather die than worship anything.

[measle_weasel]

When the Reptiles return they will attempt to destroy 75% of earth's population and subject the rest to their control. They will have no choice but to worship them.;) Between 2014-1014, you will see.

There is always a choice to be made.

[turbine]

There you go again, telling me what I would do if something happened to me. Again, how the heck do you know with certainty, what I, or anyone else on this forum, would do in ANY particular situation, regardless of what that situation was?

You dont.

Each and everyone of us has free will, and one aspect of free will is that someone who has it, cannot with absolute certainty be predicted. Otherwise, it wouldnt be free will. So stop talking in absolutes about what I would do, because you have no idea who I am, how I would respond to such a situation, nor the effect it would have on me, or anyone else for that matter. Talk for yourself only.

Look. Its perfectly natural for people to dislike certain things. But if you, or anyone else, were tortured, its only common sense you wouldn't be too loving at those who done it to you.

You're trying to make it seem that I know everything, when I don't. I never said I did. But in reality, even god hates certain things. Sinners especially.

[michael christopher]

You're trying to make it seem that I know everything, when I don't. I never said I did. But in reality, even god hates certain things. Sinners especially.

That is a very antiquated opinion, you'd probably find millions if not at least a billion people or more who completely disagree with you. If God is everything, God hates nothing.

[turbine]

That is a very antiquated opinion, you'd probably find millions if not at least a billion people or more who completely disagree with you. If God is everything, God hates nothing.

I'm not saying god is hateful at all. He's the most loving entity in existence. But I know enough to say he doesn't particularly like the Reptilian race. That is all before my words are twisted around.

[element]

I'm not saying god is hateful at all. But I know enough to say he doesn't particularly like the Reptilian race. That is all before my words are twisted around.

How can God even hate or love, for that matter? If he loves us so much he should remove the reptilians and other chaos out of our world.
The only truth can be that god is not a person on a throne creating souls everyday out of his pocket, but rather god is just the spiritual lifeforce behind all things. Things that were never created, but just experience(various forms). :eek: :cool:

[michael christopher]

I'm not saying god is hateful at all. But I know enough to say he doesn't particularly like the Reptilian race. That is all before my words are twisted around.

You don't know that at all, you are looking at god from a very dualistic perspective. God is not a "god of light" it is a god of everything. Which means it doesn't make mistakes, which means it hates no one. We don't know anything about reptilians anyway except for the few which make themselves known to us, and even that might just be human psychology creating explanations for irrational behavior.

I really don't think God hates anything, God loves everything if God is love.

[turbine]

How can God even hate or love, for that matter? If he loves us so much he should remove the reptilians and other chaos out of our world.
The only truth can be that god is not a person on a throne creating souls everyday out of his pocket, but rather god is just the spiritual lifeforce behind all things. Things that were never created, but just experience(various forms). :eek: :cool:

We are all part of the One (god). He does love things and he isn't how he's described in the Bible. Oh and yes, he and she are currently removing the reptilians.

You don't know that at all, you are looking at god from a very dualistic perspective. God is not a "god of light" it is a god of everything. Which means it doesn't make mistakes, which means it hates no one. We don't know anything about reptilians anyway except for the few which make themselves known to us, and even that might just be human psychology creating explanations for irrational behavior.

I really don't think God hates anything, God loves everything if God is love.

Actually, yes I do.

God is a positive force and it's only because the reptilians have shut us off from him is why there is so much anarchy here in this world. The reptilians aren't here as a manifestation of our minds. That's all disinformation to confuse people.

[michael christopher]

We are all part of the One (god). He does love things and he isn't how he's described in the Bible. Oh and yes, he and she are currently removing the reptilians.



Actually, yes I do.

God is a positive force and it's only because the reptilians have shut us off from him is why there is so much anarchy here in this world. The reptilians aren't here as a manifestation of our minds. That's all disinformation to confuse people.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, to me it seems illogical for God to be a positive force when God is all encompassing. God works through both positive and negative agents. Any other idea of God is inherently dualistic and dualism is the separation of one into two.

[turbine]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, to me it seems illogical for God to be a positive force when God is all encompassing. God works through both positive and negative agents. Any other idea of God is inherently dualistic and dualism is the separation of one into two.

We've been shut off from god by the reptilians by an electronic net that is powered from mars. This is why there's so much hell in this world. It isn't god that doing this but the reptilians.

IMO, the reptilians aren't connected to god as they are a negative force and have no love. This is why god can't instantly kill them as its like trying to kill fleas on a god back with your fingers.

[michael christopher]

We've been shut off from god by the reptilians by an electronic net that is powered from mars. This is why there's so much hell in this world. It isn't god that doing this but the reptilians.

IMO, the reptilians aren't connected to god as they are a negative force and have no love. This is why god can't instantly kill them as its like trying to kill fleas on a god back with your fingers.

So you theoretically think that the reptilians are more powerful than God, and yet you worship God?

Eh, I don't see a point in continuing this discussion, I don't think we're going to end up on the same page.

[turbine]

So you theoretically think that the reptilians are more powerful than God, and yet you worship God?

Eh, I don't see a point in continuing this discussion, I don't think we're going to end up on the same page.

No, they're not more powerful than god. I didn't say that. Which is why I said earlier I didn't want my words to be twisted around.

[rhydra]

During wars, conflicts and disputes, every side thinks the enemy isn't on God's side. Those that are into God anyway. When one side wins, it is because god has let them, if they win it's because God has forsaken them for some past indiscretion, it can be handy.

[sloughi]

Assuming that the highly unlikely event of a reptilian takeover were to ever occur, I would rather die than worship anything.You say that now, but you know better. Your serpent lords would be pleased with your service.

[croquetplayer12]

Were we created by aliens?

Are those aliens reptilians from draco?

Are they the annunaki?



If the alternative theory about human evolution can be assumed to be true, or the mainline theory proved to be false, and we came from somewhere else and were either brought here or created here from a lower homo sapian species, does that not make our creators our gods?
For without them, we might not even exist.

Does them genetically engineering us mean we're from that soulgroup, if soulgroups exist, or if souls even exist?
If we were genetically engineered, do we even have souls?


I think its possible we were created as a slave race, by these 'reptoids', the origins of every religion on the world talks of serpent gods.
The symbology is there even in christianity.

I think we need to recognize our creators as our rightful rulers.
It's all very well bashing them on the internet, but when they reveal themselfs in the public eye, or arrive in 2012, you will fall down on your knees and worship them.
Those non-believers will be forced to toil in the underground caves to mine the gold and other minerals for our new overlords.

If reptoids are real, and I believe they were, we need to give them their due credit and help them in thanks for creating us.



sounds like you need to watch credo mutwas interview....we were here first:D

[measle_weasel]

Look. Its perfectly natural for people to dislike certain things. But if you, or anyone else, were tortured, its only common sense you wouldn't be too loving at those who done it to you.

You seem to insinuate in your posts that not I, nor anyone else, would be capable of forgiving a crime that was commited against them, and would hold a grudge eternally towards that person and/or group who commited the crime. That may be true for certain individuals, but to make a broad generalization about everyone, is just silly.

Not all humans hold grudges, no matter what the crime, just as not all reptilians, if they exist, would be evil.

You're trying to make it seem that I know everything, when I don't. I never said I did.

You insinuated such by speaking in absolutes.

But in reality, even god hates certain things. Sinners especially.

Are you kidding me? God? Hate? ... ... ... you must be part of a mainstream religion. You need to work on breaking out of that. A source of love, mercy, intelligence, wisdom, and power, beyond comprehension, is highly unlikely to harbor any hate whatsoever. It is totally illogical. Use the brain and intelligence God gave you, and think for yourself, and stop taking your information about God from people who only want to control you.

[measle_weasel]

I'm not saying god is hateful at all. He's the most loving entity in existence. But I know enough to say he doesn't particularly like the Reptilian race. That is all before my words are twisted around.

How do you know this?

[croquetplayer12]

even icke said that not all reptilians are bad just the select few who rule our planet so why would go hate them all

[measle_weasel]

How can God even hate or love, for that matter? If he loves us so much he should remove the reptilians and other chaos out of our world.

How can you possibly be suggesting to God, what God should do? That statement right there is either mind bogglingly ignorant, or unfathomably hubristic.

God is.

Meditate on that for as long as it takes to understand it. Youll know when you do.

...god is just the...

God is just... what? To define something means to limit it. God cannot be defined, as God is unlimited. Even that statement, is defining God, which makes it incorrect.

God is. Meditate on it.

[measle_weasel]

We've been shut off from god by the reptilians by an electronic net that is powered from mars. This is why there's so much hell in this world. It isn't god that doing this but the reptilians.

IMO, the reptilians aren't connected to god as they are a negative force and have no love. This is why god can't instantly kill them as its like trying to kill fleas on a god back with your fingers.

You are not understanding that God is beyond infinite, and then beyond that, infinitely. No thing of finite power can oppose something of infinite power.

I seem to be repeating myself, and should probably have just put all these replies into one post. But this is an important concept to understand, that I have noticed not many people do. And it is extremely difficult to explain this concept even with metephor, because no metaphor can adaquately convey the gap between you, me, the reptilians, and all other things within existence, and the Creator.

God is.

Once someone understands the meaning behind "God is"... it changes their life forever.

[1977]

We all seem to be rather presumptuous about an entity whose true nature has been entirely concealed from us. Deus abscondus, to use the proper term.

[turbine]

You seem to insinuate in your posts that not I, nor anyone else, would be capable of forgiving a crime that was commited against them, and would hold a grudge eternally towards that person and/or group who commited the crime. That may be true for certain individuals, but to make a broad generalization about everyone, is just silly.

Not all humans hold grudges, no matter what the crime, just as not all reptilians, if they exist, would be evil.



You insinuated such by speaking in absolutes.



Are you kidding me? God? Hate? ... ... ... you must be part of a mainstream religion. You need to work on breaking out of that. A source of love, mercy, intelligence, wisdom, and power, beyond comprehension, is highly unlikely to harbor any hate whatsoever. It is totally illogical. Use the brain and intelligence God gave you, and think for yourself, and stop taking your information about God from people who only want to control you.

I see you're using big words to put yourself across as some all loving saint who knows more than anyone else. Good on ya. ;)

When I say hate I don't mean how you think it as. He's obviously not going to be too chuffed about one race severely bullying another race and causing them to sin and go against his word. Hence when I used the word hate instead of strong dislike towards the reptilians race. Yes?

I have got a brain thank you very much and because I do I'll continue to use it to believe what ever I want even if it means arguing against you.

How do you know this?

Because they are the devils who are reeking havoc in this world. Ever heard of reverse speech? That tells you quite a bit about God and what's going on.

You might want to give it some research. Could learn a thing or two.

[measle_weasel]

I see you're using big words to put yourself across as some all loving saint who knows more than anyone else. Good on ya. ;)

Im sorry if you have a problem with me because I have a large vocabulary, and utilize that vocabulary to express myself. Thats something you will have to deal with on your own.

When I say hate I don't mean how you think it as. He's obviously not going to be too chuffed about one race severely bullying another race and causing them to sin and go against his word. Hence when I used the word hate instead of strong dislike towards the reptilians race. Yes?

From webster:
Main Entry: 1hate
Pronunciation: \ˈhāt\
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hete; akin to Old High German haz hate, Greek kēdos care
Date: before 12th century
1 a: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b: extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing <had a great hate of hard work>
2: an object of hatred <a generation whose finest hate had been big business — F. L. Paxson>

You are apparently using the word "hate" in a non-standard way. Why would you expect anyone to know what youre talking about, if youre deliberately skewing the meaning of common words?

I have got a brain thank you very much and because I do I'll continue to use it to believe what ever I want even if it means arguing against you.

Good.

Because they are the devils who are reeking havoc in this world. Ever heard of reverse speech? That tells you quite a bit about God and what's going on.

You might want to give it some research. Could learn a thing or two.

Please give me an example. Not of reverse speach, but of how, in detail, it reveals the exact thoughts of God, of which you seem to know so much about.

[turbine]

Im sorry if you have a problem with me because I have a large vocabulary, and utilize that vocabulary to express myself. Thats something you will have to deal with on your own.



From webster:


You are apparently using the word "hate" in a non-standard way. Why would you expect anyone to know what youre talking about, if youre deliberately skewing the meaning of common words?



Good.



Please give me an example. Not of reverse speach, but of how, in detail, it reveals the exact thoughts of God, of which you seem to know so much about.

lol, you might have large volcabulary, but not too good with sarcasm. ;)

Oh and for reverse speech. Try the alex collier videos as reverse speech isn't the same for everyone. You interpret what you need to hear. Give it a bash.

[measle_weasel]

lol, you might have large volcabulary, but not too good with sarcasm. ;)

Where was I being sarcastic?

Oh and for reverse speech. Try the alex collier videos as reverse speech isn't the same for everyone. You interpret what you need to hear. Give it a bash.

As I understand what you have written, "reverse speach" is subjective to the listener. I also assume that you consider whatever God thinks to be objective, and not subject to interpretation. It seems you are saying that the subjective experience of listening to reverse speach, proves an objective truth such as the thoughts of God. Thats like saying that since I dont like the taste of lima beans, the lima beans are bad for me, even though the subjective taste of the lima beans, has absolutely no bearing on the nutritional value of them. It doesnt make any sense.

[turbine]

Where was I being sarcastic?



As I understand what you have written, "reverse speach" is subjective to the listener. I also assume that you consider whatever God thinks to be objective, and not subject to interpretation. It seems you are saying that the subjective experience of listening to reverse speach, proves an objective truth such as the thoughts of God. Thats like saying that since I dont like the taste of lima beans, the lima beans are bad for me, even though the subjective taste of the lima beans, has absolutely no bearing on the nutritional value of them. It doesnt make any sense.

Me being sarcastic...

Oh and you've got my reverse speech idea wrong. You don't get god thoughts but what he's doing. Try this video. It says "dad helps it there isn't a na". Dad is god and he help those on the place survive.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YTYru4vqyKU

[measle_weasel]

Me being sarcastic...

Oh and you've got my reverse speech idea wrong. You don't get god thoughts but what he's doing. Try this video. It says "dad helps it there isn't a na". Dad is god and he help those on the place survive.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YTYru4vqyKU

Im not hearing it. What part is it at?

[1977]

I am not sure how to feel about Peggy Kane's (http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/) work anymore. She is undoubtedly right about a great many things: there is a Net, and we have been imprisoned here.

Yet she has also said that 2008 was "our year" for proving the veracity of Reverse Speech, and, to quote 2 Peter 3:4, "all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."

Still we watch and wait for the End; for a Liberation that is always immanent and yet may never come.

[michael christopher]

You say that now, but you know better. Your serpent lords would be pleased with your service.

Yessss... my masssters will be pleassssed...

[johnthejedi24]

Just because a bunch of big lizards POSSIBLY created us from an earlier species, does not mean we have to bow to them and worship them as GODS. There are no GODS. The Reptilian GODS would just be very technologically/spiritualy(sp?) advanced extraterrestrials. What is normal to them would seem like magic to primitive era man.

They may be wise beyond our years but that does not make them any better than Humanity, and with all the negative publicity some of them get, I would consider SOME of them to be morally bankrupt. Raping, eating and stealing/absorbing positive/negative energy from us is not the mark of a benevolent species.

"I am not saying all those lizards are bad, just possibly the ones in the top and the leaders controlling EVERYTHING." There are GOOD ONES out there....just not that many it seems.

[zulabelle]

((Disclaimer: I ramble so I will probably veer way off topic, so I apologize ahead of time.))

They didn't create us, I don't think. They just tampered with us and masqueraded as gods and are still running rampant today, NOT just in the form of world leaders and all that but in many other forms too, all around. What we choose to call them is irrelevant-- demons, reptilians, gods, angels.. All are just different aspects of the same thing, really.
My gut tells me that the vast majority of them ARE "all bad", considering the state we're in, the state the planet is in. Now, I'm not saying that none of it is our fault.. BUT, we're in a prison, an organic matrix, a godawful puppet show. It DOESN'T MATTER how much you meditate or chat with your so-called spirit guides or even love, we are STILL in a prison. Spiritually we're still handicapped. No matter how "awake" we think we are, we're still half asleep because parts of ourselves have been disconnected and turned off...NOT by us, I don't think, but by "them" long long ago whoever "they" may be, reptilian or not. They've manipulated our genes and who knows what else, to keep us submissive since otherwise we'd be a threat. Headless chickens are easier to manage. And the prison we live in-- or the matrix or whatever is definitely real and NOT merely a projection.. I don't know how anyone could think otherwise. I mean, yes, everything IS essentially a illusion, but..I personally have always noticed that something was OFF with the world (I'm sure most of you have too), ever since I was a kid. When I look around I just know that this is NOT how the world was originally, it's not how it was meant to be. It's been warped into a snowglobe world.. We can't be saved by positive thinking. Still though, I don't think we'll be trapped forever. We're making progress, somehow, something is bound to happen because we have the potential to be so much more. Things can't continue the way they have been forever.. it will collapse.

Anyway, uh. Reptilians. NOT our "rightful rulers", though I'm sure they'd like us to think so. This is why I do not trust channeled information, or spirit guides or any of that... I mean, we still have our intuition to go by but we're still so limited in what we can perceive. We have no idea what all is floating around invisible to us. And these reptilians are obviously much more advanced than us.. If they can manage to walk among us in human form and not be noticed, surely they can pretend to be angels or a benevolent super alien race, just to screw with us and feed on us. They just see us as food after all. And I don't know if reptilians as a whole are entirely evil, but I really don't think it's worth arguing about because how would we know?! We haven't met all the reptilian-type species in the universe. But I think the ones hanging around on earth are more than likely not friendly.

*sigh* I just wonder when or if they're going to come out and rule as gods as they did before.. They may orchestrate some sort of alien rescue show after blowing everything up and staging an apocalypse, herding us into ships (under the guise of beautiful Pleadians or something) and then slaughtering us. I've had quite a few dreams of this happening..I really, really hope it doesn't.

[konnster]

That's what "they" would like us to think.
The body is not who or what we are. We are Creative Energy Beings.
No, "they" cannot create Life. They only have a weak link to the Source of Life, which is why they need to steal our energy. They decieve and corrupt.
They are in opposition to the True Creator. They are intruders. We are far more powerful than "them" if only we can break through the deception, and the only way to do that is through awareness and Trust in the Creative Spirit within, and everywhere.

I Agree, I think its nonsense to declare some entity as your rightful creator or ruler...that's just as stupid as you would say that some queen or king is you ruler.. thats just bullcrap!!! If anyone in some way is my creator its my mum and dad and I dont worship them as a god.

Only the true infinite spirit creator is the essence of life and what that is exactly is just a high dimension of ourselves, we are infact the infinite prime creator but so are the reptilians, so are the animals...we have just forgotten it.

The reptilians are only interested in dividing and ruling because they are so disconnected from there primary energy source (infinite creator spirit) in terms of memory and mentality that they even need to feed of our energy because they lack security of them selves in creation.

The nature of the infinite is of love and unity and there is no god and hierarchy in reality, these terms are good for use to understand different levels of energy and dimensions but they are infact all the same interacting patterns.

Just to make my point:

Have a high spiritually evolved angel incarnate into this earth and he will share McDonalds and a movie with you!!

Reptilians may have fucked with our DNA structure but why would you do such a thing??

Also I dont think Reptilians are the only ET lifeform to mess with our DNA.

I was once asked if we are not the same as the reptilians because we slaughter sheeps for eating and we rule the sheeps, but in reality do we as humans make sheep fight eachother? Do we divide and rule them and make them slave for us?? No!

[turbine]

Im not hearing it. What part is it at?

Good god...

Reverse it!!! Its the example I gave you. :rolleyes:

/facepalm

[octopusrex]

It stands to reason that if we were created by reptilians, they are our owners by copyright laws as generally accepted in Hollywood Standards.

[measle_weasel]

Good god...

Reverse it!!! Its the example I gave you. :rolleyes:

/facepalm

I have no software that will play a movie backwards.

[croquetplayer12]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMWc29l9Jbc&feature=PlayList&p=50E8F07A5386234E&index=3

CHECK IT

[turbine]

I have no software that will play a movie backwards.

Google search for "audacity". Make sure it's the 1.3.X beta. It's free and is very good for RS.

[octopusrex]

I wonder if some day some DNA altered supermouse will rebel against mankind and take over the world.

[lordreptoid]

I was once asked if we are not the same as the reptilians because we slaughter sheeps for eating and we rule the sheeps, but in reality do we as humans make sheep fight eachother? Do we divide and rule them and make them slave for us?? No!

Perhaps the whole paradigm is a CUE to stop eating murder as a "diet" and justifying such an act as "natural food chain". Besides, what humans do to each other is not "ALL the alien's fault", that's a lousy pathetic cop out of a xenophobic excuse that gets top marks for the greatest stereotypically predictable human behavior throughout all human history on every level. Perhaps it's this human flaw and the former which attracted "evil" to human beings in the first place... obviously there's a strong connection there otherwise we wouldn't even be having this discussion or know what a "negative ET encounter" really was.

Someone has some serious re-thinking to do.

[lordreptoid]

I wonder if some day some DNA altered supermouse will rebel against mankind and take over the world.

:) Very "Hitch-hiker's guide"... I love it. :D

"So long and thanks for all the fish." ;)

[octopusrex]

:) Very "Hitch-hiker's guide"... I love it. :D

"So long and thanks for all the fish." ;)

Yep. That's about the real scoop on the illuminati. Have we met?

[lord summerisle]

Is this question not the meaning of life ?

[octopusrex]

Landmark Forum and Buddhists would say, life is meaningless. Brahmayoti kind thinking.

[shenoma]

You might has well do what you want and be happy and not to worry.:)

Landmark Forum and Buddhists would say, life is meaningless. Brahmayoti kind thinking.

[lordreptoid]

Too true... it's just keeping the negative extremists at bay that matters most after that peace is obtained... look at what happens to Tibet, the place of "peace" all the time. Horrific. (Not that I could relate to them in any way) *smirks*

I would like to add a thought on topic about "rightful rulers":

What separated the peasants from knights? Or the street-people from Ladies and Gentlemen? Does any remember those days and terms and what actually took place back then? Are these models anywhere to be found today? Let me explain... Self-mastery. What is self-mastery? It's not meditating or burning the correct insense. It's HONOUR... doing the RIGHT THING or being civil even when you really don't feel the other beast deserves anything of the sort. Think Mark Twain responding to some critic. He was a Gentleman. (See "gentle" in there?) How many Gentlemen do we have on this forum? Too few. Honour is dead in today's society? And who or what INSPIRED this civil way of being long ago in the first place? Who were the people attempting to imitate and indeed be in alignmnt with? That's right, Royalty. I've always found that so interesting because it's something people today for some odd reason cannot seem to remember, yet they think that by forgetting how leaders behave, even then they are seen all over their Sci-Fi movies and favorite TV shows, they think that by ignoring these model examples of great honour and courage, that those who still follow the old codes of conduct somehow won't notice their lower level vibrations. Perhaps, dare I suggest, that this pattern also goes beyond the nearby orbit of this little dust ball in deep space. ;) Something to think about when watching a UFO next time anyone sees one. If that's not inspiring enough, go meet James Gilliland and he'll help the confused understand just what we're talking about.

Blessings, seekers of truth.