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rimbaud
11-01-2009, 06:43 AM
i've been frequenting the hospital over a blood clot (deep vein thromposis) now, for the last 3 days.
they've been injecting me with a drug called clexane and will do untill wednesday, which is when, the tablets called warfarin i've been taking will begin to work.
i've never really been in hospital before and, knowing what i and ye all know, the whole set up has got me rather paranoid.
I've looked up the drugs on the tinterweb n havent found much other than the 'official' bio's of these drugs..
does anyone ave any info on this an am i right t be wary?
Love and Light
reversi
11-01-2009, 08:38 AM
Clexane (enoxaparin)
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100000527.html)
http://www.drugbank.ca/ (http://www.drugbank.ca/cgi-bin/getCard.cgi?CARD=APRD00068)
At this stage the Clexane product, or five batches of it, have tested positive for that contaminant, and we are recalling those batches of Clexane.
Source: http://www.youhaverights.com/ (http://www.youhaverights.com/legal_updates/read/worldwide-heparin-recall-causing-shortages/)
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Warfarin
http://www.warfarinfo.com/Rat%20eating%20dime.jpg
Dr. Link was not a medical doctor, he worked in the agricultural field. His interest was increasing farm yields. With this in mind, he turned to rodent control with his new chemical. In 1945 he was able to produce the chemical called warfarin. The name came from the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation, the organization that funded the research. During 1951 the Korean War was being fought. A Navy recruit who evidently did not want to go to war ate about a pound of the warfarin rat poison in a suicide attempt. He was treated with vitamin K and made a full recovery. This led to the realization that warfarin could be used in humans to treat blood clots.
Source: http://www.warfarinfo.com/ (http://www.warfarinfo.com/rat-poison.htm)
http://www.answers.com/ (http://www.answers.com/topic/warfarin)
Blood-Thinning Drug Warfarin May Lead to Brain Hemorrhages (http://www.newsinferno.com/archives/1376)
Brent and Naumov present a great deal of new material in "Stalin's Last Crime," including the suggestion that a real conspiracy brought about the end of the dictator, by putting warfarin, a colorless and tasteless rat poison, in his food.
Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/ (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/666jpuxd.asp)
krakhead
11-01-2009, 11:16 AM
And the non-'wind you up to an even more paranoid state' version would be -
I have a client who is on both Clexane and Warfarin due to DVT's caused by years and years of IV substance abuse. Without the drugs, he'd have lost his leg(s).
If you have a DVT, it needs treating. The medication you are on is the current favoured treatment. Of course you can always allow your paranoia to win, not take the medication then have one the clots come free and lodge in your lungs and give your a pulmonary embolism.
Up to you....... :)
(take the medication :))
rhydra
11-01-2009, 11:43 AM
Any medicine is, in some ways, a poison, many poisons, in small doses can be medicines. The toxicity of some naturally and/or manufactured products can be used in small doses to kill infection, cancers and the like. it doesn't mean they are bad, it just means that they have to be taken as recommended. When you think about it, almost anything can be bad for you if you overdo it or don't use it wisely, even water.
sophia_h
11-01-2009, 12:27 PM
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rimbaud
Have been living with a clot in major vein of left leg for
fifty years.
was in hosp three weeks when it was first diagnosed
and told I may well lose the leg from above the knee
I lived with it for fifteen years as a cripple
as I believed all the med professionals told me
declining health while still young drove me to
ALTERNATIVE methods
Alternative medicine was still very much in the
shadows in early 70's so I had to dig
and ask
there were no puters and internet
finally threats of spinal surgeries made me go
to a Health Food Store
began to turn my life around
was able to start walking for health and
eventually jogging
I was told I could NEVER walk and jog
just get around the house in surgical stocking
( PAINFUL) and take cabs everywhere
THIS WAS A MAJOR CAUSE OF MY ONGOING
HEALTH DECLINE
I need physical activity and had always done
these years of medical advice to keep docile
were KILLING ME
leg and ankle frequently swollen and painful !
beagn to follow advice from books and
Health Food Store owner
energy grew again
got serous urge to walk
started small
just around a Manhattan block
Manh. blocks are long!
serious swelling and pain
kept up attempts
stayed with vitamins and raw juices
avoided cheese, eggs, et al
kept walking a couple more blocks every
week
one Saturday I walked from my apt
on East End Ave& 80t St
to Greenwich Village!
ca 80 blocks!
4 MILES !
and after an iced tea and rest
all the way back
4 MORE miles!
sat in jacuzzi relishing this STAR performance
and embracing a new life
that summer in bought my first bicycle!
age 36.
learned to ride and did so daily!
rode over to Central Park and began to
jog short distances first and increased
to the path around the Reservoir
Manhattans famous joging track
once then twice then three times
after two months
I didnt say I had long since given up
the surgical stocking already .
I put powdered red cayenne pepper on
everything I eat
Tumeric powder or caps daily
lots of Vit C, D, E, Omega oils, 3,6,9 and additnl. 3,
lots of A , calcium and SEPERATELY
magnesium. Garlic pickled in red wine,
green powder with cellulose base.
If I eat anything with eggs or hydrogenated oils
I get inflamation in upper thigh on that leg
SHARP pain to remind me to WATCH
what I eat
There is more to my program not necessary now.
Just dont get onto the killer drugs as I was.
study up and develope your own program
also go read many ALTERNATIVE medical
practitioners on many topisc at
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/
and search THROMBO PHLEBITIS
from this day you are getting well.
I am sitting za zen while I type,
for years I wasn't able to even BEND that leg !
I can out walk most people and never wear
any support hose,actually go barefooted most
of the time!
believe.
:):D
.
ayomide
11-01-2009, 01:34 PM
Try Harpago - devils claw - it cleans out your whole system and has some unexplained medical benefits. It would help with TVB.
Best you don't order off the net - if you know anyone in Namibia or SA ask them to send it for you.
Its very bitter but very healthy:).