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11indigo11
09-01-2009, 03:35 PM
This is one of the best threads I have ever seen.
Amazing info regarding 2012 and lots more
Enjoy :)

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8441

cleft_asunder
09-01-2009, 06:21 PM
This is one of the best threads I have ever seen.
Amazing info regarding 2012 and lots more
Enjoy :)

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8441

Yeah but there's no alignment during or around this date. Not to galactic center, and not to anything.

"The “thing” which is very important for all of us, currently present on Earth in this time which according to Gregorian Calendar is November 2008, is that the “ancients” had delivered a message through the Mayan Long Count Calendar that on a date in the future which matches the Gregorian Calendar on 21 Dec 2012 there will be a cosmic alignment between the Earth, Sun, The star cluster Pleiades and the center of the Milky Way Galaxy – Hunab Ku."

astralwalker
10-01-2009, 03:57 PM
This are the strongest opposing “mainstream science” arguments about Dec 21, 2012:


- Maya never really made a prediction about a galactic alignment for Dec 21, 2012. This idea was born out of attempting to figure out why the Long Count ends on that date.

- It is true that the winter solstice Sun will fall into the Dark Rift also called Cygnus Rift on Dec, 21, 2012, but the closes to zero degrees (longitude/latitude) that we will come, already happened on December 21st, 1998.

- Where will the Sun be relative to the galactic equator in 2012? - Precession is moving the winter solstice Sun further form the galactic equator. So it will not be in exact alignment on Dec 21, 2012. We are actually at this point 78 light-years away from the galactic equator and we are moving further away from it. So actually, its only 3 million years ago that we passed the galactic equator and we wont be back to it for 60 million years.

- The Dec 21, 2012 Winter Solstice Sun will not be in exact alignment wit the Galactic Equator. Its actually moving further away! This alignment already happened in 1998!

-No evidence that ancient Maya predicted the End of the World in 2012 (discussible)

-No exact alignment of the Winter Solstice December 21st 2012 Sun with the Galactic Equator and No Crossing over the Galactic Equator by our Solar System


Those are all Nice conclusions!

But they are all False.

Lets start with this:

- According to their arguments this alignment already happened in 1998. True...but that is not essential to this 2012 scenario.

This means that we already passed that point and we are moving away from the galactic center. True…but. There is also something else that has to be considered here.

We are influenced by new energies from the Galactic Center. The proof is everywhere.

http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/planetchange1.htm

The Sun entered the galactic equator during the Winter Solstice of 1980 and will have completely cleared the galactic equator on the Winter Solstice of 2016. The years between 1980 and 2016 is called the Galactic Alignment zone or era-2012.

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/30/l_f3b1a5258aef4d79994935bc0c467006.jpg

>> Did this triggering of Hunab Ku energetic Nexus start in 1998 and not 26000 ago? – Still unknown. Possibly that in the moment of the alignment in 1998, there was some kind of Aetheric portal opening, inside the center of the Sgr A*, from where the energy shot appeared, and is now traveling this way.

http://www.aztlan.net/bursts_center_galaxy.jpg

- If this is true, this Aetheric energy is moving with speed that is way beyond of our current perception and understanding.

As “ETs” clearly delivered, we will “visually” see this phenomenon from Earth on 13 Dec 2012.

On the other hand, not everyone in NASA is polluted. This is the update they put on about the appearance and location of our Sun according to the location of the galactic center:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:236084main_MilkyWay-full-annotated.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/236084main_MilkyWay-full-annotated.jpg/600px-236084main_MilkyWay-full-annotated.jpg

Now, let’s add some more power to this.

I will land on the scientific field so that we can be completely “equal and legitimate” inside the ring.

Not to be misunderstood, I’m not against science, but I’m against the false science or at least deliberately false presented science from NASA and ESA which as we all know are own by the Elite.

Hmm…here is the interesting link.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=208935

You have to log in to see some of the things. Most of the physicists are ridiculing the 21 Dec 2012 and considered it as nonsense, but there is also a nice star chart of the night sky on 21 Dec 2012 seen from a location near Philadelphia in USA. And its about all that we need!

Its a screenshot of Starry Night for 21 Dec 2012.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v676/160/32/1428107758/n1428107758_30155915_9047.jpg

The Sun, viewed from earth, is 6 degrees, 38 minutes away from being aligned with the galactic center. It is how the Milky Way will look like on the night sky.

Now let’s get back to that 1998 alignment. The real alignment is not goint to happen by continuing on the same course away from the galactic center, but its going to be about the increasing of the mass of our star, increasing Sun’s energy output and also extreme gravitational pull and than as a secondary result a change in the Earth’s orbit. Also there is evidence that in the all atmospheres of the planet there are drastic changes and this includes the increase of mass.

In any case, the change in the conditions as influence of the unknown form of galactic energy that radiates from coming Nexus which arrives in 2012 will generate the perfect alignment. I believe that NASA had already figured out but they are silent about this.

In other words, in this scenario we have a straight line between our planet, the Sun and the Galactic center.

Once more lets see, the pictogram that appeared Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/aveburymanor/AmdiaAMx.jpg

Now, let’s compare the Update that arrived on 22 July 2008.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u71/MuaDib_bucket/Analiaza-CropcirclesbyTaoOm.png

And if we utileze the downloaded data… lets see:

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v676/160/32/1428107758/n1428107758_30156004_9390.jpg

Hmm…we still have no perfect alignment. True…but, if we add here that because the Sun will get so large scaling to a central point of planet Venus, we have unseen gravitational pull that certainly effect the geological and the magnetic poles of our planet. This new influence of increased gravity from the Sun will make Earth out of its nominal orbit, just as little so we have a straight line.

21 Dec 2012 Time: 11:11:11

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v676/160/32/1428107758/n1428107758_30156005_9984.jpg

Way… The ETs are clear about this.

There is your perfect alignment.

The only error in all this that I presented can be that the 21 Dec 2012 is actually a 22,23 Dec 2012 as depicted in the Crop formation. That means that on the Gregorian Calendar the Mayan Long Count Calendar end on 23 Dec 2012 and not 21 Dec 2012.

However, we are talking about a difference of only two days. Does two days difference makes any difference to you? (No, Of Course Not!)

But, on the other hand, I have seen data in the crop formation that clearly depicts the Dec 21 2012.

Summary:

The new input is suggesting that very soon we will have a transmutation of genetic material of this solar system, including our own DNA, or if I can say some kind of “special bath” in galactic light emanating from our own Sun, acting as transducer of the Galactic Centre itself, passing directly to the Earth.

http://cosmictreatment.com/images/cosmic_energy.jpg

In other words we are talking about Evolution!

Evolution of the consciousness that will take the life forms to a higher level of existence when the cosmic beams start to hit our Sun and when they did our Sun will project a white blue beam of beatufull light that will hit the Earth.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/GenioRoger/SingularityGravity.gif

Summarised:

According to the mainstream science, we have already passed the closest point of crossing with the galactic equator in 1998, and that is why the scientific community has disagreements about this wide spread idea of the cosmic alignment on 21 Dec 2012.

Some of the scientists have stepped forward with the statement that precession is moving the winter solstice sun further form the galactic equator. That means that it will not be in exact alignment on Dec 21, 2012 and that in this moment, we are actually at a point which is 78 light-years away from the galactic equator, and we are moving further away from it.

This logic is good, but there is a missing input. And that missing input that is coming to us, via crop design messages, is suggesting that there will be indeed a precise cosmic alignment, as the result of so far unseen changes in the Matrix of our solar system.

If the Matrix of our solar system would remain the same and our solar system would stay as it is and by default, this scientific conclusion would be totally correct.

But…the CROP CIRLCE MAKERS are showing us that… it won’t.

Just for the record: The sun entered the galactic equator during the Winter Solstice of 1980 and everything would stay by default and have completely cleared the galactic equator on the Winter Solstice of 2016. The years between 1980 and 2016 is called the Galactic Alignment zone or era-2012.

If we remove our shields and belief systems, we can clearly see that something extraordinary is happening all around us. The Matrix is changing because we are influenced by new energies from the Galactic Center. The proof is everywhere.

There is a high possibly that in the moment of the alignment in 1998, there was some kind of activation in the center of the Sgr A*.

As far as we can stretch out our current understanding of the dynamics of the Universe, it was some kind of Aetheric portal opening from where an unknown form of energy entered into the Milky Way and is now traveling this way.

Also for the record, the center of the Milky Way is 26.000 Light Years away from us, and in normal conditions it would take the same time period to reach us if the energy is moving with the speed of Light. That means that this Aetheric plasma energy is moving with speed that is way beyond our current perception and understanding. As “ETs” clearly delivered in few of their crop designs, we will “visually” see this phenomenon from earth on 13 Dec 2012.

Now let’s get back to that 1998 alignment.

The second alignment and very important for us is not going to happen by continuing on the same course away from the galactic center, but it’s going to be about the increasing of the mass of our star, increasing sun’s energy output and also extreme gravitational pull and then as a secondary result a change in the earth’s nominal orbit.

Why all this didn’t happen in 1998 and why this second alignment, I have no clear answer. Why this is the case, I can not say… but I can conclude that in most cases what we consider logical and what perfectly fits our understanding of the cosmic reality, in most cases turns out that has nothing to do with the true Aether’s logic and how the Creator manages this Universe.


Respect to you,

Astralwalker

chris_com283
10-01-2009, 11:31 PM
Too drunk to read all that. Though the Nexus thread does seem impressive, once you look into it then it does sort of seem less impressive. Not saying I know the answers (if anything I'm even more confused), but just reminding you to keep an open mind and be skeptical (not contradictory in my opinion).

cleft_asunder
10-01-2009, 11:36 PM
"The ET's," Lol. Yeah the Reptilians are real clear about it.

This is great. I'm loving the logic. So there's going to be an alignment due to unknown forces. Maybe but... probably not.

cleft_asunder
10-01-2009, 11:36 PM
Too drunk to read all that. Though the Nexus thread does seem impressive, once you look into it then it does sort of seem less impressive. Not saying I know the answers (if anything I'm even more confused), but just reminding you to keep an open mind and be skeptical (not contradictory in my opinion).

I agree.

chris_com283
11-01-2009, 05:24 AM
Glad you agree with me here. There may be something going to happpen, but it's hard to tell it if there is or what is going to happen. If anything good comes out of it then it's to remind us of how important life is. It's not worth wasting it on hate and regret when we've got the rest of our lives to worry about.

Whever it's today or tomarow, 2012 or 20 years later, you've got to make peace with yourself and learn to accept what's to come in your life. This is oner thing I learnt from the 2012 belief. Please post in my '2012 Evidence Thread' if you have any information relating to "changes" happening then. I'll try to find out the studies done that I mentioned before.

cleft_asunder
11-01-2009, 06:02 AM
Glad you agree with me here. There may be something going to happpen, but it's hard to tell it if there is or what is going to happen. If anything good comes out of it then it's to remind us of how important life is. It's not worth wasting it on hate and regret when we've got the rest of our lives to worry about.

Whever it's today or tomarow, 2012 or 20 years later, you've got to make peace with yourself and learn to accept what's to come in your life. This is oner thing I learnt from the 2012 belief. Please post in my '2012 Evidence Thread' if you have any information relating to "changes" happening then. I'll try to find out the studies done that I mentioned before.

Well that's the point. Even if the reasearch above is right, then so what? Are we going to avoid the present and focus on the future? That's what the controllers want us to do. It's a waste of time because only what you're doing now is important. And when you focus on the future, you are giving your power away.

Now I do believe something will happen at that date, but not because of research like what we find above. That type of research is very disconnected. You can tell it's right from the mainstream UFO community who still believe that ET's are here to save us and that they communicate through crop circles. When was the last time positive ET's have done anything good for us? When was the last time a specific major event that was predicted actually manifested, such as contact of some form? Exactly.

astralwalker
11-01-2009, 03:27 PM
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/20/l_34e049aeb0db4728960d09f4a655c64f.jpg