Bloodline proof email to pass on

[celtic isis]

The New England Historic Genealogical Society reveals that Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins!!!


Founded in 1845, the New England Historic Genealogical Society is the oldest and most respected nonprofit genealogical organization in the country. Our resources, reputation, and expertise are unmatched in the field and our leading staff of on-site and on-line genealogists includes experts in early American, Irish, English, Scottish, and Canadian research.


Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President Dick Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.

Genealogist Christopher Child said that while the candidates often focus on pointing out differences between them, their ancestry shows they are more alike than they think.

"It shows that lots of different people can be related, people you wouldn't necessarily expect," Child said. "His kinships are across the political spectrum," Child said.

Child has spent the last three years tracing the candidates' genealogy, along with senior research scholar Gary Boyd Roberts, author of the 1989 book, "Ancestors of American Presidents."


Clinton's distant cousins include Camilla Parker-Bowles, wife of Prince Charles of England.

Boy Bush is 11th in line to the British throne after Prince Charles - because they are also cousins.

Obama and President Bush are 10th cousins, once removed, linked by Samuel Hinkley of Cape Cod, who died in 1662.

Pitt and Obama are ninth cousins, linked by Edwin Hickman, who died in Virginia in 1769.

Clinton and Jolie are ninth cousins, twice removed, both related to Jean Cusson who died in St. Sulpice, Quebec, in 1718.

Clinton, who is of French-Canadian descent on her mother's side, is also a distant cousin of singers Madonna, Celine Dion and Alanis Morissette. Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins. McCain is a sixth cousin of first lady Laura Bush..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23797072/

Folks, this is why it is so easy to have the power they have - they are still the same Monarchial family they were at the times of rule by kings and queens, the same inbred red carpet bloodline. Nothing has changed except their propaganda!!! This is also why it doesn't matter who is president, the result never changes, the world is never made a better place because it is in their interest for it to have chaos, for out of chaos shall be born ORDER. Which is what they are striving to accomplish. The New World Order, as Bush himself spoke about in that video clip. "A new world order, not the law of the jungle." We are little more than jungle animals to these people. And that is the truth.


http://www.wat.tv/video/bush-clinton-obama-mccain-wxhh_vzfh_.html

Sometimes the truth gets out and they have to laugh it off and half admit it, like Obama in this video clip.

Love in truth x

[celtic isis]

Copy, Paste and PASS away!!!

:cool::)

[eternal_spirit]

I was on the right track then

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41773

[celtic isis]

I was on the right track then

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41773

son, cousin, who cares once they're related lol ;)

I did think there was a weird resemblance to bush though, and they are cousins so...albeit distant, but still with all that inbreeding, it still shows lol

[kingmob]

Keep it in the family..

[celtic isis]

Keep it in the family..

haha exactly ;)

[tinfoil tom]

Nah, coincident ;) ;) ;)

[celtic isis]

Nah, coincident ;) ;) ;)

lol ;) they all just happened to fall into bed with one another, or use the same test tube, i don't know how they reproduce lol...all fell into the same blonde blue eyed virgin...lol

i guess if i ever do get any comebacks they will say, "ok so they're related, so what?"


so what? um if they're all the same family, think what that means for democracy, that it is the people who elect the leaders that LMFAO "represent us..." or that anyone can be president...that they are all opposing eachother, left and right...how can they really oppose when they are brothers, sisters, cousins...

;)

[halleyscomet]

Nah, coincident ;) ;) ;)

Actually, it's just an example of the whole "six degrees of separation" phenomenon. By the time you get to 9th and 10th cousins you're talking about time periods longer than the history of the USA. How many of YOU are in touch with your 6th, 7th or 8th cousins? If you're going back that far, you can probably connect most the Americans on this board to someone famous or part of "the system." If you go to 11th and 12th cousins you're talking about connecting most the whites in North America!

I wonder how many generations back you'd have to go to, for example, connect David Icke to the Rothchilds? 6? 7? 12?

This is a non-story cooked up by a genealogy website to boost it's image, nothing more.

[dmt head]

Actually, it's just an example of the whole "six degrees of separation" phenomenon. By the time you get to 9th and 10th cousins you're talking about time periods longer than the history of the USA. How many of YOU are in touch with your 6th, 7th or 8th cousins? If you're going back that far, you can probably connect most the Americans on this board to someone famous or part of "the system." If you go to 11th and 12th cousins you're talking about connecting most the whites in North America!

I wonder how many generations back you'd have to go to, for example, connect David Icke to the Rothchilds? 6? 7? 12?

This is a non-story cooked up by a genealogy website to boost it's image, nothing more.

This is the usual response I get when I mention geneolgy to my parents and my unaware friends. They do have a point, my mum would say oh everyones related at some point. After reading books on the subject its more sinister than that, and it does so happen and there are a lot of "coincidences" between all the people in power, now and in the past, so Id say do the research like celtic isis and eternal spirit and youd maybe see its more than just a coincidence. Its hard trying to give people certain facts like these as they usually have the same response, its a conspiracy, no doubt!

[halleyscomet]

This is the usual response I get when I mention geneolgy to my parents and my unaware friends. They do have a point, my mum would say oh everyones related at some point. After reading books on the subject its more sinister than that, and it does so happen and there are a lot of "coincidences" between all the people in power, now and in the past, so Id say do the research like celtic isis and eternal spirit and youd maybe see its more than just a coincidence. Its hard trying to give people certain facts like these as they usually have the same response, its a conspiracy, no doubt!

When you go back 8 or 9 generations, even in a country as big as the USA, yes, most people are related. That's not a conspiracy, it's just biology and mathematics. If one couple has four kids and each subsequent generation averages four kids, how many descendants will that couple have in 9 generations?

You can convince yourself that it's a conspiracy, or that there's something sinister in it, but in the end you're probably just as related to the movers and shakers as Obama.

I'm a nobody, born in the Midwest and living on the East Coast. I have no political power and no financial fortune. I'm sixth or seventh cousin to the German financiers who funded the French Revolution. I'm descend from the first European settlers to land in what later became Canada, an event that predates the Mayflower by a number of years. This makes me 8th or 9th cousin to many of the political heavyweights in Canada, yet none of them have ever heard of me, or would give a damn WHO I was if I tried to contact them.

I have 2nd and 3rd cousins twice removed who worked on the Manhattan project.

Thanks to some Irish ancestry on my Mother's side, I'm probably no more than 5th cousin from most of Boston, even though I never set foot in the city until I was in my early 20s.

6th and 7th cousin from the Kennedy family. I WISH that gave me some political power, but it doesn't.

Most of my 4th cousins on one branch are all rich enough to laugh at Donald Trump and make him shine their shoes. I'm descended from the son who had 13 kids, which pretty much killed the family fortune. Donald Trump's old socks probably cost more than my house.

Do a little research on your own family history. Go back 6, 7 or even 9 generations and see who else is descended from those distant ancestors.

You'll be surprised just how connected YOU are to the Illuminati.

[dmt head]

When you go back 8 or 9 generations, even in a country as big as the USA, yes, most people are related. That's not a conspiracy, it's just biology and mathematics. If one couple has four kids and each subsequent generation averages four kids, how many descendants will that couple have in 9 generations?

You can convince yourself that it's a conspiracy, or that there's something sinister in it, but in the end you're probably just as related to the movers and shakers as Obama.

I'm a nobody, born in the Midwest and living on the East Coast. I have no political power and no financial fortune. I'm sixth or seventh cousin to the German financiers who funded the French Revolution. I'm descend from the first European settlers to land in what later became Canada, an event that predates the Mayflower by a number of years. This makes me 8th or 9th cousin to many of the political heavyweights in Canada, yet none of them have ever heard of me, or would give a damn WHO I was if I tried to contact them.

I have 2nd and 3rd cousins twice removed who worked on the Manhattan project.

Thanks to some Irish ancestry on my Mother's side, I'm probably no more than 5th cousin from most of Boston, even though I never set foot in the city until I was in my early 20s.

6th and 7th cousin from the Kennedy family. I WISH that gave me some political power, but it doesn't.

Most of my 4th cousins on one branch are all rich enough to laugh at Donald Trump and make him shine their shoes. I'm descended from the son who had 13 kids, which pretty much killed the family fortune. Donald Trump's old socks probably cost more than my house.

Do a little research on your own family history. Go back 6, 7 or even 9 generations and see who else is descended from those distant ancestors.

You'll be surprised just how connected YOU are to the Illuminati.

Well you just repeated yourself in a more long winded way really. I dont have to explain myself any more as ive already done so in my previous post, I made my point. I dont need to make any more clarification as to why things are the way they are. I have my point of view and you have yours as have countless others. Ive heard a hundred stories similiar to yours, trying to deny that the illuminati and their bloodlines are real, and your argument is the same as the ones ive heard and Im really past that shit its an old argument thats that blatent I just cant be bothered tbh.

Its not, oh dont bother me with the facts my minds already made up naiveity, its just old hag and bloody obvious, incase you havent realised! And I have no intention of proving it to you, smarter people here can be bothered, Im personally past it, still pees me off though :confused: :D

[croquetplayer12]

General Robert E. Lee.
lololololololololololololololololol
HOW IRONIC IS THAT


...im related to Alexander Hamilton does that mean i can be president?

[celtic isis]

This is the usual response I get when I mention geneolgy to my parents and my unaware friends. They do have a point, my mum would say oh everyones related at some point. After reading books on the subject its more sinister than that, and it does so happen and there are a lot of "coincidences" between all the people in power, now and in the past, so Id say do the research like celtic isis and eternal spirit and youd maybe see its more than just a coincidence. Its hard trying to give people certain facts like these as they usually have the same response, its a conspiracy, no doubt!

cheers for that dmt head, well said :)

[celtic isis]

You can convince yourself that it's a conspiracy, or that there's something sinister in it, but in the end you're probably just as related to the movers and shakers as Obama.


in fairness, it's not even about conspiracy.

So it's ok for you that Bush and John Kerry were supposedly "opponents" when actually they are cousins...and also members of the shady elite Yale secret club skull and bones...brotherhood brothers as well as cousins...

It's ok for the clintons and bushes to be opponents on the outside, and yet giving eachother the handshakes, nods and winks and playing golf together (and even more...), it's ok for hilary clinton to be against obama, then suddenly all for him when the finger clicks and it's time to change pace on the chess board...

conspiracy LOL.

Ok people can be related going back generations, but these aren't just people are they. That's the point.

And they only admit to being the same family now...cause it's coming out and they have no other choice but to laugh it off...

Bush is in line to the throne of England FFS!!!

And that's ok is it? how many people do you think actually know about that fact? Or know that any of these people are related?

[celtic isis]

The fact is THESE POEPLE ARE ALL RELATED!!

And you don't have to go back too far at all to see that both parties have a shared family member...it's only a few branches up the tree...


Just thinking in my own family, i'm related to no one, if these people are related the way they are, it's bizarre, and even more bizarre that they all ended up in the positions that they are holding...

I think that's the main point, that not only are they all related, but the status they hold, they rule. Full stop.

[cluas]

Love in truth x

Thx Celtic :)

[halleyscomet]

How many of you have looked into who your 8th and 9th cousins are?

You assign a special status to the distant relatives of famous and powerful people and yet have no information about your own. It's easy to assume the worst without a frame of reference. Drawing conclusions without a frame of reference results in a warped, twisted world view.

Please, don't whip yourself into a frenzy of paranoia over what is, in reality, an unimportant bit of trivia.

[celtic isis]

How many of you have looked into who your 8th and 9th cousins are?

You assign a special status to the distant relatives of famous and powerful people and yet have no information about your own. It's easy to assume the worst without a frame of reference. Drawing conclusions without a frame of reference results in a warped, twisted world view.

Please, don't whip yourself into a frenzy of paranoia over what is, in reality, an unimportant bit of trivia.

um..the point is that THESE people are related, who gives a toss who our relatives are, WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME FAMILY HOLDING MAJOR POSITIONS GOVERNING THE ENTIRE WORLD and DECIDING ITS FUTURE.

I mean really my dear...


Well if Cheney's wife thinks it's important and VALID then so do we. After all, she has written a book about it, well they had to admit it sometime...

can't have people calling it conspiracy now can we.

[celtic isis]

I also notice you used the paranoia word. Just goes to show what level you are on and viewing this from.

oh please :)

[celtic isis]

Thx Celtic :)

you're very welcome my friend :)


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/FOX_Obama_related_to_Bush_Cheney_1017.html

Ginny Justice, a spokeswoman for Mrs. Cheney, told MSNBC that Obama is a descendant of French Huguenot Mareen Duvall, whose son wed the granddaughter of the Englishman Richard Cheney in the 1600's.

nice convenient little marriage that was eh. :rolleyes:

[celtic isis]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/news/regionalnews/dissing_cousins__obama__cheney.htm


Mrs. Cheney said that it was "an amazing American story that one ancestor . . . could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths."

Well that's laughable, considering they both are actually on the same path, working for the same brotherhood, and both holding what appear to be the highest positions in government.

In fairness, how can you argue with this? We all know they are loyal to the bortherhood, it's the only way they get into power, that and the bloodline. You cannot argue the secret society connection, if you do, then you are GREEN!!!!

Yes yes, i'm aware this doesn't count as research, i had the family tree and now i can't find it...i was amazed to see it doesn't actually have to go back that far to see the person uniting both bloodlines...and fake family cover names.

[celtic isis]

omg, it has even made it on Irish news!!! low and behold...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1017/uselection1.html

[celtic isis]

oh i can see your replying eh ;)

[celtic isis]

this is how these people think....


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=51&pictureid=496

[halleyscomet]

um..the point is that THESE people are related, who gives a toss who our relatives are, WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME FAMILY HOLDING MAJOR POSITIONS GOVERNING THE ENTIRE WORLD and DECIDING ITS FUTURE.


There's nothing special about his family tree. I didn't crunch the numbers before, but I'll do so now. Assume you start with a single individual. If you calculate 10 generations, that 10th generation will represent people who are 9th cousins.

For the sake of simplicity we'll assume an average of four children from each descendant who go on to reproduce. This is a conservative estimate, but it'll do for the moment. Generation 1 would be that guy in the 1600's. By the time you get to the 10th generation you have 262,144 direct descendants in the 10th generation alone. The geologies being quoted about also talk about being related by marriage. Assuming each person marries only once (Again, a very conservative estimate) we're talking about 524,288 persons in the 10th generation.

Now, many of the 262,144 spouses are going to have siblings. That kind of relationship is discussed in the quoted geologies above as well. IF we assume the spouses of the 10th generation have only ONE sibling each, and each of them are married (Again a VERY conservative assumption) we're talking about 1,048,576 people who would be claimed as sufficiently related to the original ancestor to be counted in these geologies. This ONLY takes into account the spouses and siblings of the 10th generation and ONLY takes into account ONE sibling per spouse.

Let's go with a more realistic assumption. Five kids per generation for the fist eight generations and three for the remainder. This takes into account the development of birth control, but ignores large modern families. We'll also assume each spouse in the 10th generation is from a family of three kids. This gets us 6,328,125 people who are as related to the original ancestor as claimed in the quoted articles.

This is STILL ignoring all descendants from extramarital affairs, second marriages or the rape of slaves. This STILL ignores ALL the spouses and siblings of the 2nd through 9th generations! Interracial marriage was relatively rare in the USA until the last generation or two, so much so that we can largely ignore it for the purposes of this calculation.

Now, let's take the descendants of the siblings of each spouse into account, as the geologies quoted above use them for determining Obama is related to, for example, the start of Tomb Raider.

Still assuming the 9th and 10th generations have only 3 kids per family, this gets us to 18,984,375 persons sufficiently related to the original ancestor to be used to draw a connection on the reporting genealogy web site.

The USA has about 300,000 citizens, 70% of whom are white. This translates into roughly 210,000 whites.

When you finish crunching the numbers using conservative estimates and ignoring affairs, interracial marriages and the descendants or raped slaves, roughly 30% of the USA's Caucasians can claim to be 9th cousins by the criteria used in the report everyone is talking about.

By the criteria used by the geology web site, if you are a white who was born in the USA, you have a 1 in 3 chance of being Obama's 9th cousin.

This means, 30% of the whites in the United States of America are, by the logic used in this thread, part of the elite cabal running the country.

[celtic isis]

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/about/7320.asp

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/pdfs/obama_bush.pdf

:D

[dane]

Sooo.. Hilary Clinton (Presidential Candidate) is related to Angelina Jolie (Actress)..But Jolie has been taken onboard the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND THE ZIONIST BACKED U.N..But shes an actress what would she know?..Blood Rule seems to be the connection here..prime example.

[grachtengordel]

I'm sixth or seventh cousin to the German financiers who funded the French Revolution.
I'm descend from the first European settlers to land in what later became Canada, an event that predates the Mayflower by a number of years.
This makes me 8th or 9th cousin to many of the political heavyweights in Canada, yet none of them have ever heard of me, or would give a damn WHO I was if I tried to contact them.

I have 2nd and 3rd cousins twice removed who worked on the Manhattan project.

Thanks to some Irish ancestry on my Mother's side, I'm probably no more than 5th cousin from most of Boston,

6th and 7th cousin from the Kennedy family. I WISH that gave me some political power, but it doesn't.[QUOTE]

names and dates please (quote sources and present the info in chart form, i don't just want a list)

[QUOTE=celtic isis;744618]http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=51&pictureid=496http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/ACF3555.jpg

That IS crowley's daughter, evil.

[celtic isis]

This means, 30% of the whites in the United States of America are, by the logic used in this thread, part of the elite cabal running the country.

Once again that is NOT THE POINT of what i'm putting across here, i'm just saying people like these can be related and it's only now that they're admitting it.

You can candy coat and deny this all you want, either way they have the power.

In fairness how can the Bush family be relatives of the British Royal family? where's your logic there?

[celtic isis]

Sooo.. Hilary Clinton (Presidential Candidate) is related to Angelina Jolie (Actress)..But Jolie has been taken onboard the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND THE ZIONIST BACKED U.N..But shes an actress what would she know?..Blood Rule seems to be the connection here..prime example.

I'm sure halleyscomet will have an explanation. :D

[celtic isis]

[QUOTE=halleyscomet;736900]I'm sixth or seventh cousin to the German financiers who funded the French Revolution.
I'm descend from the first European settlers to land in what later became Canada, an event that predates the Mayflower by a number of years.
This makes me 8th or 9th cousin to many of the political heavyweights in Canada, yet none of them have ever heard of me, or would give a damn WHO I was if I tried to contact them.

I have 2nd and 3rd cousins twice removed who worked on the Manhattan project.

Thanks to some Irish ancestry on my Mother's side, I'm probably no more than 5th cousin from most of Boston,

6th and 7th cousin from the Kennedy family. I WISH that gave me some political power, but it doesn't.[QUOTE]

names and dates please (quote sources and present the info in chart form, i don't just want a list)



That IS crowley's daughter, evil.

Yeah i know, she does look like him, we've been trying to find hard proof she is his kid...a "lovechild" apparently :eek:

I'll repost about this later.

[celtic isis]

When you go back 8 or 9 generations, even in a country as big as the USA, yes, most people are related. That's not a conspiracy, it's just biology and mathematics. If one couple has four kids and each subsequent generation averages four kids, how many descendants will that couple have in 9 generations?

You can convince yourself that it's a conspiracy, or that there's something sinister in it, but in the end you're probably just as related to the movers and shakers as Obama.

I'm a nobody, born in the Midwest and living on the East Coast. I have no political power and no financial fortune. I'm sixth or seventh cousin to the German financiers who funded the French Revolution. I'm descend from the first European settlers to land in what later became Canada, an event that predates the Mayflower by a number of years. This makes me 8th or 9th cousin to many of the political heavyweights in Canada, yet none of them have ever heard of me, or would give a damn WHO I was if I tried to contact them.

I have 2nd and 3rd cousins twice removed who worked on the Manhattan project.

Thanks to some Irish ancestry on my Mother's side, I'm probably no more than 5th cousin from most of Boston, even though I never set foot in the city until I was in my early 20s.

6th and 7th cousin from the Kennedy family. I WISH that gave me some political power, but it doesn't.

Most of my 4th cousins on one branch are all rich enough to laugh at Donald Trump and make him shine their shoes. I'm descended from the son who had 13 kids, which pretty much killed the family fortune. Donald Trump's old socks probably cost more than my house.

Do a little research on your own family history. Go back 6, 7 or even 9 generations and see who else is descended from those distant ancestors.

You'll be surprised just how connected YOU are to the Illuminati.

My husband has been having a read of this and said he'd reply :) (he is member on here but can't be bothered signing in to reply lol)

Remember he is french, not stupid OK, if the grammer isn't perfect!! :)

Your genealogy is a good example, you come from a family that have power and many of them still have it (whether it is financial or political). The fact you don't have that power means that some of your ancestors have lost or wasted it and it doesn't mean that the situation of all your related family who still have that power is just a coincidence.

For example:

I'm descended from the son who had 13 kids, which pretty much killed the family fortune.

Ok so the fortune was killed, if it wasn't you'd have some kind of power and it wouldn't be a concidence it's because of your ancestry.

The second point I'd like to focus on is that we can all make our genealogy tree (I myself had one done for my family done in the 70's and it came back 'till the king Louis XIV, so 'till the 17th century) and we won't all have 5 or 6 presidents related to us, we won't be all related to Kings or Princes, or Huge Financiers. The situation will be the reverse, if it happen it will look like an accident as it will be just an accident for the other families to lose their power.

The fact is that all those families stay together and get married together and so finally they all get related and they keep the power in the bloodline this way. It's even not a conspiracy, it's logical, when you have power and even more, some kind of particular genealogy, blue blood, you want to keep the blood blue and the power with it.

You even said it yourself, it's logical for them to be related, but on an even much deeper level. When your parents have money and power, they want you to continue the story, and to care about what they have built, you see this in everyday life with people who have money they don't want their son as heir marrying some girl who will bring nothing in the family...look at Princess Diana before she was princess...why was she selected, a 19 year old marrying an old fogie like Prince Charles.


And as celtic isis i'd like to add that lynn cheney seems to think it's relevant that they're all related, otherwie why write a book about it? And why NOW, right when the word bloodline is being synonymous with conspiracy...

I am descended from one of the biggest clans in Ireland, who then lost their power when the English invaded our country. And who were those English?
The feckin bloodline coming to steal any power that was left!

As if i care, i honestly would never want any power, it's not because of this that people are on this forum, we are against all this rule by elite. I know the real power is inside, now what staus you hold or possessions you have.

[lightgiver]

Speaking of bloodlines something is bugging me,is will smith the son of jesse jackson because they sure as hell look alike,;)

and i do you trace your family back? my auntie as i remember ,bless her no longer with us,but i am sure she stated that we had links to the Irish,maybe gypsy's? i would have to speak to mi dad to find out more,but yes interesting stuff and then all the tribes of israel story is that really true?

anyone any answers?:)

[celtic isis]

Speaking of bloodlines something is bugging me,is will smith the son of jesse jackson because they sure as hell look alike,;)

and i do you trace your family back? my auntie as i remember ,bless her no longer with us,but i am sure she stated that we had links to the Irish,maybe gypsy's? i would have to speak to mi dad to find out more,but yes interesting stuff and then all the tribes of israel story is that really true?

anyone any answers?:)

lol i don't have much answers of use at this point in time :o

lol why gypsys? :)

I'll ask hubby how he traced his family tree.

And will smith jesse jackson i used to think they looked remarkably alike...will have to look around for info on that, maybe can ask on the site i mentioned?

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/

or this one

http://www.genealogy.com/famousfolks/

[lightgiver]

lol i don't have much answers of use at this point in time :o

lol why gypsys? :)

I'll ask hubby how he traced his family tree.

And will smith jesse jackson i used to think they looked remarkably alike...will have to look around for info on that, maybe can ask on the site i mentioned?

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/

or this one

http://www.genealogy.com/famousfolks/

Gypsys= travellers,

also the tribes of Israel do you believe,and if so which tribe do you belong to.:)
I am just interested due to your avatar name;)

Thanks for the links. a bientot.

[lightgiver]

Any news :confused:;):D

[queenmaeve]

If you have any colonial ancestry in northeastern north america...more than likely you will be related to a president or a few. Go on to ancestry.com and look up famous relatives. I'm related to a few...like eisenhower, roosevelt and bush and guess what...I'm a loser! I guess that's quite fitting.
Do the research and you will find a first lady and/or president in your gene pool. I'm related to Jackie Bouvier Kennedy! Wow...aren't you impressed?;)

[tiamet2012]

iTS CHENYS cousin etc 9th Its walker johnny meadows then bush etc....and one thing straight grandfather died with a will in his pocket cause he didnt trust the family 33% of the shell mobile oil money texoco sunbank etc was to go to the family but noooo bush sr. said its not his signature but it was long story Obama got his inheritance from this and only few get it the ones.....etc..........so poor to rich and do what we say greed over Oil millions etc etc..........wow what a great family line....whould explain but take too long.............

[halleyscomet]

You know, a lot of the people discussed in these cute "bloodline" discussions rose up from poor or disadvantaged circumstances. Obama is a prime example. He was a drug using nobody, yet according to the theories being presented here his rise had more to do with an accident of ancestry than his own efforts and work.

I've been trying to figure out why you all cling to such a comical theory, that being one of the 30% to 60% of the US population related to one given 1600's immigrant somehow bestowed upon them an advantage. Then it hit me. Most of you are no better or worse off than I am. Economically I'll bet most the people on this forum are middle class or lower and you're looking for something other than your own choices to blame for your lack of power. Sure, there are folks who were born into power and wealth. Donald Trump comes to mind, George W Bush is another example. On the other hand a lot of people rose to where they are not through exploiting some obscure bloodline but through hard work and determination.

This bloodline nonsense just belittles the achievements of people who, let's be blunt here, worked harder than anyone here has. If you want money or power, go out and do the work needed to achieve it. Crying about Illuminati conspiracies to keep you down are just shoddy excuses for a lack of accomplishment. We make our own fortunes in life. Foolishness like these bloodline theories do nothing but keep the naive and easily discouraged from accomplishing anything.

Maybe that's the only real conspiracy here. Theories like these are cooked up not by people trying to get at some cosmic truth, but by people who want to give sad, pathetic losers and excuse for their failures. It's always easier if you can blame some vague conspiracy or secret bloodline for your failures than to own up to them yourself. Perhaps I'm doing all of you a disservice by pointing this out. Perhaps it would be more merciful to let you pretend you're not to blame for your lot in life.

Then again, perhaps it's my moral imperative to tell you the truth so you have the chance to open your eyes and see it.