druggalo
09-01-2009, 03:39 AM
http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama's_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_S peeches.pdf
has anyone here seen this ? i have been tryin to view it since david made the link in the obama fruad article. it seems to have been down since then and ive tried on differnt computers. the pennywise site works but not this particular one.
would be some neat shyt to read if anyone has it saved or another lynk
kimball13
09-01-2009, 05:06 AM
http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama's_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_S peeches.pdf
has anyone here seen this ? i have been tryin to view it since david made the link in the obama fruad article. it seems to have been down since then and ive tried on differnt computers. the pennywise site works but not this particular one.
would be some neat shyt to read if anyone has it saved or another lynk
http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama's_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_S peeches.pdf
the link is working,, im wondering if that is similar to the ww2 neuro-linguistics book i saw, ,
im not to versed on such things,, but there are web sites all over teaching this stuff,,,,,,,and for some reason i can tell when a crowd is influenced,,, i dont know why but i usualy can,,,,
i dont want ot go to indepth, but this is a problem because it becomes like computer logic, it is getting to the point where if people are told blue is red, and yellow is green, or 2+2=1111156.23?#@$,88,,,,, they agree and even when they walk out of a room thinking why did we just go along, and or agree, they shake there head ,and voice it,, yet then they just act like a breeze just blew by,, and go about there day, it is realy weird to watch, ive seen entire groups like this, im talking upwards to 50+ people being influenced through this stuff,,,,i,
I didnt read much of the article but i think i know where its going,,,,,,,,,i realy dont want to know to much on how to do it,,,,,,
just being able to see it, and do what i can to allow myself my own judgement, and hear others honest opinions, and such, is enough,,,,,,,,,,scares the shit out of me,, because ive ben able to see this going on since childhood....
i used to feel guilty and ashamed,
for thinking such things were possible
,, and i would give it some thought and scare myself,
then i would see it happening in the world,
i used to try to warn my mom and others growing up,
but nobody ever listened exept to say you were right.........
usualy by that time they were already sucked in, and there were so many times i was able to walk away in time,
Im sure that is why Mutwa Credo speaks what he speaks on this subject, were as Barack Obama is concerned, then there is that meating of the four presidents meating with the new one, not since 1981 has that happend,,,there was Carter, Bush sr, Clinton,Bush jr, and Barack,,,,,,,,,i noticed that when they stood in the oval office that there was a space enough physiclay between Carter and Bush Sr for Reagan,,,,it would apear as if they were trying to convey the great orator Ronald Reagan was there in spirit giving his blessing to Obama adding to the Obama mystic ,,,,,,,,,im telling you if the pope goes to washington a washes his feet, Madona becomes a nun for Obama, bill gates turns microsoft into non-pofit and free as well as donate his money and resorses to the economy and makes a vow of poverty to ensure God blessing obamas presidency,,,,,,,,,,i would not be suprised one bit, i would probley fall out of my chair laughing , im just that way about certain things,,,,,,,
kimball13
09-01-2009, 07:36 AM
there is alot about this stuff,,,,,,,from this scocialliguistics it looks like it goes into alot of what hes doing.
Sociolinguistics
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Sociolinguistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sociolinguistics is the study of the effect of any and all aspects of society, including cultural norms, expectations, and context, on the way language is used. Sociolinguistics overlaps to a considerable degree with pragmatics.
It also studies how lects differ between groups separated by certain social variables, e.g., ethnicity, religion, status, gender, level of education, age, etc., and how creation and adherence to these rules is used to categorize individuals in social class or socio-economic classes. As the usage of a language varies from place to place (dialect), language usage varies among social classes, and it is these sociolects that sociolinguistics studies.
The social aspects of language were in the modern sense first studied by Indian and Japanese linguists in the 1930s, and also by Gauchat in Switzerland in the early 1900s, but none received much attention in the West until much later. The study of the social motivation of language change, on the other hand, has its foundation in the wave model of the late 19th century. Sociolinguistics in the west first appeared in the 1960s and was pioneered by linguists such as William Labov in the US and Basil Bernstein in the UK.
For example, a sociolinguist might determine through study of social attitudes that a particular vernacular would not be considered appropriate language use in a business or professional setting. Sociolinguists might also study the grammar, phonetics, vocabulary, and other aspects of this sociolect much as dialectologists would study the same for a regional dialect.
The study of language variation is concerned with social constraints determining language in its contextual environment. Code-switching is the term given to the use of different varieties of language in different social situations.
William Labov is often regarded as the founder of the study of sociolinguistics. He is especially noted for introducing the quantitative study of language variation and change,[1] making the sociology of language into a scientific discipline.
Sociolinguistics differs from sociology of language in that the focus of sociolinguistics is the effect of the society on the language, while the latter's focus is on the language's effect on the society.
Speech community is a concept in sociolinguistics that describes a more or less discrete group of people who use language in a unique and mutually accepted way among themselves.
Speech communities can be members of a profession with a specialized jargon, distinct social groups like high school students or hip hop fans, or even tight-knit groups like families and friends. Members of speech communities will often develop slang or jargon to serve the group's special purposes and priorities.
[edit] Differences according to class
Sociolinguistics as a field distinct from dialectology was pioneered through the study of language variation in urban areas. Whereas dialectology studies the geographic distribution of language variation, sociolinguistics focuses on other sources of variation, among them class. Class and occupation are among the most important linguistic markers found in society. One of the fundamental findings of sociolinguistics, which has been hard to disprove, is that class and language variety are related. Members of the working class tend to speak less standard language, while the lower, middle, and upper middle class will in turn speak closer to the standard. However, the upper class, even members of the upper middle class, may often speak 'less' standard than the middle class. This is because not only class, but class aspirations, are important.
[edit] Class aspiration
Studies, such as those by William Labov in the 1960s, have shown that social aspirations influence speech patterns. This is also true of class aspirations. In the process of wishing to be associated with a certain class (usually the upper class and upper middle class) people who are moving in that direction socio-economically will adjust their speech patterns to sound like them. However, not being native upper class speakers, they often hypercorrect, which involves overcorrecting their speech to the point of introducing new errors. The same is true for individuals moving down in socio-economic status.
[edit] Social language codes
Basil Bernstein, a well-known British socio-linguist, devised in his book, 'Elaborated and restricted codes: their social origins and some consequences,' a social code system which he used to classify the various speech patterns for different social classes. He claimed that members of the middle class have ways of organizing their speech which are fundamentally very different from the ways adopted by the working class.
[edit] Restricted code
In Basil Bernstein's theory, the restricted code was an example of the speech patterns used by the working-class. He stated that this type of code allows strong bonds between group members, who tend to behave largely on the basis of distinctions such as 'male', 'female', 'older', and 'younger'. This social group also uses language in a way which brings unity between people, and members often do not need to be explicit about meaning, as their shared knowledge and common understanding often bring them together in a way which other social language groups do not experience. The difference with the restricted code is the emphasis on 'we' as a social group, which fosters greater solidarity than an emphasis on 'I'.
[edit] Elaborated code
Basil Bernstein also studied what he named the 'elaborated code' explaining that in this type of speech pattern the middle and upper classes use this language style to gain access to education and career advancement. Bonds within this social group are not as well defined and people achieve their social identity largely on the basis of individual disposition and temperament. There is no obvious division of tasks according to sex or age and generally, within this social formation members negotiate and achieve their roles, rather than have them there ready-made in advance. Due to the lack of solidarity the elaborated social language code requires individual intentions and viewpoints to be made explicit as the 'I' has a greater emphasis with this social group than the working class.
[edit] Minimal responses
One of the ways in which the communicative competence of men and women differ is in their use of minimal responses, i.e., paralinguistic features such as ‘mhm’ and ‘yeah’, which is behaviour associated with collaborative language use (Carli, 1990).[12] Men, on the other hand, generally use them less frequently and where they do, it is usually to show agreement, as Zimmerman and West’s (1975) study of turn-taking in conversation indicates.[13]
kimball13
09-01-2009, 07:42 AM
here is another good article on wikipedia:cool:
Covert hypnosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Covert Hypnosis is the ability to subtly communicate with another person's subconscious mind without them noticing. As it often takes place in the course of a seemingly regular conversation, it is also known as Conversational Hypnosis. The objective is to change the intended behaviour - a sales person, for example, telling the client how good she will feel buying the new product. An intentional use of carefully selected words, body language, intentional gestures that seem commonplace (pointing in a certain direction) and facial expressions (a frown to the buyer to convey the unspoken opinion that she is making a mistake) in order to covertly communicate with someone's subconscious mind. The final objective is to have the person make their own decision to change their mind.
It is a form of hypnosis attempting to achieve near hypnotic states in the listener (sometimes called "sleight of mouth"). [1]) In covert hypnosis the subject is unaware that the hypnotist is either a hypnotist, or hypnotising them, or that anything out of the ordinary is occurring.
Covert hypnosis is a phenomenon not too different from indirect hypnosis (as derived from Milton H. Erickson popularised as The Milton Model [1]) in style [2] but the defining feature is certainly the act of an individual subject becoming hypnotised and taking part in hypnotic phenomena without conscious effort/choice - covert hypnosis like "Ericksonian Hypnosis operates through covert and subtle means... to reach deeper levels of consciousness than are touched by the surface structure of language";[3] it is the concept that an individual, 'the hypnotist,' can control another individual's behavior via gaining rapport (co-operation of their attention - as without rapport covert hypnosis does not take place) [4] with the subject and then making suggestions which the subject isn't fully consciously aware the meaning of.