benjaminfreedman
07-01-2009, 03:38 PM
New to this reptilian thing. Though I'm tempted to write it off, I'm interested in a summary of the entire premise of reptilians living among us and SOLID, PROVABLE facts supporting this premise. As far as visual evidence goes, I don't care about any "evidence" that can be chalked up to digital glitches or manipulation, etc, even though it may NOT be a glitch (eyes shifting to all black or something weird with the tongue...I've not seen ANY footage that I found compelling...that may be different if I saw high quality tapes directly from the studio, etc). I'm interested in evidence that would hold up in a court of law (supposing the court was actually just!!).
It is my feeling that, EVEN IF there is a reptilian population among us, that it's counter-productive to try to expose it, at least for the time being, until people start waking up IN GENERAL to the fact that they are slaves. The reason being is that there many, many PROVABLE FACTS about the Zionist NWO, their control and their plans, that can be used to awaken the general population. You start talking about there being a reptilian race of people among us and you start to lose people by association who might otherwise start looking into the facts. IN FACT, if I was part of the NWO and I didn't want people to start waking up to the facts, I would start a DISINFO campaign where I would unabashedly and accurately state fact after fact after fact about what was really going on behind the scenes and THEN tie it in with "And the people behind it are really the offspring of aliens who fucked Bigbird...," SO THAT any time anyone came across the FACTS again via a reliable source, they'd dismiss it as a bunch of hogwash because they associate it with the Bigbird fuckers. Wow...that was a run-on sentance. Sorry. :) But that's my two cents.
Anway, I'm definitely interested in some responses here!
jesta_g
07-01-2009, 03:58 PM
heres a few posts I did across the forum on the reptilians. There are links in these posts that are definatly worth reading, in particular the book link "blue blood, true blood" hope this helps and of course raise a few more questions.....
1- it is plain common sense that there is other life out in the universe and on our "level" this is only the 3rd dimension so then add inter-dimensional beings on that list and it is very very veeeery probable that a humanoid reptilian race is possible along with many other species even some that we cant even imagine. the posibilties/varieties of life through even the "simple" understandings of dna are limitless. The "Macrobes" (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=txgLWoQ0wRI) are worth researching along the lines of this subject.
2- Alot of my judgement also stands ground with the thousands of children that have witnessed or had an encounter with these (and other) beings. I trust a child more than any adult.
3- DNA / Biology/ "evolution" etcetc all prove that a reptilian race (and millions even billions of other humanoid species) can exist.
The statitistics
- The number of galaxies. An estimated 50 billion galaxies are visible with modern telescopes and the total number in the universe must surely exceed this number by a huge factor, but we will be conservative and simply double it. That's 100,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe.
- The number of stars in an average galaxy. As many as hundreds of billions in each galaxy.
Lets call it just 100 billion.
That's 100,000,000,000 stars per galaxy.
- The number of stars in the universe (and growing).
So the total number of stars in the universe is roughly 100 billion x 100 billion.
That's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars, 10 thousand, billion, billion. Properly known as 10 sextillion. And that's a very conservative estimate.
- The number of stars that have planetary systems. The original extra-solar system planet hunting technology dictated that a star needed to be to close to us for a planet to be detected, usually by the stars 'wobble'. Better technology that allows us to measure the dimming of a stars brightness when a planet crosses its disk has now revolutionised planet hunting and new planets are being discovered at an ever increasing rate. So far (August 2003) around 100 have been discovered so we have very little data to work on for this estimate. Even so, most cosmologists believe that planetary formation around a star is quite common place. For the sake of argument let us say it's not and rate it at only one in a million and only one planet in each system, as we want a conservative estimate, not an exaggerated one. That calculation results in:
10,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe. Ten million, billion, as a conservative estimate.
- The number planets capable of supporting life. Let's assume that this is very rare among planets and rate it at only one in a million. Simple division results in:
10,000,000,000 planets in the universe capable of producing life. Ten billion!
For another approach I recommend The Drake Equation. This states that the number of communicating civilisations in our galaxy (note, our Galaxy only, not the universe) likely depends on a number of factors which must combine to yield a habitable planet where life has the chance to develop to a certain level of technological know-how. These factors include the rate of formation of stars like the Sun, the fraction of those with planets, the fraction of Earth- like planets, the fraction of such planets where life develops, the fraction of those where life becomes intelligent, the fraction of intelligent species who can communicate in a way we could detect, and the lifetime of the communicating civilisations. As you may imagine, There is a lot of debate about reasonable values for most of these factors.
Frank Drake's own estimate puts the number of communicating civilisations in just our Galaxy alone at 10,000.
In order to answer the question of the existence of extraterrestrial life, it need exist on only ONE other planet. Given those odds, how can it not exist?
4- There were dinosaurs with opposable thumbs, a key to evolution, simlar to humans. If man evolved from from miocene ape (which we did not, see this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36465&page=10) for a handful of details i have pointed out on the domestication of man) in only ten of thousands of years then within the millions of years that dinosaurs existed there would have been plenty of time for evolution to take its course inwhich a humanoid "reptilian" could have lived.
5- throughout history all around the world there are accounts of a lizard/reptilian race ("gods") that bred with man and genetically altered our dna and came from the stars or from underground.
- The Nu khua (dragon kings) of china who built the Pyramids across forbiddon province's. The Nu khua are said to be a "serpent" race that came from the stars.
-the Nagas of india and the pacific islands who are describe as being a lizard race that came from the land of Mu (Lemuria) and taught knowledge to the priests of man. Mu was said to have been destroyed (read the mahabharata) during a great war between the races of the Nagas and the ancient masters who were described as being blonde haired and blue eyed.
- The Chitauri of Africa, a "reptilian" race said to have interbred and created modern man. the chitauri are spoken of throughout african history.
-Djedhi of ancient khem (egypt) were the "serpent" kings who interbred within their bloodlines and were said to being shapeshifting reptilians.
-Tanipwa of new zealand (http://www.geocities.com/rigvedsamhita/vedicnz.htm), the same race as the "Nagas" that came from the land of Mu.
this is only a handful of hundreds of historical accounts that speak of reptilian beings ("gods" to many) who either came to the planet from the stars or lived underground, i highly suggest reading Flying Serpents and Dragons: The story of mankinds reptilian past (http://books.google.com/books?id=2TtOjwtbXG8C&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=Flying+Serpents+and+Dragons:+The+story+of+manki nd's+reptilian+past+revealed&source=web&ots=hCKJhEfHme&sig=gzszN83tIu8SK-XcDDDPxEbbj58&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA5,M1)By R.A. Bouley.
and a wee bit more quickly...
Ancient references to reptiles and serpents
In the Americas several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings. There are historical accounts about reptiloids devouring human children, and also tales of Serpents of Wisdom enlightening Humankind (such as the mayan story of Gukumatz).
The Mayans speak of a Reptilian species, referred to often as "Iguana-Men", who descended from the sky to take control of their civilisation, teaching them the art of pyramid building as well as demanding human sacrifice.
The Hopi refer to a race of Reptilians called the Sheti, or Snake-Brothers, who live underground. The Cherokee and other American Indian peoples also refer to Reptilian races, as well as their origins in Atlantis
In ancient Greece Cecrops, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake.
The Chinese, Japanese and Europeans extensively speak throughout their history of beings such as Dragons (both physical and non-physical forms thereof), Vampires, Kappa, and others. The first Emperor of China, Huang-Ti, was said to be part Dragon, and was said to be born looking like a Reptilian. It was also said that his mother was impregnated by a beam of light emanating from the star Alpha Draconis, which Stewart Swerdlow and others claim is the home star system of the Draco Reptilian species.
In Japan underground bases where the Dragon Kings live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of 'Dragons'. (there are also many other reptilian races referred to, such as the Kappa).
In the Middle-East, Reptilian beings ranging from certain Jinn to Dragons and Serpent-Men, have been spoken of since ancient times. In one of the apocryphal books purporting to be the lost Book of Jasher, a serpent race is described.
In Australia the aborigines speak of a reptilian race which lives underneath the Earth and governs over men. The Aboriginal chiefs have spoken of going into the Earth where these beings resided. There they claim there is extensive technology. The Aborigines say that they are descended from a race of dragon-humans that once lived on an enormous continent that spanned the entire Pacific ocean, and that most of it sank beneath the waves in ancient times, but that Australia is a remnant of it, and this is why there are so many reptilian animals there.
6- The hundreds of writers/documentors from all walks of life such as science,history, anthropology, archeology, geography etc that have researched and documented thousands of sources and produced many books on the subject.
Here are a few books worth reading (Note there are many many more books that provide incredible evidence to support the existence of these reptilian beings and much more)...
Blue Blood True Blood (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17a.htm)
The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17c.htm#Montauk:%20The%20Alien%20Connectio n)
Atlantis, Alien visition and Genetic Manipulation (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6056789081969524094)
7- Men such as Phil Schneider (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-dw-vTclJ8o)who have incredible accounts of first hand encounters with not just a reptilian race but many other seperate races. If you have not come across phil schneider yet then I seriously suggest doing so, Phil worked on the underground bases across america including Dulce and "Area 51", He was later killed, as he weeks before hand had "predicted"/spoke of during many seminars/talks before his death. He also had scars and bodily disfigurement due to said encounters that were violent.
There are plenty of other individuals that claim or have further proof to support the existence of these "reptilian" beings.
8- Our genetics/DNA and physical biology entirely suggests manipulation.This in itself is many months of research alone. The molecular biology of the human race is an anomaly even on its own which supports what is being said by the ancient cultures. We were genetically manipulated by a previous race of beings who are described as "reptilian" among many seperate species.
Do I believe the reptilian exist? No!
Is there plenty of evidence to support they exist? Yes!
I have a very good idea if/how they exist and I will remain open minded until the truth is revealed. however one thing i will stand by is that out there in the universe there i a reptilian race of beings. whether they have been or are still on earth I dont know however there is plenty in histry to suggest they have.
It is clear that it is an interesting subject and the fact we are conversing on the idea is good enough however It is plain ignorance to state that a reptilian Humanoid race does not exist. Do a lil research, there are thousands of sources to choose from.
What I have pointed out in this post is only the tip of the iceberg to the evidence there is that proves the existence of these beings....
Or is your judgement based on "i havnt seen it so it doesnt exist" ? if so then .....
I THINK......
GRAVITY/SOUNDWAVES/RADIOWAVES/HEATWAVES/MAGNETIC FIELDS/ATOMS/DARK MATTER/UV RAYS/INFRARED/RADIATION/ELECTRICITYAND AIR!
(just to name a wee list)
ALL DO NOT EXIST!!!
why ? .................BECAUSE I CANT SEE THEM!
YES THATS RIGHT! i dont believe you that gravity exists or that air exists nope i dont trust any of you at all. nope atoms arnt anywhere! neither are soundwaves all a figment of the imagination
OH WAIT I have more;
I THINK;
elephants,giraffes, eskimo people, america, japan (shit lets throw nearly every country in the world in there as ive not travelled much) , rockets, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
ALL DO NOT EXIST!!!! BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEE THEM!!!
i dont care if thousands or millions of you have seen any of these or interacted with them I CANT OR HAVE NOT SEEM THEM ....... EVER!! so dont tell me they exist!!! and im not gonna prove my self right in this because I HAVNT SEEN THEM AND SURELY THE MAJORITY OF WORLD HAS NOT SEEN THESE THINGS ALSO!!
NOPE NO SUCH THING AS AIR I DONT SEE IT, NOPE NO ELEPAHANTS (EVEN IF THERE ARE PHOTOS, PHOTOSHOP DOES A GREAT JOB ) I MEAN COME ON UV LIGHT HOW SILLY OF YOU ALL.
Seeing is most definatly not believing.
there are multiple species of the "reptilian" race, the same with any species, the reptilians of this planet, earth, were created by the Ari-An race (Known as the annunaki, a shapeshifting race who themselves were created by the ancient Sirian race of "reptilians"). These earth-reptilians were the original slaves to the "gods" (Ari-An's) that rebelled and were forced underground prior a huge war that took place thousands of years ago on this planet and throughout the galaxy however it is far more complex than simply this, there is alot of evidence to support this and much more, one must dig deep enough to find it.
Heres is a link to another thread which has alot of info in one post, sadly i cant get the post up here as it is to big to post. though all you need to do is scroll down to post numer 10 - http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45480
hope this brings you towards a better understanding. :)
aya_rei
07-01-2009, 04:24 PM
New to this reptilian thing. Though I'm tempted to write it off, I'm interested in a summary of the entire premise of reptilians living among us and SOLID, PROVABLE facts supporting this premise. As far as visual evidence goes, I don't care about any "evidence" that can be chalked up to digital glitches or manipulation, etc, even though it may NOT be a glitch (eyes shifting to all black or something weird with the tongue...I've not seen ANY footage that I found compelling...that may be different if I saw high quality tapes directly from the studio, etc). I'm interested in evidence that would hold up in a court of law (supposing the court was actually just!!).
It is my feeling that, EVEN IF there is a reptilian population among us, that it's counter-productive to try to expose it, at least for the time being, until people start waking up IN GENERAL to the fact that they are slaves. The reason being is that there many, many PROVABLE FACTS about the Zionist NWO, their control and their plans, that can be used to awaken the general population. You start talking about there being a reptilian race of people among us and you start to lose people by association who might otherwise start looking into the facts. IN FACT, if I was part of the NWO and I didn't want people to start waking up to the facts, I would start a DISINFO campaign where I would unabashedly and accurately state fact after fact after fact about what was really going on behind the scenes and THEN tie it in with "And the people behind it are really the offspring of aliens who fucked Bigbird...," SO THAT any time anyone came across the FACTS again via a reliable source, they'd dismiss it as a bunch of hogwash because they associate it with the Bigbird fuckers. Wow...that was a run-on sentance. Sorry. :) But that's my two cents.
Anway, I'm definitely interested in some responses here!
That's my feeling too, so I'm looking forward to the answers others are willing to give concerning your inquiry.
meksar
08-01-2009, 04:36 PM
This video is pretty good, i personally think they have told us that this is going if you look at the amount of hints in Hollywood,comic books and cartoons.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MfIts4EJtpY
darketernal
08-01-2009, 08:37 PM
A number of us have talked about our experiences on the forum, although I know a couple who will NOT post their stories in the open forum, and I respect their right to privacy. Myself and Mariag both talk of our experiences seeing shapeshifts in the reptilian family members stickie at the top of the forum.
Have you read any of Icke's books on the subject? The Biggest Secret gives a rather large amount of background and research on the reptilians.
I know this is not what you asked for, but David has written a rather massive book on just this subject and probably doesn't feel a pressing need to keep explaining it over and over again when he has already published the material for anyone to see. Its the same with mine and other people's stories as well. We have given our material in stickies for anyone to read in a forum open for anyone with internet to read, and do not feel a pressing need to type 5 pages in every single thread titled "Prove to me they exist" or "Why do you believe in reptilians?"
If you are looking for absolute proof, you won't find it here. Just as you will not find absolute proof for anything you learned in grade school, or your parents taught you as a child. Humans do not deal in proof. They deal in appeal to authority, and accept what they are taught. The younger the age of the data being programed in, the more difficult it is to remove it, unless absolutely proven false.
simmo
09-01-2009, 12:40 AM
As far as solid proof goes, I remember reading something a while back that seemed promising to me but I never heard anything more about it..
I struggle to remember the details but it was something like a report prepared for the military/government on how to re-take over control of an underground military base, presumably because it has been overrun by greys etc. There was one section in the report where a computer programmer/hacker type person managed to somehow hack his way into the (wireless?) network of security cameras in an underground base and had captured images of ALL SORTS of things, reptilian and all. Since then I've never been able to recover anymore information on this, though the implications were huge because theoretically this could be done above ground on any base and who knows the things that you would see.