The USA - A Country Founded On Paganism

[december]

A quote:

The Declaration of Independence, a Pagan document

Although strictly not a lawful document, the Declaration of Independence, a pre-government document, revealed the first attempt by the American colonists to establish their own independence from Great Britain. The Declaration also mentions god where the religious-right of modern times have tried to use as evidence for their Christian god. But does the god of the Declaration speak about a Biblical god? No, not at all. Clearly the god mentioned describes a Pagan concept. Lets look at the Declaration's words directly:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Thomas Jefferson thought of himself as a scientist more than he did a politician. Consider that the "Laws of Nature" describe a materialist viewpoint, many times referred to as Newton's laws in the years following Newton's discovery of the laws of gravity, light, and calculus mathematics. (Thomas Jefferson greatly admired Isaac Newton and anyone who visits Monticello will see the influence he had on Jefferson.) Clearly Jefferson intended "Nature's God," not to refer to the personal god of superstitious Christianity, but of a physical god of nature, the laws of physics-- Nature's God. In 1809 Jefferson wrote, "Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science, by rendering them my supreme delight." Clearly Jefferson thought of Nature as God.

But even if you do not feel persuaded that Nature's God means the Laws of Nature and you insist that it refers to a supernatural god, then you still cannot use it to support a Judeo-Christian god. Why? Because to call the God of the Bible as Nature's God would not only contradict the Bible but would constitute heresy in the minds of 18th century Christian leaders of both the Protestant and Catholic faith. Nature's God describes a Pagan concept because nature describes the world. The Biblical concept of nature describes the earth (the world), the planets, plant, man and animal as nature, but certainly not as a part of God. According to Christianity God and Jesus come from above. The God of Christianity does not come from this world:

The alleged Jesus said, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world." [John 8:23] and "My kingship is not of this world..." [John 18:36]

But to the Pagans, many gods of nature exist. The Egyptian, Hindu, Greek and Roman religions describe a plethora of gods of nature. Below gives just a few examples of Pagan nature gods from various religions:


A Few Examples of Pagan Nature Gods

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[december]

If USA is a country which was founded on Paganism than it explains the symbolism of Washington D.C.:

http://www.stariq.com/contentimages/AstroDC-banner.jpg


In his book, The Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capital, David Ovason describes in great detail the astrological underpinnings of Washington, D.C. and its connection to the sign of Virgo and the ancient Goddess mysteries. Ovason stresses that the Masons, who were among the city's architects and planners and who were present at the groundbreaking foundation ceremonies, were knowledgeable about astrology. In the tradition of ancient astrologers, they would have recognized the link between the stars and the destiny of cities.

The most recent New Moon that occurred on Monday, September 17th was at 24 degrees of Virgo. Ovason cites 24 degrees of Virgo as a “critical degree” that repeatedly recurs in the city's most important horoscopes. In the federal city's founding horoscope of April 21, 1791, the day the city foundation stone was laid, Virgo was on the ascendant, with Jupiter rising at 23 degrees Virgo. On October 13, 1792, the day the foundation stone for the White House was laid, both the moon and the North node were conjunct at 23 degrees Virgo. “On September 18th, 1793, when President George Washington in his role as Grand Master laid the foundation stone for the Capitol,” writes Ovason, “the Sun was in 24 degrees of Virgo, and thus reflected the Virgoan nature of the new city. When the cornerstone for the Washington Monument was laid July 4th, 1848, the moon went into Virgo; more importantly, the north node was at 25 Virgo.”

“According to medieval Arab astrologers,” writes Ovason, “this degree had a particular importance: it marked that point in the zodiac where the Moon was thought to promote the greatest happiness and well-being. We must presume, then, that the intention behind the choice of moment was that this beneficial influence would be transmitted into Washington, D.C.”

http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0002943.HTM

[eternal_spirit]

Let's face it as Icke said Christianity is Paganism revisited.

Isn't George Bush a born again Christian, Satanist, skull and Boner and freemason which all probably have thier roots in Paganism.

[december]

Let's face it as Icke said Christianity is Paganism revisited.

Isn't George Bush a born again Christian, Satanist, skull and Boner and freemason which all probably have thier roots in Paganism.

Every religion has its roots in Paganism. Even the cross used to be a Pagan symbol.
So, I just don't understand why is this symbolism supposed to be scary?

[eternal_spirit]

Every religion has its roots in Paganism. Even the cross used to be a Pagan symbol.
So, I just don't understand why is this symbolism supposed to be scary?


Because alot of us are told about Jesus and the crucifixion from an early age, not to mention all the other people who have been crucified.

The inverted cross of Satanism, The Crossroads rites of the Masons etc, khali( bad ass Goddess bitch) is also to be found at the Crossroads in Hinduism.

Princess Diana died at the Crossroads where the ley lines meet.

Sacred Geometry, Equinoxes, Soltices are marked by the four points of the cross. This would of been man's first attempt to form a clock based on the movements of the Solar system which relates to Stonehenge and other places. Druids paganism???

[titurel]

Every religion has its roots in Paganism. Even the cross used to be a Pagan symbol.
So, I just don't understand why is this symbolism supposed to be scary?
Many religions that pay lip service to the Bible developed out of the Kabalah, the Ancient Mystery School teachings and Paganism because the elite realised that the best way to suppress the Bible, which actually argues against Paganism, etc. and revelas their agenda, etc., was to present it in a false light. The illuminati held a "black flame" up to the Bible and substituted their own teachings, thus brainwashing the masses to believe things about the Bible that were simply not true because the masses were hand fed what to believe. That's why the Roman Church resisted the translation of the Bible into native languages. The elite simply never wanted to spread understanding of their beliefs because otherwise, people would see through their agenda. They claim to love the light but they are actually very afraid of it. The resistance to the printing press is another example. However, we are now living in the age of revealing, also known as the Apocalypse where everything is being dragged into the light!

[december]

Because alot of us are told about Jesus and the crucifixion from an early age, not to mention all the other people who have been crucified.

In other words this is just a part of tradition, a custom.
It is a part of Western culture which was shaped by the Vatican...

Correct?



The inverted cross of Satanism

Can you explain that? What is it?

Satanism is a part Christian terminology by the way...

:)

Why does the Church tell people some spooky stories about inverted cross?
Is it because the so-called Holy Fathers want you to stay with them?

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Many religions that pay lip service to the Bible developed out of the Kabalah, the Ancient Mystery School teachings and Paganism

Hello, titurel.
I disagree with you. :)

The world religions did NOT develop out of the Cabala. And Paganism has nothing to do with it.
By the way, what "Ancient Mystery School" are you referring to?
Egyptian?



because the elite

Can you be more specific? Who are they?


....realised that the best way to suppress the Bible, which actually argues against Paganism, etc. and revelas their agenda, etc., was to present it in a false light.

Yes.
The Bible (see the Deuteronomy in the Old Testament) commands the Jews to destroy Pagan temples and to kill Pagan priests.



....The illuminati held a "black flame" up to the Bible and substituted their own teachings, thus brainwashing the masses to believe things about the Bible that were simply not true because the masses were hand fed what to believe.
That's why the Roman Church resisted the translation of the Bible into native languages.

OK... So?...
What does it mean "held a "black flame" up to the Bible"?
And where did you read about it?

So, if I understand you correctly, some people - whom you call the Illuminati - don't want the masses to discover that the Bible tells the Jews to destroy Paganism?

Is that it?

[titurel]

Is that it?
I have to say, I disagree with you too. The world's religions are all a mask for ancient Babylonian, Egyptian Mystery, etc. School teachings. There are examples in the OT where Pagan temples were commanded to be destroyed but there is no instruction that that should be the case today. The reason for it in OT times was because of the practises that were taking place in those temples, such as human sacrifices.

What does it mean "held a "black flame" up to the Bible"?

It simply means to not shed any light or understanding. Knowledge is power, which is why the elite endeavour to keep their knowledge to themselves, while at the same time, spread lies and disinformation to conceal their knowledge. That is what Freemasonry is all about, for example!

So, if I understand you correctly, some people - whom you call the Illuminati - don't want the masses to discover that the Bible tells the Jews to destroy Paganism?

I'm not referring to the Illuminati that was formed by Weishaupt but to the 'illuminati', the shadow elite who manipulate religions and governments. Btw, even though there are reports of Pagan temples that were ordered to be destroyed in the OT, the Jews were never told to destroy Paganism and there were many times when the Jews adopted Pagan customs and traditions also. The 'illuminati' don't want their NWO agenda revealed or their plans brought to the fore for widespread public debate. There may come a time when that will occur but by then, they will have practically already achieved their aims. It's already happening.... and this is coinciding with the much prophesied about Apocalypse.

[december]

I have to say, I disagree with you too. The world's religions are all a mask for ancient Babylonian, Egyptian Mystery, etc. School teachings.

But this is an official (the Illuminati) concept. The other sourses of information have been suppressed by these people.

And by the way, what are these "Egyptian Mystery Schools"? :)
It sure sounds cool, but what do we know about them?

What about India's Vedas, titurel?
All these Mystery Schools with their Qaballahs is nothing compare to Vedas.

Also, I can asure you that there are many books are held hidden in Siberia which most of the world know nothing about....
These books are kept in Siberia for thousands of years.

Find out what Helena Blavatsky says about the library of Alexandria...

Anyway... This thread is about US actually...

[titurel]

And by the way, what are these "Egyptian Mystery Schools"? It sure sounds cool, but what do we know about them?

If you're asking that question, I can't help you other than to read up on the subject... there are 100's of books, films and audio files on the subject.

Anyway... This thread is about US actually...

I agree the US was founded on Pagan principles...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/669/washingtonpentagramdetaek7.jpg

A "broken" or "open" pentagram - a symbol of dark magic, according to this misanthropic Gnostic group of the black flame:

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/slayermagazine/interview_mlo2.html

[december]

If you're asking that question, I can't help you other than to read up on the subject... there are 100's of books, films and audio files on the subject.

Would you be so kind to recommend at least 10?


I agree the US was founded on Pagan principles...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/669/washingtonpentagramdetaek7.jpg

A "broken" or "open" pentagram - a symbol of dark magic, according to this misanthropic Gnostic group of the black flame:

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/slayermagazine/interview_mlo2.html

This is a Christian point of view. Correct? The name of the site says it all - angelfire.com :)

But the Christians say that the pentagram itself is a satanic symbol.
Or rather the inverted pentagram is. I think you can actually draw any line on the map and interpret it in any way you like.

And who actually knows what Dark Magic is?... :rolleyes:

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So, let me ask you - is OWL a satanic symbol as well?

:)

http://www.infowars.com/headline_photos/April/washingtondc.jpg

http://robodoon.com/images/Dollar%20owl.gif

[december]

Btw, even though there are reports of Pagan temples that were ordered to be destroyed in the OT, the Jews were never told to destroy Paganism and there were many times when the Jews adopted Pagan customs and traditions also.

This is not true!

Anyone can open the Old Testament, find Deuteronomy and read it.
Besides, the Jewish god even tells the Jews that they will be punished with horrible diseases and death if they don't do what he says.

[adramelech]

The US was founded on the principles of the oldest Babylonian mysteries, from which all "religions", including both elite practices and mainstream organized religions, are founded - this includes the wide range of spiritual traditions lumped under the title of "paganism" by Christianity. Most of these are products of imitation, some by design. Symbols get adopted and their meanings blurred. What a Christian teaches is an "evil" or "scary" symbol really shouldn't matter to anyone, because a well-researched person understands that Christianity, Judaism and the rest of the older world religions are all founded upon the same principles. If modern Christian culture tells you to go running when you see a pentagram, just laugh - you know that the cross (a sun symbol) is just as "occult" as anything they attack.

The "occult" is demonized because the people who wield its power don't want you to understand it, they want you to fear it.

[a fine naked fellow]

Amen brotha, or I might say amen Ra

[titurel]

December wrote:

> Would you be so kind to recommend at least 10?

David Icke alone has produced more than 10 works regarding the ancient mysteries and that's only mentioning David Icke!

December wrote:

> This is a Christian point of view. Correct? The name of the site says it all - angelfire.com
>
> But the Christians say that the pentagram itself is a satanic symbol.

Satanism and black magic is not exclusively a biblical perspective because Satanism and black magic is merely the result of the reptilian presence on our planet that has been recorded by cultures the world over, over a vast period of time.

December wrote:

> And who actually knows what Dark Magic is?...

Black magic is the science of harnessing power from reptilian beings for selfish ends.

I wrote:

> Btw, even though there are reports of Pagan temples that were ordered to be destroyed in the OT, the Jews were never told to destroy Paganism and there were many times when the Jews adopted Pagan customs and traditions also.

December wrote:

> This is not true!

Find me one verse that says Jews must destoy Paganism... there isn't one! It's also true that at times, the Jews adopted Pagan customs and traditions!

[titurel]

adramelech wrote:

> The US was founded on the principles of the oldest Babylonian mysteries, from which all "religions", including both elite practices and mainstream organized religions, are founded - this includes the wide range of spiritual traditions lumped under the title of "paganism" by Christianity.

Agreed! All organised religions have roots in Babylon.

adramelech wrote:

> If modern Christian culture tells you to go running when you see a pentagram, just laugh

It doesn't matter whether you see a broken pentagram or not. It's how it is used that is the issue. In Washington D.C., the broken pentagram is used to draw down spiritual energy for negative purposes.

Masonic author Manly P. Hall wrote:

"The pentagram is used extensively in black magic, but when so used its form always differs in one of three ways: The star may be broken at one point by not permitting the converging lines to touch; it may be inverted by having one point down and two up; or it may be distorted by having the points of varying lengths. When used in black magic, the pentagram is called the "sign of the cloven hoof," or the footprint of the Devil. The star with two points upward is also called the "Goat of Mendes," because the inverted star is the same shape as a goat's head." (THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES, by Manly P. Hall)

adramelech wrote:

> you know that the cross (a sun symbol) is just as "occult" as anything they attack.

You are correct, the cross is a Pagan symbol. It should also be remembered that organised religions, including so-called Christian religions, were created for the purposes of mass mind control by the reptilian elite!

[titurel]

december wrote:

So, let me ask you - is OWL a satanic symbol as well?

Many people do regard the owl symbol as perverse, especially when they see the world's elite worshipping it at Bohemian Grove. :)

[bigus_dickus]

first site you quoted is self defined as anti-christian.

second one is about astrology and new age.

agendas mean propaganda. you can believe propaganda if you like, but it doesn't get you anywhere, it has a purpose.

[titurel]

first site you quoted is self defined as anti-christian.

second one is about astrology and new age.

agendas mean propaganda. you can believe propaganda if you like, but it doesn't get you anywhere, it has a purpose.
But as I wrote above, Satanism and black magic is not exclusively a biblical perspective because Satanism and black magic is merely the result of the reptilian presence on our planet that has been recorded by cultures the world over, over a vast period of time.

[adramelech]

It doesn't matter whether you see a broken pentagram or not. It's how it is used that is the issue.

Oh, I know that. The concept seems to be lost on december, however.

[bigus_dickus]

But as I wrote above, Satanism and black magic is not exclusively a biblical perspective because Satanism and black magic is merely the result of the reptilian presence on our planet that has been recorded by cultures the world over, over a vast period of time.

i thought that the word was paganism. this is a word diverted by christians to mean pantheistic and nature worshiping religions. satanism is not one of those. and paganism does not mean that, pagan originally meant a village or city dweller, so literally all countries are founded on pagans.

this guy is trying to bash christianity, even considering that christianity is nothing but catholicism, by using a christian term that categorizes religions. ok.

[eternal_spirit]

What's Wicca then is that pagan too?

[titurel]

i thought that the word was paganism. this is a word diverted by christians to mean pantheistic and nature worshiping religions. satanism is not one of those. and paganism does not mean that, pagan originally meant a village or city dweller, so literally all countries are founded on pagans.

this guy is trying to bash christianity, even considering that christianity is nothing but catholicism, by using a christian term that categorizes religions. ok.
Regardless of the defintion of paganism, Satanism is the veneration of the Reptilian beings that lord over our planet. According to Malachi Martin, the Vatican is controlled by an inner group of Satanists. These people control in big politics, big religion and big business and they want to rule the world in their NWO. That is what the political NWO agenda is all about. No wonder the Bible denounces the Vatican as the whore who fornicates ontop of the "seven hills". That's the Reptilian shape-shifting Serpent Brotherhood for you!

[eternal_spirit]

Regardless of the defintion of paganism, Satanism is the veneration of the Reptilian beings that lord over our planet. According to Malachi Martin, the Vatican is controlled by an inner group of Satanists. These people control in big politics, big religion and big business and they want to rule the world in their NWO. That is what the political NWO agenda is all about. No wonder the Bible denounces the Vatican as the whore who fornicates ontop of the "seven hills". That's the Reptilian shape-shifting Serpent Brotherhood for you!


Christianity came way before roman catholicism. The Romans crowned Jesus and called him King of the Jews with the thorned crown. then set up the Vatican as their headquaters hundreds of years later.....and decide to worship Jesus, it's bleedin confusing.

But didn't the jews have their own God's anyhow?? around the time Jesus was alive.

Satan the name is relativley new, the Egyptian's would sacrafice humans to SET. Satanism would seem to be a different name same game but a more modern version of worshipping evil forces.

Some believe in reps (demons same thing I think) but if you believe this shouldn't you also believe in good angels???

[adramelech]

I made some pretty massive posts on the old forum regarding "Satan" and "Satanism" and how the words are employed by the elite to deceive people. The term "satan" originally meant detractor or opposer. This was from the perspective of the "gods" - a "satan" was one who opposed their rule and hegemony. The elite pulled a giant con by totally reversing the roles played in the "Garden of Eden" story by painting the liberator and knowledge-giver of mankind as "evil". The original satan was Enki, opposed to the "god" Enlil. There are all kinds of things to get into regarding this trick, especially the symbolism involved. They duped the population into worshipping "the Light".

Although I don't like the term "Satanism" referring to ancient Babylonian rituals and spiritual beliefs worshipping the "gods", I understand that the modern, media-warped vision of what "Satanism" is reflects these beliefs exactly. This is part of the deception.

Some believe in reps (demons same thing I think) but if you believe this shouldn't you also believe in good angels???

I would hope that most people researching reptilian entities will have moved beyond the simplistic religious trappings that the elite sold to humanity thousands of years ago to encourage worship and devotion. There's a simple explanation that doesn't require any kind of dogma. See below.

[titurel]

Christianity came way before roman catholicism. The Romans crowned Jesus and called him King of the Jews with the thorned crown. then set up the Vatican as their headquaters hundreds of years later.....and decide to worship Jesus, it's bleedin confusing.

But didn't the jews have their own God's anyhow?? around the time Jesus was alive.

Satan the name is relativley new, the Egyptian's would sacrafice humans to SET. Satanism would seem to be a different name same game but a more modern version of worshipping evil forces.

Some believe in reps (demons same thing I think) but if you believe this shouldn't you also believe in good angels???
Yes, I do believe there are good angels. Thank goodness!

[eternal_spirit]

There are very probably alien civilizations that are superhuman, to the point of being god-like in ways that exceed anything a theologian could possibly imagine. Their technical achievements would seem as supernatural to us as ours would seem to a Dark Age peasant transported to the twenty-first century"
- Richard Dawkins

These beings could do good or bad depending on their intent. In paganism we have different aspects good moon energy bad moon energy each having a Goddess representing good and bad, we also see this in religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism etc.

Then of course demons masqueradng as Angels of light. Satan rebelled but other Angels followed him also, who became the Demons summoned up in magick rituals.

Prometheus the light bringer an earlier version of satan. Light meaning knowledge.

[titurel]

The leader of the Reptilian over-lords of our planet is Satan. The whole world lies in the power of this deceiver who accuses God of being a liar. The burning issue the elite will have to face as they try to usher in their global Luciferian New World Order is this: Whose world is it anyway?

This issue will be decided in the final battle between Good and Evil. It will come at the end of Kali Yuga. It will come at the end of Ragnarok and it will come after everything has been dragged into the light as the prophets of old foretold.

We are living in that time now of the Great Judgement.

[space monkey]

There are very probably alien civilizations that are superhuman, to the point of being god-like in ways that exceed anything a theologian could possibly imagine. Their technical achievements would seem as supernatural to us as ours would seem to a Dark Age peasant transported to the twenty-first century"


These beings could do good or bad depending on their intent.

I think what Adra meant was is that, while they might be interdimensional, they are actually technologicaly advanced "gods", and that to apply parameters such as "heavenly" or "hellish" is simply simplistic. An artifact of elite fantasy. They are like us, they strive and scheme and dream, only more so.

[space monkey]

The reptillians, anyway.

[space monkey]

I mean, the reptillians have political and evolutionary agendas. That's all I meant.

:rolleyes:

[titurel]

Yes, they want to rule the world unchallenged and establish their NWO!

[december]

Question - Would you be so kind to recommend at least 10?

David Icke alone has produced more than 10 works regarding the ancient mysteries and that's only mentioning David Icke!

Titurel, where can I find these works?

If you are talking about his books than I can tell you that I did read most of them but I didn't find much information about Egyptian Mystery Schools.

So, can you or can you not recommend at least 10 books about Egyptian Mystery Schools?

[titurel]

Question - Would you be so kind to recommend at least 10?



Titurel, where can I find these works?

If you are talking about his books than I can tell you that I did read most of them but I didn't find much information about Egyptian Mystery Schools.

So, can you or can you not recommend at least 10 books about Egyptian Mystery Schools?
Then you haven't read his books properly! Look at his book, The Biggest Secret, for example. Even in the index at the back of the book you will find information on the Mystery Schools of Babylon, Egypt, etc. See pages 1, 50, 56, 58, 73, 81-5, 90, 94-6, 116, 211, 291, 316 and 474.

I've have all of David Icke's books and read them. I don't agree with everything he says but in respect to the Reptilian issue and Satanism, he certainly has a great deal to say! Many other authors and people do too!

[december]

A question - Is OWL a satanic symbol as well?

Many people do regard the owl symbol as perverse

Titurel, I wasn't asking you about what people believe in.
After 2000 years of Judeo-Christian dictatorship people can believe in many things...

So, titurel, if you cannot answer my question than just say so.



...especially when they see the world's elite worshipping it at Bohemian Grove. :)

How can you know WHAT were they doing at the Bohemian Grove?
That Alex Jones movie is a joke. Why did they let him in? :D Why is he STILL selling it (film) on his website?...

Some people worship Mickey Mouse and Super Man, by the way.



Find me one verse that says Jews must destoy Paganism... there isn't one! It's also true that at times...

One more time -


The Bible (see the Deuteronomy in the Old Testament) commands the Jews to destroy Pagan temples and to kill Pagan priests.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4846


...the Jews adopted Pagan customs and traditions!

It is not true.

[titurel]

December wrote:

> Titurel, I wasn't asking you about what people believe in.
After 2000 years of Judeo-Christian dictatorship people can believe in many things...
>
> So, titurel, if you cannot answer my question than just say so.

Okay, here goes... Many people do regard the owl symbol as perverse and I agree with them. How's that?

December wrote:

> The Bible (see the Deuteronomy in the Old Testament) commands the Jews to destroy Pagan temples and to kill Pagan priests.

Find me one verse that says Jews must destoy Paganism... there isn't one! It's no good pointing back to your post that only mentions Deuteronomy. I'm asking for actual quotes of text, an example of some actual verses that says Jews must destoy Paganism. There isn't one, which is why you didn't precisely answer my question!

I wrote:

> ...the Jews adopted Pagan customs and traditions!

December wrote:

> It is not true.

It is true! Even King Solomon turned to Paganism!

[december]

It is true! Even King Solomon turned to Paganism!

There is no HISTORICAL proof that king Solomon ever existed.

[titurel]

There is no HISTORICAL proof that king Solomon ever existed.
Regardless of whether he existed or not, it doesn't alter the fact that OT texts do record Jews as giving over to Paganism. Your thread would have been more poignant if you had given it the title, The USA - A Country Founded by the Reptilian Elite! The Reptilian devil is always in the detail, much to my chagrin also many times! :)

[december]

Titurel, I am still waiting for to explain why OWL a satanic symbol.

Is it?


http://www.infowars.com/headline_photos/April/washingtondc.jpg

http://robodoon.com/images/Dollar%20owl.gif

[titurel]

Titurel, I am still waiting for to explain why OWL a satanic symbol.

Is it?
I personally have never described the owl as a Satanic symbol. I love owls, but I am concerned about the 40 foot stone owl idol that George Bush and his fiends worship at Bohemian Grove. Of course the symbolism of the owl is striking for an elite who are trying to usher in an Orwellian, NWO, Big Brother police state...

The owl can see in every direction, and in the dark. No wonder the collective noun for a group of owls is a parliament of owls!

Even worshipping an owl idol by fiends of Bush wouldn't be so bad if they didn't also perform mock human sacrifices before it... while cremating their cares and responsibilities after blowing up innocent Iraqi citizens on the NWO high blood soaked altar.