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timezone
06-01-2009, 01:12 AM
PM admits recession could last until 2011

But Brown says his plans have not failed and pledges 100,000 new jobs

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00109/brown-sheen_109235a.jpg

Gordon Brown with the actor Michael Sheen beforeTheAndrew Marr Show

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor
Monday, 5 January 2009
The recession could last as long as two years without urgent action to boost the world economy, Gordon Brown acknowledged yesterday as Britain braced itself for a surge of new year redundancies.

The Prime Minister announced plans to create 100,000 jobs in the public sector and promised fresh moves to force banks to resume lending to businesses. He also in effect ruled out an early general election, saying all his efforts were focused on dealing with the "very difficult economic situation".

He will tour potential unemployment black spots this week before staging a Whitehall "jobs summit" next Monday, setting out moves to boost employment in "green" and hi-tech jobs as well as repairing schools and hospitals.

Plans are also being considered to give cash to struggling firms to switch staff to part-time working with the rest of their hours used for training. But with ministers privately admitting they expect a torrent of job losses in the next three months, Mr Brown conceded the downturn could last until 2011.

Asked on BBC1's Andrew Marr Show about forecasts that Britain faced a "two-year recession at best", Mr Brown said: "Well, I think that does depend on the level of international co-operation."

He appeared to strike a much more downbeat note than Chancellor Alistair Darling, who has forecast that the economy will begin to recover this summer. The UK is expected to officially head into recession later this month, when figures are anticipated to show a downturn for a second quarter.

Barry Potter, a director of the International Monetary Fund, also cast doubt on the Chancellor's forecasts. He said: "That would be towards the more optimistic end of the projections."

Mr Potter warned that the slowdown would be "a particularly sharp problem for the UK Government to handle in the next year or so".

The Prime Minister dismissed suggestions that the £37bn taxpayer-funded bailout of high street banks or efforts to breathe new life into the economy – including a VAT rate cut – had flopped. He said the banks had been saved by the massive
cash injection, which had in turn restored their "ability to fund businesses
and mortgages".

The Prime Minister argued that only £1bn of the £18bn earmarked for other measures for boosting the economy had been spent, with £17bn still to filter through. He predicted: "Over the next few months people will see the effect of that increasing activity within the economy. You can't judge a success or a failure by the first few weeks. You have got to judge it over the next few months."

The Prime Minister also suggested yesterday that the Government was drawing up plans in the Budget to help pensioners and the low-paid protect their savings. One idea being examined by the Treasury is enabling some interest on savings income to be tax-free.

In an interview with Radio 4, Mr Darling refused to rule out a second recapitalisation of the banks. He said: "In October ... I said it would be necessary to continue to take whatever measures were necessary to ensure we get lending in the system. Recapitalisation is not your first port of call but we will continue to discuss with banks what steps would help lending."

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat treasury spokesman, said: "Although sensible public investment is welcome, the jobs created will be overwhelmed by job losses." Chris Grayling, the shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, said: "This is a government that has got Britain into a major debt crisis and its solutions just aren't working."

drhemp
06-01-2009, 01:13 AM
I think it will last a lot longer than that.

killmicrosoft
06-01-2009, 01:31 AM
I think it will last a lot longer than that.

yep about 15 years

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 01:33 AM
I still can't get over the sheer audacity of this cunt, posing as our saviour, when he's been one of the main causes of our problems.

lightgiver
06-01-2009, 01:34 AM
The year my credit card expires:D for good one imagines ;) and like i have said before Gordon and chums will not be feeling any type of illusory recession,food still grows in the ground.

“"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
- Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 01:39 AM
The year my credit card expires:D for good one imagines ;) and like i have said before Gordon and chums will not be feeling any type of illusory recession,food still grows in the ground.

Are you one of the fortunate few who doesn't have to pay any rent or mortgage?

3stepsahead
06-01-2009, 01:44 AM
the media is actually praisisng that the imf is buying up / out all infrastructure. and acts as if the actually invented money.
re invented at most, taken over, certainly.


were all in the same boat now.

lightgiver
06-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Are you one of the fortunate few who doesn't have to pay any rent or mortgage?

Yes,i saw what was coming,still a lot of work to do,ie self sufficiency.

People are crazy paying the amount they do for property,and corrupt landlords,its all a scam,new labour my arse.

leespeed
06-01-2009, 01:50 AM
it will last straight up to 2012 with the war in the east taking every ones mind of the apocalyptic times ahead ,,,,,,gas prices soar=warmest year on record predicted for 2009 theve wrote the script :-(

lightgiver
06-01-2009, 03:26 AM
Obama says US economy 'very sick'

Barack Obama answers questions from the press on 5 January
Mr Obama has just officially moved to Washington ahead of his inauguration

US President-elect Barack Obama has described America's economy as "very sick" and has said that the situation was worsening.

They are borg,:eek: all these coincidences,how surprising.

Mr Obama has said he wants a plan that will create 3m jobs by 2011.

That 2011 shit again.

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 09:23 AM
US President-elect Barack Obama has described America's economy as "very sick" and has said that the situation was worsening.

They are borg,:eek: all these coincidences,how surprising.
But as you said yourself, you could see this coming (as did I, but unfortunately I didn't expect it to happen quite as suddenly as it did, so I missed out on selling my house before the crash).

There's no mystery about it, we were in a bubble economy built on non-existent money. It was always going to burst one day. And yes, the same people who are going to benefit from the clawback are the same people who flooded the market with cheap credit to ensnare people in the first place.

orderoutofchaos
06-01-2009, 10:35 AM
He is once again decieving us. The recession will last many years. Something of this magnitude does not rectify itself in 2 years.

lostinstrangeworld
06-01-2009, 10:55 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2B5JHSTOrdU&feature=related

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 11:01 AM
He is once again decieving us. The recession will last many years. Something of this magnitude does not rectify itself in 2 years.

It's hard to see how there will be a recovery at all. What with, exactly? There is no industry to speak of, just about all our resources are imported, this country isn't even self-sufficient in energy at the moment.

drhemp
06-01-2009, 01:19 PM
The recession will last 2 years says Broon, the last date for a general election in the UK is 17 months away. Hrrm.

godspeed
06-01-2009, 01:32 PM
a 2 year recession...what trip is he on....is that when the de-population ends !!.... i think we should sack all our governments and start all over again its their silence that is killing us.........

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 01:35 PM
The recession will last 2 years says Broon, the last date for a general election in the UK is 17 months away. Hrrm.

Unless of course there is a major terrorist incident, involving a dirty bomb or even a real nuke. Then there may be a state of emergency and elections cancelled...

drhemp
06-01-2009, 01:40 PM
Unless of course there is a major terrorist incident, involving a dirty bomb or even a real nuke. Then there may be a state of emergency and elections cancelled...

Why would they do that (cancel elections that is, they might do another false flag)? What would the NWO care if Cameron and the Tories take over? It makes no difference to them whether the Brown or Cameron wins, as they are both spineless puppets that will loyally serve the NWO.

Just as in America, they need the 2 main political parties they control to win and lose elections every decade or so to maintain the illusion of democracy for the sheeple.

If they do another fasle flag terrorist operation it will be to make the sheeple more accepting of further restrictions on their liberties and/ or to start another war, but in Britain if they do that, both Labour and Tories will happily go along with their agenda.

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 01:47 PM
Why would they do that (cancel elections that is, they might do another false flag)? What would the NWO care if Cameron and the Tories take over? It makes no difference to them whether the Brown or Cameron wins, as they are both spineless puppets that will loyally serve the NWO.

All true, this is just a hunch.

1694
06-01-2009, 02:18 PM
Things might be shit and then might get better.

If this is the final fall, the system has inflated to the max, a 70 year debt bubble that can only sustain whilst more debt is being created until no one can take on more debt then it bursts, a few months preps will be like a fart in a wind tunnel.

Honestly I don't know which this is, but we have never had a bubble this big and this sustained before, if it is the final burst it will be like something from your worst nightmares, if they manage to reflate, things will look rosey again for a time.

sukyspook
06-01-2009, 07:33 PM
I still can't get over the sheer audacity of this cunt, posing as our saviour, when he's been one of the main causes of our problems.

Do you venture over to Guido's site: http://order-order.com dreamweaver?? Only the new word in place of the 'c' word is Hoon lol!! I spend far too much time there and the language is foul - but at least one can 'vent one's spleen' at these crooks, liars and front-people for rich men's lies.....

Brown is a complete hoon - a despicable red-shield-gang lacky imho. Like bliar, he will reap what he has sewn.....sometime...somewhere.

romas
07-01-2009, 08:28 PM
It will end on 2011 so we can have a "new world" on 2012?

lightgiver
07-01-2009, 09:54 PM
But as you said yourself, you could see this coming (as did I, but unfortunately I didn't expect it to happen quite as suddenly as it did, so I missed out on selling my house before the crash).

There's no mystery about it, we were in a bubble economy built on non-existent money. It was always going to burst one day. And yes, the same people who are going to benefit from the clawback are the same people who flooded the market with cheap credit to ensnare people in the first place.

Yes,you are correct,;)

lightgiver
07-01-2009, 09:54 PM
It will end on 2011 so we can have a "new world" on 2012?

all just in time for the finish of the other tower;)

lightgiver
07-01-2009, 09:55 PM
It will end on 2011 so we can have a "new world" on 2012?

all just in time for the finish of the other tower;)

No one will escape,

German unemployment in December rose for the first time in 33 months, with over three million people out of work, data showed on Wednesday as the recession in Europe's economic powerhouse begins to bite.