don`t be fooled into take your own life

[deca]

please don`it be fooled manipulated by any means to end your life,with some kind of promise of something better.
also don`it be fooled manipulated by any means to end your life thinking some how your death will make the world better
We have a short life compared to age of the universe so any so called entity can just wait.

[john white]

Anything in particular motivating you to make this thread Deca?

[eternal_spirit]

Life can be so bad at times, that it makes you wonder what it would be like to be dead.

It's a 50-50 chance isn't it? Would it be better than this life or worse???
That's the logical sane way to look at it.

Now if you where a Muslim exteremist suicidal bomber for example. When you die you would go to a much better place. But isn't this what all the religions say, depending on how good or bad a person you've been in this life will depend upon heaven or hell after this life.

[synergy777]

don't give them the pleasure of you failing, dying, evil breeds on this.


as for suicide bombers, ask yourself, if you were living in your country for thousands of years, which then was invaded/occupied by another people, from another continent. supported with the biggest armies, military tech in the world. ask yourself if this upstart with the backing of the worlds superpowers, had a carte blanche, totally immunity, to kill/rape/steal/bomb, to do whatever it likes. just beacuse the theft of america, australia was sanctioned and deemed fair by you. the same principles they applied to palestine, might is right, force is king.

imagine if a foreign power came into england and took control. the foreign power was given all the weapons,political help etc it wanted. you were not allowed even to have rifles etc, the only weapons you could have were from illegal smuggling etc. what would you do, surrender or fight for freedom. like irish fought, indians fought, slaves fought, so do the palestinians. they say its apartheid, nah, it worse. if south africa was the scar on the worlds conscinous, then palestine is the heart of the world, which has been butchered into two. we can overlook, america, australia, but not this, this taking our heart, haven't you taken enough, what else can we give to appease this bloodlust/imperialism. we will never give jerusalem up, we created it, not east european jews, we did.

those that are informed know what its about, ever since the first crusades, the templars etc. if it takes a thousand generations to give palestine freedom, so be it.you see jews talk about being expelled, no hebrews were expelled, they were asiatic. jews, are from europe, stay there. do western converts ask to take india as their land, because they convert to hinduism?


this battle will not end until palestine is free, we have given alot, lost a lot, this is not going the same way. no other issue polarises the world like this, no other issue, shows coloureds the true view of us in relation to world/religous issues. its where the battle of the european takeover of africa/asia began, its where it will end.

[eternal_spirit]

It's the Elite and the military Illuminati etc who start these wars the common man can be unfortuante through no fault of his own to be born in the wrong place to the wrong relgion and race who happens to be the target of some other countries Military evil.

I agree synergy that's a struggle to survive and fight. Poverty and prejudices in other ways can turn peacefull loving people to suicide. Also as deca has pointed out in other threads, they the brotherhood have machines which can make people commit suicide. Through a barrage of negative frequencys aimed en masse or at targeted individuals.

[december]

Anything in particular motivating you to make this thread Deca?

I think he lives in Basra and just scared to death of the British occupiers.

You see... it is very frustrating not to be able to defend your Motherland during the war from the murdering bastards...

http://www.spacewar.com/images/iraq-british-troops-marker-bg.jpg

http://www.epolitix.com/NR/rdonlyres/93B8934B-7675-439D-9122-D4D2CB2B38A2/0/SimonBurnsinBasraIraq.jpg

Simon Burns MP in Basra, Southern Iraq. Pictured in body armour with a team of soldiers who daily patrol the streets of Basra in their armoured vehicles. March 2006

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Simon+Burns/bb864769-ccad-4db8-a97b-1dff10335166.htm

http://www.lysistrataproject.org/assets/basramandeadgirl.jpg

Basra, Iraq. March 22, 2003 Man carries body of small girl
killed during the siege of Basra.

http://www.lysistrataproject.org/withdrawing_our_consent.htm

[eternal_spirit]

What choice did they have in Basra??? Saddam or the UN both controlled by the same people right??? When you realise it's the same Elite's creating all wars.

What can we do?? Refuse to join the Military. We fight if invaded in self defence that's always been the way for the common man the masses.

[gremlin]

opens door to thread...........turning around,..closes the door tight....nailing it tight SHUT!

[intruder]

fear of the unknown....?

what if every murderer would only take his/her own life first? Lets go back to the V-TECH shootings as an example. Would you have tried to persuade that psycho to NOT take his life first? Hell...I'd be egging 'em on...GO FOR IT buddy, spare those people and their families the ensuing grief!!!

There IS a case for suicide...

[december]

What can we do?? Refuse to join the Military. We fight if invaded in self defence that's always been the way for the common man the masses.

What can you do? Well, I guess just express Infinite Love towards the Illuminati.

It should work...



What choice did they have in Basra??? Saddam or the UN both controlled by the same people right??? When you realise it's the same Elite's creating all wars.


When people see tanks and dead bodies on their streets, and destroyed grocery stores and hospitals, they don't think about some fancy things like UN, Elite or Illuminati but they just want to kill themselves.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40188000/jpg/_40188142_fallujabombhit_afp203b.jpg


Residents of the rebel-held city of Falluja in Iraq are packing their bags and leaving town after one of the heaviest US bombardments for weeks.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40188000/jpg/_40188154_hospital_afp203b.jpg

Hospital workers clean the floor after receiving fresh casualties...


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40180000/jpg/_40180896_fallujabomb_story_ap.jpg

They say the Americans are attacking them because of wounded pride

Source -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...d/middle_east/3748966.stm

[bicycle]

There is no such thing as death, only life after life. You go on to the next level as you leave this one, if you leave here happy you will be happy on the other side whether thats through natural cause's (old age) or suicide it does not matter.

A freind of mine who is very psychic and has had many out of body adventures said to me in all seriouseness that if people realised how wonderfull the other side is the suicide rate would reach record proportions overnight!

[eternal_spirit]

I don't mean to piss on you're fire bicycle, but this needs to be said because it's the truth as I know it.

Belief in an afterlife is not a certain reality. No body knows no matter who or what knowlege they believe they have can prove it to be a reality.

[limelady]

I don't mean to piss on you're fire bicycle, but this needs to be said because it's the truth as I know it.

Belief in an afterlife is not a certain reality. No body knows no matter who or what knowlege they believe they have can prove it to be a reality.

And the afterlife is more than likely just another level of the matrix anyway,
and by all accounts the LOA works very well in the afterlife, which will be whatever your pre-death expectations believe it to be. Will our own personal 'heavens' be merely another prison where we'll await recycling back into physical reality? Should we follow the 'light' (and risk being trapped again) or do the unexpected and go in the other direction in the hope we may finally escape to freedom? Near death experiencers never come back with enough info do they?

I guess what happens and 'where we go' when we finally exit this 3D plane, all depends on just how deep this dam rabbit hole REALLY goes. :cool:

Anyone keen to do a bit of flat-lining as a forum experiment?

[earthseed]

People get so many different kinds of NDEs some are great others are a living hell that make them more scared. Just like when people do drugs. But, it does come to the point where you are so sick of the matrix's lower levels that you are desperate for the higher levels where you have the illusion of more freedom for just a bit. It's like being poor you want to be rich even if you don't actually have a better quality of life in the end. Some of us have been awake for longer than we care to remember waiting on the rest to wake up so we can collectively dismantle this thing and it can get to you. I don't think suicidal thoughts are at all unusual in this reality I think they are a natural reaction to such insanity that appears to have no end.

[deca]

Anything in particular motivating you to make this thread Deca?

I have noticed a lot off threads about moving to the next level and other stuff about not needing a body or brain.
I am not knocking anyones belief here but the mind and body manipulation that I am suffering is very sophisticated ,It can also give pleasure and nice feelings and weird sensation all through your body.
I was lead to believe that I had an implant in my brain and people would fight for it and rip it out of my skull,I was also made to believe that this gave me strength and power and I had to not back down to somebody else who had an implant.If I was in danger a voice would come into my head and say moving up to power level 5 and I would get a tingle sensation all through my body"power up" the higher the level the stronger sensation, This lead me to assault somebody and get charged with mugging ....I picked up his pens and other bits , his carrier bag split during the assault.I walked of and sat down a wrote a poem.I am not a violent person,I will defend myself but a don`t attack people. The police and the guy I attacked most of thought the motive for me attacking him was to rob him.It was not ,my reason and base of reality was shattered and replaced with something else that could be used to control me.
What I am saying is the perpetrators can easily fool,trick and manipulate people by playing into your beliefs. They could make up stories were you have to do stuff to save the planet,or help out friendly aliens, or help friendly ghosts ..This would be backed up by images still/moving direct to your brain,audio with all the sound effects and body manipulation e.g feeling of a body scan going through you with sound effects maybe a voice saying you have been chosen or something like that.
They can come to you in dreams state or wake you up tell you some crap then put you back to sleep again...the first time that the perpetrators talked to me I was in a half a sleep mode trying to fall asleep.
A lot of the things that perpetrator's have played out on me ends up with me having to moving away,or killing myself...they have basically have stop this know because I don`t fall for it now the truth bad enough.
I am pretty sure that the perpetrators passivity monitor me a few weeks before they stared harassing me.Think I became aware of it and flipped so the
perpetrators panicked and buggered me up to cover there trail.

[john white]

I see what you mean, and obviously you’re in a difficult position. Your the person living your life, so your the person who HAS to deal with what you have to deal with, and it must be difficult for you. Are your experiences caused by ptb using technology? Are they caused by inter-dimensional entities affecting you spiritually? Are they the product of an imbalance in your consciousness? I certainly don't know, and its you who has to work it out. Its hard to say anything constructive, but I’d suggest that tranquillity may be the answer: when you have these experiences pushing you to do this or think yourself that, use peaceful non-co-operation. Sit down. Concentrate on your breathing. And just stay there as long as you need to. Let the thoughts and images pass by in front of your mind, but don't identify with them. And yes, I do have some experience to back up that advice

There is always and probably will always be a myriad of perspectives on spirituality and life. And yes, there are perspectives that take a turn down the dark side and seek to suggest that suicide presents some form of answer. I've lost people, seen people go down down down, self destruct in so many ways, especially Heroin/alcohol, and if I had to say why I’d say that the peace of death was more attractive than facing the pain they no longer believed they could handle, or more accurately, win against. And yet those same perspectives you reference, that we are not our body, with a different intent, set us free: "we are not our thoughts, we are not our emotions: therefore we are not ruled by them" (whatever some manipulator is trying to tell us they should be)

Personally I enjoy being here and I am fascinated by the sublime construction of this world: whilst recognising that it is "only" a construction. And when it comes time for me to leave, I'd like to do so peacefully, fearlessly, and with gratitude for my time here

Best of luck to you Deca: I know you will win through

[a fine naked fellow]

I have noticed a lot off threads about moving to the next level and other stuff about not needing a body or brain.

A mind balanced is a beautiful thing. And I wonder what the ultimate scope of it all means.
That some should go through so great lengths to fuck it all up.
Lets start moving as a species to a finer integration, developing and blending the body, mind,
emotions and intuitions. and bringing each to fulfillment.

If we didn’t have the virtue to shape our experience I don think we would be here.
The wind is blowing this way though, every thing’s changing.
One love.