ONE RELIGION - Are we being primed for it?

[tinmenace]

More and more on channels like History Channel, A&E, Biography, and so on, I'm finding that they are showing programs which place serious doubt on conventional Christianity.

Yesterday they had a program about UFO's and the bible. Other shows include those that question who wrote the bible and for what reason, and the conclusion is never in favor of mainstream christian beliefs.

I know David said that they will try to instill a one world religion and I wonder if this is their way of priming the herd for it?

[mada88]

The New Age will be used as the world religion.

[bigus_dickus]

the new age's targets are all other religions such as christianity, islam and buddhism and others. they don't wish them to exist, that's why they got them villified and turned each against the other and that's why you see the hostility and lies against them. much of anti-christianity and anti-other religions you read about is lies and propaganda promoting atheism, which is the core of the 'new age' religion belief system. atheism is a religion of the worst kind.

[mcmenek1]

More and more on channels like History Channel, A&E, Biography, and so on, I'm finding that they are showing programs which place serious doubt on conventional Christianity.

Yesterday they had a program about UFO's and the bible. Other shows include those that question who wrote the bible and for what reason, and the conclusion is never in favor of mainstream christian beliefs.

I know David said that they will try to instill a one world religion and I wonder if this is their way of priming the herd for it?



Hi tinmenace,

Yes I believe we are being primed for a one world religion....... over here in the UK I’ve noticed we are starting to have TV programs that are heading in that direction........ I remember watching one that had academics from Oxford University questioning the relevance of having different religions in a modern age....... they came to the conclusion that having different religions causes nothing but trouble and may be we would all be better off without them........

So you can see where this is all heading........ It’s quite amazing don't you think that different TV programs in different countries produced by different organisations suddenly start questioning traditional religion all at the same time........ it’s all part of the plan of course for a New World Order......

Love
&
Peace

[teslafire]

If one were to follow the revelations script, you'd have to conclude that the new religion would be tied to the economy.

The only economy I can think of that is highly guilt driven (requisite for religion), and has zero to little opposition on the world stage is a green one.

'Oh mother Gaia, how can we serve you!'

'What, take a microchip to better regulate our voracious appetite for natural resources?

Well, its that or extinction of the human race.'

[adramelech]

Yes, of course. Oneness, one world, one religion, New Age, New Order.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/images/oneness300.gif

http://www.experiencefestival.com/

http://www.un.org/english/portals/images/biglogo.gif

http://www.un.org/english/

[1 2 free]

I don't see why the NWO agenda would be to create a singular religion. Surely under world government people would still need to be divided and ruled. Different belief systems are so effective at doing this I don't see why the NWO would want that to end.

It seems to me that as people are waking up they are increasingly questioning the origins of the Bible and the credibility of the Christian belief system as well as questioning other religions (it's primarialy Christianity in the west though of course). As this is happening we are being steered by the likes of Richard Dawkins into atheism which is of course another belief system (the belief there is no god). As long as we go through life believing something rather than accepting what we don't know then the system is fine.

[lumukanda]

i think the thing to remember is that the illuminati are very much aware of the amount of people beginning to question everything, religion included, and they're not going to let that go unchallenged. that's why i think a one world religion is on the cards for sure, at least for now, once we are well and truly under their thumb it won't really matter one way or the other will it?

many say the new age religion is going to be the one, but like anything, there's two sides to it, i mean you can link the new age to all kinds of scary shit, from MKUltra to the nazis, which is why one has to be so careful, i may ruffle a few feathers, but the ascension/2012 etc, are in many ways to me is like the second coming of christ re-invented, many people, not all, seem to think if we sit back and wait we will have our very own new age rapture, that's something we have to be careful of.

it's like so many things, they start out with pure intentions, but get corrupted over time, disinfo agents start infiltrating, then if we think about channeled information, think MK Ultra, think weird waves that can beam messages into people's heads, think implants that control people's behaviour.
it's a minefield out there, sometimes i think thats the whole point, so many options, so many red herrings, just like any other P-R-S, one day something comes along, no doubT.

[paulski]

Read the research about project Bluebeam:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project144.html

[adramelech]

The primary purpose of the NWO is to move from covert to overt, absolute rule. Civilization is already divided and ruled covertly. The transition to a global dictatorship is the ultimate transformation into slavery. All elite created religions and belief systems have ultimately been approaching this. The world religion is a fusion, including New Age, which will be activated via Project Greenstar.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/maitreyalogo2.JPG

[lifeofbrian]

The primary purpose of the NWO is to move from covert to overt, absolute rule. Civilization is already divided and ruled covertly. The transition to a global dictatorship is the ultimate transformation into slavery. All elite created religions and belief systems have ultimately been approaching this. The world religion is a fusion, including New Age, which will be activated via Project Greenstar.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/maitreyalogo2.JPG


Do you know why?

[teslafire]

That's like saying Rael or Scientology will reign over the whole world...this New Age conversion will not happen, I think its a pretty superficial proclamation. What New Age beliefs do is convert older religions contempt for the earth into recognition of it and places importance on the material world...both views are incomplete but they serve their purpose as guiders to the middle way.

We live in an age of science, this is the new faith, and how it will be applied is to disempower the masses.

Global Warming is the single greatest crusade and faith based belief known to man. Its also been mass broadcast to the whole of earth, in all languages, in form of tsunamis and hurricanes.


;)

[space monkey]

The primary purpose of the NWO is to move from covert to overt, absolute rule. Civilization is already divided and ruled covertly. The transition to a global dictatorship is the ultimate transformation into slavery. All elite created religions and belief systems have ultimately been approaching this. The world religion is a fusion, including New Age, which will be activated via Project Greenstar.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/maitreyalogo2.JPG

Do you think we're all doomed? Or...

[adramelech]

That's like saying Rael or Scientology will reign over the whole world...this New Age conversion will not happen, I think its a pretty superficial proclamation. What New Age beliefs do is convert older religions contempt for the earth into recognition of it and places importance on the material world...both views are incomplete but they serve their purpose as guiders to the middle way.

There is no conversion necessary because all elite created religions have written into them the "transformation" or "ascension" now associated with New Age doctrine. When Project Greenstar starts the "end of the world" scenarios, and the religious see heavenly images of their returning gods and saviours proclaiming we must unite as one to "transform consciousness", you will have very little, if any, resistance. In a day, the consciousness of the world will be transformed or transmuted into a Golden Age or global unity, One World. And no conversion is necessary because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Yes, Scientism is used to further the Humanist agenda, but Humanism is simply another believe system to be used for control.

[teslafire]

In a day, you say?

That hokey bluebeam, greenstar shit was created to keep people on the internet occupied.

Atheism is a created belief system, and they constitute about 5% of the population, probably more of them than New-Agers.

The religions were created to separate us, obviously, but before that (and before Paganism) Mother Earth bound us, and will bind us again, this time under elite provisos.

The Big Idea is not lost in engineering wholly new systems of thought, its based on re-engineering an existing one. They didn't create astrology and ley lines, and the subtle energies behind words to have an inner language, they used the stars in the sky, the existing earth grid, and the vibratory nature of thought to base their language off.

[adramelech]

Well, wow. If you refuse to accept the reality of satellite manipulation and holographic weaponry (Greenstar alone is going back to the 1960s) and choose to ignore the enormous amount of predictive programming and even blatant speeches by elite world leaders regarding a planned "alien" invasion, as well as the early "predictive programming" (self-fulfilling prophecies) contained in all religious texts, I guess there really is nowhere for this conversation to go.

You obviously have some pre-conceived notion about this whole thing and for some reason are attacking atheism.

[teslafire]

If you refuse to accept the reality of satellite manipulation and holographic weaponry

The technology behind holograms and satellite manipulation can also make everything hotter than it should be.

(Greenstar alone is going back to the 1960s)

And MJ-12 goes back to the fifties. You believe that too?

and choose to ignore the enormous amount of predictive programming

Starting with (and coming up to the present) the War of the Worlds, Roswell and all those B movies. So in this fake alien invasion will they reveal the reptilians as well as we've been programmed through "creature from the black lagoon" and "V" (reprise coming soon).

Every symbol has at least 7 meanings, and the vast majority of the time they are meant for the inner circle as they are most controlled "human beings" on this planet.

and even blatant speeches by elite world leaders regarding a planned "alien" invasion,

A thirty second reference at the '87 UN meeting from former moviestar Ronnie Raygun giving a hypothetical to fulfill the NWO hardly constitutes "blatant". The actual deathbed confession from Werner Von Braun as reported by his niece (?, some family member of his)can't be corroborated by anyone. But if you're set on believing this without criticism, I can't stop you.

as well as the early "predictive programming" (self-fulfilling prophecies) contained in all religious texts,

So you think seat number 666 (the only seat left open out of 700+) at the EU council in brussels will be an alien?

Or will the aliens come as the other half of the dialectic with Jesus descending from a cloudlike UFO?

By the time Jesus is set to arrive most of the population will have been exterminated and their energies harvested.

and for some reason are attacking atheism

All dogmatic belief systems aim to disconnect you from source within you.

It is the bane of expressing thoughts and ideas through language (especially Queen's english), ultimately.

[john white]

The primary purpose of the NWO is to move from covert to overt, absolute rule. Civilization is already divided and ruled covertly. The transition to a global dictatorship is the ultimate transformation into slavery. All elite created religions and belief systems have ultimately been approaching this. The world religion is a fusion, including New Age, which will be activated via Project Greenstar.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/maitreyalogo2.JPG


I quoted this for the picture ;)

I can see a way out of your conversational impasse gentlemen

Its obviously an attractive scenario that there may be a techbnological "fixing" of all the various second comings, but I also dont see that this is nessacarily what is going to go down. I also think Tesla's scepticism about bluebeam/mk ultra is at least worth considering. These measures may just as well be about re-imagining the mythology. After all, with all control systems control of the mythology = controls of the minds of the faithful, and the guy in black is the disseminator of the myths. They've never had to actually come true before in order to be jolly effective, so why now?

Its damned if we do damned if we dont when it comes to moves like interfaith, isnt it? It could be seen as priming the masses to be more tolerant of each other as part of a sinister plot (and to some it probably is). On the other hand, its encouraging different religions to be more tolerant of each other: which is a jolly good thing. Which is more genuine? The plot of mind from the top of the pyramid or the surge of heart from the bottom?

And I'm amazed no-one has talked about the Bahai's yet. If ever there is a one world religion in waiting: the Bahai's are it. After all, their founder Bahaullah called for a "new World Order" in 1860. If they follow the Christian model, their religion should be beccoming globally adopted by about 2150

http://www.bahai.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1'%C3%AD_Faith

The Bahá'í Faith is the religion founded by Bahá'u'lláh in 19th century Persia. There are around six million Bahá'ís in more than 200 countries around the world.[1][2]

According to Bahá'í teachings, religious history is seen as an evolving educational process for mankind, through God's messengers, which are termed Manifestations of God. Bahá'u'lláh is seen as the most recent, pivotal, but not final of these individuals. He claimed to be the expected redeemer and teacher prophesied in Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and other religions and that his mission was to establish a firm basis for unity throughout the world, and inaugurate an age of peace and justice, which Bahá'ís expect will inevitably arise.[3]

"Bahá'í" (/baˈhaːʔiː/) can be an adjective referring to the Bahá'í Faith, or used as term for a follower of Bahá'u'lláh. (Bahá'í is not a noun meaning the religion as a whole.) The word comes from the Arabic word Bahá’ (بهاء), meaning "glory" or "splendour".[4] "Bahaism" or "Baha'ism" are uncommon terms used in the past; and are fading from use.

United Nations
Bahá'u'lláh wrote of the need for world government in this age of humanity's collective life. Because of this emphasis many Bahá'ís have chosen to support efforts of improving international relations through organizations such as the League of Nations and the United Nations. The Bahá'í International Community is an agency under the direction of the Universal House of Justice in Haifa, and has consultative status with the following organizations:[39]

United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC)
United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
World Health Organization (WHO)
United Nations Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM)
United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP)
The Bahá'í International Community has offices at the United Nations in New York and Geneva and representations to United Nations regional commissions and other offices in Addis Ababa, Bangkok, Nairobi, Rome, Santiago, and Vienna.[39] In recent years an Office of the Environment and an Office for the Advancement of Women were established as part of its United Nations Office. The Bahá'í Faith has also undertaken joint development programs with various other United Nations agencies. In the 2000 Millennium Forum of the United Nations a Bahá'í was invited as the only non-governmental speaker during the summit.[40] See this article for further information on the relationship between the Bahá'í International Community and the United Nations

[adramelech]

All dogmatic belief systems aim to disconnect you from source within you.

It is the bane of expressing thoughts and ideas through language (especially Queen's english), ultimately.

But atheism is not dogmatic and it is not a belief system, it is a philosophical concept found in a wide range of things, from religion to metaphysics to science and psychology. Most people on this forum probably fall under some concept of atheism, including yourself. You are confusing atheism with its modern fusion of Humanism into a belief system.

[adramelech]

Its obviously an attractive scenario that there may be a techbnological "fixing" of all the various second comings, but I also dont see that this is nessacarily what is going to go down. I also think Tesla's scepticism about bluebeam/mk ultra is at least worth considering. These measures may just as well be about re-imagining the mythology. After all, with all control systems control of the mythology = controls of the minds of the faithful, and the guy in black is the disseminator of the myths. They've never had to actually come true before in order to be jolly effective, so why now?

Its damned if we do damned if we dont when it comes to moves like interfaith, isnt it? It could be seen as priming the masses to be more tolerant of each other as part of a sinister plot (and to some it probably is). On the other hand, its encouraging different religions to be more tolerant of each other: which is a jolly good thing. Which is more genuine? The plot of mind from the top of the pyramid or the surge of heart from the bottom?

Well, I use the term Greenstar or Bluebeam to refer to any potential holographic weaponry application. I hope people realize I'm not implying that some decommissioned project from the 60s is still around. Anyone can look into the Disclosure Project or read about the 1994 Air Force "star wars" program launched after the idea of a holographic Allah appearing over Iraq was proposed.

There's a fine line between "multi-culturalism" (a fusion into one culture) and true independent tolerance, John. The latter is really tricky to pull off and I don't see it really rising up.

[1 2 free]

You obviously have some pre-conceived notion about this whole thing

As do you. It's two belief systems battling it out.


But atheism is not dogmatic and it is not a belief system

An atheist is someone who believes that there is no god. Accepting the fact that we do not know and living life with an open mind always seems to be missing from the debate and yet it's the only thing that we know for sure. That we do know.

[john white]

An atheist is someone who believes that there is no god. Accepting the fact that we do not know and living life with an open mind always seems to be missing from the debate and yet it's the only thing that we know for sure. That we do know.

Ah but thats the paradox, isnt it? As soon as we give it a term, it becomes an "ism", and is no longer the solution: but without an "ism" the programmed mind can't see it

[teslafire]

But atheism is not dogmatic and it is not a belief system, it is a philosophical concept found in a wide range of things, from religion to metaphysics to science and psychology. Most people on this forum probably fall under some concept of atheism, including yourself.

Atheism firmly rejects a Creator, there's no wiggle room; that is dogmatic.

In my teens I toyed with the idea of becoming Buddhist and one of the reasons I was attracted to it was because in its purest form it is atheistic. You'll find, when its not integrated with local tribal traditions, Buddhism has no creation myth, it doesn't bother to touch that subject at all. For anyone curious of human origins, this belief system soon becomes highly unsatisfactory.

[adramelech]

As do you. It's two belief systems battling it out.

Really? I don't "believe" anything. If someone could demonstrate evidence to me that indicates there is absolutley no effort to fuse religious beliefs, unite spirituality on a global scale and bring about a universal "one", I'd acknowledge it immediately. There's no belief necessary - they use the same logo for christsakes.

An atheist is someone who believes that there is no god.

No it isn't. Although explicit, "strong" atheism may hold this view, it is nearly always a part of a Humanism belief system. Atheism is the absence of belief in theism. Were evidence to emerge of a theistic deity or deities, most atheists (barring those "strong" atheists or Humanists) would acknowledge it. You cannot "believe" in a negative when discussing something completely subjective. Atheism is a philosophical concept that even applies to some non-theistic spirituality and many other scenarios. For example, a person who has never known or has no concept of a theistic deity would be considered an "atheist".

To imply that this person holds a belief system of not believing in something they have never heard of is silly. To define someone as a holder of a non-belief or non-interest is outrageous. Imagine if I chose to call everyone who doesn't implicitly recognize the reality of invisible flying pink unicorns an "aunicornist"? Of course invisible flying pink unicorns could exist - anything could exist, everyone knows this, yet it is often used as a strawman by woos. Possibility does not define belief.

[space monkey]

All athiests will be engulfed in the Reckoning. You are nought but worms in the eyes of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://www.venganza.org/

[tinmenace]

I wonder if the one religion agenda has anything to do with BC and AD being replaced with BCE and CE?

[teslafire]

I wonder if the one religion agenda has anything to do with BC and AD being replaced with BCE and CE?

Controlled demolition of Christianity.

If someone could demonstrate evidence to me that indicates there is absolutley no effort to fuse religious beliefs, unite spirituality on a global scale and bring about a universal "one", I'd acknowledge it immediately. There's no belief necessary - they use the same logo for christsakes.

That isn't the contention.

No one is denying that there isn't a worldwide movement to fuse all the major elite religions together, all their "prophecies" intersect, all their doomsday scenarios line up like blocking directions on the world stage; this is obvious.

I'm saying that the ultimate result, of this millenias planned fusion, will be the green movement rather than bluebeam and greenstar type manipulations. Gaia is simply Isis, Mary, Columbia etc etc

http://www.arkofhope.org/
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Easter-Earth.htm

But as a rule of thumb I tend not to put stock in stuff I can read about in the Village Voice or the New Yorker AND ESPECIALLY Project Disclosure (its Art Bell's wet dream if that's any hint to you). All these sources have talked about the episodes or plans for holographic trickery that you reference. It comes off as misdirection.

And practically speaking, that microchip they want to put in people (or some type of mark) won't be installed to literally measure your prayer output, its their to mundanely regulate resource allocation - one for all. Aliens don't need to give us that technology, we already have it and is presently promoted by all types of techno change agents. Expect this conditioning to go full steam after a Democratic president brings in socialism via healthcare reform. The antichrist, or the messiah, or maitreya, or dajjal comes to bring peace to the earth's woes. Forget the War on Terra (Dubya's pronunciation is not a mistake), terrorism is now passe, global warming will be the sensible enemy because environmentalism clearly states that the enemy is us.

And I'm amazed no-one has talked about the Bahai's yet. If ever there is a one world religion in waiting: the Bahai's are it. After all, their founder Bahaullah called for a "new World Order" in 1860. If they follow the Christian model, their religion should be beccoming globally adopted by about 2150

http://users.whsmithnet.co.uk/ispalin/a21/intro.htm
http://www.bcca.org/ief/bicsd.htm

I'd put my money on 2061.

Sustainable development is a euphenism for mass sacrifice to Gaia.

[bigus_dickus]

No it isn't. Although explicit, "strong" atheism may hold this view, it is nearly always a part of a Humanism belief system. Atheism is the absence of belief in theism.

atheism is 'not theism'. theism is a belief system that implies a 'higher force' namely god, nature, the universe, the higher self, something that is vaster and more intelligent than the human mind can comprehend. atheism is consequently by definition of terms, a belief system that implies that there is no such 'higher force', whatever the name or nature of it.

a new born human cannot be considered atheist. if we want to put a label to him, we would necessarily call him 'undecided'. you can never label and categorize someone without depending entirely on his own word. someone being 'theist' or 'atheist' requires them to declare 'i am theist', 'or atheist'.

people even switch and convert from theism to atheism many times during their lifetimes. no one is born a theist or an atheist, we are all born undecided. then we may convert to theism, to atheism, to undecided and back to theism many times, not in that particular order.

why atheism is a religion. because it holds all the characteristics of the theistic religious belief systems. in parallel, some atheists and some theists simply allow each other to have their own dogmas and can be friends and discuss and expand their knowledge. some others constantly fight each other trying to convert each other both believing they are doing the right thing. as there are theist or religious communities, so there are atheist communities. hardcore atheists try to vilify religions, spreading propaganda so that more religious people "wake up" and become atheists, or undecided.

and as soon as people label themselves as atheists to identify their religion when asked, it is their religion. but, is a materialist, a nationalist, a humanist, a transhumanist etc. an atheist? it depends. there can be a humanist who is a theist and a humanist who is an atheist. if someone believes that there are things he doesn't know and that of a somewhat 'higher' order that he doesn't completely understand, i would consider him a theist by definition.

oneness is another philosophical idea that got hijacked and turned into a religion. only i don't know how something like this can be turned into religion, it is outrageous to me. but, it is a kind of fusion of belief systems that will attract more people of those who call themselves atheists and those of other religious groups who fall for the propaganda.

[angel147]

At least with one world religion, there would not be the loss of energy (souls)caused by the fighting between the churches, and other things.

[detroit313]

Duh

And the One World Religion Gurus are: Michael Tsarion, David Icke and Jordan Maxwell.

[gordysmit]

And what is up with being pagan?