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mr_kiz
04-01-2009, 01:18 PM
We must do or die.

We all see a major problem and all want a common goal.

And we can either sit here and rot in this world and be controlled and never know what we could have, Or we can try and do something about it.

We need to act soon.

cafetimes1991
04-01-2009, 01:19 PM
*Starts handing out leaflets*
Good post!

godspeed
04-01-2009, 05:39 PM
in my neck of the woods i feel im surrounded by eurocrats and common purpose agenda's...no one else see's it like i do....and im getting good at sussing them out....its easy...their detached from human feelings.:D

knightbk
04-01-2009, 10:30 PM
We must do or die.

We all see a major problem and all want a common goal.

And we can either sit here and rot in this world and be controlled and never know what we could have, Or we can try and do something about it.

We need to act soon.


Go kill some illuminati.

diamond dogs
04-01-2009, 10:39 PM
The trouble is people are still so asleep when you tell them about what's going on even at a low level they seem to think things will get better and they label you as a 'doom and gloom' merchant or as I have been accused of 'losing the plot' a few times...it is time to make plans for oneself because although the theory of 2012 is for people to start awaking...it will need a miracle imo

knightbk
04-01-2009, 10:47 PM
The trouble is people are still so asleep when you tell them about what's going on even at a low level they seem to think things will get better and they label you as a 'doom and gloom' merchant or as I have been accused of 'losing the plot' a few times...it is time to make plans for oneself because although the theory of 2012 is for people to start awaking...it will need a miracle imo

2012 has nothing to do with awakening, thats just a farce added by those who want to put a positive spin on it.

2012 will either be nothing or obliteration. No inbetweens.

diamond dogs
04-01-2009, 10:54 PM
2012 has nothing to do with awakening, thats just a farce added by those who want to put a positive spin on it.

2012 will either be nothing or obliteration. No inbetweens.

I used to think that but actually there is proof that there is a pole shift and the planets alignment with the Sun and the 'centre' of the universe..

I heard a recent radio snippet about the enormous black hole in the centre of the universe thousand times more dense than the sun and how it is affecting the Earth's magnetic field which has already been identified...These could be disinfo but there is the Mayan Calendar and the prophecised 2012, Sistene Chapel and Icke has also mentioned it.....

http://www.asmilan.org/teachers/kwheatley/pictures/WHII/sistene_chapel_ceiling1.jpg

mr_kiz
12-01-2009, 01:33 AM
Your a fool mate.

Futhermore your detaching my topic from what little point it began with.

I've been doing more thinking boys...


We need to fight fire with fire. Play this game and play it against them.

If there truly are enough people who can see the light then we have an army, if not were just some crazy bastards that lisened to too many people who took too much acid.

crowd control
12-01-2009, 02:29 AM
2012 has nothing to do with awakening, thats just a farce added by those who want to put a positive spin on it.

2012 will either be nothing or obliteration. No inbetweens.

How do you know?

I love people who state their opinions as facts.

deafbred
12-01-2009, 02:50 AM
I think we will all know when to act

if we go out there now - it ain't going to happen

this is a chess game

we are waiting for their move

we must prepare spiritually physically and mentally

that is all we can do for now

prepare for whatever

prepare to leave your things behind

prepare to be departed from your family

you will go down fighting if you fight

you can run but you can't hide

you can keep on running..

but at some point your going to have to face the facts

we got something in our face that is life or death

im not scared to die

people have died in the past

loved ones, family, ancestors

this is only a test

this life

we will all do our part to serve a higher purpose than serving a tyranny

you all have what you need from the start of your life

wake it up

refine it

get back to it

understand yourself again and hone your abilities

you must contribute soon to the good fight

i wouldn't worry about going to prison

though it is a nightmare to think about -

the more you resist the more they will inflict

the burden they put on you won't be to hard to bear

prepare

don't worry about taking anything with you or objects that will only weigh you down and physically duress you

we need everyone 100 percent

don't waste time- you will know when you are wasting time

clean your lifestyle up and modestly train yours skills as if you were bruce lee, but don't get to extreme

god is truly at hand- jesus christ is the way, because he is the ideal in all of us

if you rebuke this word i just shared with you now than you have already stumbled upon the corner stone rock foundation which life stands forever

destroy your fear-

there is no need to fear

NO FEAR

fEAR - hear

understand

they have a plan

but we are in no need of planning - the resonance of our llfe when aligned with christ -- will guide us through the most turbulent weather around us - we/you will be the calm at the center of the storm - the light in the darkness -

people will follow you - you will be strong - in numbers as you gather together and recognize your faith again in each other -

i am the 'weakest link' to the world. when i break my link the chain will shatter, the systems of this world will fall into darkness - malfunction will begin- chaos will ensue

how ironic it will be - and justice will bring peace

there is nothing to fear - its THEM that are scared - that's why they got so many guns and tanks and ARMIES of drones/clones

--- we are not controlled by their words of falsehood

it is for them to fall into their own pit, they created for themselves

they will truly be your footstool -

no doubt there will be a resurrection - be blameless - this punishment here after - is meant for THEM, not you or us.. who believe in the together love of trust when we are of the mentality of "us" -- THEY went out from "us" so that it might be plain to see that THEY... are NOT of "us" ... THEY are against "us" ---it is not YOU they are resisting - but jesus

this word is true

don't be a fool

it is meant for them to fall TWICE - "us" only once ---

THERE WILL BE A REVOLVE in the REVOLUTION of love and the justice it brings

so sing and praise the lord god - keep your eyes on the spirit - not THIS WORLD, because this world.. is passing away.. and anyone who loves the world and the things in the world, does not have the love of god in their heart.

once you know the truth... you will know them by their fruits

--- you will rejoice knowing where you stand -- and where they fall..

the lines they create are their gates with keys... --- we escape narrowly and slip through their fingers.. despite the blood that may be spilt.....


THEY CAN'T HANG ON TO YOUR SOUL!

lightblessins
12-01-2009, 08:47 PM
the nwo, what to do about it? or what are you goin to do about it? or what can you do about it? all depends on what we each beleive and then how we act. iam constantly asking myself what iam doin about it, what can i do about it, the darkness doesnt rest to offen, as we get closer to 2012 things will get more n more interesting. what power do u av that you can use to make a change? with out power what can u change? how do u get power? my advice to you all is to do what they choose not to do, rise above them in all aspects.

lyrag
12-01-2009, 11:51 PM
For crying out loud, TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!

white horse
13-01-2009, 08:58 PM
http://4quasocialclub.blogspot.com/2008/12/mega-bulletin-message-babylon-by-jet.html

Some goo dinfo here, some I've seen before some I haven't.

Check out the Georgia Guidestones if you haven't met them before!

januspolanski
14-01-2009, 03:23 AM
Please watch the Jay Weidner Vid in General forum every1.

sophia_h
14-01-2009, 02:35 PM
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for those who are able, disconnecting from the PTB
as much as possible.

as more do so others will at least try

eventually the PTB will dry up from not enough veinjuice
to sustain them
they cant come get every person who drops out and disconnects


not enough prisions for all

SHUNNING works but we abdicate all that was our nation and
retreat to wait out the fall of the bully

another approach is what

an old Wise Womans adage says

"when the bully rampages we all form huge circle,
grasp hands and walk TOWARD bully

when he realizes he is in a circle growing smaller
and people will ultimately all start touching him
he MELTS right there

we hug him and he is one of us again."

zionists cant melt, not enough soul.

dont think weapons can work against what
the bully has in his quivers.

Magick as our Ancestors practiced will work but not enough
people ready to learn how. all that religious programming ya kno.

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octopusrex
14-01-2009, 02:56 PM
We must do or die.

We all see a major problem and all want a common goal.

And we can either sit here and rot in this world and be controlled and never know what we could have, Or we can try and do something about it.

We need to act soon.

Silly boy. The end is always nigh. Some poor bloke who slips on ice and breaks his neck is just as likely to experience the end as all of us collectively in some sort of world war. How you get there is irrelevant.

Itīs what you do with the time that is given you. Some folks will have a chance to do good things for many. The majority won't. Maybe somebody who might seem insignificant at first will turn the world on it's head (like dear old uncle Adolf).

But the end? The end is always there. It is an individual event and only individuals can prepare for it. Nobody will cross the pearly gates for you. You get to do that on your own merits and those are not collective, but individual.

Sophia: Who is the bully? Who is the wise old woman?

conspiacy theory
15-01-2009, 07:01 AM
Watch the dog chase it's tail.

simplify
15-01-2009, 07:12 AM
The trouble is people are still so asleep when you tell them about what's going on even at a low level they seem to think things will get better and they label you as a 'doom and gloom' merchant or as I have been accused of 'losing the plot' a few times...it is time to make plans for oneself because although the theory of 2012 is for people to start awaking...it will need a miracle imo


Sometimes when I talk about what's really happening with the financial crisis, the person will say, oh it will bounce back in about 6 months, this is just cyclical? So I know at that point that I am wasting my time, so I switch subject to like, so hows your job going. In my mind I'm thinking how the hell do I get away from this deluded person.:D

dawnismygoddess
15-01-2009, 07:15 AM
The end it quite a ways off IMO.

Possibly the year 6066? (666)

sophia_h
15-01-2009, 07:50 AM
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Silly boy. The end is always nigh. Some poor bloke who slips on ice and breaks his neck is just as likely to experience the end as all of us collectively in some sort of world war. How you get there is irrelevant.

Sophia: Who is the bully? Who is the wise old woman?



octopusrex


Sophia: Who is the bully? Who is the wise old woman?


They are both symbols/archetypes

bully is dominant culture/patriarchy and those brute force
adherents who embrace dominant culture

the Wise Woman is the one the dominant culture FEARS and murders
by varied means these days as it cannot do overt witchburnings anymore

we all carry both of these among all the multitude of archetypes within


this adage was given out in a talk at a gathering for a Medicine Wheel
back in mid eighties, not sure of which one as did a couple of them

the incredibly Wise Woman who told it to us was
Grace Spotted Eagle

long since gone to her rest time


she was the 'other side' of Wallace Black Elk who was
also a profound teacher of the OLD WAYS.

all the archetypes have postitve and negative energies


dominant culture has forced us to deny half of all the archetypes
so we are all a bit lopsided and must venture into those dark places
within and EMBRACE all the dened parts ( bullies)and ask them to
reweave into our wholeness, the UNIVERSE circle

an often painful exercise

and why we need more such as Grace Spotted Eagle

:)

***


why the GRATUITOUS mention of

(like dear old uncle Adolf).??

why not mention Stalin or Ghengis Kahn??

bait or programmed bully ?

.

bemore
15-01-2009, 01:53 PM
I cant really see a way out of this. Imagine if you did gather all the people on here and other websites into one massive fuck off group. We are the ILLUMINATI killers!!!!!!!

So in the meeting we discuss what it is we are facing. Some people will say Lizards, some will say the illuminati whilst others will say many of the millions of conspiracy theories regarding who actually rules this planet.

Basicly my point is not everyone believes the same thing, the reasons why we are being controlled and the final agenda. So we all cant join together because we all have no common purpose in mind than to overthrow the people in charge.

Who knows maybe we are all sheep, not believing everything but taking away snippets that are drip feed to us.

Who knows???? I dont and no one else on here knows for sure.

Its just that sometimes we think we are right.

octopusrex
15-01-2009, 04:00 PM
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octopusrex





They are both symbols/archetypes

bully is dominant culture/patriarchy and those brute force
adherents who embrace dominant culture

the Wise Woman is the one the dominant culture FEARS and murders
by varied means these days as it cannot do overt witchburnings anymore

we all carry both of these among all the multitude of archetypes within


this adage was given out in a talk at a gathering for a Medicine Wheel
back in mid eighties, not sure of which one as did a couple of them

the incredibly Wise Woman who told it to us was
Grace Spotted Eagle

long since gone to her rest time


she was the 'other side' of Wallace Black Elk who was
also a profound teacher of the OLD WAYS.

all the archetypes have postitve and negative energies


dominant culture has forced us to deny half of all the archetypes
so we are all a bit lopsided and must venture into those dark places
within and EMBRACE all the dened parts ( bullies)and ask them to
reweave into our wholeness, the UNIVERSE circle

an often painful exercise

and why we need more such as Grace Spotted Eagle

:)

***


why the GRATUITOUS mention of

??

why not mention Stalin or Ghengis Kahn??

bait or programmed bully ?

.

Fair question. Since I was a little boy, I was fascinated by Nazi Germany. I had a huge collection of toy soldiers, and for some inexplicable reason, my favorites were all the Germans.

It's really the same, tho... Isn't it? In fact, around military circles, the GREATEST General still remains Alexander.

Perhaps it's because uncle Adolf is so maligned by the dominant culture. I always stick up for the underdog.

sophia_h
15-01-2009, 06:35 PM
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Fair question. Since I was a little boy, I was fascinated by Nazi Germany. I had a huge collection of toy soldiers, and for some inexplicable reason, my favorites were all the Germans.

It's really the same, tho... Isn't it? In fact, around military circles, the GREATEST General still remains Alexander.

Perhaps it's because uncle Adolf is so maligned by the dominant culture. I always stick up for the underdog.



Thanks for not attacking a dissident from the PTB view
If you have not already seen it here are some famous quotes:


"Hitler... one of the most significant figures who ever lived"
President J.F. Kennedy


"Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now
as one of the most significant figures who ever lived...
He had a mystery about him in the way that he lived
and in the manner of his death that will live and grow
after him.
He had in him the stuff of which legends are made."

- John F. Kennedy,
President of the
United States of America


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"... Hitler is one of the greatest men.
The old trust him, the young idolise him. It is the worship
of a national hero who has served his country."

- David Lloyd George,
Prime Minister and Statesman,
Great Britain.


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"In fifteen years that have followed this resolve,
he (Hitler) has succeeded in restoring Germany to the most
powerful position in Europe, and not only has he restored the position
of his country, but he has even, to a very great extent,
reversed the results of the Great War ...
whatever else may be thought about these exploits they are
certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world."

- Winston Churchill,
Prime Minister and Statesman,
Great Britain.


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http://www.adolfthegreat.com/


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sophia_h
15-01-2009, 06:49 PM
I cant really see a way out of this. Imagine if you did gather all the people on here and other websites into one massive fuck off group. We are the ILLUMINATI killers!!!!!!!

So in the meeting we discuss what it is we are facing. Some people will say Lizards, some will say the illuminati whilst others will say many of the millions of conspiracy theories regarding who actually rules this planet.

Basicly my point is not everyone believes the same thing, the reasons why we are being controlled and the final agenda. So we all cant join together because we all have no common purpose in mind than to overthrow the people in charge.

Who knows maybe we are all sheep, not believing everything but taking away snippets that are drip feed to us.

Who knows???? I dont and no one else on here knows for sure.

Its just that sometimes we think we are right.



the point IS

we ALL have one COMMON enemy
once we accept that, our other differences wont matter

only the dissolution of that ONE COMMON ENEMY

that ONE COMMON ENEMY is the power of the purse
and it is and has been for 56000 years in the pocket
of .........................................!

its in scriptures and old texts of many cultures
people sell their souls to that control for
material gain and physical comforts

getting a net over the insane ones and returning
emotionally mature logical thinkers to the seats of
leadership in every nation should be our COMMON GOAL


then each nation is free to rebuild without usury
and debt slavery.

a good start..
see the ONE ENEMY of us ALL.

be willing to put all differences aside

until that ONE ENEMY is removed from power
in all ALL nations. :D



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lewi
16-01-2009, 03:39 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=59oT8WL3uhc

largejack
18-01-2009, 03:04 PM
the nwo, what to do about it? or what are you goin to do about it? or what can you do about it? all depends on what we each beleive and then how we act. iam constantly asking myself what iam doin about it, what can i do about it, the darkness doesnt rest to offen, as we get closer to 2012 things will get more n more interesting. what power do u av that you can use to make a change? with out power what can u change? how do u get power? my advice to you all is to do what they choose not to do, rise above them in all aspects.

Shouting at the cinema screen won't change the film sadly, we need to change the projection. We can do it but at this junction in time it looks increasingly unlikely, as most people are still morons at the moment, but a lot can happen in a very short time these days.