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dude111
26-01-2012, 04:36 AM
..........Some say "But it's bleach!"............Yes and BLEACH cleans quite well as we know from seeing what it does with clothes! (If used correctly that is.... THE SAME GOES WITH MMS!!!!)
sephera
26-01-2012, 07:03 AM
The news of MMS1 and MMS2 has spread around the whole centre where i go and most are now taking MMS1 and MMS2 with amazing results I am so happy that so many are getting help with the dreadful illness M.S it is so nice to see everyone looking healthy!:)
Some say "But it's bleach!" I say what websites have you gone to some say NHS direct or other sites etc and the sites they have been to are disinformation.
Oh well maybe the ones who scream "it's bleach" will see for themselves the results from others who are actually taking it.
I am doing very well and day by day i am getting better and better as are my children thank you Jim:)
That's great, what kind of procedure are you following. At the moment after getting really good results are the beginning, I'm finding the solution really hard to swallow so I'm not disciplined enough to take it regularly. I can only go up to 4 drops per dosage. If I go to 4 I get pretty bad Nausea and feel sick in the throat. May it's trying to kill off something but I can't handle it.
sephera
26-01-2012, 07:04 AM
Yes and BLEACH cleans quite well as we know from seeing what it does with clothes! (If used correctly that is.... THE SAME GOES WITH MMS!!!!)
No wonder some of my clothes have light splatters on them. I'm a bit clumsy and sometimes get it on myself.
moments
26-01-2012, 12:40 PM
Does anyone knows about any MMS supplier in India. In case I am able to find Sodium Chlorite (28%) can I activate the solution with natural fruit juice or any other natural substance?
Thanks in advance for your answers :)
oneup
26-01-2012, 01:17 PM
has anyone got a good place to buy MMS in the UK? am interested in trying it, I've tried to order it previously but couldn't get anywhere legit looking!!
Any local poolstore
Another good supplier (http://www.eshopsupplies.co.uk/industrial-bleach-p-782.html)
Seriously, I guess some of you guys didn't this (http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/home/mms-scam) (posted before).
The part about the faked pictures is so obvious, I can't believe anyone falls for this shit.
oneup
26-01-2012, 01:23 PM
Does anyone knows about any MMS supplier in India. In case I am able to find Sodium Chlorite (28%) can I activate the solution with natural fruit juice or any other natural substance?
Thanks in advance for your answers :)
You can turn it into a solution by using a natural substance called water. I wouldn't drink it though, the stuff is kinda corrosive.
Potential Acute Health Effects:
Very hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation. Slightly hazardous in case
of skin contact (corrosive). Prolonged exposure may result in skin burns and ulcerations. Over-exposure by inhalation may
cause respiratory irritation. Severe over-exposure can result in death. Inflammation of the eye is characterized by redness,
watering, and itching. Skin inflammation is characterized by itching, scaling, reddening, or, occasionally, blistering.
21_12_2012
26-01-2012, 03:36 PM
The news of MMS1 and MMS2 has spread around the whole centre where i go and most are now taking MMS1 and MMS2 with amazing results I am so happy that so many are getting help with the dreadful illness M.S it is so nice to see everyone looking healthy!:)
Some say "But it's bleach!" I say what websites have you gone to some say NHS direct or other sites etc and the sites they have been to are disinformation.
Oh well maybe the ones who scream "it's bleach" will see for themselves the results from others who are actually taking it.
I am doing very well and day by day i am getting better and better as are my children thank you Jim:)
Best news all week :D:D:D
Thanks for posting :D:D:D
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!
:D:D
21_12_2012
26-01-2012, 03:44 PM
Any local poolstore
Another good supplier (http://www.eshopsupplies.co.uk/industrial-bleach-p-782.html)
Seriously, I guess some of you guys didn't this (http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/home/mms-scam) (posted before).
The part about the faked pictures is so obvious, I can't believe anyone falls for this shit.
yeh....yeh....:rolleyes:
Read through this thread (properly, start to finish) and you'll see a few "MMS DEBUNKED" .... "JIM HUMBLE IS A FRAUD" links such as this you've found.... and watch them being torn apart for the fake sites and articles they really are.
.....or choose to believe the fearmongering propaganda...... up to you :D
And so what if Humble has/had fake pictures on his website ? Does that make the product a fraud ? Have you tried it and failed with it ? (i highly doubt it)
Quick.........!!!......run from the cure !!!!! :rolleyes:
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 12:33 AM
That's great, what kind of procedure are you following. At the moment after getting really good results are the beginning, I'm finding the solution really hard to swallow so I'm not disciplined enough to take it regularly. I can only go up to 4 drops per dosage. If I go to 4 I get pretty bad Nausea and feel sick in the throat. May it's trying to kill off something but I can't handle it.
I take now about 2 drops in morning and 2 before bed i increase if there is a lot of people around me with colds etc.
Sometimes i take 4 in morning and 4 at night. I do whatever i feel comfortable with.
I think every one should do what is best for them. It's not one size fits all that's for sure.
One should take into consideration height/weight/sex/age because of my height and weight and that i am afemale i can probably only take a certain amouint etc. My immune system is already dealing with a illness so i have to do less than my kids who are healthier than me and they can take more.
I cannot take mms1 and mms2 on the days i have oxygen therapy. I just can't sleep.
Have you tried apple to stop the nausea that does help and you can eat apple after you have drunk your mms1 and taken your mms2. Also always drink plenty of water after 5 minutes of taking any mms. Not tap water though cos that does make one feel sick. (tap water is quite toxic)
I have mms baths twice a week and i brush my teeth with it.
It's not about the amount one has i.e 20 drops at a time and if it makes you feel real bad reduce your drops to your comfortable level.
A good maintanice dose is 6 drops a day 3 in morning 3 b4 bed.
Leave an hour before and after food or coffee/tea/ dairy
Do not take with orange juice or any juice with added vitamin c.
You may well find it is killing something off maybe and anyway the mms is helping the bodies immune system to heal the body itself.
Why not try mms2 for a little while if u are getting fed up with mms1? unless of course you have a life threating illness then one needs mms1 and mms2 with an hour between both.
Or why not try out the CDS i am still in the process of trying to make mine i'll keep everyone updated with how i get on. Apparently you don't need citric acid and it has no smell or taste yipee!
Are you using citric acid or fresh limes or lemons to activate your mms?
You may find limes better we do and it does taste better.
My kids love it with limes the lemon was making them feel a bit sick.
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 12:40 AM
yeh....yeh....:rolleyes:
Read through this thread (properly, start to finish) and you'll see a few "MMS DEBUNKED" .... "JIM HUMBLE IS A FRAUD" links such as this you've found.... and watch them being torn apart for the fake sites and articles they really are.
.....or choose to believe the fearmongering propaganda...... up to you :D
And so what if Humble has/had fake pictures on his website ? Does that make the product a fraud ? Have you tried it and failed with it ? (i highly doubt it)
Quick.........!!!......run from the cure !!!!! :rolleyes:
+1
Best thing for anyone to do is try it themselves instead of as you say run from the cure
On monsters inside me the programme there was a woman who got a parasite in her eye guess what the drs used for her?
Yep MMS her eye is saved ok on the programme they did not call it mms but
they said swimming pool cleaner and I am sure it was MMS.
So yep if it's so toxic why add it to food production, swimming pools etc.?
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 12:56 AM
That's great, what kind of procedure are you following. At the moment after getting really good results are the beginning, I'm finding the solution really hard to swallow so I'm not disciplined enough to take it regularly. I can only go up to 4 drops per dosage. If I go to 4 I get pretty bad Nausea and feel sick in the throat. May it's trying to kill off something but I can't handle it.
I found this about nausea you might find helpful it is saying what i said.
I do find in the uk all apple juice does have added vitaminc so unless you can find an apple juice without added vitamin c you could try red grape juice and eat raw apple when you feel sick.
"MMS users are sometimes surprised by sudden nausea as they increase dosage along the way to comprehensive detoxification.
This article asserts that MMS users can reduce and even avoid nausea
as they progress through the detoxification process.
By closely observing how chorine dioxide progressively destroys pathogens, MMS users can act to reduce or prevent nausea.
FIRST OBSERVATION:
Nausea occurring during the one to three drop phase can be reduced or avoided completely.
Using standard instructions, MMS users start with one drop morning and evening (mixed as directed). The next day they move up to two drops morning and evening, etc. Eventually at the 15 drop (or higher) level they stay at that high level for 5 to 7 days, then drop back to a small maintenance level of 4 to 6 drops twice each week.
Recently it was discovered that a few people are allergic to citric acid. The MMS instructions state that one or another weak acid must be mixed with MMS. Five drops acid mixed with each one drop of MMS. If someone experiences nausea at the one drop level, it could indicate a reaction caused by the use of citric acid. Probably one or two drops of citric acid under the tongue would trigger the reaction if that is a factor to be considered.
Similarly, a few people are allergic to lemon juice which could cause an early nauseous reaction. Such people can easily switch to another acid such as lime juice or unfiltered vinegar. These early nausea cases represent rare anomalies. Nausea can be bypassed easily by experimenting with different acids at the one drop level. (For the uninitiated, the MMS and acid is mixed and then after three minutes it is diluted with water or apple juice for easy drinking)."
MMS users are sometimes surprised by sudden nausea as they increase dosage along the way to comprehensive detoxification.
This article asserts that MMS users can reduce and even avoid nausea
as they progress through the detoxification process.
By closely observing how chorine dioxide progressively destroys pathogens, MMS users can act to reduce or prevent nausea.
FIRST OBSERVATION:
Nausea occurring during the one to three drop phase can be reduced or avoided completely.
Using standard instructions, MMS users start with one drop morning and evening (mixed as directed). The next day they move up to two drops morning and evening, etc. Eventually at the 15 drop (or higher) level they stay at that high level for 5 to 7 days, then drop back to a small maintenance level of 4 to 6 drops twice each week.
Recently it was discovered that a few people are allergic to citric acid. The MMS instructions state that one or another weak acid must be mixed with MMS. Five drops acid mixed with each one drop of MMS. If someone experiences nausea at the one drop level, it could indicate a reaction caused by the use of citric acid. Probably one or two drops of citric acid under the tongue would trigger the reaction if that is a factor to be considered.
Similarly, a few people are allergic to lemon juice which could cause an early nauseous reaction. Such people can easily switch to another acid such as lime juice or unfiltered vinegar. These early nausea cases represent rare anomalies. Nausea can be bypassed easily by experimenting with different acids at the one drop level. (For the uninitiated, the MMS and acid is mixed and then after three minutes it is diluted with water or apple juice for easy drinking)."
http://mms4life.wordpress.com/mms-overcome-nausea-new-info/
Always drink lots of water after 5 minutes of taking any mms because there will be a lot of toxins your body needs to get rid of and this can cause a herx if you don't drink lots of water i drink bottled sparkling water.
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 01:19 AM
Just a note to all those who doubt MMS well more people die from Big pharma drugs each year.
Big pharma drugs have bad side effects including death.
Big pharma drugs cannot cure anyone just treat the symptoms big pharma drugs are a one size fits all most of the time.
One can still get a herx from antibiotics as the body rids the pathogens as best it can.But the body is also cleared of all the good stuff it needs that stops candida going haywire causing thrush to name one side affect.
Nobody has died from MMS
Our body makes it already so it is not alien to us.
Antibiotics to treat lyme for example can cost £700 per person per month in the uk and no we do not get it for free on the NHS because the NHS will only give a person with Lyme 3 days worth and with Chronic Lyme some have to take antibiotics for 5 years as Lyme builds a resistance to them.
Nothing can build a resistance to MMS cos MMS gas is oxygen for the red blood cells.
Oh yeah and MMS works and is cheap! works fast and is effective more so than antibiotics and unlike antibiotics mms does not wash out all the good fauna in your system.
If it is so harmful to us why do i look and feel so healthy after years and years of suffering?
The drs can't cure me big pharma has no cure for me i was a write off all they could do was relieve me of symptoms some of the time but to the medical proffession i was a write off. I was just money and a guinea pig as they had no idea what to do for me.
Yep i'll stick with the mms any day as i have had better results in a very short space of time compared with years of big pharma drugs that did me more harm than good.
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 01:31 AM
Does anyone knows about any MMS supplier in India. In case I am able to find Sodium Chlorite (28%) can I activate the solution with natural fruit juice or any other natural substance?
Thanks in advance for your answers :)
I am sure there is a guy who is making it in India if you message Jim i am sure he will point you in the right direction or you could see if there is a supplier on this site here: http://jimhumble.biz/index.php
Can you not buy from a USA supplier and have it posted to you?
or UK supplier? Is this possiable? I am sure the usa supplier ships worldwide.
To activate i use lime juice 5 drops per 1 drop of mms.
I drink it with red grape juice.
My eldest drinks it with bottled water.
MMS has to be activated with an acid some use vineger but i can't do that as i get heartburn. Lime helps me more and i don't get heartburn.
When you by the mms the supplier will supply you with citric acid. but because we are allergic to that we use fresh lime.
We use the citric acid we get with the mms for making our bath bombs and it is really good. so nothing goes to waste here!
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 01:49 AM
That does annoy me when they say its bleach.
best place to get it in the UK someone please.
Most FDA approved drugs are poisin, but hey they make more money that MMS so its ok, even if ou die from it :rolleyes:
I get it form USA and the UK both are good and trustworthy places:
http://www.mineral-solutions.net/
or uk
http://www.mmseurope.info/checkout.html
or have a look on here:
http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=10&id=7515&Itemid=66#7515
oneup
27-01-2012, 04:09 PM
Read through this thread (properly, start to finish) and you'll see a few "MMS DEBUNKED" .... "JIM HUMBLE IS A FRAUD" links such as this you've found.... and watch them being torn apart for the fake sites and articles they really are.
Yeah it was a while ago but I believe I originally posted that link. They don't get torn apart, I haven't seen a single proper counterargument, and I've been following this thread for some time.
And so what if Humble has/had fake pictures on his website ? Does that make the product a fraud?
Would you buy a product from someone who engages in these kind of practices? What kind of legitimate reason would he have to do this? As posted on the site:
These alone don't really prove anything, but they do stain the credibility of the kind looking old man.
And you can't deny it. It is *really* obvious. If you zoom in on it you can just see the edges:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2779/98789324.png
Have you tried it and failed with it ? (i highly doubt it)
First, I don't need it. Second, I am naturally a bit reluctant to drink bleach.
21_12_2012
27-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Yeah it was a while ago but I believe I originally posted that link. They don't get torn apart, I haven't seen a single proper counterargument, and I've been following this thread for some time.
Rubbish.
And you can't deny it. It is *really* obvious. If you zoom in on it you can just see the edges:
....and ?
First, I don't need it.Second, I am naturally a bit reluctant to drink bleach.
Don't then.
21_12_2012
27-01-2012, 06:42 PM
+1
Best thing for anyone to do is try it themselves instead of as you say run from the cure
On monsters inside me the programme there was a woman who got a parasite in her eye guess what the drs used for her?
Yep MMS her eye is saved ok on the programme they did not call it mms but
they said swimming pool cleaner and I am sure it was MMS.
So yep if it's so toxic why add it to food production, swimming pools etc.?
Brilliant....
Another MMS SUCCESS !!!
And yes, MMS2 is a swimming pool cleaner. It is known as Calcium Hypochlorite. I have bought and used MMS2 successfully myself, and cured flu within 48 hours with it.
Who'd have thought a pool cleaner could do all this :D
oneup
27-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Rubbish.
Whatever
....and ?
And???? You trust people who do bussiness that way? See my signature.
Don't then.
I certainly wont.
21_12_2012
27-01-2012, 07:53 PM
And???? You trust people who do bussiness that way? See my signature.
Like I asked you, but you didn't answer:- "does that make the product a fraud ? Have you tried it and failed with it ?"
Your signature would definately apply to you, I agree.
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Brilliant....
Another MMS SUCCESS !!!
And yes, MMS2 is a swimming pool cleaner. It is known as Calcium Hypochlorite. I have bought and used MMS2 successfully myself, and cured flu within 48 hours with it.
Who'd have thought a pool cleaner could do all this :D
Yes who would of thought swimming pool cleaner could do all this.
MMS2 is excellant and some have increased their dose at the centre with amazing results :-)
I saw a woman today at the centre she had lost her swallow, she had constant twitching so much so it was affecting her life she was in a wheelchair and unable to feed herself her speech was badly affected.
Well after 7 days of mms she has stopped shaking and twitching her speech is amazing she had no wheelchair no stick and she is able to walk! wow.
I am so happy for her:)
Another thing i have found with mms is my nails and hair are fantastic wow no more split nails they are strong no bumps and ridges and grow at a fantastic rate! my nails are so strong:) I look as though i have had a french manicure ( that has saved me some cash)
My hair is full of body and no split ends and has fantastic colour.
My skin has got young again yes it's very springy not ageing it just springs back if i test my elbows or Knuckles before if i squeezes those areas and counted in seconds how long it would go back it would take 2 minutes now my skin just springs back!
My age spots i was getting on my hands are nearly all gone. (I am not old btw i am in my late 30's)
Obviously my illness was ageing me prematurley.
Thank you Jim:)
wonderfullife
27-01-2012, 08:39 PM
Whatever
And???? You trust people who do bussiness that way? See my signature.
I certainly wont.
I really do not think bleach can do all this for a human lets face facts if it was so bad why the good health for so many?
No one is forceing you to try mms and if you do not want to well don't but don't debunk it till you have tried it yourself.
I know a lot of people have invested a lot in the system and are fearful of the new and go around debunking.
Or you are part of the big pharma and are concerned about the loss of revenue perhaps?
Come on don't run from the cure because of fear.
dude111
27-01-2012, 11:46 PM
No one is forceing you to try mms and if you do not want to well don't but don't debunk it till you have tried it yourself.Totally agree!!!!!
The only ppl who do this ARE USUALLY BIG PHARMA LOSERS WHO DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF LOSING $$$$$$$ SO THEY WILL SAY ANYTHING!!
21_12_2012
28-01-2012, 10:27 AM
Yes who would of thought swimming pool cleaner could do all this.
MMS2 is excellant and some have increased their dose at the centre with amazing results :-)
I saw a woman today at the centre she had lost her swallow, she had constant twitching so much so it was affecting her life she was in a wheelchair and unable to feed herself her speech was badly affected.
Well after 7 days of mms she has stopped shaking and twitching her speech is amazing she had no wheelchair no stick and she is able to walk! wow.
I am so happy for her:)
This is the kind of stuff that makes my day...in fact my week sometimes :D:D:D
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!!!!!!!!!
Another thing i have found with mms is my nails and hair are fantastic wow no more split nails they are strong no bumps and ridges and grow at a fantastic rate! my nails are so strong:) I look as though i have had a french manicure ( that has saved me some cash)
My hair is full of body and no split ends and has fantastic colour.
My skin has got young again yes it's very springy not ageing it just springs back if i test my elbows or Knuckles before if i squeezes those areas and counted in seconds how long it would go back it would take 2 minutes now my skin just springs back!
My age spots i was getting on my hands are nearly all gone. (I am not old btw i am in my late 30's)
Obviously my illness was ageing me prematurley.
Thank you Jim:)
Brilliant !!! I too have the younger skin syndrome due to MMS, it definately knocks the physical years off that's for sure.
Cheers Jim !!!
21_12_2012
28-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Totally agree!!!!!
The only ppl who do this ARE USUALLY BIG PHARMA LOSERS WHO DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF LOSING $$$$$$$ SO THEY WILL SAY ANYTHING!!
Usually the case mate, but there are genuine posters from time to time who get their knickers in a twist on this thread, totally falling for the fear mongering, and then attempting to defend the propaganda.
I won't name names but I can think of at least 2 genuine posters from the forum who have been and now gone from this thread protesting about 'MMS Dangers' and calling Jim Humble every name under the sun.
That's the mental programming defending itself...shame..... but it happens.
I especially like the comments such as:-
"He's a fraud, out to make money"
Yeh right, that's why he encourages people to make their own.....FOR PENNIES !!! haha
justawakening
28-01-2012, 03:31 PM
'One can still get a herx from antibiotics as the body rids the pathogens as best it can.But the body is also cleared of all the good stuff it needs that stops candida going haywire causing thrush to name one side affect'
Maybe that's why I get diarrhea every time I take antibiotics? Sorry, just a minor light bulb thought there.
I came across this thread a few days ago, have read it from start to finish and am planning on ordering some MMS and giving it a try when I get paid next week.
Thank you wonderfullife for the UK supplier link - had been googling my way around but it's difficult to know who to trust with your money when it comes to smaller not so well known sites sometimes.
Have to say I'm excited and terrified in equal measures (absolutely loathe feeling and being sick) Hopefully with the tips on avoiding nausea I'll be ok though :)
21_12_2012
28-01-2012, 06:49 PM
I came across this thread a few days ago, have read it from start to finish and am planning on ordering some MMS and giving it a try when I get paid next week.
Thank you wonderfullife for the UK supplier link - had been googling my way around but it's difficult to know who to trust with your money when it comes to smaller not so well known sites sometimes.
Have to say I'm excited and terrified in equal measures (absolutely loathe feeling and being sick) Hopefully with the tips on avoiding nausea I'll be ok though :)
Excellent ! Well done for taking the plunge, and all the best with it.
Will see you back here soon reporting YOUR MMS SUCCESS!!!
(gotta love this thread !!!:D:D)
21_12_2012
29-01-2012, 10:46 AM
Bump ! :d:d
wonderfullife
29-01-2012, 02:57 PM
'One can still get a herx from antibiotics as the body rids the pathogens as best it can.But the body is also cleared of all the good stuff it needs that stops candida going haywire causing thrush to name one side affect'
Maybe that's why I get diarrhea every time I take antibiotics? Sorry, just a minor light bulb thought there.
I came across this thread a few days ago, have read it from start to finish and am planning on ordering some MMS and giving it a try when I get paid next week.
Thank you wonderfullife for the UK supplier link - had been googling my way around but it's difficult to know who to trust with your money when it comes to smaller not so well known sites sometimes.
Have to say I'm excited and terrified in equal measures (absolutely loathe feeling and being sick) Hopefully with the tips on avoiding nausea I'll be ok though :)
The sites i have posted are reputable i buy from them we use their mms.
It can be daunting but I will say you will not regret taking mms there is nothing to fear if anything you may think why didn't i do this earlier.
Well this is how i felt anyhows.
The feeling of sickness can be managed and tbh i don't have any feelings of nausea anymore i did at first but i see now my body was flushing out the Cr*p that should not of been there in the first place.
My kids don't get nausea anymore and now taking mms has become second nature.
I used to get sicker on antibiotics that's for sure but not sick cos my body was flushing no i got sicker from candida that the antibiotics caused to go haywire.
Raw apple really does help btw so make sure you have plenty of those and you may find lime juice a better taste.
Yes you may get the runs but that's a good sign with the mms. I don't nor do my kids.
Others at the M.S therapy centre where i go don't either.
Good luck you won't regret it.:)
wonderfullife
29-01-2012, 03:47 PM
Usually the case mate, but there are genuine posters from time to time who get their knickers in a twist on this thread, totally falling for the fear mongering, and then attempting to defend the propaganda.
I won't name names but I can think of at least 2 genuine posters from the forum who have been and now gone from this thread protesting about 'MMS Dangers' and calling Jim Humble every name under the sun.
That's the mental programming defending itself...shame..... but it happens.
I especially like the comments such as:-
"He's a fraud, out to make money"
Yeh right, that's why he encourages people to make their own.....FOR PENNIES !!! haha
Yeah Jim is the guy who gives MMS to others for no charge the firat fraud i have known who doesn't take any money from any one and encourages others to actually make their own either he is stuiped or what we all know kind and just wants everyone to have good health.
Unlike Bill gates who is giving vaccines to people in africa for maleria for free but one cruck of this generosity the people also have buy drugs from him and his big pharma mates to enable the free vaccine to work.
Yeah these people have $50 + a month for that... NOT.
Do we trust Jim who gives mms for free to those in need and no extra charge a man who is not a multi billionare and wants good health for everybody.
Or
do we trust a multi billionares/big pharma who won't find a cure just leech money from unsuspecting humans who are putting their lives in the hands of big pharma etc.
I don't tust anyone who's adgenda $$$$ and £££ and not good health for mankind.
Being ill and disabled costs:
Loss of income/salary/loss of career
Need of care
Presciptions/medication
Equipment for disabled needs walking sticks/crutches/wheelchair/ ramps for the home adapted bath/toilet/light fittings/furniture/kitchen equipment
equiped home for need i.e a bungalow or ground floor accomadation or a stair lift if you have staire in home.
Larger doors
Larger bathroom
Larger kitchen etc
Higher heating bills
Incontience pads
Equipment for actually consuming nourishment
adapted reading equipment
adapted vechile to get around in
Time
Mental well being/health
Operations
Marriages/relationships (if one is long term disabled it could cost your marriage/relationships but if you are one of the lucky ones this may not happen).
Self worth
Independence/freedom
family life
Your Life.
It all adds up to thousands of $$ and ££££
MMS costs pennies and is worth every pence I would say MMS is priceless.
MMS can give one ones life back.
is there really any argument of what is better?
justawakening
29-01-2012, 03:57 PM
Thank you all for the reassurances - there are still conflicting voices in my head about whether taking something that smells and tastes so bad can really be doing a body any good.
Mind you, it did occur to me this morning that the cigarettes and wine that I have no hesistation on ingesting most days are far worse and more poisenous than MMS.
Also feel that I have no real avenue left with regards to traditional medical care - everytime I go to my Dr which is rare tbh without fail I get fobbed off with platitudes.
Both of my feet have been painful when walking for literally years now, no idea what causes it and I can walk but after about an hour it's excrutiating. Wearing Birkenstocks on a daily basis is the only way I can keep going at all.
Dr's solution? Have you tried taking Ibuprofen? Well Dr, THAT is revolutionary - had I known about this miracle cure I wouldn't have bothered you. Or the classic 'it's a virus' to everything else.
This site has opened my eyes to the fact that mainstream medicine has no interest in curing anything, only managing the symptoms.
Short list of ailments I'm hoping to address with MMS now follows (will be useful for me when I've started taking it to compare before and after)
Painful feet when walking for more than 30 mins.
Itchy skin rash on left side of chest which just doesn't want to shift no matter what cream I put on it.
Raise energy levels (which are sloth like tbh) and help clear near constant brain fog.
I'm ready to press the order button on Tuesday :)
wonderfullife
29-01-2012, 04:34 PM
Thank you all for the reassurances - there are still conflicting voices in my head about whether taking something that smells and tastes so bad can really be doing a body any good.
Mind you, it did occur to me this morning that the cigarettes and wine that I have no hesistation on ingesting most days are far worse and more poisenous than MMS.
Also feel that I have no real avenue left with regards to traditional medical care - everytime I go to my Dr which is rare tbh without fail I get fobbed off with platitudes.
Both of my feet have been painful when walking for literally years now, no idea what causes it and I can walk but after about an hour it's excrutiating. Wearing Birkenstocks on a daily basis is the only way I can keep going at all.
Dr's solution? Have you tried taking Ibuprofen? Well Dr, THAT is revolutionary - had I known about this miracle cure I wouldn't have bothered you. Or the classic 'it's a virus' to everything else.
This site has opened my eyes to the fact that mainstream medicine has no interest in curing anything, only managing the symptoms.
Short list of ailments I'm hoping to address with MMS now follows (will be useful for me when I've started taking it to compare before and after)
Painful feet when walking for more than 30 mins.
Itchy skin rash on left side of chest which just doesn't want to shift no matter what cream I put on it.
Raise energy levels (which are sloth like tbh) and help clear near constant brain fog.
I'm ready to press the order button on Tuesday :)
Great that u are going to get mms and i am sure you will see an improvement in your health.
good idea to keep a log of before and after just so you can see the progress.
Your lucky you got told a virus or ibrufron by your Dr i was told it was all in my head and i was making it up.
Then the diagnoses of M.S and now the Dr's have written me off cos there is nothing they can do.
Apricot seeds taste real bad and bitter but they are oh so good for the body and contain the very vitamin we need. ho hum isn't it always the way when it is good for us it sometimes does taste real bad.
Even Jim hates the taste and smell.
Once you do get your mms it might be worth looking into making CDS because this has no taste and no smell as far as i can gather.
But until you do get the CDS take the mms.
Are you buying the mms2 as well?
justawakening
29-01-2012, 05:16 PM
"isn't it always the way when it is good for us it sometimes does taste real bad"
:) Yes too true, I grew up in germany where the credo was always 'if it doesn't taste bad it isn't medicine/medicinal'
Still trying to get my head around the normal MMS let alone MMS2. 2 is capsules yes? I also thought 2 was for sufferers of life threatening conditions?
Need to do more reading up on the different forms tbh.
Oh, one thing I keep wondering about is the vitamin c used to combat sickness and for taking after the MMS dose - what form does this take for most on here? Tablets, some sort of liquid? High vit c fruit/veg?
21_12_2012
29-01-2012, 08:40 PM
Yeah Jim is the guy who gives MMS to others for no charge the firat fraud i have known who doesn't take any money from any one and encourages others to actually make their own either he is stuiped or what we all know kind and just wants everyone to have good health.
Unlike Bill gates who is giving vaccines to people in africa for maleria for free but one cruck of this generosity the people also have buy drugs from him and his big pharma mates to enable the free vaccine to work.
Yeah these people have $50 + a month for that... NOT.
Do we trust Jim who gives mms for free to those in need and no extra charge a man who is not a multi billionare and wants good health for everybody.
Or
do we trust a multi billionares/big pharma who won't find a cure just leech money from unsuspecting humans who are putting their lives in the hands of big pharma etc.
I don't tust anyone who's adgenda $$$$ and £££ and not good health for mankind.
Being ill and disabled costs:
Loss of income/salary/loss of career
Need of care
Presciptions/medication
Equipment for disabled needs walking sticks/crutches/wheelchair/ ramps for the home adapted bath/toilet/light fittings/furniture/kitchen equipment
equiped home for need i.e a bungalow or ground floor accomadation or a stair lift if you have staire in home.
Larger doors
Larger bathroom
Larger kitchen etc
Higher heating bills
Incontience pads
Equipment for actually consuming nourishment
adapted reading equipment
adapted vechile to get around in
Time
Mental well being/health
Operations
Marriages/relationships (if one is long term disabled it could cost your marriage/relationships but if you are one of the lucky ones this may not happen).
Self worth
Independence/freedom
family life
Your Life.
It all adds up to thousands of $$ and ££££
MMS costs pennies and is worth every pence I would say MMS is priceless.
MMS can give one ones life back.
is there really any argument of what is better?
Magnificent post !!! True right down to the last letter :D:D
21_12_2012
29-01-2012, 08:46 PM
"isn't it always the way when it is good for us it sometimes does taste real bad"
:) Yes too true, I grew up in germany where the credo was always 'if it doesn't taste bad it isn't medicine/medicinal'
Still trying to get my head around the normal MMS let alone MMS2. 2 is capsules yes? I also thought 2 was for sufferers of life threatening conditions?
MMS2 can be used by serious or non-serious disease sufferers. It's stronger than MMS1, and you don't have to mix anything like you do with MMS1, you just put it in a capsule and swallow it.
I did taste chlorine when i burped later on a few times, but it sure did work. I've only ever had to take 4 capsules of my MMS2 supply, and that was for a serious flu that all my family caught over Christmas one year, and i felt myself coming down with it......and another virus the year after....both went within 48 hours of taking the capsules.
Jim Humble advises people to take both MMS1 and MMS2 for the more serious illness's.
My advice to everyone who starts on MMS is to start on 1 drop a day, never go in at the deep end, always build up slowly.
When i first did my 3 month detox on MMS, i got up to around 50 drops per day at the very end, and was not feeling sick or having diarrhoea. But it took 3 months to build up to that. I then stopped and didnt have any for a good while. I felt re-born so didn't feel i needed it until i get a virus or something (only 2 virus's in the last 2 or 3 years, and both were killed in 48 hours by MMS)
Oh, one thing I keep wondering about is the vitamin c used to combat sickness and for taking after the MMS dose - what form does this take for most on here? Tablets, some sort of liquid? High vit c fruit/veg?
Don't take vitamin C / ascorbic acid with MMS, it WEAKENS the effect of the MMS.
Take it a few hours later if you need to. 100% pure apple juice is ok to take with it though. I take wheatgrass powder and spirulina powders as my 'supplements'. Both contain excellent amounts of minerals/vitamins, and shouldnt interfere with MMS
justawakening
29-01-2012, 08:50 PM
It's amazing when the impact of illness is listed out like that (as in wonderfullife's post) - something I've not really considered before.
Just sitting doing a bit more research and it's just occured to me that I'm actually more 'afraid' (for want of a better word) of MMS working as stated/claimed.
The amount of illness and disease I know of, from the neighbours dog with cancer to the friend with crohn's, colleagues at work with coughs that just won't shift, horrible dental abscesses, all shuttling back and forth to doctors who just can't help them :(
Since I'm the sort of person who just won't be able to keep quiet about this cure it won't be long before a lot of 'normal' people will completely write me off as a complete fruit loop :p
Ah well, better to be a healthy fruit loop than a diseased 'normal' person I guess.
wonderfullife
30-01-2012, 12:19 AM
It's amazing when the impact of illness is listed out like that (as in wonderfullife's post) - something I've not really considered before.
Just sitting doing a bit more research and it's just occured to me that I'm actually more 'afraid' (for want of a better word) of MMS working as stated/claimed.
The amount of illness and disease I know of, from the neighbours dog with cancer to the friend with crohn's, colleagues at work with coughs that just won't shift, horrible dental abscesses, all shuttling back and forth to doctors who just can't help them :(
Since I'm the sort of person who just won't be able to keep quiet about this cure it won't be long before a lot of 'normal' people will completely write me off as a complete fruit loop :p
Ah well, better to be a healthy fruit loop than a diseased 'normal' person I guess.
Yes I was quite shocked when i actually typed the impact of illness thing is a lot of the time when you are actually suffering and going from one symptom to another how much it affects your life and the cost.
MMS can be used for animals babies and the elderly basically everyone.
No you will not be able to keep quiet about it and at first the normal people do think one is a complete loop!
I don't care I would rather be a healthy loop than a unhealthy normal muggle.lol
Please sign the petitions about the welfare reform
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20968
http://carerwatch.com/reform/
Please visit this thread : http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=198720
and this thread http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=198905
wonderfullife
30-01-2012, 12:28 AM
Magnificent post !!! True right down to the last letter :D:D
Thank you:)
dude111
30-01-2012, 01:58 AM
Don't take vitamin C / ascorbic acid with MMS, it WEAKENS the effect of the MMS.Indeed... This is a VERY GOOD thing to tell people!
Vit-C IS VERY GOOD but it doesnt react well with MMS!
sephera
30-01-2012, 06:27 AM
Indeed... This is a VERY GOOD thing to tell people!
Vit-C IS VERY GOOD but it doesnt react well with MMS!
How long afterwards can you take Vitamin C?
21_12_2012
30-01-2012, 03:02 PM
How long afterwards can you take Vitamin C?
If I remember correctly, the lifespan of Chlorine Dioxide is only an hour and a half (i could be wrong, will check again) so i presume it is ok to take Vitamin C after 2 hours of taking the MMS, and it should not weaken the effect after this time.
I personally .would avoid it altogether if possible and just drink 100% apple juice
wonderfullife
30-01-2012, 03:24 PM
If I remember correctly, the lifespan of Chlorine Dioxide is only an hour and a half (i could be wrong, will check again) so i presume it is ok to take Vitamin C after 2 hours of taking the MMS, and it should not weaken the effect after this time.
I personally .would avoid it altogether if possible and just drink 100% apple juice
If I take vitaminC i have found from my own experience that it is best for me to leave a good two hour gap.
In the UK all the apple juice i can find has added vitaminC don't know why they have a need to add VitaminC to apple Juice and it is meant to be fresh???
21_12_2012
30-01-2012, 04:50 PM
If I take vitaminC i have found from my own experience that it is best for me to leave a good two hour gap.
In the UK all the apple juice i can find has added vitaminC don't know why they have a need to add VitaminC to apple Juice and it is meant to be fresh???
I can't remember the name of the brand i used to use, but it was 'not from concentrate' and had no added stuff, it was from asda i think.
wonderfullife
30-01-2012, 06:40 PM
I can't remember the name of the brand i used to use, but it was 'not from concentrate' and had no added stuff, it was from asda i think.
I didn't even bother looking in Asda duh I am so glad there is some i can drink wow i shall pootle off to Asda now and see if i can get some.
thank you
justawakening
30-01-2012, 11:13 PM
Ah, asda - brilliant, thanks! Googled my head off for suitable juices yesterday and came up with an organic type sold in waitrose but my pocket can't sustain that bar one or two bottles.
Could someone help this dimbo out some more on that subject please? Is it right that it's only the added vitamin c/ascorbic acid I need concern myself with?
Watched a YouTube video yesterday by a guy in the uk (v good btw, totally unfussy presentation and genuine enthusiasm, was nice to see) anyway, he was using welch's
purple grape but the ingredients list for that on their website lists vitamin c in it?
justawakening
30-01-2012, 11:19 PM
Oh, am also considering ordering a bag of gel capsules (seem to be reasonably priced) as i think jim is quite right when he says that the taste/smell might not seem so bad at one or two drops but once you get to the higher doses it can put someone off to the point of giving up.
If anyone had done the capsule thing would be good to know how fiddly it is and if it invokes nausea more with the MMS hitting the stomach that way?
Thanks in advance - can't wait to get started now and I have already added the neighbours cancer suffering dog as an early 'guinea pig' (after me that is) - owners are quite open to the possibilities of alternative treatment it turns out :)
justawakening
01-02-2012, 10:57 PM
Well, that's MMS ordered, next stop actually taking it once it's arrived. See you all on the other side :)
sikhi1
01-02-2012, 11:57 PM
hello everyone, could someone tell me where i could buy this product in the UK? Or is it available in the chemists? Thanks in advance.
justawakening
02-02-2012, 06:27 PM
Hello sikh1 - I'm in the uk and ordered mine from mineral solutions yesterday.
Can't do links atm but if you google mineral solutions it comes up straight away.
Prices are in dollars but as you go through the ordering process you get given uk postage rates for your postcode and you get the converted price as well.
MMS 1 plus 1st class signed for postage worked out at a little over £17 so not bad at all.
Or try the links posted by wonderfullife on page 127 of this tread.
Mineral solutions is given as a uk supplier on the jim humble forum so I trust they're not dodgy or anything :)
dude111
03-02-2012, 05:36 AM
Good luck with it :)
wonderfullife
03-02-2012, 09:20 PM
Hello sikh1 - I'm in the uk and ordered mine from mineral solutions yesterday.
Can't do links atm but if you google mineral solutions it comes up straight away.
Prices are in dollars but as you go through the ordering process you get given uk postage rates for your postcode and you get the converted price as well.
MMS 1 plus 1st class signed for postage worked out at a little over £17 so not bad at all.
Or try the links posted by wonderfullife on page 127 of this tread.
Mineral solutions is given as a uk supplier on the jim humble forum so I trust they're not dodgy or anything :)
No mineral solutions is not dodgey very trustworthy be careful if supplier of MMS is charging very high because it should not be.
there is a woman who Jim has asked her to stop this she was charging $500.00 for mms capsules and as Jim said they were just sugar pills.
Always go to Jim's site for suppliers.
£17.00 is not a bad price at all considering how much illness actually costs us or how much disability costs in the long run.
If one is a healthy human the £17 bottle can last up to 2 years I go through my bottles quicker because there is three of us taking it.
Even still x's 3 people getting sick v extra bottles of MMS Still £17 per bottle is very good.
Or we could make our own i for one have not got the time right now to do this so i would rather buy from a supplier.
wonderfullife
03-02-2012, 09:33 PM
hello everyone, could someone tell me where i could buy this product in the UK? Or is it available in the chemists? Thanks in advance.
No you cannot get it from a chemist.
Or on presciption from your GP.
MMS2 is "swimming pool cleaner" (Hypochlorite acid) which our body needs.
but You have to be careful who you buy this from Mineral solutions is the best place it is safe.
Don't just go down to your local swimming pool supplier unless you know for sure the stuff is safe.
I have heard that a Dr at Breakspears clinic in London is using MMS for some patients i am awaiting more info regarding this.
21_12_2012
04-02-2012, 09:29 AM
Oh, am also considering ordering a bag of gel capsules (seem to be reasonably priced) as i think jim is quite right when he says that the taste/smell might not seem so bad at one or two drops but once you get to the higher doses it can put someone off to the point of giving up.
If anyone had done the capsule thing would be good to know how fiddly it is and if it invokes nausea more with the MMS hitting the stomach that way?
The 2 times i did MMS2 i did not feel any nausea at all, but i tasted chlorine when i burped afterwards (every time) for a few hours.
It wasn't fiddly at all to get it in the (size zero) capsules. I just poured some mms2 onto a piece of paper and made a fold and poured it into the gelcap from there.
justawakening
04-02-2012, 03:25 PM
MMS delivered today - impressed with how quick that was.
When I unpacked it I discovered that the citric acid is supplied in granular form and an empty bottle.
Which means I need to either make some distiller water to mix it or hunt some down to buy.
Was I being a bit thick in not realising that's how it's supplied? All the pictures and videos I've seen gave the impression it was ready mixed for use.
I will go get some fresh lemons or limes today to use as an activator until I can get hold of distiller water so it won't stop me taking it.
Just thought I'd post in case anyone else was as dopey as me and didn't realise distiller water is needed to make up the activator :)
justawakening
04-02-2012, 03:26 PM
distilled water not distiller, damn predictive style of writing...
21_12_2012
04-02-2012, 10:40 PM
You can use de-ionised water (i do, in fact i read that it is recommended over distilled for some reason)
It's available from many places (supermarkets in the car accessory section)
justawakening
05-02-2012, 12:21 PM
Thank you 2012 - all my googling on the water issue said not to use de-ionised.
Should have just asked here, amazing how much misleading information floats around the Internet!
Got a whole net of reduced limes and lemons last night (I took that as a good sign :))
Starting with the MMS today so will hopefully be back with my own success reports soon.
sephera
11-02-2012, 05:38 AM
Has anyone heard of the new protocol with baking soda?
I have been putting it off taking this because of the taste, it bad even with Apple juice and grape juice now.
elpressiedente
11-02-2012, 06:38 AM
I use rain water collected from my galvanized tin roof
and good fresh bottled spring water will do like Fiji water or Arrow field bottled water..
It must come from a spring or pure artesian source and be uncontaminated by man.
Do on use purified or water from a company owned by Coca Cola or Pepsi
I have used this product for 18 years now....
This 'stuff' has the ability to extinct prostate cancer
my Engineer mixed the Sodium Bicarbonate with maple syrup and his colon cancer was gone in 3 weeks, he also took dandelion root which he dug up from my fields fresh.
justawakening
11-02-2012, 06:30 PM
Just thought I'd come and post an update on my MMS experience so far.
Day one of taking it it killed a toothache (one of those low level but ever present types) and cleared a 'frog' from the back of my throat which had been there for a couple of weeks.
Day's two and three I noticed that both of my feet were feeling much better which far less pain than I've had in about 5 years!
Day four I felt like absolute death, no energy whatsoever, feeling sick, disoriented, two migraines in the space of two days and just bleh all round. In fact I felt so bad I almost convinced myself MMS was poisoning me and I was imagining the healing.
All of the negative feelings turned out to be a particulary vicious period - what an idiot! :o
Mind you, in my defence, I had none of my usual symptoms of that time of the month so it took me by complete surprise (an unexpected bonus for women perhaps?) :)
Out of all of it though I cannot get over the improvement in my feet. I wore a low heel all day around the office when only the previous week I'd had to take them off after only minutes because the pain(s) were just so sharp and horrible.
I don't have to make a dash for my 'health shoes' straight from the shower anymore in fact I can walk around at home without any shoes quite comfortably now.
Had a mad dash around town today, walked around three hours and was ok. One foot still plays up after a 'tour de force' but it's bearable now and the one that used to be the worst is absolutely fine.
Walking around the supermarket earlier in week I automatically headed for the painkiller section and then realised I didn't need any because nothing was hurting me which is brilliant and is already saving me money.
I'm slowly regaining a sizeable chunk of my life - this whole foot issue didn't mean I was disabled and not doing things but the pain was always there in the background plus the nagging worry of 'WHAT is this?' The pita of having to buy and only wear my 'special' shoes (which, frankly are not made for winter weather either) the cost and effect of constantly taking over the counter painkillers etc.
Being a natural 'coper' I had pushed it to the back of my mind as one of those things I would just have to put up with, forever more than likely and hadn't realised just how much it was effecting me, really.
I'm delighted and baffled in equal measures - still can't understand how something that kills bacteria and pathogens etc in the body can heal something like my feet when the pain had always felt like a bone pain (like something was broken almost or at least very badly sprained)
Can't wait to see what other improvements MMS cares to bring me and it's all thanks to this Forum so a big thank you to you all! :D
dude111
12-02-2012, 02:35 AM
Im glad its helping you.. IM SORRY YOU HAD A LITTLE BAD REACTION TO IT.. I guess thats why they say TAKE IT VERY SLOW!!
I might take this myself but i dont wanna have bad reaction,etc to it!!
Did you start by taking 1 drop per day?? (Just put the drop on a spoon and consuming it?)
How exactly do ya take it??
21_12_2012
12-02-2012, 10:35 AM
Just thought I'd come and post an update on my MMS experience so far.
Day one of taking it it killed a toothache (one of those low level but ever present types) and cleared a 'frog' from the back of my throat which had been there for a couple of weeks.
Day's two and three I noticed that both of my feet were feeling much better which far less pain than I've had in about 5 years!
Day four I felt like absolute death, no energy whatsoever, feeling sick, disoriented, two migraines in the space of two days and just bleh all round. In fact I felt so bad I almost convinced myself MMS was poisoning me and I was imagining the healing.
All of the negative feelings turned out to be a particulary vicious period - what an idiot! :o
Mind you, in my defence, I had none of my usual symptoms of that time of the month so it took me by complete surprise (an unexpected bonus for women perhaps?) :)
Out of all of it though I cannot get over the improvement in my feet. I wore a low heel all day around the office when only the previous week I'd had to take them off after only minutes because the pain(s) were just so sharp and horrible.
I don't have to make a dash for my 'health shoes' straight from the shower anymore in fact I can walk around at home without any shoes quite comfortably now.
Had a mad dash around town today, walked around three hours and was ok. One foot still plays up after a 'tour de force' but it's bearable now and the one that used to be the worst is absolutely fine.
Walking around the supermarket earlier in week I automatically headed for the painkiller section and then realised I didn't need any because nothing was hurting me which is brilliant and is already saving me money.
I'm slowly regaining a sizeable chunk of my life - this whole foot issue didn't mean I was disabled and not doing things but the pain was always there in the background plus the nagging worry of 'WHAT is this?' The pita of having to buy and only wear my 'special' shoes (which, frankly are not made for winter weather either) the cost and effect of constantly taking over the counter painkillers etc.
Being a natural 'coper' I had pushed it to the back of my mind as one of those things I would just have to put up with, forever more than likely and hadn't realised just how much it was effecting me, really.
I'm delighted and baffled in equal measures - still can't understand how something that kills bacteria and pathogens etc in the body can heal something like my feet when the pain had always felt like a bone pain (like something was broken almost or at least very badly sprained)
Can't wait to see what other improvements MMS cares to bring me and it's all thanks to this Forum so a big thank you to you all! :D
WELL WELL !!!!
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!!!!!!!!
Brilliant, thanks for posting..... I'm SURE you will be totally cured in no time :)
21_12_2012
12-02-2012, 10:42 AM
Im glad its helping you.. IM SORRY YOU HAD A LITTLE BAD REACTION TO IT.. I guess thats why they say TAKE IT VERY SLOW!!
I might take this myself but i dont wanna have bad reaction,etc to it!!
Did you start by taking 1 drop per day?? (Just put the drop on a spoon and consuming it?)
How exactly do ya take it??
1 drop MMS mixed with 5 drops of citric acid, leave for 3 minutes together in a glass, then add either water or 100% pure (no additives/ascorbic acid) apple juice, then drink immediately.
If curing a flu/cold/virus, 1 drop per hour for 1 or 2 days will suffice.
This method can also be used for a 'general detox' although i do prefer the 'hardcore method' for general detoxing:-
1 drop per day, 1 drop per night, increasing by 1 drop per day, (up to 40-50 drops per day after a couple of months of increasing) up to maybe 10 - 15 drops 3 times per day max then stopping.
I don't know if it is necessary to reach 40-50 drops per day as i did. It was Jim Humble's original 3 month protocol that i followed (i was curing attention deficit so i went all the way)
As Humble says, work slowly increasing the dosage, if you feel nauseous, cut back a drop and carry on. Do what your body tells you.
21_12_2012
12-02-2012, 11:04 AM
Very strange..............
The MMS haters seemed to have disappeared...........
Not heard anything from any of them in soooooooo long..........
Where are you all ?????
We miss you !!!!!
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Come back soon !!!!
We want to help you too !!!
wonderfullife
12-02-2012, 07:14 PM
Just thought I'd come and post an update on my MMS experience so far.
Day one of taking it it killed a toothache (one of those low level but ever present types) and cleared a 'frog' from the back of my throat which had been there for a couple of weeks.
Day's two and three I noticed that both of my feet were feeling much better which far less pain than I've had in about 5 years!
Day four I felt like absolute death, no energy whatsoever, feeling sick, disoriented, two migraines in the space of two days and just bleh all round. In fact I felt so bad I almost convinced myself MMS was poisoning me and I was imagining the healing.
All of the negative feelings turned out to be a particulary vicious period - what an idiot! :o
Mind you, in my defence, I had none of my usual symptoms of that time of the month so it took me by complete surprise (an unexpected bonus for women perhaps?) :)
Out of all of it though I cannot get over the improvement in my feet. I wore a low heel all day around the office when only the previous week I'd had to take them off after only minutes because the pain(s) were just so sharp and horrible.
I don't have to make a dash for my 'health shoes' straight from the shower anymore in fact I can walk around at home without any shoes quite comfortably now.
Had a mad dash around town today, walked around three hours and was ok. One foot still plays up after a 'tour de force' but it's bearable now and the one that used to be the worst is absolutely fine.
Walking around the supermarket earlier in week I automatically headed for the painkiller section and then realised I didn't need any because nothing was hurting me which is brilliant and is already saving me money.
I'm slowly regaining a sizeable chunk of my life - this whole foot issue didn't mean I was disabled and not doing things but the pain was always there in the background plus the nagging worry of 'WHAT is this?' The pita of having to buy and only wear my 'special' shoes (which, frankly are not made for winter weather either) the cost and effect of constantly taking over the counter painkillers etc.
Being a natural 'coper' I had pushed it to the back of my mind as one of those things I would just have to put up with, forever more than likely and hadn't realised just how much it was effecting me, really.
I'm delighted and baffled in equal measures - still can't understand how something that kills bacteria and pathogens etc in the body can heal something like my feet when the pain had always felt like a bone pain (like something was broken almost or at least very badly sprained)
Can't wait to see what other improvements MMS cares to bring me and it's all thanks to this Forum so a big thank you to you all! :D
It is amazing how MMS does work.
Yes you may have some days where you feel low or un well that i see as whatever it is that is wrong with us being killed off.
I find i do get low days but they don't last long and i recover fast.
For me the mms has a lot of work to do and apparently it can take a year for full recovery from chronic Lyme.
I just have to be patient, but hey if i had to take antibiotics it would cost me £700 a month and i would have to take antibiotics for probably 5 years or more. So I feel MMS is a much better and cheaper option and it works!
Antibiotics don't always work with chronic Lyme
dude111
13-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Very strange..............
The MMS haters seemed to have disappeared...........
Not heard anything from any of them in soooooooo long..........
Where are you all ?????They must all realise now HOW GOOD MMS IS!!
elpressiedente
13-02-2012, 01:18 AM
as a Cherokee medicine man with technology from the stars I am consulted by lots of family friends and neighbors...
just last week a young lady come to my farm with a complaint... 24 hours after having 'natural' sex with her new boyfriend she came down with thrush or burning of the uthera/vagina. Her boy friend constantly complained of a sore throat and a itchy 'knob' prior to their getting together.
I gave her and him some mms and sent them on their way telling them to abstain for 2 weeks. (haha)
the lady began taking 20 drops 3 times a day in pure (rain) water 1 hour after eating. by the second day her very painful sensations and constant urgency to urinate were almost gone and she upped it to 50 drops 3 times a day and her b/f stayed at 20 drops 3 times a day. So 7 days later they both had no more symptoms of any kind anywhere and had natural sex 2 days ago and neither have any symptoms today....
I could give many more testimonials of this repeated in different variations. The bottom line is cervical/prostrate cancers and thrush/candida are intimately related..
And this MMS or Oxyrich as its marketed here in OZ is better than anything any Govt licensed frankendoctor has to inflict on their guinea pigs.
dude111
13-02-2012, 03:45 AM
w0w she went right into it huh? (20 drops & 3 times a day??)
Wow,god bless her..... She wanted to be cured and didnt care if she had reactions to it.... (WHICH PAID OFF FOR HER)
Thank you for this story!!
elpressiedente
13-02-2012, 04:53 AM
as I explained to them the side effects (nausea, bloating, possible diarrhea) werent bad just discomforting... they decided the possibility of side effects was worth the getting rid of the discomfort she was experiencing sooner... so typical of many patients...... some is good so more must be better. (I think it was the prospect of waiting 2 weeks before sex verses 1 week at the higher rate was the deciding factor)
21_12_2012
13-02-2012, 10:23 AM
as a Cherokee medicine man with technology from the stars I am consulted by lots of family friends and neighbors...
just last week a young lady come to my farm with a complaint... 24 hours after having 'natural' sex with her new boyfriend she came down with thrush or burning of the uthera/vagina. Her boy friend constantly complained of a sore throat and a itchy 'knob' prior to their getting together.
I gave her and him some mms and sent them on their way telling them to abstain for 2 weeks. (haha)
the lady began taking 20 drops 3 times a day in pure (rain) water 1 hour after eating. by the second day her very painful sensations and constant urgency to urinate were almost gone and she upped it to 50 drops 3 times a day and her b/f stayed at 20 drops 3 times a day. So 7 days later they both had no more symptoms of any kind anywhere and had natural sex 2 days ago and neither have any symptoms today....
I could give many more testimonials of this repeated in different variations. The bottom line is cervical/prostrate cancers and thrush/candida are intimately related..
And this MMS or Oxyrich as its marketed here in OZ is better than anything any Govt licensed frankendoctor has to inflict on their guinea pigs.
Brilliant !!!
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!
Thanks for posting !! :D:D:D
sephera
13-02-2012, 12:52 PM
as I explained to them the side effects (nausea, bloating, possible diarrhea) werent bad just discomforting... they decided the possibility of side effects was worth the getting rid of the discomfort she was experiencing sooner... so typical of many patients...... some is good so more must be better. (I think it was the prospect of waiting 2 weeks before sex verses 1 week at the higher rate was the deciding factor)
Hi can you give me a procedure to follow for this chronic fatigue and bugs. I just can stand the taste after even 3 drops. I'd like to cure it in the shortest time. Thanks.
21_12_2012
13-02-2012, 01:36 PM
They must all realise now HOW GOOD MMS IS!!
Let's hope so :)
Hi can you give me a procedure to follow for this chronic fatigue and bugs. I just can stand the taste after even 3 drops. I'd like to cure it in the shortest time. Thanks.
I'd go with 1 drop per hour for a week or two first, then think about increasing.
domathy
13-02-2012, 08:46 PM
MMS Europe have been illegally shut down by trading standards and have had to relocate abroad. I would advise buying at least a jumbo bottle and keeping in stock.
justawakening
13-02-2012, 09:47 PM
MMS Europe have been illegally shut down by trading standards and have had to relocate abroad. I would advise buying at least a jumbo bottle and keeping in stock.
Yikes! Just had a look on their site after that news and found this:
"In the beginning of 2012 new rules demand that certain text can't be used anymore on this site. therefore you encounter this: ----text removed---- a lot. We regret this but feel that our hands are tied. This means that ordering mms is still possible but not as simple as it was before.
So we came up with an alternative way Mail to rs-support at hetnet.nl and you recieve instructions"
It's getting a bit cloak and dagger now isn't it - glad they're finding ways around things, wonder for how long though.
Better get some stock in....
Only came on to say you have no idea how much I bless you all as I purposefully stride through my day in normal shoes :D
Made up citric acid with de-ionised water for the first time tonight and hoo-wee, what a difference in the smell level from when I was using lemons and limes.
Within 30 seconds the kitchen smells like a particularly pungent version of the local swimming baths, definetely won't be able to mix up hourly doses at work with that!
Can't taste it though once I've mixed in some apple juice, thank god :)
For the poster who is struggling with the taste, try Pineapple juice - I had that to start with and couldn't smell or taste anything.
Still can't with the apple juice but I think it depends on what juice you're using with Apple. Had day doses with an Aldi Apple Juice which I keep at work and I could taste and smell the MMS through that.
Juice rambling now.... sorry :p
sephera
17-02-2012, 02:19 AM
The other day I though stuff it I will stomach the nausea and illness after taking MMS after reading some posts here. I decided to go 5 drops of MMS after being on 3 for a while. Felt really sick afterwards, dizzy and stuff. I just though bit my lip and take it usually I grab the nearest vitamin C. This time I just let it settle. I vomited half a cup of clear mucus, wonder what that was? I have been feeling better. I will go on the 6 next.
dude111
17-02-2012, 05:57 AM
Good,keep pressing on my friend :)
21_12_2012
17-02-2012, 10:13 AM
The other day I though stuff it I will stomach the nausea and illness after taking MMS after reading some posts here. I decided to go 5 drops of MMS after being on 3 for a while. Felt really sick afterwards, dizzy and stuff. I just though bit my lip and take it usually I grab the nearest vitamin C. This time I just let it settle. I vomited half a cup of clear mucus, wonder what that was? I have been feeling better. I will go on the 6 next.
It must be emphasized that you HAVE to go slow on MMS, I would cut back a drop if vomiting ever occurs (as Jim Humble advises), and only increase again when the nausea has gone away.
sephera
17-02-2012, 11:01 AM
It must be emphasized that you HAVE to go slow on MMS, I would cut back a drop if vomiting ever occurs (as Jim Humble advises), and only increase again when the nausea has gone away.
Yes but after I vomited, I was able to stay on 5 drops, seems like I was making alot of progress. I was getting stuck on 3 drops an my symptoms wasn't improving on 5 they are improving faster.
21_12_2012
17-02-2012, 11:27 AM
Yes but after I vomited, I was able to stay on 5 drops, seems like I was making alot of progress. I was getting stuck on 3 drops an my symptoms wasn't improving on 5 they are improving faster.
aah ok.
Another option would be to start having it hourly, but 1 drop per hour.
When I was doing my 3 month detox I varied it sometimes from the morning/evening routine to the hourly routine for a day maybe, then revert back.
I don't know if you take Lugol's Iodine or not (or if your iodine levels are 'normal' or not) but taking it helped me tremendously.
Taking iodine alone can solve many problems in a person's health just by regulating the thyroid gland (everyone is apparently lacking in iodine)
sephera
17-02-2012, 12:21 PM
I think it's easily for me to do 5 drops I don't think I can hack 1 drop per hour. Firstly it's more effort to make and harder to swallow.
I'm doing 5 drops 2 to 3 times a day depending on how I feel.
justawakening
17-02-2012, 06:45 PM
Agree that the hourly protocol can feel a bit laborious at times.
Then again I quite like it at the same time - feel like some minor alchemist mixing up my 'potion' (yes, I'm quite sad :))
Just realised that I've had the grand total of 1 painkiller so far this week - down from at least 4 a day (paracetamol/ibuprofen combo) - absolutely amazing for me!
Plus, as an added benefit, since I'm taking the MMS hourly and can't always get it all done during working hours I carry on in the evening at home.
Because I don't want to interfere in the MMS with alcohol I've stopped my nightly wine drinking as well and I don't even miss it (miracle for me!)
I just feel so well at the moment, all that time being in pain, tired, aches etc had made me forget that that is not a natural state at all.
Hoping that I will now start to expect to feel well every day with illness being the exception rather than the norm.
Miracle Solution indeed!
sephera
19-02-2012, 11:57 AM
I'm on 5 drops without any problems now. I will go on to 6 tomorrow. Feeling pretty good now. I'm no longer getting that 4pm crash. I must have had some dormant virus that MMS has probably gotten rid of.
dude111
19-02-2012, 11:48 PM
Excellent..... 5 drops and your ok??
Please keep us updated :)
21_12_2012
20-02-2012, 06:52 PM
^^^^^^^even more mms sucess !!!!!^^^^^^^^
domathy
20-02-2012, 07:03 PM
Yikes! Just had a look on their site after that news and found this:
"In the beginning of 2012 new rules demand that certain text can't be used anymore on this site. therefore you encounter this: ----text removed---- a lot. We regret this but feel that our hands are tied. This means that ordering mms is still possible but not as simple as it was before.
So we came up with an alternative way Mail to rs-support at hetnet.nl and you recieve instructions"
It's getting a bit cloak and dagger now isn't it - glad they're finding ways around things, wonder for how long though.
Better get some stock in....
Only came on to say you have no idea how much I bless you all as I purposefully stride through my day in normal shoes :D
Made up citric acid with de-ionised water for the first time tonight and hoo-wee, what a difference in the smell level from when I was using lemons and limes.
Within 30 seconds the kitchen smells like a particularly pungent version of the local swimming baths, definetely won't be able to mix up hourly doses at work with that!
Can't taste it though once I've mixed in some apple juice, thank god :)
For the poster who is struggling with the taste, try Pineapple juice - I had that to start with and couldn't smell or taste anything.
Still can't with the apple juice but I think it depends on what juice you're using with Apple. Had day doses with an Aldi Apple Juice which I keep at work and I could taste and smell the MMS through that.
Juice rambling now.... sorry :p
I just want to say it makes me very happy to hear of people like you who have successfully fixed your health yourself - well done :)
As you say, the novelty of the chlorine smell does wear thin and i am trying to summon the motivation to do another course of MMS - but its just the smell which is offputting.
sephera
27-02-2012, 05:28 AM
Anything that I can take with MMS, that I can buy at the organic health store that I don't have to juice up?
I don't have time to juice every day. All pineapple and apple juice has added vitamin C to it.
freeze
27-02-2012, 02:53 PM
aah ok.
Another option would be to start having it hourly, but 1 drop per hour.
When I was doing my 3 month detox I varied it sometimes from the morning/evening routine to the hourly routine for a day maybe, then revert back.
I don't know if you take Lugol's Iodine or not (or if your iodine levels are 'normal' or not) but taking it helped me tremendously.
Taking iodine alone can solve many problems in a person's health just by regulating the thyroid gland (everyone is apparently lacking in iodine)
Would anyone be able to provide a link where I can purchase this in Canada .... want to make sure its someone reputable as there are many sites selling this stuff.
Thanks
justawakening
27-02-2012, 06:50 PM
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know what's up with the Jim Humble.biz site?
Haven't been able to access it all day today and yesterday from different computers, just get the 'internet explorer can't display the web page' message.
Got a friend really interested in MMS and wanted to refer her to Jim's site and forum among other things.
Bit worried it's been shut down or something...
freeze
27-02-2012, 07:33 PM
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know what's up with the Jim Humble.biz site?
Haven't been able to access it all day today and yesterday from different computers, just get the 'internet explorer can't display the web page' message.
Got a friend really interested in MMS and wanted to refer her to Jim's site and forum among other things.
Bit worried it's been shut down or something...
its not working because I want to buy some of this stuff and cant go through his site thats why.... lol
justawakening
27-02-2012, 07:59 PM
its not working because I want to buy some of this stuff and cant go through his site thats why.... lol
Ah, so it's all your fault then :p
Just managed to access the forum so panic over for now - just need to decide how to present this info to my friend without rambling on for 14 pages and sounding like a total crackpot now :)
http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=listcat&Itemid=67
dude111
28-02-2012, 04:03 AM
It loads fine here!
http://jimhumble.biz
freeze
28-02-2012, 08:15 PM
It loads fine here!
http://jimhumble.biz
where is here as it still isnt working .....:confused:
scottishryan
28-02-2012, 09:34 PM
MMS Europe have been illegally shut down by trading standards and have had to relocate abroad. I would advise buying at least a jumbo bottle and keeping in stock.
Dom, as soon as I run out of my half bottle here, I shall be emailing you....My spider senses tell me you most likely make your own and have plenty :D Paypal you of course Hhehehehee :p
ex sheep
28-02-2012, 09:41 PM
Dom, as soon as I run out of my half bottle here, I shall be emailing you....My spider senses tell me you most likely make your own and have plenty :D Paypal you of course Hhehehehee :p
No need, just swim ower the water and get some fi me ;)
moments
29-02-2012, 01:21 PM
I bought 48 oz of MMS for $99.95 (12 sets containing 1 4oz bottle of Sodium Chlorite 28% (80% strength), 4oz 50% Citric Acid activator and one 1oz green bottle with mist sprayer each) from this ebay supplier http://stores.ebay.com/Pure-Water-Solutions?_rdc=1
They ship the product in dry form.
I have started taking 2 drops twice a day and will gradually build up my intake of MMS to a level comfortable to my body. Will keep you guys posted of my progress ( I am using it mainly for cleanse, I don't have any disease ).
dude111
29-02-2012, 02:49 PM
Thank goodness you dont have any moments!!
Im wondering if this would help tinnitus?? (And pysorsis) .... Most likely would,this is xcellent stuff!
scottishryan
29-02-2012, 03:53 PM
No need, just swim ower the water and get some fi me ;)
Ah ha!!! Thats better!! :D:D
Or I could just drive over the big bridge as the water is a bit cold :p:p I never knew you dabbled :)
wonderfullife
01-03-2012, 11:33 PM
I have heard that a private clinic in London is recommending MMS to patients especially those with Lyme. Yes a Doctor is recommending it so yeah it must be bad must'nt it?
Not sur how much they are charging for mms i do know the other treatments and blood testing can be a bit expensive.
21_12_2012
02-03-2012, 10:27 AM
I have heard that a private clinic in London is recommending MMS to patients especially those with Lyme. Yes a Doctor is recommending it so yeah it must be bad must'nt it?
Not sur how much they are charging for mms i do know the other treatments and blood testing can be a bit expensive.
WOW !!
Brilliant news....!!!!
Dare I say it again...?
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!!
wonderfullife
03-03-2012, 09:24 PM
WOW !!
Brilliant news....!!!!
Dare I say it again...?
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!!
Too right:)
sephera
09-03-2012, 12:41 AM
I have been using MMS topically, with DMSO. With fairly good results.
Jim Humble's website is down any idea on what is going on?
wonderfullife
09-03-2012, 12:59 AM
I have been using MMS topically, with DMSO. With fairly good results.
Jim Humble's website is down any idea on what is going on?
he's probably been hacked again ho hum
You can try his facebook page
wonderfullife
09-03-2012, 01:03 AM
apparently his site is either overloaded or down for maintance it is only temporary.
wonderfullife
10-03-2012, 08:48 PM
Good news jim's site is back up
21_12_2012
16-03-2012, 09:34 PM
Dr. John Humiston on MMS - Master Mineral Solution - Chlorine Dioxide - YouTube
21_12_2012
17-03-2012, 12:40 AM
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 1/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 2/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 3/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 4/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 5/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 6/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 7/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 8/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 9/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 10/11.wmv - YouTube
Understanding MMS - Conversations with Jim Humble part 11/11.wmv - YouTube
21_12_2012
17-03-2012, 09:36 AM
Straight Talk on MMS Guest: Andreas Kalcker ( Chlorine Dioxide ) - YouTube
21_12_2012
17-03-2012, 11:36 AM
MMS Cure for HIV/AIDS - YouTube
montmorency
17-03-2012, 05:30 PM
Why is it called a "mineral supplement" when chlorine and oxygen are not minerals, or not as I understand the meaning of the word?
Or does it have other things added?
21_12_2012
17-03-2012, 07:50 PM
Why is it called a "mineral supplement" when chlorine and oxygen are not minerals, or not as I understand the meaning of the word?
Or does it have other things added?
It's nothing to do with chlorine at all.
If you'd watched just a minute or 2 of the above videos you'd soon see that MMS is made by mixing Sodium Chlorite (NOT Chloride....Chlorite) solution (28% strength) with a 10% Citric Acid solution, creating Chlorine Dioxide.
Nothing else is added. (except the water to drink it in when mixed/activated)
In the case of MMS2, Calcium Hypochlorite is used, producing Hypochlorous Acid, a mimic of what our own body's immune system produces.
montmorency
18-03-2012, 12:06 AM
It's nothing to do with chlorine at all.
I'll come back to that if I may.
If you'd watched just a minute or 2 of the above videos you'd soon see that MMS is made by mixing Sodium Chlorite (NOT Chloride....Chlorite) solution (28% strength) with a 10% Citric Acid solution, creating Chlorine Dioxide.
I have now watched all the videos you posted. Pretty fascinating stuff.
Actually my hearing isn't so good, and I kept hearing sodium chlorite as sodium chloride (although I wondered when someone (Andreas?) said it was NaClO2). Thanks for clearing that up.
I must admit, I misunderstood at first (even after watching quite a lot of the videos), and I initially thought the first lot of drops were actually of chlorine dioxide itself, but I realised later the chlorine dioxide is only produced once you add the citric acid (and chlorine and oxygen are both gases, so I guess chlorine dioxide is also a gas, albeit soluble in liquids, like most gases).
You said: "It's nothing to do with chlorine at all."
Er....Jim was talking about chlorine and chlorine dioxide all the way through. Chlorine is an element, as is oxygen, and chlorine dioxide is a compound of those two elements.
From Wikipedia: "Chlorine ( /ˈklɔəriːn/ klohr-een; from Ancient Greek: χλωρóς khlôros "pale green") is the chemical element with atomic number 17 and symbol Cl. It is the second lightest halogen, found in the periodic table in group 17. The element forms diatomic molecules under standard conditions, called dichlorine. It has the highest electron affinity and the third highest electronegativity of all the elements; for this reason, chlorine is a strong oxidizing agent."
....and that last phrase is exactly what Jim said. So with great respect, I think it does have to do with chlorine rather more than nothing at all.
Nothing else is added. (except the water to drink it in when mixed/activated)
In the case of MMS2, Calcium Hypochlorite is used, producing Hypochlorous Acid, a mimic of what our own body's immune system produces.
Yes, thanks. I saw the last video that talks about MMS2.
As I say, fascinating stuff.
It's interesting that there are certain parallels here between this and some of Ray Peat's work. Peat is very strong on salt, NaCL, and on carbon dioxide, CO2, and also stresses the importance of getting rid of endotoxins. I wonder whether, if your body is well supplied with salt and CO2, at least indirectly that might lead to the production of chlorine dioxide, and maybe even hypochlorous acid. (He's very big on calcium as well). But maybe not in large amounts so the results aren't so dramatic.
One of the things that Jim said that impressed me was to stress that MMS was not a source of nutrients, and it might well increase the body's need for nutrients as the pathogens began to be killed off, and (as it were) the body moved up a gear. This has parallels with what Peat says if you improve someone's thyroid function (e.g. by hormone supplements) and therefore speed up the metabolism, it might well increase the body's need for nutrients and this might well show up as a nutrient "deficiency". However, it's not that the hormones caused the deficiency, the body was already deficient; in fact this deficiency might well be one reason why the metabolism slowed down in the first place. (Coincidentally, Peat also lived and worked in Mexico at one time).
I had in any case been slightly worried that some people might see that because MMS seems to be a magic bullet that can kill any ill, they can cease to worry so much about the nutritional side of their health. That would be a mistake I think, and IMHO, good nutrition is always important.
Thanks for posting the videos
montmorency
18-03-2012, 12:26 AM
Im wondering if this would help tinnitus??
Got to be worth a try, hasn't it, especially if it's recent onset tinnitus?
In my case, the tinnitus is very long established, and I wouldn't be personally optimistic, but I might well take this stuff for other reasons, and if the tinnitus is even slightly improved that can only be a bonus.
The problem with tinnitus is that it seems it can have many causes, and it's still not very well understood. I also have hearing loss and in my case it's almost certainly related to the tinnitus, so for MMS to help, it would also have to help with the hearing loss (another bonus if it happens), which I think would have to involve regrowing some of the lost hair cells. Theoretically, I think this is not possible, but who knows? Lots of things seem to be possible with MMS.
21_12_2012
18-03-2012, 10:54 AM
I'll come back to that if I may.
I have now watched all the videos you posted. Pretty fascinating stuff.
Actually my hearing isn't so good, and I kept hearing sodium chlorite as sodium chloride (although I wondered when someone (Andreas?) said it was NaClO2). Thanks for clearing that up.
I must admit, I misunderstood at first (even after watching quite a lot of the videos), and I initially thought the first lot of drops were actually of chlorine dioxide itself, but I realised later the chlorine dioxide is only produced once you add the citric acid (and chlorine and oxygen are both gases, so I guess chlorine dioxide is also a gas, albeit soluble in liquids, like most gases).
You said: "It's nothing to do with chlorine at all."
Er....Jim was talking about chlorine and chlorine dioxide all the way through. Chlorine is an element, as is oxygen, and chlorine dioxide is a compound of those two elements.
From Wikipedia: "Chlorine ( /ˈklɔəriːn/ klohr-een; from Ancient Greek: χλωρóς khlôros "pale green") is the chemical element with atomic number 17 and symbol Cl. It is the second lightest halogen, found in the periodic table in group 17. The element forms diatomic molecules under standard conditions, called dichlorine. It has the highest electron affinity and the third highest electronegativity of all the elements; for this reason, chlorine is a strong oxidizing agent."
....and that last phrase is exactly what Jim said. So with great respect, I think it does have to do with chlorine rather more than nothing at all.
Yes, thanks. I saw the last video that talks about MMS2.
As I say, fascinating stuff.
It's interesting that there are certain parallels here between this and some of Ray Peat's work. Peat is very strong on salt, NaCL, and on carbon dioxide, CO2, and also stresses the importance of getting rid of endotoxins. I wonder whether, if your body is well supplied with salt and CO2, at least indirectly that might lead to the production of chlorine dioxide, and maybe even hypochlorous acid. (He's very big on calcium as well). But maybe not in large amounts so the results aren't so dramatic.
One of the things that Jim said that impressed me was to stress that MMS was not a source of nutrients, and it might well increase the body's need for nutrients as the pathogens began to be killed off, and (as it were) the body moved up a gear. This has parallels with what Peat says if you improve someone's thyroid function (e.g. by hormone supplements) and therefore speed up the metabolism, it might well increase the body's need for nutrients and this might well show up as a nutrient "deficiency". However, it's not that the hormones caused the deficiency, the body was already deficient; in fact this deficiency might well be one reason why the metabolism slowed down in the first place. (Coincidentally, Peat also lived and worked in Mexico at one time).
I had in any case been slightly worried that some people might see that because MMS seems to be a magic bullet that can kill any ill, they can cease to worry so much about the nutritional side of their health. That would be a mistake I think, and IMHO, good nutrition is always important.
Thanks for posting the videos
No problem, glad you understand it better now.
The reason I say it is nothing to do with chlorine, is because chlorine dioxide and chlorine are as different as chalk and cheese. People confuse the 2, and then go and research what chlorine does to the body, and get the TOTAL wrong idea about MMS.
It puts people off trying it, just the mention of the word chlorine.
"it's bleach....it's poison....he's a snake oil salesman" .....blah blah... then they go and drink chlorine-infested tap water with all manner of other nasties in and don't bat an eyelid.
The world is officially mental.
wonderfullife
18-03-2012, 02:59 PM
Got to be worth a try, hasn't it, especially if it's recent onset tinnitus?
In my case, the tinnitus is very long established, and I wouldn't be personally optimistic, but I might well take this stuff for other reasons, and if the tinnitus is even slightly improved that can only be a bonus.
The problem with tinnitus is that it seems it can have many causes, and it's still not very well understood. I also have hearing loss and in my case it's almost certainly related to the tinnitus, so for MMS to help, it would also have to help with the hearing loss (another bonus if it happens), which I think would have to involve regrowing some of the lost hair cells. Theoretically, I think this is not possible, but who knows? Lots of things seem to be possible with MMS.
Since I have been taking MMS I have noticed new hairs growing along my scalp line my hair is getting stronger and thicker. not sure if mms helps baldness. I was hopeing it would help my grey hairs I have noticed no new grey hairs for me and all my hair has better colour.
With regards to tinnitus well i get ringing in my ears and a sort of wooshing but that is a lyme symptom it has got better for me now and ringing and wooshing not as bad i have been on mms for 9 months.
With mms anything is possiable just give it time.
21_12_2012
18-03-2012, 03:20 PM
Since I have been taking MMS I have noticed new hairs growing along my scalp line my hair is getting stronger and thicker. not sure if mms helps baldness. I was hopeing it would help my grey hairs I have noticed no new grey hairs for me and all my hair has better colour.
With regards to tinnitus well i get ringing in my ears and a sort of wooshing but that is a lyme symptom it has got better for me now and ringing and wooshing not as bad i have been on mms for 9 months.
With mms anything is possiable just give it time.
Brilliant !!
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!!!!
wonderfullife
18-03-2012, 10:50 PM
This is a very intresting read someone has used mms for their lyme.
"When we had a discussion of the possibility of using MMS instead of Samento he called his physician to ask his doctor what he thought of the idea. His physician looked into MMS and found it to be the same chemical that he uses to treat Lyme via IV application, except in the IV application it remains sodium chlorite and is not activated by an acid solution. He had not yet heard of the oral applications of sodium chlorite and he decided after reading information on it that it probably would work just as well as the samento/colloidal silver in conjunction with the enzyme therapy. He told my friend to go ahead and try it. By the time this recommendation was made my friend had been on the samento/colloidal silver for about one week. He did the last few days of treatment with MMS and enzymes, although the herx phase of his treatment had already passed so it was difficult to assess what happened with the MMS.
Many many people in the Lyme community have used or are using MMS to control their Lyme disease and it is effective but I have not heard that anyone has reported a cure using MMS. Perhaps the missing link is the use of the enzyme protocol with the MMS."
Read more here:
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20503
freeze
21-03-2012, 12:58 PM
My mms finally came today time to give it a try :)
wonderfullife
22-03-2012, 09:28 PM
My mms finally came today time to give it a try :)
Great!
Start small one drop then increase depends on what you are using it for.
wonderfullife
23-03-2012, 01:00 AM
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20503
Intresting forum and this page i have posted a person has used mms and collidal silver for their lyme worth a read
dude111
23-03-2012, 05:03 AM
Start small one drop then increase depends on what you are using it for.Yes good luck with it :):)
I wonder if after 1 drop you would notice anything??
montmorency
23-03-2012, 10:08 AM
No problem, glad you understand it better now.
The reason I say it is nothing to do with chlorine, is because chlorine dioxide and chlorine are as different as chalk and cheese. People confuse the 2, and then go and research what chlorine does to the body, and get the TOTAL wrong idea about MMS.
It puts people off trying it, just the mention of the word chlorine.
"it's bleach....it's poison....he's a snake oil salesman" .....blah blah... then they go and drink chlorine-infested tap water with all manner of other nasties in and don't bat an eyelid.
The world is officially mental.
Yes, since posting my question I watched some more videos and did some more reading around including on the interesting forum at the "Genesis II" website, and I understand why MMS supporters are a bit sensitive to use of the word "chlorine" on its own.
I haven't done chemistry formally for about forty years I would say, but I do remember some of the basics, and there is a difference between chlorine the element that appears in the periodic table, and chlorine the gas, which is actually two atoms of the element chlorine joined in a covalent bond, with molecular formula Cl2. (In a similar manner, Oxygen the element is not the same as Oxygen the gas, which is 2 atoms of elemental oxygen in a covalent bond with the molecular formula O2). It is "chlorine gas", formula Cl2, which is the nasty stuff.
In everyday language, people use the word "chlorine" for both; hence the confusion (and in my original question, I was referring to the element and not the gas). My old chemistry teachers would have usually used the term "chlorine gas" to distinguish them, and that's what I would also probably use.
The other source of confusion is the smell that gets released on activation of the ClO2, which some people think is CL2, the gas, but is just ClO2 "gassing off" (coming out of solution).
21_12_2012
23-03-2012, 12:55 PM
Yes, since posting my question I watched some more videos and did some more reading around including on the interesting forum at the "Genesis II" website, and I understand why MMS supporters are a bit sensitive to use of the word "chlorine" on its own.
I haven't done chemistry formally for about forty years I would say, but I do remember some of the basics, and there is a difference between chlorine the element that appears in the periodic table, and chlorine the gas, which is actually two atoms of the element chlorine joined in a covalent bond, with molecular formula Cl2. (In a similar manner, Oxygen the element is not the same as Oxygen the gas, which is 2 atoms of elemental oxygen in a covalent bond with the molecular formula O2). It is "chlorine gas", formula Cl2, which is the nasty stuff.
In everyday language, people use the word "chlorine" for both; hence the confusion (and in my original question, I was referring to the element and not the gas). My old chemistry teachers would have usually used the term "chlorine gas" to distinguish them, and that's what I would also probably use.
The other source of confusion is the smell that gets released on activation of the ClO2, which some people think is CL2, the gas, but is just ClO2 "gassing off" (coming out of solution).
You are quite correct indeed !
I never did chemistry at school, so had to learn 'the basics' myself before indulging in the MMS world a couple of years ago.
It does smell of chlorine when activated with the citrus solution, and the taste leaves a lot to be desired, but once you get past that, you're winning.
Well done for doing your own research, many come to this forum expecting the truth to be 'laid out neatly before them' without doing any work.
My first impressions of Jim Humble (albeit from watching him on video) is the same impression i still have of him:-
A selfless, genuine, pure spirit, here to heal people in MASSIVE numbers by passing on his information, and I have nothing but complete respect and love for this amazing man.
21_12_2012
24-03-2012, 10:59 AM
My mms finally came today time to give it a try :)
Excellent !
Keep us posted on your future MMS SUCCESS !!
wonderfullife
24-03-2012, 08:01 PM
Yes good luck with it :):)
I wonder if after 1 drop you would notice anything??
Some do some don't I started to notice things when i got to 4 drops.
wonderfullife
24-03-2012, 08:04 PM
anyone noticed some mms suppliers seem of been hacked some can't buy their mms anyone else know what is going on?
21_12_2012
30-03-2012, 02:06 PM
Bump !
wonderfullife
01-04-2012, 10:05 PM
Bump
thelucifer
02-04-2012, 12:25 AM
No problem, glad you understand it better now.
The reason I say it is nothing to do with chlorine, is because chlorine dioxide and chlorine are as different as chalk and cheese. People confuse the 2, and then go and research what chlorine does to the body, and get the TOTAL wrong idea about MMS.
It puts people off trying it, just the mention of the word chlorine.
"it's bleach....it's poison....he's a snake oil salesman" .....blah blah... then they go and drink chlorine-infested tap water with all manner of other nasties in and don't bat an eyelid.
The world is officially mental.
They say its bleach because they dont know/understand the difference between an atom and a compound.
Its that simple.
The chlorine in ClO2 (chlorine dioxide) is a single atom.
Chlorine aka bleach, is a compound.
Simple truth. :);)
montmorency
03-04-2012, 11:12 PM
They say its bleach because they dont know/understand the difference between an atom and a compound.
Its that simple.
The chlorine in ClO2 (chlorine dioxide) is a single atom.
Chlorine aka bleach, is a compound.
Simple truth. :);)
I don't know which country you come from, but in England, we don't usually refer to bleach as "Chlorine", although probably most people are aware that it is related to chlorine even if they don't know the chemistry.
We must be careful not to oversimplify.
From wikipedia, I see that common bleach is sodium hypochlorite, formula: NaClO, which means that each molecule has one atom of sodium, one atom of chlorine, and one atom of oxygen, and because it contains more than one element, it is a compound.
chlorine dioxide, formula ClO2 is also a compound, containing one atom of chlorine, and two atoms of oxygen.
MMS1 is sodium chlorite, formula NaClO2, i.e. each molecule contains one atom of sodium, one atom of chlorine, and 2 atoms of oxygen, and is of course a compound.
When MMS is added to a suitable activator, it is converted to ClO2, chlorine dioxide, which is the activated substance used in healing applications. This is also a compound.
There is some discussion of the chemistry here:
http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=2&id=1851&Itemid=66
which I admit starts to go over my head. My knowledge of chemistry is pretty basic, I don't mind saying.
21_12_2012
04-04-2012, 10:44 AM
They say its bleach because they dont know/understand the difference between an atom and a compound.
Its that simple.
The chlorine in ClO2 (chlorine dioxide) is a single atom.
Chlorine aka bleach, is a compound.
Simple truth. :);)
Thanks for that. :D (i'm no chemist !)
I don't know which country you come from, but in England, we don't usually refer to bleach as "Chlorine", although probably most people are aware that it is related to chlorine even if they don't know the chemistry.
We must be careful not to oversimplify.
From wikipedia, I see that common bleach is sodium hypochlorite, formula: NaClO, which means that each molecule has one atom of sodium, one atom of chlorine, and one atom of oxygen, and because it contains more than one element, it is a compound.
chlorine dioxide, formula ClO2 is also a compound, containing one atom of chlorine, and two atoms of oxygen.
MMS1 is sodium chlorite, formula NaClO2, i.e. each molecule contains one atom of sodium, one atom of chlorine, and 2 atoms of oxygen, and is of course a compound.
When MMS is added to a suitable activator, it is converted to ClO2, chlorine dioxide, which is the activated substance used in healing applications. This is also a compound.
There is some discussion of the chemistry here:
http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.p...1851&Itemid=66
which I admit starts to go over my head. My knowledge of chemistry is pretty basic, I don't mind saying.
And thanks for that !
wonderfullife
09-04-2012, 04:02 PM
Confesiones de una Representante de la Industria Farmacéutica - YouTube
English speaking with subtitles
wonderfullife
09-04-2012, 10:20 PM
I have had a problem with my mouth i think it is connected to the LYME anyway I used the tooth mouth protocol and sure enough it has cleared up:)
Before i knew about MMS i used to have this problem used to go to Doctor get prescibed somthing and it would take months to get better!.
My youngest has had a rash most of her little life and now i know it is a Lyme rash anyhow she has no rash now completly gone all thanks to mms!
The rash was starting to take over her hand.
Most at centre are doing well and it is so nice to see.
So all in all everything going well
dude111
10-04-2012, 07:07 AM
Good buddy,im glad your seeing good results :):)
21_12_2012
10-04-2012, 09:56 AM
I have had a problem with my mouth i think it is connected to the LYME anyway I used the tooth mouth protocol and sure enough it has cleared up:)
Before i knew about MMS i used to have this problem used to go to Doctor get prescibed somthing and it would take months to get better!.
My youngest has had a rash most of her little life and now i know it is a Lyme rash anyhow she has no rash now completly gone all thanks to mms!
The rash was starting to take over her hand.
Most at centre are doing well and it is so nice to see.
So all in all everything going well
Yeeeeey !!
EVEN MORE MMS SUCCESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21_12_2012
11-04-2012, 10:49 AM
BUMP !
CANCER, AIDS etc & MMS Miracle Mineral see JIMHUMBLELIVE channel - YouTube
:D:D
21_12_2012
14-04-2012, 10:42 AM
CDS - New Instructions (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) - YouTube