Miracle Mineral Supplement

[xpleet]

Is it really true that MMS only stays inside the body for 2 hours and then completly transforming into table salt?

Some 2-3 hours after taking a dose of about 5-6 drops I would start feeling malaise from my stomach, not so bad that I would throw up. This would last about 1-2 hours and has already happened 2 times, once hours after taking MMS on empty stomach and once some hours after full stomach.
If MMS would only stay 2 hours than this would have to be the table salt upsetting my stomach or could it be just a small system shock?


Also did I realize that I just burped and up came the smell of chlorine dioxide.

[manit]

Is it really true that MMS only stays inside the body for 2 hours and then completly transforming into table salt?

Some 2-3 hours after taking a dose of about 5-6 drops I would start feeling malaise from my stomach, not so bad that I would throw up. This would last about 1-2 hours and has already happened 2 times, once hours after taking MMS on empty stomach and once some hours after full stomach.
If MMS would only stay 2 hours than this would have to be the table salt upsetting my stomach or could it be just a small system shock?


Also did I realize that I just burped and up came the smell of chlorine dioxide.

yip ya rite m8 only for a few hours at most i did the same as well but i dont have that prob now i take it in my cup of tea no smell no taste till ya hit about 10 drops am on a 1:1 ratio so thats great even less smell and taste works for me:)

[xpleet]

yip ya rite m8 only for a few hours at most i did the same as well but i dont have that prob now i take it in my cup of tea no smell no taste till ya hit about 10 drops am on a 1:1 ratio so thats great even less smell and taste works for me:)

Yea tea is a great, I've just been wondering how people have come up with the idea of taking it just 1/1 instead of 1/5 or 1/2.5.

What are the different applications of those mixes?

[ex sheep]

Hi Ex sheep yip there is something bad wrong with me a virus thats a bad one i was on 15 drops 3 times a day before i had the runs apart from that nothing at all thats why i started going on a 1:1 ratio i had to see what would happen with a 20 drop 1:1 ratio i have had a bit of stomach ache and a bit of a headache thats it i will go back to 10 or 15 twice daily in my cup of tea works great no smell no taste the best ive tried yet and not moving of it:):D

Well from my heart I want you to kick ass and get it beat, and we want you to keep us all up to date how you are doing, I send all of my love to you, and the strongest vibes I can muster for you to get well.
And just be careful, listen to your body.

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[manit]

Well from my heart I want you to kick ass and get it beat, and we want you to keep us all up to date how you are doing, I send all of my love to you, and the strongest vibes I can muster for you to get well.
And just be careful, listen to your body.

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cheers ex sheep nice one tiz a real strange one i am a spiritual healer i heal lots of other people all over the place on face book and anywhere yet carnt get rid of this thing what a bummer another strange thing ive known about my gift for years and not done a thing about then i end up with hiv and then start healing people i think it was a kick start to get me to start healing people very strange i do listen to my body and after 3 years on the meds i woke up one morning and something said dont take them after trying to stop 3 times it the fear what keep ya taking them like if i dont take em i will die thats what they instill in you so ive been off the meds for just over a year now feel great skin nails great really good health well i think so i love my healing its the world to me i dont have mms every day i will blitz it for a few days and see what happens so far no change with my bloods cd4 250 but that goes up and down like a yo yo viral load through the roof but am not bothered coz i feel great the 1:1 ratio is i think not as harsh thats why i take it like that and it work more effectively from what people tell me on other forums it binds to the water or liquid and stay there locked in till ya drink it just made a stew and chucked 5 drops of mms in there :):D so far not had heartburn as well

[mojoarizona]

Been using MMS now for 3 days.
Following the protocol of building this up into larger doses over a number of days.

i.e.
1st day: 1 drop mms solution with 5 drops Citric Acid
2nd day: 2 drops "" """ "" 10 "" "" ""
3rd day: 3 drops "" """ "" 15 "" "" ""

First started kicking in after 24 hours. And went to the Toilet and some slight diarrhoea. Just my body being gently cleansed.
I feel more ''empty'' - not a ''hungry'' feel as such. And no Nausea at the moment.

This is thought to be a minor side effect of taking MMS.

My aim is to:
1. Flush out the Bacteria, Fungi and any other un-needed crap! lol
2. Rid several toe nails of Fungus.
3. Incidently Jim Humble the creator of MMS recommends that the first place you deal with is the Mouth. Hence, I want to see if I can banish Tooth Decay.

This is what he says in Part 2 of the E-book [part 1 is free as a download]
$12.95 as a download. Called: The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century

How to Use MMS For Personal Health:

MMS can change the health of your mouth in one week. The health of your mouth is the most important thing to first address with MMS, because the health of your mouth affects the health of your entire body. So when you begin to take MMS also make sure your treat your mouth. After seeing thousands of people getting better after taking MMS, the ones that do the best are the ones that make their mouth healthy.

Curing Diseases Chapter 10 Page12

MMS works fast.

Use 10 drops of MMS in a glass and add 50 drops of lemon, or lime juice, or 10% citric acid solution in the same glass. As usual swirl the mixture, wait 3 minutes and then add about ¼ glass of water. Use this solution to brush the teeth. You can use the same solution the brush your teeth and gums two or three times a day when you are first starting. Be sure to brush your gums. Use a new solution every morning. The MMS will brighten and strengthen the enamel on your teeth. What really happens is that the MMS kills the virus on the enamel that ordinarily does the damage

Abscessed teeth, infected gums, and pyorrhea: Expect the pain of an abscessed tooth to be overcome by the immune system in about four hours. Expect all infection and all pyorrhea to be gone in one week. Expect all loose teeth to be rock solid in two weeks. Expect a completely healthy mouth in less than three weeks.

Keep in mind that the MMS solution is the most powerful killer of pathogens known. Once the pyorrhea and infections are killed, the mouth can heal very quickly.

Finally you will need to use MMS only two or three times a week and actually you could even get away with brushing only two or three times a week. There are exceptions, of course. In the case of an abscessed tooth where the abscess is inside the tooth and the MMS cannot reach it through a hole or some other way, the MMS will not then handle the abscess. It will have to be pulled.

Also you need to get rid of all the metal [Mercury etc.] in your mouth. With metal in your mouth you are creating voltages and current that can be read on any volt meter. It’s ruining your health. I’ve seen people who regained their sight merely by replacing the metal in their mouth.

I have had the amalgamam fillings removed and it did help, but be sure a qualified professional does it with the proper equipment to detoxify and do a cleanse before and after removal.

Also, try oil pulling (ayurvedic remedy) for mouth or sinus issues, simply swish a pure oil like coconut oil or sesame oil first thing on waking, it pulls out the mucous toxins. do everyday or every other day, also makes teeth nice and white! and even realigns crooked teeth, It is true!

You wake up and put a tablespoon in the mouth, chomp, swish ,gurgle, etc and work it into a white foam and spit out. DO NOT SWALLOW! then finish by brushing teeth, tongue and gums with a mix of sea salt and baking soda. I mix up a canning jar of 1 third salt and 2 thirds baking soda and dip my wet toothbrush in, Cheap and non toxic, raised my kids with this instead of Crest, lol. No flouride for us, thanks:)

[mojoarizona]

ex sheep even thinking about it starts to make me feel yuk and having one drop makes me feel ill i think its the thought of me drinking the stuff thats all its a mind thing i think but the bath works well for me ten mins 15 pushing it then i am out and need a lie down just feel drained :)

Try soaking at least twenty minutes in an epsom salt bath. Cures muscle ache and fatigue, and is the best detoxifier, and cheap and easy! been doing it for years, there is no substitute :)

Put about 1 to 2 cups of Epsom in a nice hot bath, dissolve and soak. Recommended by my naturopathic doctor as a cure all and great detoxifier.

[onourwayto2012]

thanks mojo...... great stuff!.... going to work that into my routine ASAP!!!

[specialk85]

Yea tea is a great, I've just been wondering how people have come up with the idea of taking it just 1/1 instead of 1/5 or 1/2.5.

What are the different applications of those mixes?

thats what I want to know too.

[specialk85]

I take a bath once a week.

Is that all? do you not start to small after a few days? :)

[happyhouse]

Hello all

I can say that MMS is powerful stuff - it tastes fairly horrific at higher dosages, and actually quite tough to keep down, seriously!...

We use it now on our poultry farm to treat the drinking water of the chickens, and since its implementation, our sickness rate has gone right down, so this is pretty impressive.

I have used it for an acute case of parasites that wouldn't be moved with anything else - I suppose they didn't like the taste either, as they vacated in quick order.

I can say that the product has been out for quite some time, and it is interesting to note that still MMS has little dirt that has stuck, and with the sheer volumes of real life testimonials backing up this compound - it becomes more and more difficult to doubt its efigacy.

I was brought up to speed with how it works by spending time on a blog full of real life testimonials at http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/ and purchased mine at http://www.mmshealthy4life.com/

Hope this helps, and everyone should give it a go for a period to clean the system...

Kind regards...

[jolinemaria]

Hello all

I can say that MMS is powerful stuff - it tastes fairly horrific at higher dosages, and actually quite tough to keep down, seriously!...

We use it now on our poultry farm to treat the drinking water of the chickens, and since its implementation, our sickness rate has gone right down, so this is pretty impressive.

I have used it for an acute case of parasites that wouldn't be moved with anything else - I suppose they didn't like the taste either, as they vacated in quick order.

I can say that the product has been out for quite some time, and it is interesting to note that still MMS has little dirt that has stuck, and with the sheer volumes of real life testimonials backing up this compound - it becomes more and more difficult to doubt its efigacy.

I was brought up to speed with how it works by spending time on a blog full of real life testimonials at http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/ and purchased mine at http://www.mmshealthy4life.com/

Hope this helps, and everyone should give it a go for a period to clean the system...

Kind regards...

So, that's the secret....:):):)

[strengthofknowledge]

so whats the deal...does the miracle mineral work??? i was going to order some...

[cruise4]

Order some. Only be trying and anecdotes can we build a clear picture. I have had positive effects and that's as far as I'll go for now but as jolinemaria says there is little sticking to this and from perusing boards various doctors have tried 'hard' to find some dirt and they struggle too.

[cruise4]

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[onourwayto2012]

I'm trying his 66x3 method.......hmmmmm.....
anyhow it's 6 drops and then an hour later 6 more.... and 3x a day.... sounds better to me than 15 at once or whatever. Only 6 days into it so I'll update in a week or so

[runlikehell]

Very intresting stuff, im thinking of buying a bottle.

How long would one bottle last for? and would one bottle be enough?

And are the bottles shown in the links below ready for consumption (As i would like to avoid any mixing if possable)

What one do people, that have tryed it or are currently using it recommend?

(1)
Miracle Mineral Solution (Professional Grade)
http://www.mmsmiracle.com/originalhumble

Or

(2)
Starter Kit, With Citric Activator
http://www.mmshealthy4life.com/mms-products.html



If anyone is after a mobile hotplate for making MMS, Colloidal Silver


Colloidal Silver

Diden't some guy make that himself, which ended up turning his skin blue?

[cruise4]

"Didn't some guy make that himself, which ended up turning his skin blue?"

He turned blue it seems, but was drinking gallons of the stuff. IMO he wanted the fame of being smurflike. Nothing to worry about, but do your own research as always. It's nothing to do with making it yourself though, if that's what you mean. It's quite easy to make as a perusal of youtube will show. I want to make the highest quality product I can though.

You will have to mix the MMS with the Citric activator 3 minutes prior to consumption. It's only 1 drop from one bottle and 5 from another ie. easy. Those products you show are ready to go and will last 6 to 9 months approx. Hope that helps.

[21_12_2012]

I'm trying his 66x3 method.......hmmmmm.....
anyhow it's 6 drops and then an hour later 6 more.... and 3x a day.... sounds better to me than 15 at once or whatever. Only 6 days into it so I'll update in a week or so

I'm currently experimenting and doing roughly 4 drops every hour (to 5 drops of citric) every hour.

It works out roughly 50 drops a day, and a few in the night if i wake up.

It's feeling like a better way to do it to me, but the nausea has slightly
come back, but still yet i havent been sick since i started on MMS a few weeks back.

The shits have disappeared too, about a week ago or something.

I feel better than ever.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I'm still keeping an open mind about MMS until I feel sure that it works for myself.
I don't usually take any more than 5 drops drops a day.
Yesterday I took 2 lots of 5.....felt a cold coming on.

Feels a bit better this morning....I also have a rumbly tummy. :eek:

I don't think the cold is out of my system entirely (it may have been the sleep that helped my sore throat). I'll be able to make up my mind about whether the MMS woks later at some point.

[manit]

I'm currently experimenting and doing roughly 4 drops every hour (to 5 drops of citric) every hour.

It works out roughly 50 drops a day, and a few in the night if i wake up.

It's feeling like a better way to do it to me, but the nausea has slightly
come back, but still yet i havent been sick since i started on MMS a few weeks back.

The shits have disappeared too, about a week ago or something.

I feel better than ever.

hi 21 m8 i know ya rite m8 i think is a bit too much jst watch ya self m8 its also brought me out in a load of mouth ulcers very painful i only do a 1:1 ratio for 3 mins 4 drops mms 4 drops activator when and if i can i really carnt stomach any more than that even 1 drop more and thats it for me. and i am very bad puking the runs you name it i will have the lot not nice and to me if you have to go through that it aint worth it:):)so far tomato juice is ok i carnt taste it so far which is good the cup of tea i started to taste it and it made me puke up. just ordered another bag of the stuff shit havin a job keepin up with orders:eek:

[ed_macd]

http://miraclemineral.org/breakthrough.php

This stuff is a killer. I used it myself & was so sick it was unbelievable. There's no way I could take the full dosage as half of that made me vomit violently & it tastes so bad. I actually ended up in bed & after a few days ceasing use felt back to normal. I'm sticking to what is natural for a human being to ingest, not just what's natural!!!

[manit]

This stuff is a killer. I used it myself & was so sick it was unbelievable. There's no way I could take the full dosage as half of that made me vomit violently & it tastes so bad. I actually ended up in bed & after a few days ceasing use felt back to normal. I'm sticking to what is natural for a human being to ingest, not just what's natural!!!

i know what you mean m8 i was on 15 drops x2 a day on a 1:1 ratio at 3 mins now i carnt stomach the stuff i can only manage 4 drops on a 1:1 ratio at 3 mins even one more drop and i am puking my ring up and the runs etc ive tried the stuff in loads of things a cup of tea but tomato juice seams to be the best up till now 4 drops and no taste and smell so far:D

[ed_macd]

i know what you mean m8 i was on 15 drops x2 a day on a 1:1 ratio at 3 mins now i carnt stomach the stuff i can only manage 4 drops on a 1:1 ratio at 3 mins even one more drop and i am puking my ring up and the runs etc ive tried the stuff in loads of things a cup of tea but tomato juice seams to be the best up till now 4 drops and no taste and smell so far:D


Thing is, I wasn't even sick when I took it. It was more out of curoisty & to cleanse my system generally.

Another friend of mine who has ME tired it too. She drunk it in Blackcurrant juice & got up to 15 drops 3x per day. She did that for 3 weeks. No difference, no problem. Then She took it in just water - bam, hit her right away, puking up, crapping out. After 2 days it was too much for her & she felt worse then ever for week afterwards. So maybe the juice nutralized the cholrite.

I tried using Vit C to nullify the effects but that did nothing to lessen them. I just don't know as some people claim it has helped them greatly, but commonsense says, if it makes you worse, don't do it.

[21_12_2012]

From what i have learned and read about MMS:-

The way to go with it is to cut back the amount of MMS if vomiting occurs,
until the nausea has gone, or you're just 'on the edge' of vomiting
(feeling mild nausea...which is what i do if possible)

It depends how serious the illness/s are that the person wishes to treat.

If someone has, for example, a form of cancer or aids/hiv, in my opinion,
that patient would feel nausea and probably vomit more than someone else, for example,
who is basically healthy but wishing to treat something minor such as dermatitus or
something like a cold/flu etc. because the aids/hiv/cancer patient's body is in
a weaker state than the person treating themself for, for example, dermatitis.

When i first started on MMS i was feeling nausea from doing a 10 drop dose, but
now a few weeks later, i can take a few drops per hour every hour, and feel
less nausea than i did when i was only having 2 x 10 drops per day a few weeks
ago.

Same with the shits, they've now gone. I think persistance is the key.

I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.

[mojoarizona]

thanks mojo...... great stuff!.... going to work that into my routine ASAP!!!

You're welcome! Check out www.naturalnews.com for some good info on health, Mike Adams has some great FREE e-books you can download as well.

Chlorella is another must have detoxifier and I have been taking superfoods bee pollen and spirulina for years. Also, Honeygar, half cup raw apple cider vinegar, half cup raw LOCAL honey and half gallon pure water, refrigerate and drink several glasses a day. My kids love their honeygar and my son is a triathlete who swears by it, it keeps him from getting squirrelly and replaces electrolyte, it is a great whole body tonic that lubricates joints, muscles, organs, etc. And Jack LaLanne is on it, juicing is a must for good health. He is a wonderful example for us all :)

TO HEALTH!

[mojoarizona]

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I make my own colloidal silver, but did not know you can make your own MMS? How can I get the set up for that, Thanks!

[manit]

Thing is, I wasn't even sick when I took it. It was more out of curoisty & to cleanse my system generally.

Another friend of mine who has ME tired it too. She drunk it in Blackcurrant juice & got up to 15 drops 3x per day. She did that for 3 weeks. No difference, no problem. Then She took it in just water - bam, hit her right away, puking up, crapping out. After 2 days it was too much for her & she felt worse then ever for week afterwards. So maybe the juice nutralized the cholrite.

I tried using Vit C to nullify the effects but that did nothing to lessen them. I just don't know as some people claim it has helped them greatly, but commonsense says, if it makes you worse, don't do it.

when taking the stuff ya just got ta make sure 1 ya juice aint got any vitamin c in it and 2 you have not consumed any kind of drink with vitamin c or any multi vitamins tablets if you do its useless. within an hour or two thats the rules thats it i use a 1:1 ratio eg 4 drops mms 4 drops activator for 3 mins and put asda tomato juice in it so far no taste great:) :D if i knew i was fit and healthy i would only be taking 2 or 3 drops a week thats it the stuff is so damm powerful be very careful guys if you know you have a big probs still take it easy i used to be on 15 drops a day 3 times a day and now my body can only handle only 4 drops thats it even one more drop and i am really sick the runs the lot. and i am very ill i have areal bad ass virus that refuses to die but i aint givin up yet...........

[ex sheep]

when taking the stuff ya just got ta make sure 1 ya juice aint got any vitamin c in it and 2 you have not consumed any kind of drink with vitamin c or any multi vitamins tablets if you do its useless. within an hour or two thats the rules thats it i use a 1:1 ratio eg 4 drops mms 4 drops activator for 3 mins and put asda tomato juice in it so far no taste great:) :D if i knew i was fit and healthy i would only be taking 2 or 3 drops a week thats it the stuff is so damm powerful be very careful guys if you know you have a big probs still take it easy i used to be on 15 drops a day 3 times a day and now my body can only handle only 4 drops thats it even one more drop and i am really sick the runs the lot. and i am very ill i have areal bad ass virus that refuses to die but i aint givin up yet...........

I really am sending good vibes for you to beat this thing manit, but shouldn't you wait 10 mins when doing the 1/1 ratio.

[manit]

I really am sending good vibes for you to beat this thing manit, but shouldn't you wait 10 mins when doing the 1/1 ratio.

(cheers ex sheep thats nice to here) my body carnt stand that 10 mins is way to strong for me thats why i only do 3 mins tried it once bad for 3 days coming out both ends at the same time my body can only handle 4 drops now thats it 5 drops and i am sick as a dog both ends this stuff is deadly and as you know i am really sick but to be perfectly honest i was feeling great before i started taking mms now i feel shit cos of the being sick and the runs only my blood test will confirm if it working for me i know my vl is through the roof :):D:):):D

[coco]

Have broken up my MMS intake into little doses throughout the day instead of just one in the morning and one in the evening. VERY MUCH TOLERABLE. I do between 6-7 drops every 2-3 hours throughout the day. So, so much more tolerable.

[coco]

Onourwayto2012

What is your dose up to? Don't like to hear it makes you ill first thing in the morn. Back down the number of drops are give yourself a day or two break and pick up again. {{hugs}}

[thelucifer]

Have broken up my MMS intake into little doses throughout the day instead of just one in the morning and one in the evening. VERY MUCH TOLERABLE. I do between 6-7 drops every 2-3 hours throughout the day. So, so much more tolerable.

Yes, and, as with the double dose protocol, more effective.

Double blessing. :)

[xpleet]

Yes, and, as with the double dose protocol, more effective.

Double blessing. :)

Thank you for mentioning this and explaining earlier in this thread.

I have not heard about this in the videos about MMS on youtube, and I've almost seen them all, neither is it documented or mentioned on JimHumble.biz.

I will try this next!

MMS has already taken on half my allergy to natural foods.

[manit]

Thank you for mentioning this and explaining earlier in this thread.

I have not heard about this in the videos about MMS on youtube, and I've almost seen them all, neither is it documented or mentioned on JimHumble.biz.

I will try this next!

MMS has already taken on half my allergy to natural foods.

it just what people are experimenting with i use a 1:1 ratio of 4 drops mms and 4 drops activator for 3 mins apparently it more stronger any more than 4 drops or any longer than 3 mins and i am really bad puking up and the runs so i stick it something i know i can handle i was on 15 drops 3 times a day but it got to much for me my body could not stand it at all i was bad for 3 days on that dose just be careful this stuff is lethal so take with caution and listen to ya body just remember not to take any multivitamins tablets whatsoever that have any vitamin c in them and any juice that contains vitamin c other wise it will neutralize the mms out i take mine with asda tomato juice with a splash of Worcester sauce you carnt taste it really :):)

[thelucifer]

Thank you for mentioning this and explaining earlier in this thread.

I have not heard about this in the videos about MMS on youtube, and I've almost seen them all, neither is it documented or mentioned on JimHumble.biz.

I will try this next!

MMS has already taken on half my allergy to natural foods.


Jim does mention in the second book (and maybe elsewhere) that he thinks the double dose protocol "penetrates deeper".

The full double dose protocol is 3 double doses per day at 15 drops per dose, thats 90 drops per day.

Now thats getting serious.


I am trying this protocol now, today I am at 5 drops (30 drops total today).
Yesterday at 4 drops no nausea, no taste, easy as can be.

Easier and better, sounds good to me. ;)

I use Pomegranate juice.
Out of all the brands available around me (in Minneapolis), only one does not have vitamin c added.

[xpleet]

I use Pomegranate juice.
Out of all the brands available around me (in Minneapolis), only one does not have vitamin c added.

I've been wondering all along, what about natural Vitamin C content from organic "direct-juice"? There is just one brand I found that is basically not a 25% juice/75% sugar mix but 100% natural in it's content, look and taste.
I really wonder how that would work out, found no mention of MMS & direct-juices.

I can think of only one juice here in Germany that says added vitamin C on it.

I've also experimented with tea. 12 drops is not a problem, 20 starts getting ugly in smelling and tasting.

Even with taking just 3 times a day I find the timing of taking MMS and vitamin rich foods/drinks quite hard.

The full double dose protocol is 3 double doses per day at 15 drops per dose, thats 90 drops per day.

Are you a heavyweight champion?

[lostinstrangeworld]

I've been a bit ill today after taking 10 drops of mms earlier this morning as I felt a nasty cold coming on (even after taking 5 drops a day on other days).

I don't usually get any ill effects from the stuff but today I was in bed with stomach cramps. :eek:

I'm still skeptical about the stuff.

I've decided I'm not going to use it every day but will carry on experimenting with it if I feel a cold coming on, etc.

I don't want to take any risks with this stuff. We are not doctors. But I will experiment.

My advice is

Stay open minded.....but be careful.

[lostinstrangeworld]

By the way, I know you're not supposed to drink orange juice with the mms, but is it ok to drink it afterwards?

[thelucifer]

By the way, I know you're not supposed to drink orange juice with the mms, but is it ok to drink it afterwards? Wait for a couple hours at least.

Dont be afraid, be smart.

I find the larger doses like 10 and up are harder in the morning, next time split it up into two 5 drop doses an hour apart.

[margaretr]

I had good reason to think I had a long term candida overgrowth.
As soon as I started MMS at the initial one drop dose, I had nasty side effects.
I conclude that if there is a lot of anything to clear out you will get nasty effects from the start. So I have taken any increase very gently, and even laid off it for a day or two now and then. Side effects have lessened so I presume that my system is almost clear now.

If however there is next to nothing for it to act on, you will be capable of the large doses, because the die off effect will be less.

[21_12_2012]

I had good reason to think I had a long term candida overgrowth.
As soon as I started MMS at the initial one drop dose, I had nasty side effects.
I conclude that if there is a lot of anything to clear out you will get nasty effects from the start. So I have taken any increase very gently, and even laid off it for a day or two now and then. Side effects have lessened so I presume that my system is almost clear now.

If however there is next to nothing for it to act on, you will be capable of the large doses, because the die off effect will be less.

This is exactly what i think is the case with MMS.

Like i said the other day, patients with serious stuff such as cancer/aids/hiv etc
will probably have a lot more bad effects, from the start, using MMS, due to
the amount of stuff initially dying off, and due to weak immune systems etc.

But also, like margaretr says about her candida, I think everyone has candida
to some extent, without even knowing it, and without even knowing what
candida is. Which would explain why some people who take
MMS who think they have 'nothing wrong with them' before they take it, experience
side effects (because of candida dying off causing toxins to be expelled into the system)

Then these people begin to hate MMS because it's made them feel 'worse than before they've taken it'....
in my opinion it is candida (and other stuff) dying off on the initial first few 'blasts' of MMS.

My first couple of days on it resulted in a constant headache, but i knew this was,
in some way, either toxins or bacteria of some sort, dying off, and causing a 'toxin headache'

People need to realise with this stuff, even though it is described as a safe and
'side-effect-free' way of healing, there will be effects experienced due to the
changes occuring in the body/brain as this stuff (toxins/bacteria etc) dies off and is
removed.

It's really a case of starting off slowly/cautiously, increasing slowly, and accepting
that at first it will be the most difficult. Then it's a matter of increasing at such
rate that the MMS is working optimumly, but not causing actual vomiting or
too many 'uncomfortable' effects, cutting down if necessary, but them increasing
again when effects subside.

I have no doubt that if people did MMS this way, and stuck with it for the 12 weeks,
everyone would benefit and not be 'put off' early on.

[onourwayto2012]

Onourwayto2012

What is your dose up to? Don't like to hear it makes you ill first thing in the morn. Back down the number of drops are give yourself a day or two break and pick up again. {{hugs}}
I was a week into it and was doing the 6 drop double dose 3 times a day. I did take two days off and am resuming today. Thanks coco

[lostinstrangeworld]

21_12_2012, has your diarrhea stopped now?

[lostinstrangeworld]

I'm skeptical about this stuff. My stomach has been upset again today after feeling a bit better yesterday. The MMS I took didn't seem to do anything for the slight cold I felt which was coming on as it is still in my system.

I remembered reading someone's post here that they found information that suggests the MMS kills good bacteria as well as bad. This is what my intuition tells me its done to my stomach.

Another question we need to ask is if vitamin C inhibits the strength of the dose then wouldn't lemon juice strongly have this effect?

It also said on one of the links that if someone desires to target intestinal bacteria such as candida then they could add a drop or so to a bottle of drinking water and their own stomach acid would be enough to activate it.

If this is the case....then why doesn't the chlorine in tap water already have this effect on people; wouldn't the chlorine in our water be boosting our immune systems already? And if so, why are people getting diseases?

I can't help but be suspicious....there is always a possibility that con artists may be put out there on purpose to provide the problem-reaction-solution that the Codex Alimentarius organization want to defend themselves against too many people opposing them.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I'm skeptical about this stuff. My stomach has been upset again today after feeling a bit better yesterday. The MMS I took didn't seem to do anything for the slight cold I felt which was coming on as it is still in my system, or other problems.

I remembered reading someone's post here that they found information that suggests the MMS kills good bacteria as well as bad. This is what my intuition tells me its done to my stomach.

Another question we need to ask is if vitamin C inhibits the strength of the dose then wouldn't lemon juice strongly have this effect?

It also said on one of the links that if someone desires to target intestinal bacteria such as candida then they could add a drop or so to a bottle of drinking water and their own stomach acid would be enough to activate it.

If this is the case....then why doesn't the chlorine in tap water already have this effect on people; wouldn't the chlorine in our water be boosting our immune systems already? And if so, why are people getting diseases?

I can't help but be suspicious....there is always a possibility that con artists may be put out there on purpose to provide the problem-reaction-solution that the Codex Alimentarius organization want to defend themselves against too many people opposing them.

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://atheistage.org/?tag=miracle

http://www.themiraclemineralsupplement.com/miracle-mineral/is-mms-miracle-mineral-solution-a-fraud.php

Eve 02.27.09 at 9:22 am

I think MMS may be a fraud. I ordered a heap of it for 6 of us with my family and friends. We have all been taking it for over 3 months now. Most of us got to 15 drops twice a day (which was a strugle) for over a week and then on the 6 drop maintenance dose. One person is still on 12 drops. No one has seen any improvement in any of their conditions and there are quite a few conditions between us. We are now thinking of stopping completely and 2 already have as they saw no improvement. This has been so disapointing and makes me feel bad as I was the one who did all the reading and research and convinced everyone to take it. I can’t express how much I am disappointed.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Apparently, Dr. Bill Deagle said MMS is toxic halides that are toxic to the mitochondria. :eek:

[xpleet]

Apparently, Dr. Bill Deagle said MMS is toxic halides that are toxic to the mitochondria. :eek:
That interests me.

I found this statement in goldismoney.info forum. The next guy says Ahhhh, so Dr. Deagle is against MMS......the plot thickens! He don't like competition!! :D



I've been following several of Deagle's video-interviews and show episodes and I've clearly seen that he has some very deep inside knowledge of some things.

If you look at his show, he promotes hundreds of alternative health products that would cost the consumer thousands of dollars. He's employing a lot of fear-monering to make it look like these products are essential for our well being. Instead of suggesting making our own Colloidal Silver he suggests we buy Supersilver supplies. Instead of even mentioning Orgonite (a man of his knowledge MUST have heard of it) he suggests one buys BioPro chips (made all around the world as clones in different names) for about 75$ each, which are only about 20mm in diameter. From what I heard they are composed of some form of glue or resin mixed with foil (aluminum or something like it). --> ORGONITE.


As much as I wish he was a well meaning doctor with lots of inside knowledge, there are a lot of points that make me very sad and suggest that he is not working in the light of truth. I guess I couldn't call it fraud since fraud is what our economy is based on.

I made these points to demonstrate how I thinkt he is well capable of distributing disinformation in order to save the sales of his own and his affiliates. I wish everyone to be aware of this when considering the truthfulness of Dr. Deagle's statements.
Good men adjust to what works...

[jolinemaria]

I'm skeptical about this stuff. My stomach has been upset again today after feeling a bit better yesterday. The MMS I took didn't seem to do anything for the slight cold I felt which was coming on as it is still in my system.

I remembered reading someone's post here that they found information that suggests the MMS kills good bacteria as well as bad. This is what my intuition tells me its done to my stomach.

Another question we need to ask is if vitamin C inhibits the strength of the dose then wouldn't lemon juice strongly have this effect?

It also said on one of the links that if someone desires to target intestinal bacteria such as candida then they could add a drop or so to a bottle of drinking water and their own stomach acid would be enough to activate it.

If this is the case....then why doesn't the chlorine in tap water already have this effect on people; wouldn't the chlorine in our water be boosting our immune systems already? And if so, why are people getting diseases?

I can't help but be suspicious....there is always a possibility that con artists may be put out there on purpose to provide the problem-reaction-solution that the Codex Alimentarius organization want to defend themselves against too many people opposing them.

I am also doubtfull about the good bacteria not being killed.
But then good bacteria easily multiply again, especially when the 'bad ones' are gone. Intsructions are clear to take it as cure for some period of time and then stop (except for maintenance dose once a week). Instructions are also clear about mms not building up immune system. One should do that additionaly if immune system is weak.

I wondered also about the lemon. But I guess it simply doesn't contain enough vit c (one adds a few drops only) to seriously inhibit the activation.

Jim Humble discovered the working by adding a few drops to drinking water. But since it didn't work the same for everyoine he started researching more. So I guess that is how he came up with pre-activating by adding acid.

MMS is sodium chlorite and activated it is chlorine dioxide. Neither of these is the same as chlorine. And it does not boost the immune system. It kills of pathogens and that gives the immune system better chances to rebuild itself.

This is what I know of it. My personal experience is that it does help. It help me kill parasites and I guess it did some good job on funghi/candida as well, because I feel less tired and my hypoglycemia is gone.

[21_12_2012]

21_12_2012, has your diarrhea stopped now?

It stopped last week, so it lasted around 10-14 days, just twice a day it was,
morning and night.

I'm now taking it roughly every 2 hours, and feeling better than ever.

[21_12_2012]

I am also doubtfull about the good bacteria not being killed.

As i've come to understand it, 'bad bacteria' are much weaker than good bacteria.
When the MMS is circulating and creating the chlorine dioxide in the body, it
is producing a charge which is exploding pathogens. The higher the charge the more
pathogens are destroyed.

A higher charge would result from how the MMS and citric acid ratio is mixed before consuming,
rather than the amount of MMS taken (from what i understand)

When mixed at 1:5, the charge produced is only enough to kill off the weak pathogens
(Jim mentions this charge in his video, and how it works)

But then good bacteria easily multiply again, especially when the 'bad ones' are gone.
Intsructions are clear to take it as cure for some period of time and then stop (except for maintenance dose once a week).

Exactly.

Instructions are also clear about mms not building up immune system. One should do that additionaly if immune system is weak.

Correct

I wondered also about the lemon. But I guess it simply doesn't contain enough vit c (one adds a few drops only) to seriously inhibit the activation.

I also believe this to be the case. [Edit...i just found out, it is non-fresh vitamin C which inhibits
the effect of MMS, and ascorbic acid. Fresh vitamin C (as in fresh fruits and fruitjuices) does not
inhibit the effect of MMS.

MMS is sodium chlorite and activated it is chlorine dioxide. Neither of these is the same as chlorine.

This is it...this is the mistake so many people are making, equating MMS with chlorine.

It is sodium chlorite, which become chlorine dioxide when activated...not
chlorine...which, as many people know, is used in bleaching/industrial products etc and is a poison basically.

This is what I know of it. My personal experience is that it does help. It help me kill parasites and I guess it did some good job on funghi/candida as well, because I feel less tired and my hypoglycemia is gone.

I can honestly say MMS has been a god send for me so far, within a week or
2 it had cleared my persistent synus problem, athletes foot, and chest infection.
Being a smoker i have always had a chesty cough, thats gone now.
Fresher younger skin, stronger mentally and physically, more energy, waking up
fresh in the morning, more clear minded.

All this stuff i have suffered with for over 20 years. MMS has sorted it all out,
and i've only been on it 3 or 4 weeks now.

Ignore the doom mongerers and disinfo merchants, it WORKS, when used properly and cautiously.

[21_12_2012]

I'm skeptical about this stuff. My stomach has been upset again today after feeling a bit better yesterday. The MMS I took didn't seem to do anything for the slight cold I felt which was coming on as it is still in my system.

Persist with the MMS, cut down the amount to reduce the nausea.

I remembered reading someone's post here that they found information that suggests the MMS kills good bacteria as well as bad. This is what my intuition tells me its done to my stomach.

It will probably be the MMS causing the stomach feeling.

It also said on one of the links that if someone desires to target intestinal bacteria such as candida then they could add a drop or so to a bottle of drinking water and their own stomach acid would be enough to activate it.

From what i've read, this is true. But it's a milder way of taking MMS.
It's probably a good way to start if a person feels nausea very soon off 1 or 2 drops (activated as normal with citric).

If this is the case....then why doesn't the chlorine in tap water already have this effect on people; wouldn't the chlorine in our water be boosting our immune systems already? And if so, why are people getting diseases?

Chlorine Dioxide is different to chlorine.

I can't help but be suspicious....there is always a possibility that con artists may be put out there on purpose to provide the problem-reaction-solution that the Codex Alimentarius organization want to defend themselves against too many people opposing them.

It's working like a miracle for me. Jim Humble is definately (from what ive seen of him)
a well meaning, positive, spiritual self-less guy.
He just want s to share this thing to as many as possible before the big companies
start to mess it up for him (which im sure will happen eventually as more people
get cured and spread the word about MMS)

[lostinstrangeworld]

Chlorine Dioxide is different to chlorine.

I've just been doing a little search and I think it is used in tap water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide

Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula ClO2. This reddish-yellow gas crystallizes as orange crystals at −59 °C. As one of several oxides of chlorine, it is a potent and useful oxidizing agent used in water treatment and in bleaching.[1]

[quote]Chlorine dioxide is used primarily (>95%) for bleaching of wood pulp, but is also used for the bleaching of flour and for the disinfection of municipal drinking water. The Niagara Falls, New York water treatment plant first used chlorine dioxide for drinking water treatment in 1944 for phenol destruction. Chlorine dioxide was introduced as a drinking water disinfectant on a large scale in 1956, when Brussels, Belgium, changed from chlorine to chlorine dioxide. Its most common use in water treatment is as a pre-oxidant prior to chlorination of drinking water to destroy natural water impurities that produce trihalomethanes on exposure to free chlorine. Trihalomethanes are suspect carcinogenic disinfection by-products associated with chlorination of naturally occurring organics in the raw water. Chlorine dioxide is also superior to chlorine when operating above pH7, in the presence of ammonia and amines and/or for the control of biofilms in water distribution systems. Chlorine dioxide is used in many industrial water treatment applications as a biocide including cooling towers, process water and food processing. Chlorine dioxide is less corrosive than chlorine and superior for the control of legionella bacteria.

It is more effective as a disinfectant than chlorine in most circumstances against water borne pathogenic microbes such as viruses[6] , bacteria and protozoa – including the cysts of Giardia and the oocysts of Cryptosporidium.

The use of chlorine dioxide in water treatment leads to the formation of the by-product chlorite which is currently limited to a maximum of 1 ppm in drinking water in the USA. This EPA standard limits the use of chlorine dioxide in the USA to relatively high quality water or water which is to be treated with iron based coagulants. (Iron can reduce chlorite to chloride.)

It can also be used for air disinfection, and was the principal agent used in the decontamination of buildings in the United States after the 2001 anthrax attacks. Recently, after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, Louisiana and the surrounding Gulf Coast, chlorine dioxide has been used to eradicate dangerous mold from houses inundated by water from massive flooding.

Chlorine dioxide is used as an oxidant for phenol destruction in waste water streams, control of zebra and quagga mussels in water intakes and for odor control in the air scrubbers of animal byproduct (rendering) plants.

Stabilized chlorine dioxide can also be used in an oral rinse to treat oral disease and malodor, but its adverse side-effects are still being investigated.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Stabilized chlorine dioxide

A number of products are marketed as "stabilized chlorine dioxide" (SCD). Most of these solutions do not actually contain chlorine dioxide but consist of solutions of buffered sodium chlorite. A weak acid can be added to SCD to "activate" it and make chlorine dioxide in-situ without a chlorine dioxide generator. Stabilized chlorine dioxide is used as a broad spectrum disinfectant and anti-microbial[citation needed]; This form of chlorine dioxide is currently being used against bacterial and viral outbreaks including MRSA, Legionella, and Norovirus The use of SCD is effective when the demand for chlorine dioxide is low and when impurities, such as small amounts of sodium, can be tolerated[citation needed]. For application requiring above 5 kg day−1 ClO2, chlorine dioxide produced by a generator with either sodium chlorite or sodium chlorate is typically more economical.

Interesting, I wonder how long people have known about this.

[21_12_2012]

Interesting link..even if it is wikipedia.

The thing is, it doesn't mention about the percentage purity of the
chlorine dioxide mix.

Jim Humble, according to his video interview, experimented for 12 months
adjusting the purity of
the MMS and the citric, and came up with the 28% MMS to 10% citric acid
solution, whereas, the wiki article mentions using chlorine dioxide for
water treatment, but doesn't mention what purity / ratio is used to treat
water.

Also, the lifespan of chlorine dioxide is important in regards to it being used as water treatment.
It may kill off stuff at the beginning when added to the
water, but certainly won't still be working when we drink it from a tap, whereas
chlorine would still be in it's chemical form when we drank it from a tap.

And yes, i too wonder how long 'they' have known about this.

[jolinemaria]

I've just been doing a little search and I think it is used in tap water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide

[quote]Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula ClO2. This reddish-yellow gas crystallizes as orange crystals at −59 °C. As one of several oxides of chlorine, it is a potent and useful oxidizing agent used in water treatment and in bleaching.[1]
Yes, it can be used in water treatment. But is is more expensive than just chlorine. For that reason chlorine is used far more often where chlorine dioxide would be the healthier choice.
It is used as purifier quite often in food industry. They use it there because it works and is a safe choice for the consumer. F.i. flushing the pipelines of a beer brewery. It possible harmfull effects have been researched also because it is used in food industry.
One could probably find the research on the net.

I make my mms from sodium chlorite sold for industrial purposes. It is the same, only 25% in stead of 28%.
I also use it for cleaning out the bathroom etc. (I bought a liter - lasts me a lifetime since few drops are enough).
And it does bleach - I spilled a few drops on my clothing.
But you know you take only a few drops for a short period of time.
I don't worry about it. I bet an afternoon in a chlorine purified swimming pool is far more dangerous. And this we do all of the time and we sent our kids there without a second thought. I see it in that persepctive.
We are talking about taking a few drops only, not about swallowing a whole bottle. Caution is necesseray just as one wouldn't swallow a bottle of chlorine.

Best advice to anyone: if you don't feel it is safe just don't take it.
It is not the only thing around. There is plenty of 'alternative' ways to create a good health around these days.

[silvabak]

would like to try this mms....

how do i get the ingredients an make it please?

[lostinstrangeworld]

I think the diarrhea I experienced over the weekend may have been from a virus going around and not the MMS......I'm a little disappointed the MMS didn't seem to help a bit better with that....maybe I need to be more careful when I make it up to use more accurate amounts and time it carefully. (Squeezing a lemon is a little tricky as juice drops sizes may vary more than drops of MMS). I'm too lazy to make up the citric acid crystals; I don't have a tablespoon or any measuring equipment. Also, I wonder if the American definition of "tablespoon" is the same as over here? :eek:

:p :o

[21_12_2012]

I think the diarrhea I experienced over the weekend may have been from a virus going around and not the MMS......I'm a little disappointed the MMS didn't seem to help a bit better with that....maybe I need to be more careful when I make it up to use more accurate amounts and time it carefully. (Squeezing a lemon is a little tricky as juice drops sizes may vary more than drops of MMS). I'm too lazy to make up the citric acid crystals; I don't have a tablespoon or any measuring equipment. Also, I wonder if the American definition of "tablespoon" is the same as over here? :eek:

:p :o

From what i have read, and my limited knowledge of chemistry (which is virtually zero) :-

It shouldn't matter how big an american or british tablespoon size is...
as long as you measure it as follows:-

1 tablespoon of citric acid powder mixed with 9 of the same sized tablespoons
of water,
will make a 10% citric acid solution.

Presumably, if you wanted to make a massive bottle of it, you could, for example use :-

1 full glass of citric acid powder, mixed with 9 full glasses of water (using a same-sized glass)

I could be wrong, but that is how i have come to understand how the mix is done.

[silvabak]

excellent thankyou......tap water or bottled? and could i get this powder from a chemist or health shop?

[21_12_2012]

excellent thankyou......tap water or bottled? and could i get this powder from a chemist or health shop?

Hi, sorry, i was replying to lostinstrangeworlds post.

If you want to make chlorine dioxide yourself, you'd need to also get hold of
some sodium chlorite, if you read back through this thread you can find out
where to get this from, i am not sure, but i think it has to be 90% laboratory
grade sodium chlorite, i think it is only available from the USA, not sure
actually.

Also, i think you need distilled water to mix the sodium chlorite solution into
(again, i am not sure without reading back about it)

I dont think the citric acid powder has to be mixed with distilled water, but
if i was making some i would.

Of course, it is easier, and more convenient, to just buy some ready made.

I paid £40 for about 9 months worth. Well worth it.

[lostinstrangeworld]

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[mojoarizona]

This is exactly what i think is the case with MMS.

Like i said the other day, patients with serious stuff such as cancer/aids/hiv etc
will probably have a lot more bad effects, from the start, using MMS, due to
the amount of stuff initially dying off, and due to weak immune systems etc.

But also, like margaretr says about her candida, I think everyone has candida
to some extent, without even knowing it, and without even knowing what
candida is. Which would explain why some people who take
MMS who think they have 'nothing wrong with them' before they take it, experience
side effects (because of candida dying off causing toxins to be expelled into the system)

Then these people begin to hate MMS because it's made them feel 'worse than before they've taken it'....
in my opinion it is candida (and other stuff) dying off on the initial first few 'blasts' of MMS.

My first couple of days on it resulted in a constant headache, but i knew this was,
in some way, either toxins or bacteria of some sort, dying off, and causing a 'toxin headache'

People need to realise with this stuff, even though it is described as a safe and
'side-effect-free' way of healing, there will be effects experienced due to the
changes occuring in the body/brain as this stuff (toxins/bacteria etc) dies off and is
removed.

It's really a case of starting off slowly/cautiously, increasing slowly, and accepting
that at first it will be the most difficult. Then it's a matter of increasing at such
rate that the MMS is working optimumly, but not causing actual vomiting or
too many 'uncomfortable' effects, cutting down if necessary, but them increasing
again when effects subside.

I have no doubt that if people did MMS this way, and stuck with it for the 12 weeks,
everyone would benefit and not be 'put off' early on.

This is a Herkksiser reaction or a healing crisis, just ride it out and DETOXIFY! Epsom baths, juice fasting, colonic hydrotherapy, detoxing herbal supplement are some ways. ALso, there is a fantastic tea made from senna leaves in the oriental grocers called Diet Tea, but read the label, if it is senna, it is AMAZING! and really does an incredible detox, just drink 1 cup a day and expect to use the bathroom within a few hours, it is like a whole body tonic, but stronger than Wu-YI tea and cheap, like 4 bucks a box!

[lostinstrangeworld]

My conclusion regarding MMS is that there appears to be a lot said for it.....however I don't think enough is known about it and what other kind of bacteria and cells it may destroy in the body and the side effects from that.....therefore more investigation needs to be done (using petri dishes, etc).

Until we know more about it, I think it only ought to be used for extreme conditions and herbal remedies, diet, energy healing, etc for other conditions.

[remium]

My conclusion regarding MMS is that there appears to be a lot said for it.....however I don't think enough is known about it and what other kind of bacteria and cells it may destroy in the body and the side effects from that.....therefore more investigation needs to be done (using petri dishes, etc).

Until we know more about it, I think it only ought to be used for extreme conditions and herbal remedies, diet, energy healing, etc for other conditions.

lol ... Thats a joke ... you think that a large pharm company hasnt tested the claims yet??? And you think that large pharm company is gonna release the info into the public domain regardless of the outcome, in some sort of non-selfish way???

If you want more answers other than those that countless ppl have posted on the internet with their own experiences and experiments, for and against. Then you best get yer own petri dishes :P

[21_12_2012]

My conclusion regarding MMS is that there appears to be a lot said for it.....however I don't think enough is known about it and what other kind of bacteria and cells it may destroy in the body and the side effects from that.

I agree that not enough is known about the doseages/ratios and safe amounts
for various conditions, but in my case, i do not feel like any 'good bacteria'
have been destroyed. Maybe some have, i don't know for sure, but i feel so much better
than before i used it, and the symptoms it has cleared up for me are definately
not a placebo effect.
The side effects were very minimal for me. Even though i got diarrhoea for
over a week, it was handle-able. The nausea wasn't bad, but i've always had a strong
stomach, so maybe it would be worse for many people than it was for me.

Until we know more about it, I think it only ought to be used for extreme conditions and herbal remedies, diet, energy healing, etc for other conditions.

In my case, i have to disagree with this.
It has cured me of a lot of conditions not considered serious, such as athletes
foot, chesty cough/infection, blocked synus, and i believe MMS is very useful
indeed for minor conditions, as well as serious ones. But i think people should
use it very cautiously at the beginning, until the person 'feels right' about the
amount they are taking.

you think that a large pharm company hasnt tested the claims yet??? And you think that large pharm company is gonna release the info into the public domain regardless of the outcome, in some sort of non-selfish way???

I have no doubt that this is true, but what i think lostinstrangeworld is saying,
is that more independant testing should be done, not by big pharma companies.

But, that seems very unlikely, and the results would hardly become public
information.

Thats the problem with stuff like this that actually works....it's so much of a
threat to big pharma illuminati scum, it'll probably never be acknowledged publically
as something that works.

I suppose Jim Humbles only way of getting this out is the way he is doing, and has been
doing from the start...word of mouth...and personal experience.
At least word is getting out...slowly.

[lostinstrangeworld]

The only thing that makes me feel more cautious towards MMS than, say, herbal remedies.....is that chlorine is a chemical, a quite intense one. I agree that it has potential to do a lot of good, and would definitely encourage people to take it for serious conditions....however there are rumors that MMS could possibly destroy mitochondria cells is the body.....that is why I personally am not going to use MMS simply for maintenance.

As for asking the pharmaceutical companies to test something for me....I would rather die than have them torture those poor animals....which is bad fucking science anyway. :mad:
And it wouldn't surprise me if the reason pharmaceutical drugs make people have so many bad side-effects is because of the negative energy and karma emanating from the terrible pain and suffering of thousands of animals every single fucking day. :(:(:(:(:(

[21_12_2012]

The only thing that makes me feel more cautious towards MMS than, say, herbal remedies.....is that chlorine is a chemical, a quite intense one.

Chlorine is yes. But chlorine dioxide, made from sodium chlorite, isn't the same.

As one poster mentioned, if you go swimming in a pool, that is far more poisonous and worse for the body than ingesting a few drops of chlorine dioxide. Also probably drinking a glass of tap water would be more detrimental.

Just because people don't get noticeable side effects from drinking chlorinated water (immediately), doesnt mean it isnt harming them. We all know it does, and the effects are cumulutive.

Chlorine dioxide produces side effects which are noticeable quite early on, but these effects aren't due to chemical poisoning, from what i have read and experienced, they are due to toxins/bad bacteria dying off and creating temporary toxins.

As many people have stated, chlorine dioxide, after it has acted, turns into simple salt and water and is harmlessly expelled from the body.

agree that it has potential to do a lot of good, and would definitely encourage people to take it for serious conditions....however there are rumors that MMS could possibly destroy mitochondria cells is the body.....that is why I personally am not going to use MMS simply for maintenance.

It may or not be the case, rumours are just that...rumours. But, like another posted has stated, good bacteria build up far quicker than bad bacteria, especially when the ratio of bad/good has been hammered by MMS, and the good outweigh the bad. Which is why it is important to have breaks from MMS, in my opinion, in order for the body to rebalance itself and restore the good bacteria now and again.

As for asking the pharmaceutical companies to test something for me....I would rather die than have them torture those poor animals....which is bad fucking science anyway. :mad:
And it wouldn't surprise me if the reason pharmaceutical drugs make people have so many bad side-effects is because of the negative energy and karma emanating from the terrible pain and suffering of thousands of animals every single fucking day. :(:(:(:(:(

It would be good to see it tested maybe on willing human volunteers, if that is their wish (to be tested on and paid for it)

In fact, i would be a volunteer myself if i got the chance.

[remium]

As for asking the pharmaceutical companies to test something for me....I would rather die than have them torture those poor animals....which is bad fucking science anyway. :mad:
And it wouldn't surprise me if the reason pharmaceutical drugs make people have so many bad side-effects is because of the negative energy and karma emanating from the terrible pain and suffering of thousands of animals every single fucking day. :(:(:(:(:(

Although it is a very valid point, its not the point I was trying to make. Im saying if there is no profit to be gained by releasing the information, even if its for or against the product, then any profit run company wouldnt just release it to us, be it human volunteering or animal sacrifice.
Unless a non-profit organization had access to a lab, volunteers and case studies, then perhaps the report would get out into the public domain...
Ohhh just a minute thats already happened its called ...

The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century Parts 1 & 2 by Jim Humble

[thelucifer]

The only thing that makes me feel more cautious towards MMS than, say, herbal remedies.....is that chlorine is a chemical, a quite intense one. I agree that it has potential to do a lot of good, and would definitely encourage people to take it for serious conditions....however there are rumors that MMS could possibly destroy mitochondria cells is the body.....that is why I personally am not going to use MMS simply for maintenance.

As for asking the pharmaceutical companies to test something for me....I would rather die than have them torture those poor animals....which is bad fucking science anyway. :mad:
And it wouldn't surprise me if the reason pharmaceutical drugs make people have so many bad side-effects is because of the negative energy and karma emanating from the terrible pain and suffering of thousands of animals every single fucking day. :(:(:(:(:(






http://jimhumble.biz/biz-brochure.pdf

“If oxygen doesn’t do damage to the body, then ClO2 positively won’t do damage. It’s oxidation strength is way below oxygen.”



MMS (in the correct mix/strength) cant hurt mitochondria or good bacteria, good bacteria love oxygen and are thus strong, able to withstand higher oxidation than the weak anaerobic microbes.

[21_12_2012]

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-brochure.pdf

“If oxygen doesn’t do damage to the body, then ClO2 positively won’t do damage. It’s oxidation strength is way below oxygen.”



MMS (in the correct mix/strength) cant hurt mitochondria or good bacteria, good bacteria love oxygen and are thus strong, able to withstand higher oxidation than the weak anaerobic microbes.

I thought this to be the case. It is good news. Thanks for posting.

However, i am curious to know what kind of strength/ratio mix would be strong enough to begin to kill off good bacteria.

I doubt enough research has been done to find this out, plus i think it may vary person to person according to their size/weight, metabolism, immune system, and seriousness of their 'conditions' which they are being treated for.

I also wonder if a person can tell that their good bacteria are starting to deplete from using too high/strong doseages of MMS, and what those symptoms would be when the bacteria are dying.

All in all though, i am over the moon about MMS, i cannot praise it enough.

[margaretr]

You can easily supply your digestive tract with good bacteria by drinking kefir
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html#Kefir-d-acqua
...better stuff than those pricey 'health drinks' and costs only the price of the milk

[21_12_2012]

Good stuff. I probably wouldn't have a go at making it though. I'm hopeless at concentrating sometimes and finishing tasks..!

Which is why i'm detoxing, and why i bought the MMS...and bought it already 'made-up' !

[thelucifer]

I thought this to be the case. It is good news. Thanks for posting.

However, i am curious to know what kind of strength/ratio mix would be strong enough to begin to kill off good bacteria.

I doubt enough research has been done to find this out, plus i think it may vary person to person according to their size/weight, metabolism, immune system, and seriousness of their 'conditions' which they are being treated for.

I also wonder if a person can tell that their good bacteria are starting to deplete from using too high/strong doseages of MMS, and what those symptoms would be when the bacteria are dying.

All in all though, i am over the moon about MMS, i cannot praise it enough.

My thinking is simple, too much of a good thing is bad.

If you take a straight 1/5 MMS mixture (not dilute it with water etc) and place it on the skin you can burn the skin (this I have played around with now), especially on sensitive skin areas.
Ingesting an undiluted mix would be bad, very bad.

As everyone knows, it has been determined a 1/5 ratio diluted into water or juice (I use about a half cup of juice) is best.
Using less acid releases less ClO2 at a slower rate (which some people are doing) so increasing the acid releases more at a faster rate, which Im certain would be bad/harmful (Im not going to try it :eek:), the 1/5 is good enough for Jim its good enough for me. ;)


When using MMS (8-10 MMS drops) topically with DMSO the DMSO drops (10 drops) and 2-3 tablespoons of water dilute it so it is plenty safe for all skin areas and can be done again in 2 hours.
Without the water hence the MMS and DMSO drops only it can still burn the skin.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Although it is a very valid point, its not the point I was trying to make. Im saying if there is no profit to be gained by releasing the information, even if its for or against the product, then any profit run company wouldnt just release it to us, be it human volunteering or animal sacrifice.
Unless a non-profit organization had access to a lab, volunteers and case studies, then perhaps the report would get out into the public domain...
Ohhh just a minute thats already happened its called ...

The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century Parts 1 & 2 by Jim Humble

Sorry, not read it yet, still recovering from my virus. ;)

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-brochure.pdf

“If oxygen doesn’t do damage to the body, then ClO2 positively won’t do damage. It’s oxidation strength is way below oxygen.”



MMS (in the correct mix/strength) cant hurt mitochondria or good bacteria, good bacteria love oxygen and are thus strong, able to withstand higher oxidation than the weak anaerobic microbes.

Sure, I need to read the ebooks to find out how this works.

One thing I do know is that the stuff doesn't taste too good. :D

[21_12_2012]

Sure, I need to read the ebooks to find out how this works.

One thing I do know is that the stuff doesn't taste too good. :D

I've noticed a lot of people saying they don't like or can't handle the taste.

I'm ok with it. In fact i can't even taste it at all. I can smell it though
after it's been activating for a few minutes. The whole kitchen stinks of it.

What i do find hard to get down sometimes though is organic
spirulina powder....ugg...but i force it down twice a day if possible, half a
teaspoon each dose. It's very beneficial.

[thelucifer]

I have been doing the double dose 3 times a day protocol, yesterday I was at 10 drops.
I was gone for more than half the day yesterday so when I got home last night I took a 10 drop dose and threw up a few minutes later.
I have thrown up a couple times after the first dose in the morning, morning seems to be the toughest time, but then I do a second dose an hour later and was just fine.
I did 5 drops this morning, no nausea.
This afternoon I tried something different, I took 5 drops and took 10 drops a half hour later and then took 15 drops 1 hour after that, that’s 30 drops in an hour and a half, no nausea.

I suspected a lower first dose would make the following higher doses easier and that was the case today, doing a higher dose at first is tough on the stomach.


I am going to do that regiment in the morning and see how it goes, if all is well I am going to do it again in the afternoon and if all is well I will do it a third time tomorrow evening.



I will check in in a couple days and post an update.



This is a protocol I came up with today.

1st day, 1 drop, 3 drops a half hour later and 5 drops an hour later.

2nd day, 2 drops, 5 drops a half hour later and then 7 drops an hour after that.

3rd day, 3 - 7 - 9.

4th day, 4 - 9 - 12.

5th day, 5 - 10 - 15.


Start out 2 times a day and on the 6th day go to 3 times a day.

Even just doing this protocol twice a day is 60 drops total per day which is quite serious.

[jolly roger]

Hi,

I have just found this forum.

I just received my first kit of MMS and Citric acid solution. Started off at 3 drops this morning. Going to try 5 drops after an hour. Will probably repeat tonight and see how it goes before increasing any further.

[jolinemaria]

Good luck and welcome to the forum!

[thelucifer]

I have been doing the double dose 3 times a day protocol, yesterday I was at 10 drops.
I was gone for more than half the day yesterday so when I got home last night I took a 10 drop dose and threw up a few minutes later.
I have thrown up a couple times after the first dose in the morning, morning seems to be the toughest time, but then I do a second dose an hour later and was just fine.
I did 5 drops this morning, no nausea.
This afternoon I tried something different, I took 5 drops and took 10 drops a half hour later and then took 15 drops 1 hour after that, that’s 30 drops in an hour and a half, no nausea.

I suspected a lower first dose would make the following higher doses easier and that was the case today, doing a higher dose at first is tough on the stomach.


I am going to do that regiment in the morning and see how it goes, if all is well I am going to do it again in the afternoon and if all is well I will do it a third time tomorrow evening.



I will check in in a couple days and post an update.



This is a protocol I came up with today.

1st day, 1 drop, 3 drops a half hour later and 5 drops an hour later.

2nd day, 2 drops, 5 drops a half hour later and then 7 drops an hour after that.

3rd day, 3 - 7 - 9.

4th day, 4 - 9 - 12.

5th day, 5 - 10 - 15.


Start out 2 times a day and on the 6th day go to 3 times a day.

Even just doing this protocol twice a day is 60 drops total per day which is quite serious.

Holly crap…erm…I mean, holly diarrhea these higher doses are tough on the stomach/daily living.

Now going through (I have went up to 25 drops of 35% hydrogen peroxide 3 times a day 2 times and went to 17 drops in water [the taste was very bad] and let me tell you, that’s a serious kick as well) all this I’m thinking there has got to be an easier way and so I have been looking into it and this what I’m thinking.
Working up as high as you can go orally (dont be affraid to endure some diarrhea for a little while) is good especially for intestinal parasites/worms etc but then back off to low/easy doses and also use DMSO and MMS together topically/through the skin.

1. Topically “You will not have any stomach problems even if you use the maximum dose.”

2. The DMSO gets the ClO2 to places you can’t get it to via orally/the stomach.


A double blessing.




Below are a couple links and a few quotes in this regard.

It seems the legs and arms (one arm or leg at a time and alternating with applications) are best for topically because of the muscle mass in these areas, where there is lots of muscle there is lots of blood flow, but all over is good of course.
The DMSO gets the ClO2 directly into the blood/tissues/cells.


I think as with the Bob Beck blood electrifier the wrists/forearms should be a good area to apply DMSO and MMS because of the arteries being so close to the skin.
There are a couple other areas that would be good to target as well, hit them all at once and again a couple hours later if the skin is not irritated.
Do this every day for a month or two, like the Bob Beck blood electrifier.





http://new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html


However, if you are taking the chlorine dioxide transdermally, then you can use the "maximum" dose of chlorine dioxide for your weight because your stomach is totally bypassed.


You will not have any stomach problems even if you use the maximum dose.


By doing this you will be getting the full benefit of the chlorine dioxide without irritating your stomach.



http://new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DMSO_CD.html

After ADDING the DMSO to the chlorine dioxide you need to stir the mixture, then wait an additional 3 minutes, stirring the mixture every 30 seconds.
This is the SECOND TIME you have waited 3 minutes. This time you are waiting for the DMSO to bind to the chlorine dioxide.
After this second wait of 3 minutes you have a mixture which contains both chlorine dioxide and DMSO.
At this point you can rub the mixture on the skin. Spread it very thin over a large area of skin so it does not create a rash.

[rowantk]

Hi ya guys. Ive read a few posts on here about MMS, Im very interested in trying it myself. But first I've a friend who needs some help.

A friend of mine started taking MMS about a week ago but not alot has been happening! She bought it from this site-

http://www.themiraclemineralsupplement.com/

So it should be the right stuff? Heres what she does-

'I mix the mms with the citric acid i bought with it at a ratio of 1/5. I then wait 3-10 mins and add 1/3 - 2/3 of water and mix and drink. This is after a piece of fruit. or something light. But, i eat, or drink some herbal tea or hot water, about 20-30mins after. About an hr or sometimes after that i get so nauseous and dizzy, motion sickness too and hard to talk at lengths. This lasts til i next eat which is lunch so for a few hrs. I did get a small rash across my belly and some tightness of my chest when i started taking it. Im using it to help with gluten/wheat and lactose intolerances.'

Unlike many of you guys she doesn't get the 'normal' need for a toilet? So does this mean its not actually working/detoxing? Anyway would be good to hear your opinions.

Thanks

Rowan

[mamakaz]

hi everyone, x

well reading this thread has taken me all morning, and its all very interesting,
and i suddenly realised that i use Chlorine Dioxide for the pool (which goes up every summer) and i always have Citric Acid in the kitchen (packets bought from local turkish supermarket)

is this the same stuff as mms?

I cant remember offhand the doses i use in the pool, the Chlorine Dioxide comes with a chart and scoop, the reason i decided to use this rather than chorine/bromine is this..
http://www.safeox.com/chlorine-dioxide-clo2.htm

i wonder if its the same?

i bought it online, cant remeber where now, but i get the odd email on special offers.

Mms is something i would be willing to try, after reading this thread

[thelucifer]

Hi ya guys. Ive read a few posts on here about MMS, Im very interested in trying it myself. But first I've a friend who needs some help.

A friend of mine started taking MMS about a week ago but not alot has been happening! She bought it from this site-

http://www.themiraclemineralsupplement.com/

So it should be the right stuff? Heres what she does-

'I mix the mms with the citric acid i bought with it at a ratio of 1/5. I then wait 3-10 mins and add 1/3 - 2/3 of water and mix and drink. This is after a piece of fruit. or something light. But, i eat, or drink some herbal tea or hot water, about 20-30mins after. About an hr or sometimes after that i get so nauseous and dizzy, motion sickness too and hard to talk at lengths. This lasts til i next eat which is lunch so for a few hrs. I did get a small rash across my belly and some tightness of my chest when i started taking it. Im using it to help with gluten/wheat and lactose intolerances.'

Unlike many of you guys she doesn't get the 'normal' need for a toilet? So does this mean its not actually working/detoxing? Anyway would be good to hear your opinions.

Thanks

Rowan

Did you start at 1 drop ?


As your friend gets up to higher drops she will get diarrhea.

[rowantk]

Yes I believe she started on one drop and is building up like the instruction have stated. Its just she isn't sure it working. Also isn't too sure about the rash? Maybe if your not that 'toxic' at the start of taking MMS you dont get such a massive impact?

[rowantk]

Oh just spoke to my friend, she told me this-

''I kept at the same dose today but wasnt sick just so so tired and a bit down? Its making me super tired and im having lotsa dreams about ex's and the past too. I have no energy or motivation and just wanted to stay in bed today.......not sure if u wanted to add that in or not - im having an onslaught of random effects. And this whole 'elimination' of waste its supposed to do im having the opposite effect where its killing my belly and making my usual toilet trips not happen. I thought i was supposed to go more?''

Does this sound right? Also I was wondering, why does the chlorine dioxide not destroy the good bacteria in the body?

Thanks

[ex sheep]

hi everyone, x

well reading this thread has taken me all morning, and its all very interesting,
and i suddenly realised that i use Chlorine Dioxide for the pool (which goes up every summer) and i always have Citric Acid in the kitchen (packets bought from local turkish supermarket)

is this the same stuff as mms?

I cant remember offhand the doses i use in the pool, the Chlorine Dioxide comes with a chart and scoop, the reason i decided to use this rather than chorine/bromine is this..
http://www.safeox.com/chlorine-dioxide-clo2.htm

i wonder if its the same?

i bought it online, cant remeber where now, but i get the odd email on special offers.

Mms is something i would be willing to try, after reading this thread

NO it's not the same stuff, please do some research on this before going any further.


I have been trying 1/5 every hour and I really think this is THE way to go, its not a big dose, but it's constantly working, but then again as always I will take a break for a couple of days.

How you doing manit ?
hope you are well :)

[halebox]

Oh just spoke to my friend, she told me this-

''I kept at the same dose today but wasnt sick just so so tired and a bit down? Its making me super tired and im having lotsa dreams about ex's and the past too. I have no energy or motivation and just wanted to stay in bed today.......not sure if u wanted to add that in or not - im having an onslaught of random effects. And this whole 'elimination' of waste its supposed to do im having the opposite effect where its killing my belly and making my usual toilet trips not happen. I thought i was supposed to go more?''

Does this sound right? Also I was wondering, why does the chlorine dioxide not destroy the good bacteria in the body?

Thanks
Same here no diarhea and weak and tired and down

[rowantk]

Does anyone know if MMS could possibly damage the stomach? Could it possibly eat away at the stomach lining? Create ulcers? Or kill of the good bacteria? Has anyone any experience of this?

[lupa]

mms is not strong enough to kill the good guys inside your system but just strong enough to blow the hell out of the bad guys :)

just wondering actually peeps. i have a chilled water dispenser with a 3 litre water holder. how many drops would be needed do you think to give it a good clean out. i have been using milton sterilising tablets to do the job but would like to give it a real good clean?

any ideas?

thanks

[lostinstrangeworld]

I find this thread puritanical.

[remium]

I find this thread puritanical.

Yea ok ...lets just throw it all down our throats without a care ... woddya say :eek:

'puritanical' :p ... I'm gonna carry on with baby steps whilst experimenting with this stuff, thank you all the same!!! :D

[kingmob]

Looks interesting. Might just buy this for my next detoxhttps://bodybuilderspro.info/customimages/62/1240197088/random.gif

[rowantk]

My friend has decided to quit as she is feeling really ill. Bad stomach aches and real low energy. She hasnt had any real big trips to the toilet. So it seems its not 'de-toxing'? Shes decided decided its easier to live with her gluten intolerence. Has anyone any ideas of any other treatments to help with that sort of illness?

[thelucifer]

My friend has decided to quit as she is feeling really ill. Bad stomach aches and real low energy. She hasnt had any real big trips to the toilet. So it seems its not 'de-toxing'? Shes decided decided its easier to live with her gluten intolerence. Has anyone any ideas of any other treatments to help with that sort of illness?


http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/gluten-intolerance.html?pageNum=2


In addition to the dangers of malnutrition and malabsorption, gluten intolerance can increase a person's risk of developing a number of serious conditions. These include type 1 diabetes, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, other autoimmune diseases and certain forms of cancer.






These diseases are caused by viruses, all the more reason to stay with MMS, just stay at a lower dose and increase at a slower rate.
Stay below the nausea level.

Some things can take months.

Look into using MMS with DMSO topically also, no nausea.

[macleodmunro]

mms is not strong enough to kill the good guys inside your system but just strong enough to blow the hell out of the bad guys :)

just wondering actually peeps. i have a chilled water dispenser with a 3 litre water holder. how many drops would be needed do you think to give it a good clean out. i have been using milton sterilising tablets to do the job but would like to give it a real good clean?

any ideas?

thanks

Suggested uses from a bottle of MMS Professional: "add one to five drops of mms to one gallon (or 4 litres) of water. Let stand for 24 hours".

I believe this is to purify the water, no activation with citric acid needed.
Hope this helps.

[onourwayto2012]

http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/gluten-intolerance.html?pageNum=2


In addition to the dangers of malnutrition and malabsorption, gluten intolerance can increase a person's risk of developing a number of serious conditions. These include type 1 diabetes, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, other autoimmune diseases and certain forms of cancer.






These diseases are caused by viruses, all the more reason to stay with MMS, just stay at a lower dose and increase at a slower rate.
Stay below the nausea level.

Some things can take months.

Look into using MMS with DMSO topically also, no nausea.
just ordered some dmso to try topical....... got a little paranoid after my third puke...... cuz I never puke. thanks for that alternate method.

[lupa]

Suggested uses from a bottle of MMS Professional: "add one to five drops of mms to one gallon (or 4 litres) of water. Let stand for 24 hours".

I believe this is to purify the water, no activation with citric acid needed.
Hope this helps.

thanks for that :)

i'll give that a go just want to clean all the pipes inside that i cannot get to

[rowantk]

Ok, quick questions!

Im just curious what is dmso? Can you explain what the dmso tihng is and how topically it would help with the intolerances? Like what would you do with it, where do can you get the dmso from and what is it?

Thanks
Rowan

[thelucifer]

Ok, quick questions!

Im just curious what is dmso? Can you explain what the dmso tihng is and how topically it would help with the intolerances? Like what would you do with it, where do can you get the dmso from and what is it?

Thanks
Rowan


The below is from post #582.



http://new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html


However, if you are taking the chlorine dioxide transdermally, then you can use the "maximum" dose of chlorine dioxide for your weight because your stomach is totally bypassed.


You will not have any stomach problems even if you use the maximum dose.


By doing this you will be getting the full benefit of the chlorine dioxide without irritating your stomach.



http://new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DMSO_CD.html

After ADDING the DMSO to the chlorine dioxide you need to stir the mixture, then wait an additional 3 minutes, stirring the mixture every 30 seconds.
This is the SECOND TIME you have waited 3 minutes. This time you are waiting for the DMSO to bind to the chlorine dioxide.
After this second wait of 3 minutes you have a mixture which contains both chlorine dioxide and DMSO.
At this point you can rub the mixture on the skin. Spread it very thin over a large area of skin so it does not create a rash.






Jim Humble mentions DMSO with MMS also on his site.




What I do is make an 8/40 MMS mix, wait 3 minutes, add 45 drops of DMSO
and wait 3 more minutes (stiring every 30 seconds), add 3 teaspoons of water and spread on skin.
You can probably use a little less water but keep in mind you can/might burn the skin a little, if so just add a little more water next time.

[kingmob]

The below is from post #582.



http://new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html


However, if you are taking the chlorine dioxide transdermally, then you can use the "maximum" dose of chlorine dioxide for your weight because your stomach is totally bypassed.


You will not have any stomach problems even if you use the maximum dose.


By doing this you will be getting the full benefit of the chlorine dioxide without irritating your stomach.



http://new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DMSO_CD.html

After ADDING the DMSO to the chlorine dioxide you need to stir the mixture, then wait an additional 3 minutes, stirring the mixture every 30 seconds.
This is the SECOND TIME you have waited 3 https://bodybuilderspro.info/customimages/62/1240197088/random.gifminutes. This time you are waiting for the DMSO to bind to the chlorine dioxide.
After this second wait of 3 minutes you have a mixture which contains both chlorine dioxide and DMSO.
At this point you can rub the mixture on the skin. Spread it very thin over a large area of skin so it does not create a rash.






Jim Humble mentions DMSO with MMS also on his site.




What I do is make an 8/40 MMS mix, wait 3 minutes, add 45 drops of DMSO
and wait 3 more minutes (stiring every 30 seconds), add 3 teaspoons of water and spread on skin.
You can probably use a little less water but keep in mind you can/might burn the skin a little, if so just add a little more water next time.

Solid advice, will give it a go.

[happyhouse]

Hello guys

The amount of real life testimonials out there of late on the Miracle Mineral Supplement (http://www.mmshealthy4life.com/) is becoming undeniable with both the amount of people using this product, and to the efigacy of this chlorine dioxide compound.

If it were more dubious than positive, surely we would know about it by now!

It reads alot better than most of the rubbish that they try to peddle out there these days!

I for ine think it to be a powerful medicine!

To better health!

[happyhouse]

If you are looking for a blog that is packed full of real life testimonials from individuals suffering from a plethora of real life health issues, along with the success that they have had with this Miracle Mineral Solution (http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/), then follow the highlighted link and make up your own mind on wether this product works or not....

Again, to better health!

[21_12_2012]

I was out at a house party last weekend, and didnt get much sleep, and caught
a 'virus' of some sort from someone at the party.

It took a few days to start manifesting, i started with a banging headache and sneezing.

Then a very sore burning throat, and aching muscles, and very tired.

I phoned my friend who's party i was at and asked if anybody else there had been ill
that he knew of.

He said yes, his work mate had been off for a week with this virus, (the week before the party),
and his friend said it took a week to fully manifest, so it was 2 weeks he was 'ill'

I described the symptoms to my friend, he agreed it was the same as this other guy
had suffered.

It felt like flu to me, i have never been this ill for years.

Anyway, to the point....
I thought "MMS should cure this"

So i had LOTS of MMS...like 4 doses a day of 10 or 15 drops each dose.

After 2 days of being VERY ill, the symptoms went away...not completely, but
nearly.

Then...they came back...which i was very disappointed about. SO i upped the
dose of MMS slightly, and today the symptoms have nearly gone, and i think they
won't come back now.

SO...i suffered for about 4 days, whereas this other guy apparently, was bad for nearly 2 weeks.

I am usually rough for a couple of weeks when i get a virus like this, so
i do
believe MMS has helped tremendously.

But i was hoping (like it claims) that it would kill any flu in 48 hours..but it didnt
in my case.

But...i had a rough week because my cat was in 'season' and was getting next to
no sleep while i had this virus, due to the cat screeching all night and day,
so maybe that is why it took longer than 48 hours to go away, and maybe that is
why it 'came back' after i had thought i'd cured it...because having not much sleep
was probably counteracting the effects of the MMS a bit.

Anyway..i am very pleased to be 'not ill' now. I felt REALLY rough, and today i feel
good. In less than 1 week.

[21_12_2012]

I've finally run out of citric acid to take my MMS with...i had a look on ebay
and was wondering (because i knownothing about chemistry) if anhydrous food grade
citric acid is what is needed ?

I cant remember who was selling it now, and cant be bothered to find it again because im rushing off out in a minute, but i think the seller said it can be
used for 'bath bombs' as well..whatever they are.

[ben1338]

Any cases in treating swine flu ?

[xpleet]

I was out at a house party last weekend, and didnt get much sleep, and caught
a 'virus' of some sort from someone at the party.

It took a few days to start manifesting, i started with a banging headache and sneezing.

Then a very sore burning throat, and aching muscles, and very tired.

I phoned my friend who's party i was at and asked if anybody else there had been ill
that he knew of.

He said yes, his work mate had been off for a week with this virus, (the week before the party),
and his friend said it took a week to fully manifest, so it was 2 weeks he was 'ill'

I described the symptoms to my friend, he agreed it was the same as this other guy
had suffered.

It felt like flu to me, i have never been this ill for years.

Anyway, to the point....
I thought "MMS should cure this"

So i had LOTS of MMS...like 4 doses a day of 10 or 15 drops each dose.

After 2 days of being VERY ill, the symptoms went away...not completely, but
nearly.

Then...they came back...which i was very disappointed about. SO i upped the
dose of MMS slightly, and today the symptoms have nearly gone, and i think they
won't come back now.

SO...i suffered for about 4 days, whereas this other guy apparently, was bad for nearly 2 weeks.

I am usually rough for a couple of weeks when i get a virus like this, so
i do
believe MMS has helped tremendously.

But i was hoping (like it claims) that it would kill any flu in 48 hours..but it didnt
in my case.

But...i had a rough week because my cat was in 'season' and was getting next to
no sleep while i had this virus, due to the cat screeching all night and day,
so maybe that is why it took longer than 48 hours to go away, and maybe that is
why it 'came back' after i had thought i'd cured it...because having not much sleep
was probably counteracting the effects of the MMS a bit.

Anyway..i am very pleased to be 'not ill' now. I felt REALLY rough, and today i feel
good. In less than 1 week.

Why Viruses are harder to kill

...

The reason lies in the nature of the pathogens themselves. Bacteria are living organisms that, multiplying unchecked, damage bodily tissue. They can be destroyed by cutting off their life-support systems. Antibiotics defeat bacterial infections by attacking enzymes within the bacteria, allowing the body's immune system to mop them up. Viruses, however, are parasites incapable of reproducing on their own. They're inactive�that is, until they burrow into a host cell, taking over its functions in order to replicate and thereby destroying the host. Inside the body, they become vulnerable to drugs only after they invade a cell, but any treatment may damage the cell as well. And even when scientists develop an effective vaccine or antiviral agent, viruses can suddenly mutate�potentially becoming deadlier and even tougher to eliminate.

...


And I've got the feeling all along that viruses are simply harder to kill than Bacteria since they enter healthy cells.

Appart from this, you can use MMS in conjunction with a (Croft frequency) Zapper and about 10 minutes after intake of your MMS dose intake some ionic silver, all 3 should produce dramatically increased results over just solely using MMS.

[21_12_2012]

I've finally run out of citric acid to take my MMS with...i had a look on ebay
and was wondering (because i knownothing about chemistry) if anhydrous food grade
citric acid is what is needed ?

I cant remember who was selling it now, and cant be bothered to find it again because im rushing off out in a minute, but i think the seller said it can be
used for 'bath bombs' as well..whatever they are.

?? Anyone

[remium]

I've finally run out of citric acid to take my MMS with...i had a look on ebay
and was wondering (because i knownothing about chemistry) if anhydrous food grade
citric acid is what is needed ?

I cant remember who was selling it now, and cant be bothered to find it again because im rushing off out in a minute, but i think the seller said it can be
used for 'bath bombs' as well..whatever they are.

is 99.9 percent citric acid (food grade) in powder form (anhydrous/waterfree)

so yea its fine to mix up as a solution. :)

[21_12_2012]

is 99.9 percent citric acid (food grade) in powder form (anhydrous/waterfree)

so yea its fine to mix up as a solution. :)

Thanks for the reply. I will go ahead and buy some today.

[manit]

?? Anyone

yeah 21 m8 food grade is fine i get mine from here A& R products 01233 740421 900 grams critric acid think it cost me £10.00 inc del ive not took mms now for months because it made me sick every time and thats very small doses i hit a one time 15 x 3 once that was it since then max was about 3 drops a day and that was bad to keep down i had to stop using the stuff my body just rejected the stuff so that was many months a go just listern to ya body had sore throat mms didnt do a thing for it i am not buying anymore of the stuff i still have about a 1LB bag of sodium chlorite and Critric acid i have mixed one batch of it and that was a 100mg bummer.........so if ya need any give us a shout m8:(

[wobbler]

Apparently you can now buy 2 larger size bottles that spray the doses, one spray of each, making it much simpler...

UK Supplier
http://makemms.blogspot.com/2008/08/making-your-own-mms.html

[21_12_2012]

yeah 21 m8 food grade is fine i get mine from here A& R products 01233 740421 900 grams critric acid think it cost me £10.00 inc del ive not took mms now for months because it made me sick every time and thats very small doses i hit a one time 15 x 3 once that was it since then max was about 3 drops a day and that was bad to keep down i had to stop using the stuff my body just rejected the stuff so that was many months a go just listern to ya body had sore throat mms didnt do a thing for it i am not buying anymore of the stuff i still have about a 1LB bag of sodium chlorite and Critric acid i have mixed one batch of it and that was a 100mg bummer.........so if ya need any give us a shout m8:(

Hey sorry to hear that mate. I was only thinking about you yesterday as well,
and was going to ask how you were going on with the MMS.

Ive got to admit, when i got up to like 10 drops, i wasn't liking it at all.
I still dont...ive had a break for the last few days actually. I was up to
about 15 drops twice a day...that lasted about a week, and i wasnt enjoying
drinking it at all. I was putting it in pure apple juice, but i could taste it for hours after
and felt kind of sick for hours too.

But i will carry on next week, just for a week or 2, at 15 drops twice a day....
then i'll probably chill out after that, just a few drops a week maybe.

It has sorted me for lots of things though. But the taste is horrendous.
Anyway, cheers for the offer of the MMS, ive still got half of mine left, itll
last me months yet, but if i need some i'll get in touch.
All the best mate

[lostinstrangeworld]

I think MMS helped a lot with that flu virus I caught recently. I had it very mild, when someone close to me who wasn't taking it had it much more severe.

I tend to do 5 drops a time, I took about 3 doses a day.

[21_12_2012]

I think MMS helped a lot with that flu virus I caught recently. I had it very mild, when someone close to me who wasn't taking it had it much more severe.

Same here. I'm usually ill for weeks when i get a virus.
My virus was totally gone within a few days, just had 2 bad days, then it disappeared completely, but returned for a couple of days mildly.

It definately is good for virus's.

[nongeekywebdude]

Hi
I am really confused about the MMS + Vitamin C thing. I always believed that high doses of Vitamin C were beneficial to building up body immunity to protect against virus/flu etc, exactly the same sort of protection that MMS seems to provide, yet it seems you cannot take Vitamin C while taking MMS?

So is MMS a temp treatment for a few weeks until body is "cleared" of nasties, then to be used perhaps once every week/fortnight on a maintenance basis?

If not I cant see how you can take MMS on a long term basis as you would not be able to take Vitamin C which is highly recommended by many experts that I respect.

In fact Dr. James Hutton recommends 1 gram of Vitamin C every waking hour for immune protection, yet also highly recommends Hydrogen peroxide (similar to MMS) treatment for infections and viruses etc, although he was doing it with the blood not orally?

Its so confusing!!!! I wish we had a decent medical profession so all these treatments could be evaluated and the results published without editing or censorship so we could make informed decisions. As it stands even if we take some of these alternative therapies we may be reducing their effectiveness or even harming ourselves due to combining supplements/treatments ( i.e. MMS + Vitamin C)

[ex sheep]

Hi
I am really confused about the MMS + Vitamin C thing. I always believed that high doses of Vitamin C were beneficial to building up body immunity to protect against virus/flu etc, exactly the same sort of protection that MMS seems to provide, yet it seems you cannot take Vitamin C while taking MMS?

So is MMS a temp treatment for a few weeks until body is "cleared" of nasties, then to be used perhaps once every week/fortnight on a maintenance basis?

If not I cant see how you can take MMS on a long term basis as you would not be able to take Vitamin C which is highly recommended by many experts that I respect.

In fact Dr. James Hutton recommends 1 gram of Vitamin C every waking hour for immune protection, yet also highly recommends Hydrogen peroxide (similar to MMS) treatment for infections and viruses etc, although he was doing it with the blood not orally?

Its so confusing!!!! I wish we had a decent medical profession so all these treatments could be evaluated and the results published without editing or censorship so we could make informed decisions. As it stands even if we take some of these alternative therapies we may be reducing their effectiveness or even harming ourselves due to combining supplements/treatments ( i.e. MMS + Vitamin C)

You can take vit c a few hours after your dose of MMS, some say 3 some say 4 hrs.
Not to be taken with vit c because it stops it from working.
Hope this helps

[halebox]

yeah 21 m8 food grade is fine i get mine from here A& R products 01233 740421 900 grams critric acid think it cost me £10.00 inc del ive not took mms now for months because it made me sick every time and thats very small doses i hit a one time 15 x 3 once that was it since then max was about 3 drops a day and that was bad to keep down i had to stop using the stuff my body just rejected the stuff so that was many months a go just listern to ya body had sore throat mms didnt do a thing for it i am not buying anymore of the stuff i still have about a 1LB bag of sodium chlorite and Critric acid i have mixed one batch of it and that was a 100mg bummer.........so if ya need any give us a shout m8:(
Sore throat is one of the reactions to MMS. I had a sore throat for a month when I was on the stuff.

[cruise4]

I haven't had the 'sore throat' thing. Are you sure you didn't just have some throat infection and the soreness was it clearing up?

Colloidal silver sprayed around the mouth and throat is a good one for teeth and throat soreness. But don't use it with MMS generally as the MMS attempts to detox the silver. DMSO is great for getting at muscle pulls but it seems to treat the symptom rather than outright reduce the recovery time. I haven't tried DMSO and MMS mixed yet.

All in all this seems to be very good stuff all round. I'm on 3 drops twice a day at the moment whilst this flu thing is so uncertain. I don't take anything unless there's a good reason so maintainence drops constantly is not on the agenda.

[21_12_2012]

I just hammered another virus, this time it took just over 1 day.

The viral symptoms started yesterday morning, sore throat, sneezing, slight aching,
tiredness / heaviness, heavy chest.
I took 10 drops three times yesterday, and today (this afternoon) the symptoms have disappeared.
I havent had any MMS yet today but i will take 10 drops twice just to be sure
the virus is dead.

I'm very pleased with it.

[da1reppinqnz]

im about to purchase me some of this...

[cruise4]

The stuff I made myself was a lot yellower than the MMS I bought as bottles. The Citric Acid crystals were a lot whiter too. Everything reacts OK when I tested with Chlorine strips and no harmful effects. I used steam distilled water and heated water when mixing. It was quite cloudy and I let it settle overnight before decanting into green bottles minus the collected detritus at the bottom. I reckon I've got some good and clean stuff now. I weighed everything, not measured. I've found glass stirring rods do not exist on the high street!

What are others experiences of making their own?

[ex sheep]

The stuff I made myself was a lot yellower than the MMS I bought as bottles. The Citric Acid crystals were a lot whiter too. Everything reacts OK when I tested with Chlorine strips and no harmful effects. I used steam distilled water and heated water when mixing. It was quite cloudy and I let it settle overnight before decanting into green bottles minus the collected detritus at the bottom. I reckon I've got some good and clean stuff now. I weighed everything, not measured. I've found glass stirring rods do not exist on the high street!

What are others experiences of making their own?

I make my own too and same as you except the yellow don't show until I've mixed them together.

[cruise4]

The yellow doesn't show until activated... yes. Was yours cloudy initially?

[ex sheep]

The yellow doesn't show until activated... yes. Was yours cloudy initially?

yes, and there is a residue lying on the bottom, I chucked the first batch out because of this, I thought I had mucked the first batch up, but no, the second one was the same.

[cruise4]

HaHa... makes great weed killer doesn't it :D Me too!

[lupa]

after a week of constant pain in my tooth the mms has dealt with it. no more pain and no more pain killers. however i believe that mms is not good on the dental cement used in crowns so if you have crowns i would not use mms as a mouthwash because your crowns could fall out.

[thomas00]

Hi.

I have suffered for the last year of extreme tirednees in my body, i dont have the strenght to do execise, my energy level is only 50% of my normal engery level. For somemonth i think i may suffer from CFS. I have now been taking mms since the midle of june. im up to 15 drops 3 times a day. But sadly i hvent got any improvement, does any one of you reommand anorther dosis of uses the MMS

Thomas

[cruise4]

Check the 3 answers here:
http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=82

What's your diet like? Are you a meateater?

Have you tried Colloidal Silver in the past?

How much electrosmog is around you? (Overhead cables, Mobiles, Computers, Wiring)

Environment issues? (Planes, Cars, Factories)

I'm just interested, not a medic.

[deetox]

Hi.

I have suffered for the last year of extreme tirednees in my body, i dont have the strenght to do execise, my energy level is only 50% of my normal engery level. For somemonth i think i may suffer from CFS. I have now been taking mms since the midle of june. im up to 15 drops 3 times a day. But sadly i hvent got any improvement, does any one of you reommand anorther dosis of uses the MMS

Thomas

This sounds exactly like how I used to be. It turned out to be Vitamin B-12 deficiency. I started using this B-12 spray and ever since my energy levels have been extremely high.

http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-b12-spray/

[thomas00]

Hi Cruise 4.

Thank you for your reply. I have visiting the page you linked to me before, and i couldnt fine a precise answer to CFS.

My diet is based on meat.

Yes have taking Colloidal Silver but only for 1 month.

I live in a big city, so there is pretty much electrosmog everywhere.

Hi Deetox

I take exstra B vitamin suppliment as pill, which include 100 micro gram of B12, as i can se is 10.000 more than recommanded, can you tell me if this B12 spray is more powefull than B vitamin in pill form.


Thomas

[margaretr]

I am curing my CFS using a regime of vitamin and mineral therapy based around Jarrow Methyl B12 lozenges dissolved slowly between gum and lip.
When looking for my cure I found excellent info here-
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/articles.cfm?subject=Fatigue

Pills swallowed are not as effective as absorption

please consider signing my petition
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/

[thomas00]

Hi margretr

Thank you for your link, Can tell me where to look precisely on drmyhill´s homepage due to your vitamin cure. yes i sign your petition. So it seems like that B12 vitamin plays a big part of the fatique. I have already ordere oral B12 vitamin spray from mercola.com, know i hope that i get it. Because the Danish law can be streect when it is due to importing nutrition.

[margaretr]

Hi margretr

Thank you for your link, Can tell me where to look precisely on drmyhill´s homepage due to your vitamin cure. yes i sign your petition. So it seems like that B12 vitamin plays a big part of the fatique. I have already ordere oral B12 vitamin spray from mercola.com, know i hope that i get it. Because the Danish law can be streect when it is due to importing nutrition.

The link I gave provides links to all her webpages relating to CFS.
This page gives a link access to her free downloadable book which includes the advice about food supplements.
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=362
and this page details the supplements
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=216

[thomas00]

Thank you im already begun reading the book:-)

[thirdwave]

i notice some people are taking it all the time... is this wise?

should it not just be used for when you are feeling ill or in need of it?

I just took my first 2 drops as I feel a cold coming on... and I will take another 3 in an hour and see how i do...

[coco]

Many thanks to MargaretR's B-12 recommendation. While I'm not a vegetarian or have a debilitating illness, I considered what you mentioned on another thread about folks experiencing 'cloudy mindedness'. I take a multi vitamin supplement daily but wondered if B-12 could improve my memory and mental sharpness. I've been supplementing with B-12 pills for almost a month - I know you suggested the lozenges - and I have noticed a sharper, faster operating mind reminiscent of past days.

I didn't really know where to find the lozenges in a local store but after I bought the pills I found them online. After I exhaust the pills I will try the lozenges.

Thank you again and I wish you continued improvement. :)

[21_12_2012]

i notice some people are taking it all the time... is this wise?

should it not just be used for when you are feeling ill or in need of it?

I just took my first 2 drops as I feel a cold coming on... and I will take another 3 in an hour and see how i do...

From what i've read, it's a 3 month programme, increasing drops up to 15 twice
a day (some people recommend less than 15, but Humble says 15)

After that, he recommends a 'maintenance dose' of (i think) 6 drops a week
(or 6 drops every other day, cant remember now)

6 drops isn't much at all, i think that is recommended to 'stay on top' of things,
as a general on-going detox, and to fight off bacteria/virus's etc.

Breaks are recommended during the 3 month programme, for the odd day or 2.

I've had quite a few breaks during my 3 months on it, and now, at the end, im
finding 10 drops is about the maximum i can take without it being 'uncomfortable'
to taste etc.

I do 10 drops usually twice or 3 times a day, but in a few days i think my 3 months
has passed, and ill probably do just a few drops a day.

[thirdwave]

From what i've read, it's a 3 month programme, increasing drops up to 15 twice
a day (some people recommend less than 15, but Humble says 15)

After that, he recommends a 'maintenance dose' of (i think) 6 drops a week
(or 6 drops every other day, cant remember now)

6 drops isn't much at all, i think that is recommended to 'stay on top' of things,
as a general on-going detox, and to fight off bacteria/virus's etc.

Breaks are recommended during the 3 month programme, for the odd day or 2.

I've had quite a few breaks during my 3 months on it, and now, at the end, im
finding 10 drops is about the maximum i can take without it being 'uncomfortable'
to taste etc.

I do 10 drops usually twice or 3 times a day, but in a few days i think my 3 months
has passed, and ill probably do just a few drops a day.

thanks

well I just done 5 drops in two hits, with an hour gap, to see if it will shake off my dry throat... dont it with some vinegar... so will see how i feel tomorrow i guess...

[coco]

:)

[thirdwave]

Well I had a dry throat and was feeling run down, thought i was coming down with something...

Either I got some rest and felt better, or the fact I took 2 drops of MMS with vinegar... and an hour later took three drops.

The next day I was certainly no worse and by the evening I was better...

would 5 drops do that?

[rynath]

would 5 drops do that?

This pathogen killer is very effective even at low dose amounts. It would not surprise me in the least that a few drops knocked out a virus that you were fighting. My mom suffered from sinusitis her entire life and the MMS knocked it clear out of her within a day of starting the treatment. She noticed it draining and clearing that very night. I've been through the entire regiment, came out the other side with a maintenance amount and now I just pop a few drops whenever I feel something coming on. It is potent even in small amounts.

I found these results very interesting. Let's think about this for a moment. A person suffers from an ongoing infection their entire life. Every doctor that comes across this fails at treatment with antibiotics. 20 bucks and a few drops later this infection is killed...after waiting decades for relief of any kind. Those are some effective results even at the most basic level :)

[thirdwave]

This pathogen killer is very effective even at low dose amounts. It would not surprise me in the least that a few drops knocked out a virus that you were fighting. My mom suffered from sinusitis her entire life and the MMS knocked it clear out of her within a day of starting the treatment. She noticed it draining and clearing that very night. I've been through the entire regiment, came out the other side with a maintenance amount and now I just pop a few drops whenever I feel something coming on. It is potent even in small amounts.

I found these results very interesting. Let's think about this for a moment. A person suffers from an ongoing infection their entire life. Every doctor that comes across this fails at treatment with antibiotics. 20 bucks and a few drops later this infection is killed...after waiting decades for relief of any kind. Those are some effective results even at the most basic level :)


Yeah well i have had after effects like an itchy throat and stuff.. so it was defo something....

I think it must have worked.

I did use vinegar and now my citrus thing.. as I did not know if you could use normal mineral water to mix it... as it said to use purified water?...

[rynath]

Yeah well i have had after effects like an itchy throat and stuff.. so it was defo something....

I think it must have worked.

I did use vinegar and now my citrus thing.. as I did not know if you could use normal mineral water to mix it... as it said to use purified water?...

I use a 1:1 ratio of MMS and the citric acid activator from here:
http://mms-lab.com/

That way there is no guessing with the acid part...it's always a 1:1 drop ratio. As far as what you mix it with...I use apple juice with no vitamin C. I've used water ONCE to mix this with and it tasted pretty awful so I switched to the juice which works wonders.

As far as mixing it with certain types of water...I'm not so sure it matters. I mean this chemical IS a water purifier to begin with. As long as you are not canceling the reaction with vitamin C it should be plenty effective.

Do not take my word on the mineral water though. I have not used mineral water nor have I researched mixing MMS with mineral water. This is something you may have to research further.

Edit: The itchy throat is probably from the chemical itself as you down it. I can see where the fumes can dry your throat out. The only real side effects I had from the MMS was passing all of the leftover garbage out of my body. It can be taxing at times on the toilet, no doubt about that. It is up to the individual to find a happy balance between dosage and feeling normal.

[thirdwave]

I use a 1:1 ratio of MMS and the citric acid activator from here:
http://mms-lab.com/

That way there is no guessing with the acid part...it's always a 1:1 drop ratio. As far as what you mix it with...I use apple juice with no vitamin C. I've used water ONCE to mix this with and it tasted pretty awful so I switched to the juice which works wonders.

As far as mixing it with certain types of water...I'm not so sure it matters. I mean this chemical IS a water purifier to begin with. As long as you are not canceling the reaction with vitamin C it should be plenty effective.

Do not take my word on the mineral water though. I have not used mineral water nor have I researched mixing MMS with mineral water. This is something you may have to research further.

Edit: The itchy throat is probably from the chemical itself as you down it. I can see where the fumes can dry your throat out. The only real side effects I had from the MMS was passing all of the leftover garbage out of my body. It can be taxing at times on the toilet, no doubt about that. It is up to the individual to find a happy balance between dosage and feeling normal.

thanks for the info!

I mean when preparing the citric stuff you buy with it... when you mix that with water, does that water need to be pure.. but I think you have still answered my questions.. it should not matter really...

[rynath]

thanks for the info!

I mean when preparing the citric stuff you buy with it... when you mix that with water, does that water need to be pure.. but I think you have still answered my questions.. it should not matter really...

I mix the acid with the MMS in drop form (however much the dose may be), then I let it sit for the 3 full minutes to let the reaction take place. After the 3 minutes I add some apple juice, give it a few stirs and down it.

If you are preparing the acid part in a different way, it may depend on the place you bought it from? I can only speak of the 1:1 drop ratio I've been using from the mmslab site posted above.

[cruise4]

I use steam distilled water for the Citric Acid. With 28% MMS solution and 10% Citric Acid Solution it's 5 drops of Citric to one drop of MMS. Could you clarify this statement Rynath...

That way there is no guessing with the acid part...it's always a 1:1 drop ratio

It seems to me it's NEVER a 1:1 ratio UNLESS the MMS has been mixed up to be deliberately weak, the citric is made deliberately strong (questionable assumption there), or you are altering the protocol for experimentation reasons?

[rynath]

I use steam distilled water for the Citric Acid. With 28% MMS solution and 10% Citric Acid Solution it's 5 drops of Citric to one drop of MMS. Could you clarify this statement Rynath...

That way there is no guessing with the acid part...it's always a 1:1 drop ratio

It seems to me it's NEVER a 1:1 ratio UNLESS the MMS has been mixed up to be deliberately weak, the citric is made deliberately strong (questionable assumption there), or you are altering the protocol for experimentation reasons?

I can clarify this further. The 1:1 system I'm using is from here: http://mms-lab.com/products/mms-products/mms-1-1-system.html

NOTE: This is a 50% citric acid solution which mixes 1 drop for every 1 drop of MMS in equal parts. 1:1 ratio. The premixed 50% citric acid solution is ready to use.

Again, I can only speak for this 1:1 system I'm using from this site.

[da1reppinqnz]

Alrighttt look ..im planning on buying some mms..... I need to know from an honest person.. Should i buy this... Is this product not a scam?.... Cmon give me some advice here.. Id ont wanna die taking it

[da1reppinqnz]

and where should i purchase it from?

[rynath]

Alrighttt look ..im planning on buying some mms..... I need to know from an honest person.. Should i buy this... Is this product not a scam?.... Cmon give me some advice here.. Id ont wanna die taking it

If I hadn't seen my mom's sinus infection clear in one night and my digestion problems didn't go away I'd be skeptical as well. The only reason I'm posting on this thread is because I've seen positive results. I'm not saying everyone needs to go out and buy MMS. What I am saying is if you have viruses or infections that you can't kick, even with antibiotics, the MMS is made to kill them.

Keep in mind that this isn't a wonder elixir from the wild west. It is chemistry. The MMS solution mixed with a citric acid activator creates chlorine dioxide. Chlorine dioxide is a potent pathogen killer. If taken properly (please follow directions from whatever site you go with), it can kill these pathogens outright. Always start slow with a small amount and work your way up. The amount of garbage you pass out of your body will probably determine the pace at which you proceed.

and where should i purchase it from?

I got mine from here for simplicity reasons: http://mms-lab.com/products/mms-products/mms-1-1-system.html
but now I see the price has gone up. You shouldn't have to pay more than 20 bucks for this. Does anyone else have some trusted sites that still have it priced accordingly?

[da1reppinqnz]

thx for that.. my mind is made up im gunna purchase right now.... im getting from this website... seems right..http://www.mmshealthy4life.com/purchase-mms.html

[da1reppinqnz]

Purchased!!!! I will definitly keep the details posted.. I cnt wait to try it

[rynath]

Purchased!!!! I will definitly keep the details posted.. I cnt wait to try it

I'd say the more input the better so that's great :)

I can tell you this, I'm glad I've got a few bottles in the fridge. I would rather be with than without at this point.

[cruise4]

NOTE: This is a 50% citric acid solution which mixes 1 drop for every 1 drop of MMS in equal parts. 1:1 ratio. The premixed 50% citric acid solution is ready to use.

Thanks rynath. I wonder what variation there is between, say, 50% and 80% citric compared to 10%? Maybe the activation process varies? Just wondering. I doubt there's an answer just yet.

[21_12_2012]

yeah 21 m8 food grade is fine i get mine from here A& R products 01233 740421 900 grams critric acid think it cost me £10.00 inc del ive not took mms now for months because it made me sick every time and thats very small doses i hit a one time 15 x 3 once that was it since then max was about 3 drops a day and that was bad to keep down i had to stop using the stuff my body just rejected the stuff so that was many months a go just listern to ya body had sore throat mms didnt do a thing for it i am not buying anymore of the stuff i still have about a 1LB bag of sodium chlorite and Critric acid i have mixed one batch of it and that was a 100mg bummer.........so if ya need any give us a shout m8:(

I sent you a private message a few days ago, I don't know if you still get on the forum or not. If you do, log in and check your PM mate.
Cheers

[leondra]

I have been taking MMS for two years now due to pre cancerous cells and I am glad to say that I no longer have the cells.

I have purchased mms from several suppliers and can advise anyone needing information on mms or the suppliers.

I can tell you that if the supplier is not approved by Jim Humble you should steer clear as there are many (unfortunately) making mms in their garages without testing the mixture properly (they are out to make a fast buck without regards to anyone's health). The mms craze has had many money hungry people jumping at the opportunity.

The only tested and approved by Jim Humble suppliers are listed at Jim Humble's site under suppliers. His correct site is: miraclemineral.org

Unfortunately in the beginning I have purchased some of the cheaper mms and found that cheap is just that, cheap. There are some strange mixtures out there.

If anyone is in need of information on how to take mms or who I recommend as a supplier just ask.

Jim has just recently come out with a new mms protocol which is proven more beneficial then the old one.

In light,
Leondra

[21_12_2012]

I have been taking MMS for two years now due to pre cancerous cells and I am glad to say that I no longer have the cells.

I have purchased mms from several suppliers and can advise anyone needing information on mms or the suppliers.

I can tell you that if the supplier is not approved by Jim Humble you should steer clear as there are many (unfortunately) making mms in their garages without testing the mixture properly (they are out to make a fast buck without regards to anyone's health). The mms craze has had many money hungry people jumping at the opportunity.

The only tested and approved by Jim Humble suppliers are listed at Jim Humble's site under suppliers. His correct site is: miraclemineral.org

Unfortunately in the beginning I have purchased some of the cheaper mms and found that cheap is just that, cheap. There are some strange mixtures out there.

If anyone is in need of information on how to take mms or who I recommend as a supplier just ask.

Jim has just recently come out with a new mms protocol which is proven more beneficial then the old one.

In light,
Leondra

Excellent news about your cells normalising. And welcome to the forum.

Have you seen this site before:- http://makemms.blogspot.com/2008/08/making-your-own-mms.html

I would like to make my own MMS, and that site seems ideal for the kit they
offer.
Have you ever used them before for anything ?

[lupa]

just thought id post about the cold that i caught the other day..don't know why it bothered to be honest ..hardly a cold lol. nose full of goo and my lungs were gargling every time I took a breath or moved. but I think the mms took the edge off it because i've not had that foggy head like you would with regular head cold. i've been full of beans actually never felt better lol. last night i did a bath with mms in and let the steam get in to my lungs, I feel a lot better today.

I was doing 4 drops every 4 hours and it's definitely helped with dealing with it. had the cold for 3 days and it's about vanished now. i'm going to do the steam bath again today as i still have a little goo on my lungs but my nose is totally clear.

[lupa]

I have been taking MMS for two years now due to pre cancerous cells and I am glad to say that I no longer have the cells.

I have purchased mms from several suppliers and can advise anyone needing information on mms or the suppliers.

I can tell you that if the supplier is not approved by Jim Humble you should steer clear as there are many (unfortunately) making mms in their garages without testing the mixture properly (they are out to make a fast buck without regards to anyone's health). The mms craze has had many money hungry people jumping at the opportunity.

The only tested and approved by Jim Humble suppliers are listed at Jim Humble's site under suppliers. His correct site is: miraclemineral.org

Unfortunately in the beginning I have purchased some of the cheaper mms and found that cheap is just that, cheap. There are some strange mixtures out there.

If anyone is in need of information on how to take mms or who I recommend as a supplier just ask.

Jim has just recently come out with a new mms protocol which is proven more beneficial then the old one.

In light,
Leondra

that's wonderful news Leondra :)

[leondra]

Excellent news about your cells normalising. And welcome to the forum.

Have you seen this site before:- http://makemms.blogspot.com/2008/08/making-your-own-mms.html

I would like to make my own MMS, and that site seems ideal for the kit they
offer.
Have you ever used them before for anything ?

Thank you.

I have not seen that site before. If they are not listed with Jim as a supplier that means that their products have not been tested by Jim for the correct formula.

The sodium chlorite powder can be purchased from a lab in the US and Overseas. The correct formula has a weight of 122grams (give or take one point either way as Jim says) per 100ml. So if you have a good scale you could at least test it by weight.

In Light,
Leondra

[leondra]

Another thing to keep in mind is that soon the powers that be (FDA, Big Pharma, DOT, etc.) will catch on to this treatment and shut it down. Especially the ones that are making claims about cures on their websites. Jim is predicting this to happen by the end of this year.

Hopefully the ones that are following the rules will survive and continue to help people in need.

In light,
Leondra

[lupa]

Thank you.

I have not seen that site before. If they are not listed with Jim as a supplier that means that their products have not been tested by Jim for the correct formula.

The sodium chlorite powder can be purchased from a lab in the US and Overseas. The correct formula has a weight of 122grams (give or take one point either way as Jim says) per 100ml. So if you have a good scale you could at least test it by weight.

In Light,
Leondra

that is the site where I purchased my sodium chlorite from leondra.

[21_12_2012]

Thank you.

I have not seen that site before. If they are not listed with Jim as a supplier that means that their products have not been tested by Jim for the correct formula.

The sodium chlorite powder can be purchased from a lab in the US and Overseas. The correct formula has a weight of 122grams (give or take one point either way as Jim says) per 100ml. So if you have a good scale you could at least test it by weight.

In Light,
Leondra

Thanks for the info.
Do you by chance happen to know the name of the place in the States where
to get the proper sodium chlorite powder from ?

I am more than happy with the MMS i bought 'ready made' from one of Jim
Humble's 'affiliated' websites, however, I want to stockpile in preparation for
the next few years really, for me and my family, and buying the kit seems
and ideal way to do it.

that is the site where I purchased my sodium chlorite from leondra.

Thanks Lupa, it sounds like i will probably buy this kit in the next few days.
Did you get the kit with or without the book ? Is the book needed i wonder. ?

[leondra]

There are not any US suppliers selling the sodium chlorite powder but you can get it here: http://www.gfschemicals.com/search_prm_p.aspx?whichsearch=EntireSite&searchcontent=sodium%20chlorite

There are also a few other chemical companies you can get it from. Some of them require a business license and business address to buy from.

If you want testing done on your mms I am pretty sure that mms lab does testing.

As long as the formula is yellow in color (not green) and weighs 122grams at 100ml you have the right formula.

In Light,
Leondra

[lupa]

Thanks for the info.
Do you by chance happen to know the name of the place in the States where
to get the proper sodium chlorite powder from ?

I am more than happy with the MMS i bought 'ready made' from one of Jim
Humble's 'affiliated' websites, however, I want to stockpile in preparation for
the next few years really, for me and my family, and buying the kit seems
and ideal way to do it.



Thanks Lupa, it sounds like i will probably buy this kit in the next few days.
Did you get the kit with or without the book ? Is the book needed i wonder. ?

I had the book too. it's a really good read actually :)

[cruise4]

Agency is trying to take MMS off the market...

I just got a desperate letter from Jim Humble the discoverer of MMS stating that "sorry, buy my name and my picture must be removed from all sites selling mms in any form. All of the jim humble approval stamps must be removed from every site selling mms."

He furthur states, "This must happen immediately. Any time the attack comes if my approval is on any sales site that can be used to put me in jail. This is true in most countries as well as the united states, especially in europe. Please comply with this. It is important. This must be done immediately. Taking my name off of your site will also keep you out of jail.

"I appreciate your help in bringing mms to the world. Now is the time to change mms to nothing but water purification drops. My sites will remain in place so that people can use them. They don't lead people to other sales sites. When the time comes the authorities must see nothing but mms water purification drops. We will have to depend upon my book, radio, tv, youtube, and other internet articles to tell what mms really is.

"One other point, anywhere on your site where the word supplement is used it should be changed to the word "solution", the reason for that is the FDA objects to the word supplement, that begins to neutralize our sites. Is for your protection." End of announcement!

What does this mean?

Does this mean that from now on MMS will be called Water Purification Drops - only? Does this mean that MMS had damaged someone and there is a complaint? Does this mean that the MMS is helping people purify the water in their boddies and therefore no longer need the high priced drugs, poisons and orerations?

I understand that the FDA has ordered Amazon books to stop selling the Jim Humble MMS book if it is sold along with the MMS product.

Also according to the FDA the word "solution" is not a good word to use either. Maybe the word "drops" or the word "liquid" might be better.

All sellers of MMS are now asked to call their product "Water Purification Drops"

For additional articles and information on "Water Purification Drops" search the Internet for chlorine dioxide

http://hubpages.com/hub/Jim-Humble-Is-Going-To-Jail

[21_12_2012]

There are not any US suppliers selling the sodium chlorite powder but you can get it here: http://www.gfschemicals.com/search_prm_p.aspx?whichsearch=EntireSite&searchcontent=sodium%20chlorite

There are also a few other chemical companies you can get it from. Some of them require a business license and business address to buy from.

If you want testing done on your mms I am pretty sure that mms lab does testing.

As long as the formula is yellow in color (not green) and weighs 122grams at 100ml you have the right formula.

In Light,
Leondra

Thanks for that info. I have emailed them.

I had the book too. it's a really good read actually

Cheers, I think I will get the book with it too.

[leondra]

Agency is trying to take MMS off the market...

I just got a desperate letter from Jim Humble the discoverer of MMS stating that "sorry, buy my name and my picture must be removed from all sites selling mms in any form. All of the jim humble approval stamps must be removed from every site selling mms."

He furthur states, "This must happen immediately. Any time the attack comes if my approval is on any sales site that can be used to put me in jail. This is true in most countries as well as the united states, especially in europe. Please comply with this. It is important. This must be done immediately. Taking my name off of your site will also keep you out of jail.

"I appreciate your help in bringing mms to the world. Now is the time to change mms to nothing but water purification drops. My sites will remain in place so that people can use them. They don't lead people to other sales sites. When the time comes the authorities must see nothing but mms water purification drops. We will have to depend upon my book, radio, tv, youtube, and other internet articles to tell what mms really is.

"One other point, anywhere on your site where the word supplement is used it should be changed to the word "solution", the reason for that is the FDA objects to the word supplement, that begins to neutralize our sites. Is for your protection." End of announcement!

What does this mean?

Does this mean that from now on MMS will be called Water Purification Drops - only? Does this mean that MMS had damaged someone and there is a complaint? Does this mean that the MMS is helping people purify the water in their boddies and therefore no longer need the high priced drugs, poisons and orerations?

I understand that the FDA has ordered Amazon books to stop selling the Jim Humble MMS book if it is sold along with the MMS product.

Also according to the FDA the word "solution" is not a good word to use either. Maybe the word "drops" or the word "liquid" might be better.

All sellers of MMS are now asked to call their product "Water Purification Drops"

For additional articles and information on "Water Purification Drops" search the Internet for chlorine dioxide

http://hubpages.com/hub/Jim-Humble-Is-Going-To-Jail

This is nothing new. It has been that way for the last 6 months. A lot of people selling are not complying with Jim's request. They are not complying because they do not care and they just want to make money, unfortunately. With most suppliers you will receive a product labeled as only water purification drops. No instructions for personal use. Make sure you know Jim's sites so you get correct protocol information.

Next there will be problems with the shipping through the Mail. DOT regulations (worldwide) prohibit shipping mms by air unless you have a hazmat license and label the package as such. mms is not allowed to ship through the US mail. MMS must go by ground transportation unless you have the proper license. I only know of one supplier that is complying with this also. Hopefully there will be a few that survive this for future use.

There was a supplier out of California that was shut down for this and had hefty fines to pay.


In Light,
Leondra

[da1reppinqnz]

ive been taking mms for about a week now.. im at 5 drops twice a day .. nothing really has been happening.. besides i think i get apain in my left arm .. like it has been punched or sumthing.. that was just one day though i could just be wrong.. plus.. i have asthma and maybe im just paranoid but my chest is really tight at times... ive had no diarea no vomiting nothing really at all. but i am feeling good thought... perhaps better since i ve been taking it.. but hwo knows..

[aabutaleb]

I just received my MMS. I will start using it the coming week.

I have read all the posts and thanks for all people who share with us their journey :)

I want to know how people use it for teeth and gum. I already read the protocol in Jim's website but I want to know how long the solution last after you adds water for teeth treatment?

I will post my journey for people information.

[da1reppinqnz]

how come there is nomore posts goin on.. any affects that wanna be shared?

[xpleet]

how come there is nomore posts goin on.. any affects that wanna be shared?

Had a sore mouth couple days ago so I decided to crush it using MMS.

So I took 3 cotton sticks, wet them in MMS, and applied them for like 10 minutes.
A day later the infected area was half sized and a day after that it was completly gone.


Years ago I once used anti-biotics and little to no success after a week of using it and then a couple weeks later it even came back.

[aabutaleb]

Yesterday (Friday) I got a hard Flu with high fever. I decide to have only MMS with the flu protocol in Humble's website.

with only 14 hours the fever is gone and I'm fine today :)

I think this is great ...

[zenfood]

Hello,

here is some interesting information about the possible side effects of MMS:

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1459447

From my research, one should keep in check his Glutathione levels by supplementing with either glutathione or NAC during their MMS protocol, and probably also before and after. Glutathione of the main detoxifier of the body and is needed to get right of toxins and heavy metals. I suspect that if one had very low glutathione levels his side effects for MMS will be greater and MMS will be less effective...

Ive personally used MMS for a couple months now (on and off) and it did a great job to help me get rid of my candida overgrowth. (also btw heres a fun candida saliva test you can do : http://www.ninazu.com/tests1.html )

I agree with the approach of using MMS as much as needed, but as little as possible.

And dont forget the basics of detoxifying and dont put all your expectations on stuff like MMS, we also need proper nutritionnal support if we want to achieve great health; lots or raw organic fruits and vegetables, good supplements if needed, avoiding toxic 'food', etc.


Lots of light,

MAX

[xpleet]

Sticky please


Introducing Miracle Mineral Solution Two

by Jim Humble, August 15, 2009


A new Miracle Mineral is being introduced here. It should have all the fanfare of one of the most important medicines that has ever been introduced to mankind. Unfortunately we inventors, as opposed to multibillion dollar research organizations, never have the money for fanfare. We're lucky to scrape together 50 cents to buy an envelope to mail the concept back to ourselves for a cheap inventor's patent protection. So here it is - the announcement of a new miracle mineral - but without much fanfare.

Hypochlorous acid is an acid that the human immune system uses to kill pathogens of all kinds throughout the body, and many other things that sometimes need to be destroyed. For example when killer cells get old and worn out they turn against the body; the immune system recognizes the problem and proceeds to destroy the worn-out cells with hypochlorous acid.

This acid is probably the most important acid the body makes to maintain health. I think that qualifies it to be considered natural. It is a naturally produced acid because the body’s immune system makes it. It’s not manufactured in a chemical plant somewhere. The fact is, hypochlorous acid will kill most pathogens in the body - even the powerful malaria parasite if enough of the acid is present.

However, for whatever reason, Mother Nature did not provide the human body with the means to generate enough hypochlorous acid to kill all the diseases that might enter the body. Maybe making the acid is just too complex to generate large quantities of it that are now required to destroy the powerful "incurable" diseases that have come to be on this planet. In a more perfect world not much of the acid would be needed.

Suppose you were a medical researcher 80 years ago and you were interested in overcoming diseases in the human body, and you were aware of this data - that hypochlorous acid kills disease pathogens. Well, the fact is, this data was known 80 years ago. Don’t you think you would have spent a little bit of time on the idea of how to supply the body with a little more hypochlorous acid? The body has been using hypochlorous acid to kill disease germs for a million years.

Isn’t that a logical idea - that a medical researcher attempting to find cures for diseases, would at least try giving the body a little bit more hypochlorous acid when germs or disease threaten? Well I think it's logical and if medical researchers were attempting to find "cures" for people instead of making costly drugs that keep people back, they would have found this hypochlorous acid miracle cure and many other such cures - long ago.

So any way, the goal here is to describe Miracle Mineral Number Two. It is so far beyond any known medical drug that there is simply no comparison. You can’t compare it with medical drugs as they are not intended to overcome or cure diseases. This MMS2 kills pathogens and actually aids healing. So what is it? As far as an antibiotic is concerned, it kills pathogens instantly by blowing a hole in the skin. It’s not like medical antibiotics which can take from hours to weeks to penetrate the skin of a pathogen, slowly destroying the nucleus or something in the nucleus - if the pathogen hasn't developed resistance. But with MMS2, pathogens that cause diseases of all kinds cannot develop a resistance to hypochlorous acid. The body chose well when it developed the ability to generate hypochlorous acid. Down through the centuries no pathogen has ever developed a resistance to it.

And maybe, just maybe Mother Nature chose well when she made the various deadly diseases, because even though some of them are anaerobic and some are aerobic, none of them are resistant to MMS1 or MMS2 or the combination of 1 and 2. Isn’t that kind of strange? Of course we don’t have the money for research in this area, but many thousands of people have called me or emailed me representing hundreds of different diseases that have been handled with both of these Miracle Minerals.

So what is it that turns into hypochlorous acid that your body can use? Well, there happens to be a very cheap simple chemical that actually turns into this acid. Your body then can take that acid and use it throughout the body. I’ve been using it for 4 years personally. My clinic and group of people in Mexico have been using it for more than a year with many people. I was at first sending it out to people mostly with prostate cancer, but we then started using it on many things including HIV.

What we found out recently is that MMS (now called MMS1) when given to HIV people generally cures all of their health problems associated with the HIV, but it does not cure the HIV in some cases. It is more valuable than the HIV drugs for treating HIV, but it doesn’t kill the HIV virus always, just sometimes.

So enter MMS2. When taken with MMS1, the two together have produced negative blood test readings (basically that means cured) in quite a few HIV cases so far. In fact, all of the cases receiving both MMS1 and 2 have checked negative (free from HIV). We don't have thousands of cases so far and we will produce the necessary case studies when the Foundation and Institute for Advanced MMS Studies is funded. But just to give you an idea, the protocol for HIV has been: three activated drops of MMS1 each hour for at least 8 hours during the day, plus one size zero capsule of MMS2 taken every two hours for eight hours per day - all done continuously for three weeks, then we submit blood to the testing lab. Oh yes, at first drink 2 glasses of water with the MMS2 capsule and then always one full glass of water thereafter with each capsule.

Never make yourself sick, always reduce your intake of both MMS1 and 2 if you notice it is making you more sick than you already are. We have also had some fantastic results with cancers using MMS2. Also for the new flu now going around, use this same protocol for this flu, but not for three weeks, do it until well. Some people will be well in 8 hours and some will take a week or two. Be especially careful to reduce all the way to zero if it seems that the MMS is making you feel worse. But start again very soon.

If you feel worse, that's caused by killing the disease so rapidly that it generates too much poison too fast. Go slower. If you don’t have MMS1 still use MMS2. I have seen enough people cured of enough diseases to believe that if you only have MMS2 it will do the job. Use it in a capsule once an hour. Increase the amount if you can, decrease if you feel worse. You can use it with any medication. The medication does not hurt MMS2 and MMS2 doesn't harm the medication.

Do you see? We should now have such a fantastic medical system that there would at this time be no such thing as disease and very little bad health if our medical system had been controlled by ethical people trying to cure diseases rather than make money.

MMS1 and MMS2 is just a drop in the bucket. Although I believe that MMS1 coupled with MMS2 will cure most of the diseases of mankind, I believe that hundreds of miracle minerals will come that will change the understanding of medicine. In the future no drug will ever be made from poisonous substances that all medical drugs are made from now. MMS1 and MMS2 are not poisonous to the body and they do no damage in the body.

OK, so what is MMS2? What chemical turns to hypochlorous acid in the body? Hold on to your hat. It’s a special type of swimming ----- pool ----- chlorine. Well, that's what everybody calls it - swimming pool chlorine. BUT it is really not chlorine. It's a special agent that is used to "shock" the pool, called CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE.

People are used to being told that you shock a pool with chlorine, but that's not really the scientific facts. It's easy to explain this way. The scientific facts are that no free chlorine is added to the pool. The pool is in fact shocked with hypochlorous acid. A pouch of 78% calcium hypochlorite (about one pound) costs less than $5 dollars in the US. You can buy it at any swimming pool supply store, but not just any pool chlorine. It has to be calcium hypochlorite.

That’s right, when it is put into pool water it instantly changes into hypochlorous acid. It’s not the same as chlorine in water. Not at all. Other chemicals change into chlorine, but not calcium hypochlorite. It changes into HOCl (that’s the chemical formula for hypochlorous acid). It is a combination of hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine. Like table salt it also has chlorine in it, but it reacts far differently than chlorine. MMS1 and MMS2 are made from two of the cheapest mineral substances that we have. MMS1 will cure malaria, the worst disease of mankind, in about 10 hours and for less than 5 cents. MMS2 is similar in cost if not cheaper.

My friend Bill Boynton, who helped me with the chemistry of MMS1 also suggested pool chlorine to me back in 2003. I wondered why the pool chlorine might be beneficial. He and I were using it before we knew what it was. So a bit of simple research turned up the fact that it was hypochlorous acid. Doctors in medical school learn all about hypochlorous acid in their schooling because it is a critical component produced and used by the immune system.

So you see it wasn’t because I was all that smart; it was just that I was looking for opportunities without worrying if I was fitting into a medical groove or not.

Now, let’s look at how we used it. Keep in mind that anything I say here I do not suggest that you go and do. Anything that you do is strictly on your own. I cannot suggest medical things to you. This is simply what we did. Also the "we" that I talk about here is not the same as my friend Bill that I mention above. I do not mention names here to protect the innocent and to keep my friends out of harm’s way. Later when I write my book for posterity I will name all those who helped me and worked with me, however for now, I feel it is best that I don’t.

First, a friend in Canada mentioned in an email that he had a friend who had prostate cancer. I said why not try hypochlorite. He said he would ask his friend and to make a long story short I sent him an envelope of 50 size zero gel capsules stuffed with calcium hypochlorite from a local pool store. (The supply in pool stores is anywhere from 45% calcium hypochlorite to 85%. Most is around 75%. I have used it all from 45% to 55% to 65% to 75% to 80%.

There are always other chemicals in the mixture. The other chemicals are all designed for use in pools so they are not poisonous and most of them are used in foods or processing foods. You only take a tiny bit of the white powder in a size zero capsule and thus you never get more than the recommended daily dose of any of these chemicals. Anyway he took the 50 capsules at about 4 a day and called me up and said that he felt much better but did I have some more as he still wasn’t well. So I sent him 50 more and he finally got back to me saying his prostate cancer was all gone.

So Bill and I sent it out to various people with prostate problems and prostate cancer. When we got word back they all said they felt better or that the problem was completely gone. (These are the ones that got back to me, and only because I begged them. Mostly people don’t get back to us unless they still need more.) I found out that most people who are feeling good won’t go back to a doctor so too often I have to take their word that they are OK.

So there you have MMS2. It is effective for many things and very effective for healing wounds and other skin problems. It aids MMS1 to kill most all so called incurable diseases and it may be as good as MMS1. It kills the pathogens and germs on a wound without doing damage to the broken tissues. Just empty a zero size capsule in a quarter glass of water and use that on the wound. Alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, iodine, and all other disinfectants all do a certain amount of damage to the wound causing increased healing time to the damaged cells, but MMS2 kills the pathogens and does no damage and thus the healing is much faster. There is research about this wound healing factor on the Internet. You can look it up. I hesitate to say more because of copyrights.

I realize, of course, that much more research is needed and I should have done most of that research already, but as you know I have to plead lack of millions of dollars for that research until the Foundation is funded. [ Click Here to visit the Foundation Site ] . I decided that I must release the information as the urgency became greater and greater in my own mind. I can’t afford, Earth can’t afford for me to wait any longer. As it is I have waited 9 months longer than I should, than safety for the data would allow.

Yesterday if the bad guys had taken me to prison or "horizontalized" me, chances are this data would never be known to Earth's people. Now today as of this date this data is released on the Internet. The bad guys will never be able to totally suppress this information. It will always be somewhere and it will eventually become known. Shooting me won’t stop it. They might slow it down a lot, but never stop it.

And in keeping with my policy written in my MMS book at miraclemineral.org I cannot allow this data to be owned by any one individual or group. Like MMS1 it is too important for that. If owned by any one group there would always be those who are left out of the loop. Anyone or everyone can make up MMS2, use it, or sell it, or distribute it for free or whatever.

So this paper has the same copyright as my book exactly. Because of space I won’t quote it completely, but it makes this paper public domain in case of my death or incarceration.

MMS2 is in some ways like gravity. You know it works just by learning the information. Research is not needed to prove that. It’s like gravity and dropping an orange. You open your fingers and the orange drops towards the Earth. You don’t need research to prove it. You might drop an orange once or twice, but it’s obvious. Well MMS2 is the same way for many things.

Chemically it is obvious that hypochlorous acid can kill pathogens as that has already been proven. By the time you have finished studying the data it will be totally obvious what this acid can do. Many nay-sayers are going to find it a little bit more difficult to spread negative information about MMS2.

The negative blog writers, none of them, have any idea what they're chattering about with MMS1. MMS2 will be a lot more available to everyone who chooses to experiment with it, and believe it or not, it is already available in most countries of Africa, all cities of the US, Canada, Europe, and around the world. It is so available that it couldn’t possibly be suppressed throughout the world.
There's just one more point that I would like to make. I have been criticized quite often that I am not specific enough about my data, suggesting I should give details and furnish names and numbers and blood reports of those who have been cured. That would be nice if I could do that. But sorry, that isn’t possible. Do you see? I would be furnishing the evidence to put me in prison. Authorities in many countries would like to do that.

Wouldn’t it be nice for them if I would just say, here guys use this evidence to lock me up. Over the last 100 years more than 100 people have been put in prison and their books burned in the US alone, and some have been killed mysteriously - and many more than that throughout the world.

If you doubt this, just go to "FDA suppression" in Google. Several of my friends have spent time in prison in the US with their business, home, car, bank account, and property all confiscated and never returned in just the last few years. You think I am exaggerating? Well go on the Internet and look up the “Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000 HR1658” and then follow to the records of how much Assets were confiscated during for example one year 2006. More than 6 billion dollars of property were confiscated and auctioned off. More than 3 billion dollars were put into the government coffers as a result of the auctions for that one year.

Just this week it was published that the Federal Drug Administration has the right and the power to state that Mercury is harmless and there should be no concern about taking it into your body through vaccinations. (Dr. Mercola [ Click Here to See it. ] ) The Federal authorities can come and take your property and savings - everything you own and at any time. They don’t have to have a reason and there is nothing you can do to get it back. So I have fair reason to be paranoid. Sorry, about the paranoia. I'm publishing this announcement from within other countries.

Good luck in using MMS2. Don't let the terrifying cautions on the pouch of Calcium Hypochlorite scare you away. I've tested it for years. If you voluntarily and privately prepare MMS2 as suggested here (in size zero capsules only), it's both safe and beneficial - a chemical produced and needed by your own body in limited quantities. Be sure to drink ample water if you experiment with this discovery. I take it myself quite often as a maintenance-preventative strategy.

This announcement is primarily to get the information on the record and out to thousands of people around the world. I can't suggest that you follow and do what I have done. It's the information that's valuable - a key to reducing and reversing illnesses. Thoughtful people will experiment and awaken to what is possible with this widely available Miracle Mineral Solution Number Two.

At age 76 I'm here in a country with impure water, malaria, sleeping sickness, TB, herpes, 40% population with HIV, and I'm in contact with every disease imaginable carried by strangers who knock on my door at night seeking help - and I remain disease free. I'm fully active as this is being written on August 15, 2009.

Jim Humble Somewhere in Africa


http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro.htm

[onourwayto2012]

Amazing!!.... thank you xpleet!

[relax]

RE xpleets post ^^



Cool, anywhere to buy MM1 & MM2 packaged? Im thinking for emergency supplies, hopefully both substances keep for years.

[21_12_2012]

Has anyone bought any Calcium Hypochlorite yet ?
I've had a look on the net and seen a few swimming pool places selling it, but I'm kind of wary about buying from such places.

I'd like to get some as 'pure' as possible.

Any recommendations ?

[kingmob]

how are the results so far guys https://bodybuilderspro.info/customimages/62/1240197088/random.gif

[tvance]

Some of you have been wondering -- just how safe is MMS?

I have been on the chlorine dioxide - MMS for two years and so has my husband. He has recovered from a bad 10 year case of Lyme disease. We've also noticed many other improvements in our bodies as a result of killing off all kinds of germs, bugs, viruses, fungus, etc. Our bodies seem to be much younger as a result of killing off the pathogens. It is a process...

Jim Humble wants us to call it water purification drops now -- it was called that for 70+ years and used by the campers, hiker and in the food processing industry.

[tvance]

I bought some from a swimming pool supplier for $5.00. I made a capsule and it has been sitting on my kitchen counter top for three weeks. I muscle test and my body does NOT want me to take it.

We need some first hand testimonials...
I've taken MMS 1 for two years and have benefited greatly.


Has anyone bought any Calcium Hypochlorite yet ?
I've had a look on the net and seen a few swimming pool places selling it, but I'm kind of wary about buying from such places.

I'd like to get some as 'pure' as possible.

Any recommendations ?

[onourwayto2012]

I bought some from a swimming pool supplier for $5.00. I made a capsule and it has been sitting on my kitchen counter top for three weeks. I muscle test and my body does NOT want me to take it.

We need some first hand testimonials...
I've taken MMS 1 for two years and have benefited greatly.
very interesting tv..... I'm waiting for a report or two from a forum member before I try it..... have you tried it yet?

[ades]

What "biproduct" does MMS make when its done making its job?

Just curious..

[21_12_2012]

What "biproduct" does MMS make when its done making its job?

Just curious..

Salt...a very miniscule amount of salt.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Instructions are in the ebooks.

A link where Part 1 of the ebook can be downloaded for free:

http://www.miraclemineral.org/


A link to the second part that can be accessed FREE:

http://www.mmssupplier.com/PDFs/MMS_Part_2%5B1%5DChlorine%20Dioxine.pdf

Thanks. :D

[ades]

Does anyone here brush your teeth with MMS?

I brush with 1 drop MMS and 5 drops of citric acid.. And i brush for no longer than 60 seconds.. And my tooths feels very clean.. Could this be bad?

Anyway i want to know if there is some special protocol when brushing..

[thelucifer]

Does anyone here brush your teeth with MMS?

I brush with 1 drop MMS and 5 drops of citric acid.. And i brush for no longer than 60 seconds.. And my tooths feels very clean.. Could this be bad?

Anyway i want to know if there is some special protocol when brushing..

I use a 6 MMS drop dose with 2 ounces of water, dipping brush repeatedly and then use the mixture as a mouth rinse/gargle.
Its best to keep the mixture in mouth for at least 3 minutes with tongue raised for easier access to the blood vessels under the tongue.


I do prefer Hydrogen peroxide with baking soda, peroxide is a stronger oxidizer/whitener.



I think a good protocol is,

brush in morning with hydrogen peroxide and backing soda, use 3% peroxide as a mouth rinse.

brush in the afternoon with MMS

brush in evening with hydrogen peroxide and backing soda

[da1reppinqnz]

Any new findings on MMS?.. i been taking it once a day .. probly 10 drops daily.. just becuz my eating habits are weird...one thing about it that i noticed is that.. after taking it i happen to have a nice time on the toilet.. killing parasites maybe?

[astonished]

Thank you! Looking into it.

[lupa]

I've been sent this by the chap who I purchased my mms from. He's sent me this email thought I'd share it.

Dear Reader,

It is now a growing concern about the claimed Swine Flu. Even more alarming is the vast amount of information available which is confusing, misleading and factually incorrect. These misconceptions only lead to confused thinking and inaction for most innocent people who will be left unprotected. Regardless if Swine Flu is man made or not, the fact is, SOMETHING is now Killing people around the world,and what is clear, is this SOMETHING is a pathogen.

The email is for the people who already use MMS 1. Regardless of how you use it, please follow the actions below to use in the environment you live in. Chlorine Dioxide made from the spray bottles will prevent any Flu type virus from passing in the air you are breathing. It will protect you and your family, it will prevent others coming into your home and spreading air born viruses.

For the people that have not had the time to research about MMS 1 there is information below which will aid your understanding of just how wonderful Chlorine Dioxide is. if you do not have it then I suggest you get it, because one day you just may be glad you did........


Thank you for reading

BREAKING NEWS.

KEEP INFORMED

Eliminate any type of flu virus from your surrounding air, either at work or at home.

HOW TO USE YOUR MMS SPRAY KIT TO KEEP SWINE FLU VIRUS OUT OF THE AIR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE BREATHING!

FIRSTLY LET US UNDERSTAND WHAT INFLUENZA IS!

Influenza is a viral disease that is passed from one person to another through the air. The disease infects the nose, throat or lungs. It often breaks out as an epidemic which quickly spreads from town to town and country to country. Typically, an area can have epidemic conditions for a period of four to six weeks before it eases off.

TYPES OF INFLUENZA

Are there different types of influenza?

Type A

The most serious type with the most acute symptoms. Swine Flu.

Type B

Similar symptoms to type A, but not as serious. The outbreaks happen every four to five years.

Type C

The mildest type, with symptoms similar to a cold.


WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS

How can chlorine dioxide prevent this influenza!

Read the research by the

Research Institute, Taiko Pharmaceutical Co. Ltd, Japan.

Influenza virus infection is one of the major causes of human morbidity and mortality. Between humans, this virus spreads mostly via aerosols excreted from the respiratory system. Current means of prevention of influenza virus infection are not entirely satisfactory because of their limited efficacy. Safe and effective preventive measures against pandemic influenza are greatly needed. We demonstrate that infection of mice induced by aerosols of influenza A virus was prevented by chlorine dioxide (ClO(2)) gas at an extremely low concentration (below the long-term permissible exposure level to humans, namely 0.1 p.p.m.).

Mice in semi-closed cages were exposed to aerosols of influenza A virus (1 LD(50)) and ClO(2) gas (0.03 p.p.m.) simultaneously for 15 min. Three days after exposure, pulmonary virus titre (TCID(50)) was 10(2.6+/-1.5) in five mice treated with ClO(2), whilst it was 10(6.7+/-0.2) in five mice that had not been treated (P=0.003). Cumulative mortality after 16 days was 0/10 mice treated with ClO(2) and 7/10 mice that had not been treated (P=0.002). In in vitro experiments, ClO(2) denatured viral envelope proteins (haemagglutinin and neuraminidase) that are indispensable for infectivity of the virus, and abolished infectivity. Taken together, we conclude that ClO(2) gas is effective at preventing aerosol-induced influenza virus infection in mice by denaturing viral envelope proteins at a concentration well below the permissible exposure level to humans. ClO(2) gas could therefore be useful as a preventive means against influenza in places of human activity without necessitating evacuation.

Among the most frequent infections of the upper and lower respiratory tracts in humans are those caused by influenza A virus, an enveloped, negative-sense, single-stranded RNA virus. In a typical year, the virus infects 15–20 % of the population, causing >500 000 deaths worldwide, but the most frightening effects are seen when new strains of virus emerge, resulting in devastating pandemics. Current reports of avian-to-human transmission of influenza A virus, particularly of the H5N1 subtype, make the prospect of new pandemics particularly alarming. It cannot be overemphasized that novel strains of influenza virus have the potential to cause devastating pandemics in the near future. In the past century, three outbreaks of influenza virus infection have caused significant numbers of human fatalities. Among them, the 1918 strain was particularly notable for its infectivity and the severity of the disease.

As with many respiratory viruses, influenza virus spreads in the air as aerosols (droplets) expelled from an infected human. It needs to attach to and penetrate target cells to establish infection. The principal route of entry of the virus into target cells takes place by binding to a receptor on the surface of a respiratory-tract epithelial cell, with subsequent transfer of viral genetic materials into the infected cell. The envelope of the influenza virus carries two major surface glycoproteins, haemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA) (EC 3 . 2 . 1 . 18). HA plays a key role in initiating viral infection by binding to sialic acid-containing receptors on host cells and mediates viral entry into cells and fusion with the cellular membrane. At a later stage of infection, NA also plays a key role by releasing sialic acid residues from the surface of progeny virus particles and from the infected cell, facilitating viral release. When influenza virus is deficient in NA activity, progeny virus particles aggregate at the surface of the infected cell, severely impairing further spread of the virus to other cells. Both HA and NA are indispensable for successful infection and spread of this virus. Several antiviral compounds, such as zanamivir, oseltamivir and resveratrol, have been developed, but their long-term efficacy is still limited by toxicity and inevitable selection of drug-resistant viral mutants Vaccination against influenza virus still has limited efficacy, and complete prevention of the disease is not yet possible.

Chlorine dioxide (ClO2) is a water-soluble, yellow gas with a characteristic chlorine-like odour and strong oxidizing activity (Moran et al., 1953Down; Fukayama et al., 1986Down; Ogata, 2007Down). It is commonly generated by adding acid to sodium chlorite (NaClO2) solution. ClO2 is a free radical, owing to one unpaired electron in its molecular orbital. Possibly due to its strong oxidizing activity when dissolved in water, ClO2 has potent antimicrobial activity against bacteria, fungi, protozoa and viruses. However, the antimicrobial activities of gas-phase ClO2 have not been well studied. This is especially true of ClO2 gas at very low concentrations (sub toxic levels) that are sufficiently safe to use in places of human activity without evacuation. According to the US Occupational Safety and Health Administration, the long-term (8 h) permissible exposure level of ClO2 in environmental air in a human workplace is 0.1 p.p.m.

If gas-phase ClO2 is shown to have potent antimicrobial activity at a sub toxic level, it would be useful to employ it at such levels to prevent transmission of respiratory infections in public places such as offices, schools, theatres, hospitals and airport buildings without evacuating occupants. The purpose of the present study was to determine whether ClO2 gas at a sub toxic level can protect against influenza A virus infection by using a mouse–influenza model. The mechanism of the effect of ClO2 against this virus was further substantiated by in vitro biochemical experiments.

NOW READ

Protective effect of low-concentration chlorine dioxide gas against influenza A virus infection.

We have demonstrated that ClO2 gas at an extremely low concentration can prevent influenza A virus infection of mice caused by aerosols. According to the US occupational Safety and Health Administration, the 8 h permissible exposure level of ClO2 in human workplaces is 0.1 ppm The level of ClO2 gas (0.03 ppm) used in this study is well below this level, and our results indicate that ClO2 at this level could be used in the presence of humans to prevent their infection by influenza A virus and possibly other related virus infections of the respiratory tract. Specifically, ClO2 gas could be used in places such as homes, offices, theatres, hotels, schools and airport buildings without evacuating people, thus not interrupting their normal activities.

Effect of chlorine dioxide gas of extremely low

concentration on absenteeism of schoolchildren

Norio Ogata* and Takashi Shibata

Taiko Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd., Osaka, Japan.

Accepted 03 July, 2009

Gas-generating devices of chlorine dioxide (ClO2) (MMS1) are used as deodorant of rooms. We happened to use a commercial tabletop deodorant canister that releases extremely low-concentration ClO2 gas in a school classroom as deodorant. We found retrospectively and unexpectedly that during a period of 38 consecutive school days the rate of school children absent from the school was markedly lower (1.5%) in a classroom where the ClO2 device was placed than that (4.0%) in a classroom where it was not placed. The percentages of absenteeism between these classrooms (1.5% vs. 4.0%) were significantly (p < 0.00001) different. The predominant causes of absenteeism during the period were common cold and influenza. Judging from the known veridical activity of ClO2, our unexpected finding in the school classrooms strongly suggests the usefulness of extremely low-concentration ClO2 gas to prevent respiratory viral diseases in semi-closed areas, such as theatres, hospitals and aircraft, without necessitating evacuation.

WHAT IS CHORINE DIOXIDE

INTRODUCTION

Chorine dioxide (ClO2) is water-soluble gas at room temperature. It has long been used as a disinfectant of tap and deodorant. Owing to its strong oxidizing activity, it inactivates bacteria, fungi and flu viruses. ClO2 gas released from its aqueous solution has been used as a sanitizer and a deodorant of room air.

ClO2 gas was used as a commercial tabletop deodorant ClO2 gas-generating device in school classrooms, and noticed an important finding about the absenteeism of school- children. The emerging threat of an influenza pandemic that may be spread rapidly by air travel is currently a serious global concern. The importance of our finding in terms of prevention of the spread of respiratory viral diseases, such as high-virulence avian influenza and swine flu in semi-closed areas, such as homes, office, theatres, hospitals and aircraft are critical for people to know so they can protect their families.

MATERIALS AND METHODS

You have the spray kit, all you need to do is put one or two spray of each in the small cup provided and leave the CIO2 gas to be released into the surrounding air this will give protection from air born pathogens for up to 12 hours.
Use this if you have visitors, guests; prevent them from spreading Flu in your home. This can be used in 100’s of ways. www.alternativeconcepts.co.uk

2 x 120ml spray bottles, 4 x cups, full instructions.

[21_12_2012]

Yeh, i got the same email too. I bought my MMS kit from the same place a couple of months ago.

[xpleet]

MMS1 and MMS2 Vs. Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide

by Jim Humble, Sept 26, 2009


These four chemicals are all oxidizers. MMS1, MMS2, Ozone, and Hydrogen Peroxide. They all kill pathogens by oxidation.

Ozone and hydrogen peroxide have been used for years in the human body to kill many diseases. They even oxidize heavy metals to some extent. Many lives have been saved and much suffering has been overcome using these two oxidizers mostly by intravenous injection.

Ozone is the most powerful oxidizer known and Hydrogen Peroxide is a close second. In the healing field they both have been very useful as they both can kill any known pathogen. The problem lies in that these two oxidizers are so strong that they not only kill the germs, but they can damage many other things. Of course, the amount of damage is often determined by the amount of chemical in solution. But it doesn’t now matter how weak the ozone or hydrogen peroxide is, it can still oxidize things in your body that you may not want to oxidize - not even in small amounts.

So that is the major disadvantage of these chemicals, and it's the reason people buy antioxidant pills and capsules. You don't want free oxygen adrift in muscles and flesh. The only safe oxygen is carried in red blood cells. Otherwise free oxygen can damage things you don't want to damage even though a doctor might use oxygen therapies to remove bad things.

When oxygen is used in the human body it can damage good body cells as well as kill pathogens that are present. In addition, oxygen and ozone is so powerful that they get used up quickly. And being used up quickly, they cannot penetrate deeply into tissues where many pathogens hide. They never get to important places because they are used up before they reach the pathogens that one is attempting to kill. So, before oxygen ever penetrates to reach bad things, it gets used up killing good things along the way.
An MMS Training session
This is not to say that they haven’t been useful in treating some diseases that nothing else can destroy, but they do cause a certain amount of damage on the way. There are many diseases that simply hide deep enough in the tissues that they cannot be reached with these oxidizers. One example would be HIV and AIDS. These oxidizers simply cannot kill HIV or AIDS as they cannot penetrate deep enough into the tissues of the body to reach the hiding places of these diseases. However, there have been some instances where enough disease germs were killed that the victim had a few months to a few years of breathing room before the disease again took over.

Hydrogen Peroxide was once sold from the shelves of almost all health food stores in America, but it was then found out that it was creating a number of health problems when it was used. It not only killed pathogens, but it killed many beneficial bacteria as well. The ones that it killed left special room for pathogens to grow or re-grow.

I personally used Hydrogen Peroxide for brushing my teeth - as the label says you can do. Did it every day, but I developed a terrible taste in my mouth that also smelled pretty bad. I finally stopped using Hydrogen Peroxide and the health of my mouth returned and some health food stores stopped offering it for sale as it became evident that it was doing more harm than good. As time passed a few health food stores began to offer it for sale again, but they risk being sued as the data concerning the problems of Hydrogen Peroxide are known and are visible on the Internet.

There are now quite a number of proponents of Ozone and many of hydrogen peroxide as well. They continue to push these two oxidizers as being the best thing possible or the only thing possible to cure a number of diseases. I personally wouldn’t want to suggest that it is not true. They are not the only thing possible anymore, as now MMS1 and MMS2 is in use by over a million people each day. With Ozone and hydrogen peroxide the use of intravenous injection is not a simple matter to most of the world. It takes equipment and special knowledge and the fact is the general public is never going to be able to self administer intravenous injection. In addition to that, one still has all those problems that I mention above.

Enter MMS1 and MMS2.

MMS1 generates chlorine dioxide, a very special oxidizer that is not powerful at all. It is a weak oxidizer, but powerful in a different way. It doesn’t have the oxidization potential required to oxidize most materials. Just about the only living thing that it can oxidize is pathogens. There are many non living things that it can oxidize, but not normal living cells. When I say it is powerful in a different way, the fact is that it has a much greater capacity than Ozone or Hydrogen peroxide for pathogens while at the same time not being able to oxidize hundreds of things that these other oxidizers can oxidize.

MMS1 penetrates deeply into the tissues of the body while not being used up on the way to the target. It simply cannot oxidize any of the living cells of the human body. MMS1 (chlorine dioxide) is one of the two important chemicals that the human immune system generates naturally to kill disease pathogens and other items in the body that need to be destroyed. MMS2 is the other important chemical that the immune system generates. Isn’t it funny that the two miracle minerals that are hundreds of times more effective than any drug are actually chemicals that the human body has been using for hundreds of thousands of years?

But I think the thing that is the most hard to understand is that modern medicine never discovered this in their billions of dollars of research. In addition, hundreds of thousands of people have already proven that MMS1 and MMS2 can be effectively self administered. This allows for MMS1 and MMS2 to be used throughout the world in thousands of places where it would be impossible to use Ozone.

MMS2 is a special weak acid that the human immune system generates naturally to kill hundreds of different pathogens and other things in the body that need killing. The name of this acid is hypochlorous acid and it is a natural acid made in small quantities within the body. Although it is available naturally, evidently the body cannot generate enough of it to handle powerful diseases under certain conditions. When MMS2 is taken it immediately turns to hypochlorous acid and in most cases the disease is killed in just a few hours or several days.

MMS2 generates hypochlorous acid, a very special acid that the immune system learned to use hundreds of thousands of years ago. This acid releases nascent oxygen when the special proteins of pathogens are present including viruses and most other microorganisms. This acid works using a special mechanism that neither ozone nor hydrogen peroxide can match. The acid itself is not an oxidizer, but it is considered an oxidizer because it releases nascent oxygen in the presence of some proteins. Thus hypochlorous acid can penetrate deeply into the tissues before it encounters the proteins of the pathogens and then releases the powerful nascent oxygen. The body chose well when it began to use hypochlorous acid as no pathogen has ever developed a resistance to it in a hundred thousand years.

The various diseases can hide deep in the tissues of the body, but the hypochlorous acid is a liquid that slowly penetrates deeper and deeper into the tissues until it is flowing as deeply as the disease pathogens. As a molecule of hypochlorous acid recognizes the protein in a pathogen molecule it instantly releases its oxygen molecule and it changes to an ion of table salt and a hydrogen ion that becomes part of the water. No new compounds are created and nothing is left behind but a molecule of salt. There is nothing to create side effects.

Of course, the nascent oxygen destroys the pathogen and becomes discharged oxygen that becomes carbon dioxide to be breathed out on the next breath outwards.

So you see, MMS1 and MMS2 are miracle minerals that are far beyond ozone and hydrogen peroxide and any other known oxidizers. Both of these chemicals have saved thousands of lives and the two working together will probably cure any disease known. At least they will kill any disease that is caused by pathogens and I do not know of a disease that is not caused by pathogens one way or the other. MMS1 and MMS2 will kill many diseases that ozone and hydrogen peroxide cannot touch and they will kill every disease that these oxidizers are now being used to kill.

Ozone and hydrogen peroxide should be retired as they are no longer required. Sorry, but I have treated more than 5,000 people and some of these were being treated with ozone or hydrogen peroxide at the time. I always suggested that they stop the ozone or hydrogen peroxide treatments and use MMS - which always worked quickly. Both MMS1 and MMS2 are many times more effective and much faster. MMS1 and MMS2 chemistry theory is much better, it is much easier to use, and thousands of lives now prove the point.

Please check the actual facts before you continue with ozone or hydrogen peroxide. Normally, intravenous MMS treatment is not required, but it can be used in special cases. Normally just drinking a few doses will cure most minor things. And the HIV protocol will cure most any incurable disease. That is simply giving a victim of most disease 3 drops of activated MMS1 each hour for 8 to 10 hours a day for 3 weeks. Many patients can treat themselves but some require special treatment.

When something is really bad, like the patient is about to die of cancer then add MMS2 every 2 hours . I have personally seen a number of cases just come right out of different incurable diseases and go back to work. That is, they went from about to die, to back to work in from two to three weeks.

See various MMS protocols at my site http://JimHumble.biz/ .

Extensive MMS information has been collected at http://MMS-education.com/ .

Jim Humble writing from Africa, September, 2009


http://jimhumble.biz/biz-ozonecontrast.htm

[ades]

Is there anyone who got a suggestion for one that wants to help the body get rid of a slight fever?

6 drops?

[21_12_2012]

I'd do probably about 4 drops every hour for about 3 times in the morning, couple of times in the afternoon, and 3 times at night.

If the fever was still there next day i would repeat again, it should be gone by the 2nd night.

Have you used MMS before ?

[ades]

Yes, i have used it before just to try it out, and no effect(just what i expected and wanted), because im healthy for the moment :)

Asked last question because a friend of mine have a slight fever..

This person have not used MMS before..

[21_12_2012]

If the person hasn't used MMS before, i rekon 1 drop an hour every hour for about 10 hours the first day, and same again day after.

That's my guess though.

Maybe, instead of that, 2 drops per hour for 5 or 6 hours, both days.

MMS is something people need to experiment with really, especially first time users. It's safe though, but some hate the taste more than others, and some feel nausea on less amounts than others. It depends how toxic / ill / infected a person is really as to how much nausea they feel, and how sensetive their stomach/taste/smell is etc

[ades]

Thanks for your advice

[tazika]

We have MMS for a year, and we got some nasty flu. My son came from kindergarten and soon he had 40 C. We gave him few drops of MMS, and later even more - as Humble says: 3 drops per 12kg. Then I got it, obviously I was infected before. So we take MMS as well as all those fruits and juices and syrups and vit.D and C and 4th day I was scared that kid is going into pneumonia... luckilly we are both getting on better. I suppose it would be worse without MMS, but it doesn't stop flu, only makes it lighter.

IMPORTAINT
What I wanted to say is: MMS really cures some other "uncurable" diseases and that's true! Right in front of my eyes MMS completely cured my husband's "uncurable" rheumatoid arthritis in just 6 days! For nearly 30 years my husband had that illness, doctor's gave him up long ago, just gave him painkillers (that made him piss blood but didn't cure). His knees would become 2 hot baloons 4-5 times a year - ugly to watch!, and all the time he walked like an painfull invalid. You should see him now!!! It never came back! And he takes MMS just once in a while...

Yesterday I saw on TV new interview with DAVID ICKE. I saw his hands - well they were on the bottom of the picture, but is it not rheum.arthritis??? Poor man! - if it is. Can someone tell him to try MMS cure? I can't guarantee, but if there is a possibility to be cured as my husband was, why not try? Administrators - can you tell him for this?

[21_12_2012]

We have MMS for a year, and we got some nasty flu. My son came from kindergarten and soon he had 40 C. We gave him few drops of MMS, and later even more - as Humble says: 3 drops per 12kg. Then I got it, obviously I was infected before. So we take MMS as well as all those fruits and juices and syrups and vit.D and C and 4th day I was scared that kid is going into pneumonia... luckilly we are both getting on better. I suppose it would be worse without MMS, but it doesn't stop flu, only makes it lighter.

MMS should not be used with certain fruits and fruit juices (such as orange/lemon/lime/cytrus fruit juices if i remember correctly), because it weakens the effect of the MMS.

That is probably why you only weakened the flu symptoms instead of killing it off completely.

[21_12_2012]

Next time, try taking MMS and just drinking water.

[blackchisel97]

While taking MMS1 you should avoid taking vitamin C at the same time. Vitamin C deactivates MMS causing decreased effectiveness. Also, it should be taken with water or juice without added vit. C for the same reason. MMS will not supply vitamins or minerals needed but they can be taken between MMS doses. MMS stays active for about 1.5 hours in our body. It is more beneficial to take smaller doses but regularly, thus maintaining constant level instead of few larger ones.

Cheers
Vtech

[tazika]

We take it with water, and make 1-2 hours before&after pause, then vitamines. I'm sorry that in my text it came out like I take it all at once.
It seems that MMS does cure "uncurable" rheumatoid arthrtitis in 6 days, malaria in 2 days or even few hours, but ordinary flu... finally we feel better, it lasted a very nasty week, nothing was really helping. Or it did? In this my 4-million-inhabitants country of Croatia doctors confirmed few thousands H1N1 flu, and I suppose that most of people simply didn't go to the doctor. I see empty streets, some schools don't work... everybody is sick.

I would like to hear that info about MMS comes to David Icke: has he tried to cure his hands with it?
Have you seen his hands lately? Maybe my TV gave wrong picture, his hands were mosty blurr. Do you have any info about his hands, his health? Here we talk about such a fantastic cure for rheum.artritis, I've seen how terrible illness that is, and I would like for everybody to get cured from it!!!

[21_12_2012]

We take it with water, and make 1-2 hours before&after pause, then vitamines. I'm sorry that in my text it came out like I take it all at once.
It seems that MMS does cure "uncurable" rheumatoid arthrtitis in 6 days, malaria in 2 days or even few hours, but ordinary flu... finally we feel better, it lasted a very nasty week, nothing was really helping. Or it did? In this my 4-million-inhabitants country of Croatia doctors confirmed few thousands H1N1 flu, and I suppose that most of people simply didn't go to the doctor. I see empty streets, some schools don't work... everybody is sick.

I would like to hear that info about MMS comes to David Icke: has he tried to cure his hands with it?
Have you seen his hands lately? Maybe my TV gave wrong picture, his hands were mosty blurr. Do you have any info about his hands, his health? Here we talk about such a fantastic cure for rheum.artritis, I've seen how terrible illness that is, and I would like for everybody to get cured from it!!!

Maybe you were not taking enough drops to cure it quick enough.

2 virus s have tried to attack me this year, when i felt the symptoms (sore throat/headache/tiredness etc) coming on, I quickly started on the MMS.

If I remember correctly, i think i was having about 5 drops every hour for a few hours, and i think i might have had a big dose at night of about 10 drops in 1 go, and the next day very similar amounts, and the virus was gone after that.

I do remember i had quite a lot of MMS to get rid of them.

MMS is safe anyway, I dont think you could take 'too much' MMS and harm yourself.

I know this might be an obvious question, but, were you mixing 5 drops of citric acid to each drop of MMS and waiting 3 minutes before drinking ?

It is interesting that you mention David Icke's arthritis, which is apparently very bad. I wonder if he has heard of MMS working for arthritis.

Maybe someone could let him know, one of the moderators on here maybe.

[energi]

Could this help with the swine flu (or the vaccine for the swine flu)?

[21_12_2012]

Could this help with the swine flu (or the vaccine for the swine flu)?

MMS claims to be able to kill ANY pathogen, so yes, swine flu would be killed by MMS.

As for the vaccine, well, it contains other 'nasties' apart from the 'virus', such as mercury, squalene and who knows what else.

MMS is a pathogen killer, even though some people claim it has the ability to 'chelate' (bind to and remove) heavy metals such as mercury, I doubt it can chelate properly, although it is a possibilty.

The best thing to do is just avoid the vaccine, or prepare for it by taking lots of immune system-boosting substances, along with a good dose of MMS for a week or so after.

Thats just my opinion anyway.

[lupa]

We take it with water, and make 1-2 hours before&after pause, then vitamines. I'm sorry that in my text it came out like I take it all at once.
It seems that MMS does cure "uncurable" rheumatoid arthrtitis in 6 days, malaria in 2 days or even few hours, but ordinary flu... finally we feel better, it lasted a very nasty week, nothing was really helping. Or it did? In this my 4-million-inhabitants country of Croatia doctors confirmed few thousands H1N1 flu, and I suppose that most of people simply didn't go to the doctor. I see empty streets, some schools don't work... everybody is sick.

I would like to hear that info about MMS comes to David Icke: has he tried to cure his hands with it?
Have you seen his hands lately? Maybe my TV gave wrong picture, his hands were mosty blurr. Do you have any info about his hands, his health? Here we talk about such a fantastic cure for rheum.artritis, I've seen how terrible illness that is, and I would like for everybody to get cured from it!!!

is that H1N1 or what has come from the ukraine? Do you know how many in Croatia have been infected tazika?

[tenzingnorgay]

jesus is the only way

Jesus is a fictional character

[tenzingnorgay]

We need to find out if his claims are true or false. I'm going to take a proper look at his ebook and find out how to make this stuff or where to order it from.

If these claims aren't true then it will be yet another bummer, but this man could probably go to prison for showing his face on camera and making false claims....why would he do this if he isn't sincere about it all?

His claims are more or less true but are being presented dishonestly. MMS is not a mineral supplement. It is a toxic substance that can kill numerous microorganisms. It is a poor man's form of chemotherapy.

[lupa]

his claims are more or less true but are being presented dishonestly. Mms is not a mineral supplement. It is a toxic substance that can kill numerous microorganisms. It is a poor man's form of chemotherapy.

pic's or didn't happen

[hawks29]

His claims are more or less true but are being presented dishonestly. MMS is not a mineral supplement. It is a toxic substance that can kill numerous microorganisms. It is a poor man's form of chemotherapy.

You quite clearly havn't read what it does then. Due to it's chemical make up, it can't harm healthy cells only the harmfull ones.

[blackchisel97]

His claims are more or less true but are being presented dishonestly. MMS is not a mineral supplement. It is a toxic substance that can kill numerous microorganisms. It is a poor man's form of chemotherapy.

What is the sodium chlorite or calcium hypochlorite? - mineral.
What is the definition of supplement - pls Google it.
What is the definition of toxic substance - follow the above.
Both minerals have no toxic effects on live human cells unlike chemo.
There is no side effects and there is nothing toxic left in the body. After the electron shell is pulled from molecule of pathogen, molecule of ClO2 is destroyed due to the electric charge thus, releasing atomic Cl - which join Na, becoming NaCl - sodium chloride (very same compound used in the kitchen and normally present in body fluids). Atomic oxygen is joining either carbon - becoming CO2 or hydrogen - becoming H20. The whole process is based on electron charges and their displacement. When electron shell is pulled from the molecule, molecule is destroyed and atoms released. In case of pathogen released atoms are no longer harmful to our body. The rest is done by our immune system not being weakened - like in case of a cancer treatment. Is this a miracle? IMO yes. I know some cancer survivors but they are alive not because a "miracle" cancer treatment and "rich man chemo" but because of their immune system. What is AIDS? - Acquired immune deficiency syndrome or acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. What may kill is the simple cold not the AIDS itself.

Cheers
Vtech

[tenzingnorgay]

You quite clearly havn't read what it does then. Due to it's chemical make up, it can't harm healthy cells only the harmfull ones.

I have read the entire book. There are many claims in the book that are not supported by any science. It absolutely can and does harm healthy cells. That is one of the reasons that you feel sick when you ingest it. That is one of the reasons the author warns you not to take too much of it. No chemical can distinguish between healthy and unhealthy cells.

[tenzingnorgay]

What is the sodium chlorite or calcium hypochlorite? - mineral.
What is the definition of supplement - pls Google it.
What is the definition of toxic substance - follow the above.
Both minerals have no toxic effects on live human cells unlike chemo.
There is no side effects and there is nothing toxic left in the body. After the electron shell is pulled from molecule of pathogen, molecule of ClO2 is destroyed due to the electric charge thus, releasing atomic Cl - which join Na, becoming NaCl - sodium chloride (very same compound used in the kitchen and normally present in body fluids). Atomic oxygen is joining either carbon - becoming CO2 or hydrogen - becoming H20. The whole process is based on electron charges and their displacement. When electron shell is pulled from the molecule, molecule is destroyed and atoms released. In case of pathogen released atoms are no longer harmful to our body. The rest is done by our immune system not being weakened - like in case of a cancer treatment. Is this a miracle? IMO yes. I know some cancer survivors but they are alive not because a "miracle" cancer treatment and "rich man chemo" but because of their immune system. What is AIDS? - Acquired immune deficiency syndrome or acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. What may kill is the simple cold not the AIDS itself.

Cheers
Vtech

Chlorine dioxide is widely used as an industrial cleanser. The use of chlorine dioxide in water treatment leads to the formation of the by-product chlorite which is currently limited to a maximum of 1 ppm in drinking water in the USA. Using the MMS results in concentrations in the body far higher than 1 ppm.

Sodium chlorite is used as a toxic pesticide:

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC34363

[tenzingnorgay]

"Summary of toxicology

1. Effects on Animals: Chlorine dioxide is a severe respiratory and eye irritant in experimental animals. The oral LD(50) in rats is 292 mg/kg [NIOSH 1995]. Delayed deaths have occurred in animals exposed to 150 to 200 ppm for less than 1 hour. Rats exposed to 10 ppm daily died after 10 to 13 days of exposure; effects seen were nasal and ocular discharge and difficult breathing. A postmortem examination revealed purulent bronchitis [Hathaway et al. 1991]. Rats exposed to ppm of chlorine dioxide for 5 hours daily for 10 weeks did not exhibit any abnormal reactions [ACGIH 1991]. Chlorine dioxide dissolves in water to produce chlorate and chlorite ions. Chlorite has been shown to produce methemoglobin in rats and cats [Gosselin

Effects on Humans: Chlorine dioxide is a severe respiratory and eye irritant in humans. Inhalation can produce coughing, wheezing, respiratory distress, and congestion in the lungs [Patnaik 1992]. Irritating effects in humans was intense at concentration levels of 5 ppm. Accidental exposure at 19 ppm of the gas inside a bleach tank resulted in the death of one worker (time of exposure is not specified) [ACGIH 1991]. Workers exposed for 5 years to average chlorine dioxide concentrations below 0.1 ppm but with excursions to higher concentrations had symptoms of eye and throat irritation, nasal discharge, cough, and wheezing; on bronchoscopy, bronchitis was observed in seven of the 12 workers [Clayton and Clayton 1982]. Concentrations of 0.25 ppm and less have been reported to worsen mild respiratory ailments [ACGIH 1991]. Two adults who ingested 250 ml of a 40 mg/l solution of chlorine dioxide experienced headache, nausea, abdominal discomfort, and lightheadedness within 5 minutes of ingestion. The symptoms disappeared within another 5 minutes [NLM

Signs and symptoms of exposure

1. Acute exposure: Acute exposure to chlorine dioxide results in

irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat; cough; wheezing; shortness of breath; bronchitis; pulmonary edema; headache; and vomiting [Genium

Chronic exposure: Chronic exposure to chlorine dioxide may cause chronic bronchitis and emphysema [Sittig 1991].

EMERGENCY MEDICAL PROCEDURES

* Emergency medical procedures: [NIOSH to supply]

5. Rescue: Remove an incapacitated worker from further exposure and implement appropriate emergency procedures (e.g., those listed on the Material Safety Data Sheet required by OSHA's Hazard Communication Standard [29 CFR 1910.1200]). All workers should be familiar with emergency procedures, the location and proper use of emergency equipment, and methods of protecting themselves during rescue operations."

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/chlorinedioxide/recognition.html

I'll repeat this once more for those who are slow -

MMS is a toxic chemical that causes cell damage indiscriminately. It is a poor man's chemotherapy.

[thelucifer]

I have read the entire book. There are many claims in the book that are not supported by any science. It absolutely can and does harm healthy cells. That is one of the reasons that you feel sick when you ingest it. That is one of the reasons the author warns you not to take too much of it. No chemical can distinguish between healthy and unhealthy cells.

You are wrong.

MMS1 at the correct strength cant harm healthy tissues/cells.

Healthy tissues/cells can withstand 1.30 volts oxidation, MMS1 has an oxidation strength of .95 volts oxidation potential.

Anaerobic pathogens are weak, they cannot withstand .95 volts oxidation.



Heres a link for you.
http://jimhumble.biz/
Click on Understanding MMS (Five Page Brochure)




It is true that you dont want to get it in your eye's and breathing it can be risky, I recommend using Hydrogen peroxide in steamers/humidifiers instead of MMS1.

[blackchisel97]

You are wrong.

MMS1 at the correct strength cant harm healthy tissues/cells.

Healthy tissues/cells can withstand 1.30 volts oxidation, MMS1 has an oxidation strength of .95 volts oxidation potential.

Anaerobic pathogens are weak, they cannot withstand .95 volts oxidation. That's correct



Heres a link for you.
http://jimhumble.biz/
Click on Understanding MMS (Five Page Brochure)




It is true that you dont want to get it in your eye's and breathing it can be risky, I recommend using Hydrogen peroxide in steamers/humidifiers instead of MMS1. I'll disagree with this statement; H2O2 has higher oxidation strength than MMS. There is recommended protocol for clearing airways and needs to be followed in order to be safe, just like any medication. There is other product which works very well with congestion and loosens mucus as well as clearing stuffy nose. It sells under the name Amol. It's herbal extract which can be used topically, ingested and inhaled. I've been using this over the past 18 years and everyone to whom I recommended reported very positive feedback.

Cheers
Vtech

[thelucifer]

I'll disagree with this statement; H2O2 has higher oxidation strength than MMS. There is recommended protocol for clearing airways and needs to be followed in order to be safe, just like any medication. There is other product which works very well with congestion and loosens mucus as well as clearing stuffy nose. It sells under the name Amol. It's herbal extract which can be used topically, ingested and inhaled. I've been using this over the past 18 years and everyone to whom I recommended reported very positive feedback.

Cheers
Vtech

O2xygen Therapies
Page 59
One ounce of 35% peroxide (per gallon of water) in a vaporizer every night in an emphysemics bedroom, and they will breathe freer than they have breathed in years !
I do this for my lung cancer patients.
Patients who could not lie down in bed to sleep can lie down after one night of breathing the vapors of hydrogen peroxide.
It's amazing. One ounce per gallon. It's a very simple thing to do.

Dr Kurt Donsbach

[blackchisel97]

[QUOTE=tenzingnorgay;
I'll repeat this once more for those who are slow -
.[/QUOTE]

I personally used both, MMS1 and MMS2. I have a background in chemistry, biomedicine and bioelectronics acquired probably before you have developed fast reading skills. BTW did you ever study fine print and SDS of commonly available over the counter medicine, such as expectorants and what the contain? Even clean water can be overdosed and cause negative effects. Are you aware of chemical compounds in fresh fruits, including those used to preserve them during shipment and storage. Did you ever study list of ingredients on any food product you bought? Did you ever see warnings that plastic food containers can slowly release toxic substances when heated or exposed to fats? Some of them break down (chemically) in contact with light. That Aluminum trays, pots, pans and containers should not be used for preparing or storing food which pH is far from neutral, because of Al ability to react with such forming toxic salts? Did you ever see warning on prefab furniture or carpets about slow release of toxic substances and possible effects of prolonged exposure? I studied some in 80'.
Think twice, before you decide to insult people around by calling them slow, even if you're getting paid for doing so.

Cheers
Vtech

[blackchisel97]

O2xygen Therapies
Page 59
One ounce of 35% peroxide (per gallon of water) in a vaporizer every night in an emphysemics bedroom, and they will breathe freer than they have breathed in years !
I do this for my lung cancer patients.
Patients who could not lie down in bed to sleep can lie down after one night of breathing the vapors of hydrogen peroxide.
It's amazing. One ounce per gallon. It's a very simple thing to do.

Dr Kurt Donsbach

:) Yes, you're 100% correct and I didn't mean to discredit peroxide. I just tried to say that MMS in correct dose isn't unsafe to use.

Regards
Vtech

[thelucifer]

:) Yes, you're 100% correct and I didn't mean to discredit peroxide. I just tried to say that MMS in correct dose isn't unsafe to use.

Regards
Vtech

I agree. :)

The point I was making is MMS1 can be a little risky in a humidifier because of concentration control, there are warnings with pets (especially with birds) but it is effective, just need to be careful.

As far as Hydrogen peroxide goes, I think its easier to use with humidifiers. ;)

[blackchisel97]

I agree. :)

The point I was making is MMS1 can be a little risky in a humidifier because of concentration control, there are warnings with pets (especially with birds) but it is effective, just need to be careful.

As far as Hydrogen peroxide goes, I think its easier to use with humidifiers. ;)
Yes, good you have mentioned that. I had to "fog" my place after basement got flooded. We moved dogs and fish pond to the garage for a few hours however, this was higher concentration then one you'd use for inhalation. It's important to carefully read Jim's protocol in that case. Peroxide is indeed easier to work with.

Cheers
Vtech

[21_12_2012]

I'm having a great time these last few weeks, seeing people, some of which are like 15 - 20 years younger than me, coughing and spluttering in the same room as me, walking round supermarkets seeing people sneezing and coughing all around me, and going into friends houses breathing in their infected air, and having them in my car even, coughing all over the place....

And i'm catching NONE of it....not even a sniffle....

THANKS MMS........weheyyyyyy !
CHEERS JIM HUMBLE....what a guy !

[thelucifer]

I'm having a great time these last few weeks, seeing people, some of which are like 15 - 20 years younger than me, coughing and spluttering in the same room as me, walking round supermarkets seeing people sneezing and coughing all around me, and going into friends houses breathing in their infected air, and having them in my car even, coughing all over the place....

And i'm catching NONE of it....not even a sniffle....

THANKS MMS........weheyyyyyy !
CHEERS JIM HUMBLE....what a guy !

:D;)

[ades]

I'm having a great time these last few weeks, seeing people, some of which are like 15 - 20 years younger than me, coughing and spluttering in the same room as me, walking round supermarkets seeing people sneezing and coughing all around me, and going into friends houses breathing in their infected air, and having them in my car even, coughing all over the place....

And i'm catching NONE of it....not even a sniffle....

THANKS MMS........weheyyyyyy !
CHEERS JIM HUMBLE....what a guy !

Same here.. Recently spent a weekend with a friend who had fever.. Brought with me the MMS.. He didnt dare try it.. :) And i didnt catch anything..

[21_12_2012]

Same here.. Recently spent a weekend with a friend who had fever.. Brought with me the MMS.. He didnt dare try it.. :) And i didnt catch anything..

It's the business..every morning before anything else...a few drops to keep the germs at bay.

[ytch]

Hi there,

yepp, some drops three times/ one day
taken at the first signs of common sicknesses
as cold, flu etc,
seems to support
my immune system to fight it of completely,
some of the effects might be psychosomatic in my case,
but there were at least two occasions this year
which showed its effect pretty clear.

Does anybody know about taking MMS as eardrops?

Love & Laughter,

y
that

[ades]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLEEFLCefnM

[ragman]

So this MMS really is good then ? Is it possible to overdose on it , and die or anything ? im seriously considering buying some , where is the best place to buy this stuff ? Does it come with all the necessary information ? peace

[ades]

So this MMS really is good then ? Is it possible to overdose on it , and die or anything ? im seriously considering buying some , where is the best place to buy this stuff ? Does it come with all the necessary information ? peace

I think so..

Yeah, you can overdose on it.. Read up on how much you should take, listen to your body while taking it..

I bought my bottles from.. http://www.projectgreenlife.com/cart/pc/home.asp

All the necessary information is on the Internet :)

[ades]

I am wondering if MMS could have a bad effect on titanium-implants in your body? If any one knows..

[morphal]

I also have an MMS question - this is a huge thread and I haven't read it all so hopefully not repeating here... I haven't used my MMS in a good few months, I just got out the bottle and the rubber part of the top of the dropper that screws into the glass bottle is all sunken in and deteriorated, I pull on it and it's soft and loose and there are cracks through the rubber. What's up with this? Is it safe to use? I'm thinking I'll bring it into the health store tomorrow and ask them why this would happen.

[shiver]

Ades,

Here is a link that may be of interest to you: http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=1225

The short version is that Titanium is unique in that it is resistent to halogens, so no worries.

Morphal,

I have many bottles and pipettes here with rubber tops that crack. It's not necessarily the content that's causing it. The correct dropper for MMS is the fliptop cap anyhow, which is calibrated to give a metered dose so that we're all on the same page. If you continue to use the dropper bottles then it's worth finding out what diameter the hole is so you know how much you're actually taking.

Regards
Paul

[ades]

Ades,

Here is a link that may be of interest to you: http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=1225

The short version is that Titanium is unique in that it is resistent to halogens, so no worries.

Morphal,

I have many bottles and pipettes here with rubber tops that crack. It's not necessarily the content that's causing it. The correct dropper for MMS is the fliptop cap anyhow, which is calibrated to give a metered dose so that we're all on the same page. If you continue to use the dropper bottles then it's worth finding out what diameter the hole is so you know how much you're actually taking.

Regards
Paul

Thanks you for that link

[ades]

Hey again.. I just wonder if anyone have similar experiences as i do..

When i take chlorine dioxide i usually get tired easily.. Have to sleep atleast 10 hours per day.. Sometimes more..

I dont have any vomiting or any noticable nausea.. Isolated incidents of diarrhea...

Anyone else get as tired as me?

[margaretr]

Sleep is part of the healing process.
I have used MMS several times. I don't take it regularly daily, although some people do.

I only take it when I know I have some infection I need to be rid of, and the effect is diarrheoa every time = the evidence that whatever it was is being purged.

I know this will happen - it is painless diarrheoa - I am fortunate that I can stay home near a loo (retired)

[mielaz]

Hey again.. I just wonder if anyone have similar experiences as i do..

When i take chlorine dioxide i usually get tired easily.. Have to sleep atleast 10 hours per day.. Sometimes more..

I dont have any vomiting or any noticable nausea.. Isolated incidents of diarrhea...

Anyone else get as tired as me?

Yes I seem to get tired sometimes too, but it was mostly in the start I think, though i still sometimes sleep 12 hours after taking it at night. Other thing is my dreams seem to be more vivid. I havent had any other effects from it other than some minor headaches when i first started.

[morphal]

Ades,

Here is a link that may be of interest to you: http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=1225

The short version is that Titanium is unique in that it is resistent to halogens, so no worries.

Morphal,

I have many bottles and pipettes here with rubber tops that crack. It's not necessarily the content that's causing it. The correct dropper for MMS is the fliptop cap anyhow, which is calibrated to give a metered dose so that we're all on the same page. If you continue to use the dropper bottles then it's worth finding out what diameter the hole is so you know how much you're actually taking.

Regards
Paul

Thanks Paul, I appreciate the info, and will just transfer the MMS.

[devinet01]

Hi from france everybody,

Could anyone here tell me wether MMS is good against hyperthyroid problem ?

... any links?

Very sincerely :)

[hitithard]

Hello everyone,

I haven't read through all of the tread yet, although i will do,

Has anyone had any experience with mms and prostrate cancer? My grandfather has been diagnosed..I have been reading about mms for a long time now, but I am worried about referring it to him, for safety and just due to whether i trust the authenticity of the product. When ever I start reading up on it again, it just seems like it could just be one big scam

Anyone?

[ades]

Hello everyone,

I haven't read through all of the tread yet, although i will do,

Has anyone had any experience with mms and prostrate cancer? My grandfather has been diagnosed..I have been reading about mms for a long time now, but I am worried about referring it to him, for safety and just due to whether i trust the authenticity of the product. When ever I start reading up on it again, it just seems like it could just be one big scam

Anyone?

There is one testimonial regarding prostate-cancer in the Jim Humble MMS-documentary.. have you seen that?

So i dont think it can hurt to try..

[margaretr]

It is definately a better option than chemotherapy or radiation therapy, which just make the patient live longer and suffer more whilst waiting.

[morethanatheory]

It works

Stop being so skeptical! Read his book before calling it tap water.


Buy some if you don't believe me, just take a chance and when someone gets sick give them a drop. If it doesn't work i'll give you your money back myself.

It's coming off the shelves quick, it's banned in canada and certain parts of america, so get some soon!

[tazika]

You should try with your father. Just a few drops, then you will see how he reacts on MMS.
What can you loose?!
I've seen that people with very sick stomack can't take MMS, I don't know the english word... those who have little wounds in stomack. But they succeedded in taking it below the tail (anus), or having it in mouth for few minutes then spit etc. If I would have souch a problem I would take it intravein somehow, I've read about it.

[rynath]

A recent interview with Mr. Humble via Bill Ryan of PC:

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/jim_humble_en.html

http://www.jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

http://www.jimhumble.biz/

[cosmo1]

I contracted Bell's Palsy four days after starting mms1; that was nearly three weeks ago.

I kept it up, though lowering the dose, but in the end i could just not stomach it - even the small amount i was taking.
And all the water was making me feel damn sick too.

I tried mms2 but that gave me a really dodgy tum too, no matter how much damn water i drank.

I am now sick of water and not taking mms anymore.

I am not blaming mms for anything, i may have contracted the Bell's Palsy anyway, and as for the rest, maybe i just cannot take it for some reason.
I appear to be in the minority as the success stories are many.

Good luck.

[thelucifer]

I contracted Bell's Palsy four days after starting mms1; that was nearly three weeks ago.

I kept it up, though lowering the dose, but in the end i could just not stomach it - even the small amount i was taking.
And all the water was making me feel damn sick too.

I tried mms2 but that gave me a really dodgy tum too, no matter how much damn water i drank.

I am now sick of water and not taking mms anymore.

I am not blaming mms for anything, i may have contracted the Bell's Palsy anyway, and as for the rest, maybe i just cannot take it for some reason.
I appear to be in the minority as the success stories are many.

Good luck.

Bell's palsy (facial paralysis) ?

This makes no sense at all.

Explain how you prepared your doses and how many mms drops were in your doses ??

[cosmo1]

Bell's palsy (facial paralysis) ?

This makes no sense at all.

Explain how you prepared your doses and how many mms drops were in your doses ??

Yep, that's the one.

I did everything by the book except i upped the dosage too soon and by too much i think.

If you look up Bell's Palsy it says that they think it is contracted through something viral such as herpes - which i am certain i do not have, i think i would notice that, so if that is true - the viral bit - perhaps the mms1 was bringing it out with a bang.

As i stated, i am not blaming mms1.

And in just under three weeks, my face is more or less back to normal; still some pain though.

[neutron flux]

I'd think twice about MMS, as it seems he's COINTELPRO selling you a toxic product:

MMS is labeled as 'water purification drops' and comes in a 118ml plastic bottle. But it could also fairly be labeled, 'bleach', 'industrial cleaner', 'textile stripper' or 'disinfectant' because that is what Sodium Chlorite, the active ingredient in MMS, is most often used for. Mr Humble's MMS protocol advises adding anywhere from 15 to 30 drops of this industrial cleaner to some vinegar or lemon juice. This causes a chemical reaction that produces Chlorine Dioxide, a poisonous gas. And then you drink it.

So, let's look at Sodium Chlorite first:

Sodium chlorite is a strong oxidant and can therefore be expected to cause clinical symptoms similar to the well known sodium chlorate such as hypoxia, rupturing of blood vessels and kidney failure. A dose of 10-15 grams of sodium chlorite can be lethal. [...] even small amounts of about 1 gram can be expected to cause nausea and vomiting.

And now Chlorine Dioxide:

Chlorine dioxide is used primarily for bleaching of wood pulp, but is also used for the bleaching of flour and for the disinfection of municipal drinking water. The toxic effect on humans are generally the same at those associated with sodium chlorite.

Humble's protocol suggests taking up to 60 drops (or more) per day. There are 20 drops in one gram, which means that Humble is advocating the ingestion of 3 grams or more, which is three times the amount required to produce nausea and vomiting and 20% of the amount required to kill you.

Across his umpteen slick websites, Humble attempts to spin these seriously negative side effects that people are sure to experience if they use his MMS by saying:

Nausea will indicate that MMS is destroying more pathogens than the elimination system can handle. If diarrhea and or nausea occurs wait longer between doses and increase later very slowly.

Diarrhea is a good sign.

Many people drink MMS early morning and late evening. Some suggest drinking an MMS dose every four hours. It matters little. You decide how rapidly you want MMS to exhibit results. Diarrhea is a sign that detoxification is occurring (good). It subsides in a few days.

The normal maximum is 15 drops morning and night but for people who have little body weight, or for children, reduce the number of drops proportionately. Fifteen drops twice per day for five days would complete your detoxification in most cases. Some people achieve 30 drop maximum

This instruction statement was generated from the writings of the inventor - Jim Humble. Users are not restricted to any specific dosage or timings. It's virtually impossible to overdose on MMS because you would throw up if a mixture were accidentally mixed backwards or when mis-counting the drops

That is to say, it's virtually impossible to kill yourself with MMS because your body violently rejects (through diarrhea and vomiting) even very small doses of MMS.

Now, we are not contesting the anti-viral and bacterial effects of sodium chlorite, but ingesting something that is designed primarily to disinfect and bleach surfaces is reckless, and Humble's cavalier attitude to the dangers of his products is at the very least morally criminal.

Indeed, Laura has had personal experience with Humble's MMS. Her daughter followed the protocol as prescribed by Mr Humble and it was only through immediate and effective counter-measures that she did not require hospitalization. Several of SOTT's research group members had similar and less than 'miraculous' experiences using MMS.

Perhaps this is the reason that MMS is sold only as 'water purification drops' and why on many of the websites that sell MMS, there is a disclaimer:

Miracle Mineral Solution is a water purification product. It is NOT a mineral supplement nor is it sold as a mineral supplement of any kind. Though often referred to in acronym (i.e. "MMS"), an important distinction must be made between Miracle Mineral Solution and the "MMS Protocol" established elsewhere and detailed exhaustively by third party sources.

While it is true that when Miracle Mineral Solution is activated, the chemical compound chlorine dioxide is produced, MMS is NOT chlorine dioxide. If your privately intended use for Miracle Mineral Solution is to activate it (i.e. convert it to chlorine dioxide) it is advised you thoroughly read all related material, consult a healthcare professional and study various third party resources, some of which, are made available here for your safety and convenience.

Which, when combined with Humble's enthusiastic advocacy for the ingestion of his product, amounts to "do so at your own risk, but DO IT! It will heal you, just ignore all those warnings that this is highly toxic to your body and believe that it's miraculous!"

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http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1160237

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http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207489-Another-Fraud-Of-Alternative-Medicine-M-M-S-

The launchpad for the mania surrounding MMS - which 'went viral' through marketing characterized by religious fervor - is Humble's fantastic claim to have cured malaria in tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. According to this Harvard paper on Malaria and the Red Cell:

"The last point at which life cycle of the malarial parasite can be frustrated in humans is at the phase of red cell invasion and multiplication. Red cells are constantly created and destroyed as part of their life cycle. A mutation that somehow destroys both the infected red cells and the parasite could therefore eliminate the malaria parasite. The destroyed infected cells would be replaced by new, healthy cells. "

Now, remember that the active ingredient in MMS is sodium chlorite. This is known to cause hemolysis in humans - 'hemolysis' is the destroying or rupturing of red blood cells.

So MMS in its evilness is actually killing red blood cells and only killing the malarial parasite as a by-product. Consumers of this 'miracle cure' run the risk of developing anemia. This is not unlike standard allopathic drugs like those used in chemotherapy, where the cancer is targeted by killing all the surrounding healthy cells too!

It turns out that Humble wasn't the first to patent this concept:

The Intellectual Property for Humble's claims was lodged in the late 90's, and not by him.

It was lodged by OXO Chemie Ag, a private Swiss biotech company specialising in clinical trials and solutions relating to the immune system, specialising in changes in patterns to red blood cells. [...] World Intellectual Property Organization, patent number WO/1999/017787, was titled "Use of a chemically-stabilized chlorite solution for inhibiting an antigen-specific immune response."

Given our new found personal interest in Mr Humble, we decided to look a little closer at this purveyor of miracle bleach. This guy has an interesting past in deep black military research projects. His own bio says that:

Jim started his career in the Aerospace industry where he quickly became a research engineer. He worked on the first intercontinental missile, the moon vehicle, wrote instruction manuals for the first vacuum tube computers, set up experiments for A-bomb explosions, worked on secret radio control electronics, set up experiments in electrical generation by magneto hydro dynamics, complete wired the first machine to be controlled by computers at Hughes aircraft company and invented the first automatic garage door opener.

Set up experiments for A-bomb explosions? That's quite a dramatic change of orientation you've undergone Jim. You went from inventing the most efficient technologies with which to kill as many people as possible, to stumbling upon a 'miracle bleach' while prospecting for gold in the jungles of Guyana that you now claim cures every disease known to man.

Any regrets about your past with the military industrial complex?

"For a number of years there I was sort of locked out on the edge of science on a number of different projects and, eh... I had a lot of fun! And then the Cold War came to an end and the aerospace industry came to an end so I went into mining - gold mining of course. I was thinking that I could make a lot of money in gold mining."