Miracle Mineral Supplement

[coco]

Ah great! Thanks Patrish. I'll check it out. I don't think I would mind having at least the energy of a teenager again (or so I say after all these years ha! ha!)

Yes! I will keep ex-sheep and dear pure energy in my thoughts too. To quote the silly television character Red Green, "We're all in this together".

[ex sheep]

Thanks for all the good vibes :)

I would like to ask, which juice do you drink it with I have found one, its apple juice 100% and it says no added preserves, but it does not say anything about added vit C.
I e-mailed the company and they said no added vit C. but somehow I'm not so sure. It is made from concentrate.
http://www.sunmagic.co.uk/product_full.aspx?id=1


I want to be sure that I am not mixing it with anything that might make it not work.

[coco]

Thanks for all the good vibes :)

I would like to ask, which juice do you drink it with I have found one, its apple juice 100% and it says no added preserves, but it does not say anything about added vit C.
I e-mailed the company and they said no added vit C. but somehow I'm not so sure. It is made from concentrate.
http://www.sunmagic.co.uk/product_full.aspx?id=1


I want to be sure that I am not mixing it with anything that might make it not work.

Hmmm, they don't have the ingredients listed but then again they claim everything is 100% natural. No preservatives, no artificial sweeteners for flavors.

Maybe it is best you visit the store and read the labels of juices. I know it's time consuming and boring but in my experience 'a verbal isn't worth the paper it's written on' when it comes to sales unless someone here can confirm there is no ascorbic acid aka Vitamin C added.

In this video demonstrating how to mix MMS, the gentleman suggests Robinvale Bio Dynamic Red Grape Juice as his preference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEfTeDG8X8

[eyeballkid88]

Well its great that your all on this path......

I am still amazed that this guy(who I am very nervous for in the long term) has come out with something predictably simple, that can genuinely change the world...

his examples of the pharma industry no giving a fuck about us and focusing purely on the money, are disgusting(as usual)....

This truly fantastic and Im now thinking for anyone I know that may need some of this stuff, plus me for my teeth.....

what a great man....

[queenofleon]

I brushed my teeth with it and I saw results straight away, but my tummy went mental and I didnt even swallow it, I am now dreading drinking it!!

[lupa]

dont be such a baby! lol


yes the taste is rather disgusting when you get to top drops, i never bother with juice i just top up with a little de-ironised water. if you hold your nose for a couple of minutes there is no taste or smell at all. yesterday my teeth were so painful, i'd been out with the dog and it was so windy and cold with it too which set the fillings off in my teeth. i was nearly sick with the pain by the time i got back home so i mixed up some mms straight away and instantly the pain vanished ..it would have taken a good 30 mins probably for a paracetomol to kick in which i don't like taking if i can help it.

think patrisha mentioned the bath ..i use 40 drops for a really deep bath. once week i'm doing that now ..the drops in the bath method really leaves me feeling cleansed all over

[ytch]

Hello,

I hope this question has not been asked a hundred times before on this thread,
but where can I get MMS?

I´m living in germany right now.

Thanks in advance,

Love and laughter,

ytch

[coco]

Hello,

I hope this question has not been asked a hundred times before on this thread,
but where can I get MMS?

I´m living in germany right now.

Thanks in advance,

Love and laughter,

ytch


http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/

It appears to be a UK site though.

[lupa]

Hello,

I hope this question has not been asked a hundred times before on this thread,
but where can I get MMS?

I´m living in germany right now.

Thanks in advance,

Love and laughter,

ytch

http://www.miraclemineral.org/suppliers.php

there are german suppliers in the list in link ytch

[ytch]

Thanks a lot!

[branjo]

I think based on you guys opinions of it that I would like to try this MMS stuff

[ytch]

Just ordered some yesterday...

[coco]

Good luck to you both! Take it slowly and methodically. Listen to your body.

[ytch]

Thank you. Will do...

[earthwalkr]

Our MMS arrived today. It really is simple. A baggie of Citric Acid, a bottle of Sodium Chlorite and an empty bottle to mix it in. I read all the info on it and felt, why not?
They do say to start out with only 2 drops a day and gradually increase. If you have a disease, it'll take more. Lots of websites out there on all of this if you look. They give you so much more info.
Tonight I will be taking my first dose. I'll share with you any changes that I notice.

[ytch]

Yeah and jibbeee,

mine arrived today, extraordinary quick supplier I must admit,
I´m quite exited, I´m gonna do my first dose tonight, one drop,
I´ll keep you posted.
If I do not post for more than three days, please call 0049- ......:D

It´s a bit scary though, the bottle is filled with the usual warnings
for chemicals etc, it´s not allowed to sell this stuff for anything else
but water desinfection where I live...

love and lollipops,

ytch

[coco]

Well, I have a sensitive constitution and MMS has not harmed me. I had to increase the drops slowly as my stomach didn't like the MMS at first, painful gas for the most part. My stomach would get a yucky feeling for a while so I would just stay at a particular dosage for a day or two until I felt I could tolerate more.

[nirvana]

Ive finally sent of for some mms. Im hoping it will get rid of these rashes ive been getting on my fingers for last 12 years.Been to docs hundreds of times they dont know what it is. But the morgellons parasite thing is spot on with my own symtoms .

Ive also got swelling on my wrist for last 2 years due to a wrist injury.Aparently my ulna bone is too long so its rubbing against my wrist joint.

I sent of on friday for it .So should have it soon .


Peace:)

[ex sheep]

Well, I have a sensitive constitution and MMS has not harmed me. I had to increase the drops slowly as my stomach didn't like the MMS at first, painful gas for the most part. My stomach would get a yucky feeling for a while so I would just stay at a particular dosage for a day or two until I felt I could tolerate more.

I am up to 10 drops, but my guts are taking a bit of getting used to it. The taste makes me retch a bit, but the big thing is I am taking it with water, as I have not found apple juice without vit c yet, I have some that says pure organic apple juice, but I don't want to take the risk of there being vit c in it as it will not work. Are there any juices in the uk that you can recommend.

[freedom from within]

Hello to everyone been following this thread for just over a week and bit the bullet and ordered mms and received it Saturday 28/03/09.
i have high blood pressure and am over weight:eek::eek:

so here are my finding after 4 days on mms

Saturday 1/5 and them 2/10 mixed with water.
felt a bit strange at night my sight was a bit funny ever thing seamed more colorfully:D

Sunday 3/15 and 4/20 with water.
decided to stop taking my blood pressure tablets:eek:
had few aches and pains through out the day in joints, stomach and head
at the night my headache got worse so i had 2 pain killers and when to bed
had a really good nights sleep.

Monday 5/25 and 6/30 with water.
OK this is weird i feel great my aches and pains in joints that i have had for years seem to be gone i seem to have more energy and don't feel as hungry any more. Also i must add i have been swilling it around my mouth before swallowing to see if it affects my bleeding gums and this is the 3rd day all i can say is wow my gums don't bleed any more after brushing my teeth. My wife thought i was mad for trying this but seeing me like this has decided to try mms as well. i did feel slightly sick in the after noon but that disappeared later.

Tuesday 7/35 and 8/40 with water
OK i feel even better today i seem to sleep better and now my aches and pains have all gone I'm totally amazed and my mouth and gums feel squeaky clean and my morning bad breath has gone:D

Wednesday 9/45
just about to have my morning dose what can i say i feel great better than have for years.

I will keep you all posted on my progress i will be having my blood pressure checked later will be back to post the result.

I'm so glad i read this thread and must thank you all.
peace and love Andy

[jolinemaria]

:):):):)

[ytch]

I had my third dose (3/15) this morning and it definitly affects my stomack...
But it´s not really nausea, I feel it´s bearable...

Had a strange night yesterday, couldn´t really sleep, my bones and limbs felt like having a slight flu.

I think the toilet- thingy is starting soon:rolleyes:

love and linguini,

ytch

[coco]

That is so great to hear Andy!!!!

[pedsi]

I stopped taking mms about a week ago,I was taking 25 drops twice a day but I was experiencing heavy diorrhea which was interfering with my daily routine(work).I tried cutting back on the dose but the problem persisted so I knocked it on the head.I dont suffer from any ailments and just tried it to see if it had any noticable effects.What I would say is,I do feel genuinely better off for having taking it and I've noticed my fitness levels have improved quite a bit,a couple of the lads I play 5 a side with have commented on this which was quite encouraging.Now I am just using it as a mouthwash and for brushing my teeth which is allso showing great results.
Great stuff:)

[nirvana]

Just got my mms .What can i mix it with dont want to use just water.Should be starting next week with it.


Peace:)

[coco]

Just got my mms .What can i mix it with dont want to use just water.Should be starting next week with it.


Peace:)

Try apple or grape juice but you must insure it does not contain added Vitamin C (ascorbic acid). Please do not use orange juice.

[fxmark]

I'm mixing it with water and Robinsons Natural squash. I've checked the ingredients and it does not list any added vitamin C.

[nirvana]

I'm mixing it with water and Robinsons Natural squash. I've checked the ingredients and it does not list any added vitamin C.


Robinsons has aspatame in i think .

I might get some grape jice.
Peace:)

[fxmark]

Robinsons has aspatame in i think .

I might get some grape jice.
Peace:)


No this one has sugar. Seems they are getting the message now that people don't want artificial crap in their food.

[nirvana]

So mixing mms is as follows {sorry been on a mega binge of the weed}


citic acid 10 % solution use 5 drops

one drop of sodium chlrite 28%

Ive got a plastic bottle 10% citric acid solution refill bottle aswell. I take it this is to fill the glass bottle.

Sorry just comming of the weed and heads all over the place. See how this mms really works lol.


Peace:)

[ytch]

I had 7/35 this morning, expecting at least a little upset stomack or something,
but I felt really good afterwards...knock on wood...
Have some problems sleeping though,
feels somehow similiar to restless leg syndrom mixed with a slight flu,
but only at night...

love and linguster

[ytch]

OK, this morning I had 9 drops...

- yes, the smell gets harder and harder to bear
- it finally shows effects on my digestive system...
- same time I´m hungry, so it´s not like a virus thing
- I´ve got flu- like shivers but without the fever
- my stomack is a little upset after taking it, but absolutely tolorable
- my spellink gets worse:D

Has anyone noticed any "spiritual"effects, or psychological
or however you may want to put it?

The ten drops tonight gonna be a challenge,
especially because I have to work through the night..



love and leaches (don´t worry, just running out of L- words:)

maybe drop the leaches and have another lollipop..

[humito]

I have a rare neurological disease,I wonder if this will help me at all........I am at the point of trying anything as modern medicine cannot help.........does it detox the body and balance PH ?? where can i obtain this product in the UK ??:)

[ytch]

.....does it detox the body and balance PH ?? where can i obtain this product in the UK ??:)

That´s exactly what it´s supposed to do.

Just google Jim Humble(there´s a german site called jimhumblemms.de,
try it with .com maybe.

You´ll find some good info there,
as far as I´m concerned it works,
I don´t know up to what point, but I´m about to find out...

Good luck with your health,
get better NOW,
I´ll send you some energy (no, no pink dolphins, I´m afraid...:D)

love and reLief,

ytch

[coco]

I have a rare neurological disease,I wonder if this will help me at all........I am at the point of trying anything as modern medicine cannot help.........does it detox the body and balance PH ?? where can i obtain this product in the UK ??:)

Some information for you, dear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeZsY7iMiqc


This is a long one - an interview with Mr. Humble

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=948284113233997302


A US based site that ships worldwide - you may be able to get less expensively thru the UK, however.

http://mmsmiracle.com/

An MMS forum designed similiar to the DI forum.

http://www.natmedtalk.com/mms-miracle-mineral-supplement/

[bardofely]

I got as far as 14 drops but couldn't carry on with it because it was making me too tired and washed out feeling to work well. It also hadn't got rid of a cold/flu bug I had until nearly a week after starting on the stuff. It did get rid of a chronic sinus problem I have had though.

I have another friend who gave up when he got to 10 drops. He was getting bad diarrhoea and feeling tired out.

I posted about it at hubpages and someone at Myspace advised to drop down the dosage a lot having had problems with it too, and just take a few drops a week. This I have done and I am very glad I have a bottle here in case I have need of it in future.

In my opinion the stuff works at killing pathogens but it is no good trying to do a course of it if you are leading a very active working life. And at the continued high dosage recommended on the details I received for me and my friend it would have resulted in being really ill and I would have not been able to work.

My hub on the subject is here:

http://hubpages.com/_uq6h62db2t97/hub/Jim-Humble-and-MMS-or-the-Miracle-Mineral-Supplement

[hagbard_celine]

I'm thinking of trying it.:) I met an elderly couple at a conference whom I've known for many years and they're looking so healthy after taking MMS.

[nirvana]

Ive started taking mms now.Started yestday on 2 drops and today gone upto 4 drops.Cant feel any upset stomach or anything yet.Maybe change when i go higher. Also can you smoke weed while taking this?



Peace:)

[ytch]

Hey there,

I had to take a break yesterday, took 13/ 65 in the morning,
two hours later I was excrementing liquids, yes, the most liquid it could possibly get, but still...

...I don´t feel sick, just...I don´t know...

A little weak, that´s all.
And my stomack is cramping every 30 minutes.

It´s still the same today, didn´t eat at all, but even that feels fine and "right"(?)

I´m a little afraid of continueing this, I guess I´ll start again with 10/ 50 tonight.

Any suggestions?

love and low bloodsugar,

ytch

[coco]

Hey there,

I had to take a break yesterday, took 13/ 65 in the morning,
two hours later I was excrementing liquids, yes, the most liquid it could possibly get, but still...

...I don´t feel sick, just...I don´t know...

A little weak, that´s all.
And my stomack is cramping every 30 minutes.

It´s still the same today, didn´t eat at all, but even that feels fine and "right"(?)

I´m a little afraid of continueing this, I guess I´ll start again with 10/ 50 tonight.

Any suggestions?

love and low bloodsugar,

ytch


Perhaps you are escalating the dosage too quickly. Maybe you should back down on the number of drops and level at a dosage for a few days. :)

[ytch]

Ive started taking mms now.Started yestday on 2 drops and today gone upto 4 drops.Cant feel any upset stomach or anything yet.Maybe change when i go higher. Also can you smoke weed while taking this?



Peace:)

Hey, nice to have you on board!

Weed works fine for me, don´t do much, but regulary before sleeping.
(of course I DON´T, prank- call, prank- call!!:rolleyes:)

But I try not to take anything like caffeine, nicotine etc within the first hour
after taking mms.

So, be safe.

love and lollipops,

ytch

[ex sheep]

Hey there,

I had to take a break yesterday, took 13/ 65 in the morning,
two hours later I was excrementing liquids, yes, the most liquid it could possibly get, but still...

...I don´t feel sick, just...I don´t know...

A little weak, that´s all.
And my stomack is cramping every 30 minutes.

It´s still the same today, didn´t eat at all, but even that feels fine and "right"(?)

I´m a little afraid of continueing this, I guess I´ll start again with 10/ 50 tonight.

Any suggestions?

love and low bloodsugar,

ytch

Yes that means it's working, just have to cut back a little, it's so easy to get confident and over do it, like I did last week.

I took 10/50 in the morning, and thought hey this is easy, I took another 10/50 2hrs later.

Best way to describe it was like one of those pressure washers that you do the car with, and that was every 15mins for 4hrs, was I glad when that was over, phew !

I have cracked the taste now.

Take a whole pineapple, and liquidise it add some water to thin out,
fantastic, no more taste, I was beginning to detest that taste so much, my skin turns goosebumps just thinking about it.

But now I'm just all air now, but you can have some fun trying to make tunes.

[firstlook]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8

[nirvana]

My 3rd day and ive taken 11/55 felt abit sick so had to go for a lye down.Feel ok now after lying down for an hour.


Peace:)

[ex sheep]

My 3rd day and ive taken 11/55 felt abit sick so had to go for a lye down.Feel ok now after lying down for an hour.


Peace:)

Be careful, Jim wasn't wrong when he said there's explosives in there.

[ex sheep]

Benefits I've found so far

A cyst I had on my leg has gone.

A wart I have on my thigh has nearly gone, I have taken a before/after and will post the results when it has gone.

The lump in my mouth I have not noticed any change but it's early days yet.

My skin feels soft.

I sleep much better.

I feel MUCH fitter.



Side effects

Sometimes a few headaches.

Stomach feels queezie sometimes.

Taste, say no more. but as stated before, fresh pineapple liquidised, no taste:)

Can be like the space shuttle when taking off, if your not careful.

But on the whole(pun intended) it's not too bad, I'm gonna stick with it.

[ytch]

Yes that means it's working, just have to cut back a little, it's so easy to get confident and over do it, like I did last week.

I took 10/50 in the morning, and thought hey this is easy, I took another 10/50 2hrs later.

Best way to describe it was like one of those pressure washers that you do the car with, and that was every 15mins for 4hrs, was I glad when that was over, phew !

I have cracked the taste now.

Take a whole pineapple, and liquidise it add some water to thin out,
fantastic, no more taste, I was beginning to detest that taste so much, my skin turns goosebumps just thinking about it.

But now I'm just all air now, but you can have some fun trying to make tunes.

:o

Well, maybe I AM a sissy after all...

I started with 10/50 after my break, it didn´t get worse nor better with my stomack, still feel a little weakish.
the thing is that I will have to work for two nights on weekend,
and I will need energy and can´t run to the wc every thirty minutes.

So I´m not sure if it´s better to stop completely for the weekend
or to take a lower dosage during the days I work.

I really wanna stick with this stuff, but I won´t have no holidays or free days for the next half year or so.

Does anyone know
how long after taking a dose
the MMS remains working inside the body?

love and lambada

[ytch]

Yes, the taste....

I had no problem at all until 13/65,
but now I just smell it from across the room and I shiver..

I guess I´ll try the pineapple...

Only thing: I don´t like it neither..:D

[ytch]

But on the whole(pun intended) it's not too bad, I'm gonna stick with it.

:D

[ex sheep]

but now I just smell it from across the room and I shiver..

Yip, same as me, it gives me goose bumps when I smell it, must be the body going "oh no, here it comes again"

[ytch]

reminds me...it´s time again..:(:rolleyes::p

[jolinemaria]

.....
Does anyone know
how long after taking a dose
the MMS remains working inside the body?

love and lambada

12 hours.
You can stop the proces by taking vitamin c.

[ytch]

12 hours.
You can stop the proces by taking vitamin c.

That makes sense...

Thank you

[nirvana]

I had 15/75 this morning and felt ok. I drink a cup of tea about 30 mins after. But its when i burp i get this horrible acid in my mouth.I do feel abit weak this maybe due to mms.

How long is it good to take mms for at 15/75 dont want to go higher than this the smell is giving me bad VIBES LOL



Peace:)

[coco]

I can't maintain 15/75 both two daily doses. I do it either in the morning or evening and the other dose of the day is 10-12 drops. Otherwise my tummy is dark and cloudy all day.

[breezinreezin]

I've covered most of the posts in this thread, but haven't read any startling healing as a result of taking this stuff. Nevertheless I've ordered some because it seems to work well as a mouthwash at least. Can anybody say that they've felt a clear, remarkable improvement in their health since taking MMS?

[coco]

Breezinreezin,

I am amazed that the harmless fibrous cyst in my breast has not bothered me for the first time in my life! Sorry to be gross but that cyst is positioned where it can hurt and make the entire breast sore and sensitive to usual things such as walking, sitting up from lying down, lying on my side, making arm use a chore, etc. Some other things I have mentioned about MMS' affects I've noticed........

I take a hormonal medication every three months. During the third month I usually become very tired, my lower back aches, pelvic cramping, headaches, facial blemishes, and a fibrous cyst in my breast becomes inflamed and very sore. I also experience melancholy and my appetite increases. Oh and the hot flashes!

Since taking MMS I can tell you that my lower back has not bothered me, I've only had two minor bouts of pelvic discomfort, no headaches, little melancholy, no blemish breakouts, little tiredness during the day, better sleep, and the fibrous cyst has not acted up at all. No hot flashes but I did have a warm flash a few days ago.

Additionally, my knees, shoulders, and elbows do not bother me like they used to - in fact my knee doesn't bother me at all. The source of the knee issue is probably do to many years of regular walking and stair climbing. The shoulders and elbows I am convinced is due to a good quarter century of fast, furious, and large quantity keying.

[nirvana]

I dont know what benefits ive gotten rom mms yet.I was taking 15/75 and now losing my bottle abit got down to 9/45.The taste is just horrible. Ive been taking mms with pomegranate juice its not worked well to hide the taste. Im getting some orgaic apple juice later as ive been told its the best thing to hide the taste of mms.
Woke up this morning dreading taking mms.The smell just horrible lol.


Peace:)

[ex sheep]

I dont know what benefits ive gotten rom mms yet.I was taking 15/75 and now losing my bottle abit got down to 9/45.The taste is just horrible. Ive been taking mms with pomegranate juice its not worked well to hide the taste. Im getting some orgaic apple juice later as ive been told its the best thing to hide the taste of mms.
Woke up this morning dreading taking mms.The smell just horrible lol.


Peace:)

Go to Lidl's, buy a fresh pineapple for £1, cut rings, chop of the skin, liquidise it and add water, hey presto no orrible taste. :)

[breezinreezin]

I'm starting to get a bad vibe about MMS. I watched a video and I just can't shake the feeling that Jim Humble comes across like the snake skin oil salesmen of old. There's something I don't like about him. And I felt the interviewer was a part of the operation as well.

The other thing is that his organisation have preempted any negative or critical views of MMS by putting out the negative tags themselves, but backed by promotional MMS info. That tactic alone tells me that all is not right with this.

Anyhow I'm going to read some of the cricital info to get a balanced picture. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm suspicious is all. Just be careful people.

[breezinreezin]

All I'm saying is lets get a bigger picture of this stuff and any dangers it might pose for long term use, before getting over excited. I'm not meaning to put people off who are benefiting.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Sure, our Jim looks eccentric so to speak, in his cowboy hat....but essentially such impressions are trivial...I feel he is genuine in what he is actually saying.

If MMS can remove dangerous toxins and pathogens from the body.......then......

well.

[cruise4]

"All I'm saying is lets get a bigger picture of this stuff and any dangers it might pose for long term use,"

Yes... that's what we are doing, Mr Codex Alimentarius :D

[ytch]

All discussions aside,
I´m on 15/75 twice a day now, my body seems to have adjusted,
sideeffects gone, only the first hour after taking it has kind of an
"impact"- feeling.

I know I´m supposed to go on 15/75 three times a day now,
that will be another big step...

But I found the pineapple- solution works very well,
so I´ll try to hang on...

love and lala

[truthseekeruk]

Wow, this all sounds very familiar to me. I am treating my two autistic children de-toxing them, here is an extract of part of the treatment protocols I am studying:

Many of the side effects described on this thread sound like yeast die off. There is a lot of evidence to suggest a strong connection between yeast/fungal infections and heavy metals like mercurity toxcitiy, its probably one of the underlying factors in many conditions and the evidence points to a strong link between health of the gut/digestive system and the brain (hence autistic behaviours):O

"All the mainstream medical textbooks talk about how people with hormone imbalances due to pituitary problems get yeast. Mercury causes pituitary problems. (In fact, heavy metals like lead, mercury, and cadmium as well as pesticides and chemicals in plastics we daily use are hormone disruptors—WSL.) As if that isn’t enough, yeast is controlled by neutrophils generating oxygen radicals, and mercury prevents your neutrophils from generating oxygen radicals. So it seems reasonable that mercury toxicity causes yeast problems. The fact that lots of adults with intractable yeast problems have them suddenly go away without special treatment once they started mercury detox supports the view that mercury causes yeast. So, if you are mercury toxic, you have a high chance of having a yeast problem, and the yeast will cause its own symptoms. You can reduce those symptoms modestly if you treat the yeast, but you will never really get better until you treat the mercury—and once you do that, you can stop treating the yeast because your body will be able to keep it in check"—Andy Cutler.

The majority of the population probably have yeast problems,

We are affected through vaccines, over use of antibiotics and modern processed foods, toxins are in furniture plastic fire-proofing/carpets most household toileratries and or cleaners contain toxins, we are literaly being poisioned on all levels, thats why something like MMS is so important.

Heres, some more information and advice about how to deal with "yeast die off" or Herxheimer reaction. Die-off can produce severe regression in all autistic symptoms, explosive diarrhea, severe yeast diaper rash, lethargy, fever, bloating, nausea, vomiting, eczema, aching, headache, stuffiness, seizures, and an intense craving for sweets. This is a quote from Dr. Shaw’s book "Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD": "Many of the yeast byproducts are acids and release of the acids which are absorbed into the body may cause a condition called metabolic acidosis. An extremely simple therapy used by physicians who treat autism is to supply a mild antidote that neutralizes the excess acids. The most convenient product is a nonprescription drug called AlkaSelzer Gold™. Do not use any other kind of AlkaSelzer™. AlkaSelzer Gold™ is simply a very safe product called bicarbonate that helps to neutralize excess acids of any kind.

I am going to order some MMS and try it out. Will keep my AlkaSelzer Gold handy.

One other thing I am curious about, with a lot of the de-tox treatments I am using for my sprogs I have to ensure they take vitamins and minerals supplements because de-toxing can leave the body lacking, also a good quality probiotic is recommended to replenish the gut with beneficial bacteria. Does anyone have any advice about replenishing vits/minerals or if this is needed when following the MMS protocol?

Also does the MMS detoxify the body of heavy metals?

Thanks guys for a really informative thread.

[truthseekeruk]

hey guys I have found the answers I needed, it does detoxify the body of heavy metals and its important to take supplements, because mms flushes out the body so its important to stay nutritionally balanced.

I have ordered a kit to start making the stuff, and ordered some bottles already made up, which are earmarked for a few people I know who are sick with things like cancer.

I also ordered some DMSO cream to mix the MMS with to apply to the skin because my son is fussy about taking things orally, and by the sounds of it this stuff has a rather noticable taste.

Thanks again for starting this amazing thread

[cruise4]

DMSO cream will be interesting. Keep us posted.

On another note I have a RSG-1 Combo Zapper arriving soon, like this one http://freedominhealth.ie/RSG1.html

I didn't pay that price for it though. I also now have a distiller. If something is coming down the pipe I'll try anything to see if we can arrive at some sort of protection. Now if I could just track down some Bulk 80% Sodium Chlorite powder in the UK.

[wearentfree420]

Does anyone know the long term affects?

Anyone been using this for a while now? if so what are the definite changes?

[zzharrispgzz]

[...] Not only would it save billions of human lives and stop so much pain, it could help animal lives too- the billions of animals that are tortured in laboratories in the name of economics.
[...]

Im thinking Kissinger will not be pleased with you - he is currently trying to get rid of 90% of us resource hugging pond life :D!

[truthseekeruk]

DMSO cream will be interesting. Keep us posted.

On another note I have a RSG-1 Combo Zapper arriving soon, like this one http://freedominhealth.ie/RSG1.html

I didn't pay that price for it though. I also now have a distiller. If something is coming down the pipe I'll try anything to see if we can arrive at some sort of protection. Now if I could just track down some Bulk 80% Sodium Chlorite powder in the UK.

Hi have mms, also the kit to make more and the book, very interesting reading. I gave my son 1 drop mixed with pineapple juice yesterday. He didnt really drink very much though probably had about 1/2 a drop in all. I took two drops, and could feel some stomach griping. My son was very calm yesterday which was nice. he kept yawning too. BUT on the way up to bed he repeated "bed" back to me. This is something totally new.

Today the DMSO cream turned up, I mixed up 10 drops mms with teasponful of dmso, and rubbed some of it on his back. So far so good. but something is definitely going on with him. Will keep an eye.

Another coincidence I ordered a collidal silver maker the other day too. I have some in the house already but havent used it for ages. Its supposed to protect against morgellans disease and they have been doing a lot of spraying here lately (chemtrails).

thanks for your reply.

[eyepod]

All I'm saying is lets get a bigger picture of this stuff and any dangers it might pose for long term use, before getting over excited. I'm not meaning to put people off who are benefiting.

I've pointed out a few things in this thread previously about this stuff...

Firstly there is nothing mysterious about MMS. It is chlorine dioxide - THE SAME STUFF IS ADDED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD TO YOUR TAP WATER SUPPLY to kill bacteria, organisms etc in the water.

They use chlorine dioxide to "bleach" water because it is GENOTOXIN and A BIOCIDE i.e. it kills livings things - good or bad, it don't descriminate - no miracles. There is some speculation that it may also be a carcinogen but this has not adequately been proven.

The acceptable amount permited in the water supply is something like 0.5 parts per million parts of water. People taking this as a supplement are taking a known biocide in concerntrations hundreds of thousands of times more potent than this :eek:

I expect any benefit people are deriving from MMS is either 1) they may have some latent parasite, fungal thing going on 2) they are getting a placebo effect off it.

Personaly I wouldn't touch the stuff with a barge pole, let alone pay for the pleasure. But they're your bodies, do as you wish with them - but you owe it to your body to at least check out what you're putting into them...

http://www.hfs.scot.nhs.uk/publications/tn2-98.pdf
Chlorine dioxide, chlorate and chlorite ions are toxic. The WHO
recommended guideline for chlorite in drinking water is 0.2 mg/l. In
order to minimise the risk from ingestion of chlorine dioxide as well as
the precursors and by-products involved in the use of chlorine dioxide
as a disinfection agent for drinking water, the Secretary of State’s legal
requirement is that the combined concentration of chlorine dioxide,
chlorite and chlorate should not exceed 0.5 ppm chlorine dioxide
equivalent (see section 2.3). The measurement of the combined
concentration chlorine dioxide, chlorite and chlorate is described in this
report as “total oxidants”.....

Chlorine dioxide is an oxidising biocide capable of reacting with a wide
range of organic substances including many of the constituents of
bacterial cells. The low levels of chlorine dioxide used in drinking
water inactivate bacteria due to oxidation disrupting a number of
different cell processes.
Several studies show that chlorine dioxide reacts readily with amino
acids [Ref 8] and RNA [Ref 9]. Whether chlorine dioxide attacks the
peripheral structure of the cell or the acids within is still not clear but it
is suggested that oxidation reactions at both of these sites contribute to
cell inactivation.
Other studies have looked at the effect of chlorine dioxide on the
physiological function of cells. These have shown that inactivation is
due to disruption of protein production [Ref 10 ] whilst other studies
[Ref 11 &12] have shown that the chlorine dioxide weakens the
membrane of the cell and inhibits respiration. In general it has been
shown that levels of chlorine dioxide at 0.5 ppm produce an effective
disinfection.http://www.bioquell.co.uk/News.asp?Ctrl=2&id=65
Chlorine dioxide is a carcinogen and genotoxin, which is a chemical that damages cellular DNA resulting in mutations or cancer. When broken down by light and water, chlorine dioxide forms toxic chlorine gas and highly corrosive hydrochloric acid, respectively. Chlorine dioxide is roughly ten times as toxic as hydrogen peroxideIf you google chlroine dioxide you'll find plenty of info regarding it's use in the water supply as a bleaching agent and it's toxicity - these facts are well known and it's toxicity has been exploited for chlorinating water (i.e. killing stuff) for over a century...

[truthseekeruk]

I've pointed out a few things in this thread previously about this stuff...

Firstly there is nothing mysterious about MMS. It is chlorine dioxide - THE SAME STUFF IS ADDED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD TO YOUR TAP WATER SUPPLY to kill bacteria, organisms etc in the water.

They use chlorine dioxide to "bleach" water because it is GENOTOXIN and A BIOCIDE i.e. it kills livings things - good or bad, it don't descriminate - no miracles. There is some speculation that it may also be a carcinogen but this has not adequately been proven.

The acceptable amount permited in the water supply is something like 0.5 parts per million parts of water. People taking this as a supplement are taking a known biocide in concerntrations hundreds of thousands of times more potent than this :eek:

I expect any benefit people are deriving from MMS is either 1) they may have some latent parasite, fungal thing going on 2) they are getting a placebo effect off it.

Personaly I wouldn't touch the stuff with a barge pole, let alone pay for the pleasure. But they're your bodies, do as you wish with them - but you owe it to your body to at least check out what you're putting into them...

http://www.hfs.scot.nhs.uk/publications/tn2-98.pdf
http://www.bioquell.co.uk/News.asp?Ctrl=2&id=65
If you google chlroine dioxide you'll find plenty of info regarding it's use in the water supply as a bleaching agent and it's toxicity - these facts are well known and it's toxicity has been exploited for chlorinating water (i.e. killing stuff) for over a century...

I have looked into MMS and yes we have all been taking it in drinking water for years. Probably why they recommend to drink lots of water ....

However, I have also looked at Jim Humbles website for questions and answers and I found a a few things he had posted on the makeup and possible toxicity of MMS

Every so often someone gets one of those commercial health and safety guide lines for chlorine dioxide and they start worrying. It’s understandable, but not necessary. In those guidelines they are talking about industrial strength chlorine dioxide. Normally they are talking about 10,000 times as much chlorine dioxide as you may be taking. The rats that they fed 100 ppm chlorine dioxide in their drinking water every day for a year were still in good shape. That’s at least 100 times more that you would get in a day’s time and thousands of times more than you would get in a year. And they did it for a year and it still didn’t hurt them.

The two people who took a 40 ppm doses of 250 ml only were slightly sick for 2 hours. Well the 40 ppm is 10 times what you take. The industrial strength safety reports simply do not apply to what MMS gives to the world. But read the reports where chlorine dioxide has been used to purify drinking water for 70 years in thousands of water purification plants through out the world. Or where people have been using a solution called stabilized oxygen for 75 years which is the same exact chemical as MMS. Remember, any chemical, any food, any substance is poisonous in large enough doses. Chlorine dioxide, in the amounts that we use it, cannot harm the body in any way.


Natrium Chloride is another word for sodium chloride which is table salt. MMS is sodium chlorite which releases chlorine dioxide when the alkaline level is made acidic. The chlorine dioxide changes to table salt and discharges oxygen when it hits a pathogen or when it merely deteriorates into salt and discharged oxygen. Chlorate is created in the process when chlorine dioxide oxidizes something, but only in the process. It lasts for less than a second until it too changes into salt. Hypochlorous acid is something that the immune system needs a lot of as that is what it uses to destroy many things in the body that must be destroyed. All in all when taking MMS we are talking about only a few drops a day that contain only a small amount of chlorite. The answer to, “Are these things poisonous is “NO” not in the small amounts used by MMS. None of them remain in the body. They are all washed out. All things are poisonous if you take enough or if they stay in the body to build up. Nothing is left from the MMS except a tiny amount of table salt. Please read my book as all of this is explained there.

Visit www.miraclemineral.org for the MMS book or DVD and www.jimhumble.com for more info.



Dangerous, well of course, so is aspirin, so is chlorox bleach, so is table salt, and so on. If you were to throw it into a fire, it would be dangerous. Most chemicals are dangerous. In your laundry room and under your sink there are a number of chemicals just as dangerous. If you will look any of these chemicals up in a chemical dictionary it will tell you the same. You have to use them correctly. It’s the nature of chemicals. Each tiny ion of MMS is just as dangerous to the anaerobic pathogens in your body. Used correctly it is not dangerous to anyone. Just follow the simple instructions and there is no danger. For further information please visit my web site at www.miraclemineral.org


As you say its up to us, but I feel really comfortable having a choice and control over what I put into my body and since I am already treating my children with biomedical intervention which incidentally is treated in a dismissive manner by the medical establishment I have reached a point now where I have a very strong distrust of the medical profession the only person I now trust to treat myself and my family is ME. Big Pharma have been poisioning mankind for far too long. My children paid a high price for my blind trust in the medical profession now I am taking steps to undo that damage which was done deliberately via the vaccines they were injected with. I witnessed my son loose the ability to recognise me (his mother) or his own reflection in the mirror. My daughter became incontinent lost all speech (there are many other problems that I wont list here but you get the picture) they have come a long way since then. This damage was done deliberately by the very people who are supposed to protect children.

If you dont want to take it thats your choice, but I will never trust another doctor with my childrens health ever again!

Your statement I expect any benefit people are deriving from MMS is either 1) they may have some latent parasite, fungal thing going on 2) they are getting a placebo effect off it.

Have you seen the list of illnesses that people have actually reported recovering from ... There is something amazing about this stuff. You know something I always felt with all the biomedical research I have done with my children that all these interventions seemed overly complicated but the whole thing hinged on cleansing, detoxifying and allowing the body to heal itself. MMS simplifies this. Thats why it makes pefect sense to me and it certainly is having an amazing effect on myslef and my children.

I knew when i saw the video of Jim Humble that he is totally genuine (you see I have learned to trust my instincts) there is no need to trust what anyone else says. I dread the day when big pharma gets alerted to this and get their claws into it, I reckon they will make up some bad batches and sell them to people which will hurt them or possibly kill them banning the sale of MMS. I wouldnt trust these drugs cartels as far as I can throw them. The last thing they want is a healthy population who have the ability to self medicate, they have tried all they can to discredit and are now trying to close down and wipe out the alternative medicine market with codex alimentarious. Its up to people to put the word about MMS out to as many others as possible before these power hungry deceivers act!

I appreciate your trying to inform people but it really is a personal choice.

Peace health and long life to all

[eyepod]

As you say its up to us, but I feel really comfortable having a choice and control over what I put into my body and since I am already treating my children with biomedical intervention which incidentally is treated in a dismissive manner by the medical establishment I have reached a point now where I have a very strong distrust of the medical profession the only person I now trust to treat myself and my family is ME. Big Pharma have been poisioning mankind for far too long. My children paid a high price for my blind trust in the medical profession now I am taking steps to undo that damage which was done deliberately via the vaccines they were injected with. I witnessed my son loose the ability to recognise me (his mother) or his own reflection in the mirror. My daughter became incontinent lost all speech (there are many other problems that I wont list here but you get the picture) they have come a long way since then. This damage was done deliberately by the very people who are supposed to protect children.

If you dont want to take it thats your choice, but I will never trust another doctor with my childrens health ever again!

Your statement

Have you seen the list of illnesses that people have actually reported recovering from ... There is something amazing about this stuff. You know something I always felt with all the biomedical research I have done with my children that all these interventions seemed overly complicated but the whole thing hinged on cleansing, detoxifying and allowing the body to heal itself. MMS simplifies this. Thats why it makes pefect sense to me and it certainly is having an amazing effect on myslef and my children.

I knew when i saw the video of Jim Humble that he is totally genuine (you see I have learned to trust my instincts) there is no need to trust what anyone else says. I dread the day when big pharma gets alerted to this and get their claws into it, I reckon they will make up some bad batches and sell them to people which will hurt them or possibly kill them banning the sale of MMS. I wouldnt trust these drugs cartels as far as I can throw them. The last thing they want is a healthy population who have the ability to self medicate, they have tried all they can to discredit and are now trying to close down and wipe out the alternative medicine market with codex alimentarious. Its up to people to put the word about MMS out to as many others as possible before these power hungry deceivers act!

I appreciate your trying to inform people but it really is a personal choice.

Peace health and long life to all

To be honest I haven't looked into MMS itself to much of an extent or Jim Humble himself. After briefly looking at Humble's website and realising MMS was chlorine dioxode it rang alarm bells as I was aware that it was used to chlorinate water. Looking at the recommendations of the WHO of 0.5 PPM and the amounts people here seemed to be taking in terms of PPM I just thought, this is nuts.

I have stayed out of the thread for the most part except for a few comments here and there. My intention was not to put people off a genuine cure but it did not appear to be a cure at all - quite the opposite.

If what he is saying is true in terms of the MSM's PPM quantities then I guess then the danger would not be as significant and if the mode of action is as is claimed then maybe it does work.../shrug

I was kind of interested in the theories behind this stuff because if what is being claimed is true - i.e. the break down of chlorine dioxide into sodium chloride and releasing it's two oxygen atoms into the body then it's mode of action, the extra oxygen does make sense especially for cancer and such. Incidentely this appears similar to the mode of action claimed for Hydrogen Peroxide and Ozone both of which breakdown and release their extra oxygen atoms.

http://educate-yourself.org/hp/index.shtml

I've no reason to take it myself as thankfully I don't have anything wrong with me.

Anyway at least you have looked into yourself and are satisfied that it's the right thing to do. Hope your kids get better again :)

[time2wakeup]

After some strong vomiting experiences from the MMS (i know it was probably a good thing) and not being able to cope with the vile taste and smell (me room stunk with the leaking bottle of MMS). I now want 2 start on the MMS to use for toothbrushing. I have read somewhere that someone uses apple cider vinegar rather than lemon. I thought this was interesting and just wondered if it is the norm to do away with the lemon when used for toothbrushing.
I have a serious eye infection and just wondered if people thought it would be Ok to use it on my eyes. I have been unable to find cases of MMS and eye treatments/healing on the web, but u can buy an eye dispenser with the offical MMS kit. I tried a eye cleanser from a first aid box, but to be honest it made my infection worse. The only thing that I got relief from my eye infection is the Miracle II neutralizer and I must say how impressed I have been with the improvment in my eyes in the short period of time. I remember hearing a remarkable testamony on this product a while back , about a 'dead car' starting after a few drops where added 2 the engine! The miracle II soap also has a string of testamonies of healing of various diseases/conditions.

[jammasterj13]

I've been using MMS for about a month. Bought it from a US site along with the citric acid.

I'm up to 7 drops twice a day.

I gotta say this stuff is amazing. I had the inital detox shock, extreme tiredness, nausea, headaches, the runs:D

A month later, my sinusitis is gone, my acid reflux has gone. Brain fog gone. Energy levels are higher. Sleep is energising. Skin is very clear. Feel very calm and relaxed.
Digestive system seems to work as it should, no blocked pipes:D

It's important to drink a lot of water as this helps your organs flush out the toxins and parasites a lot quicker.

All in all very impressed with this stuff.

[specialk85]

I heard/read somewere that at least one person has died from taking mms. Anyone know anything about this? Or it it just bullshit?

[breezinreezin]

I've been using MMS for about a month. Bought it from a US site along with the citric acid.

I'm up to 7 drops twice a day.

I gotta say this stuff is amazing. I had the inital detox shock, extreme tiredness, nausea, headaches, the runs:D

A month later, my sinusitis is gone, my acid reflux has gone. Brain fog gone. Energy levels are higher. Sleep is energising. Skin is very clear. Feel very calm and relaxed.
Digestive system seems to work as it should, no blocked pipes:D

It's important to drink a lot of water as this helps your organs flush out the toxins and parasites a lot quicker.

All in all very impressed with this stuff.

It seems that you've had some good results. Can you tell me a bit more about the brain fog, I've read about it elsewhere, but I'm not clear on what it means. Probably my own brain fog:confused:

[alternative_answer]

Can someone please point me to a UK supplier of MMS that comes already made up, and that does not involve having to make up any of it yourself and is good value for money. Thanx.

[alternative_answer]

Is de-ionised water the same as destilled water. I have just made up citric acid solution with 9 parts water to 1 part crystals, 9 spoons water to 1 spoon crystals using de-ionised water. IS this correct?

[jammasterj13]

It seems that you've had some good results. Can you tell me a bit more about the brain fog, I've read about it elsewhere, but I'm not clear on what it means. Probably my own brain fog:confused:
Brain fog was related to my sinus infection. When you can't breath clearly and deeply it creates a lot of pressure in your head, especially the forehead and it affects your concentration levels and basically you feel tired in your head.

People who suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome also have this affliction, the MMS kills the virus/parasites which cause CFS.

I did a lot of research with the MMS. Watched all the videos, read the ebooks. Watched testimonial videos on youtube. This stuff is revolutionary. I spoke to my GP about it, he's a family friend, gave him all the links to MMS and he was very interested.

I would rather take MMS and than be pumped full of antibiotics and other pharmaceutical poisons which do nothing other than destroy my immune system.

Keep the faith!

[jammasterj13]

Is de-ionised water the same as destilled water. I have just made up citric acid solution with 9 parts water to 1 part crystals, 9 spoons water to 1 spoon crystals using de-ionised water. IS this correct?
Don't worry about the water, tap water is good enough. The MMS solution will kill any impurities in the water

Yep, 1 tablespoon of citric acid crystals to 9 tablespoons of water.

[breezinreezin]

Brain fog was related to my sinus infection. When you can't breath clearly and deeply it creates a lot of pressure in your head, especially the forehead and it affects your concentration levels and basically you feel tired in your head.

People who suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome also have this affliction, the MMS kills the virus/parasites which cause CFS.

I did a lot of research with the MMS. Watched all the videos, read the ebooks. Watched testimonial videos on youtube. This stuff is revolutionary. I spoke to my GP about it, he's a family friend, gave him all the links to MMS and he was very interested.

I would rather take MMS and than be pumped full of antibiotics and other pharmaceutical poisons which do nothing other than destroy my immune system.

Keep the faith!

OK. I think I get you. Well, anyway, I'm going to give it a run and see what happens.

[jammasterj13]

Can someone please point me to a UK supplier of MMS that comes already made up, and that does not involve having to make up any of it yourself and is good value for money. Thanx.
Stick to making it yourself.
That way you can monitor your progress and you will know exactly how many MMS drops are in your solution.

Don't be lazy!

[jammasterj13]

OK. I think I get you. Well, anyway, I'm going to give it a run and see what happens.
You won't be dissapointed.
Just hang in their when you start. Begin with one drop MMS twice a day. Slowly increase the amount of drops. Don't rush into it. And don't expect the skies to rumble and the Earth to shake. This stuff is subtle.
It may seem like nothing is happening but trust me it is. This is a long term process, not an overnight wonder.
It will destroy the poisons in your body but won't get rid of them. Thats your bodies job.
Drink plenty of water. This will help your body flush out all the poisons destroyed by the MMS
So be patient while your organs expel all the crap. thats the detox shock.

Good Luck.

[alternative_answer]

Don't worry about the water, tap water is good enough. The MMS solution will kill any impurities in the water

Yep, 1 tablespoon of citric acid crystals to 9 tablespoons of water.

I used a teaspoon, can you point me anywhere that says tablespoons?

[alternative_answer]

Stick to making it yourself.
That way you can monitor your progress and you will know exactly how many MMS drops are in your solution.

Don't be lazy!

It's not about being lazy, I wanna make sure I'm taking the correct mixture and getting the absolute benefit from it.

[jammasterj13]

I used a teaspoon, can you point me anywhere that says tablespoons?
It's listed in the Standard MMS Protocol by Jim Humble.

Go to this site. It has everything you will ever need to know about MMS and its creator Jim Humble.

www.themiraclemineralsupplement.com

[wearentfree420]

Does anyone know if this stuff gets rid of toxins stored in fat? or is it just the stomach?

[breezinreezin]

I'm up to 4/20 using fresh lime drops. I'm not really noticing much. I've got the lung irritation already, but that's all I've noted. Apart from a skin condition I have, that I bathe in 5/25. That seems to be responding well. That alone would be a real massive bonus, if it's down to the MMS.

As for the taste, I just think it's like accidently swallowing a mouthfull of swimming pool. No big deal at 4 drops.

[nirvana]

Ive gone down to 5/25 now was up at 15/75 for a few days but rushed too much and got ill :D

Take your time with this.

Ive got chronic swelling to my left wrist was woundering wether applying mms to the skin would have any good effects and reduce the inflammation.

Anyone tried mms for swelling ?


Peace:)

[lupa]

Don't worry about the water, tap water is good enough. The MMS solution will kill any impurities in the water

Yep, 1 tablespoon of citric acid crystals to 9 tablespoons of water.


if you use tap water, remember that tap water is not clean so by using it the mms will be going to work on what is in the water so by the time you drink it yes the water will be clean but the mms will have lost some of it's strength.
it says use tap water as a very last resort in jim humbles book.

it seems i bought my mms just in time..been wondering about jim humble as he lives in mexico doesnt he....i bet he's busy

[ytch]

Hi,
I had to take a break after my last week of 15 drops twice a day,
it just did´t go along with my night- working schedules.

But I´m definitly starting over soon,
because after this short time it already showed positive effects.

My eating behaviour changed naturally from bad to good (at least MUCH better)
Sinusitis and chronical bronchitis are much better
Skin problems gone better for the first time since years,
but returned worse after stopping mms.

So at least it works for parasites like funghi and thelike I guess.

But I strongly recommend a generous plus of vitamins, minerals and WATER.
My body showed a big lack of those shortly after usage.

I´d really like to hear and experience myself,
what happens after a full run.

So, please keep posting,

love and lillies,

ytch

[21_12_2012]

I just ordered a bottle.
Very interesting thread.

[macleodmunro]

I've just ordered a couple of extra bottles as backup, just in case with this pandemic shite that's happening.

[2x4b]

Hi,
I've been following this for a while, and have decided to take the plunge and try MMS. If it works, that's wonderful. If not - I've not wasted much.

Can anyone verify or comment on the following quote?


MMS Professional™ is the only professional grade MMS on the market, manufactured by an FDA certified GMP compliant Nutraceutical company and packaged for the utmost in quality and safety. Look for the MMS Professional™ label when using MMS or recommending this product to your clients or customers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this stuff couldn't get FDA approval? Does this make this particular supplier suspect? Should I be worried that the FDA is involved?


If anyone knows a reliable and honest retailer in Australia, I'd appreciate a link. So far I've found http://www.miraclemineralsupplement.com.au/products

[coco]

Hi,
I've been following this for a while, and have decided to take the plunge and try MMS. If it works, that's wonderful. If not - I've not wasted much.

Can anyone verify or comment on the following quote?




Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression this stuff couldn't get FDA approval? Does this make this particular supplier suspect? Should I be worried that the FDA is involved?


If anyone knows a reliable and honest retailer in Australia, I'd appreciate a link. So far I've found http://www.miraclemineralsupplement.com.au/products


It doesn't specifically say it is FDA approved but rather produced at a facility that adheres to FDA operational guidelines. That is my impression.

Gotta be careful with words, how they are arranged and how said words are perceived. Worked with lawyers and insurance and tax issues too much in the past but at least I'm able to understand their unique form of language. Such past experience has also made me over analytical.

Bear in mind that quoted phrase was created by marketers to market a product. Ask yourself: What is GMP? Nutraceutical? What does it/they do? What is the FDA approving it for? Look behind those impressive initials and how they are arranged in a sentence and through research you will find your answer. :)

[coco]

What is GMP?

http://www.fda.gov/CDRH/DEVADVICE/32.html

The current Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) requirements set forth in the Quality System (QS) regulation are promulgated under section 520 of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act. They require that domestic or foreign manufacturers have a quality system for the design, manufacture, packaging, labeling, storage, installation, and servicing of finished medical devices intended for commercial distribution in the United States. The regulation requires that various specifications and controls be established for devices; that devices be designed under a quality system to meet these specifications; that devices be manufactured under a quality system; that finished devices meet these specifications; that devices be correctly installed, checked and serviced; that quality data be analyzed to identify and correct quality problems; and that complaints be processed. Thus, the QS regulation helps assure that medical devices are safe and effective for their intended use. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) monitors device problem data and inspects the operations and records of device developers and manufacturers to determine compliance with the GMP requirements in the QS regulation.

What is Neutraceutical?

http://www.drugdevelopment-technology.com/glossary/neutraceutical.html

Neutraceutical is a conjunction of nutritional and pharmaceutical. It refers to a pill or other pharmaceutical product that has nutritional properties.

Conclusion.

The marketers quote is an assurance the MMS product the company produces is in complaince with FDA/FDC and GMP guidlines of production of a substance designed for human consumption. A clean facility, proper documention and labeling, etc. - not necessarily FDA approved.

P.S. Welcome to the forum!

[2x4b]

Thanks Coco.

It had crossed my mind that the company may be FDA-approved, rather than the specific product.

So from that definition, I take it to mean that the FDA are merely saying that the company in question is a legitimate business with safe and clean manufacturing processes, not some dodgy guy in a garage.



Speaking of which

Has anyone seen MMS taking a bad rap in Australia recently due to the woman who was selling it as a cure for cancer. She was INJECTING it into patients via the catheters that were intended originally for their chemo treatments, charging them $2000 in the process. She was doing it in her dirty old garage. There was an expose on TV, and she's recently been charged $12000 and told to stop.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/23/2550810.htm

[ex sheep]

Here are a couple of things that I have noticed,
the other night, I had swollen glands, sore throat, (I had taken a break off MMS for 2 days to replenish with vit C etc) took 5/25 and in the morning, gone, nothing.
Now if that happened to me before, I would go a couple of days with a sore throat.

For the last year, whenever I bend down to do something put on socks, or bend down to pick something up, I always get a groan, its like a pain in the legs, old age I suppose as well.
Now since taking MMS its gone, I even stand up when putting socks on, and bring me knee to my chest while standing on 1 leg, amazing to see the difference.
Loads of things I notice, general fitness, sleep better, and my dreams are so real now, like I'm really there.
Skin really soft.
A cyst I had on my leg has gone.
A wart on my leg has nearly gone, no other treatments by the way.

These things that are happening are real changes, not just some made up crap.
All in all, I am happy with the results so far.

[21_12_2012]

There's a guy on ebay, selling MMS, i dunno if i'm allowed to put a link to it here, but here goes:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jim-Humble-MMS-Miracle-Mineral-2x-Standard-Set_W0QQitemZ330325795960QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Hea lth_Beauty_Vitamins_Supplements?hash=item330325795 960&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

He's claiming that the MMS he sells has been de-energised by a vortex device,
and later re-energised by a special process.

He claims this process is by a Dutch guy named Roel, and it is 'better' than
other MMS versions.

I don't know much about chemistry or anything, and i dont know if this is
just words to sell the product or not, does anybody else have an idea ?

I've checked his feedback and it looks good.

I just ordered mine a few days ago from the MMS online site before i saw this
advert.

It's usually the case with me, i buy something, then look around and see something
similar, or 'better', and think "shit...should i have bought that
instead ?"

[coco]

Thanks Coco.

It had crossed my mind that the company may be FDA-approved, rather than the specific product.

So from that definition, I take it to mean that the FDA are merely saying that the company in question is a legitimate business with safe and clean manufacturing processes, not some dodgy guy in a garage.


Lol, yes!


[/QUOTE]Speaking of which

Has anyone seen MMS taking a bad rap in Australia recently due to the woman who was selling it as a cure for cancer. She was INJECTING it into patients via the catheters that were intended originally for their chemo treatments, charging them $2000 in the process. She was doing it in her dirty old garage. There was an expose on TV, and she's recently been charged $12000 and told to stop.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/23/2550810.htm[/QUOTE]

Wow! That's just wrong of that woman. :mad: She's taking gross advantage of those people and in a dirty environment.

[evea]

call me cynical but i cant find any independent research on this .... only afiliated web sites
does anyone know of any?

[breezinreezin]

there's a dedicated support section in www.curezone.com found here: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=871

Plenty to be getting on with there. One of the biggest talking points is the dosage. A guy called sivlerfox puts up a good argument for radically cutting back on the full dose suggested by Jim Humble, as he says that the nausea and diarrhoea are probably due to intoxication and not a herxheimer reaction. So look out for any posts by him.

[manit]

She deserves everything that she going to get praying on the innocent thats so damm wrong

[manit]

Hi Guys a bit of info on where ya can poss get Sodium Chlorite 80% powder in the uk West Bank Dock Estate, Widnes, Cheshire, WA8 0NY, United Kingdom 0151-424 4281) Omnichem Ltd i think this one is in a liquid
Northern Distribution Centre Mill Street East Dewsbury West Yorkshire WF12 9BQ 01924 461341) Atosina UK Ltd Globe House Bayley Street Stalybridge, Cheshire SK15 1PY United Kingdom Phone : ‎0161 3384411 ) Du Pont (UK) Ltd Wedgwood Way
Stevenage, Hertfordshire SG1 4QN United Kingdom Phone : ‎+44 1438 734
http://www.chemexper.com/ world wide shipping small 250gm flakes and min 2.5kg powder
000 i hope this helps a bit i too would rather buy it and mix it my self seams like a lot of people are cashing in on it.............. L&L to ya all Namaste ..............:D:D

[manit]

Hey Guys this Sodium Chlorite is real hard to find in the UK tried all over the place prob best places is a hardware store any way could you use this stuff tablets instead of powder or liquid?:D

Formula: NaClO2
Synonyms: Sodium Chlorate(III)
Suppliers

• It main ingredient in water purifying tablets.
a dr explains good n bad of mms

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6292918086320201268

[21_12_2012]

Got mine today, started off on 2 drops, no nausea or anything.
I'm excited about this stuff.

:)

[manit]

Hi 21 where did ya end up gettin yours from in uk? is it all mixed up or is is powder or flakes cheers.......i too live in manchester saw a video on utube a dr said its ok to take with a dr supervision and said people can only take between 1 to 5 drops max others 10 just said take it Slow............lets hope it works its magic on ya m8 keep us in formed nice one.........did ya get ya stuff off this guy http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/m00ede02 or here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jim-Humble-Miracle-Mineral-MMS-Jumbo-Set-UK-SELLER_W0QQitemZ330323464364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Supplements?hash=item330323 464364&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A24

[d3v_]

Guys there's a place online you can buy sodium chlorite from but the buggers only sell to legitimate businesses such as a butchers shop or a school/university.
Does anyone here own a business that may have a legitimate use for sodium chlorite and therefore order for the rest of us mere mortals?

http://www.alfa-chemcat.com/onlinecatalogue/produkt.asp?item=14265
(you may have to search for it yourself in that link)

and remember it is TECHNICAL GRADE 80% FLAKE that we are after for MMS use.

[breezinreezin]

Guys there's a place online you can buy sodium chlorite from but the buggers only sell to legitimate businesses such as a butchers shop or a school/university.
Does anyone here own a business that may have a legitimate use for sodium chlorite and therefore order for the rest of us mere mortals?

http://www.alfa-chemcat.com/onlinecatalogue/produkt.asp?item=14265
(you may have to search for it yourself in that link)

and remember it is TECHNICAL GRADE 80% FLAKE that we are after for MMS use.


Please don't forget that MMS is Sodium Chlorite diluted to 28% and this is considered to be to high a concentration to handle safely by some.

[21_12_2012]

Hi 21 where did ya end up gettin yours from in uk? is it all mixed up or is is powder or flakes cheers.......i too live in manchester saw a video on utube a dr said its ok to take with a dr supervision and said people can only take between 1 to 5 drops max others 10 just said take it Slow............lets hope it works its magic on ya m8 keep us in formed nice one.........did ya get ya stuff off this guy http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/m00ede02

I got mine here:-
http://www.mmsonline.info/buy-now.html

It's all ready in bottles, the liquid MMS and the citric acid, plus a spare sachet
of citric acid to make your own (if needed) at a later date.

Took 4 drops tonight, no nausea as yet.
I've been detoxing for a long while before i found out about this stuff, so i
doubt i'll have any nausea or side effects until i increase it to a lot more
drops, but i dont want to rush it too much. Will probably do 2 lots of 4 drops
tomorrow, and 5 the day after. Increasing by 1 a day.

[manit]

Guys there's a place online you can buy sodium chlorite from but the buggers only sell to legitimate businesses such as a butchers shop or a school/university.
Does anyone here own a business that may have a legitimate use for sodium chlorite and therefore order for the rest of us mere mortals?

http://www.alfa-chemcat.com/onlinecatalogue/produkt.asp?item=14265
(you may have to search for it yourself in that link)

and remember it is TECHNICAL GRADE 80% FLAKE that we are after for MMS use.

check my early post names of suppliers of the stuff still waiting for reply's m8 iv been all over manchester to try and get the stuff not a chance in hell only if ya want a 200kg drum of the stuff just dropted my mate a line in ozz to see if he can get me some ? lets see what happens......... found this as well its for ponds cleaning and only has sodium chlorite in it in a liquid so i suppose that would do as well http://www.ardentpets.co.uk/aquatic/.../prod_224.html

[remium]

Hey guys ....started my course last weekend sticking to the protocol ... 1 drop extra each dose, twice a day, after reading up about it decided not to go over the ten drop threshold, so been on the 10:50 threshold since thursday morn twice aday...had absolutely no 'side' effects till after my dose this morning again still 10:50 and an hour after that wham!!! .... chucked like a man possessed and my ass thinks its having a piss party:eek:. whew wee gonna drop back to 8:40 over the weekend then pick it up again.

[manit]

Hey guys ....started my course last weekend sticking to the protocol ... 1 drop extra each dose, twice a day, after reading up about it decided not to go over the ten drop threshold, so been on the 10:50 threshold since thursday morn twice aday...had absolutely no 'side' effects till after my dose this morning again still 10:50 and an hour after that wham!!! .... chucked like a man possessed and my ass thinks its having a piss party:eek:. whew wee gonna drop back to 8:40 over the weekend then pick it up again.

Hi Remium where did ya end up gettin it from cheers m8........

[remium]

Hi Remium where did ya end up gettin it from cheers m8........

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/miraclemineralmms_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZ

from that guy above .... I decided to go with them coz that mms is the true humble 28% solution ...whilst alot of the other peeps selling it on fleabay is only 25%. Plus the seller comes across as genuine and keeps the prices low and i've noticed they've just dropped them again!!! :D Anyway came next day after ordering well wrapped so it's all good.
...btw im from manc too, so if you manage to get a decent supply of sodium chlorite let me know :)

[manit]

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/miraclemineralmms_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZ

from that guy above .... I decided to go with them coz that mms is the true humble 28% solution ...whilst alot of the other peeps selling it on fleabay is only 25%. Plus the seller comes across as genuine and keeps the prices low and i've noticed they've just dropped them again!!! :D Anyway came next day after ordering well wrapped so it's all good.
...btw im from manc too, so if you manage to get a decent supply of sodium chlorite let me know :)

remium i can get it but ya have to have a business like a butcher and get them to order it not easy to get hold of mate check this out in liquid http://www.ardentpets.co.uk/aquatic/.../prod_224.html

[remium]

remium i can get it but ya have to have a business like a butcher and get them to order it not easy to get hold of mate check this out in liquid http://www.ardentpets.co.uk/aquatic/.../prod_224.html

http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/

sells it in powder form to make yerself .... scroll down the page abit. Dunno if thats a reasonable price or not, havnt got any other prices for the powder to compare it against, also your gonna have to either make or buy the distilled water and thats yet more expense....Ive read de-ionised water from the local garage and halfords isnt the right stuff, neither is water thats been purified with reverse osmosis it has to be distilled.... and i drew plenty of blank faces asking for it in the local chemists round here.
Plus as your making a 'donation' you've got no comebacks if you don't recieve the goods ... hmmmm
Suppose you could e-mail him with questions tho.

[manit]

http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/

sells it in powder form to make yerself .... scroll down the page abit. Dunno if thats a reasonable price or not, havnt got any other prices for the powder to compare it against, also your gonna have to either make or buy the distilled water and thats yet more expense....Ive read de-ionised water from the local garage and halfords isnt the right stuff, neither is water thats been purified with reverse osmosis it has to be distilled.... and i drew plenty of blank faces asking for it in the local chemists round here.
Plus as your making a 'donation' you've got no comebacks if you don't recieve the goods ... hmmmm
Suppose you could e-mail him with questions tho.

they reckon de ionised water dont matter coz when ya mix the powder for 3 mins it kills everything i my self would use boil up water leav to stand then do the mix.....i drew plenty of blank faces as you when trying to source Sodium Chlorite in the uk its a joke that they dont want ya ta have the stuff pissis me rite off will let ya know if i get any where with the powder who knows a miracle might happen......

[remium]

Just had a thought...couldnt you blag erm that you've got a private indoor swimming pool and want a simple cost effective chemical cleaning solution and someone told you about sodium chlorite.

Anyways Goodluck :D

[manit]

Just had a thought...couldnt you blag erm that you've got a private indoor swimming pool and want a simple cost effective chemical cleaning solution and someone told you about sodium chlorite.

Anyways Goodluck :D

they said when i phoned up that they don't sell it to individuals must be a business company to open an account and they sell in 500 ml 2kg and 10 kg it well pissed me off i suppose ya could say like ya said have a company pool cleaning etc............:) http://www.alfa-chemcat.com/onlinecatalogue/produkt.asp?item=14265

[21_12_2012]

Anybody else experiencing a slight annoying headache whilst detoxing ?
And occasional small flashing white lights out of the corner of your eyes ?

Or is it just me ? !

:eek:

[coco]

Anybody else experiencing a slight annoying headache whilst detoxing ?
And occasional small flashing white lights out of the corner of your eyes ?

Or is it just me ? !

:eek:

Hmmm, You remind that one night I did have little flashies out the corner of my eye but I just racked it up to being tired which was silly as I hadn't experienced that before or since. Could have been the MMS - I hadn't been on it very long at all when that happened.

[margaretr]

I only found this thread today - and began watching the Camelot video.
Before the video ended I had ordered from
http://www.subtleenergytherapyuk.com/UKstore.html

I have been battling Chronic Fatigue syndrome for a year now, using nutritional supplements.
Our NHS regards it as incurable................. HUMBUG!
I have reached a mid level of wellness and am impatient to be fully well.
I have been hibernating to avoid infections all winter, but with this stuff I will be able to cope with any infectious agent others might throw at me.
Hello World......I'm Back:D

[21_12_2012]

Hmmm, You remind that one night I did have little flashies out the corner of my eye but I just racked it up to being tired which was silly as I hadn't experienced that before or since. Could have been the MMS - I hadn't been on it very long at all when that happened.

Cheers. I've never seen anything like these lights before. Must've had about
6 - 10 of them last night, none today, but a headache that won't go away.

It's bareable though. I think it's a sign that toxins are moving.

[manit]

i think i will order a 1lb bag of sodium chlorite from http://www.mmssupplier.com/international_orders.html $86 = 57 pound GBP in shipping to the uk i dont think it that bad when ppl are charging £20+ for 100ml bottles you dont know whats in them could be anything a 5% mix instead of 28% who knows lets see what happens............:D

[margaretr]

i think i will order a 1lb bag of sodium chlorite from http://www.mmssupplier.com/international_orders.html $86 = 57 pound GBP in shipping to the uk i dont think it that bad when ppl are charging £20+ for 100ml bottles you dont know whats in them could be anything a 5% mix instead of 28% who knows lets see what happens............:D

The ones I ordered (see post#313) are £25 inc postage for two bottles, and each one 'should last one person over a year'.

[remium]

i think i will order a 1lb bag of sodium chlorite from http://www.mmssupplier.com/international_orders.html $86 = 57 pound GBP in shipping to the uk i dont think it that bad when ppl are charging £20+ for 100ml bottles you dont know whats in them could be anything a 5% mix instead of 28% who knows lets see what happens............:D

Good find manit...let me know if it all goes without a hitch, if it does im getting some .... a 1 pound bag could last a person over 10 years :eek: so def a good investment. Considering that uk website is offering 1/2 pound for 70 quid :confused: postage not included lol

[manit]

Good find manit...let me know if it all goes without a hitch, if it does im getting some .... a 1 pound bag could last a person over 10 years :eek: so def a good investment. Considering that uk website is offering 1/2 pound for 70 quid :confused: postage not included lol

http://www.mmssupplier.com/international_orders.html These Guys Are the only ones i have found offering (lb bags of sodium chlorite)and not mixed anywhere and shipped to the UK believe me Ive looked all over the place esp the net its a joke i carnt believe is so damm hard to get the stuff just sent them a email to see if there will be any customs duty on the stuff here in UK if there is prob be to expensive i carnt believe that we in the UK carnt get hold of a few pound bags of SODIUM CHLORITE ether in powder or flakes ............:eek::eek::eek: I go on other forum and ask people where did they get theres from i think US is best we need somebody that's in US to send us the stuff here for a small fee thats what i think...................it aint that expensive........also found........ These are the best prices anywhere.

[manit]

Hi Guys just ordered my 1lb bag of Sodium Chlorite 5 mins a go they wont get my order till Monday from here http://www.mmssupplier.com/international_orders.html payed with paypal a lot more easy than messing a round with credit cards Cost 1lb bag= $49.99 + USD Shipping & Handling: $35.99 USD well chuffed its the best Ive seen for weeks :eek::eek::D and ordered 900 Gram bag of best quality citric acid for a £8.00 ebay OOOOOO yeah..

[remium]

Hi Guys just ordered my 1lb bag of Sodium Chlorite 5 mins a go they wont get my order till Monday from here http://www.mmssupplier.com/international_orders.html payed with paypal a lot more easy than messing a round with credit cards Cost 1lb bag= $49.99 + USD Shipping & Handling: $18.99 USD well chuffed its the best Ive seen for weeks :eek::eek::D and ordered 900 Gram bag of best quality citric acid for a £6.00 ebay OOOOOO yeah..

keep me informed m8...hope all goes good .... 45 quid nice bargain :D

[manit]

Hi Guys by the way what is Chlorine Dioxide is it this Chlorine Dioxide is the mixed state of Sodium Chlorite and the Activator ie 10% Citric Acid Solution or have i got it all wrong?

[21_12_2012]

Hi Guys by the way what is Chlorine Dioxide is it this Chlorine Dioxide is the mixed state of Sodium Chlorite and the Activator ie 10% Citric Acid Solution or have i got it all wrong?


I think that is correct.

My synusitis has cleared up after like 20 years. Not fully, but near enough.
Only been on this stuff a few days. It's definately working.

First time I've woken up with clear synus's since i was a teenager.
My skin seems to have gone softer too and able to think more clearly.

I'm on 6 drops twice a day at the moment, and im using a bit of distilled water
now instead of fruit juice.

[manit]

I think that is correct.

My synusitis has cleared up after like 20 years. Not fully, but near enough.
Only been on this stuff a few days. It's definately working.

First time I've woken up with clear synus's since i was a teenager.
My skin seems to have gone softer too and able to think more clearly.

I'm on 6 drops twice a day at the moment, and im using a bit of distilled water
now instead of fruit juice.

Thats great 21 m8 keep us in the loop m8 Ordered mine a few days a go Should take about 10 days to arrive a 1lb bag of SC cost me £57.00 and a 1lb bag of citric acid £9.00 since then i told a few people about mms damm they want me to order them 1lb bags of the stuff the way this is going i could be a UK Distributor lol just sent off for another 10 1lb bags of SC i think customs will hit me on this one now wow shit:eek: half a pound of SC is £26.00 in the UK and thats is you can get hold of it.. very very hard to get hold of need to stock up and thats what i intend to do. governments all over the place are making it very hard to buying this stuff they dont want you to well they want you to be ill

[21_12_2012]

Thats great 21 m8 keep us in the loop m8 Ordered mine a few days a go Should take about 10 days to arrive a 1lb bag of sodium chlorite cost me £57.00 and a 1lb bag of citric acid £9.00 since then i told a few people about mms damm they want me to order them 1lb bags of the stuff the way this is going i could be a UK Distributor just sent off for another 10 1lb bags i think customs will hit me on this one now wow shit:eek:

ha good stuff mate.

Do you take paypal ? haha

[justawake]

I bought my mms a few months ago, I wasn't ill but the detox appealed to me.

I had suffered from a persistant mild sore throat for about 4 years and my doctor said it could be some sort of mild infection.

I started as instructed with 1 drop am then 2 drops pm then increased by 1 drop each time until I was at 10 drops.

I started to sleep much better although not sure why, and my sore throat cleared up.

But i got very nauseous and had quite bad diarrhea.

I got quite anxious as I was feeling ill and stopped taking it, and felt fine in a couple of days. My sore throat never came back.

I should point out that as soon as you feel nauseous you should reduce the dose for a couple of days, where as I didn't feel too bad to start with so continued taking it, until I felt suddenly quite poorly. I should have held off at the 6 drop level for a few days.

A friend of mine had exactly the same experience.

We should bear in mind that the diarrhea is a natural process that the body goes through to expel toxins from the body. So even though you feel ill, it suggests that the mms is working exactly as it should.

We should also point out that many modern and so called safe medicines have horrendous side effects, and we don't seem too bothered with those.

mms seems to just make you feel a little sick if you take too much at once.

Just for those that keep mentioning tap water, bear this in mind. The tap water in my area is treated with chlorine gas, not chlorine dioxide. They are two completely different chemicals, just as salt is sodium chloride and completely different to chlorine gas.

Also as someone else mentioned before, chlorine dioxide has been used to disinfect water supplies, and that's the whole point. The body is 80% water and if you can get this stuff into the blood stream then it will disinfect the body too.

As for weather or not it is safe to drink, I have no idea. But if you are ill and the drugs don't work, then in my opinion it is well worth a go. The trouble with this is that most people on here discussing it are not ill, and those that are, will be too frightened of the consequences to give up the prescribed drugs and use this instead. I guess we'll have to see where this goes over time.

[21_12_2012]

I've been on it about a week now, and some brilliant things have already
happened.

My synusitis is now gone completely, even first thing in the morning, completely clear, first time in over 20 years.

I've had athlete's foot for over 20 years, nearly cured it last year, but it kept
hanging on...that's now gone completely.

I woke up for the first time in over 20 years this morning without feeling tired,
i was fresh and alert.

I am mentally more confident than probably ever before.

I feel stronger and younger.

I smashed my knee in a few days ago and usually it would take over a week
for the pain to go, but it went in 2 days.

My skin is definately softer and younger looking.

I feel more awake during the day than i have in over 20 years, with more energy.

It is definately working for me. It's the best thing i've ever done.
What a week !

edit:- I had the first bout of diarrhoea today..it was massive ! But it felt good..im sure some sick stuff
came out.

[margaretr]

I am on my second day - using 3 drops a day, and my sense of smell is heightened dramatically

[evea]

hi i know im gonna get shot down in flames
please feel free to id love it if this stuff worked.... who want their child on chemo if there was a viable alternative eh?

ive looked and looked for independent research... ( not affiliated sites or anectdotal stuff .........proper double blind trials, placebo etc etc)

and there is nothing

the only facts i have found out about this stuff
is that its sodium chlorite, which already exists in tap water
and is destroyed by stomach acid

really im not here to rain on anyones parade , but there is no evidence anywhere of it working.....
whilst im sure many people on here have had very positive experiences with it
with respect its not been to treat life limiting/threatening disorders
and i cant trust anectdotes when its my sons life im dealing with

so if anybody comes across some ( not an affiliated or from a alternative medicine site (whilst well meaning ,they have vested interest)research, please could they let me know

[d3v_]

Here you go guys I just uploaded a new MMS documentry http://tracker.conspiracycentral.net/torrents-details.php?id=6993

[cleft_asunder]

hi i know im gonna get shot down in flames
please feel free to id love it if this stuff worked.... who want their child on chemo if there was a viable alternative eh?

ive looked and looked for independent research... ( not affiliated sites or anectdotal stuff .........proper double blind trials, placebo etc etc)

and there is nothing

the only facts i have found out about this stuff
is that its sodium chlorite, which already exists in tap water
and is destroyed by stomach acid

really im not here to rain on anyones parade , but there is no evidence anywhere of it working.....
whilst im sure many people on here have had very positive experiences with it
with respect its not been to treat life limiting/threatening disorders
and i cant trust anectdotes when its my sons life im dealing with

so if anybody comes across some ( not an affiliated or from a alternative medicine site (whilst well meaning ,they have vested interest)research, please could they let me know

I think it's sodium chloride in tap water, not sodium chlorite. And you really need to read the story and science behind it before you for a conclusion.

[cleft_asunder]

Can someone explain to me why citric acid is now being used instead of vinegar? Is it due to marketing? Humble used 5% vinegar originally.

Any way, I ordered a few bottles. Will post up results.

[evea]

I think it's sodium chloride in tap water, not sodium chlorite. And you really need to read the story and science behind it before you for a conclusion.

i did read it,
but no bona fide stated research , no figures, no follow up, what happened to those 'cured of aids ... were the still negative 6 months down the line?
there was only anectdotal!
im awfully aware of the amount of pseudo science out there
fair enough it looks good on mms site and affiliated ones....
but is it sound science?
im not a scientist... i dont know!
are there any chemists on here?

i did find some chemistry research on the effects of sodium CHLORITE as its in tap water ( some good/ some bad)
alot of vetinary research
and some research that it worked well in destroying pathogens but mentioned how it was rendered ineffective orally as stomach acid neutralised the benefits

like ive said it would be fantastic if it worked
i cant risk it if its just snake oil

[cruise4]

I wouldn't risk it if I was you. Stick to Chemo. I'm sure there's charts and followups galore to satisfy your anti-pseudo science stance.

[xpleet]

For god's sake don't do chemo. It is suicide. Telling someone to do chemo is like saying "go kill yourself" in other words, murder by suggestion, in my opinion.


Don't listen to such fools, we know MMS works.

And I say it from pure common sense, not because my mom's ex friend's dad died from chemo. Saw him live while they slowly took him and the last time in his casket before burrying.
God knows how he would be doing today if someone was aware at that time and gave him MMS.


i did find some chemistry research on the effects of sodium CHLORITE

It's not sodium chlorite. Have you researched MMS properly in first place?

Jim Humble explains clearly that Sodium Chlorite is mixed 1/5 with citrus acid forming Chlorine Dioxide.

The difference between Chlorine and Chlorine dioxide is like breathing air with carbon monoxide instead of carbon dioxide - death.

[justawake]

hi i know im gonna get shot down in flames
please feel free to id love it if this stuff worked.... who want their child on chemo if there was a viable alternative eh?

ive looked and looked for independent research... ( not affiliated sites or anectdotal stuff .........proper double blind trials, placebo etc etc)

and there is nothing

the only facts i have found out about this stuff
is that its sodium chlorite, which already exists in tap water
and is destroyed by stomach acid

really im not here to rain on anyones parade , but there is no evidence anywhere of it working.....
whilst im sure many people on here have had very positive experiences with it
with respect its not been to treat life limiting/threatening disorders
and i cant trust anectdotes when its my sons life im dealing with

so if anybody comes across some ( not an affiliated or from a alternative medicine site (whilst well meaning ,they have vested interest)research, please could they let me know

I don't see how anyone could possibly stop a child taking their prescribed medication and try this instead, as you have said there are no proper trials. You just don't know.

We need to remember though that you will never be able to find any proper drug trials of this stuff as BIG PHARMA don't want us to get well. If it worked they would never market it as they would loose so much money.

I believe that " The world health organization " did ask a German scientist to trial it and he did a quick trial that simply concluded that it didn't work in mice, so that was the end of that. Of course we don't know how he treated the mice, or what for, or even at what doses.

Also when this is mixed with citric acid, and activated, it changes from sodium chlorite into chlorine dioxide, and it's the dioxide that does the disinfecting.

[justawake]

Can someone explain to me why citric acid is now being used instead of vinegar? Is it due to marketing? Humble used 5% vinegar originally.

Any way, I ordered a few bottles. Will post up results.

Citric acid is more effective at activating the mms. tastes better too.

I take mine with apple juice, as it covers the smell. If you do this don't use juice with added vitamin c.

[coco]

Some past posts.

I had heard a news report on the radio a few years ago that a urine sample taken from Lance Armstrong (bicyclist) back in 1998 was tested (looking for banned drugs) and they found a drug that increases oxygen in the blood.
I made mention of this in another thread/post in regards to stamina and that Lance beat cancer and out raced everyone, another poster said the drug is EPO and that it increases the bloods red cell count.

Makes perfect sense.

Seems to me that EPO is the perfect partner with ClO2 since the red blood cell carries the chlorine dioxide.



Keep in mind the bloods red cell count increases during fever and that viruses cant reproduce when the bodies temperature is above 101 degrees.

So the body goes into fever, stopping the virus from reproducing, and increases the bloods red cell count to kill the virus.

Erythropoietin, or its alternative erythropoetin (pronounced /ɨˌɹɪθɹoʊˈpɔɪɨtɨn/, /ɨˌɹɪθɹoʊˈpɔɪtən/, or /ɨˌɹiːθɹoʊ-/) or EPO, is a glycoprotein hormone that controls erythropoiesis, or red blood cell production.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietin

MMS doesn't heal anything, it only kills.
The pathogens no doubt effect the body in untold ways, so by killing the pathogens your body is freed up to correct things, your body is the best doctor you have, your mind can be the second best by giving the body the tools to do its job.......

[thelucifer]

Chemo doesn’t address the reasons the cancer can be present/thriving in the body.




Hydrogen Peroxide = oxidizer
Ozone = oxidizer
Stabilized Oxygen (3% MMS) = oxidizer
MMS (28%) = oxidizer

Oxidation kills all pathogens by taking electrons from them.



Blood Electrification - alters the protein layer disabling (not killing) the pathogen, it cannot attach to cells and tissues and is thus expelled from the body.

Magnetic Pulser - A time varying field can induce a significant current in tissue. Magnetic fields and therefore induced currents penetrate all body cells, bones and tissues in proximity to the coil (effective approximately 7 inches deep) and can theoretically neutralize electro–sensitive pathogens and viruses such as herpes B, HIV, hepatitis, Epstein–Barr and possibly many others as yet undiscovered that can hide within nerve sheaths and are therefore untouchable via immune system, white cells, or injectables.


Colloidal Silver - effects/compromises the respiration of the pathogen thus killing it.




Taking electrons
Altering the protein layer
Compromising the respiration





http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=bob+beck&emb=0&aq=f#

Watch the video linked.
At 4 minutes into the video Bob talks about the PCR test results for viral load counts.
He has a health professional from the audience look at the test results to verify they are for real because of the legal system and doctor patient confidentiality he cant show the results to non health professionals.


Once you start watching the video you will watch the whole thing eagerly.



Evea, Bob Beck talks about how he had to hire a private investigator to find someone who was present at the presentation of Dr Kaali' discovery of the blood zapper because of the suppression of information.
Bob talks about how they tried to fear monger him into silence.
Keep in mind Jim Humble lives in Mexico.


15min 40sec into the video Bob talks about people beating cancer, do watch the video and do ask any questions.

[thelucifer]

A high oxygen condition equals a high oxidation condition, a high oxidation condition stops/kills anaerobic microbes/processes, cancer (cancer is via a virus).
MMS makes a high oxidation condition.
Chlorine dioxide has an oxidation strength of 9.5 volts, healthy microbes/tissues can withstand 1.35 oxidation volts so MMS (at the correct mix) cant harm healthy microbes/tissues.
Anaerobic microbes/processes are week, they cant withstand high oxidation.

[cleft_asunder]

It's not sodium chlorite. Have you researched MMS properly in first place?

Jim Humble explains clearly that Sodium Chlorite is mixed 1/5 with citrus acid forming Chlorine Dioxide.

The difference between Chlorine and Chlorine dioxide is like breathing air with carbon monoxide instead of carbon dioxide - death.

Actually that was an error on my part, I didn't understand it properly myself.

[cleft_asunder]

Stabilized Oxygen (3% MMS) = oxidizer
MMS (28%) = oxidizer

Oxidation kills all pathogens by taking electrons from them.

What? I was reading Humble's book (the first part) and I thought the conclusion reached was that although it travels on red cells and is released where oxygen is released, that it isn't oxidation that does the work as the original German scientist who created stabalized oxygen thought. The oxygen is just a disguise if I'm not mistaken, and then the chlorine dioxide does the work, exploding and killing any pathogens that are a lower PH than that body... Yeah I know, I'm probably confused.

[thelucifer]

What? I was reading Humble's book (the first part) and I thought the conclusion reached was that although it travels on red cells and is released where oxygen is released, that it isn't oxidation that does the work as the original German scientist who created stabalized oxygen thought. The oxygen is just a disguise if I'm not mistaken, and then the chlorine dioxide does the work, exploding and killing any pathogens that are a lower PH than that body... Yeah I know, I'm probably confused.


Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2, the O2 is dioxide) does the exploding thing as well.
When taking an electron from the pathogen it looks like the pathogen is exploding, taking its shell releasing its insides, its not actually exploding.
Low PH, all anaerobic microbes have a low PH, low PH goes with low oxidation resistance, double whammy.

People with cancer and other diseases are acidic, low PH, just the way the bad guys like it.
The more acidic a person gets the less oxygen/oxidation the body retains, the acidity kicks the oxygen/oxidation out of the body.

[coco]

Thank you for coming back thelucifer. I was hoping you would for Evea's sake.

[21_12_2012]

I think it's day 8 for me today, I took 10 drops this morning, and, for the first time
all week, i've felt nauseous, but not actually vomited.
I've felt on the verge of vomiting for about 4 hours today.

I have a particularly strong stomach and digestive system, and very rarely
vomit ever. So, i think i will stay on 10 drops for a few days, and not increase,
it seems to be about right for me at the moment this dose.

I did, however, put 4 drops of citric to each drop of MMS today, instead of 5
drops, maybe that's what caused the sickness...don't know.

I wonder what happens if you only put a couple of drops of citric to 1 drop of MMS ?
I guess it'll start killing off good bacteria as well as bad maybe (guessing)

Edit:- The diarrhoea is sick...it really stinks and there's loads of it...i've noticed little black things
in it too, LOTS of them...which i presume could be parasites ? ewww
I could be wrong. I didn't know people had so many of them inside their bodies.
Maybe it's not parasites..i didn't want to examine it too much coz it stunk so bad haha.

Good signs though, that it's working :)

[margaretr]

I have been using it for four days and overdid the dose increase yesterday, so had stomach pain and watery diarrheoa -MY OWN FAULT!
I stopped the nasty reaction with half a teaspoon of bicarb in water (handy to know)
It hasn't put me off using it - I will resume more cautiously tomorrow

[lostinstrangeworld]

Is there someone who would be able to send me a copy of the ebook part 2?

If you can, please send me a pm and I'll give you my email address.

[manit]

Is there someone who would be able to send me a copy of the ebook part 2?

If you can, please send me a pm and I'll give you my email address.

Hi there lostinstrangeworld you can get both parts from here sweet http://www.mmssupplier.com/PDFs/MMS_Part_2%5B1%5DChlorine%20Dioxine.pdf have fun...........:D

[cleft_asunder]

I think it's day 8 for me today, I took 10 drops this morning, and, for the first time
all week, i've felt nauseous, but not actually vomited.
I've felt on the verge of vomiting for about 4 hours today.

I have a particularly strong stomach and digestive system, and very rarely
vomit ever. So, i think i will stay on 10 drops for a few days, and not increase,
it seems to be about right for me at the moment this dose.

I did, however, put 4 drops of citric to each drop of MMS today, instead of 5
drops, maybe that's what caused the sickness...don't know.

I wonder what happens if you only put a couple of drops of citric to 1 drop of MMS ?
I guess it'll start killing off good bacteria as well as bad maybe (guessing)

Edit:- The diarrhoea is sick...it really stinks and there's loads of it...i've noticed little black things
in it too, LOTS of them...which i presume could be parasites ? ewww
I could be wrong. I didn't know people had so many of them inside their bodies.
Maybe it's not parasites..i didn't want to examine it too much coz it stunk so bad haha.

Good signs though, that it's working :)

It's probably parasites and such, yes.

[cleft_asunder]

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2, the O2 is dioxide) does the exploding thing as well.
When taking an electron from the pathogen it looks like the pathogen is exploding, taking its shell releasing its insides, its not actually exploding.
Low PH, all anaerobic microbes have a low PH, low PH goes with low oxidation resistance, double whammy.

People with cancer and other diseases are acidic, low PH, just the way the bad guys like it.
The more acidic a person gets the less oxygen/oxidation the body retains, the acidity kicks the oxygen/oxidation out of the body.

Gottcha, thanks.

[thelucifer]

The best protocol is the double dose protocol, taking a dose and then taking another an hour after that.
Two double doses per day and even up to three double doses (90 drops total) per day after reaching and maintaining two double doses (15 drops per dose) for a week

The first dose cleans the way for the second one, so the second one gets more chlorine dioxide into the blood/body.

The double dose protocol requires a little more dedication time wise but is more effective.

[21_12_2012]

The best protocol is the double dose protocol, taking a dose and then taking another an hour after that.
Two double doses per day and even up to three double doses (90 drops total) per day after reaching and maintaining two double doses (15 drops per dose) for a week

The first dose cleans the way for the second one, so the second one gets more chlorine dioxide into the blood/body.

The double dose protocol requires a little more dedication time wise but is more effective.

wow..now that sounds hard, but it makes sense.

Did you find this out from somewhere ? Is this how they treat the really serious
stuff like cancer ?

Well...i have checked and analyzed my diarrhoea today to see exactly what
these little black bits are (believe me it wasn't nice to do !)

And they're not parasites from what i can see, they're just 'bits' different shapes.
They're small, couple of millimetres, largest being about 3 or 4 mm, and i think
they could be layers of the colon wall gently breaking down. I could be wrong,
but i couldn't see one parasite-looking thing, but they are very dark in colour,
kind of blackish and dark brownish.

The diarrhoea will not go away, it's like 1 hours worth in the morning
(split into around 5 trips to the toilet) and maybe one 10 minute diarrhoea session at
night time. Morning is definately the main one. I'm hoping it doesn't last much longer.

It's been about 5 days now since i had a 'normal' shit.
Otherwise, i feel very good indeed.

[lostinstrangeworld]

To be honest, I think the dose you are taking is way too much!

Unless someone is trying to treat a serious disease, one drop a day should be plenty sufficient.....it actually says young people only need to take 2 or 3 drops a week but older people may need to take one a day.

Be careful!!


Colon wall? :eek:

[21_12_2012]

To be honest, I think the dose you are taking is way too much!

Unless someone is trying to treat a serious disease, one drop a day should be plenty sufficient.....it actually says young people only need to take 2 or 3 drops a week but older people may need to take one a day.

Be careful!!


Colon wall? :eek:

I don't think i'm taking too much, but, i think maybe i jumped up to the 10 drops too quickly.

It says on the instructions that 12 - 20 drops 2 or 3 times a day is a high dose.

One of the main reasons i am taking this stuff, is to get rid of mercury and
heavy metals, i doubt that will happen at small doses, because mercury in particular
is a very stubborn thing to remove indeed. It binds tightly in the body and brain.

Diarrhoea is normal on MMS, and a sign that the detox is working, but i'm not
sure how many days it should last for.

I say 'colon wall' , what i mean is, the crap that's caked onto the colon wall could
be what the little bits are. Because inside the colon wall, caked in there, are
probably all kinds of nasties.

I could be wrong and the bits could just be broken down food, don't know.

But today i have dropped to 9 drops instead of 10.

I will increase back to 10 probably in a day or 2.

[margaretr]

I have resumed MMS after a days break because I too had tried to increase the dose too fast and had stomach cramps and diarrheoa as a result.
I am glad that the 'dark dots' in the watery diarheoa has been mentioned because I had those too, and wondered about parasites.

I never for one minute thought that I was passing the lining of my intestines because I have done that and that is purple and green mucus.

In 1980, whilst travelling as a car passenger from Italy to UK, I got C-difficile.
This caused a few hours of projectile vomiting and diarrheoa that I have never had that bad before or since, and I can understand why frail people die of it.
My whole digestive tract emptied itself and after that even small sips of water caused stomach pains, so for several days after I neither ate or drank.
What began to appear from my anus was small blobs of coloured slime, which I can reason was the lining of my intestine.
I was admitted to hospital in central France and was medically evauated to UK by plane 2 days after that.
I relate this gory tale to reassure you that the dark small blobs are not part of your anatomy :)

[21_12_2012]

I have resumed MMS after a days break because I too had tried to increase the dose too fast and had stomach cramps and diarrheoa as a result.
I am glad that the 'dark dots' in the watery diarheoa has been mentioned because I had those too, and wondered about parasites.

I never for one minute thought that I was passing the lining of my intestines because I have done that and that is purple and green mucus.

In 1980, whilst travelling as a car passenger from Italy to UK, I got C-difficile.
This caused a few hours of projectile vomiting and diarrheoa that I have never had that bad before or since, and I can understand why frail people die of it.
My whole digestive tract emptied itself and after that even small sips of water caused stomach pains, so for several days after I neither ate or drank.
What began to appear from my anus was small blobs of coloured slime, which I can reason was the lining of my intestine.
I was admitted to hospital in central France and was medically evauated to UK by plane 2 days after that.
I relate this gory tale to reassure you that the dark small blobs are not part of your anatomy :)


Cheers for that info.

I've read things about colonics/colon cleansing, and accounts of all kinds of stuff
coming out.

I was led to believe that the colon wall is caked in 'hard crap'
to put it bluntly. And underneath and inside this 'cake' are all kinds of stuff.

I've even read once of someone doing a colon cleanse, and a piece of kids
colouring crayon came out, and it turned out that the person had swallowed it
as a child, and it must've stuck in there for like 30 - 40 years and got 'caked
over' as time went by.

I don't know how true this is, but i have read in a few places about this cake stuff,
and once it is gone, the body and it's organs begin to function much more
efficiently.

Like David Icke points out in a couple of his books, the body is a hologram, and
the different parts of the colon link to different parts of the body. When the
colon is cleansed, section by section, the corresponding organ/bodypart to that section,
begins to function properly.

I believe David had some colonics done at one point, in Hawaii i think, proper
one, month long or something.

Maybe MMS does a similar thing as colonics, but on a smaller scale.
I haven't seen that mentioned about it though as yet.

[thelucifer]

wow..now that sounds hard, but it makes sense.

Did you find this out from somewhere ? Is this how they treat the really serious
stuff like cancer ?

Jim talks about this protocol in his books and videos.
A gal that works with him came up with this protocol, she talks about it in one of the videos.

Well...i have checked and analyzed my diarrhoea today to see exactly what
these little black bits are (believe me it wasn't nice to do !)

And they're not parasites from what i can see, they're just 'bits' different shapes.
They're small, couple of millimetres, largest being about 3 or 4 mm, and i think
they could be layers of the colon wall gently breaking down. I could be wrong,
but i couldn't see one parasite-looking thing, but they are very dark in colour,
kind of blackish and dark brownish.

The diarrhoea will not go away, it's like 1 hours worth in the morning
(split into around 5 trips to the toilet) and maybe one 10 minute diarrhoea session at
night time. Morning is definately the main one. I'm hoping it doesn't last much longer.

It's been about 5 days now since i had a 'normal' shit.
Otherwise, i feel very good indeed.


Back down to 6 or 7 drops and hold that for a while, if the diarrhea stops slowly increase then, if it doesn't stop back down a little more, I dont see any good reason to put oneself through that when not in dire condition, in fact people stop MMS altogether because of that wonderful experience. :eek: ;)
Diarrhea can be detox but it can also be overload (to fast and furious).
Jim also says (and I agree) that doing more little doses per day is easier on a person than doing a couple big ones.
My thinking is that not only is it easier on a person but as with the double dose protocol, more effective (a double bonus). :)

[manit]

Hey Guys Does Sodium Chlorite powder and citric acid powder have to be mixed with Distilled water coz i am finding it very hard to get in the uk ?:) tried distilling my own have got about a few oz and its been on all day since this morning a pan with pan top turned upside down and a small plastic bowel in side to catch the condensed water that drips from the lid........

[margaretr]

Hey Guys Does Sodium Chlorite powder and citric acid powder have to be mixed with Distilled water coz i am finding it very hard to get in the uk ?:) tried distilling my own have got about a few oz and its been on all day since this morning a pan with pan top turned upside down and a small plastic bowel in side to catch the condensed water that drips from the lid........

I use filtered tap water - I have watched the videos and don't recall distilled water being mentioned:confused:

[lupa]

Hey Guys Does Sodium Chlorite powder and citric acid powder have to be mixed with Distilled water coz i am finding it very hard to get in the uk ?:) tried distilling my own have got about a few oz and its been on all day since this morning a pan with pan top turned upside down and a small plastic bowel in side to catch the condensed water that drips from the lid........


you can use de-ionised water manit good old wilkos sell it for 52 pence a bottle

[margaretr]

you can use de-ionised water manit good old wilkos sell it for 52 pence a bottle
I will have to re read the info again:o

[lostinstrangeworld]

Can you use orange juice or mineral water?

Tap water?

[lupa]

Can you use orange juice or mineral water?

Tap water?


orange juice i would stay clear from if possible as it contains vitamin c and that will neutralise the mms instantly and tap water is to be used as a last resort due to tap water not being that clean. the mms will be going to work on the tap water first so by the time you drink it the water will be great but the mms will have lost some of its magic.

on drop amounts, the chap i bought my mms from said that you only really need to go up to 10 drops twice a day unless you have real problems going on inside your body. i went up to the 15 but looking back maybe i didn't need to as i never had any problems no runs etc so maybe that showed that i'm pretty healthy i guess which is a laugh because i felt like crap before i came on here lol. but i know if you do have things going on inside your body, only half a drop dose can give some the trots or nausea.

[manit]

you can use de-ionised water manit good old wilkos sell it for 52 pence a bottle
ya mean the stuff ya put in a car bty great stuff distilled water cost a fortune 5ltr ebay £18 what a joke cheers lupa m8 nice one think ill go ta asda they should have some as well.........:):D got some real bad shit goin on in my body think i might have ta work up to or till i end up with the shits and stuff 15 a day

[21_12_2012]

Jim talks about this protocol in his books and videos.
A gal that works with him came up with this protocol, she talks about it in one of the videos.

Back down to 6 or 7 drops and hold that for a while, if the diarrhea stops slowly increase then, if it doesn't stop back down a little more, I dont see any good reason to put oneself through that when not in dire condition, in fact people stop MMS altogether because of that wonderful experience. :eek: ;)
Diarrhea can be detox but it can also be overload (to fast and furious).
Jim also says (and I agree) that doing more little doses per day is easier on a person than doing a couple big ones.
My thinking is that not only is it easier on a person but as with the double dose protocol, more effective (a double bonus). :)

Thanks for that info.
The diarrhoea has actually stopped and now feels like constipation for some
reason, like you want to go but it wont come out.

I think that might be the end of the runs now, i'll find out tomorrow i suppose.

I think i will stick on 10 drops twice a day for next week, and then think
about doing some double stuff after that.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I think I might used cooled boiled mineral water.

[margaretr]

When I had stomach cramps and watery diarrheoa 2 days ago, I was only on 3 drops twice a day:eek:
It looks like I have a lot of nasty stuff to get rid of.:(

[manit]

When I had stomach cramps and watery diarrheoa 2 days ago, I was only on 3 drops twice a day:eek:
It looks like I have a lot of nasty stuff to get rid of.:(

I don't think ya have girl do ya want ta swop with what ive got lol i need the 15 drops 3 times a day thats if i can stand it when i make the stuff up just got ta get me some DE-ionized water and off i go:)

[manit]

I think I might used cooled boiled mineral water.

is that for the mixing of the chlorite to make mms. i am going to go to asda and get DE-ionized water for the mixing of the chlorite and citric acid solutions:):)

[thirdwave]

I got some of this stuff as I thought it would be good to try out next time i get ill...

it came through but with no instructions on how to take it or anything ??

as it takes a bit of preparing with the citrus stuff..so on..

[lostinstrangeworld]

Instructions are in the ebooks.

A link where Part 1 of the ebook can be downloaded for free:

http://www.miraclemineral.org/


A link to the second part that can be accessed FREE:

http://www.mmssupplier.com/PDFs/MMS_Part_2%5B1%5DChlorine%20Dioxine.pdf

[margaretr]

I don't think ya have girl do ya want ta swop with what ive got lol i need the 15 drops 3 times a day thats if i can stand it when i make the stuff up just got ta get me some DE-ionized water and off i go:)

I have detoxed twice before in the past year using HumetR for a month each time, but that supposedly only rid me of heavy metals.
This MMS seems to be a deeper clear out, eliminating pathogens too - great.
I have unwittingly had a candida overgrowth for over 20 years - ever since I had C-difficile.

I am using filtered tap water. I am fortunate to live in an area where the only addition to mains supply is chlorine, and the water is sourced from reservoirs on moorland and underground streams.

Some folks get their tap water from the Thames:eek: - recycled sewage.

I will continue to use filtered tap water to mix MMS unless someone can say why I shouldn't

[manit]

I have detoxed twice before in the past year using HumetR for a month each time, but that supposedly only rid me of heavy metals.
This MMS seems to be a deeper clear out, eliminating pathogens too - great.
I have unwittingly had a candida overgrowth for over 20 years - ever since I had C-difficile.

I am using filtered tap water. I am fortunate to live in an area where the only addition to mains supply is chlorine, and the water is sourced from reservoirs on moorland and underground streams.

Some folks get their tap water from the Thames:eek: - recycled sewage.

I will continue to use filtered tap water to mix MMS unless someone can say why I shouldn't in jims book it does not say anything about distilled water says use Purified water. Distilled water and deionized water are also considered purified from here http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-purified-water.htm i suppose boiled water is sort of purified ........

[margaretr]

in jims book it does not say anything about distilled water says use Purified water. Distilled water and deionized water are also considered purified from here http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-purified-water.htm i suppose boiled water is sort of purified ........

Thank you for that link - it has given me some peace of mind that my filtered tap water is Ok - but I wouldn't have come to that conclusion if my water source was the Thames.

[manit]

Thank you for that link - it has given me some peace of mind that my filtered tap water is Ok - but I wouldn't have come to that conclusion if my water source was the Thames.

i suppose ya could boil up ya filtered water it carnt harm it any it would kill most of the crap in it anyway iv just spent all day in fact 12 hrs boiling up water to make distilled water and have just got a bout 400ml thats it so of any one out there now wants to make distilled water (please dont bother ist a wast of time) unless ya got a still in the shed...... use boiled of filtered or de -ionized water......:D also where the hell is jim going to get distilled water from in a sodin jungle yeah water and poss boil it up thats about it then ya have a decent purified water ....

[breezinreezin]

I don't understand the problem regarding the water. If you're putting water into a chorine dioxide solution then any bacteria will be obliterated. What rationale is there to use purified water?

[lostinstrangeworld]

I agree, it confuses me a bit too....think of all the water in the body....if just one drop of MMS can work so potently on a grown body then surely a drop of water to mix it with will make very little difference.

[manit]

I agree, it confuses me a bit too....think of all the water in the body....if just one drop of MMS can work so potently on a grown body then surely a drop of water to mix it with will make very little difference.

i think ya will find its to mix up the chlorite and citric acid to make 28% and a 10% solutions thats all as jim said use purified water ....:)i actually dont think it matters that much as like you say once mixed its killing everything

[remium]

Its about making up solutions .... and in any lab making up any chemical solution, the technician will always use distilled water, rather than go running for the tap. TBH I think that mentalities stuck when the good doctor was writing up the protocols. And as for getting distilled water into the jungle...how da hell did he get the sodium chlorite there :P.

[margaretr]

Its about making up solutions .... and in any lab making up any chemical solution, the technician will always use distilled water, rather than go running for the tap. TBH I think that mentalities stuck when the good doctor was writing up the protocols. And as for getting distilled water into the jungle...how da hell did he get the sodium chlorite there :P.

In the long interview he gave to the concious media network he explains that he always took water purification drops to such remote locations. They are an old fashioned remedy which he does not claim to have invented. He says he investigated why they worked so well curing his workmates of malaria, and then devised how to make them even more effective using citric acid.
Incidentally the shipment I have received this week is labelled
'Water Purification Drops'
I surmise that he is having problems with medical authorities and cannot call them 'supplements' any more.

[remium]

In the long interview he gave to the concious media network he explains that he always took water purification drops to such remote locations. They are an old fashioned remedy which he does not claim to have invented. He says he investigated why they worked so well curing his workmates of malaria, and then devised how to make them even more effective using citric acid.
Incidentally the shipment I have received this week is labelled
'Water Purification Drops' - I surmise that he is having problems with medical authorities and cannot call them 'supplements' any more.

Distillation, reverse osmosis, Carbon filtered even just boiled are all types of purified water ... all im saying is ... in a lab environment distilled/purified water is the norm for making solutions of any type ... tap water is sort of frowned upon ... hence the warning in the protocol of using tap water in an emergency only.

[breezinreezin]

Distillation, reverse osmosis, Carbon filtered even just boiled are all types of purified water ... all im saying is ... in a lab environment distilled/purified water is the norm for making solutions of any type ... tap water is sort of frowned upon ... hence the warning in the protocol of using tap water in an emergency only.

In a lab it's understandable. The impurities in the water would not be conducive of good science. I mean I can only imagine the mineral content of tap water being a factor in the chemistry. I used filtered water and the chemistry seemed fine. Certainly there was a chemical reaction and a gas was produced that I would hope is chorine dioxide. Any chemists here who want to clarify this or am I talking bollocks?chr

[remium]

Certainly there was a chemical reaction and a gas was produced that I would hope is chorine dioxide.
:confused:
Do I detect doubt creeping in...:eek:

Any chemists here who want to clarify this or am I talking bollocks?chr

Nar I dont think yer talking bollox ...for guys and gals sat at home im sure boiled or de-ionized or boiled de-ionized water will be fine. But hey don't quote me when you lose a leg :D

[cleft_asunder]

I received my bottles about 3 days ago, but I don't trust MMS. It's as I suspected in regards to the citric acid, and perhaps the chlorine itself. Citric acid, lemons, limes kill friendly bacteria in the intestines. Drinking lemon juice once a day may provide a feeling of well-being at first, but to those who have a compromised intestinal tract and perhaps even the normal person may be doing more harm than good.

The MMS is making me feel ill. And not a good detox-type ill either, just a persistant something-is-wrong type ill. And I'm confident it's not only bad bacteria it's killing, but good as well, and that killing off of good bacteria is making me feel like crap. Tomorrow I will have made homemade yogurt as per the SC diet protocol, fermenting it for 24-29 hours which results in the bacteria eating all of the lactose. If I feel drastically better with this treatment, it will prove my theory.

Here is a thread that confirms my theory, that it does kill friendly bacteria and should be used with a good probiotics source. For those with yeast and therefore minimal good bacteria count in the intestine, no more than 1 drop.

http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1411037

[lostinstrangeworld]

Hmm....maybe I'll wait until I have a cold or something until I use mine, when it arrives.


I don't know whether or not its just me being paranoid, but the thought popped into my head the other day that if there is anything wrong with this MMS, it could be used by Codex to justify what they are doing....Jim could actually be their pawn. :eek:

[thirdwave]

Instructions are in the ebooks.

A link where Part 1 of the ebook can be downloaded for free:

http://www.miraclemineral.org/


A link to the second part that can be accessed FREE:

http://www.mmssupplier.com/PDFs/MMS_Part_2%5B1%5DChlorine%20Dioxine.pdf

thanks!

[cleft_asunder]

Hmm....maybe I'll wait until I have a cold or something until I use mine, when it arrives.


I don't know whether or not its just me being paranoid, but the thought popped into my head the other day that if there is anything wrong with this MMS, it could be used by Codex to justify what they are doing....Jim could actually be their pawn. :eek:

Worth considering. At the least, why wasn't Humble killed for this?

[thelucifer]

I started at one drop 3 times a day and increased one drop a day to 9 drops 3 times a day and at 10 drops I went to 2 times a day and increased one drop a day up to 15 drops two times a day and held that for a week.

I had an issue (for a year or two) where I couldn’t clear my throat, my voice was rough and I could no longer sing bass, the MMS cleared this issue, its not up for debate because I have not taken anything else, the MMS took care of it, I keep no medicines in my house and never have.


Don’t wait until you become sick, clean yourself out now and then any bug that gets in will be easily dealt with.
Bob Beck says the average 160 or 180 pound person has about 2 pounds of parasites/pathogens in them.
To get rid of the adversaries (as Bob Beck calls them) is to free the body and mind of much stress.


People make a mad rush for the big doses/protocols when they not only don’t need too but shouldn’t because it can be rough.
When one is about to die, the squirts etc are a small price to pay in overcoming the adversaries.


Think small, think slow, no need to be a glutton for punishment.


Do the double dose (take a dose wait an hour and take a second dose) protocol, start at 1 drop and increase 1 drop a day to 3 drop doses (that’s 12 drops total per day), hold that for a week (or longer) and if no nausea/diarrhea increase 1 drop and hold that for a few days and then increase 1 drop and hold that for a few days etc up to the full protocols eventually.

Again, think small, think slow but don’t stop, you don’t need to do the 3 week crash course, take 3 months or longer.

[21_12_2012]

I received my bottles about 3 days ago, but I don't trust MMS. It's as I suspected in regards to the citric acid, and perhaps the chlorine itself. Citric acid, lemons, limes kill friendly bacteria in the intestines. Drinking lemon juice once a day may provide a feeling of well-being at first, but to those who have a compromised intestinal tract and perhaps even the normal person may be doing more harm than good.

I didn't think such a small amount of citric acid could be harmful to the friendly
bacteria.

Did you start on 1 drop MMS to 5 drops citric ?
Maybe you could decrease the ratio,at first, to 1 drop MMS to 1 drop citric.

I've also read on curezone, that you can just put 1 drop of MMS (and no citric)
with 1 litre of water, and sip this through the day.
The stomach acid alone will activate it apparently.

The MMS is making me feel ill. And not a good detox-type ill either, just a persistant something-is-wrong type ill.

I have had nausea with it the first couple of days, but not actually vomited, and
that made me feel a bit like "something wasn't right", but after that, and when
the 'shits' started, i knew it was working.

This could maybe be due to parasites dying/starting to die.
As with candida, they crave certain foods/sugars, and affect the way we feel
and think, maybe other parasites/candida starting to die is making you feel something is
wrong ?

Or, maybe, you are taking other stuff with this which is causing a reaction.
It's adviseable to not take anything else with MMS, as adverse reactions can
occur.

DMSA is one of them, probably medications in general. I am taking nothing at
all, apart from distilled water/eating basic foods/pure apple juice now and again,
until i know the shits have gone away for good.(which, today, day 12, it looks like they might have).

I thought the shits had gone the other day, i felt kind of constipated, but
it was a false alarm, they came back later with avengance !

And I'm confident it's not only bad bacteria it's killing, but good as well, and that killing off of good bacteria is making me feel like crap.

Apparently, if mixed at the correct ratio, MMS will only kill off harmful pathogens
because, as Humble says, "they are weaker than friendly bacteria, and will die off
at a lower (voltage i think he says)"

I think he says the MMS creates a voltage, depending on
how strong it is mixed with the citric, like a current. The higher the mix, the higher
the current.

I would need to watch the video again or read some more again to verify this,
but, i think, a 1:1 mix produces a lower voltage (i think)

I tried for the first time last night, a 'double dose' of a 1:1 ratio mix
I had 10 drops MMS to 10 drops citric acid and the same again 1 hour later.

And this morning i had no 'bad shits', so i am presuming that the 1:1 ratio
is creating a LOWER voltage (i could be wrong) because i have had no bad shits
this morning at all (yet...ive only been awake for an hour so far, but this is the
first morning i haven't had them in about 10 days)

I will try double dosing again today, but with a 1:5 mix.

Tomorrow I will have made homemade yogurt as per the SC diet protocol,
fermenting it for 24-29 hours which results in the bacteria eating all of the lactose.
If I feel drastically better with this treatment,
it will prove my theory.

Maybe you should keep off yogurt-y/bacteria-y stuff while starting on the MMS
and stick to as basic a diet as possible until the initial 'bad stuff' has started
subsiding, and just drink plenty of water.

Apparently the more water you
drink with this, the more the effect of the MMS is amplified (due to the body being
largely made of water)

Here is a thread that confirms my theory, that it does kill friendly bacteria and should be used with a good probiotics source. For those with yeast and therefore minimal good bacteria count in the intestine, no more than 1 drop.

You would probably be best doing the 'go slow and steady' methods, as described
in curezone.

A guy called Silverfish on the there knows a lot about MMS, and he
has some good advice on how to start slowly and progressively, which is the key
rather than upping the dose too fast.

I can confidently say that this stuff is working very well forme, in fact it's
the best thing ive ever done. And what has been coming out of me has been
unreal. I initially thought they were parasites, then i looked at them and
they didnt look much like parasites, but, after more examination over the
last few days, and checking online, i think what has been coming out of me
is 'flukes', probably liver flukes and intestinal flukes.
MMS 'explodes' pathogens, so i couldnt correctly identify what they were,
but i am now sure they are parasites/flukes, which have been exploded.

Hundreds and hundreds of bits of them ! Which now, on day 11(or 12) have stopped
coming out (for the time being)
As well as curing my athletes foot, synus trouble, "tired in the morning" trouble,
foggy brain trouble, i feel a lot stronger/confident and energetic.

I think the key is to keep going with this, and drink a lot, and watch the appetite.

I hope it gets better for you cleft, i know how hard you have tried and are
trying with your health. (like me)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1411037[/QUOTE]

[21_12_2012]

Hmm....maybe I'll wait until I have a cold or something until I use mine, when it arrives.


I don't know whether or not its just me being paranoid, but the thought popped into my head the other day that if there is anything wrong with this MMS, it could be used by Codex to justify what they are doing....Jim could actually be their pawn. :eek:

It's a possibility, but from what i've seen of Jim Humble after watching the
video all the way through, and from what i have felt and experienced so far doing this detox,
and read on curezone, and my own 'intuition', MMS is a genuine all round detoxer and
healer, and Jim is a genuine, positive, well-meaning, spiritual guy, who only wants
to help people and cure people with this as much as he can before, as he puts it,
"it gets in the radar" and people start to try and put a stop to it.

The FDA (or whoever), could very well attempt to ban this as a product, but it
can still be made, quite simply, it's just a matter of getting hold of the sodium
chlorite and the stuff needed to create MMS, after all, it is used for a lot
of things, purifying, cleaning etc.

It would also further reinforce the fact that this stuff does work if it was
'banned' as a product.

Apparently, 'they' are already trying to stop this stuff being classed as a health
product and distributors are having to label it as 'water purification', which to
me means that 'they' already know it is growing in popularity so much, but
there is not much 'they' can do about it because it is so easy to make, so
they'll make people class it as 'water purification' or whatever, or a 'harmful chemical' etc
to put possible 'new buyers' off buying it maybe.

[21_12_2012]

Worth considering. At the least, why wasn't Humble killed for this?

Maybe, in my opinion, because it is so easily made, and Humble had
already cured so many thousands of people (of malaria firstly) and other serious
diseases, it would draw too much attention to it.

That's my opinion. And also, he comes across as a very spiritual positive guy,
i would say he has a lot of 'light' on his side.

Same as David Icke !

[manit]

I started at one drop 3 times a day and increased one drop a day to 9 drops 3 times a day and at 10 drops I went to 2 times a day and increased one drop a day up to 15 drops two times a day and held that for a week.

I had an issue (for a year or two) where I couldn’t clear my throat, my voice was rough and I could no longer sing bass, the MMS cleared this issue, its not up for debate because I have not taken anything else, the MMS took care of it, I keep no medicines in my house and never have.


Don’t wait until you become sick, clean yourself out now and then any bug that gets in will be easily dealt with.
Bob Beck says the average 160 or 180 pound person has about 2 pounds of parasites/pathogens in them.
To get rid of the adversaries (as Bob Beck calls them) is to free the body and mind of much stress.


People make a mad rush for the big doses/protocols when they not only don’t need too but shouldn’t because it can be rough.
When one is about to die, the squirts etc are a small price to pay in overcoming the adversaries.


Think small, think slow, no need to be a glutton for punishment.


Do the double dose (take a dose wait an hour and take a second dose) protocol, start at 1 drop and increase 1 drop a day to 3 drop doses (that’s 12 drops total per day), hold that for a week (or longer) and if no nausea/diarrhea increase 1 drop and hold that for a few days and then increase 1 drop and hold that for a few days etc up to the full protocols eventually.

Again, think small, think slow but don’t stop, you don’t need to do the 3 week crash course, take 3 months or longer.

Unfortunately for some reason some people think they know better than the instructions start with one drop and build up to 10 or fifteen drops depending on your body. A mate of mine could only handle 5 drops twice a day the sixth drop was sick and had the runs for 3 days mind you he has hiv and has had it for over 4 years been on the medication ever since he stopped takin the medication 6 months before he tarted using mms said viral load is getting to undetectable levels cd4 is a healthy 500 so he is doin well so far:):D

[specialk85]

I have been on it for a week now and I am on 8/40 drops twice a day with no really bad side effects except a bit of depression and very vivid dreams. I am planning on getting it up to 15 drops twice a day in the next couple of weeks. Could someone please tell me how long I should stay on 30 drops a day for before cutting it back down and eventually coming off it?

p.s. I am planning on doing the full detox protocol.

Thanks

[margaretr]

I have resumed MMS at a very low dose.
I was worried about the spell of extreme itching I was having every evening.
Thanks to the link to this forum
http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=871
I know why and will endure it.

[manit]

I have resumed MMS at a very low dose.
I was worried about the spell of extreme itching I was having every evening.
Thanks to the link to this forum
http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=871
I know why and will endure it.

So far on my first day of 10 drops 3 times a day nothing happening yet but i must admit i am ill So it will prob take a while to kick in and kill the virus.. mind you ive eaten like a pig to day eating all the time Hmmmmmmm also a strange feeling in my stomach and heart area like a sort of something moving in there no headaches or nausea or the runs feel also had a lot of heartburn but gone now and a bit of itching thats ok now ok........:):D

[cleft_asunder]

I will do further testing and post back the results.

[thelucifer]

I have been on it for a week now and I am on 8/40 drops twice a day with no really bad side effects except a bit of depression and very vivid dreams. I am planning on getting it up to 15 drops twice a day in the next couple of weeks. Could someone please tell me how long I should stay on 30 drops a day for before cutting it back down and eventually coming off it?

p.s. I am planning on doing the full detox protocol.

Thanks


One week, then go on maintenance protocol which varies, do something like 5 - 7 drops three times a week.

[21_12_2012]

I did a 10 minute activation night, 10 drops at 1:1 ratio.
The diarrhoea has come back, and it seems as strong as the first time I
starting having it.

Maybe 10 minutes is the best amount of time to activate.

I read about the 10 minute thing on the curezone website.

[manit]

So far on my first day of 10 drops 3 times a day nothing happening yet but i must admit i am ill So it will prob take a while to kick in and kill the virus.. mind you ive eaten like a pig to day eating all the time Hmmmmmmm also a strange feeling in my stomach and heart area like a sort of something moving in there no headaches or nausea or the runs feel also had a lot of heartburn but gone now and a bit of itching thats ok now ok........:):D

on the (15 drops 3 times a day first day)this morning stomach ache being sick a sore throat itching pain in the kidney liver spleen areas lower back pain cramps and the runs knocking my drops back to twice a day at 8 drops:)what juices are you using?

[21_12_2012]

I was using pure apple juice the first couple of days, then switched to distilled
water, which im still using. About half a big cup full, then about half an hour
later a couple of full cups of distilled water...and maybe a couple of juices later on after that.

The 'black bits' seem to have decreased in number now anyway, whatever
they were, but still diarrhoea first thing in the morning, no more all day as yet.

But today, i have a slight nauseous feeling.

I did the 1:1 ratio and 10 minute activation
again this morning with 10 drops. I think that's enough for me at the moment,
twice a day.

[arrowwind]

You can read MMS testimonials at www.HealthSalon.org

find them in the toolbar at the top of the page

[xpleet]

The Fundamentals for using MMS are These:

Fundamental One:
Repeated small doses are more effective than large morning and evening doses. It has been demonstrated more than 1000 times that small doses administered often, up to once each hour, are more effective than large doses administered once or twice a day.

We now know that the chlorine dioxide chemical generated by MMS does not remain in the body more than one or two hours at most. The size of the dose does not seem to make a great deal of difference to the amount of time that MMS remains active in the body. That basically is because it doesn't matter if it is a large amount or small amount it still deteriorates into mostly just table salt in an hour or two.

So in reading the various methods of using MMS elsewhere on this web site, keep in mind - it is going to be much more effective to take MMS either each hour, or each two hours, and with smaller doses that will be equal to - or maybe larger than - one large dose.

If you are in the habit of taking larger MMS doses only in the morning and evening as was suggested in the past, MMS will still cleanse the body of microbes and pathogens. However, new research clearly reveals that a smaller-but-continuous circulation of ClO2 prevents regrouping and reproduction of pathogens, especially in situations where you are fighting a specific health issue - whether a cold or herpes or hepatitis.

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm

I think I'll quickly forget about the morning-evening dosis...According to Jim it sounds like people don't have to blast themselves with like 16 drops at once.

[noewhan]

According to some youtube comment about MMS, it doesn't work in every case. Or does half the job. Probably still worth it.... And if the problem was really bad, then I'd use MMS and hemp oil.

[manit]

on the (15 drops 3 times a day first day)this morning stomach ache being sick a sore throat itching pain in the kidney liver spleen areas lower back pain cramps and the runs knocking my drops back to twice a day at 8 drops:)what juices are you using?

so far not been sick to day yet going to have my breakfast then the mms had to knock it rite down to 4 drops twice a day the had the runs for two days arse red raw and a lot of blood in there not as bad to day if the blood keeps on coming while i have the runs i will stop mms completely for a month or so then start it again but this time keep it at 4 drops max twice a day :) i think its better doing small doses of mms coz i believe that it dont stay in the body that long i think half an hour i read that some ware so why take a large dose day and nite make ya self ill.. i went up to 15 drops 3 times a day man i was ill it was coming out at both ends at the same time so i went to 8 drops twice a day i was still the same now down to 4 drops it seams ok so far plus not as bad to drink than 10 or 15 drops

[21_12_2012]

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm
I think I'll quickly forget about the morning-evening dosis...According to Jim it sounds like people don't have to blast themselves with like 16 drops at once.

I will have a go at the hourly thing, it sounds interesting.
Small amount but regularly, maybe 1-2 drops per hour, at a ratio of 1:1,
activated for 10 mins.

[dude111]

VERY GOOD!!

Yes we need to figure out if this indeed true!!

[manit]

I will have a go at the hourly thing, it sounds interesting.
Small amount but regularly, maybe 1-2 drops per hour, at a ratio of 1:1,
activated for 10 mins.

21 m8 does the longer activation make any difference just that i make mine up at night and take in the morning so its been activated for at least 8 hours also the ratio 1:1 ie 2 drops of mms to 2 drops of activator is that rite what is the purpose of that stronger is the Citric acid Solution still the same at 10% and the mms at 28%.....:) it shouldn't taste as bad id rather take smaller doses more often any day of the week than a 15 drop one and puke and shit ya self to death any day so i am now on 4 drops 3 times a day

[xpleet]

According to some youtube comment about MMS, it doesn't work in every case. Or does half the job. Probably still worth it.... And if the problem was really bad, then I'd use MMS and hemp oil.

I would rather wonder if people read even half the instructions and then there are of course the agents spreading venom on YT. I don't think that youtube comments can be given much credit.


MMS is a strong oxydation agent,O is a most direct and original solution to viruses and bacteria, the question is how could it not work?

[21_12_2012]

21 m8 does the longer activation make any difference just that i make mine up at night and take in the morning so its been activated for at least 8 hours also the ratio 1:1 ie 2 drops of mms to 2 drops of activator is that rite what is the purpose of that stronger is the Citric acid Solution still the same at 10% and the mms at 28%.....:) it shouldn't taste as bad id rather take smaller doses more often any day of the week than a 15 drop one and puke and shit ya self to death any day so i am now on 4 drops 3 times a day

I have read on the curezone website, that activating for 10 mins (instead of
3 minutes) enables you to use 40% less of the MMS.

I think this means it is nearly twice as effective.

I have no idea if you can leave it for 8 hours, or longer than 10 minutes even,
all i've read is the 10 minute thing.

Also, the 1:1 ratio i read on curezone too, from what ive experienced, 1:1
makes it stronger too (although i could be wrong)

Having never done chemistry at school in my life, i have no idea how different
ratios and different activation times actually affect the strength (28% and 10%)
of the actual liquids, whether it increases the potency or not, but i suspect
there would be a maximum 'activation time' and after that time the potency would
decrease again.

I could be wrong, im guessing. I am experimenting with stuff at the moment.

[coco]

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm

I think I'll quickly forget about the morning-evening dosis...According to Jim it sounds like people don't have to blast themselves with like 16 drops at once.

Yep, I'm with you on that. The morning and evening blasts are taking a toll on my tummy even after all this time - I've doing MMS for close to if not 3 months now. It's just getting harder to force it down - perhaps 10-12 drops three times a day would be more my style, I feel confident I could tolerate that very well. I'll just have to bring the bottles to work with me so I can prepare the mid day dose. Not a big deal, really.

[xpleet]

Yep, I'm with you on that. The morning and evening blasts are taking a toll on my tummy even after all this time - I've doing MMS for close to if not 3 months now. It's just getting harder to force it down - perhaps 10-12 drops three times a day would be more my style, I feel confident I could tolerate that very well. I'll just have to bring the bottles to work with me so I can prepare the mid day dose. Not a big deal, really.

Well you needn't even have to take 10-12!

On the jim humble link on top of this page, he suggests you can take it once every 2 hours about 8-10 daily doses. He says if you do that, you don't need to take more than 5 drops per dosis and that the morning-evening protocol is old information, I suppose it was aimed for people who are just too busy with work and everything.
Remember, MMS is only active 1-2 hours, then is completly transformed into table salt.
I have to pinch my nose to get the 5 drop dosages down my throat and I think there's an uncomfortable taste of salt in my throat for a couple of hours afterwards.

I wish you and your tummy well.

[manit]

Yep, I'm with you on that. The morning and evening blasts are taking a toll on my tummy even after all this time - I've doing MMS for close to if not 3 months now. It's just getting harder to force it down - perhaps 10-12 drops three times a day would be more my style, I feel confident I could tolerate that very well. I'll just have to bring the bottles to work with me so I can prepare the mid day dose. Not a big deal, really.

i was like you it just got harder to take now i just do 4 drops every 4 hours that suits me fine not as bad taste but still a real crap taste but a bit more manageable i might even drop it down further yet:)

[coco]

Thanks Xpleet and Manit. :) I will try that advice. While at the office I know I would have the opportunity to prepare and drink it throughout the day but I'm unsure if the ebb and flow of the workday activity would permit a strict, every two hour schedule.

Nonetheless, small doses throughout the day would be a much more tolerable system of intake and MMS benefits could still be had - and I have enjoyed benefits by the way.

Thank so much!

[manit]

Thanks Xpleet and Manit. :) I will try that advice. While at the office I know I would have the opportunity to prepare and drink it throughout the day but I'm unsure if the ebb and flow of the workday activity would permit a strict, every two hour schedule.

Nonetheless, small doses throughout the day would be a much more tolerable system of intake and MMS benefits could still be had - and I have enjoyed benefits by the way.

Thank so much!
i look at it this way any kind of dose thats in ya body is better than nothing there is also a 1:1 ratio so say 4 drops mms 4 drops of activator but must leave for ten mins this is what i will be trying at ten tonite before i go to bed 4 drops is more than enough for me :) it might kill the virus thats deep within who knows if i take the meds it will kill me sooner or later that i know for sure pity i carnt heal myself yet i heal loads of other people strange one hhhmmm:)

[jolinemaria]

Thanks for the new instructions on dosage intake.
I have not been able to stay on 2 x 15 drops for more than 2 days.
No matter how often I tried to get to that point nor how slowly I built up.

I will now go on a 4 drop dose few times a day.
Very curious as to see how that works out!

[manit]

Thanks for the new instructions on dosage intake.
I have not been able to stay on 2 x 15 drops for more than 2 days.
No matter how often I tried to get to that point nor how slowly I built up.

I will now go on a 4 drop dose few times a day.
Very curious as to see how that works out!
i was the same in fact a day then i was puking up had the runs bad all kind if stuff happened so i went rite down i am on now 3 drops at a 1:1 ratio left for ten mins or mor taken every 5 hours its much more manageable not being sick or the runs now just the taste its vile but not as bad not found anything to get rid of it yet also what ive done is made a solution of a 10 drop 1:1 ratio and just left it in a glass in the room and you will breath the vapors of the chlorine dioxide in seams to last for a few hours can be a little overpowering i might have to knock the ratio down a bit people that never smelt this stuff feel sick when there in the room for more than ten mins so just watch that:)

[manit]

i think i will go on to this method of jims at least i dont have to drink the stuff or maybe the enema the bath seam like a good choice now the smell makes me retch and headaches....it is possible to absorb MMS through the skin directly into underlying muscle. Whereas oral doses provide Cl02 gas primarily to the red blood cells, MMS that sinks through the skin provides Cl02 gas directly to the liquid plasma of the blood. More Cl02 is circulated and more rapid benefits can be expected. bathtub strategy, your full skin surface will be in contact with Cl02 gas for 20 to 30 minutes. this looks like a very good way to take it:):D think it time for a bath............:)

[ex sheep]

i think i will go on to this method of jims at least i dont have to drink the stuff or maybe the enema the bath seam like a good choice now the smell makes me retch and headaches....it is possible to absorb MMS through the skin directly into underlying muscle. Whereas oral doses provide Cl02 gas primarily to the red blood cells, MMS that sinks through the skin provides Cl02 gas directly to the liquid plasma of the blood. More Cl02 is circulated and more rapid benefits can be expected. bathtub strategy, your full skin surface will be in contact with Cl02 gas for 20 to 30 minutes. this looks like a very good way to take it:):D think it time for a bath............:)

Why don't you take 1/1 drop every 2hrs or how often you can manage it, 1 drop is easy to take and doesn't make you wretch if you dilute it, that's what I am trying now.
Best wishes.

[manit]

Why don't you take 1/1 drop every 2hrs or how often you can manage it, 1 drop is easy to take and doesn't make you wretch if you dilute it, that's what I am trying now.
Best wishes.

had my bath with the solution jim said 30 drops and 140 activator i could only manage ten mins then had stomach ache stayed for another 5 mins that was it had to get out it felt like id been drained went asleep for an hour stomach still giving me jip and have the runs now it seams this way is to me more potent will try a lesser dose next time i find the stuff very hard to stomach now the smell i think i will give your idea a try a 1 :1 ratio 1 drop is more than enough for me the bath is a good one :) just tried a 1 drop felt sick straight a way think the bath is a good idea

[coco]

How are you fairing, ex-sheep?

[ex sheep]

How are you fairing, ex-sheep?
Hi coco, doing great with this stuff, but I took a break of about a week and a half, and just started up again yesterday.
I think the big secret here is taking it real slow at first, (unless there's something seriously wrong of course) and sticking to that particular routine, I went too far once and I tell you it was like a launch at cape canaveral, so I backed off for a few days, don't wannna go through that again, but on the whole (excuse the pun) my general health is much better, my legs don't have cramp, which I used to have EVERY day, I know this stuff has made a difference to me, and I will provide some photos later.
As said before , I am going to go on low drops / frequently, will see how things develop.

[ex sheep]

had my bath with the solution jim said 30 drops and 140 activator i could only manage ten mins then had stomach ache stayed for another 5 mins that was it had to get out it felt like id been drained went asleep for an hour stomach still giving me jip and have the runs now it seams this way is to me more potent will try a lesser dose next time i find the stuff very hard to stomach now the smell i think i will give your idea a try a 1 :1 ratio 1 drop is more than enough for me the bath is a good one :) just tried a 1 drop felt sick straight a way think the bath is a good idea

Would it be possible to ease off for a couple of days to sort of recover a bit, and then gradually build up again, I don't want to see you over do it manit.

[manit]

Would it be possible to ease off for a couple of days to sort of recover a bit, and then gradually build up again, I don't want to see you over do it manit.

ex sheep even thinking about it starts to make me feel yuk and having one drop makes me feel ill i think its the thought of me drinking the stuff thats all its a mind thing i think but the bath works well for me ten mins 15 pushing it then i am out and need a lie down just feel drained :)

[coco]

Hi coco, doing great with this stuff, but I took a break of about a week and a half, and just started up again yesterday.
I think the big secret here is taking it real slow at first, (unless there's something seriously wrong of course) and sticking to that particular routine, I went too far once and I tell you it was like a launch at cape canaveral, so I backed off for a few days, don't wannna go through that again, but on the whole (excuse the pun) my general health is much better, my legs don't have cramp, which I used to have EVERY day, I know this stuff has made a difference to me, and I will provide some photos later.
As said before , I am going to go on low drops / frequently, will see how things develop.

Good to hear, friend. Yes, I am familiar with the 'Cape Canaveral Effect' myself. Lol!

Leg cramps can be such a miserable thing. I'm so glad to hear you suffer them no more. I can tell you my shoulders, elbows, and knees no longer bother me and other improvements have been realized as well.

I know when you first posted here you spoke of a thing or two that was bothering you and now you report improvement. How very happy!!


Manit, perhaps you need to take a small break from MMS? I have a couple of times over weekends.

[specialk85]

One week, then go on maintenance protocol which varies, do something like 5 - 7 drops three times a week.

ok thanks.

[manit]

Good to hear, friend. Yes, I am familiar with the 'Cape Canaveral Effect' myself. Lol!

Leg cramps can be such a miserable thing. I'm so glad to hear you suffer them no more. I can tell you my shoulders, elbows, and knees no longer bother me and other improvements have been realized as well.

I know when you first posted here you spoke of a thing or two that was bothering you and now you report improvement. How very happy!!


Manit, perhaps you need to take a small break from MMS? I have a couple of times over weekends.
hi coco i think i will also taking hemp oil as well it is supposed to be good for all kinds of things i can heal other people but when i come down to me i carnt gutted i need ta find a very good healer:)

[jolinemaria]

I take a bath once a week.
10 drops mms mixed with 50 drops of lemonjuice.
I stay in there 15 minutes or so.
I can really feel the effect. It is pretty strong, but no stomach worries or anything alike. More like being purified in a single blow and the body needs to readjust to the new situation, finds a new balance.
I go straight to bed afterwards and feel pretty good the next morning.

Sometimes I only take a footbath with the same mixture as mentioned above.
This also gives me a good feeling though less strong.

[ex sheep]

I take a bath once a week.
10 drops mms mixed with 50 drops of lemonjuice.
I stay in there 15 minutes or so.
I can really feel the effect. It is pretty strong, but no stomach worries or anything alike. More like being purified in a single blow and the body needs to readjust to the new situation, finds a new balance.
I go straight to bed afterwards and feel pretty good the next morning.

Sometimes I only take a footbath with the same mixture as mentioned above.
This also gives me a good feeling though less strong.

Now that sounds good, going to do that tonight.

[manit]

had my bath with the solution jim said 30 drops and 140 activator i could only manage ten mins then had stomach ache stayed for another 5 mins that was it had to get out it felt like id been drained went asleep for an hour stomach still giving me jip and have the runs now it seams this way is to me more potent will try a lesser dose next time i find the stuff very hard to stomach now the smell i think i will give your idea a try a 1 :1 ratio 1 drop is more than enough for me the bath is a good one :) just tried a 1 drop felt sick straight a way think the bath is a good idea

i think i will try a 1:1 ratio of 10 drops next time in the bath as it wont be as potent hopefully also ya could have a drink as well so it hit you from the inside and out thats got to be a good move guys:D beats drinking the stuff:D

found a great way to take the stuff tried it in milk first bled straight through it yuk and started curdled then a 1:1 ratio 4 drops in my cup of tea and i dont taste a thing so far. plus when i have a brew i can just wiz a few drops in too great no taste what soever with 4 drops try it Guys it works for me well Chuffed give it a go ya know ya want ta.. i thought the same as you are now in tea yuk but no its great no smell nothing magic !!!!!!!!!! think its time for a brew

[lostinstrangeworld]

Mine arrived yesterday, I took 5 drops with lemon juice (had to guess roughly the amount of lemon juice to use...hope that's ok). I took another 5 drops today.

I held my nose drinking it...I must say it's an interesting taste/ experience! :p

I've not experienced any diarrhea or dizziness so far.

I feel fine.

Does the solution still work if you use slightly too much lemon juice?
I drank it down with mineral water.

[manit]

Mine arrived yesterday, I took 5 drops with lemon juice (had to guess roughly the amount of lemon juice to use...hope that's ok). Another 5 today.

I held my nose drinking it...I must say it's an interesting taste/ experience! :p

I've not experienced any diarrhea or dizziness so far.

I feel fine.

hi lost trust me after you hit a high drop you will hate the stuff me even smelling the stuff makes me feel ill thats why i add mine to a cup of tea gion for a big one now 1:1 ratio 20 drops of each in my tea this i will taste ive tried all kinds of stuff but it still bleeds through. and whizzing in to a cup of hot tea works for me:D

well i have just had a 20 drop in my cup of tea and there is a slight smell and taste but not a problem at all this has to be the way to take it just waiting to see what happens now prob the runs

[lostinstrangeworld]

Are you sure that the hot water won't affect it? Holding your nose whilst drinking it stops you from tasting it....therefore in a cold drink it can be over and done with very quickly.

[manit]

Are you sure that the hot water won't affect it? Holding your nose whilst drinking it stops you from tasting it....therefore in a cold drink it can be over and done with very quickly.

just the smell makes me feel sick i am sure hot water dont affect it when you drink it with water or anything for that matter apart from vitamin c its locked in there when i chuck mms in the bath its hotter than my cup of tea thats for sure and it work very quick as well yes this stuff defo works in a brew coz i am just starting to get a very slight headache now at my forehead wow that was very quick shit:D wounder how long before i get the runs this is defo the way for me to take it in my cup of tea thats for sure

[coco]

hi coco i think i will also taking hemp oil as well it is supposed to be good for all kinds of things i can heal other people but when i come down to me i carnt gutted i need ta find a very good healer:)

I've seen hemp oil discussed in other threads. Experiment with the combination - I doubt at the same time or in the same cup? I surely don't think any singular thing is the answer to all. Let us know how it goes! Good luck to you!!

[manit]

I've seen hemp oil discussed in other threads. Experiment with the combination - I doubt at the same time or in the same cup? I surely don't think any singular thing is the answer to all. Let us know how it goes! Good luck to you!!

coco have tried it with hemp oil bled through not nice asked people on other forums about putting solution in hot water ie a cup of tea said i dont matter you bath in hot water and it still work just dont put it with any juices with vitamin c in it great but the cup of tea work just great up to about 9 drops i dont smell or taste a thing on a 1:1 ratio just tried
a 20 drop in my cup of tea there is a slight taste and smell but hell its 20 drops of the stuff i do have a very slight headache at my forehead now that is nothing at all great ive found my perfect way to take the stuff nice try it ya carnt taste or smell it:D:D

[coco]

^^

Thanks, will do!! :)

[ex sheep]

coco have tried it with hemp oil bled through not nice asked people on other forums about putting solution in hot water ie a cup of tea said i dont matter you bath in hot water and it still work just dont put it with any juices with vitamin c in it great but the cup of tea work just great up to about 9 drops i dont smell or taste a thing on a 1:1 ratio just tried
a 20 drop in my cup of tea there is a slight taste and smell but hell its 20 drops of the stuff i do have a very slight headache at my forehead now that is nothing at all great ive found my perfect way to take the stuff nice try it ya carnt taste or smell it:D:D

20 drops :eek:
manit, do you like to suffer, seriously, I would like you to cut off for a few days at least, unless there is something seriously wrong, in which case I will shut my trap, best wishes :)

[manit]

20 drops :eek:
manit, do you like to suffer, seriously, I would like you to cut off for a few days at least, unless there is something seriously wrong, in which case I will shut my trap, best wishes :)

Hi Ex sheep yip there is something bad wrong with me a virus thats a bad one i was on 15 drops 3 times a day before i had the runs apart from that nothing at all thats why i started going on a 1:1 ratio i had to see what would happen with a 20 drop 1:1 ratio i have had a bit of stomach ache and a bit of a headache thats it i will go back to 10 or 15 twice daily in my cup of tea works great no smell no taste the best ive tried yet and not moving of it:):D

[wingedwhitedragon]

This stuff sounds more like lite chemotherapy. And can you really trust all claims being made? Take it easy guys... Try Hyssop tea and dead sea salt baths etc.

[jolinemaria]

Yep! It is a chemical and I in fact it is chemotherapy.
I do believe one should take care and listen well to the body's reactions to it.
So far, I feel better because of using it. I take it for a short period and then boost my immune system with healthy foods, healthy living, healthy thoughts.
In a good and healthy immune system pathogens have no chance of survival...
Then mms isn't necessary any longer.

[manit]

Yep! It is a chemical and I in fact it is chemotherapy.
I do believe one should take care and listen well to the body's reactions to it.
So far, I feel better because of using it. I take it for a short period and then boost my immune system with healthy foods, healthy living, healthy thoughts.
In a good and healthy immune system pathogens have no chance of survival...
Then mms isn't necessary any longer.

chemotherapy i suppose it aint that bad ya only on it for a short time the real killer is the HIV medication now that a real bad un this stuff unravels ya very dna of ya body and ya on that for life people on this shit will defo die it will give you aids like symptoms so they say ya died of aids nice when it the meds that are killing ya what a great way to kill half of the people off this planet it a real bad one i know i was on the stuff for 3 years they said my bloods was great but i felt shit most days then one day i woke up and something said stop the shit so i did took me 3 attempts to sack them but i did the bloods results are bad but i feel great put weight back on skins ok and my nails are back to normal instead of split and broken have more energy feel great HiV is only one of mans made illnesses just think off all the rest of them out there its a money making business HIV medication is one big death Sentence slow and very painful so any body who has hiv think about it guys there is a lot of good web sites out there not just the one that want you to just take ya meds like a good little child look 20 odd years and not one cure i wonder why with the meds its a multi trillion doller business think guys hard its your life give me mms any day of the week once ya feel ill thats your tolerance ya just back it off a few drops for me i am on max strength for all the meds i end up on. so to me i knew i would end up on mms max but every body's different out there went back down to 10 drops twice a day 1:1 ratio :):D