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xpleet
01-01-2009, 03:17 PM
Have a look at these.

These are supposedly for 9 year olds, yet I couldn't imagine that 9 year olds would be mainly the ones watching this especially since this aired on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CHAZJr3OE
(if i remember correctly in this vid in one scene she shoves!? up the wall and it gives the (also facial)impression that she has an orgasm)
(edit: video comments point out that the guy on the right at 2:23 has an erection)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azqXygCzO8
(watch for when she presses the 'tube')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI&feature=related
(It takes her a little long to climb aboard doesn't it? This of course asks the viewer to focus on her arse)

Every articulation she makes is clearly sexual, and she is dressed and made up as if she was screaming "ABUSE ME!" and the same goes for the female-vocalism that underwrites her playback.

This is disgusting, it's clearly aiming to transform the peoples' minds into will-less, sexhungry reptiles.

I can only imagine what kind of pitiful state of mind that must be and more and more people are entering it thanks to our sex-media.

comawhite015
01-01-2009, 03:26 PM
It's almost funny how blatant it is.

Loli anyone?

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/94/Fuckyeahlz.gif

edit: no I take it back. It *is* funny how blatant it is :D


Lazy Town is supposedly a kids' show, even though no kid has EVER watched it. The show is mainly geared towards pedophiles and coma victims. Kids rarely find Lazy Town entertaining, but if you are a sensible adult who does not fantasize about underage girls then this shows physically rapes your mental capacity. If you are an intelligent adult then this show pulls out it's abnormally massive joyful, bubbly cock, inserts it into your brain cavity and doesn't stop pounding until it squirts a bucket load of sticky pink happiness into your poor exploited sore brain tissue. Srsly, you feel like a turnip after watching only thirty minutes of this show.

From the 'Encyclopedia Dramatica'.

slayer of cliffracers
01-01-2009, 03:31 PM
You Are A Pirate (Lazy Town)
(It takes her a little long to climb aboard doesn't it? This of course asks the viewer to focus on her arse)

Every articulation she makes is clearly sexual, and she is dressed and made up as if she was screaming "ABUSE ME!" and the same goes for the female-vocalism that underwrites her playback.

This is disgusting, it's clearly aiming to transform the peoples' minds into will-less, sexhungry reptiles.

Xpleet are you a pedophile by any chance. Are you one of thosse will-less, sexhungry reptiles?

This is just paranoia at work here.

brainfreeze
01-01-2009, 03:32 PM
It's almost funny how blatant it is.

Loli anyone?

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/94/Fuckyeahlz.gif

edit: no I take it back. It *is* funny how blatant it is :D


I watched the video and missed that!

But she is saying, fun yeah, so easy mistake.

slayer of cliffracers
01-01-2009, 03:37 PM
I watched the video and missed that!

But she is saying, fun yeah, so easy mistake.

What second is this at?

comawhite015
01-01-2009, 03:37 PM
I watched the video and missed that!

But she is saying, fun yeah, so easy mistake.

Nah, it's the 'Then you'll ha[ve a cake]' line.

Most amusing.

eternal_spirit
01-01-2009, 03:46 PM
Oh ffs I watched the first vid and didn't see what xpleet claimed.

All I could see was a man and girl dancing what's wrong with that?

brainfreeze
01-01-2009, 03:47 PM
Nah, it's the 'Then you'll ha[ve a cake]' line.

Most amusing.

Naughty you, I say ! :p ;)

I'm of the belief that we can see "subliminal" in anything we set our minds to.

Children's TV has been the target for awhile now. Sponge Bob is no longer welcome in Germany, Noddy is not allowed to sleep with Big Ears anymore, and why does Tinky Winky carry a handbag?

Oh yes, it's a subliminal message to "gay up" the baaa-ying crowd, I'm sure.

eternal_spirit
01-01-2009, 03:47 PM
It's almost funny how blatant it is.

Loli anyone?

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/94/Fuckyeahlz.gif

edit: no I take it back. It *is* funny how blatant it is :D



From the 'Encyclopedia Dramatica'.

Are you fuckin serious?

comawhite015
01-01-2009, 03:58 PM
Are you fuckin serious?

Yep. You *do* feel like a turnip after watching 30 minutes of it. It's all true.

edit: It's from the show, Winston. I posted that image for a reason. If such an image is from a children's show, I find it perfectly illustrative of my point that you find it so 'inappropriate'.

unusual_suspect
01-01-2009, 04:20 PM
I have never seen that before wtf? Utter drivel.

No way would I let any blokes who looked like that near a little girl.

xpleet
01-01-2009, 05:42 PM
Ah, thanks to some kind admin/mod, free-speech might still prevail in this forum...


@comawhite015, I saw the image you posted before your post was removed or you removed it :D, I came across it on google when I searched the (real)name of the girl.
I thought this was fake! But it rather seems to actually come from the videoclip, now that i remember. Oh my :eek:

@eternal_spirit We're all cool here :cool:, if you don't like something, then don't reply. I don't want my threads to turn into wild crossfire-battlefields of impulse chatter.

brainfreeze
01-01-2009, 05:50 PM
Ah, thanks to some kind admin/mod, free-speech might still prevail in this forum...


@comawhite015, I saw the image you posted before your post was removed or you removed it :D, I came across it on google when I searched the (real)name of the girl.
I thought this was fake! But it rather seems to actually come from the videoclip, now that i remember. Oh my :eek:

@eternal_spirit We're all cool here :cool:, if you don't like something, then don't reply. I don't want my threads to turn into wild crossfire-battlefields of impulse chatter.

I saw the pic he posted too, after I'd posted my comment :eek: bloody hell!!!!

slayer of cliffracers
01-01-2009, 05:51 PM
@comawhite015, I saw the image you posted before your post was removed or you removed it , I came across it on google when I searched the (real)name of the girl.
I thought this was fake! But it rather seems to actually come from the videoclip, now that i remember. Oh my

:confused::confused::confused: Where in the Video clip is that image?

bemore
01-01-2009, 07:05 PM
Nah I have to disagree. My m8s 8 yr old lad used to watch it so I have seen it and never has anything like that crossed my mind.

I think the motives that drive the prgramme are keeping kids healthy and active and fit, whilst also taking the right amount of fruits and vegetables.

Yes the content is completly random and bollocks, but remember things have got to be slightly "imaginative" because its for kids.


Without sounding nasty in any single way Xpleet maybe you have to think in lengths about what drives you to think like this?????

marpat
01-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Have a look at these.

These are supposedly for 9 year olds, yet I couldn't imagine that 9 year olds would be mainly the ones watching this especially since this aired on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CHAZJr3OE
(if i remember correctly in this vid in one scene she shoves!? up the wall and it gives the (also facial)impression that she has an orgasm)
(edit: video comments point out that the guy on the right at 2:23 has an erection)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azqXygCzO8
(watch for when she presses the 'tube')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI&feature=related
(It takes her a little long to climb aboard doesn't it? This of course asks the viewer to focus on her arse)

Every articulation she makes is clearly sexual, and she is dressed and made up as if she was screaming "ABUSE ME!" and the same goes for the female-vocalism that underwrites her playback.

This is disgusting, it's clearly aiming to transform the peoples' minds into will-less, sexhungry reptiles.

I can only imagine what kind of pitiful state of mind that must be and more and more people are entering it thanks to our sex-media.

You joking? I have kids who have watched that show and I think there is something odd if you find it sexual. If it is stirring such desires within you then I think you need to start looking at yourself and asking some serious questions. You have evidently watched a good few of then enough to analyse them bit by bit.

dreamweaver
01-01-2009, 07:51 PM
Ah, the joys of the "oblong hypnotist". I miss it so much... not.

slayer of cliffracers
01-01-2009, 07:55 PM
You joking? I have kids who have watched that show and I think there is something odd if you find it sexual. If it is stirring such desires within you then I think you need to start looking at yourself and asking some serious questions. You have evidently watched a good few of then enough to analyse them bit by bit.

It's like I asked at the beginning, are you sure you aren't a Pedophile Xpleet?

Someone who finds those videos sexual, is obviously a Pedophile by inclination somewhere along the line.

krakhead
01-01-2009, 08:10 PM
It's like I asked at the beginning, are you sure you aren't a Pedophile Xpleet?

Someone who finds those videos sexual, is obviously a Pedophile by inclination somewhere along the line.

That's a bit harsh and uncalled for.

Personally, I consider the people who are 'obsessed' with 'paedophile' images being subliminally placed in tv shows, adverts, films etc. to be victims of the 'you and your loved ones are under attack' mind-set which appears to have be encouraged, nay, created and controlled by TPTB.

We are told that we should constantly be afraid of others, whether they be immigrants, paedophiles, knife wielding hoodies etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

The people who have fallen for this, start threads like this one.....

bemore
01-01-2009, 08:27 PM
That's a bit harsh and uncalled for.QUOTE]


I agree but it is his opinion, much like yours below


[QUOTE=krakhead;701941]The people who have fallen for this, start threads like this one.....

I aint picking a fight with you Krakhead, but i thought moderators were there to mediate.

You have said its harsh and uncalled for to match him with paedophilic tendencies, which it is. Yet I believe it is also harsh and uncalled for to put people into a group by saying that the reason why they search is created for such purposes.

Just a thought Krakhead thats all....

krakhead
01-01-2009, 08:42 PM
I talked about my opinion. You posted in more definite 'is' terms. "is obviously a paedophile"

And I wasn't commenting on people searching, we're all searching, that's why we're here (I guess!), I was commenting on fear and it's negative effect.

bemore
01-01-2009, 09:15 PM
I talked about my opinion. You posted in more definite 'is' terms. "is obviously a paedophile"

And I wasn't commenting on people searching, we're all searching, that's why we're here (I guess!), I was commenting on fear and it's negative effect.

Moderators do indeed moderate and occasionally mediate (;)), but we are also entitled to our opinions you know :)

Ha ha ha I didnt want you to feel like i was trying to undermime your opinion. No way.

Just wanted to point it out thats all boss!!!

krakhead
01-01-2009, 09:18 PM
Ha ha ha I didnt want you to feel like i was trying to undermime your opinion. No way.

Just wanted to point it out thats all boss!!!

I knew I liked you! You can stay now! ;)

:D

slayer of cliffracers
01-01-2009, 10:02 PM
That's a bit harsh and uncalled for.

Is it? I think it is an accurate assesement as to why someone would consider that kiddies program sexual.

It's not exactly diplomatic, but I truly think that someone who sees pedophilia everywhere, is probably one themselves. I mean the OP even made a judgement of the sexyness of the videos.

notthisshitagain
02-01-2009, 07:19 AM
Well, my little sister still watches that show (she's 7 years old) and sometimes I watch it with her.. well, maybe I'm too dense, but I see nothing sexual in this tv show.

xpleet
02-01-2009, 08:55 AM
This is shocking, I heavily misestimated the awareness-level of the people here. Definatly won't make that mistake again.

clive w
02-01-2009, 11:29 AM
This girl is acting like a bitch.

Obvious.

I think it´s full of sexual shit, too...

marpat
02-01-2009, 11:49 AM
This is shocking, I heavily misestimated the awareness-level of the people here. Definatly won't make that mistake again.


What, you are shocked because we are not all perverts like you? you have read something into a show when it's not there and now you are trying to make out like we are lacking awareness because we dont agree with you.

konnster
02-01-2009, 11:56 AM
You can make everything look suspicious if you put your mind in to it, we call that paranoia!

This is total crap, I personally know that this has nothing to do with pedophilia, I watched all of it and sometimes watch this with my 5 year old son. This is a heavy popular kids show in Iceland, made in Iceland and has created a mass awareness among kids and parents here of the overwhelming crap children are eating and there lack of healthy lifestyle.

The producer Magnús Scheving who also plays "Sportacus" started of with this project many many years ago and back then he had no money and nothing like this show is today. Lazy town started off with just a simple play on stage and then it got very popular because of the positive effect on children and families and there eating habits. It has taken the producer many years to get where he is now.

There is a global conspiracy but not every kids show or a politician is 'IN ON IT' just because they have a public face or a recognition. I just dont buy the idea that this is made for brain washing children with sex just because I see a girl decorate a cake with cream or a guy leaning forward so his dick gets visible though his sweat suit or I see puppets and a guy and a little girl dancing.

sorry just dont.

madamlasher
02-01-2009, 12:02 PM
sexual or not this show is utter rubbish and I wouldn't let my child watch it, I think if i have children i would let them watch minimal TV and play very little video games; get them outside or reading....haha my children are probably gonna hate me

shodan
02-01-2009, 01:21 PM
I don't know if this has been debunked elsewhere but it defo belongs on this thread if its genuine, certainly looks it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RJerMS40c

hirschfelder
02-01-2009, 01:25 PM
I watched that first video and, at the very least, you shouldn't have adolescent girls in short skirts with a grown man dancing behind her like that, should you?

I wouldn't let my daughter do that on TV, perhaps I'm a prude?

Either way, if there is an agenda to carnalise youth or whatever, it could never be exposed because, if you raise concerns, raging paedophiles like Marpat and SlayerofCliff start pointing the finger because of the desires they secretly harbour

Interesting thread, Xpleet. What a shame it can't be discussed maturely and objectively

slayer of cliffracers
02-01-2009, 01:27 PM
This is shocking, I heavily misestimated the awareness-level of the people here. Definatly won't make that mistake again.

Some girl dances around. Some 'awareness' it takes to consider this sexual.

krakhead
02-01-2009, 01:30 PM
I don't know if this has been debunked elsewhere but it defo belongs on this thread if its genuine, certainly looks it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RJerMS40c

This was never broadcast as part of the children's version of the show.

Wiki has this to say about it -

The "adult" version

In 1979, the cast and crew of Rainbow made a special exclusive sketch for the Thames TV staff Christmas tape, sometimes referred to as the "Twangers" episode. This show featured plenty of deliberate sexual innuendo (beginning with Zippy peeling a banana, saying "One skin, two skin, three skin, four..." before being interrupted), and never shown at the time (as it was never intended to be screened to the general public.) Jane also claimed she was blowing with Roger the night before. It also included Geoffrey convincing the viewers to play with their balls, but if they didn't have any balls, they could ask a friend and play with his. Jane also claimed that she was banging with Rod and Roger. Soon, Zippy asked them to stop suggesting whether to play with a blowing tube and maraccas, so they could start singing the 'Plucking Song'.

The clip became famous after being aired on Victor Lewis-Smith's Channel 4 programme TV Offal (1997) and was jokingly referred to as "the pilot episode", which it clearly wasn't as Geoffrey Hayes was presenter at the time. The clip has become widely-spread, first in emails as an attachment and later via online video websites such as YouTube. This has led to many erroneous claims that the episode was publicly broadcast as a regular episode.

hirschfelder
02-01-2009, 01:32 PM
Some girl dances around. Some 'awareness' it takes to consider this sexual.

Have you ever danced with a woman? You seem overly concerned with other people's sexuality so maybe not.

When that man is dancing behind that little girl, he is assuming a vaguely sexual position, often when a man dances (drunkenly) with a woman he wants to get off with, he'll do so from behind because it simulates the sexual act

The only difference in the Lazy Town dancing is that he doesn't have his hands on her hips, but it's an otherwise sexual position

Were they dancing side by side I'd see no problem

shodan
02-01-2009, 01:35 PM
Wiki has this to say about it -

Quote:
The "adult" version

In 1979, the cast and crew of Rainbow made a special exclusive sketch for the Thames TV staff Christmas tape, sometimes referred to as the "Twangers" episode. This show featured plenty of deliberate sexual innuendo (beginning with Zippy peeling a banana, saying "One skin, two skin, three skin, four..." before being interrupted), and never shown at the time (as it was never intended to be screened to the general public.) Jane also claimed she was blowing with Roger the night before. It also included Geoffrey convincing the viewers to play with their balls, but if they didn't have any balls, they could ask a friend and play with his. Jane also claimed that she was banging with Rod and Roger. Soon, Zippy asked them to stop suggesting whether to play with a blowing tube and maraccas, so they could start singing the 'Plucking Song'.

The clip became famous after being aired on Victor Lewis-Smith's Channel 4 programme TV Offal (1997) and was jokingly referred to as "the pilot episode", which it clearly wasn't as Geoffrey Hayes was presenter at the time. The clip has become widely-spread, first in emails as an attachment and later via online video websites such as YouTube. This has led to many erroneous claims that the episode was publicly broadcast as a regular episode.

I find this equally as sick

krakhead
02-01-2009, 01:38 PM
I find this equally as sick

What? People making smutty innuendos for private, not-to-be-broadcast use? Have you never made or laughed at a smutty joke?

shodan
02-01-2009, 01:41 PM
What? People making smutty innuendos for private, not-to-be-broadcast use? Have you never made or laughed at a smutty joke?

not if you come from that angle I guess. I've laughed at very few smutty jokes though.
I find the mix of smutty innuendo and children's program distasteful. but I can see the dubious innocence in it.

krakhead
02-01-2009, 01:46 PM
not if you come from that angle I guess. I've laughed at very few smutty jokes though.
I find the mix of smutty innuendo and children's program distasteful. but I can see the dubious innocence in it.

They were adults making a tape for their own use, no children involved in the filming and it was never intended for broadcast to children.

You need to stop reading the Sun in work! ;)

konnster
02-01-2009, 01:51 PM
sexual or not this show is utter rubbish and I wouldn't let my child watch it, I think if i have children i would let them watch minimal TV and play very little video games; get them outside or reading....haha my children are probably gonna hate me

Well I agree, but life is about balance and freedom, if my kids desperately want to watch this show I wont be a jerk and stand in the way of that just because I have a philosophy about the world and the way it should be and how people should behave, how could I be so arrogant?

How they view reality is totally up to them and I cant control that, but I can have an influence and teach them about spirituality and the nature of reality and all that stuff but to be honest..... I didnt give up watching movies and smoke cigarettes just because I woke up from the manipulation!!
you can watch stupid shit such as the lazy town but at the same time honor knowledge and wisdom and the lame rubbish does not affect you. My children feel and connect with my vibration and I have no objection to the fact that they want to watch stupid shit on TV with some guy dancing and a girl singing, I trust that there minds are stronger then some stupid kids show.

Just to mention it...my girlfriend works at a kindergarden and since the show got aired the children are much more productive on eating healthier and they always quote the show (lazytown) and call vegetables 'sportcandy'.

The show is full of shit.. I agree but we have to remind ourselves that we have to look at things constantly in a different way than the moment before.

I think we have to be very streetwise when we are starting to see conspiracy everywhere!! Instead see the universe as a collective whole, be aware that conspiracies take place but keep balance, in a way the whole world is influenced by a vast conspiracy and EVERYBODY is a part of it. Not just the shapeshifting reptilians, rothchilds and the bushes and what have you. Every person is a card in the house and when that still functions we are all apart of it.

Im not going to program my kids with the program that I want them to have, no thank you.

thank you :D

dreamweaver
02-01-2009, 01:52 PM
This was never broadcast as part of the children's version of the show.

Wiki has this to say about it -

That Wiki explanation is spot on. "Christmas tapes" for internal amusement like that were very much part of the television culture in the "golden age". Like all branches of the media, all the fun has been squeezed out as accountants run everything so editorial and production staff have been slashed to the bone to pay for big bonuses for the execs and shareholders.

This is one of the reasons why there is so little real journalism in the media now. So much information now comes straight out of press releases and newswires (which themselves lift press releases and media briefings directly) and gets put out almost unchallenged. That's partly because newsrooms have only a fraction of the staff they used to have, but having to fill more and more space, so there is no time to check facts properly. Guardian journalist Nick Davies coined a good name for this process: churnalism.

But I digress... ;)

91181
02-01-2009, 01:55 PM
Quick... theres a man bouncing a child on his lap ... :eek: CALL THE COPS.:rolleyes:.




Everyones a suspect mwahhhhhh hhhhaaaa

shodan
02-01-2009, 01:57 PM
They were adults making a tape for their own use, no children involved in the filming and it was never intended for broadcast to children.

Yeah I know I subsequently learnt that from this thread, thats not what I mean. I'm saying I find the concept of smutty innuendo mixed with a childrens program distasteful. Maybe there's a load of children watching it now having a laugh and I'm just a prude? I dunno........

You need to stop reading the Sun in work! ;)

I stopped reading the Sun after Hillsborough

konnster
02-01-2009, 02:06 PM
I watched that first video and, at the very least, you shouldn't have adolescent girls in short skirts with a grown man dancing behind her like that, should you?

I wouldn't let my daughter do that on TV, perhaps I'm a prude?

Either way, if there is an agenda to carnalise youth or whatever, it could never be exposed because, if you raise concerns, raging paedophiles like Marpat and SlayerofCliff start pointing the finger because of the desires they secretly harbour

Interesting thread, Xpleet. What a shame it can't be discussed maturely and objectively

OMG are you kidding me, I understand where you are coming from but I think there is more to discuss here! The reason why you guys see sex written all over it is because that's what your mind does when he sees a female dancing around on a skirt. If people would have balanced minds the last thing they would think of when they look at a kids video is fucking sex. I dont think sex is on childrens minds when they watch this.

Just to keep an open mind, perhaps this skirt/dancing thing is suppose to do what you are trying to imply but it doesn´t have to be does it? Please dear friends try to see the world in multiways otherwise the conspiracy movement will freeze and become just another close minded regime.

dreamweaver
02-01-2009, 02:08 PM
Just to keep an open mind, perhaps this skirt/dancing thing is suppose to do what you are trying to imply but it doesn´t have to be does it? Please dear friends try to see the world in multiways otherwise the conspiracy movement will freeze and become just another close minded regime.
+1

hirschfelder
02-01-2009, 02:21 PM
OMG are you kidding me, I understand where you are coming from but I think there is more to discuss here! The reason why you guys see sex written all over it is because that's what your mind does when he sees a female dancing around on a skirt. If people would have balanced minds the last thing they would think of when they look at a kids video is fucking sex. I dont think sex is on childrens minds when they watch this.

Just to keep an open mind, perhaps this skirt/dancing thing is suppose to do what you are trying to imply but it doesn´t have to be does it? Please dear friends try to see the world in multiways otherwise the conspiracy movement will freeze and become just another close minded regime.

ZOMG no I'm not

Perhaps I don't have a 'balanced mind', whatever that is, but a grown man dancing suggestively behind a 12 yr old girl in a short dress who keeps getting in and out of bed makes me uncomfortable

As I say, I wouldn't let my daughter be in such a TV show. Clearly you would, that's fine

I'm not sure what you mean by the bit I put in bold, then again, I'm not a psychoanalyst. Do you agree that there's an element of something sexual in the first video?

I do try and see the world in 'multiways', but as far as this clip is concerned I simply find it a bit distasteful. As I've already said, I don't know if there's some kind of agenda behind it and I'm not the kind to speculate

Did you also think 'Minipops' was fine?

shodan
02-01-2009, 02:21 PM
OMG are you kidding me, I understand where you are coming from but I think there is more to discuss here! The reason why you guys see sex written all over it is because that's what your mind does when he sees a female dancing around on a skirt. If people would have balanced minds the last thing they would think of when they look at a kids video is fucking sex. I dont think sex is on childrens minds when they watch this.

Just to keep an open mind, perhaps this skirt/dancing thing is suppose to do what you are trying to imply but it doesn´t have to be does it? Please dear friends try to see the world in multiways otherwise the conspiracy movement will freeze and become just another close minded regime.

This thread is discussing the topic perfectly well, rationale debate going on here and kudos to everyone for looking into this disturbing subject and not just frivolously brushing it under the carpet.

ok, we know that our children are being sexualised and targeted by our governments/media.
German governments encouraging fathers to become sexually familiar with their 6 month old babies, penis's drawn into disney movies, and lots lots more. Pole dancing kits for children in tesco's, then we've got unsavoury characters like Gary glitter and jonothan king. the list goes on and on. There is a lot of evidence to suggest there is an agenda out there.

so it can only be healthy to keep an eye on it, analyze it and point it out to others

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YQID7lZ9JlU&feature=related

konnster
02-01-2009, 02:32 PM
+1

Maybe its just me but I am sick of people who claim to be in conspiracy research and say they 'know it all' and have no concept of spirituality and the nature of reality when those concepts are the foundation of our understanding, and then we also have the people who claim to be 'good', 'spiritual' and 'aware' that behave like anything but that and become just like the sheep demanding that everybody should have the same reality, and the world should be this and that and that... its like we are afraid of each others universes because thats where everybody lives in reality, in stead of honoring our differences and welcoming each others vibration.

There is no such thing as right and wrong that is based on our superstition and our lack of understanding of our true nature and origin. We all have our own theories about how thing should be and thats fine but everybody has there own view, and that proves that everybody can be wrong once in a while...the real talent is to be able to move that observation around our consciousness and to be fearless of the challenges that brings....what I see happening sometimes is that people who claim to be aware and enlightened are seeing the bloody logo on there favorite pizza place as some sort of Illuminati symbolism and aliens brought it there when its just old peter the pizzabaker who did it.

We see things not as they are but as we are and there is far more to know about this conspiracy that some people refuse to go because of the fear of letting go there old believe systems...even if they had an 'awakening'....just remember awakenings take place every moment of the great Is-ness and you can hear it if you focus and listen! Everyone place there part in this conspiracy or world or reality or matrix or whatever you want to call it. Even the most enlightened ones.

konnster
02-01-2009, 02:38 PM
This thread is discussing the topic perfectly well, rationale debate going on here and kudos to everyone for looking into this disturbing subject and not just frivolously brushing it under the carpet.

ok, we know that our children are being sexualised and targeted by our governments/media.
German governments encouraging fathers to become sexually familiar with their 6 month old babies, penis's drawn into disney movies, and lots lots more. Pole dancing kits for children in tesco's, then we've got unsavoury characters like Gary glitter and jonothan king. the list goes on and on. There is a lot of evidence to suggest there is an agenda out there.

so it can only be healthy to keep an eye on it, analyze it and point it out to others

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YQID7lZ9JlU&feature=related

Sure I know about all that, Im on the same page as you on that subject. Just read what I wrote earlier and I truly apologize if I have offended anybody but the truth is not everything is set up the way it looks just because it appears that way to some people.

Sure there are sexual subliminals and dick/vagina/breast symbolism in cartoons but its not always that way.

That it my point.

xpleet
02-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Back to LT, for everybodys information:

LazyTown is an Icelandic children's television program (where it is known as Latibær) that features a cast and crew from Iceland, the United Kingdom and the United States. It airs on Nick Jr, Noggin, YTV, BBC One, CBeebies, RTP2, ABC1, Super RTL, Sjónvarpið, Discovery Kids, V-me and Ketnet.

No. of series 2
No. of episodes 52


The venom is widespread.


Interesting thread, Xpleet. What a shame it can't be discussed maturely and objectively

Cheers,
I too am very sorry for that but I feel that it's not a waste of my time as long as even one or a few get my point.



People who have the least little understanding of psychology know what this does to a person and what the consequences for a child watching this can be as it anchors in their memory and subconscious.

konnster
02-01-2009, 03:06 PM
ZOMG no I'm not

Perhaps I don't have a 'balanced mind', whatever that is, but a grown man dancing suggestively behind a 12 yr old girl in a short dress who keeps getting in and out of bed makes me uncomfortable

As I say, I wouldn't let my daughter be in such a TV show. Clearly you would, that's fine

I'm not sure what you mean by the bit I put in bold, then again, I'm not a psychoanalyst. Do you agree that there's an element of something sexual in the first video?

I do try and see the world in 'multiways', but as far as this clip is concerned I simply find it a bit distasteful. As I've already said, I don't know if there's some kind of agenda behind it and I'm not the kind to speculate

Did you also think 'Minipops' was fine?

I have made myself very clear, It was not my intent to be a jerk about this, I understand where you are coming from etc. etc. But I just always have a 'but' about all this stuff when we try to label everything as a part of the agenda. Some children shows are shit and some are not, but what I question is that:

Is the movie appearing sexual to the observer when in reality the producers had no intention of doing it that way? Kids like lollypops dont they? why not make an episode about lollypops? and btw the guy is just dancing with the girl, and the guy who plays the dancing guy is the director of the show.

or.. is there an occult pedophilia going on in the show where mind control and corruption is the governor? Where children are programmed like slaves trough a show called 'Lazy town' though sexual symbolism and lollipops?

Me I honestly dont know... I am just pointing this out... in this case I am not buying the latter.

brainfreeze
02-01-2009, 03:16 PM
I would like to point out that ANYTHING is wank fodder for paedos. I watch a programme once where the paedos in prison admitted to scanning the newspapers for reports on paedos, to wank to!

dreamweaver
02-01-2009, 03:19 PM
I would like to point out that ANYTHING is wank fodder for paedos. I watch a programme once where the paedos in prison admitted to scanning the newspapers for reports on paedos, to wank to!

Spot on. The following quote is from someone who used to work at a prison dealing with sex offenders:

"Amongst my many case histories from my 20 years in the criminal justice system I had a number of individuals who, for reasons of situation, were isolated from access to images of their preferred 'sexual' outlet - this did not reduce their interest in the behaviour - it merely caused them to produce their own material by adapting ordinary photographs, making sketches and writing stories."

For many years the most popular masturbatory icons of fixated paedophiles were the pictures of children who carried the title of Miss Pears and were used in the advertising campaign for Pears soap. All soft focus and romanticised.

Although by no means a universal truth the tendancy is for many fixated paedophiles to prefer the 'romantic innocent child image' whereas the regressed paedophile may well seek out images where the child is presented as the 'sexually aware little adult'- ie dressed in clothes that one would normally associate with a much older age group - often wearing make up.

Catalogues that have childrenswear sections are often found amongst the personal possessions of arrested peadophiles - along with cuttings from local papers containing pictures of school swimming teams, travel brochures depicting children playing on the beach, videotapes of the t.v. series Grange Hill - the list goes on and on and the images used as icons are far more likely to be ones considered as 'everyday' than ones 'specifically produced'."

konnster
02-01-2009, 03:21 PM
I would like to point out that ANYTHING is wank fodder for paedos. I watch a programme once where the paedos in prison admitted to scanning the newspapers for reports on paedos, to wank to!

Yep this threat is sickening, Im out. Later

Love

marpat
02-01-2009, 03:55 PM
I don't know if this has been debunked elsewhere but it defo belongs on this thread if its genuine, certainly looks it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RJerMS40c


That was hilarious. I thought it was a spoof. The producers must have laughed their arses off. I think it wsa more of a practical joke than anything sinister.

shodan
02-01-2009, 03:58 PM
That was hilarious. I thought it was a spoof. The producers must have laughed their arses off. I think it wsa more of a practical joke than anything sinister.

Glad you enjoyed it

hirschfelder
02-01-2009, 04:04 PM
But I just always have a 'but' about all this stuff when we try to label everything as a part of the agenda ...

... the guy is just dancing with the girl, and the guy who plays the dancing guy is the director of the show.

or.. is there an occult pedophilia going on in the show where mind control and corruption is the governor? Where children are programmed like slaves trough a show called 'Lazy town' though sexual symbolism and lollipops?

Me I honestly dont know... I am just pointing this out... in this case I am not buying the latter.

Who is labelling everything as 'part of the agenda'?

I don't think you can put the perceived (by some) sexual overtones down to either pure innocence or 'occult peadophilia' and 'mind control', there could be hundreds of different reasons for it, assuming it isn't just a man innocently gyrating with a child

jp13
02-01-2009, 04:25 PM
I much prefer Jakers, to that candy coloured crap:D

slayer of cliffracers
02-01-2009, 10:41 PM
Have you ever danced with a woman? You seem overly concerned with other people's sexuality so maybe not.

When that man is dancing behind that little girl, he is assuming a vaguely sexual position, often when a man dances (drunkenly) with a woman he wants to get off with, he'll do so from behind because it simulates the sexual act

The only difference in the Lazy Town dancing is that he doesn't have his hands on her hips, but it's an otherwise sexual position

Were they dancing side by side I'd see no problem

Have I ever danced with a woman? Yes I do all the time, at least when I'm at Uni. I'm very popular I think. :):)

So basically your problem is that the man is dancing behind the small girl?

Well, does everyone in your world have to go to great lengths to remove anything that might be constued by very imaginitive pedophilic minds as being sexual?

I think you are the one overly concerned with 'other people's sexuality' here. You would have to employ a whole legion of pedophiles to censor every childrens program in order that nothing sexy to pedophiles could concievably exist in the program.

madamlasher
03-01-2009, 02:19 AM
^^ thank you konnster, very valid points you raise, and you are totally right about balance.... i think i was channeling my father there, it's exactly what he would have said....eeep must not turn into my parents!

darketernal
03-01-2009, 10:52 AM
I watched all three of these clips very carefully and saw nothing sexual involving the girl... here is what I did see.

I think the first one had homosexual undertones. Those two men were wearing tight pants, and dressed in a manner I have trouble seeing a straight man acting. I really got the vibe that they might be a more than just friends.

I think the 3rd one was trying to push some kind of Christian agenda becuase they were all waving around ballon crosses. I find this disturbing.

The MAIN thing which I am convinced this show is promoting is drugs. There is no fucking way I would be able to sit through an entire episode of this unless I was very stoned.

I hate to say it, but I have difficulty seeing anyone but a pedophile finding this show sexual... and by that I mean one who gets a hardon just seeing a 10 year old girl dressed conservatively walking down the road. I'm call this one like I see it.

krakhead
03-01-2009, 11:07 AM
I watched all three of these clips very carefully and saw nothing sexual involving the girl... here is what I did see.

I think the first one had homosexual undertones. Those two men were wearing tight pants, and dressed in a manner I have trouble seeing a straight man acting. I really got the vibe that they might be a more than just friends.

I think the 3rd one was trying to push some kind of Christian agenda becuase they were all waving around ballon crosses. I find this disturbing.

The MAIN thing which I am convinced this show is promoting is drugs. There is no fucking way I would be able to sit through an entire episode of this unless I was very stoned.

I hate to say it, but I have difficulty seeing anyone but a pedophile finding this show sexual... and by that I mean one who gets a hardon just seeing a 10 year old girl dressed conservatively walking down the road. I'm call this one like I see it.

So the people who are worried about paedophiles see paedophile imagery. You see 'disturbing' homosexual and christian imagery, with an undertone of substance abuse.

I think this is helping us all to see that we project far more INTO these images than they provide to us.

darketernal
03-01-2009, 11:18 AM
So the people who are worried about paedophiles see paedophile imagery. You see 'disturbing' homosexual and christian imagery, with an undertone of substance abuse.

I think this is helping us all to see that we project far more INTO these images than they provide to us.

It could be. Maybe I am a little gay deep down inside and have not come to terms with it, and I feel like I should smoke weed even though I don't. LoL

angel wings
03-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I must say I've watched the video clips and can't see what the OP is saying. I do agree there are subliminals in kids TV but with this I can't see the peado references.

hirschfelder
03-01-2009, 02:50 PM
1. So basically your problem is that the man is dancing behind the small girl?

2. Well, does everyone in your world have to go to great lengths to remove anything that might be constued by very imaginitive pedophilic minds as being sexual?

3. You would have to employ a whole legion of pedophiles to censor every childrens program in order that nothing sexy to pedophiles could concievably exist in the program.

1. Oh dear. No. I've already explained why I think it has sexual overtones

2. You don't have to have a 'pedophilic mind' to recognise sexual connotations in things, just some kind of basic sexual experience or understanding.

3. What the fuck? Why would you need to employ paedophiles? What are you babbling about? Just don't have grown men gyrating suggestively behind anything other than grown men or women

Honestly. Why can't people just disagree? I find some of the imagery distasteful, you don't. Why on earth are you painting these ridiculous scenarios where nonces are employed as censors?

I might just be being a prude, I don't know. All I can say, again, is that I wouldn't let my daughter be involved in such scenes, just as I wouldn't let her be in those Disney underwear adverts that were discussed on here. What I'm saying is really that simple

I can't believe I'm even replying to this, in fact...

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

rhydra
03-01-2009, 03:48 PM
The crime is nothing more than an insult to children's intelligence to be honest, visual tat. Exaggerated expressions, movements, garish colours, terrible overacting etc. There is no quality control on children's programmes any more, most of them seem to be low on substance, high on annoyance.

noobcybot
04-01-2009, 02:29 AM
Guys, I have to agree, this shit is weird to me, I dont know if its a cultural thing or not but I know people in childcare and have been for years who are now not allowed to touch children to console them after theyve fallen and such. If they arent allowed to ( iam reffering to a mother of three here ) to console children then how is this show allowed?
I found it really reminiscent of the recent Speedracer movie too. Is there any connection there?

bemore
04-01-2009, 12:57 PM
Its outlandish, with extravagant movements and bright colours because its simply for children.

Its origin isnt english, i think its from norway/poland as someone in this thread mentioned. So its not gonna appeal in style there to some people.

I have seen it in the past and whilst it was childish, I didnt really get any sexual innuendo from it. Just mind numbing boringness from its simplicity and boring content.

Who knows though, the world is a pretty fucked up place anyway so if the story of subliminal messages did surface then I wouldnt be surprised LOL.

father ted
04-01-2009, 01:50 PM
The crime is nothing more than an insult to children's intelligence to be honest, visual tat. Exaggerated expressions, movements, garish colours, terrible overacting etc. There is no quality control on children's programmes any more, most of them seem to be low on substance, high on annoyance.

That's bad enough.

I think that girl will be famous some day, shades of Britney Spears, Hillary Duff etc.

unusual_suspect
04-01-2009, 02:03 PM
I watched all three of these clips very carefully and saw nothing sexual involving the girl... here is what I did see.

I think the first one had homosexual undertones. Those two men were wearing tight pants, and dressed in a manner I have trouble seeing a straight man acting. I really got the vibe that they might be a more than just friends..

Trust me darketernal, I didn't want to offend anyone and say so, but I have to speak my mind - I saw this and thought "this is well gay!"

Maybe it was the moustaches, but I don't think either of them would be a threat to anyone of the female gender!

I completely agree with you on this one, but I see nothing sinister about having gay people in kids programs.

I think the 3rd one was trying to push some kind of Christian agenda becuase they were all waving around ballon crosses. I find this disturbing..

That completely passed me by, I will have to watch it again.

The MAIN thing which I am convinced this show is promoting is drugs. There is no fucking way I would be able to sit through an entire episode of this unless I was very stoned.

I totally agree with you, I did actually think, this would be quite funny to watch after a line of ketamine.

I hate to say it, but I have difficulty seeing anyone but a pedophile finding this show sexual... and by that I mean one who gets a hardon just seeing a 10 year old girl dressed conservatively walking down the road. I'm call this one like I see it.

+1

supertzar
04-01-2009, 05:11 PM
Insinuating that the OP has the mind of a pedophile for pointing out objections to this show is horrible. No doubt there is sex programming in it. Kid's shows have been using sex for a long time. The Josie and the Pussycats cartoon turned me on when I was only three or four.

noobcybot
04-01-2009, 05:21 PM
I have to agree. Its just plain immature to insinuate that and that thought process is based on guilt and suspicion, basically some people are going to end up fearing to say what is true to them for fear of being called a peadophile.

lostinstrangeworld
04-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Oh ffs I watched the first vid and didn't see what xpleet claimed.

All I could see was a man and girl dancing what's wrong with that?
Yeah.

I have been wondering lately whether a lot of stuff in this side of the conspiracy is more to do with paranoia.

Sorry. :o

deafbred
04-01-2009, 08:04 PM
seen a 'kids songs' cd commercial on tv today

you know how they have those 'falic' symbols/statues/monuments..

the washington monument is it? ... that pointy thing in the sky..

yeah.. in the commercial there was a asian girl like 12 11 or whatever..

dancing in front of it.. kind of made me think..

i rather not imagine at all

i know there are things in this world that are going on against kids that are UNSPEAKABLE

if anyone hurts a child...TO HELL THEY GO>PERIOD! would be better if that person have not been born at all, if they hurt the little ones

noobcybot
04-01-2009, 09:05 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-uw69zHDAC4

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/images/200608/article13_image01.jpg

Hmmmmmm, a girl arrives from our world into their

Other than that we have an effergy of Saturn in the opening (need I explain the probable meaning of this). And a child putting up a poster for a presidential candidate.

brainfreeze
04-01-2009, 09:08 PM
I have to agree. Its just plain immature to insinuate that and that thought process is based on guilt and suspicion, basically some people are going to end up fearing to say what is true to them for fear of being called a peadophile.

And adults will soon be more alienated from our youths than they already are in fear of being called a paedophile when engaging them! :eek:

Nothing like a whip round of mass hysteria!

dreamweaver
04-01-2009, 09:09 PM
Other than that we have an effergy of Saturn in the opening (need I explain the probable meaning of this).
Sure you're not talking out of Uranus? ;)

Sorry, couldn't resist. :p

noobcybot
04-01-2009, 09:13 PM
Fuck of Dreamweaver ;)

I find that joke tiresome and not the least bit droll :p

eternal_spirit
04-01-2009, 09:17 PM
Insinuating that the OP has the mind of a pedophile for pointing out objections to this show is horrible. No doubt there is sex programming in it. Kid's shows have been using sex for a long time. The Josie and the Pussycats cartoon turned me on when I was only three or four.
Yes out of order
Wilma Flintstone done it for me:p
And her off Scooby Doo.

dreamweaver
04-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Fuck of Dreamweaver ;)

I find that joke tiresome and not the least bit droll :p

Oooooooooh, get her!

http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/football_handbags_argentine.jpg

xpleet
04-01-2009, 10:00 PM
Most people have no idea, Lazytown has one of the more obvious, direct forms of sexual programming. Other kids shows are way, way more subtle and still effective.

But this is in plain sight. People who deny this have their eyes wide shut. Period :)

noobcybot
04-01-2009, 10:06 PM
Hey Dreamweaver the 90s called, they want their popular jokes back.

noobcybot
04-01-2009, 10:10 PM
http://www.globalpov.com/images/stewie.gif

Stewie: (laughs) Oh, gosh, that's funny. That's really funny. Do you write your own material? Do you, because that is so fresh. I've never heard anyone make that joke before. God, what a clever, smart girl you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. Mmm, that's so fresh too. Any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me as long as we're hitting this phenomena at the height of their popularity? Because, I'm here. God, you're so funny.

astral_girl
04-01-2009, 10:59 PM
Julianna Rose Mauriello — Date of Birth: May 26, 1991-shes actually alot older in real life than shes portrayed in the show.

dreamweaver
04-01-2009, 10:59 PM
[Stewie: (laughs) Oh, gosh, that's funny. That's really funny. Do you write your own material? Do you, because that is so fresh. I've never heard anyone make that joke before. God, what a clever, smart girl you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. Mmm, that's so fresh too. Any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me as long as we're hitting this phenomena at the height of their popularity? Because, I'm here. God, you're so funny.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1373/1276202472_875ce2a422.jpg

:p

merlincove
04-01-2009, 11:51 PM
Kids dancing around and being happy isn't pedophilia.

Xpleet, you alluded to sexual programming hidden in a clip of a young girl squirting cream onto a cake, having an orgasm while jumping, and seeing a guy with a hard on? Well I didn’t see any of that in these clips.

What I did see was a young girl’s vague portrayal at overt sexuality by acting older than she really is. Or acting younger than she really is.

>>Julianna Rose Mauriello — Date of Birth: May 26, 1991-shes actually alot older in real life than shes portrayed in the show. <<<

But then again are kids not allowed to dance, have fun and be smiley in today’s sterile world?

Other members slating of the OP and name calling was a little bit severe I think.

Xpleet’s appraisal of the hidden themes of these clips does not make him anything more than a concerned viewer.

We equate love with happiness, and seeing the portrayal of overt happiness within such clips does not necessarily equate that the viewer has pedophilic tendencies. To think that shows that the accuser is nothing more than a victim of the media’s constant alarm bells toward pedophilia. Society has become oversensitive to the role between adults and children to such a degree that anyone seen hanging around a kids play area or school is instantly branded as a sexual deviant. They might just be waiting for their own kids? Ochams razor in true effect. And such reasoning is a tool of the machine, the powers that be, to instill fear and the need to be afraid into our hearts. Because the media tells us that pedophiles and sexual predators exist and that they are everywhere, we see it on the news and there are neighbors who say things like ‘well, he seemed normal enough, I’d never have thought he was a pedo’ And the media programs us with that – in the same way that it programs us to carefully view Muslim’s in case they might be terrorists in our midst – we look suspiciously at everyone and we point fingers of blame continually.

The media cram the fear of pedophilia into our very being, they highlight these things constantly and it is difficult to pick up a paper or switch on the TV and not be hit by the constant barrage of fear that they throw at us in this instance.

Lazytown comes to our screens, and because we have been programmed to see sexual content in everything, some see sexual content where it may not exist - in inoffensive gestures and expressions, and we view ourselves according to our program, our book of law.

Our book of law says it is wrong to view a child as being sexually provocative, and when a program shows a girl smiling and having fun, if we equate smiling and having fun to sex, which many of us do, it is easy to equate the impression these clips give as being sexual in content.

To find them sexually appealing, that is a sign of pedophilia, and xpleet didn’t say anything about finding them appealing in any way – quite the opposite in fact.

The thing is that pedophiles (phile = to love, or to be in love with, pedo = of children) find kids sexually attractive. A pedo watches video’s of abuse and has a desire to abuse children.

Are the cops who watch abuse video’s pedophiles by definition? If they find sexual gratification in them, yes, of course.

Do pedophiles watch and toss off to lazytown? I doubt it.

I'd worry about anyones sanity if they could sit through more than two clips of lazytown without having an anurism. It's enough to turn your brain to mush, if these clips are anything to go by :rolleyes:

Edit: and of course if this girl is 16 / 17, whatever age she was when these vids were shot, it does seem a little odd that she is portraying an eight or nine year old. As a potentially sexual active teenager, placing her into a role of a 9 year old does set the bar of morality extremely low.

So what concepts are the media company seeding into the minds of both kids and adults who see these shows, if they are highlighting a 16 year old girl who is potentially sexually active and yet is acting 9 years old?

i think it highlights some very deep morality issues, and in doing so i feel that that then turns something innocent (a young girl dancing and having fun) into a very dark monster. The message that that gives out is very scary.

So it is ok for us to see this girl, Julianna, as being attractive because she is 16? Is it any less ok for someone to find her attractive when she is pretending to be 8 or 9? You can almost hear the sicko’s reasoning it out in their minds, it’s ok to fancy her and have thoughts about her because she isn’t really 9!

And all the time reasoning in their minds that it isn’t wrong – simply due to semantics. IMO it is wrong because they aren’t lusting after a girl who is almost 18 years old, but they are lusting after a portrayal of a 9 year old! That is fucked up, and I think that the media company should be bought to task if that is the case?

But, at the end of the day, I think any reasonable and sane adult would not see these video’s as sexually inviting or as toss-off material. Apologies for being so vulgar, but I can’t think of a better way to put it.

They are funny at best, which is probably why kids find them so enjoyable.

The thing is that we are living in a muted and blinkered society that thinks it is aware. Pedophilia is a tool to create fear, and a bloody good one at that, because it works right across the board. And it is a difficult subject to raise for fear of condemnation, what one person sees as wrong another will see no wrong in, which leads, as this thread has shown to finger pointing and accusations made in poor taste and without substance.

Xpleet, thank you for posting this thread. I may not agree with some of your points, but I kinda see where you are coming from in highlighting something that you saw as a concern. Well done mate.

We don’t always look at things with the same eyes because we are all very different people and it takes a brave, or unassuming person, to stand up and be counted for what they believe to be right or wrong. Especially within such a dark arena.



peace

noobcybot
05-01-2009, 12:27 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1373/1276202472_875ce2a422.jpg

:p


Ah man, I come on the internet to get away from the Yorkshire sense of "humour".

belladonna
05-01-2009, 04:18 PM
Nah I have to disagree. My m8s 8 yr old lad used to watch it so I have seen it and never has anything like that crossed my mind.

I think the motives that drive the prgramme are keeping kids healthy and active and fit, whilst also taking the right amount of fruits and vegetables.

Yes the content is completly random and bollocks, but remember things have got to be slightly "imaginative" because its for kids.


Without sounding nasty in any single way Xpleet maybe you have to think in lengths about what drives you to think like this?????
I agree...............my 9 year old daughter watched it when she was younger and now my grandaughter watches it. It does not show any sexual tendancies that any child would even dream of thinking and come to that neither would any healthy minded adult.
Yes, its possible that an 'unhealthy' mindset could find sexual content in this programe, but that kind of person will find such content in anything they choose to see it in.
We need to let our kids enjoy a programe for what it is, albeit take care of what they watch, and not become obsessive.

supertzar
05-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Don't you guys think this is a little bit strange of a setup for a show? The only human beings are the young girl and the two guys, one of whom is creepy and the other is a protector figure, a knight in shining armor. Why aren't there any other kids or grown females?

dreamweaver
05-01-2009, 08:41 PM
I now have that stupid "Bing Bang" song in my head thanks to this bloody thread. :mad:

white horse
05-01-2009, 11:52 PM
Bit torn on this thread.

I know plenty of young girls for who Stephanie 'The Pink One' (errrrmm) is a total hero. That is it. There is no sexual allusion and I detect non at all in the program making. There's a girl role model and a man role model. It's all very safe and comforting, especially for young girls.

However - I do also see that LT is a true paedophile's wet dream. They have had lots of problems with LT fan websites that have to be monitored and patrolled constantly cos inbetween the kids and parents discussing LT they keep getting invaded by paeds talking about how they'd like to fnck Stephanie (at the start of LT, she is a 14yr old playing a 10 year old).

That's not the program makers fault. Hard core peados will hang around a school for a glimpse of some girls, but does that mean the school panders to them? No.

Peados will find their kicks anywhere young girls are... and there aren't many programs with young live action girls, they are all animated or puppets.

drhemp
06-01-2009, 12:07 AM
My son used to be terrified of this show when he was about 4 years old, I mean really scared. I sometimes put it on as a joke, but then realised it perhaps wasn't funny as the poor sod really freaked out.

Funny thing is, he doesn't mind it now, though I think he's grown out of it.

I must say it is a very weird show, it's from Iceland apparently.

It certainly never occurred to me to have anything to do with peados, but then again that wouldn't exactly be the first thing to cross my mind; I just think it's a bit crap.

comawhite015
06-01-2009, 06:02 AM
I now have that stupid "Bing Bang" song in my head thanks to this bloody thread. :mad:

The one about baking cakes is catchy as hell as well. It was in my head for hours the other day.

darketernal
06-01-2009, 07:01 AM
The one about baking cakes is catchy as hell as well. It was in my head for hours the other day.

It is. It is a horrible song, and she can't sing, but it was stuck in my head for two days after watching this.

deathcultreject
06-01-2009, 06:39 PM
Have a look at these.

These are supposedly for 9 year olds, yet I couldn't imagine that 9 year olds would be mainly the ones watching this especially since this aired on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CHAZJr3OE
(if i remember correctly in this vid in one scene she shoves!? up the wall and it gives the (also facial)impression that she has an orgasm)
(edit: video comments point out that the guy on the right at 2:23 has an erection)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azqXygCzO8
(watch for when she presses the 'tube')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI&feature=related
(It takes her a little long to climb aboard doesn't it? This of course asks the viewer to focus on her arse)

Every articulation she makes is clearly sexual, and she is dressed and made up as if she was screaming "ABUSE ME!" and the same goes for the female-vocalism that underwrites her playback.

This is disgusting, it's clearly aiming to transform the peoples' minds into will-less, sexhungry reptiles.

I can only imagine what kind of pitiful state of mind that must be and more and more people are entering it thanks to our sex-media.

That looked quite innocent to me.

deathcultreject
06-01-2009, 06:47 PM
Most people have no idea, Lazytown has one of the more obvious, direct forms of sexual programming. Other kids shows are way, way more subtle and still effective.

But this is in plain sight. People who deny this have their eyes wide shut. Period :)

I'm completely bemused.

As someone who's been stalked by people who combine violence and threats and agressive attempts at NLP hypnosis combined with repeated propaganda in favour of sexual violence and child molestation . . .

I couldn't see anything sexual at all in those lazy town clips. Have you guys ever had sex? It's nothing like that.

The only thing that looked a bit ropey was the icing sugar.

deathcultreject
06-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Society has become oversensitive to the role between adults and children to such a degree that anyone seen hanging around a kids play area or school is instantly branded as a sexual deviant. They might just be waiting for their own kids?

I live opposite a school, and I've only caught one person there who was a definate paedo trying to ingratiate himself with the parents.

Here's a list of things which led me to that conclusion.

he has . . .

1) Close involvement with a gang which routineley intimidates and blackmails people who report sex crimes to the police, and also harasses their family.

2) Close involvement with people who gang stalk me (I have Multiple Personality Disorder, so they regard me as a paedophile victim who is giving evidence just by existing)

3) Harassed me with such gangs and claimed to have blackmail pictures of me.

4) Repeated things which have been leaked from a black magic order called "Illuminates of Thanateros" and were leaked by the pro mind control pro paedophile contingent of that order. He repeated a distortion of a ritual which was distorted exactly the same way the nonces had distorted it.

5) He was pointed out to me as someone who had 'shagged' a friend's under age niece.

6) I remember seeing him with two men in a bar who had very young terrified girls with them (about age 10) whom they were feeding Ouzo and snogging and groping.

So I decided it would be a good idea to beat him up a bit . . .

The stalkers didn't like that. They became more desperate to spike me because their standard methods weren't working. When I caught them in the attempt twice, I had the whole thing proven.

darketernal
06-01-2009, 08:37 PM
I live opposite a school, and I've only caught one person there who was a definate paedo trying to ingratiate himself with the parents.

Here's a list of things which led me to that conclusion.

he has . . .

1) Close involvement with a gang which routineley intimidates and blackmails people who report sex crimes to the police, and also harasses their family.

2) Close involvement with people who gang stalk me (I have Multiple Personality Disorder, so they regard me as a paedophile victim who is giving evidence just by existing)

3) Harassed me with such gangs and claimed to have blackmail pictures of me.

4) Repeated things which have been leaked from a black magic order called "Illuminates of Thanateros" and were leaked by the pro mind control pro paedophile contingent of that order. He repeated a distortion of a ritual which was distorted exactly the same way the nonces had distorted it.

5) He was pointed out to me as someone who had 'shagged' a friend's under age niece.

6) I remember seeing him with two men in a bar who had very young terrified girls with them (about age 10) whom they were feeding Ouzo and snogging and groping.

So I decided it would be a good idea to beat him up a bit . . .

The stalkers didn't like that. They became more desperate to spike me because their standard methods weren't working. When I caught them in the attempt twice, I had the whole thing proven.

I would be interested in hearing your story if you have posted it. I thought there might be one behind that username. :D

deathcultreject
06-01-2009, 09:38 PM
I would be interested in hearing your story if you have posted it. I thought there might be one behind that username. :D

A lot of it emerged in bits and pieces on the black vault forums when I started to avoid triggers and recover.

I've never compiled the whole thing.

It would take a lot of work.

darketernal
06-01-2009, 09:52 PM
A lot of it emerged in bits and pieces on the black vault forums when I started to avoid triggers and recover.

I've never compiled the whole thing.

It would take a lot of work.

I understand. Have you read any of mine? Most of mine is in private to a friend on here who documents it, but I have a bit under the reptilian family members sticky. I would like to compare notes sometime.

deathcultreject
06-01-2009, 09:58 PM
I understand. Have you read any of mine? Most of mine is in private to a friend on here who documents it, but I have a bit under the reptilian family members sticky. I would like to compare notes sometime.

I'll check it out. :)

I make a point of only disclosing new information in public, because in the past, bad things have happened to non 'cult' people who have listened in private.

dreamweaver
06-01-2009, 09:59 PM
It is. It is a horrible song, and she can't sing, but it was stuck in my head for two days after watching this.

I actually thought she had a good voice, strong and clear. The songs are terrible cheese, but it is meant to be a kids' show after all.

As others have said previously, it's a bit self-defeating to worry about whether paedos may be getting off on it. Many paedophiles actually prefer completely non-sexual images as this statement from a former Home Office psychologist who dealt with sex offenders shows:

"Amongst my many case histories from my 20 years in the criminal justice system I had a number of individuals who, for reasons of situation, were isolated from access to images of their preferred 'sexual' outlet - this did not reduce their interest in the behaviour - it merely caused them to produce their own material by adapting ordinary photographs, making sketches and writing stories."

For many years the most popular masturbatory icons of fixated paedophiles were the pictures of children who carried the title of Miss Pears and were used in the advertising campaign for Pears soap. All soft focus and romanticised.

Although by no means a universal truth the tendancy is for many fixated paedophiles to prefer the 'romantic innocent child image' whereas the regressed paedophile may well seek out images where the child is presented as the 'sexually aware little adult'- ie dressed in clothes that one would normally associate with a much older age group - often wearing make up.

Catalogues that have childrenswear sections are often found amongst the personal possessions of arrested peadophiles - along with cuttings from local papers containing pictures of school swimming teams, travel brochures depicting children playing on the beach, videotapes of the t.v. series Grange Hill - the list goes on and on and the images used as icons are far more likely to be ones considered as 'everyday' than ones 'specifically produced'."

(I did post this earlier in the thread but htink it's worth repeating)

darketernal
06-01-2009, 10:11 PM
I'll check it out. :)

I make a point of only disclosing new information in public, because in the past, bad things have happened to non 'cult' people who have listened in private.

Yes, I am aware of this problem. That is why I've been selective in chosing my primary outlet of information, and specifically chose a human who is self-aware enough to protect themself. People I loved have been either killed or had their life threatened because of me. As for sending me information, I am safe from harm.

white horse
06-01-2009, 11:33 PM
I take it you two are aware of compartmentalisation and techniques for creating this in young children, and how it can be programmed?

deathcultreject
07-01-2009, 12:17 AM
I take it you two are aware of compartmentalisation and techniques for creating this in young children, and how it can be programmed?

Who me?

Yes.

At the age of 9 / 10 I was called a monster and tortured to fainting point in a converted convent whilst my sister was made to watch and ordered not to say or do anything that would comfort me.

I suffer panic attacks where my vision and minds eye turns to the colours of a stained galss window.

white horse
07-01-2009, 12:23 AM
Who me?

Yes.

At the age of 9 / 10 I was called a monster and tortured to fainting point in a converted convent whilst my sister was made to watch and ordered not to say or do anything that would comfort me.

I suffer panic attacks where my vision and minds eye turns to the colours of a stained galss window.

The poeple who did this to you were using fear and pain to destroy love and beauty.

You cannot go back in time, but you CAN heal. It takes time.

I wish I could do more... :)

white horse
07-01-2009, 12:29 AM
Who me?

Yes.

At the age of 9 / 10 I was called a monster and tortured to fainting point in a converted convent whilst my sister was made to watch and ordered not to say or do anything that would comfort me.

I suffer panic attacks where my vision and minds eye turns to the colours of a stained galss window.

Listen - I know this may make you angry or upset etc ( I hated people telling me things would 'get better' when I was 'suicidal')

So forgive me...

You know the people who did this to you, you know why they did this to you?

They did this because they were afraid of you. Because they recognised you were better and stronger and more beautiful than them. That fills people with fear.

I hope I do not offend you to tell you that I pity the people who did this to you.

I'm sorry if I have stepped over my bounds.

Peace and love. :cool:

deathcultreject
07-01-2009, 12:43 AM
Listen - I know this may make you angry or upset etc ( I hated people telling me things would 'get better' when I was 'suicidal')

So forgive me...

You know the people who did this to you, you know why they did this to you?

They did this because they were afraid of you. Because they recognised you were better and stronger and more beautiful than them. That fills people with fear.

I hope I do not offend you to tell you that I pity the people who did this to you.

I'm sorry if I have stepped over my bounds.

Peace and love. :cool:

I'm sure they rationalised it differently, but thanks all the same :)

I do ask people for prayers and protection / healing magic, but that's more to do with exposing the ongoing stalking and psychological abuse that goes on.

That incident 30 years ago is behind me

darketernal
07-01-2009, 01:35 AM
Listen - I know this may make you angry or upset etc ( I hated people telling me things would 'get better' when I was 'suicidal')

So forgive me...

You know the people who did this to you, you know why they did this to you?

They did this because they were afraid of you. Because they recognised you were better and stronger and more beautiful than them. That fills people with fear.

I hope I do not offend you to tell you that I pity the people who did this to you.

I'm sorry if I have stepped over my bounds.

Peace and love. :cool:

I was DID most of my lie, and yes I am familiar with programing techniques.

I do not hate the people who did this to me. I pity them as well. Many years ago, I had one of them in my crosshairs and almost put a 168 gr sierra matchking through his brainstem... I let him go, because I realized it was time to let go of the anger and the hate. He looked so pitiful to me at that moment, that I didn't shoot. I packed up my gear and left, and chose the path of love instead.

I've seen no sign that this man is a better person today, and he is dying of natural causes right now, but I hold no ill will towards him. I saw him again at a funeral 3 years ago, he scrambled and so did many others when I arived, and what I saw as a broken being and still felt only pity for him.

merlincove
07-01-2009, 03:58 AM
Respect to you guys for being brave enough to talk about this here. No insult ment, to be here and to be free enough to be open is testament enough to your continued belief in your own Self.

i have read a little in David's books about the programing of children in departmentalization process (correct terminology?).

i find myself in a possition of working with many people who have suffered and continue to suffer at the hands of monsters. I have no idea what feelings must have been going through your mind D'eternal as you looked down the barrel of a gun at one of these sick individuals, but respect to you for choosing a path of light and love. That test was a grave one i would sincerely hope and pray no one ever has to encounter, although it is a sad indictment of the society that we live in that such tests will continue to be met and overcome.

i was speaking only today to a lady who's daughter was abused by a school teacher, this little girl was so traumatised by her ordeal that she could not even testify against a ring that is now thankfully behind bars, and still over two years on can not talk about it to anyone.

Peace

xpleet
07-01-2009, 08:41 AM
I have no more personal interest in this thread, hence mods and admins can do whatever they like with this thread now and delete it if that brings emselves closer to happiness.

karol2020
13-01-2009, 06:19 PM
I didin´t see any signal or pedophilia or what you say in the videos.... i think you are a bit paranoid, you search for it and you see it...

but as someone has said i only see a girl and a man dancing without any malice...

karol2020
13-01-2009, 06:21 PM
Are you fuckin serious?

I ask the same.... :confused:

karol2020
13-01-2009, 06:23 PM
It's like I asked at the beginning, are you sure you aren't a Pedophile Xpleet?

Someone who finds those videos sexual, is obviously a Pedophile by inclination somewhere along the line.

I totally agree with you....

supertzar
13-01-2009, 07:03 PM
Don't you understand that sexual programming in a show like this is not going to be explicit? I mean they are not going to have the girl come out and do a striptease and lapdance. It's things like at :33 in "You Are A Pirate" where he sings "We'll dig up the BOX - We know it's filled with PRECIOUS BOOTY!!!" and it immediately cuts to her looking at him with this certain strange open-mouthed expression. No chance at all that it was done very carefully to suggest something sexual to the subconscious mind?

noobcybot
13-01-2009, 07:50 PM
I think people are just not admitting it because of the fear of being marked out a wierdo. Thinking from the viewpoint of an ordinary person or parent and not the agenda.

karol2020
14-01-2009, 03:26 AM
I think people are just not admitting it because of the fear of being marked out a wierdo. Thinking from the viewpoint of an ordinary person or parent and not the agenda.

fear of being weirdo? certanly is not that, if was this we would not be at a david icke site, don´t you think?

halleyscomet
14-01-2009, 03:38 PM
When that man is dancing behind that little girl, he is assuming a vaguely sexual position,

Really???

The show is about the benefits of healthy eating and a healthy lifestyle. The dance routine is a pretty run of the mill choreography with some "sportier" versions of standard dance moves inserted in place of the lower energy versions you would see in the average high school recital.

He's not really dancing "with" her. They're both part of the same dance routine. It's a chorus line.


often when a man dances (drunkenly) with a woman he wants to get off with, he'll do so from behind because it simulates the sexual act

The dance routine we're discussing has NOTHING to do with club dancing. You're projecting adult themes onto a dance routine meant to show off athletic skill.


The only difference in the Lazy Town dancing is that he doesn't have his hands on her hips, but it's an otherwise sexual position

Were they dancing side by side I'd see no problem

So your problem with the dance routine isn't the actual motions people made, but the fact that, in order to better frame the shot for a TV screen, the male dancer is diagonally behind the female dancer. In your mind, this offset position constitutes sexual imagery.

not if you come from that angle I guess. I've laughed at very few smutty jokes though.
I find the mix of smutty innuendo and children's program distasteful. but I can see the dubious innocence in it.

You should go back and watch some of the shows you enjoyed as a kid. The Muppet Show is my favorite example. Yes, it was a puppet show, but the content was written at two levels. There was the childish level for kids, and then there were all the adult oriented jokes designed to go right over a kid's head.

I watched it in the US growing up, so I never got to see some of the UK specific segments (It was cut short in the US to make room for more commercials). Since they knew at least one skit an episode would only be aired in the UK, which had more relaxed censorship laws, they got a bit edgier with the UK only content. My favorite was the one where Miss Piggy sang a song about being knocked up and left at the altar. Her costume consisted of a wedding gown and a bulge meant to show a later term pregnancy. :eek:

supertzar
14-01-2009, 05:36 PM
Karol and comet, what is your opinion on my most recent post? I keep seeing people talking about the overt message of living an active life, but what about the subtle juxtaposition of phrases and body language and things like that? Do you realize that ad agencies and shows employ psychologists to create subliminal cues and that this has been going on for a long time? I suppose the techniques have been developed to the point where they are both highly effective and easy to be glossed over by the conscious mind.

noobcybot
14-01-2009, 07:14 PM
fear of being weirdo? certanly is not that, if was this we would not be at a david icke site, don´t you think?

That depends on if you are being pedantic or not. If you think being interested in young children sexually is comparable to being interested in the agenda then have at it.

halleyscomet
14-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Karol and comet, what is your opinion on my most recent post? I keep seeing people talking about the overt message of living an active life, but what about the subtle juxtaposition of phrases and body language and things like that? Do you realize that ad agencies and shows employ psychologists to create subliminal cues and that this has been going on for a long time. I suppose the techniques have been developed to the point where they are both highly effective and easy to be glossed over by the conscious mind.

I think to an extent you're showing confirmation bias. Some of what you're seeing is there because you WANT to see it or because you WANT to derive sinister meanings from the show. I'm not accusing you of wanting to see sexual imagery of children. What I am saying is that I think the handful of subliminal advertising examples that have come to light have put you on edge and make you see some sinister motives in places they don't necessarily exist.

Insinuating that the OP has the mind of a pedophile for pointing out objections to this show is horrible. No doubt there is sex programming in it. Kid's shows have been using sex for a long time. The Josie and the Pussycats cartoon turned me on when I was only three or four.

In the case of Lazytown I think this more a matter of the sexualization of health on our society. Being healthy is sexy and depictions of healthy people are, as a result, often sexy images.

You also have to keep in mind that parents have to be able to tolerate the program if it's going to have long term viability. The massive backlash against Barney and Friends occurred in part because adults got sick and tired of Barney. Sportacus is easy on the eyes of heterosexual women. His actual relationship with the female character is generally shown as a big brother / father figure role. This too will probably resonate with stay at home mothers.

Josie and the Pussycats by the way was probably not targeted at children. Like The Tick, and the Josie and the Pussycats comic book, its demographic seems to have been high school or older characters. I'm not sure it's a good comparison.

Don't you guys think this is a little bit strange of a setup for a show? The only human beings are the young girl and the two guys, one of whom is creepy and the other is a protector figure, a knight in shining armor.

It's part of the psychology of the show.

The theme is a battle between healthy and unhealthy lifestyles. These two roles are personified by real actors. This allows an emotional attachment to the characters. Using human beings also means many emotions can be show that are difficult to express though puppetry. The lone human child is there as another emotional anchor. She lets the kids watching identify with one of the people in the "battleground."

The other characters are basically background dressing for the battle for one little girl's lifestyle. Using puppets means you can have a higher turnover in talent without the auidence noticing. The puppets are part of the "hook" for the program and I'll bet there were drafts on the drawing board that used only puppets.

Why aren't there any other kids or grown females?

Dealing with child actors are, due to labor laws, a royal pain. Limiting the number of real kids on the set simplifies everyone's lives. Take a look at those videos again. All the shots with JUST the puppets could be done without the child actor on set, which means the shooting day can be much longer than is legally allowed for child actors.

As for adult females, you only really want two human adults in the show, the rest are puppets. You could use women for the two adult leads but I'd wager many people would see it as a "girls' show" if you did that. You can't mix the genders for the two adult leads or the show would look like a sexist "men are unhealthy women are the care givers" propaganda piece.

supertzar
14-01-2009, 08:10 PM
I think to an extent you're showing confirmation bias. Some of what you're seeing is there because you WANT to see it or because you WANT to derive sinister meanings from the show. I'm not accusing you of wanting to see sexual imagery of children. What I am saying is that I think the handful of subliminal advertising examples that have come to light have put you on edge and make you see some sinister motives in places they don't necessarily exist.


Maybe I am showing confirmation bias or maybe you are showing denial bias. Who knows? I am asking what you think of a specific part of the show, the "PRECIOUS BOOTY!!!" and the quick cut to the odd expression.

halleyscomet
14-01-2009, 08:22 PM
Maybe I am showing confirmation bias or maybe you are showing denial bias. Who knows? I am asking what you think of a specific part of the show, the "PRECIOUS BOOTY!!!" and the quick cut to the odd expression.

I'm afraid I don't have audio at work at the moment. I did just watch the video without sound while I ate lunch though and didn't see anything untoward. It looked like a low key version of the Wiggles with puppets in place of most of the human dancers.

Can you give me a minute and second mark in the pirate video from the OP so I can take a look?

supertzar
14-01-2009, 08:24 PM
It's at :33. You won't get it if you can't hear it.

halleyscomet
14-01-2009, 08:40 PM
It's at :33. You won't get it if you can't hear it.

He raises his hands and rubs his fingers together. The gesture is commonly meant to indicate money. You see it in rap videos all the time. It's a pretty clear indication that the "booty" he's referring to is monetary in nature. If anything, it's evidence against the claim that there's deliberate sexual imagery in the video.

supertzar
14-01-2009, 08:50 PM
That's the overt meaning. I guess you are experiencing denial bias because you can't acknowledge that there are often two meanings to things and that hidden meanings are used to convey messages to the subconscious. I mean you won't even broach the subject when I ask you outright. Besides, the snippet of the show I am speaking of includes the immediate cut to the girl's open-mouthed expression of excitement upon hearing the words. Do I know for a fact that it is a subliminal cue? No. Does it seem like it probably is one? In my opinion, yes.

halleyscomet
14-01-2009, 09:35 PM
That's the overt meaning. I guess you are experiencing denial bias because you can't acknowledge that there are often two meanings to things and that hidden meanings are used to convey messages to the subconscious. I mean you won't even broach the subject when I ask you outright. Besides, the snippet of the show I am speaking of includes the immediate cut to the girl's open-mouthed expression of excitement upon hearing the words. Do I know for a fact that it is a subliminal cue? No. Does it seem like it probably is one? In my opinion, yes.

I freely admit that there can be two meanings to the same gesture or skit. I bought up the Muppet Show earlier in this thread as a humorous example illustrating this point.

We're both watching the same video. You claim to see something sexual in a child opening their mouth at the mention of pirate treasure. I don't see it. I think you're seeing what you want to see and anyone who doesn't see the same thing is going to be dismissed as being in denial. You have an unhealthy obsession, a need to see things of a sinister nature everywhere you look. I would suggest you speak to your therapist about this paranoia streak.

supertzar
14-01-2009, 09:56 PM
I think you're seeing what you want to see and anyone who doesn't see the same thing is going to be dismissed as being in denial. You have an unhealthy obsession, a need to see things of a sinister nature everywhere you look. I would suggest you speak to your therapist about this paranoia streak.

I am only turning the tables on you, reflecting what you and others have already said to illustrate a point.

You claim to see something sexual in a child opening their mouth at the mention of pirate treasure.

I claim it is quite likely that the juxtaposition of the shouted phrase PRECIOUS BOOTY!!! and the cut to the girl giving that particular expression is a subliminal cue.

I freely admit that there can be two meanings to the same gesture or skit. I bought up the Muppet Show earlier in this thread as a humorous example illustrating this point.


That not the same as the subliminal cues I am speaking of. The child and grownup humor are both overt. Whatever. I need to get back to work so I can get my hands on some precious booty.

marc_o
14-01-2009, 10:07 PM
http://stephanieisportacus.blox.pl/resource/JuliannaRoseMaurielloAKAStephaniefr.jpg

What do you all make to this promotional picture of the girl? now i agree with others that the video clips are what you make of them, I didnt see anything sexual in them at all. This photo however exhibits all the traits of a sexual pose, highlighting the womanly features of the girls body. This is clearly a bit weird and wrong.

It was mentioned before that the lazy town website has to be constantly monitered to prevent perverted comments being left on there.

I cant help but think, if the show is popular with pedophiles that the creators of the show do pander to them. Perhaps only for the simple reason that they will get higher ratings.

Whats everyone think?

supertzar
14-01-2009, 10:13 PM
That's photoshopped, I'm pretty sure.

krakhead
14-01-2009, 10:17 PM
Marc_O - where did that picture come from? Was the official site? Because, to me, it looks photoshopped. The head appears slightly too large, and I can see 'fringing' around her hair, particularly on the right hand side, which doesn't appear elsewhere on the picture. On the left side of her hair, the bottom of it looks too neat as well, another point which makes me suspect the origins of this photo.

I would therefore claim that this photo was fake.

comawhite015
14-01-2009, 10:18 PM
hahahahh that shit is SO photoshopped. What are you fucking blind?

Look at the size of the hands before you start spraying paranoid arse-gravy everywhere. Myyyy god, man!

krakhead
14-01-2009, 10:20 PM
hahahahh that shit is SO photoshopped. What are you fucking blind?

Look at the size of the hands before you start spraying paranoid arse-gravy everywhere. Myyyy god, man!

Well I think myself and supertzar put our points across more politely, but that's the sort of thing I was thinking! :D

comawhite015
14-01-2009, 10:29 PM
Well I think myself and supertzar put our points across more politely, but that's the sort of thing I was thinking! :D

I say it how I feels it ;)

karol2020
15-01-2009, 12:53 AM
That depends on if you are being pedantic or not. If you think being interested in young children sexually is comparable to being interested in the agenda then have at it.

we are discussing here subliminal sexual messages that may be part of the agenda, so yes is comparable. I think we at this site are open to these kind of subject, at least we should be, if we are wanting to discover the truth about this all......

karol2020
15-01-2009, 01:02 AM
Karol and comet, what is your opinion on my most recent post? I keep seeing people talking about the overt message of living an active life, but what about the subtle juxtaposition of phrases and body language and things like that? Do you realize that ad agencies and shows employ psychologists to create subliminal cues and that this has been going on for a long time? I suppose the techniques have been developed to the point where they are both highly effective and easy to be glossed over by the conscious mind.


yes, you are right about the "ad agencies and shows employ psychologists to create subliminal cues and that this has been going on for a long time" and I have seen some movies- many of them destiny for childs, DISNEY comes t my mind- that have this, but here, sincerely, and I heve seen this part you say at :33 three times, but I haven´t seen any sexual subliminal there.... sorry, but I really think we have to be carefull to not became a paranoid, specially in these subliminal subject..... About the message of living an active life that you say, I believe is a goal of the show, and truly- I don´t know about the show- but I find these music clips very cool and entertening for the young :)

supertzar
15-01-2009, 05:34 AM
Okay, I am paranoid. There's nothing to it.

halleyscomet
15-01-2009, 03:38 PM
I think our perception of this program is shaded by some of the imagery and edited clips people have circulated involving this child. If you spend any time on 4chan you can't go five pages without some moron posting an animated GIF carefully crafted to make it look like something is going on that's very different from the original program. This primes our minds to be on the lookout for deviant patterns.

Most of us are, I assume, healthy adults with healthy interests. This means we're going to have a parental instinct to protect not just our own children, but any other children exposed to potentially harmful programming, including the child on the show. After reading how pedophiles view this program it's natural for our protective instincts to take over and be on the watch for harmful influences in the show.

The final question is "what influence will this show have on kids"? So far the evidence I've seen indicates the program itself has a largely beneficial impact. The music is not so grating as to make parents run from the room screaming (I'm looking at you Barny you purple bastard) yet holds a child's interests and teaches them positive lessons about living a healthy lifestyle.

I would also recommend using the Muppet Show as a baseline for comparison. The show had a LOT of material that went right over the heads of the kids watching and kept the adults entertained. Is The Muppet Show a deviant program because of this? I think not.

supertzar
15-01-2009, 06:02 PM
I think our perception of this program is shaded by some of the imagery and edited clips people have circulated involving this child. If you spend any time on 4chan you can't go five pages without some moron posting an animated GIF carefully crafted to make it look like something is going on that's very different from the original program. This primes our minds to be on the lookout for deviant patterns.

Maybe your perception is shaded. Mine isn't. I had never heard of the show until I watched the clips in the original post.

Most of us are, I assume, healthy adults with healthy interests. This means we're going to have a parental instinct to protect not just our own children, but any other children exposed to potentially harmful programming, including the child on the show. After reading how pedophiles view this program it's natural for our protective instincts to take over and be on the watch for harmful influences in the show.

Again I didn't know about that so my instincts didn't take over as you say.

The final question is "what influence will this show have on kids"? So far the evidence I've seen indicates the program itself has a largely beneficial impact. The music is not so grating as to make parents run from the room screaming (I'm looking at you Barny you purple bastard) yet holds a child's interests and teaches them positive lessons about living a healthy lifestyle.

I have a hard time believing that any tv show has a largely beneficial impact. I certainly never learned anything of value from all the years I watched. Just play with your kid outside and let them run around with their friends. That's beneficial.

I would also recommend using the Muppet Show as a baseline for comparison. The show had a LOT of material that went right over the heads of the kids watching and kept the adults entertained. Is The Muppet Show a deviant program because of this? I think not.

I don't know what to say about this line of reasoning. The Muppet Show probably didn't have subliminal sexual cues from what I remember of it. That is the issue, not shows like Rocky and Bullwinkle that have both overt children's humor and overt grownup humor. This is a very poorly thought out part of your opinion in my opinion.

halleyscomet
15-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Okay, I am paranoid. There's nothing to it.

The have medication for that you know.

supertzar
15-01-2009, 06:12 PM
Thanks. That really stimulates the debate.

halleyscomet
15-01-2009, 06:26 PM
Thanks. That really stimulates the debate.

Sorry, I was trying to use some humor to lighten the mood. Clearly this was an epic communication fail on my part.

comawhite015
15-01-2009, 07:38 PM
What debate?

'This makes pedos randy.'
'Only if you're a pedo.'
'NO U'
'NO U LOL'

That's it.

supertzar
15-01-2009, 07:49 PM
I thought it was about whether the show had subliminal cues to shape children's thinking about sex. I, for one, am not suggesting that the target audience is pedophiles.

comawhite015
15-01-2009, 07:53 PM
K.

'This show makes kids think about sex.'
'No, it makes them think about balanced eating and excersise.
'SEX'
'FOOD AND PLAYING'.

There. Fixed. No one is making *any* progress here.

supertzar
15-01-2009, 07:59 PM
At least I am giving specific examples and arguments that make sense. Okay, back to the grindstone now. Gotta get my hands on some more of that precious booty.

comawhite015
15-01-2009, 08:33 PM
At least I am giving specific examples and arguments that make sense. Okay, back to the grindstone now. Gotta get my hands on some more of that precious booty.

I'm just boiling these posts down, man. It's all incredibly repetitive if you do that.

halleyscomet
15-01-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm just boiling these posts down, man. It's all incredibly repetitive if you do that.

"Like a record player, round round, right round."

noobcybot
15-01-2009, 08:50 PM
So change it up then coma white, if you arent interested in a thread then dont be involved in it or at least ad something constructive.

comawhite015
15-01-2009, 08:53 PM
I'm saying that this thread means 2 things.

To kids, it's completely innocent and shows them how to eat well and take excersise.

To paranoid adults,

'ZOMG IT IS PLANTING SEXUAL THOUGHTS IN OUR KIDS HEADS'

It's fucking stupid..

There's my constructive input.

halleyscomet
15-01-2009, 08:56 PM
I'm saying that this thread means 2 things.

To kids, it's completely innocent and shows them how to eat well and take excersise.

To paranoid adults,

'ZOMG IT IS PLANTING SEXUAL THOUGHTS IN OUR KIDS HEADS'

It's fucking stupid..

There's my constructive input.

Well in my opinion you just won the thread.

deathcultreject
15-01-2009, 10:23 PM
That picture's just sooo wrong :(

It's even more disturbing than it would be with the superimposed head of Bruce Forsyth.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pkOMUE5Ji1M&feature=related

supertzar
15-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Well, kindly fuck off then, comawhite.

comawhite015
15-01-2009, 11:10 PM
Well, kindly fuck off then, comawhite.

*snigger*

Aren't we a ray of fucking sunshine.

supertzar
15-01-2009, 11:13 PM
I get a little tired of being called paranoid that's all.

comawhite015
15-01-2009, 11:16 PM
I get a little tired of being called paranoid that's all.

So stop reading sexual indoctrination into a fucking children's TV show and you won't be called paranoid.

I'm going to go watch Fraggle Rock now. Hopefully it won't turn me into a rapist.

halleyscomet
15-01-2009, 11:25 PM
I get a little tired of being called paranoid that's all.

Nice pair of shoes you got there. They fit you PERFECTLY.

And no, for the record we are NOT sending private messages about you behind your back. Nope, not at all.

supertzar
15-01-2009, 11:27 PM
Okay, dipshit.

deathcultreject
15-01-2009, 11:49 PM
I thought it was about whether the show had subliminal cues to shape children's thinking about sex. I, for one, am not suggesting that the target audience is pedophiles.

Mate, when I was a kid we all used to watch things like Greece which has a lot of genuine references to sex in it.

It was water off a duck's back, because we weren't interested in that side of it, so we filtered it out.

Children aren't interested in sex, they think it's just boring grown up stuff.

Coersion and forcing causes damage. Dancing to songs about pirate's probably doesn't.

deathcultreject
15-01-2009, 11:56 PM
So stop reading sexual indoctrination into a fucking children's TV show and you won't be called paranoid.

I'm going to go watch Fraggle Rock now. Hopefully it won't turn me into a rapist.

Get thee to a monastery! I'll certainly lock up my women folk if you're going to watch THAT!!! :eek:

Don't you know that every drug problem in the world can be blamed on 'the magic roundabout?'

Now, where's my shotgun to stand guard on that cellar ?

supertzar
15-01-2009, 11:57 PM
Mate, when I was a kid we all used to watch things like Greece which has a lot of genuine references to sex in it.

It was water off a duck's back, because we weren't interested in that side of it, so we filtered it out.

Children aren't interested in sex, they think it's just boring grown up stuff.

Coersion and forcing causes damage. Dancing to songs about pirate's probably doesn't.

Grease, you mean? I don't know about you, but I was always interested in sexy females. I was horny for Olivia Newton John in those tight pants when I was seven. We used to fight over who got which model as their girlfriend: Farrah Fawcet, Cheryl Teegs, Bo Derek, Raquel Welch.

It's a different kind of damage that subliminal sex programming does. Look at the programming icons like Britney and Xtina and all those schoolgirls gone bad types. Does it scar a child for life to be into that shit? Probably not exactly, but it sets up a cultural pathway that is damaging overall.

deathcultreject
16-01-2009, 12:01 AM
I get a little tired of being called paranoid that's all.

I don't mean to disrespect you (not much anyway) but with all the evil going on in the world, what the hell made you point the finger at lazy town?

Evil tends to spread from . . . evil.

Tacky as they are, day glo clown costumes or whatever they're wearing don't count.

supertzar
16-01-2009, 12:07 AM
I see you have not heard of Der Fuzzy Bunny. He has a sidekick named Klaus and is always scheming to take over the world and make everything cute and fuzzy.

http://www.thegepettofiles.com/images/characters/9_Bunny_Klaus.jpg

Fuzzy Bunny and Klaus

http://www.thegepettofiles.com/images/characters/10_Stooge.jpg

One of Fuzzy Bunny's Stooges

comawhite015
16-01-2009, 12:09 AM
Mate, when I was a kid we all used to watch things like Greece which has a lot of genuine references to sex in it.

It was water off a duck's back, because we weren't interested in that side of it, so we filtered it out.

Children aren't interested in sex, they think it's just boring grown up stuff.

Coersion and forcing causes damage. Dancing to songs about pirate's probably doesn't.

Hell yes. When I was six, 'Weird Science' was my favourite movie.

And Grace Jones was my favourite musician.

Could you get more sex into a six year old brain?

No. To me, it was a funny movie, and Grace was interesting and had fun music to dance to.


Now, watching that movie, it's INCREDIBLY filthy, and one of the songs I used to dance to when I was six in front of the telly was code about doggy style sex.


Who knew!

Kids *don't* *care*.

Get thee to a monastery! I'll certainly lock up my women folk if you're going to watch THAT!!! :eek:

Don't you know that every drug problem in the world can be blamed on 'the magic roundabout?'

Now, where's my shotgun to stand guard on that cellar ?


Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

I need to go find a priest to whip me some.

That'll be why I made a bong out of springs and look at my dog in a sexual manner.

deathcultreject
16-01-2009, 12:10 AM
Grease, you mean? I don't know about you, but I was always interested in sexy females. I was horny for Olivia Newton John in those tight pants when I was seven. We used to fight over who got which model as their girlfriend: Farrah Fawcet, Cheryl Teegs, Bo Derek, Raquel Welch.

It's a different kind of damage that subliminal sex programming does. Look at the programming icons like Britney and Xtina and all those schoolgirls gone bad types. Does it scar a child for life to be into that shit? Probably not exactly, but it sets up a cultural pathway that is damaging overall.

So you're saying that there are more of those kind of drops in the ocean than there should be?

Kids might try to be 'cool' by doing things that they're too young for?

The thing is, that happens as soon as kids reach the age where they idolise everyone in their mid to late teens.

There always was a st trinnions or whatever, or some kind of smut themed around schoolgirls at 'the age where nothing fits'

Overall, I don't think it makes much difference when the subconscious mind is such a big wild overgrown jungle.

strt
16-01-2009, 12:14 AM
Please keep conversation polite. When you start with insults, people do think that you don't have any arguments. Thanks.

supertzar
16-01-2009, 12:17 AM
In my opinion it is extremely naive to discount the likelyhood of subliminal programming designed to exploit and or train the subconscious mind of children. I am surprised so many here seem to not even understand the concept of subliminal cues, confusing it with overt sexuality in shows.

supertzar
16-01-2009, 12:25 AM
So you're saying that there are more of those kind of drops in the ocean than there should be?

Kids might try to be 'cool' by doing things that they're too young for?

I don't know what you are saying here. Drops in the ocean? Trying to be cool? No. Not really.

The thing is, that happens as soon as kids reach the age where they idolise everyone in their mid to late teens.

There always was a st trinnions or whatever, or some kind of smut themed around schoolgirls at 'the age where nothing fits'

Overall, I don't think it makes much difference when the subconscious mind is such a big wild overgrown jungle.

I didn't have my personal sexual feelings when I was a little boy because I idolised anyone, but it is quite possible my natural feelings were directed in a certain way by shows I watched.

deathcultreject
16-01-2009, 12:26 AM
In my opinion it is extremely naive to discount the likelyhood of subliminal programming designed to exploit and or train the subconscious mind of children. I am surprised so many here seem to not even understand the concept of subliminal cues, confusing it with overt sexuality in shows.

So erm, if they are effective subliminals, they will result in a fetish when sexuality develops, right?

erm . . . *looks shifty* . . .

Mickey mouse bagpus fraggle rock donald duck teletubbies bugs bunny.

Any takers?

Anyone? erm . . . have me I'm a love albatros . . .

no?


Edited to apologise for that.

I take the piss too much.

noobcybot
16-01-2009, 12:26 AM
we are discussing here subliminal sexual messages that may be part of the agenda, so yes is comparable. I think we at this site are open to these kind of subject, at least we should be, if we are wanting to discover the truth about this all......

...............Comparable? Really!

deathcultreject
16-01-2009, 12:35 AM
I didn't have my personal sexual feelings when I was a little boy because I idolised anyone, but it is quite possible my natural feelings were directed in a certain way by shows I watched.

OK fair enough.

We're evolved for living in hunter gatherer tribes, so we're bound to go a bit 'cabin fever' if we stay in and watch TV all the time.

What would be a good way for kids to develop naturaly when most people live in a city these days?

reggievandam
16-01-2009, 07:26 AM
It's only perverted if a buncha pervs in our dumbed-down anything goes society lets it be that way!

Anyway, I personally LIKE Lazy Town! Here's some funny vids from teh tube...

Enjoy!:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE6APA-ptnM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP7tRLK9W9Q

:eek: EDIT: Although, looking at the default preview pic for the second vid...It looks like Stephanie is doing something VERY innapropriate! LOL! :D

EDIT 2: UHHHHHHHH.....ALSO, I just noticed, after watching the second vid that Stephanie has REPTILLIAN FREAKING EYES @ 0:24!!! FREAKY!!!
:eek:

time2wakeup
16-01-2009, 12:27 PM
The overwhelming consensus is that Lazy Town is just a young girl doing some harmless dancing and singing with the only sexual overtones coming from it, are the adult generation that may be imagining or wishing to see that situation in the program.
I do not share this herds mentaility view on the program. There has been more than enough evidence to suggest that there may be a more sinister side to lazy time, e.g. precious booty - immediate look to stephanie with her mouth wide open, creaming of the cake, hard on etc..

One more piece of evidence Ive not seen brought up hear is, the photograph (google images lazy town 2nd page - call the cops). I dont need to describe it here,what is this about? Is it fake?
I personally wouldnt encourage my children to watch programs that promoted this type of behaviour.
Bringing up these issues whilst not encuring the herds view (including posters on this thread) that you must be a hidden pedo, is difficult and well done to those posters who have brought up the evidence and made it available so this thread has been an interested read and discussion.

mountainwarrior
03-10-2009, 11:02 AM
too many totally clueless people on this thread

i suggest to you lot to go get your swine flu shot, a 6 pack of bud, a pizza and tune out to your tv's like zombies for the precious little time left until you're totally enslaved and or killed off.

not long now anywho, so just go sit yer kids in front of hairy potter and lazy town, watch footy footy football with the family while timmy and tommy play ultra violent shoot em ups in the next room

slaves

disorder2k8
03-10-2009, 11:08 AM
what bothers me is the OP still watches television :eek: why man, why!?

marpat
03-10-2009, 11:23 AM
too many totally clueless people on this thread

i suggest to you lot to go get your swine flu shot, a 6 pack of bud, a pizza and tune out to your tv's like zombies for the precious little time left until you're totally enslaved and or killed off.

not long now anywho, so just go sit yer kids in front of hairy potter and lazy town, watch footy footy football with the family while timmy and tommy play ultra violent shoot em ups in the next room

slaves

So what do you do in your spare time and for entertainment?

xpleet
03-10-2009, 04:14 PM
too many totally clueless people on this thread

i suggest to you lot to go get your swine flu shot, a 6 pack of bud, a pizza and tune out to your tv's like zombies for the precious little time left until you're totally enslaved and or killed off.

not long now anywho, so just go sit yer kids in front of hairy potter and lazy town, watch footy footy football with the family while timmy and tommy play ultra violent shoot em ups in the next room

slaves

Well, let me tell you something. I'm tired of being upset about them, I really am and I think you should be, aswell.
But instead of draining myself over the sight of their ignorance, arrogance and stupidity, I simply take notice of them and then just let it go without giving them any stimulation, sometimes I just laugh about the amount of ludicrousness in their minds.
It's enough for the cosmos that with their spam they're wasting their own time, unnecessary for me or you to do the same as a result.

Our world is grossly deluded and that doesn't end with the DI-forums. Let's not pretend that most people in the David Icke forums today are any less deluded and programmed (especially sexually as you can see) than the average guy you would find in society.
The level of awareness in the DI-forums, to my notice, sharply sank in the last year or so. I am definatly no longer planning to create threads like this and expect the response to any different than what I would be getting on the streets of NY.

mountainwarrior
04-10-2009, 06:06 AM
"Our world is grossly deluded and that doesn't end with the DI-forums. Let's not pretend that most people in the David Icke forums today are any less deluded and programmed (especially sexually as you can see) than the average guy you would find in society.
The level of awareness in the DI-forums, to my notice, sharply sank in the last year or so. I am definatly no longer planning to create threads like this and expect the response to any different than what I would be getting on the streets of NY."

it's sad really. people on these forums are suppose to be more consciously aware of whats going on then the average person but many of them are so very programmed on some levels. just tell them the truth about their precious tv, video games and movies and they'll roll out the guillotines and scream bloody murder. sure they are aware on some levels to whats taking place, then the next second they submit themselves and their children to vicious high tech mkultra evolved mind control and programming like mindless robotic lemmings. yes i agree it seems to be a waste of time and energy to share information with the so called 'truth seekers' on this forum or pretty much any other forum on the internet in these perilous days.

for the lazy(minded)town fans

http://www.aeropause.com/2009/04/new-lazy-town-game-announced/

unusual_suspect
04-10-2009, 01:48 PM
Idk, I think the man in that program is totally camp. This seems to be the case on kids TV, I think this is because camp = non treatening.

vienna
09-10-2009, 12:46 PM
come on guys are you serious with this! it's no more about peadophilia than bill and ben was about pagan sun worship

if you look ahard enough you can make any old sh*t up, its the nature of symbology

noewhan
09-10-2009, 03:21 PM
come on guys are you serious with this! it's no more about peadophilia than bill and ben was about pagan sun worship

if you look ahard enough you can make any old sh*t up, its the nature of symbology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHSYGPJcza8

Have you watched an episode of it? It's disturbing.

Betty boop was too, back in the day. But that's a cartoon.

MK Ultra probably uses LazyTown.

Julianna Rose Mauriello (born May 26, 1991 in Irvington, New York) is an American actress. She starred in LazyTown, and has appeared in various Broadway musicals. Mauriello has performed in a series of shows, including Gypsy: A Musical Fable, starring alongside Bernadette Peters, and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. Her first appearance on Broadway was during the 2002–2003 run of Oklahoma!

She played the character of Stephanie on LazyTown, filmed in Iceland. Her performances in the program earned her a nomination for a 2006 Daytime Emmy Award for "Outstanding Performer in a Children's Series."

Mauriello is an honor student at the Professional Performing Arts School. She has appeared in commercials and voiceovers, and is an avid dancer, taking classes in ballet, jazz, tap and Irish stepdancing. She has also been involved in gymnastics. Mauriello is able to speak Icelandic, from her time spent in Iceland on the set of LazyTown.

In 2006, Mauriello appeared, as herself, in the direct-to-video film Hip Hop Homeroom: Hip Hop Kids Math. She was cast as the leading role of Pyper in the short film A Fix.

Mauriello resides in New York City.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071228132434/http://www.nicksplat.com/Whatsup/200603/20000156.html


1. How old are you? You surely must be older than the 8-year-old character you play on the show? Do you have any difficulties playing a 8 year old?
I am 14, and turning 15 on May 26th. Sometimes it is difficult being a teenager and playing a child, but I try to bring parts of my childhood to the character.

So it seems like the producers want her to stay young as possible. In a way, they could be 'de-humanising' her to a cartoon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julianna_Rose_Mauriello

http://lazytown2009en.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/julianna-rose-mauriello.jpg
http://www.enjoyfrance.com/images/stories/world/celebrities/Daniel-Radcliffe-harry-potter-premiere.jpg

Is it just me or do I see similarities?

So who are the producers of LazyTown?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZYt1i59ikAk/SdLtBbEjG8I/AAAAAAAAAhA/SlVA6vMA-Rw/s400/nicklogo.png
Splat!

http://www.toplessrobot.com/OSN-logo-old-school-nickelodeon-801791_200_200.jpg
Spyblimp anyone?

http://sydney.diarystar.com.au/images/nickelodeon-awards-2007.jpg
Mixing the Veronicas with children... Even teens, in my view is not fantastic. They look like 'joker' ladies.

http://www.lelandswallpaper.com/images/nickelodeon.jpg
Kids version of a sun symbol?


Hmm.

se19_london
09-10-2009, 03:39 PM
Have a look at these.

These are supposedly for 9 year olds, yet I couldn't imagine that 9 year olds would be mainly the ones watching this especially since this aired on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CHAZJr3OE
(if i remember correctly in this vid in one scene she shoves!? up the wall and it gives the (also facial)impression that she has an orgasm)
(edit: video comments point out that the guy on the right at 2:23 has an erection)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azqXygCzO8
(watch for when she presses the 'tube')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI&feature=related
(It takes her a little long to climb aboard doesn't it? This of course asks the viewer to focus on her arse)

Every articulation she makes is clearly sexual, and she is dressed and made up as if she was screaming "ABUSE ME!" and the same goes for the female-vocalism that underwrites her playback.

This is disgusting, it's clearly aiming to transform the peoples' minds into will-less, sexhungry reptiles.

I can only imagine what kind of pitiful state of mind that must be and more and more people are entering it thanks to our sex-media.


Sorry - but i percieve YOU to be the twisted one in all of this....how on earth did you come to the conclusion that no kids watch lazytown....why would it cater for paedofiles - im sure that the amount generated from commercial sales (toys/books/bags etc) would highlight that children are indeed viewers.

Before you slander my name, I have a 4 year old son, and a 2 year old stepson who both watch Lazytown - does this make me a bad parent?

noewhan
09-10-2009, 03:56 PM
Sorry - but i percieve YOU to be the twisted one in all of this....how on earth did you come to the conclusion that no kids watch lazytown....why would it cater for paedofiles - im sure that the amount generated from commercial sales (toys/books/bags etc) would highlight that children are indeed viewers.

Before you slander my name, I have a 4 year old son, and a 2 year old stepson who both watch Lazytown - does this make me a bad parent?

No. I don't think anyone here will blame you for what's on TV.

Who would have thought, 2 boys watching Lazytown - and enjoying it. :rolleyes:

vetis
09-10-2009, 09:57 PM
I think if anyone notices how long a young girl takes to get on a boat and how in focus her arse is then they have severe problems and should get help.

The fact that you notice these things should be a worry.

unusual_suspect
09-10-2009, 09:59 PM
I think if anyone notices how long a young girl takes to get on a boat and how in focus her arse is then they have severe problems and should get help.

The fact that you notice these things should be a worry.

I totally agree, I get a little bit worried about people who see pedophillia everywhere.

psychicdave1
09-10-2009, 11:21 PM
This is a ridiculous thread and anyone who thinks it promotes child abuse must be sick and twisted to begin with.!!!!

clive w
12-10-2009, 10:52 AM
It thought this is the fucking David Icke forum... why people are so blind over here?

It´s total pedophilia mindfuck, mates...

Holy shit.

morjo
12-10-2009, 11:35 AM
Geese guys chill out no need to hail that kind of unneeded abuse at the OP just because you don't agree.

I could only see very slight issues with the first video, but that's because I was on the look out. The other videos seemed fine to me.

The show looks crap anyway.

bobbydiva
12-10-2009, 03:03 PM
I dunno but the show is freaking strange anyway. I think it's an Icelandic import. The guy is kind of creepy.

mountainwarrior
14-10-2009, 12:20 AM
"Before you slander my name, I have a 4 year old son, and a 2 year old stepson who both watch Lazytown - does this make me a bad parent"

Yes it does.

Any other questions?

mountainwarrior
14-10-2009, 12:23 AM
Julianna Rose Mauriello (born May 26, 1991 in Irvington, New York) is an American actress. She starred in LazyTown, and has appeared in various Broadway musicals. Mauriello has performed in a series of shows, including Gypsy: A Musical Fable, starring alongside Bernadette Peters, and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. Her first appearance on Broadway was during the 2002–2003 run of Oklahoma!

She played the character of Stephanie on LazyTown, filmed in Iceland. Her performances in the program earned her a nomination for a 2006 Daytime Emmy Award for "Outstanding Performer in a Children's Series."

Mauriello is an honor student at the Professional Performing Arts School. She has appeared in commercials and voiceovers, and is an avid dancer, taking classes in ballet, jazz, tap and Irish stepdancing. She has also been involved in gymnastics. Mauriello is able to speak Icelandic, from her time spent in Iceland on the set of LazyTown.

In 2006, Mauriello appeared, as herself, in the direct-to-video film Hip Hop Homeroom: Hip Hop Kids Math. She was cast as the leading role of Pyper in the short film A Fix."

cradle to grave under mind control.

poor gal never had a chance.

alexc
19-10-2009, 09:45 PM
"Before you slander my name, I have a 4 year old son, and a 2 year old stepson who both watch Lazytown - does this make me a bad parent"

Yes it does.

Any other questions?

Now now, you need to soften the blow of bad news like that if you expect people to take the news seriously!

se19_london
20-10-2009, 03:41 PM
"Before you slander my name, I have a 4 year old son, and a 2 year old stepson who both watch Lazytown - does this make me a bad parent"

Yes it does.

Any other questions?

Well - to be perfectly frank with you kind sir,

I am slightly more worried about the fact that you look into childrens programmes and associate them with sexual innuendo.....

Personally, I have gone and sat through an episode of LazyTown and NOT ONCE in that particular episode did i find anything a) sexually explicit b) anything derogitory to ANYONE - if anything i associate it with the fact that children are being encouraged to get off their arses and do things (sportacus - being the active good guy - Robbie Rotten being his lazy nemesis) and the building of tolerance/friendships for new arrivals in town (the little girl)

Only someone with a pretty warped mind would look at fireman sam/thomas the tank engine or indeed lazy town as being some depraved sexual brainwashing programme - and my money would be on you falling into that category before me sunshine!!

jonny78
21-10-2009, 10:27 AM
I watched the vids and saw nothing unusual or out of the ordinary.

As for the show "catering" to pedos, well it probably does. And by that I mean pedos will be drawn to it simply by their nature. It's not the show's intention to draw them in as viewers, but it can't be helped. These are people who pop a boner just walking past a school playground for Chrissakes.

And this is all coming from a guy who understands the cause for concern and believes in subliminal messages. I just think some folks are overreacting to this Lazy Land thing and they should be careful for their own sake, otherwise they're in danger of sucking the fun right out of life.

Who wants to live in a plastic bubble, shielded from everything, and afraid of your own shadow? Screw that, I say.

noewhan
21-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Hmm.

So when people start seeing problems in TV, they somehow become the problem? Just because people see a hint of paedophilia, it does not mean they are lunatics with fantasies for little kids.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071228132434/http://www.nicksplat.com/Whatsup/200603/20000156.html

1. How old are you? You surely must be older than the 8-year-old character you play on the show? Do you have any difficulties playing a 8 year old?
I am 14, and turning 15 on May 26th. Sometimes it is difficult being a teenager and playing a child, but I try to bring parts of my childhood to the character.

Don't worry Mods, I won't post what I posted before. Calm down.

But try this... Go to facebook and search for 'Magnus Scheving'. He plays 'Sportacus' (Spartacus) & is the creator of LazyTown. Scroll down to Links & see the only link there.

Wtf?

Maybe its a fake facebook listing.

mountainwarrior
22-10-2009, 02:22 AM
Personally, I have gone and sat through an episode of LazyTown and NOT ONCE in that particular episode did i find anything a) sexually explicit b) anything derogitory to ANYONE - if anything i associate it with the fact that children are being encouraged to get off their arses and do things (sportacus - being the active good guy - Robbie Rotten being his lazy nemesis) and the building of tolerance/friendships for new arrivals in town (the little girl)"

did u see the pic i posted of the lazytown girl.

she is clearly sexualized in the picture.

your delusional if you think otherwise.

i think u tv watchers have zero comprehension of mind control and how advanced it is. i think you have zero comprehension of whats really happening on this planet.

i think you need to wake the f up.

turn yer tv off bro.

mountainwarrior
22-10-2009, 02:24 AM
Don't worry Mods, I won't post what I posted before. Calm down.

But try this... Go to facebook and search for 'Magnus Scheving'. He plays 'Sportacus' (Spartacus) & is the creator of LazyTown. Scroll down to Links & see the only link there.

Wtf?

Maybe its a fake facebook listing."

im not sure what you're implying and i won't be going to facebook, but im sure that guy is leading a double life, if you know what i mean.

iceland would make a great place for mind control and programming, very isolated and desolate, away from public attention. good place for experimentation and programming.

mountainwarrior
22-10-2009, 02:26 AM
"Personally, I have gone and sat through an episode of LazyTown"

im sure you have sat through more then one episode.

yeah
22-10-2009, 02:36 AM
Sporticus is a bit yumme

se19_london
22-10-2009, 10:57 AM
"Personally, I have gone and sat through an episode of LazyTown"

im sure you have sat through more then one episode.

fella - im not being funny but lets be real....you look at kids programmes and identify them with nonce activity....I dont....go figure......

alexc
27-10-2009, 04:21 PM
But try this... Go to facebook and search for 'Magnus Scheving'. He plays 'Sportacus' (Spartacus) & is the creator of LazyTown. Scroll down to Links & see the only link there.

Wtf?

For the record everyone, the link goes to this youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmEWZh-HWJc

mrunhappy
18-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Have a look at these.

These are supposedly for 9 year olds, yet I couldn't imagine that 9 year olds would be mainly the ones watching this especially since this aired on TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CHAZJr3OE
(if i remember correctly in this vid in one scene she shoves!? up the wall and it gives the (also facial)impression that she has an orgasm)
(edit: video comments point out that the guy on the right at 2:23 has an erection)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-azqXygCzO8
(watch for when she presses the 'tube')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI&feature=related
(It takes her a little long to climb aboard doesn't it? This of course asks the viewer to focus on her arse)

Every articulation she makes is clearly sexual, and she is dressed and made up as if she was screaming "ABUSE ME!" and the same goes for the female-vocalism that underwrites her playback.

This is disgusting, it's clearly aiming to transform the peoples' minds into will-less, sexhungry reptiles.

I can only imagine what kind of pitiful state of mind that must be and more and more people are entering it thanks to our sex-media.

Sheeesh! You are seeing things that just aren't there! I looked for an orgasm, erection, and prolonged view of the girl's arse (oo er), and I saw none of these things...

You know, back in my day, and waaaaaaay before.. we had St Trinian films where school girls got screwed by teachers.

dopamine
18-04-2011, 05:27 PM
Have a look at these.

These are supposedly for 9 year olds, yet I couldn't imagine that 9 year olds would be mainly the ones watching this especially since this aired on TV.

I can only imagine what kind of pitiful state of mind that must be and more and more people are entering it thanks to our sex-media.

If you still watch movies and series for children than you are not very different than a pedophile, so why you talk so loud against pedophiles, while you watch things that are just for children? Most guys that are pedophile, talk loud against pedophiles, so they don´t need to feel bad about their own pedophile intentions.

Girls are more complicated at age 16 and they get even more complicated and difficult at age 18 and with every year girls get more difficult to understand for most guys, so guys look for younger girls, because younger girls are not very complicated and simple. Guys just understand girls when they are on the level of a child. This is poor, but absolutly true and the reason why pedophiles get more and more in our society.

You will see this psychological fact in all sections of human behaviour. If you are silent against pedophiles than you should keep your thoughts for yourself, but the ones who really scream and get angry while they create a big show of their hate against pedophiles - are not very different than the ones they try to hate.

Actually they just need something so they can project their hate into, but actually they hate their own sexual orientation. Why should I watch series and movies that are for children and than complain about pedophiles? Do you get my point how abnormal you are? When I enjoy children, than something is wrong.

When I feel happy that children are fine and laughing than its ok, or when I laugh with children and make some fun with them, you have to be nice with children, but not sexual and when I would enjoy children so much that it starts to get a passion, it is already a form of pedophilia and when you watch shows, movies and series for children, than something is not right with you.

So stop complaining about pedophiles, start with yourself and get your ass to the psychologist and stop watching things that are just for children. Why people are so sexual suddenly? Since we have internet people are totally overstimulated with sexual feelings or sexual interest. Maybe because its very hard to find a friendly and attractive girl at age 18+ these days, so guys start watching children shows to see some children because a female child most guys understand better than a girl at age 18+.

merlincove
18-04-2011, 05:43 PM
i don't think it is so much the desire for children that is being highlighted, but more-over the 'recognition' that there is a definitive force that pushes the media to sexualise children going on.

You only have to look at the Cyrus kids to see that, as well as celebs like Katie Holmes who dress their children as adults, despite their tender age.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=163988

http://forum.davidicke.com/search.php?searchid=4213297

Being aware of that drive within the media does not reflect that illness in the observer, but highlights something that is extremely prevalent within the media's and celebrity arena's to create a sexual facade around children.

Define the Sin, and you can unmask the sinner.

lordzoma
19-04-2011, 03:00 AM
Equating watching children's programming with pedophilia is retarded.

disorder2k8
19-04-2011, 09:47 AM
Bloody hell this post is from 2009, can people please be more observant. Stop necro posting mmkay?

mrunhappy
19-04-2011, 09:52 AM
Is it? I think it is an accurate assesement as to why someone would consider that kiddies program sexual.

It's not exactly diplomatic, but I truly think that someone who sees pedophilia everywhere, is probably one themselves. I mean the OP even made a judgement of the sexyness of the videos.

Sheesh, what you are a qualified psychiatrist?

The OP is wrong for sure, perhaps didn't create the right frame of reference and looked for things that were not there.

It's a tad wrong to call someone you don't know a paedo. He may have just lost his objectivity. He may have just been smoking a bit too much green....

mrunhappy
19-04-2011, 09:52 AM
Bloody hell this post is from 2009, can people please be more observant. Stop necro posting mmkay?

lol

energi
23-04-2011, 12:13 AM
Bloody hell this post is from 2009, can people please be more observant. Stop necro posting mmkay?

BU-bu-but it's fun! And it keeps the forum going!

alexc
29-04-2011, 05:20 PM
If you still watch movies and series for children than you are not very different than a pedophile, so why you talk so loud against pedophiles, while you watch things that are just for children?

Did it ever occur to you that they might be a concerned parent who is monitoring what their child watches?

I don't have any children of my own, but I've seen a lot of childrens' programming. This is because my brother's church has me review content for their kids and because I'm working on a book about the evil influences in entertainment aimed at children. My lack of children is seen as an advantage by those who read my reviews because I don't have a child's love of a particular program clouding my reviews or adding a bias.

You need to know more about WHY a person is watching a show aimed at children before you lob around accusations of pedophilia.