Guys, check out this video by David Rothkopf.

[vladmir]

David Rothkopf is the author of
Superclass: The Global Power Elite and the World They are Making.
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The guy makes some very interesting points.
The 80/20 Rule - YouTube

[boots]

He makes some very good observations the 20/80 rule sure do fit.

and from Stanford university as well :cool:

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[vladmir]

Makes you wonder what else has to say.

[sophia_h]

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Good find vladmir

He has described patriarchy !
We need governing from a CIRCLE not a hierarchy.
Everyone in the circle speaks before the Leader is
chosen to represent the whole. The leader is changed
yearly to prevent nepotism. The Womens and Mens Lodges
keep seperate council then sit together to make the decisions
the Leader must carry out. The Lodges make sure the long
range programs are adhered to.
No 20% ever gets a strangle hold on the whole.


OLD WAYS.

BT/ Before Tyranny





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[vladmir]

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Good find vladmir

Thanks sophia_h, i have since then seen and downloaded another amazing talk that he has given at Middlebury College.
I think you will like it as well.
The Superclass - YouTube

[hordeari]

thanks for vids vladimir, interesting guy.. i have never heard of him before...

update, but he is a kind of mainstream yada yada populistic sphere, new globalelite is also osama bin laden? c'mon ..its a joke i hope

he is smth like chomsky ..just scrathing the surface!

[binkbonk]

I love what this guy has to say. He provides logical and rational explainations for the consolidations of power... It's all natural, the strong and smart will rule the meek, and it is natural for the ones in power to try to maintain their control, by whatever means necessary. They will use conspiracy, war, whatever! And if they are removed (for example, if the Illuminati were all driven from the face of the planet), they will simply be replaced by the next powerful group, or groups....

Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy. When it comes to humans there is one thing is definite... It's called Human Nature.

[hordeari]

so basically you're saying, no matter how hard we fight and try to break this ..we can't change a single shit of it..??

status quo will be maintained.. or smth like that?

so we can all go back to our tv screens shops malls coffee bars tv soaps whatever cause there is no possibility of modifying this reality, and everything is so fucked up in human nature and there is no such thing as illuminati manipulating humans though our 5 senses and controlling our mind with tv and everything else.. thats it?!

i dont think so ...does he say how to change fight this 20% ? or he is just saying stop carrying about all this agenda and go play. i dont like that kind of approach.. we(humans) essentialy are not bad nor evil, and ofcourse there will always be injustice but also there is difference between utopia and this reality, killing 300 children at the moment in gaza :eek: etc.

the guy is discouraging ppl and spreading status quo is the key? 'cause its in our nature that most powerful will alwys lead the governance and others can just buzz-off

[twistedconcept]

I love what this guy has to say. He provides logical and rational explainations for the consolidations of power... It's all natural, the strong and smart will rule the meek, and it is natural for the ones in power to try to maintain their control, by whatever means necessary. They will use conspiracy, war, whatever! And if they are removed (for example, if the Illuminati were all driven from the face of the planet), they will simply be replaced by the next powerful group, or groups....

Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy. When it comes to humans there is one thing is definite... It's called Human Nature.

It's called psychopathy.

[binkbonk]

It's called psychopathy.Yeah, sounds totally insane and irrational.:confused:

[binkbonk]

so basically you're saying, no matter how hard we fight and try to break this ..we can't change a single shit of it..??No, we can change it a little, we can make things a little better, but the huge changes won't happen overnight, it will take millennia upon millennia and a subsequent evolutionary change in our human phsyche, IMO. If the Illuminati were to be dissolved overnight, chaos would reign and the next strongest group would eventually take over.

status quo will be maintained.. or smth like that?Something like that.

so we can all go back to our tv screens shops malls coffee bars tv soaps whatever cause there is no possibility of modifying this reality, Hell no, I can't do that... and there is no such thing as illuminati manipulating humans though our 5 senses and controlling our mind with tv and everything else.. thats it?!No, that's absolutely fact. The Illuminati are doing all of that.

i dont think so ...does he say how to change fight this 20% ? or he is just saying stop carrying about all this agenda and go play.He's probably part of them to some degree... But, I simply think he is making a rational explaination.
i dont like that kind of approach.. we(humans) essentialy are not bad nor evil, I believe we are and ofcourse there will always be injusticeTrue
its in our nature that most powerful will alwys lead the governance and others can just buzz-offJust the facts.

[hordeari]

nice post... I like your answers ;)
its g00d to be rational these days..

and regarding 'most powerful' skill it is actually = the most deceitful, artful, corrupt ones..! after all politcs means many blood sucking creatures :)

[binkbonk]

nice post... I like your answers ;)
its g00d to be rational these days..

and regarding 'most powerful' skill it is actually = the most deceitful, artful, corrupt ones..! after all politcs means many blood sucking creatures :)Very true...

Another very important thing; If you don't "try" you will never succeed. So, inert human nature or not, we've got no chance unless we put our ideals into motion. Sitting around doing nothing will get us just that, nothing.

The thing I like about the OP video is that it just puts things in perspective. Like the old saying goes, "know your enemy".

[twistedconcept]

Yeah, sounds totally insane and irrational.:confused:

I think wanting to kill 90% of the population is insane, but that's just me. I don't get a thrill out of destroying others.

[binkbonk]

I think wanting to kill 90% of the population is insane, but that's just me. I don't get a thrill out of destroying others.WTF are you talking about?:confused: Sounding kind of psychopathic.

[vladmir]

WTF are you talking about?:confused: Sounding kind of psychopathic.
he is referring to the Eugenics agenda that the elite internalist bankster pirates have in store for the rest of the 6 billion of us on Earth, to reduce that number to 500 million.
Check out Alex Jones "Endgame: blueprint for global enslavement" film for details on how this plan is very real, and the elite take it very seriously.

[twistedconcept]

he is referring to the Eugenics agenda that the elite internalist bankster pirates have in store for the rest of the 6 billion of us on Earth, to reduce that number to 500 million.
Check out Alex Jones "Endgame: blueprint for global enslavement" film for details on how this plan is very real, and the elite take it very seriously.


Correct.

[twistedconcept]

I love what this guy has to say. He provides logical and rational explainations for the consolidations of power... It's all natural, the strong and smart will rule the meek, and it is natural for the ones in power to try to maintain their control, by whatever means necessary. They will use conspiracy, war, whatever! And if they are removed (for example, if the Illuminati were all driven from the face of the planet), they will simply be replaced by the next powerful group, or groups....

Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy. When it comes to humans there is one thing is definite... It's called Human Nature.

The elite have destroyed humanity and prevented people from evolving into a greater sense of awareness, which is the greatest crime that can be committed against their own species. By poisoning us to make us more manageable, they're showing how weak they really are. It takes great will to create something and watch it grow; it's much easier to destroy others and take control.

I agree that it's human nature for others to control. If we 'defeated' the New World Order, another group of aristocrats would simply take control again, as humanity becomes complacent.

Immorality and corruption is prevalent in the system we currently live in. In a fair system under benevolent control, war and poverty could become a thing of the past. Of course, we'd have to keep a much closer eye on the governing class.

In their own minds, the elite actually believe that they're benefiting humanity. Unfortunately, they're power mad and they must be destroyed. Cancer has to be killed!

[binkbonk]

The elite have destroyed humanity and prevented people from evolving into a greater sense of awareness, which is the greatest crime that can be committed against their own species. By poisoning us to make us more manageable, they're showing how weak they really are. It takes great will to create something and watch it grow; it's much easier to destroy others and take control.

I agree that it's human nature for others to control. If we 'defeated' the New World Order, another group of aristocrats would simply take control again, as humanity becomes complacent.

Immorality and corruption is prevalent in the system we currently live in. In a fair system under benevolent control, war and poverty could become a thing of the past. Of course, we'd have to keep a much closer eye on the governing class.

In their own minds, the elite actually believe that they're benefiting humanity. Unfortunately, they're power mad and they must be destroyed. Cancer has to be killed!I do agree with you and thank you for expanding on your earlier comments... Like I said, I do agree, it's just that when I listened to Rothkopf's speech, the whole picture just became a little clearer.

I was simply trying to express my broader understanding of our plight. Where as we cannot just simply remove the evils that are in power, we must also strive to improve our humanism as a whole.

[binkbonk]

he is referring to the Eugenics agenda that the elite internalist bankster pirates have in store for the rest of the 6 billion of us on Earth, to reduce that number to 500 million.
Check out Alex Jones "Endgame: blueprint for global enslavement" film for details on how this plan is very real, and the elite take it very seriously.Thanks for the link. I've seen it but I'll try to watch it again!

[vladmir]

Immorality and corruption is prevalent in the system we currently live in. In a fair system under benevolent control, war and poverty could become a thing of the past. Of course, we'd have to keep a much closer eye on the governing class.

yes.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
-Jefferson.