Are Christians mentally ill?

[haukipesukone]

What do you think?

[nessa felagund]

I think a better term would be "indoctrinated" rather than mentally ill. Most religions brainwash their members this way. I'm sure there are some mentally ill Christians, but I think most of them have just been fooled into believing a false doctrine.

[eternal_spirit]

What do you think?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24013&highlight=chritsians+mentally+ill

LOL there's an old thread with the same title.

[runciter]

What do you think?

i think an insidious form mental illness consists in obtaining pleasure, directly or indirectly, from the sufference of other living creatures.. for example, those who're eagerly waiting for death, violence and destruction to happen in this world, those are mentally ill.

[kingmonkey]

What do you think?

No, they're brainwashed like almost everyone else is one way or another and to varying degrees.

[haukipesukone]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24013&highlight=chritsians+mentally+ill

LOL there's an old thread with the same title.

This is just a sarcastic/trollish response to your thread.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25012


I think Xtians, Satanists, atheists... are all mentally ill. Mind is an illness. Mindlessness is purity and perfection.

[endlessvista]

No, they're brainwashed like almost everyone esle is one way or another and to varying degrees.

What he said.

[lottie]

Or maybe you're just all brainwashed into thinking that religion brainwashes you!! :D

[lottie]

I'd hasten to add, if those who believe in the holy books are deemed 'mentally ill'....what does that make of people who believe reptilians rule the word from the 4th dimension!! lmao!! :rolleyes:

[armoured_amazon]

I'd hasten to add, if those who believe in the holy books are deemed 'mentally ill'....what does that make of people who believe reptilians rule the word from the 4th dimension!! lmao!! :rolleyes:

:D

[eternal_spirit]

This is just a sarcastic/trollish response to your thread.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25012


I think Xtians, Satanists, atheists... are all mentally ill. Mind is an illness. Mindlessness is purity and perfection.

ha ha, thought it may have been, my thread was a response to the other thread someone started called (Are Christians mentally ill?):p

[kingmonkey]

I'd hasten to add, if those who believe in the holy books are deemed 'mentally ill'....what does that make of people who believe reptilians rule the word from the 4th dimension!! lmao!! :rolleyes:

Why, who believes that?!

[amandaooo]

To my knowledge I have not been brainwashed. My school would hold assembly and the Rector would come in and talk about how chewing-gum trampled into the floors made them shrink because of the fluids the cleaners had to use on them. He somehow brought Jesus into this. But this was the time of Latecall - when anything could be brought back as a biblical story.

Christianity makes sense to me. I have a bible over a hundred years old with all the historical data/maps at the back and that has helped me with my knowledge.

I don't believe in religion - never have. I don't believe Jesus did either.

EDIT: One thing I find quite irritating however is double standards: ie if you had posted: "Are all muslims mentally ill?"; you probably would have received a warning.

[tracker]

What do you think?

well that is a good question to ask , so lets see .

a person who believes that there is an ivisible man in the sky .

Who loves all mankind but punishes him and his children to death , desease , etctec because of one man called Adam.

who loves every one but will punish us to enternal hell and death if we dont believe he is there despite the fact he refuses to reviel him self .

who is going to plant thoughts of war into mans head to create armogedon ( total hell on earth ) so that he can place his wrath upon us .

who let his own son die and be tauchourd to death in the name of salvation .

who is also going to destroy earth and heaven to create a new earth and heaven ( in the end )and killing us all in the process

geeeeeeeee now let me think ?:confused:

nope , my jury is out on this one ,:rolleyes:

[armoured_amazon]

We don't believe there's a man in the sky at all.

[element]

Maybe a hidden truth in christianity could be that hell = earth.
If you don't live good, you will be cast back again to earth, to relearn and finish your own evolution. A thought..;)

[newdecades]

i think an insidious form mental illness consists in obtaining pleasure, directly or indirectly, from the sufference of other living creatures.. for example, those who're eagerly waiting for death, violence and destruction to happen in this world, those are mentally ill.

like christians who are eagerly awaiting jesus to return and send people to hell?;)

[newdecades]

Who loves all mankind but punishes him and his children to death , desease , etctec because of one man called Adam.


actually, the bible makes it a clear point to put more of the blame on eve than adam.

[tracker]

Maybe a hidden truth in christianity could be that hell = earth.
If you don't live good, you will be cast back again to earth, to relearn and finish your own evolution. A thought..;)
ah ha , the re-encarnation thingy , hhm ? not too sure about that but cant dismiss it .

[tracker]

We don't believe there's a man in the sky at all.

God wouldnt be a "HIM" or "FATHER" if he was a "WOMAN" now would "HE" ?

Im not saying Armourd Amazon that there is no Eturnal loving conscious pool of eturnal knowledge ,

what i do know is that it isnt a "HIM" or a "FATHER" .

If the bible was written by men inspired by God as truth then you must believe that God is a "HIM" if you dont believe God is a "HIM" it could only mean that the bible doesnt tell the whole truth and wasnt enspired by God alone but also the Beast .

either way ithink what i am trying to say is that Believing in God may not so much mean one is mentily Ill but rather how it's toguht and what the end result is within certain peoples minds .
IE believing one book as the being and end all of all knowledge and truth is a mark of the mentaly Ill and totally believing the whole bible can make one mentaly Ill if not used in the open minded manner .

I have mett good open minded Christians that do look upon the Bible in a different way , but all this man in the sky being a father etc etc is total balony and makes people mentaly inept .

:cool:

[tracker]

actually, the bible makes it a clear point to put more of the blame on eve than adam.

Oh i see yet another blame Eve thingy rather than man .
Its as if Adam didnt have a mind of his own and Eve mind controlled him and made him eat it ?:eek:

sounds like a religiouse poor copout to me yet again .

If it isnt gods will its the devil , if it isnt the devil its reptilians or polotitions ?:rolleyes:

wether God punidishes all of adams children because of eve is irrelevent to the case that God punishes the inoscent !

it doesnt matter if its adam or eves fault .

One does not kill a child because their father ate an apple !

we are condemened to death because apparently eve made adam and controlled adam to eat an apple ???????????????????


that sort of god needs to be destroyed ASAP !

[lightgiver]

Jesus said: If those who lead you say unto you: Behold, the Kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heavens will be before you. If they say unto you: It is in the sea, then the fish will be before you. But the Kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then shall you be known, and you shall know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty.

[newdecades]

Oh i see yet another blame Eve thingy rather than man .
Its as if Adam didnt have a mind of his own and Eve mind controlled him and made him eat it ?:eek:

sounds like a religiouse poor copout to me yet again .

If it isnt gods will its the devil , if it isnt the devil its reptilians or polotitions ?:rolleyes:

wether God punidishes all of adams children because of eve is irrelevent to the case that God punishes the inoscent !

it doesnt matter if its adam or eves fault .

One does not kill a child because their father ate an apple !

we are condemened to death because apparently eve made adam and controlled adam to eat an apple ???????????????????


that sort of god needs to be destroyed ASAP !

i agree with you. just wanted to point out that the bible blames eve more so than adam, christians seem to try and ignore that.

[lightgiver]

i agree with you. just wanted to point out that the bible blames eve more so than adam, christians seem to try and ignore that.

Just remember its the bible saying it and not Jesus,who do you think wrote the bible:confused:

Christians follow the teachings of jesus :)

[tjohn]

What do you think?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698222&postcount=45

(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698222&postcount=45)http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698363&postcount=46

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698495&postcount=47

[lightgiver]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698222&postcount=45

(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698222&postcount=45)http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698363&postcount=46

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698495&postcount=47

To some one who quotes Einstein,maybe Einstein had lost his marbles also ;)

Albert Einstein and Jesus
September 9, 2007 · 11 Comments

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Albert Einstein’s mental prowess made him an icon for the disciplines of Science. As a Jew, Einstein had distinct views on Jesus, the New Testament, and the Church. Below is a clip of an interview from the Saturday Evening Post, October 26, 1929: “

“To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?

As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene.

Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book on Jesus?

Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot [a witty remark].

You accept the historical existence of Jesus?

Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.”

In a letter to the Episcopal Bishop Edward R. Wells in 1945, Einstein wrote concerning the behavior of the Christian Church during the Holocaust.

“Being a lover of freedom… I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks. Only the church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth. I never had any special interest in the church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly”~Baltimore Evening Sun, April 13, 1979.

This is one Jew’s view of Jesus. I am aware there are many views of Jesus in the Jewish world. Some despise Him, some admire Him from a far, some secretly believe, and some radically follow Him.

The Jewish High Holy Days begin this week–a time of a new beginnings and joy, a time of repentance, and a time of accounting for actions. A time when Jews all over the world are looking for redemption and for the opportunity to turn over a new leaf in the new year. They pray their “good deeds” will outweigh their “bad deeds.”

The prophet Zechariah said of his own people that someday ”They will mourn Him whom they pierced…” Jew or gentile, all our sins have pierced Him.

It seems that Einstein was “almost persuaded” to believe in Jesus as King Agrippa in the book of Acts.

In his “enthrallment with the luminous Nazarene,” I wonder if Einstein ever considered “that He was pierced?”

[lightgiver]

You accept the historical existence of Jesus?

Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.”

So easy to judge,accept when we are judging ourselves.

[nirvana]

:D:D:D

[runciter]

Jesus said: If those who lead you say unto you: Behold, the Kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heavens will be before you. If they say unto you: It is in the sea, then the fish will be before you. But the Kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then shall you be known, and you shall know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty.

His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."

[tjohn]

We don't believe there's a man in the sky at all.So where's your (mythological) Jesus now?

Acts 1:11 "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven."

Such doublethink = brainwashed.

[armoured_amazon]

'MY' Jesus is right here with me right now. Next question?

[tjohn]

To some one who quotes Einstein, maybe Einstein had lost his marbles also ;)
Maybe he had lost one or two. Genius and insanity often go close together.

Albert Einstein and Jesus
September 9, 2007

“To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?

As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene.

Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book on Jesus?

Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot [a witty remark].

You accept the historical existence of Jesus?

Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.” "No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot [a witty remark]" - could be a fitting and sarcastic remark but then Albert Einstein wasn't right about everything was he.

[tjohn]

'MY' Jesus is right here with me right now. Next question?Acts 1:11 "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go..."

Mark 16:19 "So the Lord Jesus, after talking with his disciples, was taken up to heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. "

As a Christian you will be saying that Jesus is God yet at the same time, be saying that God is his own father. You have said that you don't believe that God is a 'man' in the sky, yet the bible says Jesus ascended into the sky and sat down with God (who happens to be his own father)!

Doubledoublethink!

And apart from all that, who was supposedly in that filppin cloud that the Hebrews followed? Answer that and we might be getting somewhere.

[lottie]

Why is everyone so intent on trying to pick apart someone's faith? If you dont feel it is credible...fine...move along have your own opposing beliefs but why do you feel the need to continually dissect others peoples belief/faith? Why does it bother you so much? :confused:

Dont get all angry with me either- its a legitimate question with no 'tone' intended!

[tjohn]

We don't believe there's a man in the sky at all.Then here's a children's story! http://www.childrensermons.com/sermons/ascend.htm
Then a cloud formed around Jesus and he began to float up in the air on it! He slowly rose higher and higher until he disappeared from their sight. Wow! Then two angels appeared beside the disciples and told them that one day Jesus would return in the same manner that he had left.A bit like Santa Clause flying in the sky with his reindeers and then he comes down again through the chimney. Then that's also sad to be telling children because that also, is not based on the truth.

[tjohn]

Why is everyone so intent on trying to pick apart someone's faith? If you dont feel it is credible...fine...move along have your own opposing beliefs but why do you feel the need to continually dissect others peoples belief/faith? Why does it bother you so much? :confused:It bothers me because it's blind faith and is not based on truth and it bothers me when through believing things that aren't true, religion causes so much trouble in the world.

I add that I'm not angry with you, lottie. :) I'm not even really angry with people like Amazon (as of yet) - somewhat frustrated at their inability to use reason, yes.

"Come, let us reason together" - Amazon?

Anyone?

[element]

Are Christians mentally ill?

Unhidden Agendas: Exposing The Wizards of Oz - YouTube

Some are..:D

[armoured_amazon]

It bothers me because it's blind faith and is not based on truth and it bothers me when through believing things that aren't true, religion causes so much trouble in the world.

I add that I'm not angry with you, lottie. :) I'm not even really angry with people like Amazon (as of yet) - somewhat frustrated at their inability to use reason, yes.

"Come, let us reason together" - Amazon?

Anyone?

Actually, it's not blind faith and is based on truth and MANY personal experiences. So take your 'wisdom' and impart it to someone else. :)

[emerald]

Actually, it's not blind faith and is based on truth and MANY personal experiences. So take your 'wisdom' and impart it to someone else. :)

Illusions over illusions&nothing more... One more proof how programmed we are and how hard we cling on to this. Unfortunately...