The truth behind marijuana

[penguin]

I am sorry, but there are too many people against, chastis and use derogatory innuendos to inform people of the damaging effects that marijuana has.

But do you realy know what it is for and what it does, maybe instead of putting the drug down, inform the person to not mis-use or abuse the drug.
Remember marijuana has been around alot longer then pharmasutical drugs.

The Inca's use to put magic mushrooms in honey to preserve them and forment them.
I think we owe marijuana a big thank you for helping us to become the people we are today.

At least on marijuana people dont go out and vandelise properties or have massive fights and hurt people, cause mass amounts damage and require a police presence on night times.

marijuana
Can be used to make.....
Clothes
Fiber glass
plastics
food
liquids
fuel
funiture
There was a guy who built a full working car out of marijuana.


I smoke marijuana, I...
Never stole from anyone
Never hurt anyone
Never caused any damage
Never insulted anyone
Never had problems stoppping
Never had mental problems through it
Never felt out of control

I am sorry but I have had a damn good time onit.
I enjoy it more then drinking, the morning after is soo much better then drinking.I never felt like I need "hair of the dog" first thing in a morning.

So for all the bad that marijuana gets, why are the possative points always ignored.

I think we should ban Alcohol rather then a peace loving bit of grass.
At least marijuana doesnt turn people into raging idiots that cant control there own bowls let alone there own temper.

You know I dont care if this thread gets removed or bumpt!
I smoke the weed and I love the world.

If ignorance is bliss, why dont we live in a blissful world ?

[brainfreeze]

I am sorry, but there are too many people against, chastis and use derogatory innuendos to inform people of the damaging effects that marijuana has.

But do you realy know what it is for and what it does, maybe instead of putting the drug down, inform the person to not mis-use or abuse the drug.
Remember marijuana has been around alot longer then pharmasutical drugs.

The Inca's use to put magic mushrooms in honey to preserve them and forment them.
I think we owe marijuana a big thank you for helping us to become the people we are today.

At least on marijuana people dont go out and vandelise properties or have massive fights and hurt people, cause mass amounts damage and require a police presence on night times.

marijuana
Can be used to make.....
Clothes
Fiber glass
plastics
food
liquids
fuel
funiture
There was a guy who built a full working car out of marijuana.


I smoke marijuana, I...
Never stole from anyone
Never hurt anyone
Never caused any damage
Never insulted anyone
Never had problems stoppping
Never had mental problems through it
Never felt out of control

I am sorry but I have had a damn good time onit.
I enjoy it more then drinking, the morning after is soo much better then drinking.I never felt like I need "hair of the dog" first thing in a morning.

So for all the bad that marijuana gets, why are the possative points always ignored.

I think we should ban Alcohol rather then a peace loving bit of grass.
At least marijuana doesnt turn people into raging idiots that cant control there own bowls let alone there own temper.

You know I dont care if this thread gets removed or bumpt!
I smoke the weed and I love the world.

If ignorance is bliss, why dont we live in a blissful world ?


I understand where you're coming from, but the problem we have today is the different strains of skunk that have been "designed" which is far stronger than canabis. It grows with crystals on it. Have you seen the kids on it? My son was a fixture on my lounge carpet glued to the TV for hours on end, but he could never tell me what he was watching.

Canabis I don't have an issue with, but skunk will only mess you up, don't fool yourself about it.

[rossus]

I understand where you're coming from, but the problem we have today is the different strains of skunk that have been "designed" which is far stronger than canabis. It grows with crystals on it. Have you seen the kids on it? My son was a fixture on my lounge carpet glued to the TV for hours on end, but he could never tell me what he was watching.

Canabis I don't have an issue with, but skunk will only mess you up, don't fool yourself about it.
sounds like your son smoked too much.

to my knowledge, if the cannabis plants are organically grown they are good.
if the THC content is very high, then just smoke less.

if you smoke enough "weaker cannabis" then i'm sure you can get as
stoned as your son was when he was glued to the tv.



the effect you have on cannabis also depends on how you handle yourself.
it's possible for people to lose themselves or become very paranoid and anxious on a low dose,
yet other people can smoke 10 times as much and still be able to have intelligent conversation with others.

it depends wether one can "ground" himself or not.

[penguin]

Hello brainfreeze

I understand the concern of higher graded marijuana, I have spent time working with people who do abuse druggs.

It's the lack of insight that kills the brain, I am sorry about your son been glued to the tv, I found myself entering a room full of zombies once, after about an hour I had the lot cleaning, cooking and making new things.

marijuana has such a massive creative side to it, all I needed to do was start doing things and then everyone started doing there own thing natualy.
So I guess with all respect to you, maybe you should of binned the tv.

The best creative thing that marijuana brings out in people is "cooking"
I met a 16 year old who claimed he was addicted to the stuff, ater spedning a month with me he was going home cleaning up and cooking the evening meals. His parent thanked me personaly as it brought them back together as a family.

without guidence, even people who dont smoke drugs will end up sitting infront of the tv not knowing what they are watching.

[brainfreeze]

sounds like your son smoked too much.

to my knowledge, if the cannabis plants are organically grown they are good.
if the THC content is very high, then just smoke less.

if you smoke enough "weaker cannabis" then i'm sure you can get as
stoned as your son was when he was glued to the tv.

the effect you have on cannabis also depends on how you handle yourself.
it's possible for people to lose themselves or become very paranoid and anxious on a low dose,
yet other people can smoke 10 times as much and still be able to have intelligent conversation with others.

NO. SKUNK IS NOT LIKE CANABIS AT ALL!

With canabis you can still get on with your life, it simply takes the edge off. Skunk totally demotivates you.

I've been a pot head all my life. I gave it up because it's hard to find in the UK, it's mainly skunk they serve up. Believe me, there is a HUGE difference between the two. Dealers would love you to believe skunk is better than weed. It's not.

[brainfreeze]

Hello brainfreeze

I understand the concern of higher graded marijuana, I have spent time working with people who do abuse druggs.

It's the lack of insight that kills the brain, I am sorry about your son been glued to the tv, I found myself entering a room full of zombies once, after about an hour I had the lot cleaning, cooking and making new things.

marijuana has such a massive creative side to it, all I needed to do was start doing things and then everyone started doing there own thing natualy.
So I guess with all respect to you, maybe you should of binned the tv.

The best creative thing that marijuana brings out in people is "cooking"
I met a 16 year old who claimed he was addicted to the stuff, ater spedning a month with me he was going home cleaning up and cooking the evening meals. His parent thanked me personaly as it brought them back together as a family.

without guidence, even people who dont smoke drugs will end up sitting infront of the tv not knowing what they are watching.

My best poetry writes me when I'm stoned :p

As posted above, canabis is a gift from the Gods. Someone altered it and called it skunk, that's not a good thing.

[rossus]

NO. SKUNK IS NOT LIKE CANABIS AT ALL!

With canabis you can still get on with your life, it simply takes the edge off. Skunk totally demotivates you.

I've been a pot head all my life. I gave it up because it's hard to find in the UK, it's mainly skunk they serve up. Believe me, there is a HUGE difference between the two. Dealers would love you to believe skunk is better than weed. It's not.
where I live skunk is just a cannabis strain with High THC content.
there are different skunk strains.

maybe in England the word skunk means "strong weed" that is chemically altered ?

[queenofleon]

watch the marijuana conspiracy on you tube.

Because hemp can be used for practically everything, the head honcho's of the papers mills had to demonise it because they would lose so much money, hence "rifa madness" in the 1800's it was actually illegal not to grow it!!


oh how things change!!


watch it though, it explains alot.

[brainfreeze]

where I live skunk is just a cannabis strain with High THC content.
there are different skunk strains.

maybe in England the word skunk means "strong weed" that is chemically altered ?


That would be it. And it's hydra something or other grown in attics. This stuff grows faster than canabis we grow outdoors back home. It grows with crystals on the leaves.

[captaincaper]

[QUOTE=rossus;695571]where I live skunk is just a cannabis strain with High THC content.
there are different skunk strains.
QUOTE]

Correct, you talk about skunk and cannabis like they are two different things they are not "skunk" is just a strain of cannabis plant and im sorry its no stronger 2day than it was 10yrs even 20yrs ago and certainly no stronger than 2day than it was 5yrs ago when downgraded....In fact the only place I know of where cannabis, skunk, herb, mary jane or weed is stronger today than it was yesterday is in the daily mail office and downing street (so it must be true those guys wouldnt lie would they?)

Ever thought about getting rid of your TV as thats the drug your son was staring vacantly at as apose to a plant thats been around forever?

[penguin]

It's Delta 9 that is the chemical

Skunk is just a word, means nothing apart from smelly like the animal

Yes marijuana is the same as skunk, it starts the same way and grows the same AND tastes the same.
Its only strong because it is grown faster so there is a need for chemicals to maintain the speed growth. Its them chemicals that cause the damage.

I have known people to spray marijuana with silicon or sand to waigh it down,
Ever had a smoke and you can hear crunching sounds in your mouth?.

Its like heroin and coke, its not the drug that kills you its the crap thats put in it to make it waigh more or last longer.

[brainfreeze]

[QUOTE=rossus;695571]where I live skunk is just a cannabis strain with High THC content.
there are different skunk strains.
QUOTE]

Correct, you talk about skunk and cannabis like they are two different things they are not "skunk" is just a strain of cannabis plant and im sorry its no stronger 2day than it was 10yrs even 20yrs ago and certainly no stronger than 2day than it was 5yrs ago when downgraded....In fact the only place I know of where cannabis, skunk, herb, mary jane or weed is stronger today than it was yesterday is in the daily mail office and downing street (so it must be true those guys wouldnt lie would they?)

Ever thought about getting rid of your TV as thats the drug your son was staring vacantly at as apose to a plant thats been around forever?

The source of my sons problem was SKUNK

TV was a symptom.

I'm not going to fool myself about my sons mental health while he was on skunk and what he was doing to himself and I would hate it if he did that to himself too!

[captaincaper]

That would be it. And it's hydra something or other grown in attics. This stuff grows faster than canabis we grow outdoors back home. It grows with crystals on the leaves.


UTTER UTTER BULLSHIT all 3 sentances, DO YOU WORK FOR THE DAILY MAIL???? At least have a basic knowledge of the subject before spouting your propaganda.

1. Its Hydraponic (meaning no soil)

2. Grows faster than cannabis (UTTER RUBBISH it is cannabis and the flowering cycle of the plant doesnt change depending on the medium its grown in)

3. Crystals on leaves (This is not new to some SUPER DAILY MAIL SUPER SKUNK only hemp which is different and doesnt produce THC)

[brainfreeze]

UTTER UTTER BULLSHIT all 3 sentances, DO YOU WORK FOR THE DAILY MAIL???? At least have a basic knowledge of the subject before spouting your propaganda.

1. Its Hydraponic (meaning no soil)

2. Grows faster than cannabis (UTTER RUBBISH it is cannabis and the flowering cycle of the plant doesnt change depending on the medium its grown in)

3. Crystals on leaves (This is not new to some SUPER DAILY MAIL SUPER SKUNK only hemp which is different and doesnt produce THC)

I don't know who the hell you think you're speaking to like that but it's not me!

*ignores*

[penguin]

UTTER UTTER BULLSHIT all 3 sentances, DO YOU WORK FOR THE DAILY MAIL???? At least have a basic knowledge of the subject before spouting your propaganda.

1. Its Hydraponic (meaning no soil)

2. Grows faster than cannabis (UTTER RUBBISH it is cannabis and the flowering cycle of the plant doesnt change depending on the medium its grown in)

3. Crystals on leaves (This is not new to some SUPER DAILY MAIL SUPER SKUNK only hemp which is different and doesnt produce THC)

Hey man for someone who is trying to promote or change peoples view on it, you are not helping. Chastising peoples posts only brings arguements.
Maybe it is you who should chill, have a smoke and go and contemplate on how you speak with people.

You are rude and have no right to slag others off

[ownedtbh]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=33xvZK0FiRg&feature=channel_page

[penguin]

http://www.sustainable.org.uk/hemp/

:)

[brainfreeze]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=33xvZK0FiRg&feature=channel_page

Coke Head Mr Bush said, acceptance of drug use is simply not an option for this administration :p

[impermanence]

if you smoke enough "weaker cannabis" then i'm sure you can get as
stoned as your son was when he was glued to the tv.



It doesn't work like that, it's not like alcohol.

Weaker strains can only get you so high (sativa) or doped (indica). Potent strains bring you to new levels.

Cannabis comes in a WIDE variety of strengths, personalities and flavours and can be grown in many ways. When people say skunk they're simply talking about powerful strains grown properly (either on soil or water). There has always been powerful strains, the media would have you believe skunk is some new phenomenon created by mad scientists. It's simply the best strains from different parts of the world cross bred, it's not new and it's not any more dangerous.

People who are susceptible to schizophrenia (I think it's about 5% of the population) may trigger psychosis with cannabis abuse. The other 95% are at no risk of developing schizophrenia regardless of how potent the cannabis is.

Potent indica strains will leave you couch locked, (doped out of your mind with no energy), all you're good for is sleeping or watching TV and eating, these strains are the best for pain, insomnia or anxiety. They should only be smoked at night when there is nothing more to be done. If you smoke these strains all day like Brainfreez's son then you're an idiot, sorry Brainfreeze, it has to be said. Your son should be smoking sativas during the day, and not too potent, then he could go about his merry way doing what needs to be done and still enjoy a fizzy high.

People who are unstable, susceptible to panic, anxiety or depression should not be smoking cannabis at all but if they must; then smoking a potent sativa is a dumb idea, a high like that can be a VERY powerful psychedelic experience, as with psychedelics, the direction your trip takes depends on your reaction to loosing control. Most people will be fine, they'll love it, get into it, become creative ect ect but a small percentage will panic and possibly require benzodiazepines or alcohol to settle.


I hate the term skunk, people call any decent cannabis skunk these days. All cannabis strains and cross strains get names, skunk was just a name of one cross breed that stuck. Powerful strains have always been with us, as I said, they're nothing new or dangerous, they just need to be respected and understood. Would you give an 18 year old a whiskey for his first drink? Hell no, you'd give him a beer. It's the same with cannabis. It is a powerful drug and should be understood as such, it's not some harmless herb but it's also not the dangerous monster the idiot media like to portray.

If you find cannabis abuse is causing apathy, lack of motivation and passion, you're becoming introvert. Maybe anxiety, depression, OCD, you're thinking strange thoughts and believing them even though you know it's bonkers. It's causing problems with your relationships, work, health but you can't give up, or really don't want too. << Any of these problems means YOU have a problem and you need to get your ass in gear, stop smoking weed and maybe get some help. It's the very same with alcohol or any drug.

Most people will never have problems using any cannabis strains, even the cancer worry is now taken care of with vaporizers.

[johnabelardo]

no. Skunk is not like canabis at all!

With canabis you can still get on with your life, it simply takes the edge off. Skunk totally demotivates you.

I've been a pot head all my life. I gave it up because it's hard to find in the uk, it's mainly skunk they serve up. Believe me, there is a huge difference between the two. Dealers would love you to believe skunk is better than weed. It's not.

skunk is cannabis!!! Educate yourself!!!

[johnabelardo]

utter utter bullshit all 3 sentances, do you work for the daily mail???? At least have a basic knowledge of the subject before spouting your propaganda.

1. Its hydraponic (meaning no soil)

2. Grows faster than cannabis (utter rubbish it is cannabis and the flowering cycle of the plant doesnt change depending on the medium its grown in)

3. Crystals on leaves (this is not new to some super daily mail super skunk only hemp which is different and doesnt produce thc)

educate yourself mr freeze:

[johnabelardo]

i don't know who the hell you think you're speaking to like that but it's not me!

*ignores*

it is you. Try educating yourself before spreading misinformation:

Try growing your own and stop pissing and moaning about what dealers flog you:

[brainfreeze]

educate yourself mr freeze:

Please don't shove that man's spit in my face.

And I'm female :)

[brainfreeze]

it is you. Try educating yourself before spreading misinformation:

Try growing your own and stop pissing and moaning about what dealers flog you:


I don't need your rudeness. Take the time out to be more elequent perhaps?

[impermanence]

Brainfreeze, here is the results of the 21st Cannabis Cup (2008) Winners And Categories.

The Cannabis Cup is a festival that was started in 1987 by High Times editor Steven Hager, who came to The Netherlands for an interview with the founder of the first Dutch cannabis-seed company.

EVERY ONE OF THESE STRAINS would be considered skunk on the streets of your city, in the U.S. they call skunk 'kind bud'. These are the so called EVIL strains that you believe are not really cannabis. :D

Skunk is cannabis, it's just slang for damn good cannabis. The shit you would call normal cannabis is what any true stoner would call shwag weed (low grade).


21st Cannabis Cup (2008) Winners And Categories

Cannabis Cup[3]

1. Super Lemon Haze - Greenhouse United
2. Utopia Haze - Barney's
3. Chocolope - The Green Place

Indica Cup

1. Mt Cook - Kiwi Seeds
2. Cheese - Homegrown Fantaseeds
3. LSD - Amnesia Seeds

Sativa Cup

1. Utopia Haze - Barney's
2. Paradise Seeds - De La Haze
3. Cannatonic - Resin Seeds

Neder Hash

1. Royal Jelly - Barney's
2. Greenhouse Ice - The Greenhouse
3. Grey Crystal - Grey Area

Import Hash

1. Triple Zero - Barney's
2. Super Palm - Greenhouse
3. Shiraz - Amnesia

Product Cup

1. Be Chilling - Barney's & The Party Spray - DNA
2. Bubble Bags - Bubble Bags
3. Glass Vaporizer - Herborizer

Best Booth

1. Barney Farm

Glass Cup

1. AK - DNA Genetics
2. Mr Nice Custom - RooR
3. MOE - Green Devil

[captaincaper]

Please don't shove that man's spit in my face.

And I'm female :)

Sorry if I have offended you freeze (dont actually think I said anything that bad) I just get really annoyed about the day in day out BS force fed by the brainwashing media......That said I stick by what I say EVERYTHING you have said on the subject is misinformation/plain wrong/showing a total lack of knowledge of the subject.....I dont go round commenting on things I have not got a clue about maybie I just get wound up when others do.

PEACE :)

[brainfreeze]

Sorry if I have offended you freeze (dont actually think I said anything that bad) I just get really annoyed about the day in day out BS force fed by the brainwashing media......That said I stick by what I say EVERYTHING you have said on the subject is misinformation/plain wrong/showing a total lack of knowledge of the subject.....I dont go round commenting on things I have not got a clue about maybie I just get wound up when others do.

PEACE :)


Correction, I take back what I said and replace it with, my experience of canabis and skunk is that they are not the same. For me canibis is harmless while the strong stuff, skunk isn't. It is my view that the stronger strains messed up my kid, with his help.

I differentiate between the strengths by refering to them as canabis and skunk.

Hope I've cleared that up.l

[noobcybot]

NO. SKUNK IS NOT LIKE CANABIS AT ALL!

With canabis you can still get on with your life, it simply takes the edge off. Skunk totally demotivates you.

I've been a pot head all my life. I gave it up because it's hard to find in the UK, it's mainly skunk they serve up. Believe me, there is a HUGE difference between the two. Dealers would love you to believe skunk is better than weed. It's not.

I have to call time here, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[brainfreeze]

I have to call time here, you have no idea what you are talking about.


I may have got it wrong, and canabis and skunk are one and the same just different strengths. Thanks guys for informing me. But I stand by my view, the stronger stuff is not good for our youth and I'm not about to validate your propoganda - to throw that one back at those who tossed it this way - that it's perfectly safe for our kids.

[rossus]

...
ok very informative post,

but i think that with real strong strains you can still just smoke less
and this way avoid being couchlocked to death.

so in case of the mans son he should of smoked less,
or perhaps the herb was laced with something bad... not sure.

[brainfreeze]

ok very informative post,

but i think that with real strong strains you can still just smoke less
and this way avoid being couchlocked to death.

so in case of the mans son he should of smoked less,
or perhaps the herb was laced with something bad... not sure.

I'm female. That's a female in my avatar too, ma'am

[rossus]

I'm female. That's a female in my avatar too, ma'am
male, female, whatever :p

[kitchenmatt]

yet other people can smoke 10 times as much and still be able to have intelligent conversation with others.

it depends wether one can "ground" himself or not.

Hey Rossus,

How do you go about 'grounding' if you often lose yourself on even small amounts of cannabis? Could you elaborate a bit?

[noobcybot]

I may have got it wrong, and canabis and skunk are one and the same just different strengths. Thanks guys for informing me. But I stand by my view, the stronger stuff is not good for our youth and I'm not about to validate your propoganda - to throw that one back at those who tossed it this way - that it's perfectly safe for our kids.

I dont think kids should smoke it at all. Furthermore where is the idea that the strains are stronger come from? When people from the 60s talk to me about weed they dont seem to think it was much differant.
Besides what do you want from weed Freeze? Its meant to mong you out in front of the tv, thats what it does. First you talk forever and noone can get a word in, and then get the muchies and fall aslpeep playing videogames. Its not a sexy drug.

[brainfreeze]

I dont think kids should smoke it at all. Furthermore where is the idea that the strains are stronger come from? When people from the 60s talk to me about weed they dont seem to think it was much differant.
Besides what do you want from weed Freeze? Its meant to mong you out in front of the tv, thats what it does. First you talk forever and noone can get a word in, and then get the muchies and fall aslpeep playing videogames. Its not a sexy drug.


I got the idea it's got stronger from my own experience and use of the drug. Which is why I gave it up. I don't want to be that messed up.

Did you see the list of strains previously posted?

[johnabelardo]

Please don't shove that man's spit in my face.

And I'm female :)

Beg your pardon. :o


Try www.schmoo.co.uk

or www.cannabiscollege.com

Its important that people know the truth.

(In England), "Skunk" is used as a generic term for cannabis herb( as opposed to hash for cannabis resin). It has come to mean any decent weed.

I suspect your son was buying an indica variety which produces a heavy stoned feeling. Dealers are more likely to sell these because they flower faster and yeild heavier then sativa varieties. Sativa varieties have a more cerebral buzz and don´t give you "CouchLock"
There is also a multitude of cross breeds, one of which is named Skunk. It was bred in the late 70`s in the states and is 75% sativa.

Hydro is just a method of growing. If you buy tomatoes in winter chances are they.ve been grown hydroponically.
It has to be grown in attics cos it illegal.
Dealers are, for the most part, SCUM, they`re there (mostly) to make money.
Seriously, grow your own. And not just weed, veggies too!


Ps. its like the way people say "hoover"

[captaincaper]

I may have got it wrong, and canabis and skunk are one and the same just different strengths. Thanks guys for informing me. But I stand by my view, the stronger stuff is not good for our youth and I'm not about to validate your propoganda - to throw that one back at those who tossed it this way - that it's perfectly safe for our kids.

Directed at me I presume....At no point have I said its perfectly safe for our kids you are putting words in mouth, all I said (along with everybody else) is that you are talking nonsence on a subject that you obviously feel pasionate about but not passionate enough to actually research it.

prop⋅a⋅gan⋅da

–noun

1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
3. the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement.
4. Roman Catholic Church. a. a committee of cardinals, established in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV, having supervision over foreign missions and the training of priests for these missions.
b. a school (College of Propaganda) established by Pope Urban VIII for the education of priests for foreign missions.

5. Archaic. an organization or movement for the spreading of propaganda.


How can you validate MY propaganda talking fact on a subject is not propaganda, spreading lies/misinfo is.

[brainfreeze]

Directed at me I presume....At no point have I said its perfectly safe for our kids you are putting words in mouth, all I said (along with everybody else) is that you are talking nonsence on a subject that you obviously feel pasionate about but not passionate enough to actually research it.

prop⋅a⋅gan⋅da

–noun

1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
3. the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement.
4. Roman Catholic Church. a. a committee of cardinals, established in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV, having supervision over foreign missions and the training of priests for these missions.
b. a school (College of Propaganda) established by Pope Urban VIII for the education of priests for foreign missions.

5. Archaic. an organization or movement for the spreading of propaganda.


How can you validate MY propaganda talking fact on a subject is not propaganda, spreading lies/misinfo is.

I joined a discussion and gave an opinion, and was put right. But I'm spreading propaganda? -pendent with the spelling! - which is why I threw the word back after it was used on me.

Sheesh you guys are quick to label around here huh?

Are you guys always looking for a tangle, an arguement, discourse? Because that's how this board goes pretty darn often. We can disagree and learn from each other without a who-ha surely?

[doryl_roy]

You are correct in saying that both what is called weed and skunk come from the same families but there is a difference.

Real weed and that is yard weed that is grown naturally in the sun in places such as Jamaica, Africa, India and Afgan take around a year or maybe just a lil less to mature before flowering. Theres none of this 8- whatever weeks malarky and it is the king ding a ling we all need to be smoking. This weed has a soul and hence why so many have used it as a sacrament in the past and to the present day. Like a good wine as you know takes time to mature.

Skunk eventhough yes it is a strong strain of canabis is grown un naturally by forced flowering using lights and seeing as the lights used are not this thing called the sun i would say, and please say otherwise if you like, that this makes skunk that we get here non organic and seeing as we are organic, organic is the best for us. Not the strongest but the best.

Unless its grown in the sun it is not it whatever it is. Dont kid yourselves.

Problem we have and it is quite simple is that we are using these natural plants in an un natural environment and our education on such matters sucks monkey ass hence the problems. They are here for a reason and its not to buzz out playing video games and watching tv. Incoperate them properly and wisely. Of course the kids are having problems they are in this place.

Dam u i wasnt going to post again but someone had to stand with brain freeze. You are female right brainfreeze hahahahaha.;)

[johnabelardo]

Beg your pardon. :o


Try www.schmoo.co.uk

or www.cannabiscollege.com

Its important that people know the truth.

(In England), "Skunk" is used as a generic term for cannabis herb( as opposed to hash for cannabis resin). It has come to mean any decent weed.

I suspect your son was buying an indica variety which produces a heavy stoned feeling. Dealers are more likely to sell these because they flower faster and yeild heavier then sativa varieties. Sativa varieties have a more cerebral buzz and don´t give you "CouchLock"
There is also a multitude of cross breeds, one of which is named Skunk. It was bred in the late 70`s in the states and is 75% sativa.

Hydro is just a method of growing. If you buy tomatoes in winter chances are they.ve been grown hydroponically.
It has to be grown in attics cos it illegal.
Dealers are, for the most part, SCUM, they`re there (mostly) to make money.
Seriously, grow your own. And not just weed, veggies too!


Ps. its like the way people say "hoover"

Sorry bout jumpimg all over you Mrs Freeze.
Its a subject I have passion for.

[brainfreeze]

You are correct in saying that both what is called weed and skunk come from the same families but there is a difference.

Real weed and that is yard weed that is grown naturally in the sun in places such as Jamaica, Africa, India and Afgan take around a year or maybe just a lil less to mature before flowering. Theres none of this 8- whatever weeks malarky and it is the king ding a ling we all need to be smoking. This weed has a soul and hence why so many have used it as a sacrament in the past and to the present day. Like a good wine as you know takes time to mature.

Skunk eventhough yes it is a strong strain of canabis is grown un naturally by forced flowering using lights and seeing as the lights used are not this thing called the sun i would say, and please say otherwise if you like, that this makes skunk that we get here non organic and seeing as we are organic, organic is the best for us. Not the strongest but the best.

Unless its grown in the sun it is not it whatever it is. Dont kid yourselves.

Problem we have and it is quite simple is that we are using these natural plants in an un natural environment and our education on such matters sucks monkey ass hence the problems. They are here for a reason and its not to buzz out playing video games and watching tv. Incoperate them properly and wisely. Of course the kids are having problems they are in this place.

Dam u i wasnt going to post again but someone had to stand with brain freeze. You are female right brainfreeze hahahahaha.;)


Thank you for that DR :)

I'm from South Africa and smoked canabis out there. I can't smoke this UK rubbish. It's not good for me. Nor was it good for my boy, unfortunately he has his own lessons to learn, all I can do is my best to guide him. But for me the skunk issue was/is a major issue in my childs mental stablily, and I can't deny it.

[rossus]

Hey Rossus,

How do you go about 'grounding' if you often lose yourself on even small amounts of cannabis? Could you elaborate a bit?
Well actually i smoked cannabis a lot when i was younger,
used to lose myself a lot back then...
both sober and under the influence of cannabis...

the cannabis seemed to only intensify the symptoms
caused by me not using my mind the right way.



My problem was that i lost myself in Fear and Desire,
so both sober and under the influence i would be stuck in anxiety, in uncontentment (wanting more and feeling like i always lacked something)
and laziness would too be one of the symptoms of Fear and Desire.

Learning to be "meditative" is what helped me learn how to use my mind the right way.
in theory, most of us know we shouldn't be affraid or want too much...
but in reality it can sometimes be hard to practice it even though we want too,
because we somehow lost control over ourself.



To learn how to "ground" or "control" yourself, i don't think it's necessary to learn meditative practices.
As someone else in this thread already said, he entered a room full of lazy couchlocked pothead-kids
and he simply gave them tasks and as they started working they just lost that laziness.

I think that the problems people have with themselves may be just that simple.
it's just a matter of refusing to be the victim of yourself anymore
and taking back control.

instead of desiring, no longer desire.
instead of being afraid, no longer being affraid.
instead of being lazy, just move that ass!





There are two kind of meditative practices which I know of who are quite to the point
and which lots of people seem to have much respect for,
which makes me think that there must be something good to them.

They are called "Vipassana meditation" and "Zen meditation".

Myself I'm not fond of either,
and very much prefer the kind of "meditative being" as was taught by
Nisargadatta Maharaj & Ramana Maharshi.

Though Nisargadatta Maharaj was (in my subjective opinion) much better at explaining than Ramana Maharshi,
therefor i only read his book named "I AM THAT" (see my signature)

[brainfreeze]

Sorry bout jumpimg all over you Mrs Freeze.
Its a subject I have passion for.

No worries :)

[impermanence]

ok very informative post,

but i think that with real strong strains you can still just smoke less
and this way avoid being couchlocked to death.

so in case of the mans son he should of smoked less,
or perhaps the herb was laced with something bad... not sure.

It wasn't laced with something bad, it was just a potent strain. Yes he could have smoked less, but if he had a mild strain; smoking tonnes of the stuff won't get you as stoned as just a few tokes of a potent strain, that's what I was saying.





It's very hard to find mild cannabis on the streets these days, so yes, kids are smoking very strong cannabis, this is all the more reason why our governments should decriminalise cannabis and give people choice. The tax profits could be used to better educate kids or help those that need help.

Kids shouldn't be smoking cannabis period, there is a huge amount of evidence showing that teenagers that drink and/or smoke cannabis go on to develop addictive personalities and other psychiatric problems. The brain needs to develop without being exposed to psychoactive substances. It's not the fault of cannabis that they're fucked up, it's the fault of the ludicrous war on drugs (war on altered states of consciousness) and it's also the fault of the parents. Any child that has a healthy, honest relationship with informed parents won't get fucked up because they're unlikely to abuse drugs. It's very easy to blame cannabis when it's really the parents that weren't doing their job in protecting or informing their kids from / about drugs.

[noobcybot]

Are you guys always looking for a tangle, an arguement, discourse? Because that's how this board goes pretty darn often. We can disagree and learn from each other without a who-ha surely?

I think weed smokers are just sick and tired of people giving their habit trouble and criticism despite as the origional poster said, that weed smokers are generally quite nice and insightful people.
There are a million more truly evil things in the world to criticise and still the majority of sheeple like to dig at weed and such. Enough.
I think an argument has occoured here simply because weed has been so close to the agenda ( and lets be honest, a lot of us became aware of the agenda through weed ). Furthermore it has been speculated for some time that weed inhibits mind control and we owe it to ourselves to figure out of thats true. Weed makes you question shit.

[brainfreeze]

Can I just clarify. My kid is 21! :D

I kicked him off the lounge floor and out the house a year ago. Best thing I did for him. He's been smoking since 18.

[doryl_roy]

I think an argument has occoured here

Dam maybe Hicks was wrong maybe people can argue on weed. Yes yes i know it was fight but you know what i mean. Who hasnt had there medicine today then :D.

This is how this post would have gone if everyone was stoned and was doing something constructive.

[captaincaper]

I think weed smokers are just sick and tired of people giving their habit trouble and criticism despite as the origional poster said, that weed smokers are generally quite nice and insightful people.
There are a million more truly evil things in the world to criticise and still the majority of sheeple like to dig at weed and such. Enough.
I think an argument has occoured here simply because weed has been so close to the agenda ( and lets be honest, a lot of us became aware of the agenda through weed ). Furthermore it has been speculated for some time that weed inhibits mind control and we owe it to ourselves to figure out of thats true. Weed makes you question shit.


Perfectly said that, good post :)

[dimhttwhis]

1st of all marijauna is mexican tobbacco do your study and 2nd of all Hemp/Sativa is more important than we think. Why do you think the govt. try to manipulate us so much into thinking its destructive when infact its actually one of the many sources preventing us from being brain washed.

[impermanence]

Furthermore it has been speculated for some time that weed inhibits mind control and we owe it to ourselves to figure out of thats true. Weed makes you question shit.


I can say first hand that cannabis, like psychedelics, opens you up to new ways of thinking. It's as if it ignites new circuits in the brain. We actually have evolved with cannabis receptors which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt Humans have smoked or eaten cannabis for a VERY long time.

Tim Leary's eight circuit model of the Human brain makes for very interesting reading. ;)

As George Carlin pointed out, cannabis will change you, it will expand your consciousness, refine your tastes, help you reason and question. It will inspire creativity. But there comes a point when you will get all you can from cannabis and if abused further and not respected it will turn on you, instead creating apathy and dulling passion. Cannabis like psychedelics are teaching plants and they should be understood and respected as such, not abused to escape reality.

[captaincaper]

not abused to escape reality.


Even if its a manufactured false reality?

[noobcybot]

Dam maybe Hicks was wrong maybe people can argue on weed. Yes yes i know it was fight but you know what i mean. Who hasnt had there medicine today then :D.

This is how this post would have gone if everyone was stoned and was doing something constructive.

I wish I was stoned so I could understand what you typed there.

[seercirra]

That would be it. And it's hydra something or other grown in attics. This stuff grows faster than canabis we grow outdoors back home. It grows with crystals on the leaves.

hydroponics. it just means its grown in water. this allows the plant to get all the nutrients it needs, thus it grows quicker.
no cannabis is chemically altered. the most it ever has done to it is people use fake crystals to make it look better than it is.

skunk is just a strain of cannabis,
cannabis has never been genetically altered to provide higher THC content.

it has however gone through rigourous selective breeding between different phenotypes.
much in the same way as pedigree dogs and designer dogs go through selective breeding, to bring out the desired characeristics. theres nothing wrong with that.

cannabis is certainly, generally not stronger than it ever has been. much stuff sold on the street has a high thc content due to selective breeding. however its NOT like these plants with high THC content never existed and are in any way un natural. the only thing thats different is that theyre being used by more people.

my girlfriend hates the stuff but im gagging for some. godamn :o.

[impermanence]

Even if its a manufactured false reality?

I meant escape your problems. ;)

Deal with your shit first, then get stoned, unless of course if you can't escape your shit, then get stoned regardless. :D

[noobcybot]

Even if its a manufactured false reality?

I think this would depend on the old question "why are we here?"
Are we trapped in the world of illusion by choice or by force?

[doryl_roy]

I wish I was stoned so I could understand what you typed there.

I typed nothing implying that the post wouldnt have been started at all.

[captaincaper]

Are we trapped in the world of illusion by choice or by force?



or chance?

[drhemp]

UTTER UTTER BULLSHIT all 3 sentances, DO YOU WORK FOR THE DAILY MAIL???? At least have a basic knowledge of the subject before spouting your propaganda.

1. Its Hydraponic (meaning no soil)

2. Grows faster than cannabis (UTTER RUBBISH it is cannabis and the flowering cycle of the plant doesnt change depending on the medium its grown in)

3. Crystals on leaves (This is not new to some SUPER DAILY MAIL SUPER SKUNK only hemp which is different and doesnt produce THC)

Indeed, in fact this super strength cannabis that the Daily Mail talks of is quite hard to come by on the black market, as most cannabis is grown my criminals who are only interested in profit, so they tend to grow the faster flowering strains which generally have a lower THC content.

The Skunk myth has been deliberately perpetuated by the media and the Government, as the campaign to legalise cannabis was gaining so much strength (exuse the pun) over recent years and they don't want it legal, coz they have a vested interest in keeping it illegal.

[lewi]

;)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xL1zRZxz2HI

[h2pogo]

in the good old days it was illegal not to grow weed
its the most usefull plant known to man.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RnBfe9Ox2Tg&feature=email

[meksar]

Weed needs to be legal and anyone who says otherwise should research the various beneficial use of the hemp plant. The whole drug system has been created to justify and expand the whole prison industry so the Illuminati could as usual make more money for themselves and more fear,stress and chaos in society. We know the powers that be are profiting from the global heroin trade increasingly since the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, and the CIA has a dirty history in the coke market which included manipulated civil wars in central and South America. The CIA also created crack cocaine to target the inner cities particularly during the 80's in places like Harlem etc. The best solution is to legalize the softer drugs and provide substitute substances to addicts to hard drugs which is better for their rehab to be more efficient. Why should non-violent or stealing drug users be criminalized when drugs like pot has been proven to be safer the booze.

[kanz]

I understand where you're coming from, but the problem we have today is the different strains of skunk that have been "designed" which is far stronger than canabis. It grows with crystals on it. Have you seen the kids on it? My son was a fixture on my lounge carpet glued to the TV for hours on end, but he could never tell me what he was watching.

Canabis I don't have an issue with, but skunk will only mess you up, don't fool yourself about it.

Well from what you said i can tell you don't know much about weed. Not your fault , but please be careful with what you are saying. Let me explain something to you see "canabis" or "resin" this brown stuff comes from "skunk"( Pure resin is the trichomes collected off the plant and moulded together). So true "resin" is like 20 times stronger than skunk.

If you made it this far Ill explain why you prefer the resin to the skunk now. Well FYI the "canabis" is HEAVILY cut with rubber , plastic bags, boot polish , dog crap (you get the drift) .

Now we can see why you prefer you son on
"canabis" as he dosn't seam that bad that's cause hes not smoking weed hes smoking plastic etc . So ofc He isnt going to get stoned.

[hitithard]

Some people have the wrong ideas about 'skunk'

its a load of bollox. a term that has be blown up by the media. i would have thought all of you would have looked into the term a little more.

smoking cannabis deffinatly 'opens' your mind, like alot of drugs. The government doesn't want or like the RELAXED WAY OF THINKING CANNABIS produces

Its cannabis. Thats all. Strong cannabis. Over time people have just selected nice plants and crossed them with multiple plants, nothing out of the ordinary. this is done with all fruit and veg flowers etc. SKUNK IS WEED CANNABIS MARIJUANA all the same. Skunk isn't some magic genetically modified plant.....its strong cannabis, thats all. STRONG CANNABIS THATS ALL. you get STRONG alcohol and weaker alcohol, strong coffee, weak coffee,


If the so called 'skunk' plant is grown 100% organically what makes it a 'skunk' plant? Why has it been labeled a 'skunk' plant? its just a cannabis plant that has been selected for its high THC content. I would LOVE someone to answer this question for me, anyone. If the so called 'skunk' plant is grown 100% organically what makes it a 'skunk' plant? PLEASE.
If it is to do with growing under artificaial lighting,

what happens if i grow my 'skunk' seeds outdoor, 100% organic and natural lighting from the sun, are they not skunk seeds anymore?

Ok, hydro. The plant is grown in a liquid solution that gives the plant the exact nutrients that it needs to produce the best it can under the environment it is it. Thats all. Nothing special.

How do you distinquish a skunk plant?

if the media is refering to all plants that are grown under artifical lights indoor in a hydroponis system (i guess if the plant was in soil, is it still a skunk plant??) as a skunk plant that is bollocks.

I'm sorry but the term SKUNK really pisses me off.


Now a days here in Britain, the bud form of cannabis is smoked more widley than the crystals/ resin / hash

think about it ok......

in the 70's people were smoking high grade HASH. which is crystals from the buds compacted together. the crystals is what gives you the stoned effect not the green bud. Think how many crystals are needed to make hash. its sronger than weed.

So people are not smoking stronger stuff now a days, they are smoking better quality cannabis bud, yes its stronger, but you can get less stronger if you want. is that still skunk?
lots low grade hash that has plastic in it. we are the only country in europe to my knowlege were anyone buys it. fuck that.

I dont smoke anymore, i'm too old for that.

like anything, with moderation its fine. go overboard and yes, maybe you might have some negative side effects. its up to you.

forget this so called skunk.

[dmt head]

Dunno about hash being stronger than weed, I prefer mild hash or would love to get some bush, where you can smoke loads and dont get anywhere near the levels you get with the strong strains some folks sell, I smoke half a joint of that stuff and im zonked all night, cant sleep and stuff.

I think this is the sort of stuff brainfreezes son smoked , zonked for ages lol I agree wth brainfreeze that its far too strong and I dunno about 20-30 years ago but arond 10-15 there were loads of differet flavours of hash and you could get bush (weak grass name) but now its all this super potent stuff I just cant handle, and neither can teengers who are experimnting I bet. I miss the easily managable decnt bush or hash and would much rather than trying to smoke less of the weed now as it still gets you really wasted.

Does anyone know if people who grow under lights and use nutrients, is this still organic? Is it organic if its grown in 3 months then no?

[hitithard]

the only reason you can grow quicker using lights is because you have control of what the plants think is the season. No different to indoor commercial growing.

I think when you turn the light on for less hours and the plant will start producing cannabis.

thats why its quicker, because you don't have t wait for the natural seasons to change

[drael]

Funny as topic. So many misnomers, bigbears and also utopian thinking.

As many have pointed out, skunk is actually a strain with a higher THC content. Theres actually hash level thc in some of the dutch blends, so dont think the street level is high at all. (It generally peaks around 10%, whereas dutch varieties go up to 40% ish). The 10% level varities have been around for thousands of years.

See cannabis is a pre-historic plant. It was here before we were. We discovered it in two seperate places and began breeding it, like we do with dogs. Thousands of years later we have indica and sativa etc.

Anyway, "skunk" mis-info aside.. Let me address a few more points.....

A plant or substance is inert. It does nothing, it sits there. The person smokes it, just like a person squeezes the trigger on a gun. Lets not take the person out of the moral equation please.

Pot is psycedelic. Thats both useful in ways yet unrecognised by mainstream, and can also be harmful to those un-prepared or unknowing. Its our responsibility as a culture, and as parents, to inform our kids about inner space. There are basic skills like grounding, cleansing, meditative focus, breathing etc, that can get you out of all the trouble a psycedelic, or even meditation itself, might get you into. If we taught our kids how to ground, and basic ancient spiritual techniques, then they could avoid psychosis/anxiety etc, learn deep lessons quicker, and perhaps be garnered some healthy respect for natures bounty.

What modern science fails to to agknowledge is that all conciousness, all perception arises first in the deep mind. This makes spiritual and shamanic techiniques very important in reality. I guess so long as they keep flashing ads at us, and keep us working 24/7, well never have the time to even notice!

Excessive, escapist use of pot often co-presents with lack of motivation. Ive been there. All i can say is, i never really wanted to be involved back then anyway. If someone uses something, clearly, to escape, one can bet there problems run deeper than the external behaviour. If someone is cutting, u dont blame the knife, or even the person. You look to help, to seek the core issues, or accept their journey, because we all experience realisations about our behaviour and attitudes over life - usually on our own.

I think there are amazing treasures in nature, and pot is one of those (not the only one by far). But we are a species at war with nature, we cannot, will not accept equality with it. We know better, by default.

Life is naturally full of dangers and hurdles, many of which (or most) are very risky compared with using plant drugs that are very time tested. If you cant prepare your kids for this kind of reality, your really just preparing them for your imagination, where everythings the way ud prefer it.

Again, western society is at odds with danger, pain, risk and death. It makes creepy villians of them, and avoids mentioning them (compared with the ancients who made gods and symbols of them). Parents are locked into a very unrealistic mentality via this thinking. May as well surround all children in cotton wads.

So to sum, western society is afraid of natural levels of risk, is afraid of nature, and also of the deep mind and by proxy personality. Hence, they will forever miss out on the glorious truth within.

I smoked pot. I had "psychosis". I learnt how to ground, discovered the hearts of all my emotional problems and their origins, as well as the nature of truth itself. I am thankful to drugs, for taking me from a in denial pain state, into an aware good state, but not without its own hurdles. I learn mega, from my years of drug use. Thank you mother nature, and farewell to my fair teachers.

I do smoke a little spice now when stressed which ive discovered has its own special properties. Being primarily made from lions tail extract, it strongly potentiates dreaming. It is however not psycedelic in the way of cannabis, more a trance inducer like blue lotus. I also find it less habituating.

Our society is so far from most basic realities, its pretty pointless even debating the topic of marijuana. Still, my vote is to legalise all non-manufactered drugs, not that this counts for much, seeing as we are ruled by the unknowing majority.

A better tack to tack would be to constantly attack science, psychology, education etc. Remove assuptions, remove argument.

[supertzar]

It's funny to see UK attitudes toward "skunk." Skunk #1 is a great strain that has been bred the same way every variety of non-GMO vegetable has since the beginning of time. It is Cannabis and is very fine Cannabis. Why do UK people think good strains of herb are GMO or something?

[lewi]

Repeaters ..... skunk is weak ..... Amsterdam you can buy many different types of skunk.

UK news is focused on destroying this plant and the people who buy into the news end up repeating this stuff to people who are aware.

Endless cycle .... i guess i will see another fifty threads on the subject and the same reasons given for and against the crop being used.

Pointless .....

[redman]

The truth is... I smoke weed and it makes me fucking paranoid as fuck and I get about a million different thoughts in my head and not one of them are good and I start thinking why the fuck did I smoke that spliff because I know how it effects me.

Mad thing is I am fine on all kinds of other drugs, especially coke, that agrees me and makes me really creative and come up with all kinds of mad shit.


But weed, and it's mad, but when I was young I used to love it. But fuck me, I hate the shit now. Really bad vibes I get off it these days. Real scary. LMAO

So Weed to me, is most definitley stronger and fucks with ya head more than what some people like to let on.

Or may be I'm just a fanny... LOL Nah it's a awful feeling, fucks with me to death.

[gutcassidy]

Method of delivery plays a large part as well, in my experience anyway.

Ripping a big ass cone in a bong or bucket is gonna royally kick my ass. Only at night when all my errands have been run (or on a a hangover) can i get away with that...

Whereas a puff or two on a well rolled joint can be enjoyed basically any time I have enough green to roll one. My absolute favourite method is a sativa/indica mix in a Philly sweet. Beautiful, playful high.

(Anyone in Perth, Oz, know where to find Philly sweets any more??)

[grachtengordel]

I would LOVE someone to answer this question for me, anyone. If the so called 'skunk' plant is grown 100% organically what makes it a 'skunk' plant? PLEASE. [/B]



'SKUNK' is a strain or variety like 'king edward' or 'maris piper' potatoes or 'cox's' apples. 'Skunk' is a name given to ONE strain of cannabis but has become widespread as a slang term for 'strong , smelly ganja'

Much in the way that most people call a vacuum cleaner a "hoover" even if it is not made by the hoover company/brand. likewise the term 'tannoy' is often used to mean the p.a. system regardless of if it is actually made by the Tannoy company or another brand of loudspeakers

If you believe the mainstream media on 'skunk' then you may as well believe the propaganda of the 1930's that employed the use of a obscure mexican slang word to make the hemp sound alien and asscociate it with immigrants.... "marajuana"

Let me explain something to you see "canabis" or "resin" this brown stuff comes from "skunk"( Pure resin is the trichomes collected off the plant and moulded together). So true "resin" is like 20 times stronger than skunk.

If you made it this far Ill explain why you prefer the resin to the skunk now. Well FYI the "canabis" is HEAVILY cut with rubber , plastic bags, boot polish , dog crap (you get the drift) .

Now we can see why you prefer you son on
"canabis" as he dosn't seam that bad that's cause hes not smoking weed hes smoking plastic etc . So ofc He isnt going to get stoned.

saying skunk is not cannabis is like saying a ford is not a car

One important thing to know is that THC is not the only cannabinoid present in the plant's resin. C.B.D. and (less so ) C.B.N. play a big part in its effects on us (why we smoke it) and there are 58 other cannabinoids we know little about.

T.H.C. will stimulate the senses, inspire and is more of the psychoactive effects.

C.B.D. is the cause of the 'muscle relaxing effects and nerve calming

C.B.N. gives the 'fuzzy head' that comes with some varieties and this cannabinoid seems to have less benefit to the smoker

THUS......... strains with a high THC are for some people , some of the time
while some people might want a higher C.B.D. and lower T.H.C. content some of the time (thats you brainfreeze).

[getmeout]

I understand where you're coming from, but the problem we have today is the different strains of skunk that have been "designed" which is far stronger than canabis. It grows with crystals on it. Have you seen the kids on it? My son was a fixture on my lounge carpet glued to the TV for hours on end, but he could never tell me what he was watching.

Canabis I don't have an issue with, but skunk will only mess you up, don't fool yourself about it.

Again, skunk is not a particularly strong or special strain of cannabis, nor is it 'designed'. All strains have crystals those are what contains the thc.

Cannabis is not for everyone especially not kids/teenagers and it takes a bit of responsibility and discipline not to get too lazy if you're not used to it.

Dont wanna sound like a pothead (but i am, so that's the way it comes out :D) but it really is a great plant and it has helped me alot over the years.

[grachtengordel]

Again, skunk is not a particularly strong or special strain of cannabis, nor is it 'designed'. All strains have crystals those are what contains the thc.

But you really should not call them "crystals" as that is a misnomer. What you refer to as 'crystals' are more like a sap, imagine a bead of oily sweat that congeals so the outside is tacky , yet the inside of the TRICHOME is oily. They are not crystals which usually do not form on plants.
http://www.stonerforums.com/lounge/attachments/harvesting-drying-curing/889d1180419033-harvesting-trichome-color-2940when-harvest.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/dustybowls/PFCropped01.jpg

Skunk IS 'designed' but not in a lab by firing genes into cells, it is designed by cross-pollination, get a male with characteristics you like (resistance to mould, height, length of season) and put some of his POLLEN (spunk) on the FEMALE flowers (pussy) of a plant with other desireable characteristics (high thc, taste). The seeds are ready within the female flowers (buds) and all those horny bitches want is one grain of pollen from a male to fertilise them. If this occurs, the seeds develop (diverting energy away from flower and resin production) and when sewn will make plants with good traits from both parents. This is why you want FEMALE plants as male flowers produce the most miniscule amount of resin, they wont get you stoned and their pollen may fertilise any females around, which is bad unless you are making seeds not bud.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V-4pq853YwM&feature=related

Its JUST like breeding tulips, roses, dogs, horses, animals for food, and humans.

[kweli]

Good thread this, some sound information -so it's five stars from me.

[hitithard]

Repeaters ..... skunk is weak ..... Amsterdam you can buy many different types of skunk.

UK news is focused on destroying this plant and the people who buy into the news end up repeating this stuff to people who are aware.

Endless cycle .... i guess i will see another fifty threads on the subject and the same reasons given for and against the crop being used.

Pointless .....

So we have the original SKUNK No1 strain from the 70's, it was a cannabis plant bread and selected for its high yelilds/ high thc content , mold resistant, all the factors you would want in a crop.

you now get thousands on cannabis plants that have been given and are sold as seeds. LEGALLY in the UK btw...another stupid law. Its legal until you plant the seeds from what I understand.

A-K (BC Seed Co.) Afghani #1 X Hindu Kush
Acapulco Gold (Dr. Greenthumb) Landraces; Mexico, Acapulco
Afghan Delight (Soma) Afghani Skunk X Afghani Hawaiian
Afghani Orange (Capricorn) California Orange X Afghani
Afghani Special (KC Brains) Afghani X Double Afghani
Afghani Wonder (Blue Hemp) Afghani X Pakistani
Afghanica (Flying Dutchmen) Afghani #1 X Original Skunk
AK-47 (Serious) Colombian X Mexican X Thai X Afghani
All Green (Celebrity) Hindu Kush X Haze
Alp King (Valchanvre) Afghani X Skunk
Alpha 13 (Dr Chronic)
Amarelo (Brazilian Seed) Landraces; Brazilian Sativa
Amazonia (White Widow Web) White Widow X Green Thai
Ambrosia (Jordan of the Island) God Bud X Burmese
Americano (Entreprise) Skunk X Northern Light
Amethyst Bud (Soma) Lavender Bud X Afghani Hawaiian
Amnesia 99 (JLP) Soma Amnesia Haze X Cinderella 99
Amnesia Haze (Soma) Afghani Hawaiian X SouthEast Asia
AMS (Greenhouse) Swiss Sativa X Swiss Indica
Amstel Gold = Passion #1 (Dutch Passion)
Amsterdam Bubblegum (THC Seeds) Afghani X Blueberry
Apocalypse = Blue Kiev x Apollo 11
Apollo 11 (Brothers Grimm) Genius X Cinderella 99
Apollo 13 (Brothers Grimm) Genius X Princess 88
Apollo GF4 (Canadian Seed Co.) Apollo 11 X Genius
Apollo Mist (Reservoir) Apollo 11 G4 X 1998 Pre-Sensi Kali Mist Mother
Apollo Orange (Spice Brothers) California Orange X Apollo 11 Genius pheno
Apollo Thunder (Spice Brothers) Apollo 11 X Matanuska Thunderfuck
Apollo’s Trip (Reservoir) Apollo 11 X Apollo 13
Apple Pie (Reeferman) Acapulco Gold X Highland Nepalese
Arjan’s Haze #2 (Green House) Neville’s Haze X Super Silver Haze X Laosian
Arjan's Strawberry Haze (Greenhouse) Swiss Sativa X [Northern Light #5 X Haze]
Asia Girl (Reeferman) [Thai X Nepalese] X Northern Lights #5
Astroboy (Subcool) Apollo13 X Ortega X Cinderella 99
Aurora (Chimera) Blue Domino X Northern Light
Aurora B (Flying Dutchmen) Northern Lights X Skunk #1
Aurora Indica (Nirvana) Afghani X Northern Lights
Australian Blue (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Duck X Blue Haze
Avalon (Next Generation) Afghani X Blueberry

B
B-52 (Nirvana) Big Bud X Skunk
B- 52 Bomber (Almighty) White Widow X Lionheart
Bahia Black Head (KC Brains) Thai X Brazil X KC 606
Baked Alaska (Juan Moore) Peak 19 X Tangerine
Baldy (BC Seed Co.) Big Bud X Northern Light #5
Bangi “aka Congo” (A.C.E.) [Congolese x Congolese] X [Chitral X Chitral X Chitral]
Basic #5 (SSSC) a Northern Light
Basic Diesel (Reservoir) SSSC M-39 X Sour Diesel
BC Albino Rhino (BC Bud Depot) Also known as White Rhino
BC Big Bang (Next Generation) BC Big Bud X Dynamite
BC Biker Bud (THC Seeds) Afghani X Northern Light X White Widow
BC Blue #1 (THC Seeds) Blueberry X Blueberry X BC Biker Bud
BC God Bud (BC Bud Depot) God X Hawaiian X Purple Indica
BC Purple Star (BC Bud Depot) Purple Star X BC Purple Indica
BC Sweet God (BC Bud Depot) BC God Bud X BC Sweet Tooth
BC Sweet Tooth (BC Bud Depot) An advancement of Sweet Tooth #3
BC Timewarp Chemo (Woodhorse) Timewarp X Citrus X BC Chemo
Beatrix Choice (SSSC) [Afghani x South African] X Acapulco Gold
Beauty and the Beast (BCGA) Chemo X Cinderella 99
Bella Ciao (Tiki) Northern Lights X ??
Belizean Sativa (Reeferman) Landraces, Belize
Belladonna (Paradise) Superskunk X F1 Hybrid (?)
Belizean Sativa (Reeferman) Landraces; Belize
Betazoid (Entreprise) Grapefruit X Northern Light X African Sativa
Berry Blaster (Motarebel) Blueberry Afghani X Cherry Bomb II
Berry Bolt (Motarebel) G-Bolt X Bubbleberry
Berry Bud (Motarebel) Afghani X Firecracker
Berry Kush (Motarebel) Bubbleberry X
Biddy Early (Magus) Early Skunk F2 X Warlock
Big Bang (Greenhouse) Skunk X Northern Light X El Nino
Big Blue (BC Seed Co.) Northern Light #5 X Blueberry
Big Bud (SSSC) [Big Bud cutting X Northern Lights #1] X Big Bud cutting
Big Bud (Nirvana) Afghani X Skunk #1
Big Buddha Blue Cheese (Big Buddha) Big Buddha Cheese X Blueberry
Big Buddha Cheese (Big Buddha) (Afghani X Cheese) X Original UK Cheese
Big Funk (Legends) [Skunk X Big Bud] X ??
Big Gun (Capricorn) AK-47 X Matanuska Tundra
Big Mac (Federation) BC Big Bud X Mikado
Big Thunder (Reeferman) a Humbolt strain X Kodiak Gold
Big Treat (Breeder Steve) Dutch Treat X Big Skunk
Bitchin Blue (Motarebel) BlueMoonshine X Killa Queen
Black Bubble = Black Domina x Bubblegum x ???
Black Cherry (Subcool) Cherry DannyBoy X Black Russian
Black Cherry (Subcool) ?? [Airborne G-13 X Cinderella 99 X Ortega] X [Cinderella 99 X Blackberry X Cherry

AK47] ??
Black Domina (Sensi) Ortega X ??
Black Gold (Dman) Columbian Gold X [G13 x Black Widow]
Black Goo = Blue Bubble Juice [male] x Black Bubble
Black Ice (Motarebel) Black Domina X Ice
Black Kat (Motarebel) [G13 X Black Widow] X FireCracker
Black Mamba (Blue Grass) Black Domina X Blue Bubblejuice
Black Russian = Cherry Ak47 x SomAblaze Blackberry
Black Spice (Dman) Silver Spice X G13 X Black Widow
Black Widow (Mr. Nice) Brazilian Sativa X South Indian Hybrid
Blockhead = SWT#3 x ???
Blonde Widow (Motarebel) Strawberry Blonde X Aloha 98 White Widow
Blue Alaskan fem. (Reeferman) Matanuska Thunderfuck X Blueberry Sativa
Blue Apollo (Joey Weed) Blueberry X Apollo 11
Blue Bubblejuice (Blue Grass) Bubblejuice X Blueberry
Blue Candy (Mr. Blue) Blue Skunk X Cotton Candy
Blue Cheese (Bid Buddha) Orig. UK Cheese X Blueberry
Blue Crystal (World Wide Seeds) White Heaven X Blueberry
Blue Dynamite (Next Generation) ??Blueberry X Dynamite??
Blue God (Jordan of the Island) Blueberry X Godbud
Blue Goo (Blue Grass) Blue BubbleJuice X Double G
Blue Grape #1 (Electric Seed) Grapefruit X Blueberry
Blue Haze (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Haze X Blueberry
Blue Hen (Blue Grass) Blueberry X Super Silver Haze
Blue Hun (Blue Grass) Blue Hen X Blue Russian
Blue Jack (Reeferman) Blueberry X Jack Herer X Northern Lights #5
Blue Jamaican (Blue Grass) Marley’s Collie X Blue Russian
Blue Kiev (Blue Grass) Blue Russian X AK-47
Blue Kronic (Motarebel) [BlueMoonshine X Killa Queen] X Black Kat
Blue Moon Rocks (BOG) Blue Moon X BogBubble
Blue Mystic (Nirvana) Blueberry X Skunk
Blue Nepalese (Reeferman) Nepalese Sativa X Blueberry Sativa
Blue Pearl (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Silver Pearl X Blue Haze
Blue Rocket (Blue Grass) Blue Rocker X Blue Bubblejuice
Blue Russian (Blue Grass) Blue Hen X Juicy Russian
Blue Satellite = Blueberry Sativa x Swt#2 male
Blue Skunk X (Mr. Blue) Blueberry X Skunk
Blue Thunder (Sagarmatha) Blueberry X Matanuska Tundra
Blue Thunder (Reeferman) Blueberry Sativa X Kodiak Lavender
Blue Thunder 13 = Blue Hen {female} x MrNice G13HP {male}
Blue Velvet = Purple Thai[Oaxaca Gold x Chocolate Thai] x Afghani male
Blue Widow (NCGA) Blueberry X Aloha White Widow
Blueberry (DJ Short) [Oaxacan Gold X Chocolate Thai] X Highland Thai X Afghani
Blueberry Blast (Reeferman) Northern Lights #5 X Blueberry Indica
Blueberry Haze (DNA) Dj Short Blueberry X Secret Haze
Blueberry Magic (Reeferman) Magic Carpet Ride X Blueberry Sativa
Blueberry NL (Dr. Atomic) Blueberry X Northern Lights
Blueberry Punch (Next Generation) Blueberry X Romulan
Bluebottle (?Xbx?) (SuperSkunk X BubbleGum Indica) X Blueberry Sativa
Bluez Cluez (Juan Moore) Blue Widow X Tangerine
Bogglegum (BOG) Northern Lights #5 X Bubblegum
BOG Lifesaver = [Jacks cleaner x DJ Short's Blueberry] x Bogbubble x Bogbubble
BOG BogBubble = WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum
BOG L.S.D = [(WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X Subcools JCB] X NYCD
BOG BoggleGum = [whitelabel BG x BC Seed Co NL#5] x BG x BG x BG
BOG Grape Punch = [(WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X NL5] X [(WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X

Subcools JCB]
BOG Sour Bubble = [WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum] X [WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum]
BOG Sweet Cindy99 = SWT#3 X C99 f2
BOG Blue Moon Rocks = (WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X BlueMoon [not bluemoonshine]
Bomber’s Widow (Motarebel) [G-13 X Black Widow] X Cherry Bomb II
Bottle Rocket (Reservoir) Killer Queen X DTC 99
Brains Choice (KC Brains) Jamaica Lambsbread 94 X ?Leda Uno 96? X White Widow
Brains Damage (KC Brains) Mexico, Acapulco X [Hawaii 93 X Mango 2001 X KC 36 606]
Brains Escape (KC Brains) Edelwuiss X [Brazil, Salvador X KC 606]
Brainwreck (HighGrade) Trainwreck X White Widow
Brazil KC (KC Brains) Mango Vermelho, Paranaiba X K.C. 606
Brazilian Gold (Brazilian Seed) Landraces; Brazil
Brazilian Haze (Brazilian Seed Company) Haze X Brazilian Khola
Brazilian Lemon (Brazilian Seed Company) Mango Rosa X “a Secret Strain”
Brazilian Skunk (Brazilian Seed Company) Original Green X Early Chemo
Bronze Whaler (MJOZ) Bronze Whaler X Skunk #1
Bubba Kush
Bubbleberry (Dman) Blueberry X Bubblegum
Bubbleberry (Sagarmatha) Bubblegum X Blueberry
Bubblefunk (BC Seed Co.) Bubbleberry X Northern Light #5
Bubblejuice (Blue Grass) Juicy Fruit X Bubblegum
Bud Bunnie (White Widow Web) White Widow X Super Skunk
Buddha (Dutch Passion) [Oasis X Shiva X Haze] X [Oasis X Shiva X Skunk]
Buddha’s Sister (Soma) Reclining Buddha X Afghani Hawaiian
Burmaberry (Reeferman) Shishkaberry #3 X Burmese
Burmese Pure (Reeferman) Landraces; Highland Burma
BushDoctor (??) Airborne G13 X [Malawi X Jamaican]
Bushmans (Herbaria) South African Sativa, Ciskei
Butterscotch Hawaiian (Reeferman) a Hawaiian X Butterscotch Afghan

C
C-Plus (Chimera & DJ Short) California Orange X Dj’s Blueberry
C4 (Chimera) Frost Bite X Shishkaberry
Cali Miss (BC Seed Co.) Haze X Five-O
California Grapefruit (DNA) [Northern Light #1 X Californian Skunk #1 90s] X Californian Afghani 80s
California Orange = Thai x [Afghani x Acapulco Gold]
California Special (KC Brains) American California X Skunk
Calizhar (Chimera) Cali-O X Shiskaberry
Calvin (BlueHemp) California Orange X Landraces, Lebanese X Swiss Sativa
Calyxxx (Almighty) Grapefruit X Friesland X a old school humbolt
Canadian Classic (Reeferman) Grapefruit X Burmese
Candy Cane Brain (Shadow Seed) Silver Shadow X Grapefruit
Canela (A.C.E) Indian Malana X Jamaican Blue Mountain 1984
Canna Sutra (Delta 9) Reclining Buddha X Sensi Star
Cannalope Haze (DNA) Haze X Landraces; Mexico, Michoacan
Capricho (Canna Biogen) Manali X Colombian
Caribe (Canna Biogen) Jamaica X [Jamaica X [Northern Light #5 X Haze]]
Celestial Temple Sativa (Federation) Landraces; Ecuador, Andes Mountains
Champagne (Reeferman) [Hashplant X Hindu Kush] X Burmese
Cheese (Big Buddha’s) Orig. UK Cheese X Afghani
Chemo Grizzly (Kootenay Mountain) 2 differents Chemo
Chemota Dragon (Motarebel) UBC Chemo X Killa Queen
Cherry Berry (Reeferman) Cherry Bomb X Blueberry Indica
Cherry Bomb (Almighty) Lionheart X Sage
Cherry Bomb #2 (Prairiefire) M-80 Cherry Bomb from Northern California X Cherry Bomb from Southern

Kentucky
Cherry Melon = Cherry Ak47 x Jack Candy
Cherry Thai (Reeferman) Cherry Bomb X Oregon Purple Thai
Chewing (BlueHemp) Double Gum X Swiss Sativa
Chilla (BlueHemp) Kush X Nepali
China White (Reeferman) Chinese Indica X Nepalese Indica
Chinese Indica (Reeferman) Landraces; SouthWest China, Yunnan
Chitral (Dutch Passion) Chitral-Hasj X Skunk
Chocolate Chunk (ThSeeds) Afghan X S.A.G.E.
Chronic (Serious) Northern Light X [Skunk X Northern Light] X AK47
Chronicle (BlueHemp) Chronic X Lebanese X Swiss Sativa
Chrystal (Nirvana) [White Widow X Northern Lights] X Northern Lights
Church, the (Greenhouse) Swiss Sativa X SuperSkunk X Skunk X Northern Light
Cinderella 99 (Mr. Soul) Princess X Princess 88
Cinderella Blues (Spice Brothers) Blueberry Sativa X Cinderella 99
Cindy Princess (Spice Brothers) Cinderella 99 X Ice Princess
Cinnamon (Female Seeds) Jack Herer X ??
Citral (Nirvana) Hindu Kush X ??
Citralah (Soma) Landraces; Pakistan, Chittral X Afghani Hawaiian
Citrus Skunk (Jordan of the Island) Skunk #1 X California Orange
City Slicker (Motarebel) Pacific G13 X NYC Diesel
Cloud #7 (Herbaria) Afghan X South African
Colombian Gold (Brazilian Seed) Landraces; Brazil
Colombian Haze (Brazilian Seed) Colombian Gold X Haze Special
Colombian Jack (Brazilian Seed Company) Colombian Gold X Jack Herer
Congo “aka Bangi” (A.C.E.) [Congolese X Congolese] X [Chitral X Chitral X Chitral]
Conquistador (Subcool) Hashplant X Ortega X Cinderella 99
Continental (A.C.E) Caribbean X Congolese X Pakistani
Cotton Candy (Federation) Afghani X Blueberry
Couchlock (BC Seed Co.) Northern Lights #5 X Afghani #1
Crazy Daze (Dman) Red Haze X [G13 x Black Widow]
Cripple Creek (Tom Hill) Pine Tar Kush X Deep Chunk
Critical Hash 47 (Spice Brothers) [Hashplant x Critical Mass] X AK-47
Critical Mass (Mr. Nice) Afghani X Skunk #1
Crown Royal (Federation) Hawaiian Sativa X Mikado
Crystal (Nirvana) White Widow X Northern Lights
Crystal Lightning (White Widow Web) White Widow X Super Thai
Crystal Limit (KC Brains) Crystal X KC 606
Crystal Paradise (KC Brains) Californian BigBud Skunk X Brazil (Mango Vermelho from Brazil, Paranaiba)
Crystal Ship, the (Reeferman) Kali Mist X Kodiak Gold
Crystalberry (Cannabis Pros) Blueberry X Northern Light #5
Cujo (Motarebel) Dogbite X Killa Queen

D
Da Bomb (Dman) [G13 X Black Widow] X Cinderella 99
Dagga (Cannbis Pros) Landraces; South Africa, East Coast
Dankee Doodle (KC Brains) [Viking 90 X Big Buds 93] X KC 636
Dannyboy (Subcool) Killer Queen X Taco
Dark Kush (BlueHemp) Landraces, Hindu Kush Mountains
Dark Vader (BlueHemp) Kush X [Kush X Afghani]
Dawg (??) Aesop’s Fables Fox X Grapes
Daywrecker - See Headband Diesel
Delta 9 (Dutch Passion) Isis X Flo
Deep Chunk (Tom Hills) Afghanistan IBL
Desert Queen (No Mercy) Sudden Death # Master Ice X Everest Queen # WK
Destroyer (Canna Biogen) Meao Thai X [Mexican X Colombian]
Devil (Mr. Nice) Afghan X [Afghan X Skunk]
Diablo (Next Generation) Blueberry X Grapefruit X South African Sativa
Diamond Head (Sagarmatha) Flow X Atypical Flow
Diesel (??) Mass Super Skunk X Chem Dawg
Diesel 39 (Reservoir) M-39 X Sour Diesel
Delta 9 = Isis [female] x Flo [male]
Dirty Harry (Motarebel) Grapefruit Bx1 X Herijuana
Diva G (Tuktuk) G13 X Cali Sat
Dixie Chicken (Juan Moore) Jacks Cleaner X Airbornes G13
Dixie Crystals (Juan Moore) Aloha 98 White Widow X Cinderella 99
DNL = RFK X Hawaiian
Doc Chronic (Reeferman) Fraser Valley Sativa Hashplant X California Indica
Doctor, the (Greenhouse) Great White Shark X South Indian X SuperSkunk
Dolce Vita (Dutch Passion) Isis X Power Plant
Dope, the (AAA Seeds) Northern Lights #5 X Haze
Double Bubble = Black Bubble x Double G
Double G = Gum13 x G13HP
Double Dutch (Magus) pre-2000 Chronic X Warlock
Double Dutch Haze Skunk (Fleur du Mal) Dutch Haze SkunkX [Haze #19 X Skunk #1]
Double Purple Doja (Subcool) Sputnik 1.0 X Black Russian
DTC 99 (Spice Brothers) Durban Thai Highflyer X Cinderella 99
Ducksfoot (WallyDuck) Ducksfoot X Sativa backcrossed to 97% ducksfoot
Durban / Durban Poison (Sensi / Dutch Passion) Landraces; South Africa, Durban
Durban Poison (Nirvana) South African Sativa X Skunk
Durban Red (Effettoserra) Landraces; Durban X Purple Widow
Durban Thai Highflier (SSSC) Thai X Durban Poison
Durga Mata (Paradise) Shiva X Shiva
Dutch Dragon (Paradise) [Durban X Skunk] X California Indica

E
Early Brambleberry (Patch Works) Early Bramble X Purple Pineberry
Early Chemo (Brazilian Seed Company) Early Girl X UBC Chemo
Early Green (Brazilian Seed Company) Early Green X Original Green
Early Misty (Nirvana) Misty X Skunk
Early Pearl = Early Girl x Polly {polyanna}
Early Queen (Mr. Nice) early Californian blends X Mexican Sativa
Early Skunk (Sensi) Skunk #1 X Early Pearl
Early White (Effettoserra) Northern Lights “early genotype” X White Special “early genotype”
Eclipse (Homegrown Fantaseeds) BubbleGum 95 X Hindu Kush #12
El Nino (Green House) [Haze X Super Skunk] X [Brazilian X South Indian]
El Peru (Blue Grass) El Nino X Peruvian Skunk
Electric Haze (BC Seed Co.) Northern Light #5 X Haze
Elvis aka Elvis PressedMe (Celebrity) Chitral X Skunk
Endless Sky = Iranian Indica x Grenadine
Ethiopian Highland (African) Landraces; Ethiopian Highland
Euforia (Dutch Passion) a selected Skunk X a selected Skunk
Everest Queen (No Mercy) K-2 X Shiva Special
Exile (Magus) Warlock (50%) X Northern Lights (25%) X White Widow

F
F’N’Blue (Vancouver Seeds) Blueberry X Fuckin’ Incredible
Far Out (World Wide Seeds) Northern Lights X Haze
Fast Blast (Afropis) Landraces; Iranian X Blueberry
Fast Manitoba (Great White North) Early Girl X ?Early Girl?
Fig Widow Queen (Dutch Flowers) Fig Skunk X Aloha 98 Widow X Cinderella 99
Fighting Buddah (Chimera & DJ Short) Burmese X Blueberry
Fijian Sativa (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Landraces; Fiji’s Island
Firecracker = A Willem's Wonder-dominate Willie D male pollinated two Willem's-dom pheno Willie D girls
Five-O (BC Seed Co.) Hawaiian Indica X Northern Lights #5
Flo (Dj Short) Purple Thai X Afghani
FourWay (Head Seeds) [Cinderella 99 X Apollo 11] X [New York City Diesel X G-13]
Free Tibet (Soma) Nepalese Hash Plant X Afghani Hawaiian
Fruit Bowl (Sunshine) Purple Maui X Sweet Tooth #3
Fruity Juice (Sensi) Thai X ??
Fruity Thai (Ceres) Thai Sativa X Dutch Indica
Fuma Con Diablos (Flying Dutchmen) Skunk #1 X Original Haze
Fumar Con Dios (Flying Dutchmen) Original Haze X Skunk #1

G
G-Berry (?Memy?) G13 X Blackberry X Doublegum
G-Bolt (Motarebel) Pacific G-13 X Yumbolt
G-Star (Motarebel) Star Gazer X [AK-47 X White Widow X G13]
G-SUS (Reeferman) G13 X Godbud
G13 Blue Widow (NCGA) [Blaze x G13 x Northern Lights] X Blue Widow or G13 X Blue Widow
G13 Diesel (Head Seeds) G13bx X Rezdog’s East Coast Sour Diesel v3
Gainesville Green [Micanopy Moonbeam]
Generals Daughter (Fleur du Mal) [G13 X Northern Lights] X Cinderella 99
Ghandi (High Quality) South Indian X Skunk
Ghaze Bx1 (Dutch Flowers) [G13 X Uber Candy Haze] X G13
Ghost (Reeferman) Burmese X Kali Mist
Giant Cindy (Spice Brothers) Green Giant X Cinderella 99
Giant Princess (Spice Brothers) Green Giant X Ice Princess
God’s Treat (Jordan of the Island) Dutch Treat X God Bud
Golden Haze (Dr. Greenthumb) Acapulco Gold X Haze
Golden Skush (GN03) Skunk X Hindu Kush
GoldenMoon (GoldenSeed) GoldenSkunk X Mazar
Gonzo #1 (Reservoir) M-39 X Williams Wonder
Gordy’s Spice #18 (Motarebel) Pacific G-13 X Northern Lights #5
Gourdbuster (Motarebel) City Slicker X Killa Queen
Granflora (Owls Production) Afghan X Purpurea Ticinensis
Grape Mayhem (Motarebel) Mayhem X Grapefruit Bx1
Grape Punch (BOG) Lifesaver X Bogglegum
Grapefruit = This is a 75% C’99 x 25% strong fruity sativa??? /steve says it was a clone only...
Grapefruit Haze (Next Generation) Grapefruit X Haze
Grapeskunk (Next Generation) Super Skunk X Grapefruit X Blueberry
Great Garberville Pure (Reeferman) Thai X Afghani Hawaiian
Great White Shark (Green House) Super Skunk X White Widow
Green Devil (Tiki) Bambata X Shulam
Green Giant (Spice Brothers) Big Bud X Shiva Skunk
Green Goddess (GN03) Citral X Afghani Hawaiian X G13 Haze
Green Medicine (Brazilian Seed Company) Early Green X White Rhino
Green Spirit (Dutch Passion) Big Bud X Skunk #1
Grenadella (Afropips) Grenadine X Cinderella 99
Grenadine (Dr. Greenthumb) [Niagara X Shiva] X G13
Grimm White Shark (Brothers Grimm) Big Bud X Super Skunk
Guerrilla (A.C.E.) South African; Leshoto X Nepalese; Kathmandù Valley
Gypsy’s Kiss (Reeferman) White Widow X Petrolia Headstash

H
Hash Balls 2 (Goodhouse) Hash Plant X KGB
Hash Heaven (Soma) G13 Hashplant X G13 Haze X Lavender
Hash Khan (Effettoserra) Maroc X Dutch Skunk
Hash Plant (Seedsman) Hash Plant X Northern Lights #1
Hash Plant (Sensi) [Hashplant X Northern Lights #1] X Hashplant
Hashberry (Mandala) Landraces, N. India, Kashmir X ??
Haley’s Comet (Flying Dutchmen) Early Californian X Skunk #1
Hardcore (Secret Valley) primary Big Bud X Dj’s Blueberry
Hawaiian Goddess #3 (Motarebel) Hawaiian Pheno BC God Bud X Sweet Tooth #3
Hawaiian Indica (Sensi) Landraces: Hawaii X Northern Lights
Hawaiian Skunk (Seedsman) Hawaiian Indica X Skunk #1
Hawaiian Sativa (Federation) Landraces: Hawaii, Mauna Kea
Hawaiian Snow (Green House) [Hawaiian Haze X Pure Haze] X Neville’s Haze
Haze = Thai x Columbian x mexican x vietnamese?
Haze (BlueHemp) Haze19 X unknown Haze
Haze Mist (Flying Dutchmen) South Indian, Kerala X Original Haze
Haze Special (KC Brains) Neville’s Haze X K.C.606
Headband Diesel = [Super Skunk X Sensi Northern Lights] X Chem /dawg
Headstash (??) ?Indica Pheno from Herijuana?
Heavy Duty Fruity (THSeeds) Big Bud X Afghani Skunk
Hempstar (Dutch Passion) Skunk X Oasis X Haze
Herijuana (Woodhorse) Kentucky Outdoor X Headstash
Herijuana (Motarebel) Killer New Haven Strain X Petrolia Headstash
High Land (Goodhouse) [Jack Herer X White Widow] X KGB
Highend (Legends) Rene X Dj’s Blueberry
Highland Afghani (Reeferman) F1 Hybrid of 2 highland Afghani
Himalayan Gold (Green House) Landraces; Himalayan X South Indian
Hindu Kush (Sensi) Landraces; India, Hindu Kush Mountains
HOG, the (THSeeds) Afghani X Kush
Hollands Hope = Afghani x Skunk
Homegrown Fantasy (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Afghani X White Widow
Hoosier Hoot’n’Hollar (SSSC) Nacked Lady X Early Mexican Gold
Hubba Bubba (Capricorn) Blueberry X Cinderella 99
Humboldt Berry (Motarebel) Trainwreck X Blueberry
Huron (Dr. Greenthumb) Niagara X White Widow

I
Ice (Nirvana) Afghani X Skunk X Northern Lights X Shiva
Ice Princess (Brothers Grimm) Cinderella 88 X White Widow
Ice Queen (No Mercy) Master Ice X Valley Queen
Indian Haze (Seedsman) South Indian Kerala X Haze
Indian Skunk (Seedsman) South Indian Kerala X Skunk #1
Indigo (Vancouver Seeds) North African X Afghani Indica
Ingemars Punch (White Widow Web) Master Widow X Sweet Skunk
Island Bud (Great White North) Early Sativa X ?Early Sativa?
Island Lady (Amsterdam Marijuana) Purple Power X Master Kush
Island Sweet Skunk (Jordan of the Island) Sweet Pink Grapefruit X Big Skunk #1

J
J.J.’s Gold (Dr. Greenthumb) Millenium Bud X Acapulco Gold
Jack Flash (Sensi) Jack Herer X Super Skunk
Jack Frost (GoldenSeed) Jack Herer X White Widow X Northern Light #5
Jack Herer (Sensi) Skunk #1 X Northern Lights #5 X Haze
Jack The Ripper (Subcool) Jacks Cleaner P1 X Space Queen
JackHammer (Motarebel) SuperJack X BlockHead
Jackie O = Jack Candy (@ 87.5% line-bred) x Cali-Orange (also @ 87.5% line-bred)
Jacks Cleaner = Jack Herer x Lemon Thai
Jamaica (Hemcy) Lambsbread X [Skunk X Ruderalis]
Jamaican (Federation) Landraces; Jamaica X ??
Jamaican Pearl (Sensi) ?Marley’s Collie X Early Pearl?
Janis Special (Fleur du Mal) Silver Pearl X Blue Widow
Jillybean (Subcool) Orange Velvet X Space Queen
Jim Dandy (Motarebel) Jim Wakeford X Killa Queen
Johnny Blaze (Chimera) Neville’s Haze X Blueberry
Juicy Fruit = Golden Triangle Thai x Afghani [or] Kush
Juicy Russian = Juicy Fruit X AK47

K
K2 Special (No Mercy) [K2 X Mexican Haze] X Victory
K.C.33 (KC Brains) Afghani X Haze X Ukrainian strain
K.C.36 (KC Brains) Indica from Spain X K.C.606
K.C.42 (KC Brains) New Zealand Best X K.C.639
K-Train (Woodhorse) K2 X Arcata Trainwreck
Kahuna (Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X Jack Herer X Afghani
Hawaiian
Kali’s Bliss (Reeferman) Reeferman’s Cambodian X Cinderella 99
Kali Mist = Haze x Skunk hybrid / cambodian sativa x silver haze
Kali Spice (Dman) Kali Mist X Silver Spice
Kalichakra (Mandala) Crystal Queen X White Satin
Kanasuta (Canadian Seed Co.) Aurora Beaurealis X Cinderella 99
Kariba Surprise (African Seeds) Landraces; Zambezi River
Karpov (Blue Grass) Blue Hen X Blueberry
Kasparov (Blue Grass) Blue Kiev X Blueberry
Kerala Krush (Flying Dutchmen) South Indian, Kerala X Skunk #1
Kerala Skunk (Dutch Passion) South Indian, Kerala X Skunk #1
KGB (Vancouver Seeds) Afghani X Burmese
Khola (Dutch Passion) [Thailand X Brazil] X ?an early dutch strain
Kill Bill (Reservoir) Killer Queen X William’s Wonder
Killa Kush (Motarebel) Bubba Kush X Killa Queen
Killer Apollo (Reservoir) Killer Queen X Apollo 11
Killer Kristalls (Motarebel) Jim Dandy X Black Kat
Killer Newhaven (??) Sativa Pheno from Herijuana
Killer Queen (Reservoir) Airborne’s G13 X Cinderella 99
Killer Queen 2 (Canadian Seed Co.) G13 X Cinderella 99
Killian (Motarebel) Killa Queen X NYC Diesel
Killin Garberville (BC Seed Co.) Hawaiian Sativa X Afghani Indica
King’s Kross (Reeferman) [King X Charles Kush] X King
Kiwi (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Landraces; New Zealand
Klingonberry (Dutch Flowers) Bubblegum X Sagarmatha’s Blueberry X Aloha 98
Klitschkov = Blue Kiev x Sudden Impact
Kolinahr (Enterprise) Vulcan X White Widow
Kong (Laughing Moon) Kong X [White Russian X BubbleGum]
Kranial Kush (Motarebel) Bubba Kush X [Bubba Kush X Yumbolt]
Kush Berry (Motarebel) Bubbleberry X [Bubba Kush X Yumbolt]
Kushage (THSeeds) O.G. Kush X S.A.G.E.
Kwik Kali (Sagarmatha) Western Winds X Stuporsonic

L
L.A. Confidential (DNA Genetics) O.G. L.A. Affie X Afghani
L.S.D. (BOG) Lifesaver X NYC Diesel
La Nina (Mr. Nice) Haze X White Widow
Lambada (Reeferman) Brazilian X Highland Nepalese
Lambsbread Skunk (Dutch Passion) Jamaican Lambsbread X Skunk #1
Lasqueti Haze (BC Bud Depot) ?? X Skunk
Lavender (Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X Afghani Hawaiian
Lebanese (BlueHemp) Landraces, Lebanese
Leda Uno (KC Brains) [secret Brazilian strain X K.C.33] X [Leda X K.C.606]
Legends Ultimate Indica (Legends) Ortega X Sweet Tooth
Lemon Bud (Canadian Gen.) Monster Bud X Lemon Joy
Lemon Chemo (Woodhorse) BC Chemo X Ontario Chemo
Lemon Freeze (Subcool) Jacks Cleaner X [Jacks Cleaner X Blueberry]
Lemon Kush = Master Kush x Lemon Joy
Lemon Skunk (Jordan of the Island) Citrus Skunk X Skunk #1
Leshaze (Canna Biogen) Landraces; Lesotho X [Skunk X Haze]
Lieu Hanh (Spice Brothers) Vietnamese X Neville’s Haze
Lieu Hanh 99 (Spice Brothers) Lieu Hanh X Cinderella 99
Life Star (BOG) Lifesaver X Sensi Star
Lifesaver (BOG) Jack Cleaner X Dj’s Blueberry X BogBubble
Lime Chemo (Woodhorse) Ontario Chemo X BC Chemo X Timewarp X Citrus
Lionheart (Almighty) African Sativa X North American Genetics
Lone Ranger (SSSC) Nepali Sativa X Michiocan Mexican Sativa
Love Potion #1 (Reeferman) [G13 x Santa Marta Columbian Gold] X Santa Marta Columbian Gold
Love Potion 9 (Joker) Love Potion 5 X Northern Lights
Low P.T. (Reeferman) Oregon Purple Thai X LowRyder
Lowland Afghani (Reeferman) 2 Lowland Afghani strains
Lowrider (Joint Doctors) Northern Light #2 X William Wonder X unknown hybrid

M
M-39 (SSSC) Skunk #1 X Basic #5
M3 (Sunshine) [AK47 X Haze] X Hashplant
Mako Shark (Motarebel) Black Widow X Great White Shark
Mal’Sp (Afropips) Malawi Gold X Silver Pearl
Malaki (Afropips) Malawi Gold X White Russian
Malawi 99(Afropips) Malawi Gold X Cinderella 99
Malawi Gold (African Seeds) Landraces; Malawi, Lake Malawi
Malberino (Afropips) Malberry X Grenadine
Malberry (Afropips) Malawi Gold X Blueberry
Malibu (Chimera) Cali-O X Blue Domino
Magic Carpet Ride (Reeferman) Headstash X Cambodian
Magic Crystal (White Widow Web) White Widow X California Orange
Mandarin Punch (Juan Moore) Killer Queen X Tangerine
Manga Rosa (Brazilian Seed Company) Landraces from the 70s; Brazil
Mango (KC Brains) Afghani X KC33
Mangolian Indica (Sagarmatha) = Afghani Skunk X Afghani X Northern Lights
Manolito 1 (Goodhouse) White Rhino X KGB
Marley’s Collie (Sensi) 2 Jamaicains différents
Martian Mean Green (DNA Genetics) Sharks Breath X G13 Haze
Master Ice (No Mercy) Mind Bender X Northern Lights
Master Kush (Black Label) Hindu Kush X Skunk
Masterkush (Dutch Passion) Hindu Kush X Hindu Kush
Matanuska Mist (Sagarmatha) Matanuska Tundra X Grey Mist
Maui Mist (BC Seed Co.) Hawaiian Indica X Haze
Mayhem (Motarebel) Russian Indica Clone X Blockhead
Mazar (Dutch Passion) Afghanistan, Mazar-I-Shariff X Skunk #1
MCW (NCGA) Mighty Mite X Chemo X White Widow
Medicine Man (Mr. Nice) [Brazilian Sativa X South Indian] X Afghani
MedMaster (Reeferman) UBC Chemo X Reeferman’s G
Mendocino Madness (THSeeds) Northern Cali Madness X “a parent of Kwiksilver”
Merlins Dream (White Widow Web) Master Widow X Afghani
Merville Blueberry (BC Bud Depot) Blueberry X Grapefruit
Mexican Sativa (Sensi) Mexican, Oaxacan X Pakistani Hashplant X Durban
Mighty Haze Candy (Dutch Flower) Mighty Chemo Widow X Uber Candy Haze
Mikush (Federation) Mikado X Kush
Mind Bender (KC Brains) KC2 X KC33 X Afghani
Mindfuck (Reservoir) New York City Diesel X DTC 99
Mississippi Sweet Bud (JOTI) Kush X Burmese
Mississippi Queen (Juan Moore) Princess 75 X Airborne G13
Misty (Positronics) Sister of White Widow
MK Ultra (THSeeds) G13 X O.G. Kush
Moon Shadow (Joey Weed) [Chemo x White Rhino] X Cinderella 99
Moonflower (Canadian Seed Co.) Cinderella 99 X Apollo 11
Morning Dew (Dman) Endless Sky X Cinderella 99
Mountain Jam (Chimera & Dj Short) Soulshine X Blueberry
Mountain Lion (Almighty) Rock Bud X Lionheart
MP5K (Dr. Chronic) AK X Afghani
Mr. Bubble (THSeeds) Kali Mist X Bubblegum
Mr. Majestyx (Afropips) Malberry X Cinderella 99
Mr. Nice (Sensi) G13 X Hash Plant

N
Neon Super Skunk (Subcool) Super Skunk X Black Russian
Nepal Baba (Dr. Atomic) [Landraces; Nepal X Northern Lights] X Northern Lights
Nepalese Grizzly (Kootenay Mountain) [Dutch Treat x Nepali] X Chemo
Nepalese Jam (Ace) Nepalese Kathmandu Sativa X Jamaican Blue Mountain1984
Nepali (BlueHemp) Landraces; Nepal, Baglung
Neville’s Haze (Green House) Pure Haze X Northern Lights
Neville’s Haze Hybrid (Female Seeds) Neville’s Haze X Jack Herer
New Killer Queen (Juan Moore) Airborne G13 X Cinderella 99
New Purple Cross (Mr. Blue) Afghani X Jamaican
New Purple Power (Nirvana) Holland’s Hope X Skunk #1
New York City Diesel (Soma) Mexican Sativa X Afghani
Nigerian (Afropips) Landraces, Nigeria
Nirvana Special (Nirvana) Jock Horror X Landraces; Mexico, Oaxaca
No Mercy Special (No Mercy) [Santa Maria X Maxican Haze] X Victory
North #1 (Hill Temple) Cinderella 99 X Blue Kiev
Northern Berry (Peak Seeds & Hygro) Northern Lights #5 X Blueberry
Northern Bright (Nirvana) Northern Lights X Haze
Northern Dream (Reeferman) [Kodiak Gold Thunderfuck x Northern Lights #5] X Nothern Light #5
Northern Lights (BC Bud Depot) Atomic Northern Light X Northern Lights #6
Northern Lights #1 (SSSC) Afghani IBL
Northern Lights #2 (SSSC) Hindu Kush X Thai
Northern Lights #9 (Sagarmatha) Northern Lights X White Widow X Durban
Northern Skunk (Peak Seeds) Northern Light #5 X Skunk
Nutcruncher (Reeferman) Airborne G13 X Petrolia Headstash
NYC Diesel (Soma) Sour Diesel X Afghani Hawaiian

O
Oasis (Dutch Passion) an advancement of Northern Lights #2
Odin’s Hammer (Reeferman) Kodiak Gold X Acapulco Gold
Oké 47 (Sensi) Afghani X ??
Optimus Prime (BC Bud Depot) BC Sweet Tooth X Mayne Island Indica
Orange Apollo (Reservoir) [1977 Aeric Cali-O X Apollo 11] X Apollo 11
Orange Chemo (Woodhorse) BC Chemo X Ontario Chemo X Timewarp X California Orange
Orange Crush = AE77 CaliO X DJ Shorts Blueberry
Orange Peako Cambodian (Reeferman) Nepalese Indica X Cambodian Sativa
Orange Spice (Dman) Double G X White Widow
Orangina (Blue Grass) California Orange X Blue Bubblejuice
Orient Express (A.C.E.) Vietnam Black X Chinese; Yunnan
Original Diesel = (SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem
Original Gangsta Kush = White Lable Bubble Gum X Sensi Seed Hindu Kush
Original Green (Brazilian Seed Company) Landraces from the 80s; Brazil, Sao Paulo
Original Haze (Seedsman) [Mexican x Columbian] X Thai X South Indian Kerala
Original Highway Delight ( High Quality) Northern Light X Skunk
Original Strawberry Diesel (Reservoir) Strawberry Couch X Sour Diesel
Ortega Indica #1 = Ortega Indica x Kush Hybrid 1.2

P
Pakalolo (Sativa Seed Bank) Landraces; Hawaii, Maui X Skunk #1
Pakistani (BlueHemp) Landraces, Pakistan
Panama (A.C.E.) [Panama 1974 X Panama] X Panama; Canary Island
Panama Powerhouse (Dman) Panama Red X AK-47
Panama Punch (Cannabis Pros) Panama Green X Neville’s Haze
Papaya (Nirvana) Citral #13 X Ice #2
Passion Queen (??) Grapefruit X BC Grapefruit
Passion #1 (Dutch Passion) = Amstel Gold
Peak 19 (Sagarmatha) Stonehedge X Matanuska Tundra
Phnom Phen (Reeferman) Thai X Haze X Cambodian
Pine Tar Kush (Tom Hill) Pakistani IBL
Pineapples Punch (Flying Dutchmen) Real McCoy X Skunk #1
Pink Candy (Mr. Blue) Stinky Pinky X Cotton Candy
Pink Widow (Effettoserra) [Afghani X South Indian] X Purple Widow
Platinum (Afropips) Amstel Gold X Silver Pearl
Pollypak (SSSC) Pollyanna X Pakistani Sativa
Potent Purple (Reeferman) Oregon Purple Thai X ?California Indica?
Power House (Hill Temple) Deep Chunk X Cinderella 99
Power Plant (Dutch Passion) Landraces; South Africa
Princess 50 (Mr. Soul) Princess X [Shiva Skunk X Jack Herer]
Princess 75 (Mr. Soul) Princess X Princess 50
Princess 88 aka Cinderella 88 (Mr. Soul) Princess X Princess 75
Princess Diesel (Reservoir) Ice Princess X Sour Diesel
Puna Budder (THSeeds) some Hawaiian & some Afghani
Purple Czar (Motarebel) Black Russian X The Black “aka Burmese”
Purple Lightning (BC Seed Co.) Purple Indica X Northern Lights #5
Purple Power (Amsterdam Marijuana) Holland’s Hope X Skunk #1
Purple Skunk (Dutch Passion) Purple #1 X Early Skunk
Purple Thai (??) Oaxaca Gold X Chocolate Thai
Pyramid (White Widow Web) White Widow X [Haze X Skunk]

Q
Quick Mist Diesel (Reservoir) Kali Mist X Mighty Mite X Double Sour Diesel v2

R
Raccoon / Rocky (Canadian Seed Co.) Afghani X Columbian Gold
Real McCoy, the (Flying Dutchmen) Skunk #1 X South Indian Sativa
Reclining Buddha (Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X Holland’s Hope
ReCON (DNA Genetics) Mutant L.A. Confidential X Cannadential
Red Congolese (Reeferman) Congolese Sativa X [Mexican X Afghani]
Red Devil (Greenhouse) Afghani X Afghani Skunk
Red Haze (??) Neville’s Haze X Panama Red
Red Horse (Goodhouse) [Jack Herer X Top 44] X KGB
Red Sativa (Brazilian Seeds) Landraces; Brazil
Red Widow 13 (Dman) [G13 X Black Widow] X Panama Red
Redhaired Sonja (BlueHemp) [Afghani X Thai] X [Thai X Brazil]
Reefer Madness (Reeferman) Mexican a.k.a Blackseed X G13
Reeferman’s G (Reeferman) Airborne G13 X [Airborne G13 x Santa Marta Columbian Gold]
Reeferman’s Herijuana (Reeferman) SSSC’s Herijuana Sativa pheno X SSSC’s Herijuana Indica pheno
Reeferman’s Northern Light (Reeferman) Northern Lights #1 X Reeferman’s Northern Lights #5
Reeferman’s Sour Diesel (Reeferman) Sour Diesel X Kush
Reeferman’s Space Queen (Reeferman) Romulan X Cinderella 99
Remus (Federation) Island Sweet Skunk X Romulan
Renatta (A.C.E.) North East Brazilian Sativa X Cambodia Haze
RFK = NL X Shiva
Rheingold (Nova) Sensistar X Black Domina
Rock Bud “aka Soma A+”(Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X Afghani Hawaiian
Rock Star (Bong Guru) Sensi Star X Rock Bud
Rocklock (DNA Genetics) Warlock X RockStar
Romberry (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Romulan X Blueberry
Romberry (BCGA) Romulan X Blueberry
Rombolt (Motarebel) Romulan X Yumbolt
Romulan = OG Kush x Afghani
Romulan (Federation) California X [White Whino X White Rhino]
Romulan Haze (Next Generation) Super Silver Haze X Romulan
Royal Hawaiian (Reeferman) Hawaiian Indica X Hawaiian Sativa
Royal Orange (Flying Dutchmen) Skunk #1 X California Orange
Ru-Pa (HD Canadian) Cotton Candy X Heavy Duty Fruity
Ruderalis = Landraces, Russia
Ruderalis Sativa (SSSC) Ruderalis X [Thai x Mexican]

S
S.A.G.E. (THSeeds) Big Sour Holy X Afghani
SabreTooth (Motarebel) Sweet Tooth #3 X Northern Light
Sacra Frasca (Dutch Passion) Powerplant X Skunk Passion
Sadhu (Mandala) [?? X ??] X Landraces, N. India
Sage & Sour (THSeeds) S.A.G.E. X Sour Diesel
SandStorm (Canna Biogen) Landraces; Pakistan, Chitral X Landraces; Morocco, Arabene
Sangoma (Afropips) [Malawi X Silver Pearl] X Blueberry
Sanug (Canadian Seed Co.) Thai X Cambodian
Sapphire Star (Jordan of the Island) Blue Hawaiian X God Bud
Satori (Mandala) Landraces; Nepalese X ??
Schnazzleberry (Chimera) Blue Domino X Shishkaberry
Senor Garcia (Reeferman) Oregon Purple Thai X Panama Red
Sensitron (Almighty) Jack Herer X Sensi Star
Shagadellic (GN03) Indian Sativa X Skunk
Shaman (Dutch Passion) Purple #1 X Skunk
Shanti Devi (Tiki) Afghani X ??
Sharks Breath (DNA Genetics) Great White Shark X Jamaican Lambsbread
Sheherazade (Paradise) Afghan X ?Mostly Sativa?
Shenzhou (Canadian Seed Co.) Sugar Klingon X Cinderella 99
Shiesel (Bong Guru) Shiva X NYC Diesel
Shiskeberry = [Red & Yellow Afghani's] x Dj Short Blueberry [male]
Shirin Gol (Herbaria) Landraces; Tadjikistan
Shirin Mango (Herbaria) Shirin Gol X Afghan
Shit (Mr. Nice) the Original “Afghani X Skunk” (SSSC’s?)
Shiva (Dr. Atomic) Afghani X Atomic Northern Lights X Super Crystal
Shiva Shanti II (Sensi) Garlic Bud X Skunk X Afghani
Shiva Skunk (Sensi) Skunk #1 X Northern Lights #5
Shock (Mr. Nice) White Widow X Skunk #1
Silver Blue (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Silver Pearl X Blueberry
Silver Dream (BlueHemp) Purple Dream X Swiss Sativa X Monstera
Silver Haze{sensi} = Silver Pearl x Haze
Silver Pearl (Sensi) Early Pearl X Skunk #1 X Northern Lights
Silver Spice (Dman) Endless Sky X Orange Spice
Silverado (BlueHemp) Silver Dream X Northern Lights #2
Skunk = Columbian Gold x [Afghani x Acapulco Gold]
Skunk{sacred seeds co.} = afghani x columbian x thai
Skunk #1 (Dutch Passion) Afghani X Thai X Colombian Gold
Skunk #5 (Effettoserra) [Afghani X Acapulco Gold x Colombian Gold] X Dutch Skunk
Skunk Berry (Peak Seeds) Skunk X Blueberry
Skunk Haze (Seedsman) Skunk #1 X Original Haze
Skunk Kush (Sensi) Hindu Kush X Skunk #1
Skunk Power (Effettoserra) “Big yielding phenotype” X White Afghani
Skunkaberry (Reeferman) Newberry X Chinese Indica
Skunkberry (Cannabis Pros) Blueberry X Skunk #1
Sky Dog (Willy Jack) Jack Herer X Williams Wonder X Haze
Skywalker (Dutch Passion) Mazar X Blueberry
Slyder (Sagarmatha) Landraces: Afghanistan X Northern Lights
Smoka Cola (Dman) Star Gazer X [G13 X Black Widow]
Smokey Bear (Dutch Passion) Masterkush X KC 33
Snow Slyder (Joker) Afghani X Northern Lights
Snow White (Cannabis Pros) Northern Light #5 X Cinderella 99
Somango (Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X Jack Herer
Somanna (Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X C. Chinensis X Afghani Hawaiian
Somativa (Soma) Super Skunk X Big Skunk Korean X Jack Herer
Somaui (Soma) Hawaiian Sativa X G-13 Haze
Sour Diesel (Reservoir) Mexican Sativa X Chemo
Sour Diesel (??) ?DNL X Daywrecker?
Sour Diesal = Mass.Super Skunk x Chem {dawg}
Sour Diesel = [(SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem] X DNL
Sour Mist (Reservoir) Kali Mist X Double Sour Diesel
Sour Queen (Reservoir) Killer Queen X Double Sour Diesel
Sour Saver = [Sour Diesel 1.5 x Lifesaver] x [Sour Saver v1 x Lifesaver] x Sour Saver v1 x Sour Saver v1
Sour Turbo (Motarebel) Double Sour Diesel v2 X Sour Diesel v2.5
Sour Wonder (Reservoir) Williams Wonder X Sour Diesel
Southern Lights (Delta 9) N.Y.C Diesel X Sensi Star
Space Queen (Reeferman) Romulan X Cinderella 99
Space Queen F2 (Subcool) Romulan X Cinderella 99
Spacetooth #3 (Subcool) Sweet Tooth #3 X Space Queen
Special AK (Goodhouse) AK-47 X KGB
Speed Queen (Mandala) Landraces, N. India, Himachal Pradesh X ??
Speedball (Reservoir) Sensi Star X DTC 99
Spellbound (Dman) William’s Wonder X Sour Diesel
Spice (Mr. Nice) Hawaiian Indica X Hawaiian Sativa
Spontanica (KC Brains) Secret Project #1 X KC33
Sputnik 1.0 (Subcool) Apollo 13 X Black Russian
Sputnik 2.0 (Subcool) Sputnik 1.0 X Apollo 13
SSSC M39 = [Basic #5] northern light #5 X skunk #1
Star Chief (White Widow Web) Master Widow X Himalaya Haze
Star Gazer (Delta 9) [Warlock X AK-47] X Sensi Star
Star Gazer (Dman) Endless Sky X Bubbleberry
Starlight (White Widow Web) Master Widow X Northern Lights
Starwalker (Canadian Seed Co.) [Romulan x Cinderella 99] X Cinderella 99
Sticky Sista (Herbaria) Afghanistan, Hindu Kush X South African, Ciskei
Stonehedge (Sagarmatha) Cambodian Sativa X Western Winds
Stoney Baloney (Juan Moore) [Cinderella 99 X Kali Mist] X Tangerine
Stoney High (White Widow Web) Master Widow X Super Skunk
Strawberry Cough = Strawberry Fields x Haze
Strawberry Spice = Strawberry Cough x Jabberwocky
Sudden Impact (Blue Grass) [Mr. Nice G13 X Hashplant] X AK-47
Sugar Babe (Paradise) Afghani X Swiss White Strain
Sugar Baby (NCGA) Vic High’s Orange Crush X G13 Blue Widow
Sugar Blossoms = white widow [lemon pheno] x ???
Sugar Daddy (Capricorn) California Indica X Sugar Blossom
Sugar Klingon (Dutch Flowers) Klingonberry X Fig Widow Queen
Sugar Klingon II (Canadian Seed Co.) Klingonberry X Fig Widow Queen
Sugar Loaf (Canna Biogen) Landraces; Pakistan X Capricho
Sugarwarp (Reeferman) Texada Timewarp X Burmese
Summer Queen (No Mercy) Everest Queen X Northern Light
Sunshine #2 (Hill Temple) Sunshine X Deep Chunk
Sunshine Daydream (Dman) Silver Spice X AK-47
Super Afghani (World Wide Seeds) Afghani #1 X Super Skunk
Super Dawg = Dawg X 86’Sensi Super Skunk (sources: cannabible)
Super Green (Brazilian Seed Company) Early Green X Jack Herer
Super Haze (Dutch Passion) Original Haze X Skunk #1
Super Impact (Blue Grass) Sudden Impact X Super Silver Haze
Super Kimo (Brazilian Seed Company) UBC Chemo X Jack Herer X Haze Special
Super Kush (BC Seed Co.) Hindu Kush X Northern Lights #5
Super Sativa Plus (THC Seeds) Hawaiian Sativa X BC Biker Bud
Super Silver Haze (Mr. Nice) [Northern Lights #5 x N. Haze] X [Skunk #1 x N. Haze]
Super Silver Haze{greenhouse} = Super Skunk x Silver Pearl x Haze
Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze (Reservoir) Super Silver Haze X Sour Diesel
Super Silver Spice (Dman) Endless Sky X Silver Spice
Super Skunk (Sensi) Skunk #1 X Afghani
Super Star (Delta 9) Sensi Star X Sensi Star
Super Sweet Cindy 05 (BOG) [Sweet Tooth #3 X Cinderella 99] X BogBubble
Swazi Redbeard “a.k.a Swazi Rooibaard” (Afropips) Landraces; Swaziland, Nkomati
Swazi Skunk (SeedsMan) Swazi X Skunk #1
Sweet Apollo (Reservoir) SweetTooth #3 X Apollo 11
Sweet Cindy (BOG) Sweet Tooth #3 X Cinderella 99
Sweet Dreams (Almighty) Lionheart X ??
Sweet Dreams (KC Brains) Californian Big Bud Skunk X K.C.606
Sweet Tooth 1.1 (DJ Short & Spice of Life) [Sweet Pink Grapefruit X Dj’s Blueberry] X Grapefruit
Sweet Treat (Reeferman) Dutch Treat X Californian IBL
Swiss Miss (Nirvana) Afghani X ?Ruderalis?
SwissXT (KC Brains) Mr. Swiss X Double K.C. private project

T
T.N.R. (KC Brains) Thai X Double K.C.2
Taco (??) Ortega X Cinderella 99
Tanzanian Magic (African Seeds) Landraces; Southern Tanzania
Taskenti (Canna Biogen) Landraces; Uzbekistan
Thai Lights (Dr. Atomic) Landraces; Thailand, Nakan Pranom X Northern Lights
Thai-Tanic (Flying Dutchmen) Thai X Skunk
The Crystal Ship (Reeferman) Kali Mist X Kodiak Gold
The Dope (AAA Seeds) Northern Lights #5 X Haze
The Other Crystal Ship (Reeferman) Kali Mist X Northern Light #5
The Pure = This is the original Skunk#1
The Real McCoy = Haze x Skunk [60/40]
Thumper (Juan Moore) Trix X G13
Thunder Fuckin Wonder (Reservoir) Matanuska Thundra X William’s Wonder
Thunder Pearl (Reeferman) Early Pearl X Kodiak Gold
Thunderfuck Diesel (Reservoir) Matanuska Tundra X Sour Diesel
Timanfaya Devil (Afropips) [[Cape Verde X Congolese] X Nepalese] X Congolese
Time Bomb (Legends) Texada Timewarp X Blueberry
Titan (Federation) Romulan X BC Big Bud
Titan’s Haze (Flying Dutchmen) Skunk #1 X Original Haze
T.N.T = [Northern Lights x Skunk] x [Afghani #1] x [Afghani x Skunk]
Top 44 (Homegrown Fantaseeds) Skunk X ?Vicking?
Top Lady (HD Canadian) First Lady X Top 44
Toxic Blue (Motarebel) Blue Kronic X Killian
Trainwreck (Woodhorse) Mexican X Colombian X Afghani
Trainwreck = Afghani x [Lowland Thai x Mexican/columbian]
Trance (Dutch Passion) Skunk Indica X ??
Transkei Green (African Seeds) Landraces; South Africa, Transkei
Tribal Vision (Afropips) Malberry X [Sweet Tooth #3 X Grapefruit X Congo Nepalese]
Triple Afghan Slam (Reeferman) Combine 3 Afghani strains
Trix (Juan Moore) [Blueberry X Northern Light] X Northern Light
TRC Devestator = Garlic Bud x Skunk
TRC Devestation = [Shiva {garlic bud} x Afghani] x Skunk
TRC Tarantula = ???
TRC Texas Mystic = Alaskan Trainwreck x Sweet Tooth #4
Tropical Timewarp (Reeferman) Punta Roja Colombian Red X African Timewarp
Tropical Treat Special (Brazilian Seed) Colombian Gold X Colombian Jack X Haze Special X Skunk #1
Tropicana#1 = Tropical Treat mother (mostly Colombian) X Sweet Tooth BX2 P1
Turtle Power (Amsterdam Marijuana) Purple Power X Early Girl
Twisted Fruit (Motarebel) Grapefruit X [Killer Queen X NYC Diesel]

U
Uber Candy Haze = Vietnamese Black x White Widow Thai and the Hawaiian x Neville's Haze
Ultimate Indoor (Capricorn) Northern Lights X Matanuska Thunder
Ultimate Moonshine = LUI x Blue Moonshine
Ultimate Peak (Capricorn) Peak 19 X Bubbleberry
Ultra Skunk (Dutch Passion) Swiss Skunk X Skunk

V
Valley Queen (No Mercy) Everest Queen X Silver Pearl
Very White (Celebrity) White Widow X Haze
Viet Combo (Spice Brothers) Vietnamese X Vietnamese Black
Viper (Reeferman) Blackseed X Burmese
Voodoo (Dutch Passion) Thai X ??
Vortex (Subcool) Apollo 13 X Space Queen

W
Wakeford (Reeferman) [Skunk #1 X Airborne G-13] X UBC Chemo
Waldo (Apothecary) Pez X Purple Cherry
Warlock (Magus) [Skunk X Skunk] X Afghani
Warpberry (Patch Works) Texada Timewarp X Purple Pineberry
White Cinderella (Canadian Seed Co.) BRG White Widow X Cinderella 99
White Crystal (THC Seeds) White Lightning X Super Crystal
White Flow (Capricorn) White Widow X Flow
White Grizzly (Kootenay Mountain) Dutch Treat X Nepali X Chemo
White Haze = ??Juicy Widow x Blue Hen??
White Himalayan Haze (GN03) White Widow X Himalayan Haze
White KC (KC Brains) White Widow X Afghani X KC33
White Light (Soma) Bubblegum X White Widow
White Light (Willy Jack) Northern Lights X White Widow
White Lightning (BC Seed Co.) Northern Lights #5 X White Widow
White Mr. Nice (Blue Grass) White Haze X [Mr. Nice G-13 X Hashplant]
White Rhino (Green House) Afghan X Brazilian X South Indian, Kerala
White Rose (High Quality) Skunk X White Widow
White Russian (Serious) AK-47 X White Widow
White Satin (Mandala) Landraces; N. India, Punjab X ??
White Star (Capricorn) Sensi Star X White Widow
White Star (Delta 9) New York City Diesel X Sensi Star
White Tusk (Goodhouse) [Hawaii X Big Bud] X KGB
White Widow (Green House) Brazilian X South Indian
White Widow = Brazilian x Indian
White Widow = First Lady{mullimbimby madness} x Shiva Skunk
White Willow (Soma) White Widow X Afghain Hawaiian
Widow Warrior (White Widow Web) Master Widow X Durban
Widowrella (Canadian Pros) Cinderella 99 X White Widow
Willie D (Reservoir) William’s Wonder X New York City Diesel
Willijuana (Reeferman) Vietnamese X Burmese
Willy Jack (Willy Jack) Williams Wonder X Jack Herer
Willy Nelson (Reeferman) Vietnamese X Highland Nepalese
Wonder 99 (Reservoir) Cinderella 99 X William’s Wonder
Wonder Diesel (Reservoir) William’s Wonder X Sour Diesel
Wonder Haze (Reservoir) Super Silver Haze X William’s Wonder
Wonderberry (Sagarmatha) Bubbleberry X William’s Wonder

Y
Yarkoum (Tiki) Landraces; Pakistan, Chitral Valley X “secret F1”
Yellow Brick Wall (Juan Moore) Afghani X Columbian Gold
Yumbolt (Sagarmatha) Landraces: Afghanistan X Landraces: Himalaya

Z
Zagorsk (Canadian Seed Co.) Killer Queen X Sugar Klingon
Zamal (GN03) Landrace; La Reunion

...to name a few ;-)

These plants most likely have been crossed with a 'skunk' plant at some point. But they have been renamed.

You get land races of cannabis that grow naturally around the world. Africa, Asia, Caribbean, This will have been the original plants used in crosses way back in the 70's. Before all the genetics were messed up and all over the place like now a days.

Afgan (indica) - Short plant in hight, lots of crystals on it, so it has been chosen to be used to make hash with for thousands of years

Thai's (Sativa) - Very tall plant, different type of high from smoking an indica, takes a lot longer to grow than an indica

I dont know what im trying to get at here,

Most of the strains mentioned above will be a mix of Sativa and Indica. Say 30% sativa, 70% indica (to keep it quick, short, but still have some of the trippy effect from the sativa)


So what gets me angry is the media labeling any cannabis plant grown indoors a SKUNK plant. IT could be a HAZE/Thai which are sativa who have [B]NO skunk in them.

Like someone mentioned above,

The media and government, deffintly make out that this skunk is EXTREME GENETICALLY MODIFIED CANNABIS. its not..lol.

I wrote a paper on this once, i could go on for days. ;-)

[drhemp]

And I can thoroughly recommend New York City Diesel.

Please do not believe the Daily Mail lies about skunk; I've been selling cannabis seeds in the UK since 2001 and have my own seedbank, so I do know what I'm talking about. There are probably in excess of 5000 seed name strains, but in reality no more than 200 genuine strains of MJ, many of which will have very similar genetics. The Cannabis Cup is a con really, and the winners are decided by how much money the seed companies spend on advertising in High Times. It's a money making operation mainly for American stoner tourists in Amsterdam.

Happy New Year.

Dr Hemp
PS - Please take a look at the Legalise Cannabis Alliance Xmas Newsletter, and if you are not already a member, please join! http://www.lca-uk.org/newsletter_xmas08.pdf

[dmt head]

Meant to say in my last post, as I noticed some folk are like me just cant handle it anymore. I read this article about ten years ago in the new scientist magazine that when your a teenager you need a lot of dope to get stoned but as you get older you need less and less, whereas with alcohol and tobacco its the oppposite, older you get the more you need, makes sense.

I still think the weed going round, im in Uk, has got stronger plus my tolerance is down. I read this book called pot planet and the guy would go round the world seeing all the different hash scenes he could, said London was the worst btw He was talking to cultivators and they said due to crossbreeding it would just continue to get stronger and stronger, this was ten years ago, and it seems to be the case, in my experience.

[psych641]

Funny as topic. So many misnomers, bigbears and also utopian thinking.

As many have pointed out, skunk is actually a strain with a higher THC content. Theres actually hash level thc in some of the dutch blends, so dont think the street level is high at all. (It generally peaks around 10%, whereas dutch varieties go up to 40% ish). The 10% level varities have been around for thousands of years.

See cannabis is a pre-historic plant. It was here before we were. We discovered it in two seperate places and began breeding it, like we do with dogs. Thousands of years later we have indica and sativa etc.

Anyway, "skunk" mis-info aside.. Let me address a few more points.....

A plant or substance is inert. It does nothing, it sits there. The person smokes it, just like a person squeezes the trigger on a gun. Lets not take the person out of the moral equation please.

Pot is psycedelic. Thats both useful in ways yet unrecognised by mainstream, and can also be harmful to those un-prepared or unknowing. Its our responsibility as a culture, and as parents, to inform our kids about inner space. There are basic skills like grounding, cleansing, meditative focus, breathing etc, that can get you out of all the trouble a psycedelic, or even meditation itself, might get you into. If we taught our kids how to ground, and basic ancient spiritual techniques, then they could avoid psychosis/anxiety etc, learn deep lessons quicker, and perhaps be garnered some healthy respect for natures bounty.

What modern science fails to to agknowledge is that all conciousness, all perception arises first in the deep mind. This makes spiritual and shamanic techiniques very important in reality. I guess so long as they keep flashing ads at us, and keep us working 24/7, well never have the time to even notice!

Excessive, escapist use of pot often co-presents with lack of motivation. Ive been there. All i can say is, i never really wanted to be involved back then anyway. If someone uses something, clearly, to escape, one can bet there problems run deeper than the external behaviour. If someone is cutting, u dont blame the knife, or even the person. You look to help, to seek the core issues, or accept their journey, because we all experience realisations about our behaviour and attitudes over life - usually on our own.

I think there are amazing treasures in nature, and pot is one of those (not the only one by far). But we are a species at war with nature, we cannot, will not accept equality with it. We know better, by default.

Life is naturally full of dangers and hurdles, many of which (or most) are very risky compared with using plant drugs that are very time tested. If you cant prepare your kids for this kind of reality, your really just preparing them for your imagination, where everythings the way ud prefer it.

Again, western society is at odds with danger, pain, risk and death. It makes creepy villians of them, and avoids mentioning them (compared with the ancients who made gods and symbols of them). Parents are locked into a very unrealistic mentality via this thinking. May as well surround all children in cotton wads.

So to sum, western society is afraid of natural levels of risk, is afraid of nature, and also of the deep mind and by proxy personality. Hence, they will forever miss out on the glorious truth within.

I smoked pot. I had "psychosis". I learnt how to ground, discovered the hearts of all my emotional problems and their origins, as well as the nature of truth itself. I am thankful to drugs, for taking me from a in denial pain state, into an aware good state, but not without its own hurdles. I learn mega, from my years of drug use. Thank you mother nature, and farewell to my fair teachers.

I do smoke a little spice now when stressed which ive discovered has its own special properties. Being primarily made from lions tail extract, it strongly potentiates dreaming. It is however not psycedelic in the way of cannabis, more a trance inducer like blue lotus. I also find it less habituating.

Our society is so far from most basic realities, its pretty pointless even debating the topic of marijuana. Still, my vote is to legalise all non-manufactered drugs, not that this counts for much, seeing as we are ruled by the unknowing majority.

A better tack to tack would be to constantly attack science, psychology, education etc. Remove assuptions, remove argument.

good post :)

a note about spice though. i read something about it being banned - apparently its got chems in. some sort of synthetic cannabinoid.

[free_soul]

Skunk and weed are the same just skunk has more THC in.

The CIA created the hybrids made to overload the mind with THC.

blue berry was one of the first strains and obviously the ones over the years are widow cheese etc.

a good one is white rusian, i couldnt give it away faster lol

[thelyran]

...the great crime committed is that this plant is illegal.It could revolutionize
industry to less polluting forms.
Used in form of self-medication,this herb far exceeds any benefit that the poison alcohol could offer.
The former president,George H W Bush,who would imprison you for twenty years for a joint,that weighed no more than .5 of a gramme,has hemp to thank for saving his life during WW2 after his plane was shot down in the pacific,his parachute straps,were made of the fibres extracted from hemp.
The years of European imperial expansionism,was only possible through the utilisation of hemp for their sailing vessels.No raping and pillaging of the natives would be possible.
...preferring the psychedelic buzz than that hashy brown-stone,narcotic haze
that good skunk offers...try the breeds bubblegum or my favourite,Devil...with tiny little acorn shaped heads,very tight and hard.nice...
funny,the cops here in NSW,will bust you for a few home-grown plants...but turn a blind-eye if you sell,the wretched drug amphetamine...never got over that.
Marijuana,never,repeat,never caused mental illness.The problem already existed before patient met bong.Pot just bought the problem to the fore-front.Which manifested itself as delusions.Great trauma one may experience,is seldomly dealt with,buried deep within the mind...all it takes is one good stone to bring it out...
Not the plants fault,nor the victim...but the fault,of our apathetic material driven society,where the mental health professions exist only to back the profits of pharmaceutical companies.Never to support,nurture,or console
the needs of a patient...Thankyou for your time.regards Jason.

[lewi]

Consider the jobs that could be created if the plant was made legal maybe enough to bring the unemployment rate down by half with new opportunities for self employment to take flight not to mention factorys hiring to deal with the demand of hemp made materials etc ...

[ownoiz]

funny,the cops here in NSW,will bust you for a few home-grown plants...but turn a blind-eye if you sell,the wretched drug amphetamine...never got over that.

TPTB know that weed can undo their programming. They pushing very hard of recent times to stop its production.

If you see the amount of lights confiscated in the police headquarters in Adelaide...well if you turned them all on at once im sure you could see it from space...

Yet there is amphetamines everywhere...

Amphetamines just ultimately mess you up. TPTB dont care if people are hoovering that crap. They only care when they have competition cooking it..

George H W Bush,who would imprison you for twenty years for a joint

Double cha-ching. He makes some coin on the drug trade and the prison system..

Montana: Everyone who enters the joint thinks he is a man, but you know what he really is? A number-worth 30 grand a year. They want us to come back and what's worst, they have us lining up to get in, ese.
.

[simulacra]

Like some have said, it's just better quality these days. Few years ago it was mainly resin and bush sold cheap(grass cuttings if you will). The so called skunk was always there but was just an expensive purer form.

The cheap crap kinda died off for a variety of reasons and its mostly the better stuff thats sold in the UK. In other countries form my experience the better stuff was more prevalent years ago and UK got ripped off as usual with low grade rubbish.

Sadly, now the better stuff is more available, it gets tagged with being concocted in labs drenched in chemicals with all kinds of scaremongering trying to liken it to heroin or something.

[thelyran]

TPTB know that weed can undo their programming. They pushing very hard of recent times to stop its production.

If you see the amount of lights confiscated in the police headquarters in Adelaide...well if you turned them all on at once im sure you could see it from space...

Yet there is amphetamines everywhere...

Amphetamines just ultimately mess you up. TPTB dont care if people are hoovering that crap. They only care when they have competition cooking it..



Double cha-ching. He makes some coin on the drug trade and the prison system..

Montana: Everyone who enters the joint thinks he is a man, but you know what he really is? A number-worth 30 grand a year. They want us to come back and what's worst, they have us lining up to get in, ese.
.

...You're very aware to what's going down.Even Cathy O'Brien.former mind-control victim,sex-slave to afore mentioned president,hails the benefits of
pot to close the alters built in the fractured segments of her mind,slowly closing them and promoting forth the real consciousness that she is.
I must give the new PM some credit here,Kevin Rudd.When he took office,
I sent to him a letter requesting that marijuana become legal,to prevent the pulp-mill being built in Tasmania...and to secure our future industry viability.
Along with that letter,I gave him two dvd's containing the documentaries,The
Hemp Revolution, and The Future Of Food,an expose of the criminal activities
that The Monsanto seed company is involved with.Within three months,Northern NSW farmers have been allowed to grow hemp as a form of
industry.I hope,somehow,I had influence,convincing I can be.
South Australia changed it's tune,geez,in the early 90s till early 2002,I enjoyed a very steady diet of your finest grown weed.Now,I'm on the mid-north coast,I can only get bush-crap,I refuse to fund the local trade.Every couple of months,I make a trip of 300kms to score an ounze or two.Sometimes,I send money to a mental patient in Holland,$100 for 20 grammes including postage,but all things good come to an end.It got intercepted...
I will admit,I'm very experienced with all forms of drugs,except DMT,have been clean from pharmaceuticals,opiates,and dopamine aggravators for nearly 11-12 years now.The only one,I love,still hold in high regard,as creative
influential and stimulating is marijuana.I worked as a courier for the best pot-dealer in Newcastle for 8 years straight.I was hoping to get the job,of driving to SA,to pick=up 40 pounds a month,but things fell apart.The dealer and I only found out in the last days,our contact was a Rothchild,we were part of the elite society,did'nt even know it.Private Messaging is a place where I will accept good tips on where to go if you know...take care my aware friend

[thelyran]

Like some have said, it's just better quality these days. Few years ago it was mainly resin and bush sold cheap(grass cuttings if you will). The so called skunk was always there but was just an expensive purer form.

The cheap crap kinda died off for a variety of reasons and its mostly the better stuff thats sold in the UK. In other countries form my experience the better stuff was more prevalent years ago and UK got ripped off as usual with low grade rubbish.

Sadly, now the better stuff is more available, it gets tagged with being concocted in labs drenched in chemicals with all kinds of scaremongering trying to liken it to heroin or something.

...some idiot here a couple of months ago,was equating the well formed tri-chromes with the heads being dipped in fibre-glass resin,such is the ignorance about this plant...next they'll say black men will rape white women..
under it's influence...hmmm,probably works for DuPont.

[getmeout]

Skunk and weed are the same just skunk has more THC in.

The CIA created the hybrids made to overload the mind with THC.

blue berry was one of the first strains and obviously the ones over the years are widow cheese etc.

a good one is white rusian, i couldnt give it away faster lol

Do you actually think CIA made them? It's called selective breeding, all to get better weed with desired qualities. Simple as that.

All i can say is the stronger the better because you just smoke less of it to get you where you want.

At the end of the day it's just weed. Dont blame the CIA if you cant handle it ;)

[pduffy4]

In its Hemp form marijuana is very good for your health so I have read.

http://www.thehempshop.co.uk/

[psych641]

stronger isnt always better. Cannabinoid profile, timely harvesting & careful storage conditions make for a good high. If those 3 factors are good but its a tad weak, at least you can take more of it. But if its a strong-as-fuck generic commercial strain from a cartel factory & those qualities are overlooked, then the strength is irrelevant - your still stuck with a mediocre buzz.

E2A:

Another thing, just IMO. A plant that never sees the sun, feels the earth or completes its sexual cycle isnt a happy plant. Something will be missing when you use it.

Take imported brickweed - it might not have primo genetics or even be a bit stale, but i can taste the soil & the sunshine. So in that sense it is 'real' cannabis, to me. Its lived its life in gaia & not been born into a plant version of 'the matrix'.

[psych641]

...some idiot here a couple of months ago,was equating the well formed tri-chromes with the heads being dipped in fibre-glass resin,such is the ignorance about this plant...next they'll say black men will rape white women..
under it's influence...hmmm,probably works for DuPont.

'gritweed' is very real!

There was a big drought in the UK a few summers ago, following an epic police crack down on the vietnamese & other grow-ops. A lot of people had trouble getting weed at that time, or had to pay extra. Then... out of nowhere this stuff appears, and before long it seemed to be everywhere.

http://www.gritweed.co.uk/index.htm

[thelyran]

'gritweed' is very real!

There was a big drought in the UK a few summers ago, following an epic police crack down on the vietnamese & other grow-ops. A lot of people had trouble getting weed at that time, or had to pay extra. Then... out of nowhere this stuff appears, and before long it seemed to be everywhere.

http://www.gritweed.co.uk/index.htm

...to me that's sacreligeuos(spelling?)...I agree with your last post,proper curing and storage can bring out the ultimate in average weed...I have a wonderful,fool-proof video,how make good hash from weed

...I'll be honest,I am a former junkie.Self cured.

...I believe in the legalisation of all drugs,eradicating 90% of the cause for most crime,bar domestic disputes and violence.I stand for consultation over
criminalisation,it's a health issue,social and spiritual.
The money the govt,would make,besides on saving from over-crowded prisons,less need for surveilance and phone taps,less cops needed on the government pay-roles...the lot.
No overdoses would occur,as drugs would be distributed at a pure set standard,and all measurements considered,depending on tolerance,body-weight and mass...factored in.
I am pro-hemp and marijuana,but smoke very irregulary now.
I don't like schedule 8,drugs of a physical dependance,opiates and loathe speed...but will tolerate the legalisation,to prevent crime and corrupt cops making a fast buck.This thinking might save our grannies from being "rolled" or worse.I was lucky,I was a career junkie,had a full-time job,then moved on to
working for the man...and I never hurt anybody,nor performed perverse acts
like many others.Broke my heart,what I seen women forced to do...
Why I changed,I became a father...it was either die,or straighten up,took 5 years to feel normal...now you know,my kindest regards,from Jason.

[charas]

I really feel some things should be cleared up here,
allow me to drop my 2 centz.

Pretty much all cannabis plants grow crystals.
This is natural and is the resin which contain the cannabinoids.

YES "skunk" is different from other cannabis,
it has a different cannabinoid profile and is lacking or totally devoid of a type of cannabinoid called CBD which is ANTI-PSYCHOTIC.
This is a big reason why some people (especially those with sensitive minds) find skunk gives them a different (and often unpleasant) high.
The balance of nature has once again been disrupted.

How?

It has been very inbred in an artificial environment, under electric lights, grown in hydroponic factories in chemical solutions as clones etc and does not have the same mind opening effect as REAL Ganja.

It is more like a mind crushing effect and does not help us to wake up.

It does not effect the body in the same way and is not "sweet to the mind" like natural herb.

It does not lift the spirit or open ones third eye in the same way and allow us to read between the lines and see truth,
Which would instantly make us non-conforming to the system
(NOW ISN'T THAT A COINCEDENCE!?) read that again if you didn't clock.

It seems more like a dumbed down sort of buzz.

It is very different and this is obvious to anyone with a clear and sensitive enough mind.
Perhaps a mind that has not been dumbed down by telivision, too much refined sugar,
aspartame and other junk foods, anti deppressant pills and other tranquilizing drugs...:eek:

[disorder2k8]

the OP actually means Hemp, which is the fibre and can be made into an oil and is full of protein

please dont confuse terms

[curtaincat]

Here is lots of info,

I just skimmed the whole 10 pages , I dont think this was put in.

http://www.ratical.org/renewables/

[charas]

And here is a link to lots of info on the spiritual properties of the herb:

http://www.eoni.com/~visionquest/library.html

[curtaincat]

thanks, charas, your link is great info too!

[astrochicken]

YES "skunk" is different from other cannabis,
it has a different cannabinoid profile and is lacking or totally devoid of a type of cannabinoid called CBD which is ANTI-PSYCHOTIC.
This is a big reason why some people (especially those with sensitive minds) find skunk gives them a different (and often unpleasant) high.
The balance of nature has once again been disrupted.

How?

It has been very inbred in an artificial environment, under electric lights, grown in hydroponic factories in chemical solutions as clones etc and does not have the same mind opening effect as REAL Ganja.

It is more like a mind crushing effect and does not help us to wake up.

It does not effect the body in the same way and is not "sweet to the mind" like natural herb.

It does not lift the spirit or open ones third eye in the same way and allow us to read between the lines and see truth.....
It seems more like a dumbed down sort of buzz.

It is very different and this is obvious to anyone with a clear and sensitive enough mind.
Perhaps a mind that has not been dumbed down by telivision, too much refined sugar,
aspartame and other junk foods, anti deppressant pills and other tranquilizing drugs...:eek:


I agree totally with everything you just said.


I quit smoking dope 7 years back after smoking for about 15 years.
I do not enjoy the potent strains and i don't like what it does to my head.
At a guess i'd say since the mid-90's the whole indoor hydroponic cloned genetically-modified weed has REALLY taken off.. the stuff on offer nowadays is just too damn trippy for me. I just don't like the feeling i get off it.

Never heard of CBD before this post but it would explain a lot.

Anyways.. now i've got a big veggie patch out back, i've also got a wee plantation going on that will keep ME supplied throughout the year with organically home-grown thai-weed.

[skunksmash]

there's a lot of what we call ''black ash'' going around at the moment, it looks & smells top notch, but it tastes like crap & dont burn AT ALL.. :mad:

im sure its either been sprayed purposely to keep it from going moldy, or the chemicals are not being flushed before harvest.....


if not sell it retail, give ppl the opportunity to grow 1 plant for personal consumption, & charge us for the setup...??



:)SK

[supertzar]

Skunk #1 (is that what we are talking about or are we calling ALL high quality cannabis "skunk?") DOES have cannabidiol or CBD, although concentrations are lower than certain other strains. Most knowledgeable smokers wouldn't want a strain with high CBD anyway, unless the CBD is required for medicinal purposes.

Skunk #1 was bred outdoors by California growers in the 70's. It is a stable strain that probably hasn't changed much since then. It's not "genetically modified." That is stupid. I don't understand the British hysteria over the "dangerous" and "different" skunk. If you don't want to smoke "skunk" grown hydroponically, grow some organic yourself. It's fine whether grown indoors or out.

[paradise_1000]

I have gone back to normal weed (mersh) I love a nice skunk spliff but alot of the skunk in the london area is sprayed.

Seriously anyone else getting this you buy abit it looks the part give it a smell there is a weak smell and the crystals have what I call a crunch to them.

The last straw was when I bought a Q and it looked great but had no smell at all and when I smoked a Joint the cherry solidified :eek:

I talked about this with a few m8s people are growing shit skunk and spraying it with an airbrush with god knows what to make it look like high grade :mad:

to the OP skunk is most def cannabis crystals are on mersh (normal weed ) to have alook at the buds close up


pissed off 80% of the skunk in the last year from my sources is pretty shit :mad:

weekend trips to Dam are expensive lol

[bealert]

The trouble is cannabis leads to escalation of other drugs and for people to say it isnt addictive is untrue. Many heavy users cannot sleep properly without it and probably could not live normal lives without it.

[therealedeal]

The trouble is cannabis leads to escalation of other drugs and for people to say it isnt addictive is untrue. Many heavy users cannot sleep properly without it and probably could not live normal lives without it.

why because you say so?


yep theres a lot of bad dope floatin around. theres all sorts of things that can be done to it to give it different effects (all unnatural, ie fly spray for chems, cola for stickiness).

people should either grow their own or know their grower.

and whats the deal with ppl saying all hydro is bad because its artificially grown? thats like saying incubators are bad for people!

these species are grown over many generations, the only tampering with them is what the plants do to themselves naturally! (unless of course the dirty tricks are used).

[kanz]

I understand where you're coming from, but the problem we have today is the different strains of skunk that have been "designed" which is far stronger than canabis. It grows with crystals on it. Have you seen the kids on it? My son was a fixture on my lounge carpet glued to the TV for hours on end, but he could never tell me what he was watching.

Canabis I don't have an issue with, but skunk will only mess you up, don't fool yourself about it.

I hate to sound like a cock but that last sentance of yours is how shall i say fucked.
Ok lets break it down a little bit .The crystals produced on the plant are what gives you the effect not the leaf matter , in theory you could coat cabbage with the crystals and smoke it for an effect.
Now as i said the crystal comes from the plant , but now this is where the problem comes in . Most people don't seam to understand what hash is so this is why you have this common misconseption.
Hash is all the crystals shaken from the plant and collected together . So a good bit of bud is around 10-20 percent thc, where as a good bit of hash is between 40-70 % thc.
So its impossible for people to be alot less stoned while on ressin than on herb unlesssomething weird has happened.
Now that something weird that has happened is that the resin is cut so it dosnt have as strong effects as the skunk as its been cut so bad it dosnt really have any crystal in it , now what it does have is alot of is crap , ie plastic , pain killers any old crap they can ment down and bulk up the hash with.
So it seams as if its better cause people are less stoned but realy they are doing there body like 1000 times more damge from smokeing that crap.

Smokeing real hash is alot more potent than any evil "skunk" you will smoke "skunk" being a name for a plant not a type of cannibas plant any plant they find nowdays is labelled as a skunk plant in there books weither it be sativa or indica.

So to recap the plant grows the crystal , then the plants are turned into hash . Roughly it takes about 7g of sensimilla bud ( unpolinated bud) to make about 1 gram of good hash. So you can see that hash should nock your socks off compaired to grass.

[paradise_1000]

The trouble is cannabis leads to escalation of other drugs and for people to say it isnt addictive is untrue. Many heavy users cannot sleep properly without it and probably could not live normal lives without it.

As to escalation to other drugs I think that is dependent on the situation its up to the person if they want to try other drugs. Peer pressure and intrigue is more of a reason people who smoke weed want to try class A.

I have smoked for 18 years very reg I do miss it if I dont have it but its not an addiction smoking cigs is what I call an addiction.

As to people not being able to lead normal lives with out herb that is Bullshit just like any drug say coffee for an example you will have a come down you just have to ride it out.

[apekteina lordosis]

The trouble is cannabis leads to escalation of other drugs and for people to say it isnt addictive is untrue. Many heavy users cannot sleep properly without it and probably could not live normal lives without it.

what's your definition of "normal". i think living a typical life stinks. being chained to the churn of the capitalist wheel for the best years of your life just isn't natural, but the snowball of generations indocrinated by the msm into thinking "money" is the only way one can survive has many believing that the continued outlawing of "drugs" is righteous.

these people read about smackheads committing burglaries and fail to realise (cos the msm doesn't say it) that if heroin was legal it would be not only far cheaper for users to buy but also completely pure, meaning a one gram purchase would last a lot longer. result? a thousand pound a week habit becomes a hundred pound a week habit. one thing little mentioned about the nhs is the number of doctors who are heroin addicts. how do they "get away with it?" cos the supply they use is pure aka the manage to hold down their jobs cos they're not injecting brick dust and fuck knows what else into their bodies, unlike "junkies" who are only able to get hold of impure heroin that their dealer has bulked out with all sorts of shit to increase the profit margin.

ganja is ganja and there's little scope for increasing profits, unlike harder drugs that come in powder form. that's the main reason why ganja is a gateway drug, cos it's illegal thus for many people the only way to get hold of it is to frequent with dealers who are out to make as much money as they can, and they can make far more money by peddling "powder" drugs.

if ganja were legal people could pop into a chemists to get some without having some spiv trying to get them hooked on heroin. and if heroin were legal, people who use it would be able to afford to feed their habit without having to resort to crime. instead the msm spout bullshit thus people continue to get robbed, whilst the addicts have their lives destroyed by impurity and the blackmarket cost of their habit.

[paradise_1000]

I hate to sound like a cock but that last sentance of yours is how shall i say fucked.
Ok lets break it down a little bit .The crystals produced on the plant are what gives you the effect not the leaf matter , in theory you could coat cabbage with the crystals and smoke it for an effect.
Now as i said the crystal comes from the plant , but now this is where the problem comes in . Most people don't seam to understand what hash is so this is why you have this common misconseption.
Hash is all the crystals shaken from the plant and collected together . So a good bit of bud is around 10-20 percent thc, where as a good bit of hash is between 40-70 % thc.
So its impossible for people to be alot less stoned while on ressin than on herb unlesssomething weird has happened.
Now that something weird that has happened is that the resin is cut so it dosnt have as strong effects as the skunk as its been cut so bad it dosnt really have any crystal in it , now what it does have is alot of is crap , ie plastic , pain killers any old crap they can ment down and bulk up the hash with.
So it seams as if its better cause people are less stoned but realy they are doing there body like 1000 times more damge from smokeing that crap.

Smokeing real hash is alot more potent than any evil "skunk" you will smoke "skunk" being a name for a plant not a type of cannibas plant any plant they find nowdays is labelled as a skunk plant in there books weither it be sativa or indica.

So to recap the plant grows the crystal , then the plants are turned into hash . Roughly it takes about 7g of sensimilla bud ( unpolinated bud) to make about 1 gram of good hash. So you can see that hash should nock your socks off compaired to grass.

well said

[mrindigo]

I don't have a problem with people who smoke weed, but not everyone reacts to things the same.

Take alcohol for example. Some people get violent, others friendly, and some really depressed.

I've crossed people who had varying effects when smoking weed. Some get really spiritually deep and profound, some turn into blithering idiots who can barely walk, and some can't remember what they've had for breakfast that day.

I personally have a few problems with legalization of it.

1. I would not trust any Government or large corporation with distribution of it, as it will likely end out with carcinogens like Tobacco cigarettes, maybe other things.

2. I wouldn't feel safe if someone blazed out of their mind were operating heavy construction eqipment, or the like. Not everyone gets messed up, but some do. I know some people who can barely operate a microwave when high, let alone a city bus or a crane.


3. I don't like the idea of small children inhaling that as second hand smoke. I don't personally know what it's effects could have on a developing infant mind, and I would rather not find out.

If there was some way around these things, I wouldn't have an issue.

[drhemp]

The trouble is cannabis leads to escalation of other drugs and for people to say it isnt addictive is untrue. Many heavy users cannot sleep properly without it and probably could not live normal lives without it.

That statement simply is not true. Cannabis is not addictive; I've been using it for years and I can take it or leave it. I sleep fine and live a normal life with or without it. I enjoy smoking it, but not all the time, just as I enjoy a glass of beer or wine, but not all the time. Nor does it lead to use of other drugs, which numerous studies in the past have shown. I consider those that would criminalise me for my use of a herb that grows naturally on the planet as fascists.

If it's so bad, then how come there are millions of us who use it responsibly who are not addicted and do not have any problems from our cannabis use? Answer, it's not that bad at all and the Government have once again been lying to us (as they do on just about every issue).

[apekteina lordosis]

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I personally have a few problems with legalization of it.

1. I would not trust any Government or large corporation with distribution of it, as it will likely end out with carcinogens like Tobacco cigarettes, maybe other things.

good point. perhaps the way to go would be to make it lawful for people to grow their own. there'd probably still be gm-stylee seeds on sale but least people would be able to choose aka buy "organic".


2. I wouldn't feel safe if someone blazed out of their mind were operating heavy construction eqipment, or the like. Not everyone gets messed up, but some do. I know some people who can barely operate a microwave when high, let alone a city bus or a crane.

i know some people get a perverse buzz from doing such things, but mostly people smoke to chill out. back when i smoked it was hard enough using public transport whilst baked, let alone being the driver. and who'd be arsed doing some heavy carpentry when it'd be much more fun to just kick back with some tunes. just alter the various laws regarding work and driving to include being under the influence of ganja.


3. I don't like the idea of small children inhaling that as second hand smoke. I don't personally know what it's effects could have on a developing infant mind, and I would rather not find out.

when it comes down to it, how parents act within their own homes is their business. if anything legalisation would yield the opportunity to educate people about when is an appropriate time to smoke and when is not. besides, there's probably a far larger percentage of people who just smoke one or two spliffs of an evening compared to those who bong themselves shitfaced 24/7.

[drhemp]

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I personally have a few problems with legalization of it.

1. I would not trust any Government or large corporation with distribution of it, as it will likely end out with carcinogens like Tobacco cigarettes, maybe other things.


2. I wouldn't feel safe if someone blazed out of their mind were operating heavy construction eqipment, or the like. Not everyone gets messed up, but some do. I know some people who can barely operate a microwave when high, let alone a city bus or a crane.


3. I don't like the idea of small children inhaling that as second hand smoke. I don't personally know what it's effects could have on a developing infant mind, and I would rather not find out.

If there was some way around these things, I wouldn't have an issue.

OK here you go.

1. In Holland cananbis is sold mainly through small privately owned coffeeshops. Why should that not be the case here if we follow the Dutch system which has been proved to work?

2. I agree that you shouldn't operate heavy construction equipment while you are stoned, but what's that got to do with the legalisation argument? people use cannabis in the this country regardless of whether it's legal or not, in the Netherlands where it is permitted there actually have lower usage than Britain. The issue we have is that we risk imprisonment for our use of a plant that is less dangerous then either alcohol or tobacco.

3. Simple. Don't smoke cannabis around small children. The coffeeshops in Holland do not let under 18s into them, so I don't see why we couldn't adopt the Dutch system. Are you implying that those of us who smoke cannabis would blow second hand smoke onto children if we were legally allowed to buy it. I can get hold of cannabis today anyway, and I never smoke it when my kids are around, I always wait for them to go to bed, my gripe is the fact that the cannabis I do not smoke in front of children has to be obtained illegally.

[kanz]

I think weed smokers are just sick and tired of people giving their habit trouble and criticism despite as the origional poster said, that weed smokers are generally quite nice and insightful people.
There are a million more truly evil things in the world to criticise and still the majority of sheeple like to dig at weed and such. Enough.
I think an argument has occoured here simply because weed has been so close to the agenda ( and lets be honest, a lot of us became aware of the agenda through weed ). Furthermore it has been speculated for some time that weed inhibits mind control and we owe it to ourselves to figure out of thats true. Weed makes you question shit.

Thats pritty much it mate, tbh I love it when you get some drunken idiot spout crap about weed , i usually have fun with them even tho I shouldn't but I usualy can't help my self as there arguments are so pathetic it's not even funny.

They cover the usuall crap ie gateway drug bollox , or how it causes people to be violent:confused:. You wana see real violence go out to the town centre on the week end and look at the drunks now thats some violence.

It wounldn't be so bad if they actually had a good argument something where even as a user I could see where they are comming from. But it's just crap from the paper they read and spout back like a god damn parrot.

[charas]

I find it addictive in the same sense chocolate is addictive,
its nice so you'd like another piece!
Unlike a drug like cocaine that is addictive because it
throws the brain off balance and over time devastates the central nervous system!

Drug? Nay! Ganja is a wholesome herb! :)

[seercirra]

Hey Rossus,

How do you go about 'grounding' if you often lose yourself on even small amounts of cannabis? Could you elaborate a bit?

he means maintaining a link with your regular consciousness. knowing yourself and being able to view yourself in third person, even when your tripping.

people who are airy fairy, hypersocial, over exciteable personalities typically have a very bad time on weed and psycadelics. they cant ground themselves, lose the link with their normal consciousness and get scared shitless and 9 times out of 10 end up making a right idiot of themselves.

[seercirra]

as most cannabis is grown my criminals who are only interested in profit,
slight freudian slip there eh eh?

[seercirra]

its very simple.

humans actually have a THC receptor in the brain.

THC only comes with cannabis.

humans are meant to smoke cannabis.

we dont have eyes to fart out of....

[charas]

Im not sure on the details but all mammals have these cannabinoid receptors.

I reccomend the book "The benefits of marijuana"
by Joan Bello, to anyone who would like to know more about how mj effects the body, mind and spirit.

[skunksmash]

its very simple.

Humans actually have a thc receptor in the brain.

Thc only comes with cannabis.

Humans are meant to smoke cannabis.

We dont have eyes to fart out of....

Lmao......:D






:)sk

[bealert]

since cannabis is sprayed with weed killer to make it heavier its not really good to compare it with chocolate.

[supertzar]

since cannabis is sprayed with weed killer to make it heavier its not really good to compare it with chocolate.

I hope you are kidding.

[drhemp]

since cannabis is sprayed with weed killer to make it heavier its not really good to compare it with chocolate.

Why on Earth do you buy cannabis that has been sprayed with weed killer? Or is this another piece of government disinfo you have picked up?

I know not of any respectable grower who would spray weed with weed killer.

If you have trouble with mites on your plants, then use natural organic neem oil to get rid of them. That's certainly what all the Dutch growers us. I've never heard of spraying weed with weed killer, who the hell in their right mind would want to do that? Wouldn't that kill the plant?

Please don't believe all the rubbish you read in newspapers or government drugs information (I assume this is where this little gem of disinfo came from?)

Perhaps you are talking about the silicon that some unscrupulous growers add to make it look like it has more THC and also to make it heavier. That's certainly not healthy, but it's not weed killer. Simple answer to that one, don't buy it, there's plenty of decent stuff around that hasn't been tampered with in this way, and of course if it were legal like chocolate, then you would never have this problem in the first place.

[bealert]

nearly all cannabis is sprayed with weed killer because its cheap and it makes the product heavier.. its not done by the dealers but its done by the growers. its up to you if you dont believe me ive nothing to gain from saying this. just type in to google and do your own research.

[drael]

nearly all cannabis is sprayed with weed killer because its cheap and it makes the product heavier.. its not done by the dealers but its done by the growers. its up to you if you dont believe me ive nothing to gain from saying this.

lol.

[bealert]

not all poducers do it but it since we dont know what ones do its worrying, i think they spray something called windex on it. you cant exactly take it to the police for testing can you

[charas]

Read this thread:

""Hi all

PUBLIC HEALTH WARNING!

Bogus dealers in the UK are selling 'Dutch' skunk-weed that is covered in glass/powdered silicon, plaster,, and lots of other USO's (UN-identifiable Smoking Objects). This skunk is of a very poor / low quality and must be bad for peoples health!""

LINK:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42251

[nowimgone]

I feel so sorry for some of the people posting here.

They're minds are totally shot to bits from the media programming.

Im sighing as i write this, as probably did the others who valiently tried to put the skunk myth to sleep.
What the government did was take the most popular best selling, strongest smelling best high plant they could find- and demonise it. It was easier for them because of the popularity of the plant. There are stronger strains around.

Skunk equals a mexican plant, crossed with a plant fom afghanistan, crossed with a plant from colombia. Some might even have added a bit of thai over the years.
It was bred in california in the 70's, and came to england in the 80's.

Apparantly, an english skunk mother plant began putting out an incredible smell. this is the origins of 'Cheese' which has some of the most beneficial terpenoids of any comercially grown weed anywhere.

Read the reseach of brain tumours in rats and THC administration

[ytch]

Read this thread:

""Hi all

PUBLIC HEALTH WARNING!

Bogus dealers in the UK are selling 'Dutch' skunk-weed that is covered in glass/powdered silicon, plaster,, and lots of other USO's (UN-identifiable Smoking Objects). This skunk is of a very poor / low quality and must be bad for peoples health!""

LINK:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42251

Ah, it finaqlly arrived in the UK?

It´s been a big problem in germany for years now.

It seems some axxholes add things from birdsand over glass powder to even highly toxic substances to the weed to make it heavier.

More "healthy" alternatives in use are sugar (brought onto the buds in a watery solution)
and a solution of cellulosis (I think you can even buy it under the name "Brixx" or alike).

Normally you can identify simply by tasting and chewing a little part of the product, sugar is easy to detect by taste, glass ans thelike will be grinding between your teeth, and brixx leaves a strange taste/ feeling in your throat(after smoking).

So it´s not only paranoia, I´m afraid..

Love & Lambrusco,

ytch

[ytch]

P.S.:
It´s often used on low quality products,
not only for weight reasons,
certain additives (like sugar) make the weed look and feel more "sticky",
therefore more potent for unexperienced users.

Take care, be aware

[bealert]

it seems when someone disagrees with something on this forum they blame media programming, its such a shame they have these distorted views too such a degree its bordering on paranoia. They believe by accusing people of being mind control d it somehow wins a argument .. its almost laughable if it wasn't so sad

[charas]

I think we are using "skunk" as a generic term for modern hybrid weed grown commercially in hydro factories.
Not a particular strain.
Possibly if you will, lets try an example and compare cannabis to tomatoes:

Would you rather eat some traditional heirloom tomatoes grown by a farmer organically under the Italian sun,
Or the new fangled super market ultra quick finishing hybrid possibly - GM - hydroponic chemical grown picked early mass produced alternative? :D

The difference in growing methods alone is enough to produce totally different tomatoes.
We would be naive to think otherwise.

[charas]

Ooh and in case anyone still hasn't seen this - Yes marijuana even helps cure cancer:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41956

[disorder2k8]

Ive had tainted smoke several times, its easy to spot now. I avoid it because it kills my lungs (more than usual anyway)

[octopusrex]

Weed smoker beware. Long before you kids ever even touched a joint, folks had been selling parsely leaves and other substitutes. No shredded silicon tho..That's new.

If you don't know good weed from bad, take somebody who does on your deals.

[skunksmash]

Weed smoker beware. Long before you kids ever even touched a joint, folks had been selling parsely leaves and other substitutes. No shredded silicon tho..That's new.

If you don't know good weed from bad, take somebody who does on your deals.

unfortunately, they've got so good at disguising the bud, unless you can sit in the dealers house & smoke a joint, there's really no way of knowing if its been sprayed or not....:(, back in the day you only had to stick your nose in the bag or look at it to know if it will stone you...... & i blaze professionally (if there is such a thing :p)

the amount of times ive actually backed stuff after having a taste..... some ppl wont even answer the phone to me now, b/c thats all they're buying... its cheap on the OZ, & little Chav rats could care less..:mad:

the only way to be sure of a clean smoke is to grow your own....... or know someone who does & your able to be involved in the harvest....


:)SK

[kanz]

nearly all cannabis is sprayed with weed killer because its cheap and it makes the product heavier.. its not done by the dealers but its done by the growers. its up to you if you dont believe me ive nothing to gain from saying this. just type in to google and do your own research.

Sadly he is correct. Alot of big commercail growers spray there product to make it heavier. Ive heard of silocone, glass, sugar water, hair spray and even lead being used.Dosn't surprise me considering what happens to soap bar :eek:.

Some sign's to look out for , if you shake the bag about sometimes loads of huge crystal will collect in the bag . This stuff will look diffrent from normal crystal. Or it might scratch glass or sorta pop while smoking it. Where im from it's reffered to as "chinky grass"

Even if it wasn't sprayed people still shouldnt be smokeing this stuff as its usually leafy(looks like they just cut a branch off the plant and bagged it), wet , under weight(even tho it is wet and still has leafs on it) and usually the buds have been messed up due to the way the package the stuff( all crushed up etc , maybe it's just me I like to admire the bud's before I smoke them).

IMHO if you can't smell it threw the bag it's not worth the money.

[xray_spex]

its very simple.

humans actually have a THC receptor in the brain.

THC only comes with cannabis.

humans are meant to smoke cannabis.

we dont have eyes to fart out of....

The human brain also has GHB receptors. Should we all get out of it on GHB as well in that case?