How to use WEED for expansion and not escape [Archive]

ho1ogram

09-06-2007, 03:07 PM

WEED - 4min vid.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIMQcdDmrY4

Cannabis is not a health problem. The problem is that it promotes social values and attitudes which are unwelcome in capitalist market based society, it's just that simple.

...this is simply that we value certain states of mind and we fear and suspect others and this is based entirely on value systems that are inculcated from above.

Anders Lindman

09-06-2007, 03:17 PM

Using illegal weed only fuels Illuminati black-op money. Don't feed the animals.

i am all i am

09-06-2007, 03:30 PM

WEED - 4min vid.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIMQcdDmrY4

G'day Ho1ogram.

Thank you for that link brother.

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ho1ogram

09-06-2007, 03:33 PM

Anders, I'm surprised that's all you had to say on the video. Did you watch it?

There are definitely cannabis rings that are run by the lumie drug barons but you can also easily source locally grown weed... here you can anyway. Better yet, people can simply grow their own.

If it wasn't illegal to grow your own then no money would get back to the elite bankers. Why not make it legal? It is simply a plant. People don't have to smoke it. Did you watch the vid? They were talking about using it to enhance one's life and didn't recommend it for everybody or that people should smoke all the time.

ho1ogram

09-06-2007, 03:36 PM

i am all i am

09-06-2007, 04:02 PM

No worries i am all i am, I have been having the odd puff after ten years off and so have been looking into marijuana a bit... I approach it with a new outlook now, aided by some info you gave me and sparked by that wonderful weekend session that we shared... well to be more precise I shared, and you provided, hehe, heh... thanks!:)

G'day brother.

Actually Raphael provided me and I merely shared what I was provided with, but you are welcome and I would love to share another such experience with you again. I am glad that you have been able to have another perspective on how marijuana can be beneficial for you and that you are gaining this benefit for yourself.

Maybe next time we get together we can cook some with some mushrooms and get the pituitary, thalamus, hyperthalamus and pineal glands fully cranked, adding some music, crystals and a few other things that I have 'up my sleeve' together as well, for a fully charged spiritual experience.

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truthcommission

09-06-2007, 04:27 PM

...you can also easily source locally grown weed... here you can anyway. Better yet, people can simply grow their own...
In an ideal world that is what would happen but unfortunately the majority of people buy weed from a chain of supply that is linked to other criminal behavior such as murder, money laundering, intimidation and the oppression and exploitation of others.

That is one of the reasons why I am against the consumption of weed and other drugs. Look at the big picture. Your stupid little weed or coke habit can be the cause of someone being murdered to protect some wankers profits.

As far as I am concerned illegal drugs are too tied up in nasty shit to be good karma.

Anders Lindman

09-06-2007, 05:00 PM

i am all i am

09-06-2007, 05:19 PM

In an ideal world that is what would happen.....

G'day Truthcommision.

If we acted as we would in an ideal, world then we can create that ideal world.

The power of those that enslave humanity is in getting everyone to act other than they would act in an ideal world.

Our thoughts, words and actions are creative, and by choosing thoughts words and actions that would create an ideal world, we will create that ideal world and allow that experience to be the world that children can grow up in.

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truthcommission

09-06-2007, 05:32 PM

I fully agree with what you are saying.

Today I went to see His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

He teachings made so much sense to me. We ALL need to change the way we interact with each other and the world we live in.

Our world and everyone and everything in it is really just an EXTENSION of ourselves.

ho1ogram

09-06-2007, 05:38 PM

Sounds good i am all i am, I thought I'd be up that way again sooner rather than later, but I haven't! K and I have been talking about heading north while it's winter... or me on my own... I'll keep in touch.

In an ideal world that is what would happen but unfortunately the majority of people buy weed from a chain of supply that is linked to other criminal behavior such as murder, money laundering, intimidation and the oppression and exploitation of others.

That is one of the reasons why I am against the consumption of weed and other drugs. Look at the big picture. Your stupid little weed or coke habit can be the cause of someone being murdered to protect some wankers profits.

As far as I am concerned illegal drugs are too tied up in nasty shit to be good karma.
I agree with the first paragraph, as I said it's easy to find homegrown or just grow your own. All the more reason for it to be legalised.

What's with the condescending attitude in the second paragraph?
Look at the big picture. Your stupid little weed or coke habit can be the cause of someone being murdered to protect some wankers profits.

I am looking at the bigger picture, did you read the quotes in my first post? Terrence Mckenna was saying that the reason cannabis is illegal is because of the system of control that we live in.
Why did you say I have a "stupid little weed or coke habit"? Did you watch the video? There is no mention of coke in it and nobody else here mentioned coke. Where did I say I have a weed habit?
I have been having the odd puff after ten years off and so have been looking into marijuana a bit

The video didn't start. They won't make it legal because then they cannot fuel their huge black-op budgets. Instead they will jump on home-grown weed fiercely, for example by scare tactics in media such as CNN.
G'day Anders, I agree and it's because of the scare tactics that I have been looking into pot and passing around information on it.

truthcommission

09-06-2007, 05:49 PM

What's with the condescending attitude in the second paragraph?
Sorry man I wasn't directing it at you personally.

I was really just parroting stuff I have said to my younger brother over and over. He is a complete drug fiend. It really gets to me that he doesn't make the connections. He is happy to do line after line of Charlie and then smoke shit loads of weed to talk himself down but as soon as you mention the fact that its produced by people with very little awareness who are also involved in violent crime its like he doesn't want to know.

truthcommission

09-06-2007, 05:56 PM

By the way I did watch the video. I had seen it a while ago.

Terence McKenna has a lot of relevant things to say.

I think the problem with modern culture is that is completely devoid of that inner universe and experience which can be accessed using natural plants and shrooms.

ho1ogram

09-06-2007, 06:15 PM

No worries truthcommision :)

I hear ya about your brother, I have been a hard drug fiend before, one of the reasons I gave 'em up was because I realised I was supporting the arms industry, etc.
I know a lot of people who have been addicted to smack and or coke and some just stop, others are just in their own world and there is nothing anyone can do for them.
There is not enough information out there about drugs: everything illegal get's lumped together; nature's bounty is feared instead of respected like all of nature should be; of course the media doesn't link the opium growing fields of Afghanistan to that countries invasion; wall street's connections to drugs and the CIA aren't mentioned, etc, etc..

Michael Ruppert's book 'Crossing the Rubicon' has some great chapters about Wall street, the CIA and drug money.

Peace, h.

withthespigotonhot

09-06-2007, 06:16 PM

Using illegal weed only fuels Illuminati black-op money. Don't feed the animals.

Bullshit. Proof please, because i believe thats a HUGE myth. Coke & Heroin maybe, but not marijauna.

Anders Lindman

09-06-2007, 06:50 PM

Bullshit. Proof please, because i believe thats a HUGE myth. Coke & Heroin maybe, but not marijauna.

I think it depends on how much money is involved. Where there is big money, there are big bad fishes. The biggest baddest fishes are the Illuminati.

ngawaka19

10-06-2007, 05:28 PM

Using illegal weed only fuels Illuminati black-op money. Don't feed the animals.

Unless of course you grow your own........chur......jah rastafari......from a non-smoking aspiring to be rastafarian.....

truthcommission

10-06-2007, 05:55 PM

Don't get me wrong chaps.

I have done my fair share of charlie, weed, X, crystal meth and crack cocaine.

I used to work in a well known club in San Francisco where my brother DJ'ed at quite regularly. I remember being so fucked up on occasions that I woke up in the club the next morning and had no clue how I got there or even cleared the place. My first response was to pull a bottle of Rolling Rock out of the cooler and do a line of charlie on the bar before heading off to some some day club such at The End Up.

When it comes to drugs I know the score but things are different now...

Anders Lindman

10-06-2007, 06:09 PM

Unless of course you grow your own........chur......jah rastafari......from a non-smoking aspiring to be rastafarian.....

And then it would be clean stuff. Who knows what kind of nasty chemicals they put in black-market weed.

Not exactly related to weed perhaps, but AIDS, it seems, is related to certain illegal drugs, not to HIV:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916

It's a long video. You can fast-forward to 38:20 for a brief explanation about the relation between illegal drugs and AIDS. Later on in the video they also describe how what is called AIDS in America is not the same AIDS that allegedly is spreading in Africa. In fact, it's not clear that what is called AIDS in Africa actually is AIDS. My guess is that AIDS is caused by a toxin added to illegal drugs, a toxin that destroys the immune system. Seriously evil and nasty stuff.

girthgirl

10-06-2007, 07:58 PM

And then it would be clean stuff. Who knows what kind of nasty chemicals they put in black-market weed.

Not exactly related to weed perhaps, but AIDS, it seems, is related to certain illegal drugs, not to HIV:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064591712431946916

It's a long video. You can fast-forward to 38:20 for a brief explanation about the relation between illegal drugs and AIDS. Later on in the video they also describe how what is called AIDS in America is not the same AIDS that allegedly is spreading in Africa. In fact, it's not clear that what is called AIDS in Africa actually is AIDS. My guess is that AIDS is caused by a toxin added to illegal drugs, a toxin that destroys the immune system. Seriously evil and nasty stuff.

I Believe aids comes from failed experiments in Africa with things like mass
Polio vaccine injections to poor little children using them as guini pigs.

danielg

10-06-2007, 09:49 PM

Cannabis is not a health problem. The problem is that it promotes social values and attitudes which are unwelcome in capitalist market based society, it's just that simple... this is simply that we value certain states of mind and we fear and suspect others and this is based entirely on value systems that are inculcated from above.

'Its that simple'? Since it is not a health problem, we must have an instinct, not compulsion, to get stoned then? :rolleyes: On the subject of fearing states of mind, ever thought that since we are born complete, using cannabis might be driven by a fear of a state of mind called being and not as quoted above? Just because some neurotic obsessive compulsives (workaholics) in capitalist soceties frown on smoking weed, doesn't mean that smoking weed is our natural healthy state. People hardened themselves and stopped feeling their own lifeforce running through their body, then required external stimulus (drugs), long before capitalism came about.

Anders Lindman

10-06-2007, 10:02 PM

I Believe aids comes from failed experiments in Africa with things like mass
Polio vaccine injections to poor little children using them as guini pigs.

Such things may have happened, but what the video shows is that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, nor is any other form of virus the cause of AIDS.

ho1ogram

11-06-2007, 08:02 AM

Cannabis is illegal because "...it promotes social values and attitudes that are unwelcome in capitalist market based society.." I think it is that simple danielg. (and the fact that hemp could undermine the profits and power of companies like du pont, but the video doesn't go into that aspect of it).

I agree that people do fear the state of mind of 'being'. What Terrence Mckenna was referring to though is that people fear states of mind that are contrary to the accepted norms of society. The argument in the video from all of the interviewees is that cannabis can help people to realise that there is more to life than simply being a good citizen and paying taxes. But mainstream society fears alternative ideas.

Just because some neurotic obsessive compulsives (workaholics) in capitalist soceties frown on smoking weed, doesn't mean that smoking weed is our natural healthy state.
Nobody in the video said that smoking weed is our natural healthy state. Did you watch the video?

I agree that many people don't feel their life-force running through their body but nobody in the video said that cannabis is the only way to enlightenment. It is just one herb in nature's world of how ever many.

Why do people fear marijuana so much? Nobody has to smoke it. But it is ridiculous for it to be illegal. How much money and resources are spent trying to enforce it's prohibition?

If we really respect planet earth, how can we ban what it produces?

It is illegal because it is a natural painkiller that anyone can grow in their backyard and it also stimulates parts of the brain leading to greater awareness of our creative potential. Some people don't like it and some refute that it is beneficial in any way, but who are they to prevent others from smoking it or growing it if they wish?

ho1ogram

11-06-2007, 08:35 AM

From the video:
It often increases peoples access to their own unconscious, to the images that they have in their mind, to their dreams, to feelings that they may not be aware of...

The desire to have altered states of consciousness is basically healthy and normal. It can have bad expressions and I think in our culture where there is no recognition of that desire and we don't teach young people how to satisfy it in healthy ways, it's obvious that we are going to see a lot of negative expressions of it.
Dr. Andrew Well, University of Arizona, School of Medicine.

They find that it is useful in gaining perspective and insight in their lives.

Not everybody is capable of using cannabis in this way but it can be used in this way by people who make an effort to learn to use it in this way.
Dr. Lester Grinspoon, psychiatrist and author.

Obviously western society fails to offer guidance on how to use marijuana beneficially.
The narrator

danielg

11-06-2007, 08:46 AM

Cannabis is illegal because "...it promotes social values and attitudes that are unwelcome in capitalist market based society.." I think it is that simple danielg. (and the fact that hemp could undermine the profits and power of companies like du pont, but the video doesn't go into that aspect of it).
I never mentioned anything about legalities or cannabis as a fabric/fuel, nor was the quoted comment remotely talking about that (or the video, like you said). My comments was based on the quote.
Btw Hemp is legal here anyway, so how society sees it is based on the effects of cannabis/THC not the economics of hemp).
My point is that getting stoned for pleasure (or even as a painkiller) are both fallen states of awareness, since we have no instinct to get stoned.
and it also stimulates parts of the brain leading to greater awareness of our creative potential. IYO...
I'm not against legalising (or using) it, obviously nature being illegal is insane... doesn't mean they have any benefits that we cannot derive from ourself without using them. Ever seen a monk in eatern religions getting stoned to avoid pain? Or any of the worlds great minds using it to enhance creativity? They use their own capacity.
I'm feeling quite self righteous this morning :p

mikeproteau

11-06-2007, 10:56 AM

Using illegal weed only fuels Illuminati black-op money. Don't feed the animals.

what are you talking about? weed is the one of the drugs they DONT controll, they REALLY dont like weed and meth because it can be made at home, they pretend not to like cocain and heroin because they do controll it. weed is good, its a herb...if you know whos growing it..or if you grow it yourself, then how is that supporting drug cartels? wouldnt buying LEGAL weed and paying taxes for it be supporting the system more? I DONT want it legalized because it will then be taxed.

danielg

11-06-2007, 11:27 AM

Taxing weed would earn nothing... people would be homegrowing much more if the offence was lowered to tax evasion instaed of cultivation.

ngawaka19

11-06-2007, 01:19 PM

There was this ole pakeha lady that used to live down the road, my grandad used to try to chat her up, she wouldn't have a bar of it. Well, I was havin a lean over the fence talk with her, complaining bout how I loved choclate but how it don't like me, and she said, "Well my dear if your going to eat a Mars bar you might as well tell yourself its good for you".

'Quantum Physics' isn't it.

Make it simple. Keep it simple. And as the great Bob Marley said, "Judge not, or you will be judged yourself". Jah Rastafari

freespark

11-06-2007, 02:25 PM

In an ideal world that is what would happen but unfortunately the majority of people buy weed from a chain of supply that is linked to other criminal behavior such as murder, money laundering, intimidation and the oppression and exploitation of others.

That is one of the reasons why I am against the consumption of weed and other drugs. Look at the big picture. Your stupid little weed or coke habit can be the cause of someone being murdered to protect some wankers profits.

As far as I am concerned illegal drugs are too tied up in nasty shit to be good karma.

Ah i see. And 'illegal' drugs are illegal because? I think it's not the drug you have issues with but rather the 'fallout' caused by associations with the drug.

Do you drink or smoke? You buy Nike or Addidas clothes? If you look hard enough you will find "other criminal behavior such as murder, money laundering, intimidation and the oppression and exploitation of others" in many places.

ngawaka19

11-06-2007, 03:51 PM

Chur mikeproteu on ya. I agree, its about power and control, soon as they legalise it, who do you think then is going to profit from it. Not us. And with those guys its not a modest profit that pays just for expenses, its an indulgent perverted unecessary amount that spells greed. In any case, at least with it illegal we'll know who is us and who is them. And 'truthcommission' and 'freespark'. I don't think you get it. You mentioned some pretty negative words, infact pretty macarbe, um, how bout you say them over and over and soon they will be a reality. Oh and you both mentioned money like five thousand times, sup with that? You fullas got money issues? And ain't we tryna become and invent and create a freedom reality for all the good guys???? I don't think that consists of dictating to people what they should or shouldn't be doing. Be strong you fullas, relax your butt cheeks have a boogie on the dance floor, share the love. Infact do you's know David Icke? Isn't this what he try's to inspire. Go back to the path dudes. Find your centre. Yeah I hear you. But lets not repeat it over and over, lets combat it with positivity. Its what will help us win in the end without being violent, aggressive and dictative. what are you talking about? weed is the one of the drugs they DONT controll, they REALLY dont like weed and meth because it can be made at home, they pretend not to like cocain and heroin because they do controll it. weed is good, its a herb...if you know whos growing it..or if you grow it yourself, then how is that supporting drug cartels? wouldnt buying LEGAL weed and paying taxes for it be supporting the system more? I DONT want it legalized because it will then be taxed.

ngawaka19

11-06-2007, 04:01 PM

oh yeah forgot to say, i don't smoke. used too, but I could never run that extra block. Now I can. Keep well guys.

umbrex

11-06-2007, 04:07 PM

Using illegal weed only fuels Illuminati black-op money. Don't feed the animals.

oh god....

WHO OWNS THE BREWERIES U THINK !?

umbrex

11-06-2007, 04:11 PM

G'day brother.

Actually Raphael provided me and I merely shared what I was provided with, but you are welcome and I would love to share another such experience with you again. I am glad that you have been able to have another perspective on how marijuana can be beneficial for you and that you are gaining this benefit for yourself.

Now this intrigues me. What did u do ?=)

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 12:19 AM

oh yeah forgot to say, i don't smoke. used too, but I could never run that extra block. Now I can. Keep well guys.

LOL I perform better with than without.

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 12:25 AM

Smoking makes you wan't to make love play guitar and creative things does me anyhow. I don't wan't to join the Military or get one over on someone. It can show you what's right and wrong strangely enough, hard to believe by those none smokers who'll probably think I'm nuts.

truthcommission

12-06-2007, 03:06 AM

auron

12-06-2007, 03:14 AM

I have been stoned and encountered friends who told me later that I was acting odd or rambling on about some nonsense.

I get that from people when I haven't taken anything! :)

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 05:29 AM

Thats funny because weed always made me feel dopey, paranoid and overall just made me talk absolute shite. I have been stoned and encountered friends who told me later that I was acting odd or rambling on about some nonsense.

Don't get me wrong I don't care if other people want to imbibe. It just never did anything to me apart from making me feel uncomfortable so I am not interested.

Jeez if you need weed to make you appreciate music or arrive at the conclusion that war is wrong I think your mind is pretty closed to begin with.

Shouldn't mix you're weed with you're coc and booze. I tend to see it's drink and other drugs make people ramble on about crap, and they can't listen to another for long without loosing their concentration, or mouthing off their own opinions.... usually onto a pot smoker who is trying to have a conversation with the drunken drugged up fools.

Geez man, you didn't get my point. Pot to me makes me more peacefull, creative with playing music etc and damn horny too. which is all the opposite of the hate routine that the brotherhood wan't us to join in with them. And people who condem the herb should try it it may lighten them up a little.

As for closed mind don't know what gives you that idea. I think all that coc cocked up you're head dude!

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 05:33 AM

I need a smoke

auron

12-06-2007, 05:44 AM

I need a smoke

Here. Have a blast on this!

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i am all i am

12-06-2007, 07:56 AM

Now this intrigues me. What did u do ?=)

We shared some joints and communicated with each other !!!

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ngawaka19

12-06-2007, 08:54 AM

Though your name is 'i am all i am' I'm gona call you 'i and i' which I think is the rastafarian way of saying you and me which iamalliam probably means ne way and if it don't then just tauk up man and it can mean what you want it to mean. chur. just wanted to say all dis talk o taukin and smokin gon make my discipline subside for 2 sec in the 1 hour of life we have left and take some playtime out. Seen?

jah rastafari

truthcommission

12-06-2007, 09:57 AM

Geez man, you didn't get my point.
That is because you speak pretentious crap and make no sense whatsoever.

Take your smoke filled delusions to your pot buddies or someone who is on the same level as you who gives a crap?

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 09:38 PM

That is because you speak pretentious crap and make no sense whatsoever.

Take your smoke filled delusions to your pot buddies or someone who is on the same level as you who gives a crap?

I speak more sense and truth than you do from you're mind full of illusions. ( You wen't to see the Dalai Lama lmfao Are you sure ? ) Who are you anway some X military type?? needing forgiveness for you're sins???

Which as you said in a previous post you where taking cocaine and all the other shit (alcohol etc) My reply to that was don't mix you're coc with you're smoke. I know exactley what I'm saying is true. I'm not some crazy kid high on pot as you probably think.

It's idiots like you who I've come across many times before, who just don't like smoking or us smokers. You're the narrow minded biggot here. I suggest you go and educate yourself by reading the posts in the other threads some excellent information about the benefits of cannabis as explained by iam all i am for one.

You've dissed me enough recentley lay off the personal insults or expect them in return.

Take heed of the old Buddhist saying do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
:)

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 09:44 PM

Here. Have a blast on this!

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cheers man if it's cyber toke it will have to do for now.

eternal_spirit

12-06-2007, 09:55 PM

truthcommission

13-06-2007, 02:05 AM

You've dissed me enough recentley lay off the personal insults or expect them in return.
What age are you?

Intellectually you come across as being very immature.

Unlike you I have no interest in childish insults. You have already proven a massive point for me already. I don't believe you have anything worthwhile to offer anyway so keep on toking if thats what makes you happy.

eternal_spirit

13-06-2007, 02:13 AM

What age are you?

Intellectually you come across as being very immature.

Unlike you I have no interest in childish insults. You have already proven a massive point for me already. I don't believe you have anything worthwhile to offer anyway so keep on toking if thats what makes you happy.

LOL you started to diss me. You're first mistake is thinking you're more intelligent and the second mistake don't mince words with an Englishman. Be happy we gave you the English language a way for you American's ( presumes I'm conversing with one) to express yourself in a coherent manner. Am I right about you're Military connections??? Maybe you are a Troll.

Go pour a large glass of Jack Daniels or what ever you like. :D

montag

13-06-2007, 02:20 AM

Hey Guys, can we stay on track here without turning this in to a slanging match..

Montag

truthcommission

13-06-2007, 02:22 AM

You're first mistake is thinking you're more intelligent and the second mistake don't mince words with an Englishman. Be happy we gave you the English language a way for you American's to express yourself...
Nice try old chap but no cigar.

Perhaps it is the weed that is making you confused. I am not American for starters and I don't drink Jack Daniels. I prefer a pint of Tetleys.

Does that clear things up a bit?

limelady

13-06-2007, 02:22 AM

......to raise the mood here :D

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montag

13-06-2007, 02:26 AM

truthcommission

13-06-2007, 02:31 AM

OK pass me the bong.

limelady

13-06-2007, 02:32 AM

Lime have you been 'expanding' again? This time of the morning? Shame..:rolleyes:

Yep, brewed up a goody this mornin! http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S482.gif

No matter what time of the day, you can NEVER expand too
much ......unless of course we're talking waistelines here...http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S52.gif

Now come on everybody....shake that booty! http://school.discovery.com/clipart/images/ani-dance1.gif

eternal_spirit

13-06-2007, 02:35 AM

Nice try old chap but no cigar.

Perhaps it is the weed that is making you confused. I am not American for starters and I don't drink Jack Daniels. I prefer a pint of Tetleys.

Does that clear things up a bit?

LOL okay enough. Not the smoke, it's not having any that does my head in, makes me tetchy without it as I've said many times before. Too many arguments about the pros and cons of smoking.

You've blown my illusion now thinking of you as the smoking man off the X Files. Tetleys be thee a Yorkie lad?

truthcommission

13-06-2007, 03:10 AM

...Not the smoke, it's not having any that does my head in, makes me tetchy without it as I've said many times before...
You don't need to explain mate. We all have our addictions whether it be weed, alcohol, charlie, coffee or even serotonin from working out. I need to take Lithium and Valium to control my moods FFS.

Tetleys be thee a Yorkie lad?
My dads side of the family were all from Leeds. I have grown up in lots of different countries. I met a Yorkshire lad in The Cornish Arms in Melbourne last Saturday night. I started getting all misty eyed and wishing I was in some small little pub tucked away in the dales or somewhere supping a pint of ale or bitter.

I know there would be thousands that would swap England for Australia but I really miss the place. The pubs just aren't the same here.

ho1ogram

13-06-2007, 03:20 AM

IYO...
I'm not against legalising (or using) it, obviously nature being illegal is insane... doesn't mean they have any benefits that we cannot derive from ourself without using them. Ever seen a monk in eatern religions getting stoned to avoid pain? Or any of the worlds great minds using it to enhance creativity? They use their own capacity.
I'm feeling quite self righteous this morning :p

G'day danielg, it's not just my opinon it is also my experience. It is also the opinion and/or expereince of the two doctors in the video.

I know we can transcend pain without it. As for great minds using it? Well a lot of musicians and artists use it. I do know a teacher and a scientist who smoke regularly, whether or not they are great minds is open to debate.

I haven't said it is a replacement for anything, it is simply another herb from natures garden that has many benefits.

I've started a thread that explains how marijuana stimulates both sides of the brain at the same time and increases blood flow to the brain by as much as twenty percent. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=58169

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