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2tuff
09-06-2007, 05:07 AM
My friends the ATLANTIS Space Shuttle flew on 8 June 2007 at EDT 7:38pm. Do we believe its for the ISS or is it something else? Its it a signal as usual for something to come? Maybe a long shot but could 7:38 be code for 7:11 meaning July 11 2007? Now when you consider this is mission STS-117 things get interesting. Also note that the mission is for 11 days. You could also say theres now a possibility of something happening on the 22nd July 2007? Now when you consider that Syria is removing the Petrodollar in the middle of July it gets interesting again. Also note how its highly likely Israel will attack Syria whilst the U.S goes for Iran. We have all this new talk that the Iran war is off but I don't fall for it so easy. Notice Iran putting the attack boats out supposedly? Lets see what happens. The Shuttle lands on the 18th June 2007. You'll also notice that Satanic Celebrations in June and July fall on these dates:

Jun 17 Corpus Christi
Jun 20
Jun 21 Feast Day
Jun 22 Summer Solstice 1
Jun 23

Jul 01 Demon Revels
Jul 20-26
Jul 27 Grand Climax
Jul. 31 Lammas

Now take note how its only one day after the Shuttle lands that we have the start of the next June Satanic celebrations. Whats also interesting is that my July 22 wonderings then fits directly in with the Jul 20-26 Satanic dates

We should also consider that the Space Shuttle set off on a FRIday which is VENUS day. Now our so-called FREE-DOM is Venusian itself. Also remember its Lucifer day also which has a good/bad side. What happened also on Friday 8th June 2007? The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Peter Pace was REPLACED by the Bush administration. Whats this mean? Well the United States is a full Military Force onto itself. So now will this aid in the next coming war? Certainly will not do the opposite of course. So my friends we may see some Martime event wether a nuclear detonated Tsunami again or a Maritime started conflict? Its not been since 2002 that any of the Shuttles have had an all male crew by the way. You will also notice that the Space Shuttle arrives back on a Tuesday which is the Planet Mars. Mars is the god of WAR! When we also consider that the ISS station is ISIS (Yoni) and the Space Shuttle is OSIRIS (Phallic/Yod) we then get the creation of the SUN. What can we do to simulate the heat and power of the Sun somewhat? NUCLEAR Detonation. Do you think I'm possibily connecting some dots? You may see another Sovereign Military Order of Malta false flag attack with their Intelligence controlling yet more aircraft. You may find a setup of Iran utilising a fighter aircraft attack on the U.S forces linked with the Straits of Homuz. Remember what they wished to do with Iraq and the U.N painted plane.

I do not wish an event to happen, I am no prophet. I simply keep my eyes open for possible connections. Wether they occur or not, well who knows.

Craig Oxley


Pentagon ‘Coup’ Completes Military Takeover Of United States Government
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MI...showtopic=26768 (http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=26768)

Syria to switch from dollar
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=26772&st=0

redhead
09-06-2007, 09:50 AM
Food for thought as always 2Tuff my brother. it looks like there could'nt be a better time to think, look and feel positive, remember folks we create our reality, they try to bend it to there will.

zircon
09-06-2007, 11:07 AM
2tuff, never read your threads before but vry interesting what you say about the pentagon coup.. Invisionfree and the Unhivedmind, I want to spend some time reading those and thinking about them. Regarding the period 20-27 July, interestingly a square forms int the skies between Neptune/Chiron (conj in Aquarius) opposite Saturn (in Leo) and Mars (in Taurus) during this time.
(This suggests violent outbreaks, deception and control) the Moon completes the square (entering Scorpio 23-25 July) on 24 July (severe emotional disturbance / conflict). From around the 14 June to 3 July there is a series of very strong oppositions between Saturn conj Venus (in Leo) and Neptune conj Chiron (in Aquarius) tht reaches a climax around the end of June, assisted by the moon on 26 June. The period 18-20 June is interesting due to the grand trine Saturn / Mars / Pluto (in Sag) and assisted by moon on 19 June, when there is a kite formation. (this tells me powerful and ambition will to succeed in a dynamic project involving subterfuge) Mercury is retrograde end june to 12/13 july when the subterfuge mentioned for the June period, could be taken forward again.
Could other experienced astrologers add comments?
I will come back to this.

truthcommission
09-06-2007, 02:00 PM
Similar to the kind of thing Goro Adachi goes on about.

Where are you getting your material from 2tuff?

lookfar
09-06-2007, 03:27 PM
Wow great research there 2tuff.

Perhaps it might be an idea for a forum experiment as an attempt to combat this??? Although I'm not sure what we could do.... suggestions anyone???

tinmenace
09-06-2007, 03:33 PM
In addition;

Atlantis is carrying a metal cargo tag from historic Jamestown, Virginia. The tag is almost 400 years old and reads "Yames Towne." Its space voyage is meant to commemorate the 400th anniversary of Jamestown settlement in 1607.


I posted about it on the VIRGIN-ia thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3234&page=3).

zircon
09-06-2007, 03:41 PM
I was curious to see on another thread the link to the FireTheGrid site and a reference on that site to the date July 17:

"This global project of loving intention is completely possible. Your intention to make it happen can change the outcome of this planet. I will discuss the details of the plan in phase three of this website. I will give you the directions to follow, and you will see how little it will take for you to become an ambassador of light to our home, planet Earth. I beseech you to join me when we fire the Earth grid on July 17, 2007 at 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time — 12:11 (12:11 PM) in your time zone — , and add your energy to this project. I promise you, just one hour of your time and you can help heal this planet, and help create peace among all people."

If the light beings referred to on that site are to be believed, they also feel that the dates around July 2007, have a special significance....

http://www.firethegrid.com/eng/eng-home-fr.htm

bananaman
09-06-2007, 04:06 PM
There are limits. I thought the thread was a mickey take when I read the initial post. Please tell me this thread isn't actually being taken seriously by anyone.

Bananaman (In Shock).

tinmenace
09-06-2007, 04:15 PM
It's a discussion, bananaman. You know...where people share ideas.

I like to think of this forum as a place where people can say whatever is on their mind, no matter how strange it sounds, because as we've all learned - Truth is stranger than fiction.

So, open your mind a little bit. You might learn something.

bananaman
09-06-2007, 04:18 PM
OK, fair point, but if I boldly announced wombats are going to come flying out of my arse that will destroy the universe tomorrow and got replies saying, "yes, you've made a coherent and intelligent argument" wouldn't your jaw drop a bit?

Bananaman.

tinmenace
09-06-2007, 04:24 PM
Depending on what you'd provide to back up your statement.

Clearly you don't know enough about obvious phallic worship around the world and 'mythological' god worship within NASA to recognize the important symbolism in this thread.

You have some catching up to do.

I recommend you start with The Biggest Secret. (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12) That should give you a good idea of what you're looking at around you but not seeing.

So, there's a lot to learn if you're serious about learning ;)

mcmenek1
09-06-2007, 04:29 PM
Hi 2tuff,

Great post!!......very interesting......I only noticed this morning that the space shuttle had taken off on an 11 day mission while reading a news website and I also noticed on the site that President Bush is doing a tour of Europe at the moment.

I remember watching a film called Conspiracy Theory it stared Mel Gibson as Jerry Fletcher, an eccentric taxi driver who believed that many negative world events were actually government conspiracies.

For example, Jerry believes that NASA is trying to kill the President with a shuttle-mounted seismic weapon. Later in the movie, an earthquake occurs in a region of the world the President is visiting, and he narrowly escapes.

Source: Conspiracy theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There were a lot of hidden truths in that film....... When I seen the news this morning I thought to myself........I wonder if anything is going to happen to President Bush during the shuttle mission....... President Bush’s Masonic nickname is ‘Temporary’

If President Bush was assassinated....... Iran could be blamed for it and America has its excuse to attack Iran...........

Love
&
Peace

zircon
09-06-2007, 04:30 PM
bananaman, I agree with Tinmenace; That is not what 2tuff implied, but was referring to a potentially signicant symbolic moment approaching.. We know that the illuminati use symbolic times and names; we know that they have designed heinous attacks on innocent people before and have the immense resources and power and intention to do the same again, so maybe we could stick to the point - If you have remarks to make, please read and study what has been said before.

bananaman
09-06-2007, 04:33 PM
Well, since you ask, I have good reason to believe End Of The World troubles could be expelled from my bottom at any moment. The last time I sat on the loo was an excruciating experience. I definitely felt porcupine bristles, and the world turned dark for a moment. I feared the worst, it was close to an out of body experience, which was fortunate, having my arse plonked on the lavatory seat is a bonus when out of body things happen. But eventually my vision cleared and I was still just sitting on the loo in the bathroom and a serene smile of achievement was pasted across my face.

But I started wondering - what next? Porcupines have done their stuff to my inner ring, how long till wombats? You can see I back up my hypothesis with firm evidence. And it was VERY firm evidence.

Bananaman.

zircon
09-06-2007, 04:36 PM
You sound like a fool to me; was your evidence of porcupines as firm as that surrounding 9/11?

Go back to the toilet and do some growing up.

tinmenace
09-06-2007, 04:38 PM
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/loserr.gif

Well, since you ask, I have good reason to believe End Of The World troubles could be expelled from my bottom at any moment. The last time I sat on the loo was an excruciating experience. I definitely felt porcupine bristles, and the world turned dark for a moment. I feared the worst, it was close to an out of body experience, which was fortunate, having my arse plonked on the lavatory seat is a bonus when out of body things happen. But eventually my vision cleared and I was still just sitting on the loo in the bathroom and a serene smile of achievemnet was pasted across my face.

But I started wondering - what next? Porcupines have done their stuff to my inner ring, how long till wombats? You can see I back up my hypothesis with firm evidence. And it was VERY firm evidence.

Bananaman.

I don't want to see this thread moved to the rant room, so all I'll say is:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/robot.gif

bananaman
09-06-2007, 04:40 PM
Believe it or not I'm trying very hard to be kind.

Bananaman (The Gentle).

lookfar
09-06-2007, 04:40 PM
Well, since you ask, I have good reason to believe End Of The World troubles could be expelled from my bottom at any moment. The last time I sat on the loo was an excruciating experience. I definitely felt porcupine bristles, and the world turned dark for a moment. I feared the worst, it was close to an out of body experience, which was fortunate, having my arse plonked on the lavatory seat is a bonus when out of body things happen. But eventually my vision cleared and I was still just sitting on the loo in the bathroom and a serene smile of achievement was pasted across my face.

But I started wondering - what next? Porcupines have done their stuff to my inner ring, how long till wombats? You can see I back up my hypothesis with firm evidence. And it was VERY firm evidence.

Bananaman.

Yeah me neither Tin.

Hmmm...
http://www.primatestore.com/clipart/bananas_md_wht.gif http://www.primatestore.com/clipart/coconut_md_wht.gif

truthcommission
09-06-2007, 04:53 PM
Believe it or not I'm trying very hard to be kind.
Its funny I thought you were a try hard too.

da renn
09-06-2007, 08:04 PM
Why do certain posters turn these threads into a daft circus?
Sorry 2Tuff, you are an intelligent mind.
You're an avid believer in "Jesus" and a STAUNCH Biblehead, who's latched onto the conspiracy theorists mentallity. AND- as such- are sooo very typically- bein a biblehead- extremely NAIVE about True Spirituality and the Sacred times of the year/dates, such as the 21st June, as recognised and marked by Ancient Cultures, or the ignorant "Pagans."
The Summer Solstice, is not only, solely- used by "Satanists," per se. THEY merely hijack these significant times of year for their own twisted and nefarious ends. Real Spirit is Au Naturale and runs readily, swiftly, through the organic Earthean system via living "Ley-Lines" or energy meridians, same as whats goin on in our bodies. Stone Circles act as the needles do in Acupuncture, helping along and focusing intent- and consciousness- into the Wholistic Sacred Planetary Flow where impedence has occured in the larger body. The Earth is ALIVE and has an inhabiting SPIRIT form- one So Vast in comparison to our limited minds as to be currently incomprehensible to most- to those that live in the mind/ego, and books.
Summer Solstice is used by MANY MORE, much, much more than the "Satanists," as a time of TOGETHERNESS, as a time of Celebration of LIFE, of being ALIVE, a time for having real Good FUN!- for ENJOYING. That's what upwards of 20-30,000 people will be doin' at Stonehenge this 20-21st June, and at Glastonbury etc, ETC! Feeding in Positive, FREEDOM enhancing, Livin' Vibes at THE most important and "Sacred" Sites on the whole Planet! The Elite tried to hijack Stonehenge durin the mid to late 80's- BUT FAILED in the long term! The "Satanists" haven't a chance of ultimate success, silly bastards, they are always fools unto themselves! For WE- the true Spirits/People of the Earth- are Exceeding them in intent and overall Purpose, and WE will always have the upper hand, no matter how much FEAR and trepidation they project onto us..... What we do together at these particular times and places, always influences the WHOLE- absolutely! Consciousness runs through the Whole Planet, and is enabled to be concentrated at certain times/places, and i'm so glad to SEE and meet so many Beautiful Spiritual Souls, there and then.
Ain't no seperation 'tween us and Spirit.
Da.

bananaman
09-06-2007, 08:46 PM
da renn:
The Earth is ALIVE and has an inhabiting SPIRIT form- one So Vast in comparison to our limited minds as to be currently incomprehensible to most- to those that live in the mind/ego, and books.

Um, the earth is a planet. What is this "inhabiting spirit"? It's incomprehensible to people with enquiring minds who look to read what other people have to say about it?

And if you don't live in the mind/ego, and read books, where do you live?

Bananaman (who doesn't know what to say).

da renn
09-06-2007, 09:07 PM
da renn:


Um, the earth is a planet. What is this "inhabiting spirit"? It's incomprehensible to people with enquiring minds who look to read what other people have to say about it?

And if you don't live in the mind/ego, and read books, where do you live?

Bananaman (who doesn't know what to say).
Gawd Streuth!
I don't wanna put folk down, but some things are obvious, if'n you attempt to seriously enquire beyond the ego/mind. Some of us have HAD TO.
I've realised that Everything LIVES, Life is Alive SPIRITUALLY, Eternally. There ain't no "death," as we see it in our modern world. Death is an ILLUSION, we are Spiritual Beings! And thus, are Alive FOREVER More.
All of physical matter has a Spirit within IT, just as YOU do, in your physical body.

bananaman
09-06-2007, 09:21 PM
Yes, but I'm alive. The earth has various cycles and systems going on which lead on to other arguments on these boards but the last time I looked it wasn't actually a living organism. It, through a combination of luck and situation, has given rise to life.

Life and non-life isn't too tricky a distinction.

Bananaman (The Amused).

zircon
09-06-2007, 09:40 PM
Yes, but I'm alive. The earth has various cycles and systems going on which lead on to other arguments on these boards but the last time I looked it wasn't actually a living organism. It, through a combination of luck and situation, has given rise to life.

Life and non-life isn't too tricky a distinction.

Bananaman (The Amused).

Your remarks are completely off this thread, of course, but, in case it helps you to keep to the point, how exactly are you alive? What parts of Earth are not living? When does matter (even 'innate' matter) cease to move and to be fundamental to life? How much of your life depends on luck? Have you ever questioned what "life" and "luck" actually mean, or do you accept them as dogma because you don't like to feel insecure about what you are certain is true?

bananaman
09-06-2007, 09:57 PM
Zircon:
how exactly are you alive?

I'm busy munching a bacon roll. I'm not sure granite does that. I vaguely remember the definition of life is something that reproduces and consumes in order to grow - plus a few others I've forgotten. My own definition would be more closely allied to every cell in your body having DNA in it (apart from red blood cells, I think, not that that matters. Perhaps you're right, perhaps I'm not alive. Perhaps I'm a tin of spaghetti loops. That might explain a lot).

Zircon:
What parts of Earth are not living?

The bits that are not actually biological living organisms maybe? Like, nearly all of it?

Zircon:
When does matter (even 'innate' matter) cease to move and to be fundamental to life?

You did do science at school I'm taking it?

Zircon:
How much of your life depends on luck?

Well, the lottery ticket I bought this week is pretty dependant on it. Being serious, that's a big question about how life began and I have no more answers than you, but I'd say it's pretty certain that life on this planet originated on this planet. I'm willing to argue that one if you like.

Zircon:
Have you ever questioned what "life" and "luck" actually mean, or do you accept them as dogma because you don't like to feel insecure about what you are certain is true?

Dogma? Acceptance? Life and luck? You seem to have gone into 'spraying meaningless tags' mode. I'm just interested in the truth and I don't dismiss evidence just because it's taught in schools and universities. I try and look at all the evidence and understand it. I often fail, but I do my best to keep my eyes open.

Bananaman (Big bacon roll burp).

cleft_asunder
09-06-2007, 10:06 PM
Yes, but I'm alive. The earth has various cycles and systems going on which lead on to other arguments on these boards but the last time I looked it wasn't actually a living organism. It, through a combination of luck and situation, has given rise to life.

Life and non-life isn't too tricky a distinction.

Bananaman (The Amused).

Not that it wasn't obvious enough that the Earth is conciouss (as is everything), here is some more evidence. Earth is in fact growing:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

avatar
09-06-2007, 10:07 PM
Why do certain posters turn these threads into a daft circus?
Sorry 2Tuff, you are an intelligent mind.
You're an avid believer in "Jesus" and a STAUNCH Biblehead, who's latched onto the conspiracy theorists mentallity. AND- as such- are sooo very typically- bein a biblehead- extremely NAIVE about True Spirituality and the Sacred times of the year/dates, such as the 21st June, as recognised and marked by Ancient Cultures, or the ignorant "Pagans."
The Summer Solstice, is not only, solely- used by "Satanists," per se. THEY merely hijack these significant times of year for their own twisted and nefarious ends. Real Spirit is Au Naturale and runs readily, swiftly, through the organic Earthean system via living "Ley-Lines" or energy meridians, same as whats goin on in our bodies. Stone Circles act as the needles do in Acupuncture, helping along and focusing intent- and consciousness- into the Wholistic Sacred Planetary Flow where impedence has occured in the larger body. The Earth is ALIVE and has an inhabiting SPIRIT form- one So Vast in comparison to our limited minds as to be currently incomprehensible to most- to those that live in the mind/ego, and books.
Summer Solstice is used by MANY MORE, much, much more than the "Satanists," as a time of TOGETHERNESS, as a time of Celebration of LIFE, of being ALIVE, a time for having real Good FUN!- for ENJOYING. That's what upwards of 20-30,000 people will be doin' at Stonehenge this 20-21st June, and at Glastonbury etc, ETC! Feeding in Positive, FREEDOM enhancing, Livin' Vibes at THE most important and "Sacred" Sites on the whole Planet! The Elite tried to hijack Stonehenge durin the mid to late 80's- BUT FAILED in the long term! The "Satanists" haven't a chance of ultimate success, silly bastards, they are always fools unto themselves! For WE- the true Spirits/People of the Earth- are Exceeding them in intent and overall Purpose, and WE will always have the upper hand, no matter how much FEAR and trepidation they project onto us..... What we do together at these particular times and places, always influences the WHOLE- absolutely! Consciousness runs through the Whole Planet, and is enabled to be concentrated at certain times/places, and i'm so glad to SEE and meet so many Beautiful Spiritual Souls, there and then.
Ain't no seperation 'tween us and Spirit.
Da.

Actually 2tuff is the complete opposite of what you say. He is no believer in Jesus, is not a biblehead and is far from naive. Your jaded ramblings about solstice, satanism and parties just goes to show that you don't really know that much about dates, their meanings and Astro-theology.

da renn
09-06-2007, 10:13 PM
[QUOTE=bananaman;56469]Zircon:


"I'm busy munching a bacon roll."
There ya go, right there!
Excessive bias is always funny to others, yes. But these typo' folk can never see beyond their physical vantage points! The "Bare" necessaties of Spirit and Life, Elude them.

da renn
09-06-2007, 10:14 PM
Actually 2tuff is the complete opposite of what you say. He is no believer in Jesus, is not a biblehead and is far from naive. Your jaded ramblings about solstice, satanism and parties just goes to show that you don't really know that much about dates, their meanings and Astro-theology.

Oh, i SEE- i soooo stand corrected. Believe what you wish to, mate, i shall KNOW- experiencially- elsewith!

bananaman
09-06-2007, 10:14 PM
cleft_asunder:
Not that it wasn't obvious enough that the Earth is conciouss

You're positive about that? Does the earth have emotions? Is it on anti-depressant medication at the moment to make it feel better? I'm beginning to worry about how it's feeling. It should have it's own reality tv show to keep us updated on how it feels.

Bananaman (Honestly, I wonder sometimes).

zircon
09-06-2007, 10:30 PM
[QUOTE=bananaman;56469]
I vaguely remember the definition of life is something that reproduces and consumes in order to grow - plus a few others I've forgotten. My own definition would be more closely allied to every cell in your body having DNA in it (apart from red blood cells, I think, not that that matters. [QUOTE]

You don't seem to care much about anything apart from your bacon roll.

[QUOTE=bananaman;56469]
The bits that are not actually biological living organisms maybe? Like, nearly all of it? [QUOTE]

Even the school books you don't remember say that life is more than that. Perhaps you should go back and read them again.

[QUOTE=bananaman;56469] Well, the lottery ticket I bought this week is pretty dependant on it. Being serious, that's a big question about how life began and I have no more answers than you, but I'd say it's pretty certain that life on this planet originated on this planet. I'm willing to argue that one if you like. [QUOTE]

Panspermia, if you can think seriously for a minute, is a recent sientific theory that demonstrates that life probably did come to this planet through space. Even your teachers at school will be able to tell you something about it. Carl Sagan famously remarked that life forms have probably visited this planet more than 500 times since the earth was formed.

But, as you're so sure of your own ideas, tell us how you know that life originated on this planet.

[QUOTE=bananaman;56469] Dogma? Acceptance? Life and luck? You seem to have gone into 'spraying meaningless tags' mode. I'm just interested in the truth and I don't dismiss evidence just because it's taught in schools and universities. I try and look at all the evidence and understand it. I often fail, but I do my best to keep my eyes open. [QUOTE]

No only meaningless if you don't stop to think about them. If you keep your eyes open that may do you some good.

This thread has been hijacked by a fairly pointless argument. if you have something ou want to say about the origins of life and you reasons for thinking you know better than anyone else, put them on another thead.

All the best and good luck with your sandwich.

lookfar
09-06-2007, 10:35 PM
This thread has been hijacked by a fairly pointless argument. if you have something ou want to say about the origins of life and you reasons for thinking you know better than anyone else, put them on another thead.

All the best and good luck with your sandwich.

Well said zircon, couldn't agree more, it would be good to get back on track here...:)

bananaman
09-06-2007, 10:39 PM
Zircon:
But, as you're so sure of your own ideas, tell us how you know that life originated on this planet.

I'm glad you asked. The simple answer is the distances involved.

Bananaman (Trying to think what else to answer in Zircon's post but just looks bemused).

the festival spirit
10-06-2007, 03:12 AM
Wow great research there 2tuff.

Perhaps it might be an idea for a forum experiment as an attempt to combat this??? Although I'm not sure what we could do.... suggestions anyone???

Please get in touch lookfar, I know you mightnot want to. I respect eevrything you do and say, everything.

s

the festival spirit
10-06-2007, 03:29 AM
There are limits. I thought the thread was a mickey take when I read the initial post. Please tell me this thread isn't actually being taken seriously by anyone.

Bananaman (In Shock).

go away Bananaman, I could name others too, but dare not.

It's a discussion, bananaman. You know...where people share ideas.

I like to think of this forum as a place where people can say whatever is on their mind, no matter how strange it sounds, because as we've all learned - Truth is stranger than fiction.

So, open your mind a little bit. You might learn something.

Depending on what you'd provide to back up your statement.

Clearly you don't know enough about obvious phallic worship around the world and 'mythological' god worship within NASA to recognize the important symbolism in this thread.

You have some catching up to do.

I recommend you start with The Biggest Secret. (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12) That should give you a good idea of what you're looking at around you but not seeing.

So, there's a lot to learn if you're serious about learning ;)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/loserr.gif



I don't want to see this thread moved to the rant room, so all I'll say is:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/robot.gif

Yeah me neither Tin.

Hmmm...
http://www.primatestore.com/clipart/bananas_md_wht.gif http://www.primatestore.com/clipart/coconut_md_wht.gif

I am way stronger than being reduced to using other peoples words to make my point, but I am doing so now, to make my point and I am using peoples words because I love and respect them. no pun or offence intended

Concerning world events

I pray to the universe not a damn thing changes in July,We should all get together and hope only for truth and spiritual evolution on our planet.

Miles
Well said zircon, couldn't agree more, it would be good to get back on track here...:)

EDIT: to say poor edit

2tuff
10-06-2007, 03:39 AM
My friends I simply notice certain big events and because I'm aware of how the Sovereign Military Order of Malta Papal System think and work I look for possible connections. Its not that hard once you know how they use numerology etc and you keep on top of World events as I do.

Hi 2tuff,

Great post!!......very interesting......I only noticed this morning that the space shuttle had taken off on an 11 day mission while reading a news website and I also noticed on the site that President Bush is doing a tour of Europe at the moment.

Thanks I try to be of use to the people who wish to learn a little more. Yes its very interesting that Knight of the Virgin, George W. Bush is now in Europe and with his master, the POPE:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/20070609064909990005.jpghttp://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/20070609081709990003.jpg

Note his Servility, once again dressed in Black as is Laura Bush. Remember his Father is a Sovereign Military Order of Malta Papal Knight just like his Grandfather was. You should also note that his Great Grandfather, George Herbert Walker was trained at Jesuit Stonyhurst "Military Fortress" College in England. You should also be aware that Jeb Bush is a 3rd Degree Knight of Columbus. Their all fully subordinate to the Pope and the SUPERIOR JESUIT GENERAL.

SMOM Bush SNR with his master - Pic (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/20070609081709990003.jpg)

I remember watching a film called Conspiracy Theory it stared Mel Gibson as Jerry Fletcher, an eccentric taxi driver who believed that many negative world events were actually government conspiracies.

You must remember that Hollywood is controlled by the Sovereign Military Order of Malta "Greatest Merchants on Earth," along with the Mafiosi. Don't fall for the Sabbatian Apostate Court Jew front for you to blame whilst the real shadow men stay in the veils. You may not already know it but the Gibson's are a front and their deep Roman Catholics and both Opus "Work of God" Dei members. You should also be made aware of the connection of the Sheen family to the Society of Jesus

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/MelFULCO.jpg

You will notice Mel Gibson above with his good friend Fr' William J Fulco SJ, a highly regarded high Vow Jesuit. It was this Jesuit that did most the work on 'The Passion of Christ' movie.

Hello

Why do certain posters turn these threads into a daft circus?
Sorry 2Tuff, you are an intelligent mind.
You're an avid believer in "Jesus" and a STAUNCH Biblehead, who's latched onto the conspiracy theorists mentallity. AND- as such- are sooo very typically- bein a biblehead- extremely NAIVE about True Spirituality and the Sacred times of the year/dates, such as the 21st June, as recognised and marked by Ancient Cultures, or the ignorant "Pagans."

Because theres an aweful lot of amateurs and people who simply have no idea yet think they know it all. Unfortunately sites like this will attract many of these people. They are ill-educated but believe the opposite. They believe the illusional World they live within is Sane whilst anything else is insane. These people do not realise that what the Elders have taught them is the opposite of what really goes on. They forget the Sovereign Military Order of Malta control the Education system via the Encylopedas secret society and the Robert Mueller School. The system they live within was actually created by the Knights Templars of which the Sovereign Military Order of Malta carried on with.

For the final time, I do not believe in the Bible infact I expose its myths and codes my friend. I'm not a Christian or any religion. I simply use an avatar of "the most powerful man on the planet," known as the Superior Jesuit General. Just because the Jesuits are religious (well its a front) and I expose them, doesn't mean I'm religious.

2tuff
10-06-2007, 03:43 AM
Another date to look out for:-

On the 17th of July Pluto conjuncts the Galactic Centre in retrograde.

Quote:
On 17th July 2007, Pluto once again exactly conjuncts the Galactic Centre, whilst it's going retrograde (Pluto, that is - we'd be in really deep trouble if the Galactic Centre started going retrograde). So now we really get to see where and how we are still resisting Universal / Divine Will, and we will come to realise that Resistance Is Futile! If we are a part of the Oneness (and how could we possibly not be) then we ultimately have no choice but to follow the Universal Will.


Quote:

The "Healing Crisis"
At the Retrograde Conjunction Of Pluto / GC on 17th July 2007 at 22.25 BAT (Baghdad Time = 19.25 UT/GMT), Pluto's Meridian line will be passing over Mecca, and within a few minutes of that over Aksum, Ethiopia, probably the last resting place of the Ark of the Covenant, which contained the ancient codes of the First Ray energies of Divine Will. This will renew the First Ray impulse within the Islamic and Judaeo-Christian traditions, and continue to root out any distortions within their teachings which have come about over the centuries.


http://www.cabiz.net/zolaric/pluto.htm

Take It In Blood:

the new dude is yet another admiral. So this is like all marine/naval dudes in power of Military, talking about attacking Iran with those ships of course .

tinmenace
10-06-2007, 03:54 AM
Thank you 2tuff for your work.

lookfar
10-06-2007, 03:56 AM
Good to see this is back on track now 2tuff :)

Well more interesting info to digest here, plus those creepy pics!! I didn't realise the connection with Gibson, although I'm not at all surprised now that you've pointed it out.

Also interesting about the 17th July 2007 being another date to look out for. That's also the date of the Fire the Earth Grid event, although that's taking place at 11.11 GMT...

Thanks for sharing.

2tuff
10-06-2007, 06:07 AM
Now for a stunning picture that tells a million truths:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/Egan-BushII.jpg

Knight of the Virgin, George W. Bush with his master SMOM Military Vicar Edward Michael Egan.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/al_smith_dinner.jpg

Remember folks George H.W Bush is a SMOM Papal Knight. Jeb Bush is a 3rd Degree Knight of Columbus. Remember Prescott Bush was a SMOM Papal Knight and Prescott JR if I remember is a SMOM Papal Knight. Now remember that Bush SNR's Grandfather was George Herbert Walker and he was trained at JESUIT Stonyhurst "Military Fortress" College.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/bush-gore-egan.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/e4422Al-Smith-320bigger.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/bush_6-011.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/JuancarlosGWbushGhWbush-1.jpg
SMOM Papal Knight Middle East commander JUAN CARLOS.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/SMOMKingCarloandSMOMBERTIE.jpg
Juan Carlos with his master, 78th Grandmaster and Prince, Cardinal Andrew Bertie

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/sec125_pic2.jpg
Now Juan is important enough to meet the SUPERIOR JESUIT GENERAL himself, Peter Hans Kolvenbach.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/20070609064909990005.jpg

Enough Said, Wake UP!

-Craig Oxley

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Seeing as you liked the pics I'd put these online. Now its back to the subject of this thread from now on.

2tuff
10-06-2007, 06:08 AM
Now for a stunning picture that tells a million truths:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/Egan-BushII.jpg

Knight of the Virgin, George W. Bush with his master SMOM Military Vicar Edward Michael Egan

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/al_smith_dinner.jpg

Remember folks George H.W Bush is a SMOM Papal Knight. Jeb Bush is a 3rd Degree Knight of Columbus. Remember Prescott Bush was a SMOM Papal Knight and Prescott JR if I remember is a SMOM Papal Knight. Now remember that Bush SNR's Grandfather was George Herbert Walker and he was trained at JESUIT Stonyhurst "Military Fortress" College.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/bush-gore-egan.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/e4422Al-Smith-320bigger.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/bush_6-011.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/JuancarlosGWbushGhWbush-1.jpg
SMOM Papal Knight Middle East commander JUAN CARLOS.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/SMOMKingCarloandSMOMBERTIE.jpg
Juan Carlos with his master, 78th Grandmaster and Prince, Cardinal Andrew Bertie

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/sec125_pic2.jpg
Now Juan is important enough to meet the SUPERIOR JESUIT GENERAL himself, Peter Hans Kolvenbach.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/20070609064909990005.jpg

Enough Said, Wake UP!

-Craig Oxley

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Seeing as you liked the pics I'd put these online. Now its back to the subject of this thread from now on.

viginti tres
10-06-2007, 06:10 AM
"Persecution, without prior investigation is the height of ignorance" - Einstein

Excellent observations 2tuff and as allways I leave your posts with knowledge previously unknown to me (the Sheen's connection to the Society of Jesus, hmmmmmm, do you have any evidence of this as I'd very much like to see it) so thanks for doing the research.

The 17th of July should be interesting, I've noticed an incredible increase in discordant and visceral energy lately and have had to 'switch off' at times the energy has been so intense, which could have something to do with the effects of Pluto as this increase in energy has coincided with Pluto's movement (have any of the other 'energy sensitives' on the forum noticed this).....either way lets stay positive leading up to and on this date, as with the other dates you mentioned 2tuff.

P.S. The top quote is not isolating a certain member/or members of the forum, it is a reminder to everyone that no person knows it all and to think you do confirms nothing but your own ignorance... be aware, awake, alive and keep growing.

Power to the peaceful.

Mitchell.

2tuff
10-06-2007, 06:21 AM
emerge:

And worth mentioning too, during the Queen's recent US visit to Jamestown, she received a special call from the ISS (ISIS).

July 11th, 1979: Skylab crashes into Australia

After breaking up in the atmosphere, the American space station Skylab comes crashing down on Australia and into the Indian Ocean five years after its last manned mission ended. No one was injured. Launched in 1973, Skylab was the world's first successful space station, safely able to house three separate three-man crews for extended periods of time. Originally the spent third stage of a Saturn 5 moon rocket, the cylinder-shaped station was 118-feet tall, weighed 77 tons, and carried an assortment of scientific equipment. The crews of Skylab spent more than 700 hours observing the sun and also provided important information about the biological effects of living in space for prolonged periods of time.
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/this_day_in_history/this_day_July_11.php.

2tuff
10-06-2007, 06:30 AM
Excellent observations 2tuff and as allways I leave your posts with knowledge previously unknown to me (the Sheen's connection to the Society of Jesus, hmmmmmm, do you have any evidence of this as I'd very much like to see it) so thanks for doing the research.

Yes it was I that blew the lid off the Sheen family and their Jesuit connections.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/images/0630-01.jpg
Jesuit Fr. Bill O'Donnell of St.Joseph
the Worker in Berkeley with actor Martin
Sheen (Photo/National Catholic Reporter Online)

For more on the subject check out my article from 26 March 2006:

THE SHEEN FAMILY STENCH OF THE ALMIGHTY JESUIT ORDER
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=7257

the festival spirit
10-06-2007, 07:06 AM
Yes it was I that blew the lid off the Sheen family and their Jesuit connections.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/images/0630-01.jpg
Jesuit Fr. Bill O'Donnell of St.Joseph
the Worker in Berkeley with actor Martin
Sheen (Photo/National Catholic Reporter Online)

For more on the subject check out my article from 26 March 2006:

THE SHEEN FAMILY STENCH OF THE ALMIGHTY JESUIT ORDER
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=7257


The guy in black looks like the guy who called the police on two 911 truthers.

2tuff, can you tell me, If the meaning of the STS projects is to harm earth and if so when?

My research tells me there are weapons and survival pods on these things that can extend themselves to 20 kilometres long. Who are the survival pods for ?

(I think there are about 200 or more of these massive things in the sky above our planet (please correct me If I am wrong)

the festival spirit
10-06-2007, 07:07 AM
And also do they have anything to do with the things that are appearing in the skys above the UK and other parts of teh world?

Cheers

viginti tres
10-06-2007, 07:30 AM
Yes it was I that blew the lid off the Sheen family and their Jesuit connections.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/images/0630-01.jpg
Jesuit Fr. Bill O'Donnell of St.Joseph
the Worker in Berkeley with actor Martin
Sheen (Photo/National Catholic Reporter Online)

For more on the subject check out my article from 26 March 2006:

THE SHEEN FAMILY STENCH OF THE ALMIGHTY JESUIT ORDER
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=7257

:eek:

Ok thanks for that, what is that on Sheen's face, is it something to do with the ritual they are performing.....

bananaman
10-06-2007, 07:38 AM
go away Bananaman, I could name others too, but dare not.

Good to see you tackling alternate views with an open mind.

On 17th July 2007, Pluto once again exactly conjuncts the Galactic Centre, whilst it's going retrograde (Pluto, that is - we'd be in really deep trouble if the Galactic Centre started going retrograde).

Pluto isn't even classified as a planet anymore. It's a big ball of ice way out on the fringes of our solar system. Our solar system isn't anywhere close to the centre of our galaxy, the milky way, so how Pluto can "conjunct" with its centre is a bit bewildering but I'll let it pass. Also, can you clarify if you mean Pluto or our galaxy is going "retrograde" and what that's supposed to mean. I'm genuinely curious about that. It doesn't seem to mean anything to me, but I'm willing to be enlightened. Contrary to some people's views I don't claim to know everything.

And I'm puzzled as to what Mel Gibson and Martin Sheen, who are both rather uninteresting Hollywood actors, have to do with anything important. Are they secretly directing world events? Which of us is dreaming here?

And The Queen getting phonecalls? So? I had a phonecall from a government organisation last week. Is that significant too?

I'm also perturbed at the real bile directed towards religion. I'm no fan of religion but I don't believe it's the work of the devil, just delusion. You're really going down hypocritical paths when you pour out paranoia and hatred at something you accuse of doing the same while claiming the moral high ground.

Pluto's Meridian line will be passing over Mecca, and within a few minutes of that over Aksum, Ethiopia, probably the last resting place of the Ark of the Covenant, which contained the ancient codes of the First Ray energies of Divine Will. This will renew the First Ray impulse within the Islamic and Judaeo-Christian traditions, and continue to root out any distortions within their teachings which have come about over the centuries.

Returning to the same post again, does the above paragraph make anything resembling sense to you? A big ball of ice minding its own business is, by continuing in its orbit, going to somehow "root out distortions" in a couple of religions that have apparently taken centuries to occur? And while we're at it, can you expand on what "ray impulses" are? It's another meaningless phrase.

What worries me about all this is the attitude that everyone must wake up to what you think is really going on in the world. The idea that you've somehow accessed the secret machinations behind the facade, but when asked to explain how you've done it resort to astrology and, to my eyes, bizarre leaps in logic that don't seem to bother you.

Bananaman (The Concerned).

the festival spirit
10-06-2007, 07:44 AM
Good to see you tackling alternate views with an open mind.


Bananaman (The Concerned).

lol OK I retract that statement, come and join us with an open mind bananaman :)

EDIT: lets face it we never know who we are talking to really in 'cyberspace'

Well, I'm debating points raised in this thread and asking for a response. I don't know what else I'm supposed to do.

Bananaman.

You could try saying, I don't really get this can anyone explain to me ......... instead of making your mind up before you post that certain things are wrong because you do not understand. :) peace brother

bananaman
10-06-2007, 07:45 AM
Well, I'm debating points raised in this thread and asking for a response. I don't know what else I'm supposed to do.

Bananaman.

tru3
10-06-2007, 08:00 AM
It's a discussion, bananaman. You know...where people share ideas.

I like to think of this forum as a place where people can say whatever is on their mind, no matter how strange it sounds, because as we've all learned - Truth is stranger than fiction.

So, open your mind a little bit. You might learn something.


well said. we can't make new connections or examine old ones if our minds are closed. one sees what one wants to see, at times.

zircon
10-06-2007, 10:39 AM
2tuff:
I'd like to say that I found the photographic material supplied by 2tuff interesting and revealing. I have some knowledge about Stonyhurst College and its connections, and had the 'privilege' of meeting HRH QEII there some years ago - a spooky experience I can tell you, but one where I discovered something of importance.

vginti tres: It's worth remembering that from an astrological point of view, Pluto continues its retrograde motion until 1 September and that 17 July has no special importance for Pluto (as its position relative to the galactic centre continues for a very long period of time..) other than in the context of the grand trines and square being formed at the times I mentioned in my previous post, in June and July, and on 18 june Pluto will be in opposition to the sun; this could be an interesting day for events - let's see.

Bananaman, I'm glad you're back and your remarks about conventional science are definitely worth taking into account, I agree, don't let anyone claiming to have "superior knowledge" tell you what's what. That includes the conventional scientists, not only people on this forum who hold their own independent views that may be different from the norm!
Regarding the astrological definitions that I used myself, you can of course take them of leave them but personally I have discovered that there is evidence of a concordance between planetary positions and events on earth, particularly when some symbolic elements are involved that might be interesting to an initiated group of people wanting to communicate silently (and not necessarily for humanitarian reasons). Whether or not planetary forces influence our world is another discussion, that I'd be happy to have on the thread I started entitled Astrology.

However, I do want to add that I've found the increase in sarcasm (of which I'm guilty too) that appeared on this thread not really conducive to a logical discussion, and in other places I'd have to agree there seems to be a 'we know it all' view soemtimes so I'd certainly welcome rational and factual analysis in all our threads, based on evidence (such as the photos supplied by 2tuff) or reasonable conjecture and argument, not just hotly-expressed opinion or ridicule.. and I guess most people would go along with that..?

da renn
10-06-2007, 01:44 PM
2tuff:
"Enough Said, Wake UP!"


There are many ways to- mentally- "Wake Up" as you say. Most people say "wake up" based upon their supposed superior, or at least clearer, collected knowledge! Which is strongly egoic- it aint REALLY "Wakin' Up!"
I hope your work, works 2tuff. I Hope it reaches those you wish it to reach.
But it ain't for me. I know the world powers are corrupt and manipulative- that's sooo fuckin obvious!
I don't need it detailed- ad infinitum.

Only True Awakening will change anything at all!
The Awakening Within, to Spirit, to Life and of IT'S Absolute Entirety! Pure Awareness,
Infinite Love and ALL. THAT'S the main impulse guiding ALL things these days.
Anything else is just pure distraction, distracting YOU from YOURSELF.
Wake Up! SPIRITUALLY.
Da-Renn.

da renn
10-06-2007, 02:01 PM
"Actually 2tuff is the complete opposite of what you say. He is no believer in Jesus, is not a biblehead and is far from naive. Your jaded ramblings about solstice, satanism and parties just goes to show that you don't really know that much about dates, their meanings and Astro-theology."

And oh yeah, you're a stupid, ignorant, arse lickin' son of a......
Jaded indeed! Ha ha ha!
I Love Ya!
Da.

viginti tres
10-06-2007, 02:13 PM
vginti tres: It's worth remembering that from an astrological point of view, Pluto continues its retrograde motion until 1 September and that 17 July has no special importance for Pluto (as its position relative to the galactic centre continues for a very long period of time..) other than in the context of the grand trines and square being formed at the times I mentioned in my previous post, in June and July, and on 18 june Pluto will be in opposition to the sun; this could be an interesting day for events - let's see.

Ok thanks for that you obviously have quite a lot of knowledge on astrology and thats good, gives you a sense of whats to come ( unless you rely on what is written in the weekly Newspaper) -lets stay positive people we are all researching different things and adding observations that we have made so that they may be discussed.....it's just information no-one here is forcing anything on anyone (well most of the time anyway) so come on guys and gals, relax.....and hows this for syncronicity Ben Harpers song "We are all in this together" is playing in backround.......beautiful....and indeed zircon- let's see.

Power to the peaceful.

Mitchell.

da renn
10-06-2007, 02:28 PM
[QUOTE=viginti tres;56778]Ok thanks for that you obviously have quite a lot of knowledge on astrology and thats good, gives you a sense of whats to come ( unless you rely on what is written in the weekly Newspaper) -lets stay positive people we are all researching different things and adding observations that we have made so that they may be discussed.....it's just information no-one here is forcing anything on anyone (well most of the time anyway) so come on guys and gals, relax.....and hows this for syncronicity Ben Harpers song "We are all in this together" is playing in backround.......beautiful....and indeed zircon- let's see."

Yeah, the current Pluto Conjunction of Galactic Centre is a most intriguing, and pleasing Cosmic occurrence, and at just the right "time" so to speak! It's all about Transformation, personally and collectively- but more so individually! It's about HELPING along the sweeping changes that are TOTALLY necessary for our Spiritual GROWTH- or our REAL "Awakening." Of waking up from the sleep and dream of Ages.
Take advantage of this perfectly synchronised, Cosmic helping hand, for it's surely helping to lead you to your own- and everybody's- True Cosmic Self(ves) and Re-Enlightenment!
It's ALL about Spirit, always was- always will BE.

viginti tres
10-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Yeah, the current Pluto Conjunction of Galactic Centre is a most intriguing, and pleasing Cosmic occurrence, and at just the right "time" so to speak! It's all about Transformation, personally and collectively- but more so individually! It's about HELPING along the sweeping changes that are TOTALLY necessary for our Spiritual GROWTH- or our REAL "Awakening." Of waking up from the sleep and dream of Ages.
Take advantage of this perfectly synchronised, Cosmic helping hand, for it's surely helping to lead you to your own- and everybody's- True Cosmic Self(ves) and Re-Enlightenment!
It's ALL about Spirit, always was- always will BE.

I am with you all the one on that..... the infinity in me, I do see.....

"Matter is energy, energy is light, we are light beings!" - Albert Einstein.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May%202%202007/water_crystal.jpg

GRATITUDE

http://www.thank-water.net/image/earth200.gif

LOVE

http://www.healingjourneys.net/images/Visable/8.jpg

COMPASSION

mcmenek1
10-06-2007, 07:20 PM
On 17th July 2007, Pluto once again exactly conjuncts the Galactic Centre, whilst it's going retrograde (Pluto, that is - we'd be in really deep trouble if the Galactic Centre started going retrograde). So now we really get to see where and how we are still resisting Universal / Divine Will, and we will come to realise that Resistance Is Futile! If we are a part of the Oneness (and how could we possibly not be) then we ultimately have no choice but to follow the Universal Will.

Hi 2tuff,

Yea I think the position of Pluto at this time on 17th July 2007 is really significant.........it’s to do with the higher vibrational energies that will be generated at this time and the effect these higher vibrational energies will have on the Harmonic convergence and Earths regeneration........have a look at the position of Pluto in the far right hand column of the 13 Baktun Cycle Wave harmonic of History

http://www.tortuga.com/multimedia/2.html

When “The Powers That Be” demoted Pluto from being a Planet recently I though this was very suspicious because they know the true effect that Pluto’s position will eventually have on the Earth........could this demotion of Pluto have been a ploy to reduce it’s significance in our subconscious minds and somehow reduce its effect.....?


Also interesting about the 17th July 2007 being another date to look out for. That's also the date of the Fire the Earth Grid event, although that's taking place at 11.11 GMT...


Hi lookfar,

Yea I noticed that the Fire the Earth Grid event was on the same day 17th July 2007.......this got me thinking!!......the idea behind the Fire the Earth Grid event at 11:11 G.M.T. is to help balance the earths energy grid ......... the earths energy grid needs to be rebalanced before she can receive the higher vibrational energies that will be coming in........are these higher vibrational energies the energies that will be created by Pluto’s position later in the day on the 17th July 2007.....I think they could be!!!........


Love
&
Peace

bananaman
10-06-2007, 07:47 PM
You're serious, mcmenek1, aren't you? You really are serious?

Let's get a few things straight here. Astrology is nonsense. The orientation of the planets has no bearing on whether you'll trip over the dog tomorrow and bust your nose on the kitchen sink. Just because Saturn still has rings and is doing its thing doesn't mean you're going to meet the love of your life tomorrow or that World War Three is imminent.

Life is far more exciting than that. We're in control of our own destinies. It's down to us, like it or not. We're responsible for everything that happens, no-one else. It's all us.

I find that the most challenging and important part of being a human being. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Would you?

Bananaman.

da renn
10-06-2007, 07:53 PM
Hi 2tuff,

Yea I think the position of Pluto at this time on 17th July 2007 is really significant.........it’s to do with the higher vibrational energies that will be generated at this time and the effect these higher vibrational energies will have on the Harmonic convergence and Earths regeneration........have a look at the position of Pluto in the far right hand column of the 13 Baktun Cycle Wave harmonic of History

http://www.tortuga.com/multimedia/2.html

When “The Powers That Be” demoted Pluto from being a Planet recently I though this was very suspicious because they know the true effect that Pluto’s position will eventually have on the Earth........could this demotion of Pluto have been a ploy to reduce it’s significance in our subconscious minds and somehow reduce its effect.....?



Hi lookfar,

Yea I noticed that the Fire the Earth Grid event was on the same day 17th July 2007.......this got me thinking!!......the idea behind the Fire the Earth Grid event at 11:11 G.M.T. is to help balance the earths energy grid ......... the earths energy grid needs to be rebalanced before she can receive the higher vibrational energies that will be coming in........are these higher vibrational energies the energies that will be created by Pluto’s position later in the day on the 17th July 2007.....I think they could be!!!........


Love
&
Peace
Yeah, aside from all the negative shit most folk perpetually, even addictively, focus upon, much, MUCH Goodness is also occuring simultaneously, SYNCHRONISTICALLY- Positively, throughout the whole world! For the GOOD of ALL. Those that are being Free'd right Here & NOW, are those that were programmed to Spiritually "wake up" at this time, and are able to take note of whats goin' on intuitively, and seize upon the marvelous advantage to overcome darkness- which is being offered to ALL without distinctions. Those that are sensitive to these myriad Spiritual Impulses are those that are guiding the rest. Focus on Spirit, above ALL else!
Spirit is ALL that MATTERS. Spirit is the Source of any and ALL Matter(s).
Spirit is ALL that IS.
And YOU are Spirit!

zircon
10-06-2007, 09:01 PM
Hi I saw the Fire the earth grid thing too and their website intrigues me; I tend to feel that near-death experiences of beings of light are very meaningful and the message is imprtant. Shamans used to create near-death-type experiences to try tp receive such messages, and this one is worth listening to... I will participate on 17th at 11:11 GMT...

I don't agree that all astrology is rubbish, obviously from my other posts, but a good deal of it is... of the mass-market popular stuff. When you reach a certain level of sophistication with the natal chart, very individual future readings can be made; destiny is not entirely human-made, of course not, we do not all have the same birth conditions; and the influence of planets is not merely a question of driving destiny either... I'm sorry but to develop this discussion at a deeper level, we all need to start from a basis of having done a fair degree of research and practice in the matter, which I have been doing for around 25 years, in which time I've found some things that have amazed me - opened my eyes to extraordinary things - and others that I found frankly ridiculous, or at least woefully close to wishful thinking and even delusion. At best it is a great tool for awareness.

For those who disagree with this from a scientific standpoint, it's worth mentioning that Isaac Newton spent far more of his illustrious career studying astrology, than he did physics. Now that it is coming out more about the existence of photon light in the DNA, and light resonance in all matter across space, we can begin to see another level to this.

From Wikipedia: 'In his Hypothesis of Light of 1675, Newton posited the existence of the ether to transmit forces between particles. [this is a principle of astrology)]The contact with the theosophist Henry More, revived his interest in alchemy. He replaced the ether with occult forces based on Hermetic ideas of attraction and repulsion between particles. John Maynard Keynes, who acquired many of Newton's writings on alchemy, stated that "Newton was not the first of the age of reason: he was the last of the magicians."[5] Newton's interest in alchemy cannot be isolated from his contributions to science.[6] (This was at a time when there was no clear distinction between alchemy and science.) Had he not relied on the occult idea of action at a distance, across a vacuum, he might not have developed his theory of gravity.
Interestingly, he also believed that the Bible contained a hidden code and that its discovery would answer all questions about the future. He spent far longer on these studies (including the prophesies of Daniel, Ancient history before Alexander the Great, and the Apocalype) than he did on natural science and mathematics.

Now, Newton's Royal Academy was partly a masonic institution; and he himself possibly a Rosicrucian. The rose-cross is one of the oldest (and hermetic) traditions on the planet; although he had a view (which he passed on the the waiting world) of the mechanical unverse, he in fact felt that he was a bearer of a secret tradition that went back to the Chaldeans, the Magi (builders of the ancient stone monuments and watchers over humanity)
To quote the beliefs of Rosicrucians from the book "Occult Theocracy"

"The common principles, which
serve as a kind of centre of union to the Rosicrucian
society, are the following : They all maintain that the
dissolution of bodies, by the power of fire, is the only
way by which men can arrive at true wisdom, and come
to discern the first principles of things. They all acknowledge
a certain analogy and harmony between the
powers of nature and the doctrines of religion ; and
believe that the Deity governs the kingdom of grace
by the same laws with which he rules the kingdom of
nature ; and hence they are led to use chemical denominations
to express the truth of religion. They all
hold that there is a sort of divine energy, or soul,
diffused through the frame of the universe, which some
call the argheus, others the universal spirit, and which
others mention under different appellations. They all
talk in the most superstitious manner of what they
call the signatures of things, of the power of the stars,
over all corporeal beings, and their particular influence
upon the human race, of the efficacy of magic, and the
various ranks and orders of demons"

This man created modern science. (but he only told us the part that he wanted us to know about)

"Because they pretend to protect the period of human
life, by means of certain nostrums, and even to restore
youth, they were called Immortals ; as they pretended
to know all things, they have been called Illuminati".

"They bound themselves together by a solemn secret,
which they all swore inviolably to preserve"

"[This] was to be the universal
screen behind which all secret societies, whether
theurgic or political, would operate clandestinely.
Masonry with its proclamation of three philanthropic
and altruistic degrees, with no apparent real secret,
declaring itself Christian and non-political, would
become the centre in which ignorant men, recruited
and duped, could act like puppets animated by unseen
hands pulling unseen strings".

Newton was almost certainly part of this as were most of the members of the Royal Society. His interest in the occult - including very definitely astrology, hich was linked as we have seen to his belief that forces can be transmitted between particles and that stars have an influence on the human race, but that this knowledge should be kept from us by those who understood it and initiated in it.

So were does that leave "rational science"???

2tuff
11-06-2007, 03:15 AM
You should have noticed that on the 10th of June 2007 that the Osiris Phallic, Space Shuttle "ATLANTIS" docked with the ISIS, The ISS. What happened today? We had the conception of the SUN. What day was the 10th? SUNday! You should also note this event happened at exactly 7:38pm GMT this time in Greenwich Mean Time time. Why did they pick this time once again? Check out how high they were above the Wester Pacific Ocean. It works out at 220 miles which may mean something.

The Meaning of Yod as Ten

The word (yod) means “arm” or “hand” and the numeric value is ten. Now ten is a number marking shelemut, or completion and order, as evidenced by the following:

The base 10 number system is universal. Just as Yod is part of all of the previous letters of the alphabet (as a component), so Yod is part of all of the numbers. It is said by the sages the Yod does not mean 10 because we have ten toes and fingers but we have ten toes and fingers because Yod means 10.

There were ten things created on the first day and ten things created at the end of the sixth day of creation.

There were ten generations from Adam to Noah, suggesting that the godlessness of those generations was made complete.

There were ten generations from Noah to Abraham, suggesting that the godliness of those generations was made complete.

According to midrash, there were ten trials given to Abraham to demonstrate his merit as the father of the nations.

There were ten plagues issued during the Exodus of Egypt.

God gave us Ten Commandments.

The “tenth part” shall be holy for the LORD (Leviticus 27:32).

There are ten days of Awe - from Tishri 1 to Tishri 10, culminating in Yom Kippur, which occurs on the 10th day of Tishri.

Ten men are required for a minyan, or complete quorum needed for Jewish corporate prayer.

(Jewish mysticism) There are ten forces of the “Tree of Life,” called Sefirot, that depict the metaphysical working of God in the universe.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html

Remember that the Phallic/Yod is the SUN God's Penis:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/mum_obelisk_stone_lg.jpg

Remember folks Osiris is the Egyptian god of FERTILITY, life and death. I think we should be looking also at the positions of the belts of Orion.

Want more on the Yod and Yoni? Click HERE (http://s13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=25672)

synergy777
11-06-2007, 04:51 PM
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/
goro is a genius, does any1 know anything about him/her, etc, i mailed got no reply, guess we are too low to be acknowledged, lol anyway the work on the site is awesome, really top notch, go and enjoy the great site.

good stuff 2tuff, nice 1 bro.

infinitetruth
11-06-2007, 06:06 PM
You're serious, mcmenek1, aren't you? You really are serious?

Let's get a few things straight here. Astrology is nonsense. The orientation of the planets has no bearing on whether you'll trip over the dog tomorrow and bust your nose on the kitchen sink. Just because Saturn still has rings and is doing its thing doesn't mean you're going to meet the love of your life tomorrow or that World War Three is imminent.

Life is far more exciting than that. We're in control of our own destinies. It's down to us, like it or not. We're responsible for everything that happens, no-one else. It's all us.

I find that the most challenging and important part of being a human being. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Would you?

Bananaman.

There is scientific evidence that solar activity (sun spots) can effect peoples lives here on earth. http://www.nasca.org.uk/Strange_Maps/solar/Solar_Flare/solar_flare.html
It may not prove that planet alignment effects the earth - but this proves that planets DO effect our lives. It has also been scientifically proven that the full moon effects our health. Many doctors observe the moon when scheduling operations.
It is also interesting to note that astrology gave birth to astronomy and many serious astronomers have respect and a keen interest in astrology.

infinitetruth
11-06-2007, 06:08 PM
that earth growing vid is amazing. I seem to remember at the last solar eclipse a scientist confirmed that our sun was getting bigger too.

december
12-06-2007, 03:14 AM
You'll also notice that Satanic Celebrations in June and July fall on these dates:

Jun 17 Corpus Christi
Jun 20
Jun 21 Feast Day
Jun 22 Summer Solstice 1
Jun 23

Jul 01 Demon Revels
Jul 20-26
Jul 27 Grand Climax
Jul. 31 Lammas

Now take note how its only one day after the Shuttle lands that we have the start of the next June Satanic celebrations. Whats also interesting is that my July 22 wonderings then fits directly in with the Jul 20-26 Satanic dates


Hello, 2tuff. Nice to see you again... :)

2tuff, what do you mean by Satanic dates?
Is it a Christian terminology?...

armoured saint
12-06-2007, 04:26 AM
Thinking of the obelisk and it's repeated assertion by alternative scholars, that it represents a penis, I thought that perhaps we are being too obsessive about this piece of anatomy. Maybe were watching too much porn.

I think that it represents the sun's rays. Having it scattered around ancient Egyptian cities is probably a display of the sun's relationship to earth and it's necessity to bear life.

Of course it means the same thing when we say fertility and penis, giving life (splashing semen, splashing the suns rays), but do we have to BEAT about the bush? (err sorry):)

http://www.pushindaisies.com/candypress/ProdImages/mum_obelisk_stone_lg.jpg

december
12-06-2007, 08:34 PM
Remember that the Phallic/Yod is the SUN God's Penis:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/mum_obelisk_stone_lg.jpg

So, what is the point? Is it supposed to be SCARY? :D

Is that what people in Vatican want us to think?...
2tuff, we live in the 21 century you know...

:)

december
12-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Of course it means the same thing when we say fertility and penis, giving life (splashing semen, splashing the suns rays), but do we have to BEAT about the bush? (err sorry):)

I think 2tuff started an anti-penis war...
It makes you wonder WHY...

:)

tinmenace
12-06-2007, 11:30 PM
I think 2tuff started an anti-penis war...
It makes you wonder WHY...

:)

Probably because he doesn't validate or define his life by his penis.

:)

armoured saint
13-06-2007, 08:37 AM
Looking at ancient Greek architecture. It is most likely that the cloumns represent the relationship of Sun and Earth.

http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/0/3/Q/GreekColumnComparison-l.jpg

The foundation being the earth, connected with the sun's rays. The roof being the sun. The roof(sun) also drawn in with divinities. Perhaps a reference of where the Gods are from and where we are going.

quiettraveller
17-06-2007, 12:46 PM
Da Renn, re: Fire the Grid, what do you think?

zircon
17-06-2007, 04:44 PM
They are looking for 144,000 participants I believe... (tht number having obvious powerful significance)
Personally I will be doing it. It's worth a shot. These are troubled times and I am sure that concerted spiritual love vibrations, can create important changes. So I encourage all those who believe in the growing ethical vibration, to take part.

zircon
17-06-2007, 05:00 PM
Regarding the period 20-27 July, interestingly a square forms int the skies between Neptune/Chiron (conj in Aquarius) opposite Saturn (in Leo) and Mars (in Taurus) during this time. (This suggests violent outbreaks, deception and control)
The Moon completes the square (entering Scorpio 23-25 July) on 24 July (severe emotional disturbance / conflict). From around the 14 June to 3 July there is a series of very strong oppositions between Saturn conj Venus (in Leo) and Neptune conj Chiron (in Aquarius) tht reaches a climax around the end of June, assisted by the moon on 26 June.

The period 18-20 June is interesting due to the grand trine Saturn / Mars / Pluto (in Sag) and assisted by moon on 19 June, when there is a kite formation. (this tells me powerful and ambition will to succeed in a dynamic project involving subterfuge) Mercury is retrograde end june to 12/13 july when the subterfuge mentioned for the June period, could be taken forward again.


To return to the basic astrological definition, the current formation of the Kite and Grand Trine formations is creating a definite opportunity for them to carry through a subterfuge - there's a lot of unspent negative energy since the recent new moon; Uranus starts to go retrograde on 24 June the exact day of opposition between Saturn and Neptune. Tony (and all those of his age in power) has an important Neptune/saturn link in his chart and will be involved in the subterfuge. The Moon opposes Mars the same day and a new Kite is formed (second of three in this period) These are perfect monents for them to act with success.

24 June seems to be very important. (Tony to see the Pope the day before so maybe an announcment that day)
Regarding the 17 July, Moon, Venus and Saturn meet, trine Pluto, not many squares about; good moment for transformation of negative moon energy; not much hidden.
24 July, we will see the hidden results breaking out and consolidating; so 17 is a good time to defend the positive vibration.