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hagbard_celine
28-12-2008, 10:40 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1101948/A-crib-bed-Not-council-tells-homeless.html

Good grief!:eek::mad: I had no idea this had happened! Now I look back and I can see that there were no tramps in Oxford this Christmas. I never asked why.:rolleyes::o

It's frightening that the council have taken on this new power, the power to deport people from the city as if they're illegal immigrants of some kind. Nearly all the homeless are native Britons, yet they can be moved and banned against their will. As I've said many times before: It's bad enough that human beings are restricted from travelling around their home planet at will, but now we're even restricted within these artifical obscenties called "natiional borders".:eek::eek:

What about me? Can they deport me as well?:confused: I have no official ID, no passport, no birth certificate. I also have no formal tenancy agreement on my home any more, just a friendly word-of-mouth deal. I'm off the electoral register too. In truth, I can prove no links to the city any more than the tramps can.

tracker
28-12-2008, 10:56 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1101948/A-crib-bed-Not-council-tells-homeless.html

Good grief!:eek::mad: I had no idea this had happened! Now I look back and I can see that there were no tramps in Oxford this Christmas. I never asked why.:rolleyes::o

It's frightening that the council have taken on this new power, the power to deport people from the city as if they're illegal immigrants of some kind. Nearly all the homeless are native Britons, yet they can be moved and banned against their will. As I've said many times before: It's bad enough that human beings are restricted from travelling around their home planet at will, but now we're even restricted within these artifical obscenties called "natiional borders".:eek::eek:

What about me? Can they deport me as well?:confused: I have no official ID, no passport, no birth certificate. I also have no formal tenancy agreement on my home any more, just a friendly word-of-mouth deal. I'm off the electoral register too. In truth, I can prove no links to the city any more than the tramps can.

yep , they do this coz they dont want people to see the real affect of their polocies and how it makes people poor .
its a true embarrasment ! ( to them that is )

hagbard_celine
28-12-2008, 11:34 AM
yep , they do this coz they dont want people to see the real affect of their polocies and how it makes people poor .
its a true embarrasment ! ( to them that is )


Some of them do, but others I think like to give warnings to the rest of us by putting tramps on public display, a kind of pillory!: "This is what will happen to you if you don't play ball with us!" etc. But wherever those people want to issue their warning, it's clearly not Oxford.:D

Also, certain people in authority will use this as a foot in the door. Once they've made it acceptable to forcibly trasport the homeless then they can erxpand it to other groups, assylum-seekers, the elderly, disabled etc. We've got to stick together on this!

Pastor Neimoller could have written: "First they came for the homeless..."

alfrmo
28-12-2008, 12:13 PM
I totally agree with you hagbard this is a shocking development, and in my opinion has more to do with control than anything else. It is easy to bully and intimidate those folks living rough. Many of these the consequence of mental health/addiction problems. There aren't many people who stick up for the homeless, at best they recieve pious charity and at worst are subjected to assaults and vilification from local authorities.
Most need not only a roof over their head, but a support structure and help with jobs etc.
I know homeless folks in Oxford who when the weather is bad deliberately get arrested so as to get banged up in the local jail Bullingdon just to stay warm!.
This all started when Thatcher dumped many mentally ill patients onto the streets under the "Care in the Community" scheme. Care didn't come into it, it was about saving money.
What right have the PTB to say where anyone can go whether they have a job or not? absolutely disgraceful bullies.:mad:

hagbard_celine
28-12-2008, 12:18 PM
I totally agree with you hagbard this is a shocking development, and in my opinion has more to do with control than anything else. It is easy to bully and intimidate those folks living rough. Many of these the consequence of mental health/addiction problems. There aren't many people who stick up for the homeless, at best they recieve pious charity and at worst are subjected to assaults and vilification from local authorities.
Most need not only a roof over their head, but a support structure and help with jobs etc.
I know homeless folks in Oxford who when the weather is bad deliberately get arrested so as to get banged up in the local jail Bullingdon just to stay warm!.
This all started when Thatcher dumped many mentally ill patients onto the streets under the "Care in the Community" scheme. Care didn't come into it, it was about saving money.
What right have the PTB to say where anyone can go whether they have a job or not? absolutely disgraceful bullies.:mad:

Yeah, and the worse thing is, that by targeting the homeless the PTB's will persude the general population and "respectable citizens" to forge their own shackles!:eek: Most people I know will support this policy. "Good job!" they'll say. "Who cares, it's only the homeless, it doesn't effect us. Damn homeless deserve it anyway; scroungers!" And by taking this position they'll allow the PTB's to develop the legal and practical framework for bringing in similar laws for ALL of us!

alfrmo
28-12-2008, 12:28 PM
Yeah, and the worse thing is, that by targeting the homeless the PTB's will persude the general population and "respectable citizens" to forge their own shackles!:eek: Most people I know will support this policy. "Good job!" they'll say. "Who cares, it's only the homeless, it doesn't effect us. Damn homeless deserve it anyway; scroungers!" And by taking this position they'll allow the PTB's to develop the legal and practical framework for bringing in similar laws for ALL of us!

I couldn't agree more hagbard, pick on the weakest first, it's so blatant when you can see the big picture and how they operate. Next it will be folks who can't afford rent? do these get back to their towns of origin? how many folks actually live in the town/city of their origin anyway. It makes me laugh that money can be moved around the world at the push of a computer key by those that control us, and yet the PTB will always use either the nationalist card or indeed the regionalist card as in this case, in order to divide us. It is an attack on all of us, we could all be a victim of homelessness.

rhydra
28-12-2008, 04:00 PM
They wanted them to be moved before Christmas. Might put people off buying their Christmas goodies if they realise they are only three payments away from joining them.

hagbard_celine
29-12-2008, 01:48 AM
I couldn't agree more hagbard, pick on the weakest first, it's so blatant when you can see the big picture and how they operate. Next it will be folks who can't afford rent? do these get back to their towns of origin? how many folks actually live in the town/city of their origin anyway. It makes me laugh that money can be moved around the world at the push of a computer key by those that control us, and yet the PTB will always use either the nationalist card or indeed the regionalist card as in this case, in order to divide us. It is an attack on all of us, we could all be a victim of homelessness.


Absolutely!:cool: And as I said above: I already qualify for this kind of treatment myself! I'll let you know if they come looking for me.:eek:

lightgiver
29-12-2008, 01:54 AM
Maybe they are planning to gate Oxford to keep out the riff raff;):D

lightgiver
29-12-2008, 01:57 AM
Maybe they are planning to gate Oxford to keep out the riff raff;):D

Oxford is home to the University of Oxford, the oldest university in the English-speaking world.

A lot of the NWO elitists came from these institutions;)

25 British Prime Ministers have attended Oxford (including William Gladstone, Herbert Asquith, Clement Attlee, Harold Macmillan, Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair) says it all really doesn't it.

Amongst the long list of writers associated with Oxford are Evelyn Waugh,[74] Lewis Carroll,[75] Aldous Huxley,[76] Oscar Wilde,[77] C. S. Lewis,[78] J. R. R. Tolkien,[79] Graham Greene,[80] Phillip Pullman,[59] Vikram Seth[59] and Plum Sykes,[81] the poets Percy Bysshe Shelley,[82] John Donne,[83] A. E. Housman,[84] W. H. Auden,[85] and Philip Larkin,[86] and Poets Laureate Thomas Warton,[87] Henry James Pye,[88] Robert Southey,[89] Robert Bridges,[90] Cecil Day-Lewis,[91] Sir John Betjeman,[92] and Andrew Motion.[93]and media tyrant Rupert Murdoch

le chuck
29-12-2008, 02:23 AM
Or may-be the Lizard Queen is coming to town. :D

hagbard_celine
29-12-2008, 02:28 AM
Oxford is home to the University of Oxford, the oldest university in the English-speaking world.

A lot of the NWO elitists came from these institutions;)

25 British Prime Ministers have attended Oxford (including William Gladstone, Herbert Asquith, Clement Attlee, Harold Macmillan, Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair) says it all really doesn't it.

Amongst the long list of writers associated with Oxford are Evelyn Waugh,[74] Lewis Carroll,[75] Aldous Huxley,[76] Oscar Wilde,[77] C. S. Lewis,[78] J. R. R. Tolkien,[79] Graham Greene,[80] Phillip Pullman,[59] Vikram Seth[59] and Plum Sykes,[81] the poets Percy Bysshe Shelley,[82] John Donne,[83] A. E. Housman,[84] W. H. Auden,[85] and Philip Larkin,[86] and Poets Laureate Thomas Warton,[87] Henry James Pye,[88] Robert Southey,[89] Robert Bridges,[90] Cecil Day-Lewis,[91] Sir John Betjeman,[92] and Andrew Motion.[93]and media tyrant Rupert Murdoch

And don't I know it!:eek: You should see the symbolism!:eek:

hagbard_celine
29-12-2008, 02:28 AM
Maybe they are planning to gate Oxford to keep out the riff raff;):D


It didn't work. I'm still there!:D

hagbard_celine
29-12-2008, 02:29 AM
Or may-be the Lizard Queen is coming to town. :D

She did, but that was a few weeks ago.

See;): http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44044

lightgiver
29-12-2008, 02:36 AM
It didn't work. I'm still there!:D

:D:D nice one hagbard,riff raff coming to a town near you soon;)

Dominus illuminatio mea.

amercury
29-12-2008, 02:55 AM
A total of 972 people have been assessed since the scheme was started just before Christmas.

So far, 185 have been moved on - and 158 have apparently vanished


Holy Shit!:eek:
'assessed' 'vanished'

I wonder if they started this before the queen's visit, and then decided they could blatently get away with it. This needs looking into, and these people need advocates.
And Hagbard we would never let them do this to you! (right guys!)

hagbard_celine
30-12-2008, 11:27 AM
A total of 972 people have been assessed since the scheme was started just before Christmas.

So far, 185 have been moved on - and 158 have apparently vanished


Holy Shit!:eek:
'assessed' 'vanished'

I wonder if they started this before the queen's visit, and then decided they could blatently get away with it. This needs looking into, and these people need advocates.
And Hagbard we would never let them do this to you! (right guys!)

Thanks, Buddy.:)

I know "vanished" is a very sinister word :eek: out of sight, out of mind. Who'd miss them eh?:mad:

Tom Clancy's book Rainbow Six is about some scientists who kidnap homeless people to test viruses on them.