James Randi Child Abuser

[adam the chivalric]

I recently read the biggest secret and read that James Randi was recorded on tape explosively talking to young boys about sex and how he would love to show them.:eek:

Ive done some searching on James Randi on google with wordings like Child, abuser, Pedophile, and molester and found out he is a member of a foundation known to be a front for child rape and create cover stories to pretend they imagined it all and that they are creating stories because of there anxiety. Even if there young and tell them about there parents abusing and touchnig them they simply say its false memory syndrome from talking to there parents, this sounds like bogus diagnosis on child rape. Maybe its just me but if im as young as 5 or say 6 i dont think i could lie easily about a parent touhing me and physical tortureing me and do it to my self.

I still havent found direct sources realteing to court cases and his sex confession tapes where he deliberately lies but only lots of articles on the web and forums

Could the FMS be connected to the satanic network and create excuses about rape time after time?

http://www.fmsfonline.org/

Enyone know if his Recordings are on the web.

[hagbard_celine]

I'd have thought Randi would have sued by now!;) After all he's been sued by Uri Geller and others himself.

I've not looked into this, but I've heard that Randi's organization, the James Randi Educational Foundation, has links to the False Memory Foundation whose directors have been apparently linked to kiddie-porn:mad:.

James Randi is famous for being one of the world's most prominent Skeptics. He dedicatedly travels the world desperately trying to convince everyo0ne that the paranormal doesn't exist. He's a trained showman; he used to be a stage magician and escapologist before starting his Skeptic career, and can be very charming on stage and screen. But people who've met him say he can be deeply antisocial when the public are not watching. He gets into rages and hurls abuse at people he opposes.

[adam the chivalric]

I came across this which lists some of the controversy on some members of the FMS foundation speaking of the pedophile history of them. Includes Randi, and talks of the founding directives known as the Freyds where officially the mother Pamela didn't believe her daughter Jennifer when she told her that the farther abused her. So Pamela stood by her husband Peters side and came to the conclusion that Jennifer was imagining it.

http://www.pehi.eu/dutroux/FMSF_freaks.htm

[thomps1d]

But people who've met him say he can be deeply antisocial when the public are not watching. He gets into rages and hurls abuse at people he opposes.

That much I can definitely believe. He's just got that look like he's a cantankerous old coot beneath all the showmanship.

But regarding the original post - I don't think he's a child abuser. I used to be a great fan of his, but eventually found that his habit of reflexingly naysaying everything that came his way just didn't seem right. He's done some great work exposing some frauds, but it makes me wonder how many genuine phenomena have been dismissed with a snort and a wave of his hand...

[hagbard_celine]

That much I can definitely believe. He's just got that look like he's a cantankerous old coot beneath all the showmanship.

But regarding the original post - I don't think he's a child abuser. I used to be a great fan of his, but eventually found that his habit of reflexingly naysaying everything that came his way just didn't seem right. He's done some great work exposing some frauds, but it makes me wonder how many genuine phenomena have been dismissed with a snort and a wave of his hand...


I must admit he did a good job exposing Peter Popoff, but his main mission in life is based on his conviction that ALL such phenomena are false. That is simply not true. Most of such phenomena have at some point been the subject of his attention and dismissal:eek::confused:.

[halleyscomet]

I recently read the biggest secret and read that James Randi was recorded on tape explosively talking to young boys about sex and how he would love to show them.:eek:

You drop a bomb like that and then don't bother posting any sources? Come ON man, how is anyone supposed to take such a claim seriously if you can't even be bothered to link to the place where you read the claim?

I've been doing some research of my own about this topic, and all I've found has been a series of blog posts all citing the same vague rumors. Alleged quotes from a Toronto Start article crop up here and there, but the online archives of the Toronto Star don't go back far enough to check for the claimed articles.

Does anyone have anything about this other than rumors circulating in the blogosphere?

[coshh]

My dad hates Randi

[halleyscomet]

My dad hates Randi

Well that's completely and totally unrelated to the question at hand. I think Bill Clinton screwed us over when he created the little star chamber that could issue retroactive search warrants, but that has NOTHING to do with what did or did not happen with Paula Jones.

Again, does anyone have ANYTHING other than vague rumors?

[size_of_light]

I recently read the biggest secret and read that James Randi was recorded on tape explosively talking to young boys about sex and how he would love to show them.:eek:


Just to clarify, you didn't read about these alleged tape recordings in The Biggest Secret, although it kinda reads that way.

[adam the chivalric]

You drop a bomb like that and then don't bother posting any sources? Come ON man, how is anyone supposed to take such a claim seriously if you can't even be bothered to link to the place where you read the claim?

I've been doing some research of my own about this topic, and all I've found has been a series of blog posts all citing the same vague rumors. Alleged quotes from a Toronto Start article crop up here and there, but the online archives of the Toronto Star don't go back far enough to check for the claimed articles.

Does anyone have anything about this other than rumors circulating in the blogosphere?

Perhaps the biggest secret has a source concerning Rand. I dont remember it being in written transcript but perhaps you should ask David Icke if he still has a copy of the tape. My source of the first encounterment with the claim =biggest secret I tryed searching for the recording on the web.Im useing my ps3 cus comp is being fixed so i dont hav access to sources concerning FMS. But a little while ago i stumbled upon a member of jref a fan of the man himself saying on the forum why dose randi associate himself with the fms a exposed quack organisation.

[mrmoney]

Could the FMS be connected to the satanic network and create excuses about rape time after time?

http://www.fmsfonline.org/

Enyone know if his Recordings are on the web.

First off, you'll get put in jail if you watch/listen to any child porn on the web.. (hmm.. I wonder why they have that law..)

Secondly, there's no reason for a website with a full domain to be involved in anything. They don't have any reason to make any of this public. It's all underground. The people involved aren't even registered as real children, so have no identification in the case that they are somehow caught..

[halleyscomet]

But a little while ago i stumbled upon a member of jref a fan of the man himself saying on the forum why dose randi associate himself with the fms a exposed quack organisation.

So basically there's no actual evidence, just rumors and people claiming there's "proof" in the form of tapes that no one seems to have actually HEARD. The closest one can come to proof is that Randi may have worked with an organization that works to discredit false "recovered" memories. There are some people who think members of that organization MAY be using it to try and cover child abuse, but there's no evidence that they actually are, or that Randi knows anything about it. The accusations against Randi are literally just a massive closed loop of rumors with no actual data to back it up.

To call that a stretch would be an understatement. It's a bit like saying someone who once testified on behalf of the ACLU in a court case is therefore a Satanist who sacrifices kittens and children to Barack Obama as part of a campaign to foster a reptilian takeover of the New World Order.

[jerick]

First let me say that I like James Randi. But I don't agree with everything that he says or does.
The tapes do exist, I have listen to them all and I have them and will send a copy to whomever wants them.
Also I have the press release from J. Randi in response to the tapes.

It really is Randi on the tapes, how do I know?

1) I have had face to face conversations with him and it is his voice.
2) I have been to several of his lectures in person, uh ditto.
3) Most importantly, he admits that the tapes are fact real and it is him, go here:
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/525-a-champion-grubbie-speaks-out.html

go near the bottom of his response (but not the bottom of the entire page) to a journalist who got most of the facts wrong about Uri Gellar article and the final point was that the only thing he got right was about the tapes! Like I said, I have the press release he mentioned.

Randi claims he was working with the police to capture crank callers, but all of the callers seem to be familiar with him and several times Randi referenced other callers an example he made the statement:
Randi: "You know Ricky"?
Caller: "Yeh"
Randi: "Well he has seen the pictures and video's, he can tell you that they are good".
If you know who the caller is, then is it a crank call?

Well, I don't believe he has done anything wrong. Why his phone was tap and how it got to the general public (actually it was a lawyer, but how did he get it) domain is a mystery? I can guess that they TRIED to get him, but because he did not really break the law and they did not agree with his life style, they released the tapes. But I could be totally wrong on all points.

This has come up time and again, but nothing really noteworthy has resulted from it.
By my research this happened 48 years ago, so I think at this stage it is kinda of pointless.

JerIck

[montag]

This has come up time and again, but nothing really noteworthy as a resulted from it.
By my research this happened 48 years ago, so I think at this stage it is kinda of piontless.

JerIck
Why search this thread out and drag it up again then?:confused:

[the cosmos]

I'd have thought Randi would have sued by now!;) After all he's been sued by Uri Geller and others himself.

I've not looked into this, but I've heard that Randi's organization, the James Randi Educational Foundation, has links to the False Memory Foundation whose directors have been apparently linked to kiddie-porn:mad:.

James Randi is famous for being one of the world's most prominent Skeptics. He dedicatedly travels the world desperately trying to convince everyo0ne that the paranormal doesn't exist. He's a trained showman; he used to be a stage magician and escapologist before starting his Skeptic career, and can be very charming on stage and screen. But people who've met him say he can be deeply antisocial when the public are not watching. He gets into rages and hurls abuse at people he opposes.

For someone who travels the world to disprove the occult etc. it really shows that he is so insecure about the topic he so vehemently opposes.

[jerick]

Montag, several people had replied that there was no proof, I have provided the resources that they then can decided what actually happen. At least insofar as to what is available. This issue will always be current until it is fully answered.
And let me clear up what I meant by "pointless". It is pointless to bring legal action due the nature of the act and the law, but the truth is never pointless.

To say the least, the whole situation is very odd.

And besides I have found David's website. :)

JerIck

BTW here is the link to Zip file for the tapes. Make up your own mind.

http://www.uploadpedia.com/3015K1KO9LHD/James-Randi-zip.html

[montag]

Montag, several people had replied that there was no proof, I have provided the resources that they then can decided what actually happen. At least insofar as to what is available. This issue will always be current until it is fully answered.
And let me clear up what I meant by "pointless". It is pointless to bring legal action due the nature of the act and the law, but the truth is never pointless.


Thanks for clearing that up..

[hagbard_celine]

For someone who travels the world to disprove the occult etc. it really shows that he is so insecure about the topic he so vehemently opposes.

It seems an odd thing to be so obsessed with:confused:, until we take into account the mentality of the Elite. For some reason they seem to have an almost knee-jerk aversion to all the things that come under the heading of "paranormal" or "out-of-the-ordinary" and a seething desperation to keep their existence out of the public zeitgeist. Randi is used for that purpose. He is a showman and, as he even describes himself, a "professional charlatan". He is a very proficient deciever indeed. He can almost say black=white and get away with it. Remember the Project Alpha Hoax? Randi not only twists the whole thing round to exonerate himself, but he still champions it as a victory for Skepticism!:eek::rolleyes::confused:

[dreamweaver]

Can't say I have much time for the fake psychics and other bullshitters that Randi has exposed over the years.

The fact that he has exposed fraudsters does not, of course, disprove everything that comes under the 'paranormal' heading and it's ridiculous of him to claim so.

I've not seen any evidence of Randi being involved in child abuse, so the less said about that the better - except to say that if it's true, I hope he gets brought to justice for it.

[jerick]

Randi will not be on earth much longer. He had open heart surgery in 2006 and recently is recovering from colon cancer. The doctors give him a 50% chance of surviving for the next five years. He is already giving instructions on what he would like to happen when he dies (no monuments, cremate his body and then blow the ashes in Gellars face).

On the incident in question, not much of a chance he would be brought to court if the males were 18 and gave consent even if it was sex for cash, I am not certain on New Jersey law (and I am not a lawyer), but the statue of limitations has probable run out on this issue.

Unless something new can be proven, he is home free.

When I went to some of his lectures, there was always a couple of young men (18 to 24) assistance. I was not aware of the controversy at the time.

JerryB

[hagbard_celine]

Can't say I have much time for the fake psychics and other bullshitters that Randi has exposed over the years.

The fact that he has exposed fraudsters does not, of course, disprove everything that comes under the 'paranormal' heading and it's ridiculous of him to claim so.



Quite so.:cool: I mean, nobody can criticize him for exposing Peter Popoff.

[hagbard_celine]

Randi will not be on earth much longer. He had open heart surgery in 2006 and recently is recovering from colon cancer. The doctors give him a 50% chance of surviving for the next five years. He is already giving instructions on what he would like to happen when he dies (no monuments, cremate his body and then blow the ashes in Gellars face).


You just watch him milk his impending death for MBA-credibility!
(Explanation: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49525