The Number 23 movie trailer!!

[thoth]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8575101576912943292&q=the+number+23+trailer&hl=en

I didn't know if anyone had seen this yet, but its been playing for quite a while. Literally sent chills down my spine as they reveal more and more of their plot. And like little children, it puts the masses into a dream state as the waves from the television screen interact with the alpha waves in our brain.

[seamus]

:eek: I for one don't like the "impending violence" kind of "entertainment". I have enough of a problem with real violence. Go and look at some gory blown-up bodies of Iraqi children if you're so hot to see blood and guts. It's free, and it might actually motivate you to upgrade your consciousness, instead of just dulling you to the real injustices done to humanity every day.

This isn't directed at you, thoth, but more at the entertainment industry advocates (if there are any, which I am not assuming there are) out there.

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[kerravon]

Makes you wonder if the Number 23 is just one of those movies created deliberatly by Hollywood, to make any conspiracy theorist who mentions number theories to look like a nut-case. A classic trick to turn the public against the unofficial "theories".

[richmick]

I used to live at no.23. During my time there i went through a big change in my life. I moved to no.32 and i went through hell. The next place i live at (staying at parents at the mo) i wont be staying in a place with either combination of the two numbers 2 & 3. Anyone got any insights to what these numbers mean, in numerology?

[foreverspirit]

richmick:

See Thread:

THE SUBCONSCIOUS - FRIEND OR WILD BEAST?

[father ted]

Makes you wonder if the Number 23 is just one of those movies created deliberatly by Hollywood, to make any conspiracy theorist who mentions number theories to look like a nut-case. A classic trick to turn the public against the unofficial "theories".

It looks like it, and don't they use talented actors amongst other things to convey a powerfull image! Looks like it's got great acting in it.

A Beautiful Mind staring Russel Crowe is the same, and have a look at a movie called K-Pak, staring Kevin Spacey, that's the most interesting one of them all!:mad: :eek: :rolleyes:

[mada88]

Makes you wonder if the Number 23 is just one of those movies created deliberatly by Hollywood, to make any conspiracy theorist who mentions number theories to look like a nut-case. A classic trick to turn the public against the unofficial "theories".

I totally agree. Have you seen the poster for the number 23? I seen it on the back of a sunday newspaper magazine (the guardian 17.02.07 weekend) at the top of the poster it has things that include the number 23. Here they are, caesar was stabbed a total of 23 times, genome contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, 9.11.2001=23, witches sabbath is june 23rd, George Herbert Walker Bush contains 23 letter, Illuminati 1723 A.D., TWA Flight 800 explosion occured in seats 23j and 23k, There are more UFO sightings on July 23rd than any other day. Coinincidense? lol. I have a lot of respect for people who study numerology it is amazing when you get into it. The Matrix is made of number codes which you can find everywhere. Maybe its worth studying the numbers in your life lol.
I always wondered what was the deal with the number 23 then I stumbled apon that poster. Another thing isn't it funny how the same actors keep popping up in symbolic movies? A good example of that is Tom Cruise.

[thoth]

I do know that Fourier mathmatics utilizes turning any complex pattern into a mathmatical formula of simple waves and then back again. I wonder how many times 23 pops up?

[graflok]

another major motion picture brought to you by ...

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/M/htmlM/motionpictur/motionpicturIMAGE/motionpictur.jpg

[luther]

23 is a different harmonic of 5. A very active number. It gets things done.

Life & Laughter
Luther

[losangelesgraffiti]

another major motion picture brought to you by ...

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/M/htmlM/motionpictur/motionpicturIMAGE/motionpictur.jpg

and also the reason im not gonna see it now.
graflok i like ur style.

[oneofmany]

It looks like it, and don't they use talented actors amongst other things to convey a powerfull image! Looks like it's got great acting in it.

A Beautiful Mind staring Russel Crowe is the same, and have a look at a movie called K-Pak, staring Kevin Spacey, that's the most interesting one of them all!:mad: :eek: :rolleyes:

I love that movie, to me it explains how faster than light travel could be possible and how really ridiculous our world is. I love the line where Kevin is being introduced to all the doctors and says "How many doctors are there on this planet" which alludes to the earlier conversation about the psychiatrist telling Prot that it's his job to heal his patients, not Prot's and the classic response "well why haven't you healed them yet?"

[father ted]

Yeh, but the movie turns around in the end to expose Kevin's character as a phoney who had some trauma which was responsible for this alternate personnality. It's as if the movie was hijacked right at the end, to make people think that even if someone's convincing, that you shouldn't believe their outlandish tales. Typical. Who wants us to think like that? gee, I wonder...
What's really interesting to me is that the movie was about someone who was supposed to be an alien, and has some truths in it. I found his example of his alien language interesting.

[oneofmany]

Yeh, but the movie turns around in the end to expose Kevin's character as a phoney who had some trauma which was responsible for this alternate personnality. It's as if the movie was hijacked right at the end, to make people think that even if someone's convincing, that you shouldn't believe their outlandish tales. Typical. Who wants us to think like that? gee, I wonder...
What's really interesting to me is that the movie was about someone who was supposed to be an alien, and has some truths in it. I found his example of his alien language interesting.

NO..... the inmates at the hospital weren't fooled. Prot had gone, the patients could see it, everyone except the "so called normal people" aka doctors and nurses.
Also Prot being in another persons body makes sense to me, seeing we are light when we get to the nitty gritty of it, light and thought are so similar, travelling from body to body might be the only way to travel at those speeds and distances.
Look at our bodies as mere spacesuits, as John White suggests. It's just that our mental ability needs a real shot in the arm, before we realise that these things might be possible.:):):) either that or i just see the infinite possibility in almost everything.

you choose:):):)

[father ted]

You could be right, I'll have to watch the movie again, but how does the ending fit into the whole plot?
It sound like there's mind controll themes in that one.

[oneofmany]

You could be right, I'll have to watch the movie again, but how does the ending fit into the whole plot?
It sound like there's mind controll themes in that one.

All the ending is to me is the quack discovering the tragedy of Prot's vessel and looking after him the best "Modern Science" can. which is not real good as Prot pointed out earlier in the movie. as for Prot, he caught a beam of light out of there and he also took someone with him. Don't forget, they were in a psychiatric hospital with not much chance of escape. Anyhow could you elaborate on the mind control themes you see in the picture please? I'm curious:)

[losangelesgraffiti]

To measure attention spans, psychophysiologist Thomas Mulholland of the Veterans Hospital in Bedford, Massachusetts, attached young viewers to an EEG machine that was wired to shut the TV set off whenever the children's brains produced a majority of alpha waves. Although the children were told to concentrate, only a few could keep the set on for more than 30 seconds!

Most viewers are already hypnotized. To deepen the trance is easy. One simple way is to place a blank, black frame every 32 frames in the film that is being projected. This creates a 45-beat-per-minute pulsation perceived only by the subconscious mind--the ideal pace to generate deep hypnosis.

[father ted]

It's been a long time since I've seen the movie, I'd have to watch it again after what you've said. The mind control theme that I was referring to is how the guy suffered trauma which got him to that state, that's all, nothing big. Hollywood, however, seems to make this a reoccurring theme, like the movie Unbroken.

[tru3]

The Matrix is made of number codes which you can find everywhere.

I've run across a couple of books lately on "sacred" geometry, talking about the phi ratio (golden mean) and the Fibonacci sequence (no NOT the davinci code!). It's everywhere in Nature: the spiral, the proportions of the human body, e.g. -- even the proportions of a credit card! So, there is definately a mathematical structure to the matrix.


"Here they are, caesar was stabbed a total of 23 times, genome contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, 9.11.2001=23, witches sabbath is june 23rd, George Herbert Walker Bush contains 23 letter, Illuminati 1723 A.D., TWA Flight 800 explosion occured in seats 23j and 23k, There are more UFO sightings on July 23rd than any other day. Coinincidense? lol. I have a lot of respect for people who study numerology it is amazing when you get into it. The Matrix is made of number codes which you can find everywhere. Maybe its worth studying the numbers in your life lol. "

Now, the number 23 is not in the fibonacci sequence. I'm just speculating here, but if you look at the types of phenomena and ratios associated with 23 (george bush, covens- ) perhaps this number is some kind of gateway to manipulate the matrix.

[losangelesgraffiti]

isnt michael jordan number 23

[father ted]

Now, the number 23 is not in the fibonacci sequence. I'm just speculating here, but if you look at the types of phenomena and ratios associated with 23 (george bush, covens- ) perhaps this number is some kind of gateway to manipulate the matrix.

I think you could be onto something here, I would say 23 is a binary sequence (I think that's what it's called) which is different from the fibonacci sequence (but works the same way). Does anyone know how the binary sequence fits into sacred geometry?

[oneofmany]

I think you could be onto something here, I would say 23 is a binary sequence (I think that's what it's called) which is different from the fibonacci sequence (but works the same way). Does anyone know how the binary sequence fits into sacred geometry?

Have you ever heard of Coral castle? if not go here http://www.coralcastlecode.com/index.html and prepare to be amazed. Ed Leedskalnin has cracked sacred geometry and left a monument to it.

[misscpb]

Hi Everyone

I remember reading somewhere about the number 23 and that the true meaning is one of "keep your faith, love and help are around as is assistance when needed" So it sounds like a very positive, freedom style, uplifting and almost spiritual number.

[tru3]

Hi Everyone

I remember reading somewhere about the number 23 and that the true meaning is one of "keep your faith, love and help are around as is assistance when needed" So it sounds like a very positive, freedom style, uplifting and almost spiritual number.


Well, Michael Jordan was 23, so maybe that rubbed off on him! :o

Let me throw something out here, and we'll see if it sticks...

What if the number 23 is just a "door" to manipulating the fabric of the matrix?

So, if this is so, then the premise of the movie AND what misscpb would BOTH be valid points.

It then becomes a matter of intention; it's just like dynamite. We can use it to build a tunnel under the english channel, or use it to destroy the WTC.

Unfortunately for most of us, it seems that historically the ones who know about this stuff seem to have less than benevolent intentions.

Now my knowledge of the Fibonacci sequence is a bit rusty and certainly not comprehensive. With the caveat that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing, here goes:

I looked at my previous post (where I said 23 is not in the Fibonacci sequence (FS). That's not exactly true.

Here's the sequence...

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233 and so forth

So, it's easy to see that the next number in the sequence is derived by adding the two previous numbers together:

0 + 1 =1; 1+1=2; 2+1=3; 2+3=5 and so forth.

So, taking a short leap of logic, I would posit that 23 IS part of the FS.

Many times in numerology, numbers side by side are implied to be additive.
For example, in the numerology of our birth number, the numbers are added together. Here's mine:

August 5, 1959 . That would be

8 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 9 = 37

3 + 7 = 10

So, my birth number is 37/10. There's a whole lot more schmeer why it's grouped like that, but I won't get into it here.

My point was that PERHAPS the number 23 is supposed to be 2+3= 5.
Someone had mentioned earlier in the thread that 5 is an active number, and it is. It's also a number of spiritual perfection (the five cardinal virtures) and also physical unity (the five elements in Taoism).

So, it seems to all boil down to intention and awareness. It' really no different than becoming aware of the power of logos, symbols, etc. We're all energy. If we become aware of these relationships, and start to notice when and where they show up, they have less power over us. Energy follows attention, and our very attention alters, however slightly, the fabric of the Universe.

So that's one aspect. The other aspect of the FS is that the adjacent numbers have ratios between them that approach Phi, or the Golden Mean.

Now, the Golden Mean is PLASTERED all over the Masonic symbolism, and Nature itself. The ratio of the golden mean/phi is 1.6180339...a repeating sequence on into infinity, if I remember correctly (either that, or it's a non-repeating sequence that goes on-- but maybe that's Pi. My head hurts all of a sudden :confused: ).

But I digress. The ratios of the numbers in the FS don't exactly equal PHI, but they come closer and closer the bigger the numbers get. Here goes:

1 /1 = 1.0
2 / 1 = 2.0
3 / 2 = 1.5

Now ready for the kicker?

5 / 3 = 1.66666666
8 / 5 = 1.60
13 / 8 = 1.625
21/13 = 1.615384

It's interesting to me that 1.666 just happens to be the ratio between 5 and 3.


Again, I don't claim to be sage, seer, mystic, or geiger-counter of the imponderables, but this is just as meaningful as anything in the movie. :p

[father ted]

Thanx for the link oneofmany,
tru3, that's called the binary sequence (I think that's the name), I don't know how that fits into sacred geometry, Drunvalo didn't go into it but he brought it up in his presentation. He was more focused on the fibonacci sequence.

The fibonacci sequence is where you times the numbers, the binary sequence is where you add the numbers.

[father ted]

If I'm not mistaken, I think a lot of Australian sports stars had/have the number 23. I'm googling some right now, Andrew Mcleod wears 23.

[tru3]

Thanx for the link oneofmany,
tru3, that's called the binary sequence (I think that's the name), I don't know how that fits into sacred geometry, Drunvalo didn't go into it but he brought it up in his presentation. He was more focused on the fibonacci sequence.

The fibonacci sequence is where you times the numbers, the binary sequence is where you add the numbers.


Thanks , Ted. As I said, my reckoning of all this is a bit fuzzy. Did you ever take Drunvalo's seminar? I never got around to it...

At any rate, I am pretty positive that Phi is derived by dividing the numbers; those are the values of the ratios. That seems to be the key. I used to work for a statistical market research company, and I was taught that a number in and of itself means nothing; it is the relationship between the numbers that creates meaning.

Hence, my interest in the relationship between 3 and 5: 1.666

[father ted]

I never took any seminars of anyone. This was a google vid, now taken off. There was a guy who does these sacred geometry seminars in australia (accredited by Drunvalo) who came to town, actually today, but he is charging $266!
Although Drunvalo does mention on the sacred geometry site that when he first started he freely distributed dvd's about sacred geometry and the meditation, trying to get the info out freely, but he said too many people abused the info and blamed it on him so he stopped doing that.

I'm not familiar with phi, I'd like to know, what the significance if phi is, do you think? As well as the other sequences, and how do they correlate with each other?

[tru3]

I never took any seminars of anyone. This was a google vid, now taken off. There was a guy who does these sacred geometry seminars in australia (accredited by Drunvalo) who came to town, actually today, but he is charging $266!
Although Drunvalo does mention on the sacred geometry site that when he first started he freely distributed dvd's about sacred geometry and the meditation, trying to get the info out freely, but he said too many people abused the info and blamed it on him so he stopped doing that.

I'm not familiar with phi, I'd like to know, what the significance if phi is, do you think? As well as the other sequences, and how do they correlate with each other?

I used to be a seminar junkie, back in da day...

Ya, I just posted about people ripping off other people's ideas. It happens a lot in the seminar business; everybody steals from everybody else. I actually saw one of those videos, years ago. Drunvalo seemed to be a gentle soul, wanting to be of service. I'll tell you why: he emphasized the need for emotional healing to quicken Consciousness. That to me indicated he was coming from love; the occult players don't want to touch that shit with a 10 metre pole. I think he sincerely wanted to be responsible about not wanting the info to be misused, rather than worrying about losing money.

Let's see if I can give you a succinct summary. There's a couple of things about phi to keep in mind: a) it's the relationship between two numbers (a quotient, if you will), b) that relationship is found everywhere in nature (the human body, the spiral of a nautilus shell, plant growth and, if I'm not mistaken, fractal geometry), and c) masonic imagery and symbology is rotten with it.

Because it is a relationship between two discrete numbers, it can be manipulated energetically. This may be a poor analogy for some, but it works for me: if indeed, everything is energy, and energy can be "bent" (light through a prism, red shift of receding galaxies, starlight being sucked into a black hole), and Consciousness is the ultimate energy, then perhaps Phi is a way to "bend" consciousness to alter(get it? alter? google tavistock institute) "reality". Some of the illustrations I remember about the video strike me now as sending thought energy along pre-defined paths at specific points and angles. Really, even though I've been aware of this stuff for a long time, I never messed with it because I believe that when one focuses Consciousness, one had better know what one is doing or one will get one's ass kicked down the road. :mad: It's the universal law of attraction, dawg.

s. geometry and intra-dimensional ascension (and descension, I would assume; the door must logically swing both ways. Perhaps this is the door that allows the reptilians to enthrall the bloodlines) are very closely related all the way back to Egypt. The whole complex at Giza was organized around the golden mean spiral (for our purposes, phi and the golden mean are the same, even though there are subtle differences: call them the male and female aspect of s. geometry) with respect to the constellation orion.

I mean, when you start to google on some of this shit, it's hard not to connect the dots.:rolleyes:

[midwich cuckoo]

‘THE NUMBER 23’
Mystical figure interests actor
Sunday, February 18, 2007
Cindy Pearlman
NEW YORK TIMES SYNDICATE


In the mood for something new, Jim Carrey seems especially receptive to all things "23."

The actor stars in The Number 23, a thriller that will open, appropriately, on Feb. 23.

Carrey plays Walter, a suburban father and dogcatcher leading a normal life until the day his wife (Virginia Madsen) buys a strange book, written anonymously, about the number 23.

Suddenly their lives start falling apart, careening into mayhem and murder.

Walter even looks different from any previous Carrey character, with long, dark hair and a large, creepy, gothic tattoo.

Actually, he says, the idea isn’t so different from those of most other Carrey movies, which are usually weird. It’s simply weird in a different way.

"I loved this character, Walter, because he’s the ultimate family guy," says Carrey, 45. "He’s a guy who just wants to have a normal life. He’s most of us who just want things to be stable. But, like most of us, Walter is in denial. I think that we’re all in a constant state of denial about the fact that we live on plates of rock that are floating through an unknown universe."

The fact that a simple number causes Walter’s universe to go berserk isn’t as bizarre as it sounds. There are those who think that there is something mystical about the number 23.

"A friend of mine in Canada handed it down to me because he saw it everywhere," Carrey says. "Then he gave me a book of 23 phenomena, which listed all the strange dates and odd occurrences. I thought he was crazy. But then I started seeing 23 everywhere.

"It entered my life in a big way," he says. "Suddenly I started driving all of my friends crazy."

Then someone mentioned Psalm 23, the Biblical poem with the passage "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. . . . Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."

"It’s basically about living without fear and knowing that you’re taken care of," Carrey says.

Suddenly things made sense to Carrey, to such an extent that he even changed the name of his production company from Pitbull Productions to JC23.

"I was on the Net talking to someone about changing the name of my company to JC23," Carrey recalls, "and my friend talked about that psalm. . . . about the ‘valley of the shadow of death.’ At the same time, another friend walked into my office with a newspaper . . . that had a big headline that read, ‘Death Valley Blooms.’ It was the first time in 100 years that it did bloom because of extraordinary rain. Those seeds were waiting for 100 years.

"I thought: ‘How fitting. I think I’m on a weird and special journey here,’ " Carrey says.

Then he got a phone call that turned things a little spooky.

"I was explaining this company-name change to another friend," the actor says, "and he said: ‘That’s funny. I just wrote a script about the number 23.’ I was totally freaked out. The first page of the script had me as this animal catcher capturing a pit bull. I went from Pitbull Productions to JC23, and the reason was not lost on me.
"The writer even told me to turn to the 23 rd page in his script and then asked me to start circling every 23 rd word on that page. It was written like a code that was really cool."

Carrey has a folder of pictures he took to document "23 incidents."

"I took these with my camera phone," Carrey says. "Look, here’s a tow truck from when my car broke down, with a 23 on the side. It’s the 23 rd truck in their fleet. I got the driver to take a picture of me with it. Look at the car in front of us in the picture. He has a 23 on his license plate.

"When I got to the hotel room here," he continues, "I was put in Room 1223. I look out my terrace, and the awning across the street is for the address 323. And then I ordered some breakfast, and there was a 23 written on my pancakes.

"OK, I made the last one up," he says, laughing. "But the rest is true, and it’s eerie and freaky."

In a separate interview, director Joel Schumacher offers his own "23 incident," from the day he agreed to make the film.

"I was brushing my teeth afterward thinking, ‘It will be my 20 th movie if I do it, and I wish it were my 23 rd,’ " he recalls. "But then I thought, ‘What about those two TV movies? So this is your 23 rd job.’ I couldn’t wait for the next morning to call Jim and tell him about it."

The Number 23 is far from Carrey’s first drama — his resume includes everything from The Dead Pool (1988) and Simon Birch (1998) to Man on the Moon (1999) and The Majestic (2001) — but it’s easily his darkest. Still, he insists that he doesn’t think of his work in terms of dramas, comedies, thrillers or whatever categories people might put them into.

"I’ve really always thought of myself as someone who lives in the middle of this wheel," he says. "I’m able to go to the extremes — which is the outside of the wheel. I can go out there and be zany and fun, but I can also go another route on the wheel and do something with depth and seriousness. There are many different colors to paint with when you’re an artist.

"More than anything, I don’t want to get trapped in just one type of role. I think funny is an appendage, but it’s not my whole body."

http://www.dispatch.com/features-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/02/18/20070218-D1-03.html

:eek: Just noticed the date today when I posted this. :eek:

[father ted]

Ya, I just posted about people ripping off other people's ideas. It happens a lot in the seminar business; everybody steals from everybody else. I actually saw one of those videos, years ago. Drunvalo seemed to be a gentle soul, wanting to be of service. I'll tell you why: he emphasized the need for emotional healing to quicken Consciousness. That to me indicated he was coming from love; the occult players don't want to touch that shit with a 10 metre pole. I think he sincerely wanted to be responsible about not wanting the info to be misused, rather than worrying about losing money.

He wasn't making any money off it, he was distributing his dvd's freely, I also think he wanted to be responsible.
The google vid of Drunvalo that I saw, wasn't the best quality and I didn't get it all. You mentioned the golden spiral. Is that the type of spiral that is the DNA? I didn't understand how the DNA forms that (I can't remember what it's called) doughnut shape on top, or how the DNA actually starts. Also, I didn't quite get how the two shapes that create the spiral, actually create the spiral affect.

[misscpb]

Well, Michael Jordan was 23, so maybe that rubbed off on him! :o

Let me throw something out here, and we'll see if it sticks...

What if the number 23 is just a "door" to manipulating the fabric of the matrix?

So, if this is so, then the premise of the movie AND what misscpb would BOTH be valid points.

It then becomes a matter of intention; it's just like dynamite. We can use it to build a tunnel under the english channel, or use it to destroy the WTC.

Unfortunately for most of us, it seems that historically the ones who know about this stuff seem to have less than benevolent intentions.

Now my knowledge of the Fibonacci sequence is a bit rusty and certainly not comprehensive. With the caveat that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing, here goes:

I looked at my previous post (where I said 23 is not in the Fibonacci sequence (FS). That's not exactly true.

Here's the sequence...

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233 and so forth

So, it's easy to see that the next number in the sequence is derived by adding the two previous numbers together:

0 + 1 =1; 1+1=2; 2+1=3; 2+3=5 and so forth.

So, taking a short leap of logic, I would posit that 23 IS part of the FS.

Many times in numerology, numbers side by side are implied to be additive.
For example, in the numerology of our birth number, the numbers are added together. Here's mine:

August 5, 1959 . That would be

8 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 9 = 37

3 + 7 = 10

So, my birth number is 37/10. There's a whole lot more schmeer why it's grouped like that, but I won't get into it here.

My point was that PERHAPS the number 23 is supposed to be 2+3= 5.
Someone had mentioned earlier in the thread that 5 is an active number, and it is. It's also a number of spiritual perfection (the five cardinal virtures) and also physical unity (the five elements in Taoism).

So, it seems to all boil down to intention and awareness. It' really no different than becoming aware of the power of logos, symbols, etc. We're all energy. If we become aware of these relationships, and start to notice when and where they show up, they have less power over us. Energy follows attention, and our very attention alters, however slightly, the fabric of the Universe.

So that's one aspect. The other aspect of the FS is that the adjacent numbers have ratios between them that approach Phi, or the Golden Mean.

Now, the Golden Mean is PLASTERED all over the Masonic symbolism, and Nature itself. The ratio of the golden mean/phi is 1.6180339...a repeating sequence on into infinity, if I remember correctly (either that, or it's a non-repeating sequence that goes on-- but maybe that's Pi. My head hurts all of a sudden :confused: ).

But I digress. The ratios of the numbers in the FS don't exactly equal PHI, but they come closer and closer the bigger the numbers get. Here goes:

1 /1 = 1.0
2 / 1 = 2.0
3 / 2 = 1.5

Now ready for the kicker?

5 / 3 = 1.66666666
8 / 5 = 1.60
13 / 8 = 1.625
21/13 = 1.615384

It's interesting to me that 1.666 just happens to be the ratio between 5 and 3.


Again, I don't claim to be sage, seer, mystic, or geiger-counter of the imponderables, but this is just as meaningful as anything in the movie. :p

Great Post

[misscpb]

‘THE NUMBER 23’
Mystical figure interests actor
Sunday, February 18, 2007
Cindy Pearlman
NEW YORK TIMES SYNDICATE


In the mood for something new, Jim Carrey seems especially receptive to all things "23."

The actor stars in The Number 23, a thriller that will open, appropriately, on Feb. 23.

Carrey plays Walter, a suburban father and dogcatcher leading a normal life until the day his wife (Virginia Madsen) buys a strange book, written anonymously, about the number 23.

Suddenly their lives start falling apart, careening into mayhem and murder.

Walter even looks different from any previous Carrey character, with long, dark hair and a large, creepy, gothic tattoo.

Actually, he says, the idea isn’t so different from those of most other Carrey movies, which are usually weird. It’s simply weird in a different way.

"I loved this character, Walter, because he’s the ultimate family guy," says Carrey, 45. "He’s a guy who just wants to have a normal life. He’s most of us who just want things to be stable. But, like most of us, Walter is in denial. I think that we’re all in a constant state of denial about the fact that we live on plates of rock that are floating through an unknown universe."

The fact that a simple number causes Walter’s universe to go berserk isn’t as bizarre as it sounds. There are those who think that there is something mystical about the number 23.

"A friend of mine in Canada handed it down to me because he saw it everywhere," Carrey says. "Then he gave me a book of 23 phenomena, which listed all the strange dates and odd occurrences. I thought he was crazy. But then I started seeing 23 everywhere.

"It entered my life in a big way," he says. "Suddenly I started driving all of my friends crazy."

Then someone mentioned Psalm 23, the Biblical poem with the passage "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. . . . Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."

"It’s basically about living without fear and knowing that you’re taken care of," Carrey says.

Suddenly things made sense to Carrey, to such an extent that he even changed the name of his production company from Pitbull Productions to JC23.

"I was on the Net talking to someone about changing the name of my company to JC23," Carrey recalls, "and my friend talked about that psalm. . . . about the ‘valley of the shadow of death.’ At the same time, another friend walked into my office with a newspaper . . . that had a big headline that read, ‘Death Valley Blooms.’ It was the first time in 100 years that it did bloom because of extraordinary rain. Those seeds were waiting for 100 years.

"I thought: ‘How fitting. I think I’m on a weird and special journey here,’ " Carrey says.

Then he got a phone call that turned things a little spooky.

"I was explaining this company-name change to another friend," the actor says, "and he said: ‘That’s funny. I just wrote a script about the number 23.’ I was totally freaked out. The first page of the script had me as this animal catcher capturing a pit bull. I went from Pitbull Productions to JC23, and the reason was not lost on me.
"The writer even told me to turn to the 23 rd page in his script and then asked me to start circling every 23 rd word on that page. It was written like a code that was really cool."

Carrey has a folder of pictures he took to document "23 incidents."

"I took these with my camera phone," Carrey says. "Look, here’s a tow truck from when my car broke down, with a 23 on the side. It’s the 23 rd truck in their fleet. I got the driver to take a picture of me with it. Look at the car in front of us in the picture. He has a 23 on his license plate.

"When I got to the hotel room here," he continues, "I was put in Room 1223. I look out my terrace, and the awning across the street is for the address 323. And then I ordered some breakfast, and there was a 23 written on my pancakes.

"OK, I made the last one up," he says, laughing. "But the rest is true, and it’s eerie and freaky."

In a separate interview, director Joel Schumacher offers his own "23 incident," from the day he agreed to make the film.

"I was brushing my teeth afterward thinking, ‘It will be my 20 th movie if I do it, and I wish it were my 23 rd,’ " he recalls. "But then I thought, ‘What about those two TV movies? So this is your 23 rd job.’ I couldn’t wait for the next morning to call Jim and tell him about it."

The Number 23 is far from Carrey’s first drama — his resume includes everything from The Dead Pool (1988) and Simon Birch (1998) to Man on the Moon (1999) and The Majestic (2001) — but it’s easily his darkest. Still, he insists that he doesn’t think of his work in terms of dramas, comedies, thrillers or whatever categories people might put them into.

"I’ve really always thought of myself as someone who lives in the middle of this wheel," he says. "I’m able to go to the extremes — which is the outside of the wheel. I can go out there and be zany and fun, but I can also go another route on the wheel and do something with depth and seriousness. There are many different colors to paint with when you’re an artist.

"More than anything, I don’t want to get trapped in just one type of role. I think funny is an appendage, but it’s not my whole body."

http://www.dispatch.com/features-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/02/18/20070218-D1-03.html

:eek: Just noticed the date today when I posted this. :eek:

Hi There

You made me laugh when you said "Just noticed the date" what timing hey.

Take Care

[harpalchemist]

Number 23 has been covered extensively by Robert Anton Wilson in his Trilogy "Cosmic Trigger",especiall book 2.It is a part of the fibonacci sequence also.I think ultimately it is an example of how to study synchronicity.

[tru3]

Number 23 has been covered extensively by Robert Anton Wilson in his Trilogy "Cosmic Trigger",especiall book 2.It is a part of the fibonacci sequence also.I think ultimately it is an example of how to study synchronicity.

Thanks, harpal! I'll be on the watch for this.

p.s. went to see the number 23 yesterday. it's not what i thought it would be, but still worth a look. in the first part of the movie carey plays the same kind of schmoe he played in the truman show, but with an edge. lol. to me, the main theme of the movie was that we create our own reality, which is true enough, as far as it goes...

p.s.s. they talked a little about the quotients between 2 and 3; remember how i mentioned 5 divided by three is 1.666? Well, I forgot the obvious: 2 divided by three is .666! :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

[father ted]

Well, I forgot the obvious: 2 divided by three is .666!

That's it, we got it! Now, what does 666 mean? (please don't write in saying it's the number of the beast)

[tru3]

That's it, we got it! Now, what does 666 mean? (please don't write in saying it's the number of the beast)


To be honest with ya, Ted, I don't know what we got here. Maybe five blind people touching an elephant lol.

ok, where are we at?

1) the number 5 gets things done.
2) 2 and 3 have relationships both to 5 (creation) and .666 (destruction?)

again, imv, it's not what 666 means, it's what the number means in relationship to another number. Energetic waves and frequencies are all about harmonics and resonance.

One can view 666 as associated with satanism, or one can view view it as the number of destruction: death, if you will. Death makes room for the creation of new life. It's part of the cosmic cycle. There is some kind of association between the number and Shiva, the hindu goddess of creation and destruction. :confused: couldn't determine exactly why, but it's there, nevertheless.

my hypotheses: the numbers 2 and 3 and 5 are part of an energetic progression that resonates throughout all physical structures, from the molecular level out into the galactic level. i say physical but our etheric bodies are organized around the same geometry.

i keep saying imv, imv, but just look at the evidence. these relationships and ratios are built into the fabric of the universe. they are inherently nuetral: neither good nor bad without intentions, simply potential energy, in the classical physics sense. further, i would posit that the illuminati, et al, have learned how to manipulate these gateways.

Someone on this thread posted the whole 23 phenomena was an exercise in synchronicity. I would add awareness and discernment to that. I believe the awareness is all that is required to nuetralize any manipulation of the ratios and gateways. we can't become truly free until we realize the extend to which we have been enslaved, how deep the betrayal runs. when enough people get it-- really get it-- freedom will prevail.

[tru3]

"16. For he is ever a sun, and she a moon. But to him is the winged secret flame and to her the stooping starlight.
(Easily Tiphereth symbolism, in many ways.)

“Him” and “her” presumably refer to 666 & 667. (More broadly, this verse refers to the universal essence of male and female, of course.) There are documented astral confirmations of details given in this verse, however, for what is usually called “the solar body,” i.e. the mental body proper, which conforms to Greek ideals of beauty.

As already said, with reference to the prior verse, 666 is solar-phallic Wisdom, and 667 is lunar-yonic Understanding. This verse confirms it.

But the second sentence has a structural strangeness. “to him is... the flame” seems incomplete. Does it mean to him is attributed the winged flame? Or what? It seems adequately clear poetically, in a vague way, but does not hold up on critical grammatical analysis.

Broadly, it shows 666 = Sun corresponding somehow to Hadit, and 667 = Moon, corresponding somehow to Nuit.

Note also that Hadit is uniquely described as a “winged secret flame.” I previously postulated that “secret center” = “secret fire”; and this verse confirms that, too. It is another way of saying that Hadit is Yod. (4/3/95 EV; tweaked on various dates thereafter)"

I believe that hadit, yod, nuit are all terms associated with qabbalah. i know nothing about qabbalah, and have no plans to explore it. also, the site it came from mentioned aliester crowley. see this is what i mean: all this information has been suppressed and secreted for thousands of years, when it's our birthright to know about it: our spacesuits are made using these patterns!

anybody know anything about this, with respect to these themes?

[father ted]

anybody know anything about this, with respect to these themes?

I think Yod also means: God, Goth, Gotha, Yoda, Juda, etc.

[tru3]

I think Yod also means: God, Goth, Gotha, Yoda, Juda, etc.

sounds plausible. i don't mess with qabbalah. imo, it's a pre-programed vortex designed to suck in the unwary. that's probably my bias, though. i do know that there's enough numerology involved (every letter in the hebrew alphabet is also a numerical value-- go figure! :rolleyes: ) that it could be just another aspect of the same energy dynamic.

[roadscholar]

‘THE NUMBER 23’

Then someone mentioned Psalm 23, the Biblical poem with the passage "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. . . . Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."

"It’s basically about living without fear and knowing that you’re taken care of," Carrey says.

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Interesting discussion about the number 23. I haven't seen the movie yet. In my own progression there was a period marked by the number 23. Naturally, the big difference between spirituality and religion is the question. Who am I? did I ask instead of Who is God? Thus, Psalm 23 with The Lord is my shepherd ...does not answer my question. However, a "guide" who came across my path during that period told me that "if I didn't want anything, I'll have everything." At this point in my development, I see guides as aspects of Myself.

I do agree with Carrey's interpretation because I speak from experience. I yielded my personality to my Higher Self. This is hard to do. You're basically telling Yourself (spirit) to take over the ship while the personality (that wants to read, watch movies, sing and dance) is being silenced. The result is that you appear as a helpless person who is the last to know what's going to happen in her/his life. Again, these are my experiences. The situations get often comical and annoying. I learned to understand phrases I considered empty such as Patience is a Virtue.

Misscpb's interpretation of 23 being a very positive, freedom style, uplifting and (almost) spiritual number is close to my own observations. During my travels I was playing darts in a pub in England. Enthusiastic about a spiritual insight, I started talking about it. A "warning" came - I saw his spirit wrapped by the energy layers of the onion and his number: 32. Then mine: 23. True or not, at that moment it was totally clear to me to shut up. 23 meant spiritual and 32 meant 3 dimensional bowl and 2 parallel universes. I "knew". I mean an inner knowing different from book knowledge.

Just adding my two cents.

[tru3]

Interesting discussion about the number 23. I haven't seen the movie yet. In my own progression there was a period marked by the number 23. Naturally, the big difference between spirituality and religion is the question. Who am I? did I ask instead of Who is God? Thus, Psalm 23 with The Lord is my shepherd ...does not answer my question. However, a "guide" who came across my path during that period told me that "if I didn't want anything, I'll have everything." At this point in my development, I see guides as aspects of Myself.

I do agree with Carrey's interpretation because I speak from experience. I yielded my personality to my Higher Self. This is hard to do. You're basically telling Yourself (spirit) to take over the ship while the personality (that wants to read, watch movies, sing and dance) is being silenced. The result is that you appear as a helpless person who is the last to know what's going to happen in her/his life. Again, these are my experiences. The situations get often comical and annoying. I learned to understand phrases I considered empty such as Patience is a Virtue.

Misscpb's interpretation of 23 being a very positive, freedom style, uplifting and (almost) spiritual number is close to my own observations. During my travels I was playing darts in a pub in England. Enthusiastic about a spiritual insight, I started talking about it. A "warning" came - I saw his spirit wrapped by the energy layers of the onion and his number: 32. Then mine: 23. True or not, at that moment it was totally clear to me to shut up. 23 meant spiritual and 32 meant 3 dimensional bowl and 2 parallel universes. I "knew". I mean an inner knowing different from book knowledge.

Just adding my two cents.

Thanks for the contribution, roadscholar.

"Naturally, the big difference between spirituality and religion is the question. Who am I?"

Thanks for cutting through the clutter and focusing on the big picture! :D Outstanding!

To me, this subject is fascinating, but not particularly important. I'm not interested in becoming a "Master of the Universe" or "doing" anything with this knowledge. I just feel it's important people become aware that they are sooooo much more than these spacesuits. I am no more my mer ka ba than I am my arm, my hand, or my fingernail. It's just something for Consciousness to ride around in and enjoy the scenery.

5 seems to be a gateway to creation, 666 a gateway to dis-integration. Again, entirely nuetral and inert, until coupled with conscious intention.

Thanks again for putting some perspective on this topic.

p.s. Interesting story about 32. I believe the door swings both ways. Perhaps 32 is some kind of reverse polarity....

p.s.s. "The result is that you appear as a helpless person who is the last to know what's going to happen in her/his life. Again, these are my experiences. The situations get often comical and annoying. I learned to understand phrases I considered empty such as Patience is a Virtue."

One analogy that made sense to me was this: think of driving down a country road at night. No moon, no streetlights, pitch black. You can only see 10 metres in front of you. Every once in a while, you see a sign that says you're heading in the right direction. But you don't have to see the entire route in order to get where you're going. You simply need to be alert, aware, and trust that you'll be able to read the signs coming out of the darkeness. Any kind of fear diminshes clouds our intuition. Trust, balanced with discernment, seems to be the key.

[i am all i am]

"To truly understand numerology we must first know the essential metaphysical meaning of the numbers as based on the original arcane meaning taught 2,500 years ago by Pythagoras.

*ONE is the first physical number. As the only absolute number, it is the symbol of divine expression. It is the key to verbal self expression and the expression of the ego as a microcosm of the divine (the macrocosm). It is the key to our communication skills.

*TWO is the first spiritual (feeling) number. It represents the duality of humans and symolises the gateway to our sensitivities, as well as our need to be part of a pair. It is the number of intuition.

*THREE is the first mind (thinking) number. Following the primary verbal (1) and intuitive (2) expressions comes the mental. It is the gateway to the concious mind and to rational understanding, the focus of left-brain activity, the key to memory. The number 3 is symbolised by the triangle, representing the connection of mind, soul and body.

*FOUR is the number at the centre of the physical (doing) plane, the key to roderliness, practicality and organising. It is symbolised by the square, the basis of all practical construction.

*FIVE is the centre of the soul (feeling) plane and the very centre of the total Birth Chart. It is the spiritual number representing love and freedom of expression.

*SIX is the centre of the mind (thinking) plane, where it represents creativity, the integration of the left and right lobes of the brain. It also represents the opposite of creativity - destruction. This is "negative" creativity expressed as woryy, stress, anxiety and depression.

*SEVEN is the symbol of the temple, the human body and its seven chakras or power centres. It is the teaching learning number, the number of practical philosophical experience. Such learning is usually aquired through sacrifice as the means of indelible instruction.

*EIGHT is the most active spiritual number, situated at the active end of the soul plane. it is the number of wisdom expressed intuitively through loving action. It brings independence into focus.

*NINE is the three-fold number at the action and of the mind plane. As mind in action, it represents ambition (the physical aspect), responsibility (the thinking aspect) and idealism (the spiritual aspect), and so combines the attributes of each of the previous numbers.

*ZERO is a symbol rather than a number. The 0 is present in many birth dates and has an important symbolic significance. Philosophically and mathematically, it represents nothing (as the numerator) and everything (as the denominator), the two infinite ends of the finite, neither of which is physically attainable. Thus, it is a totally mystical symbol, indicative of the degree of spiritual mysticism inherent (but rarely developed) in the individual. Anyone who has one or more zeros in their birth date has an inherent spirituality that they should recognise, for it has the potential to assist them to understand many of the deeper aspects of life (such as life's purpose, the power of thought and the process of reincarnation)."

Discovering the Inner Self
The Complete Book of Numerology
- Dr David A. Phillips
Pages 6, 7 and 8.

Here is an easy to understand interpretation of each number. Another good source is 'Serpent in the Sky, the High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt' - John Anthony West, taken from the work of R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz, pages 32-37.

6, 6, 6 can be shown as the three positive aspects of creation in TRUTH/JOY/LOVE and the three negative aspects of destruction LIES/PAIN/FEAR. 9 is the total of 6+6+6, and is also regarded as the number of man. Hence in revelations, "Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of man: His number is 666.", is a desription of the three negative aspects of the 6 being chosen by man to create the beast.

This is obviously merely my own interpretation.

2 and 3 are the first two numbers that are only divisible by themselves and 1, and when added together give the next number only divisible itself and 1, 5. 2 becomes 3 through love (the 5), as man and woman (2) gives birth to their offspring(1), thus creating a total of 3.

Hope this helps.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOU BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[snog]

One small thing I've noticed lately is that a lot of brand new model cars in my city have been issued with triple digit number plates such as 333, 666, 000
:confused: And Im not the only one to notice this.

Are we being bombarded with numerology on a subconscious level? Not that there is anything wrong with numerology, but like everything it can be used for both benevolent or malevolent purposes.

[i am all i am]

G'day snog,
I agree with you that numerology can be used for both benevolent and malevolent purposes.
I remember reading somewhere that Pythagoras spent 22 years (in the Pythagorean system 22 is the 'highest' spiritual number) studying with the Egyptian priesthood. We also use the music scale from Pythagoras, which is different from the Eastern music scale.
It is possible that numerology and music that has been passed through the Pythagorean system is an entrapment. Although it is also possible that numerology, like music, is another language (encoded system) that is merely a way of describing the oneness and therefore a tool that can be used, like you said, for benevolent or malevolent purposes.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[father ted]

And what about when someone has a good win in a grand slam, the winning score is 666.

[i_am]

And what about when someone has a good win in a grand slam, the winning score is 666.



Not if they are tie-breaker sets :)

[tru3]

G'day snog,
I agree with you that numerology can be used for both benevolent and malevolent purposes.
I remember reading somewhere that Pythagoras spent 22 years (in the Pythagorean system 22 is the 'highest' spiritual number) studying with the Egyptian priesthood. We also use the music scale from Pythagoras, which is different from the Eastern music scale.
It is possible that numerology and music that has been passed through the Pythagorean system is an entrapment. Although it is also possible that numerology, like music, is another language (encoded system) that is merely a way of describing the oneness and therefore a tool that can be used, like you said, for benevolent or malevolent purposes.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

thanks, i am! this is an extremely crucial issue, imo. That's kind of the way i personally feel about qabbalah: it's symbols (hebrew letters in combination) of a symbol (an intellectual concept). it's twice removed from Experience. that leads me to believe it's a distortion of truth, not a revelation of it.

it occurred to me that since the harmonics and numerical relationships are built into the architecture of the matrix, anyone can have a direct experience of it. this is the ultimate test of any idea or theory: does it resonate for me? thoughts and theories are fingers pointing at the moon, not the moon itself. and unfortunately, this is one of those fuzzy areas where a lot of time and energy can be spent exploring dead-end streets and cul de sacs. trust me, i've been on enough "spiritual snipe hunts" to say this for certain! :o

i have learned from my studies that in the egyptian mystery schools, initiates spent 12 years in the right eye school (the masculine, intellectual) and 12 years in the left eye school (the feminine, emotional/intuitive). the whole idea was to not only learn all the ratios and symbols, but also to cleanse the emotional body; without this, the soul could be torn apart by its "own" fear and subconscious blocks-- or rather, the identification with them.

personally, i would avoid any esoteric or occult practise that does not address emotional issues. and i think it's been pretty well established (at least in my mind) that the reptilians, et al, have no emotional bodies. that's how we can most easily discern who they are (ye shall know them by their fruits-- in other words, judge by results). the emotional body is a function of the mammalian, not the reptilian brain (or more accurately, the mammalian brain is a function of the emotional body). it's of a higher order (when i say higher, i mean it's a greater level of organization and connection).

just my opinion, for what it's worth...

[roadscholar]

thanks, i am! this is an extremely crucial issue, imo. That's kind of the way i personally feel about qabbalah: it's symbols (hebrew letters in combination) of a symbol (an intellectual concept). it's twice removed from Experience. that leads me to believe it's a distortion of truth, not a revelation of it.

it occurred to me that since the harmonics and numerical relationships are built into the architecture of the matrix, anyone can have a direct experience of it. this is the ultimate test of any idea or theory: does it resonate for me? thoughts and theories are fingers pointing at the moon, not the moon itself. and unfortunately, this is one of those fuzzy areas where a lot of time and energy can be spent exploring dead-end streets and cul de sacs. trust me, i've been on enough "spiritual snipe hunts" to say this for certain! :o


personally, i would avoid any esoteric or occult practise that does not address emotional issues. and i think it's been pretty well established (at least in my mind) that the reptilians, et al, have no emotional bodies. that's how we can most easily discern who they are (ye shall know them by their fruits-- in other words, judge by results). the emotional body is a function of the mammalian, not the reptilian brain (or more accurately, the mammalian brain is a function of the emotional body). it's of a higher order (when i say higher, i mean it's a greater level of organization and connection).

just my opinion, for what it's worth...

I can tell you speak from experience. You made some interesting observations. An important impetus in the "search for Self" is whether something resonates; it ties in with synchronicity. I agree with your assessment of the reptilians. In my dealings with them I did notice that they have a strong fear of being exposed. As far as I know, they function as a group and cannot understand individuality.

Tru3, thanks for your comments re my post on the number 23. I am having problems getting logged in to the Forum. This morning is the first time I got through in three days.

[i am all i am]

G'day Tru3,

I've had the Kabbalah 'pushed' at me through the book 'The Golden Dawn'. I felt a very negative vibration associated with it and the person who 'pushed' it. I therefore returned the book with my thanks and did my own research and experimentation using my intuition and inner knowing/connection.

The Hebrew alphabet is a representation of their system of numerology. In his book 'The Secret in the Bible', Tony Bushby shows the representation of the Hebrew alphabet hidden in the Tarot deck. The Hebrew alphabet has 22 letters representing 22 numbers - the 22 Major Arcana cards of the Tarot. The Tarot deck is actually the Book of Thoth. Bushby was given guidance by a Gypsy (read Egyptian) woman in his search for the truth. The twelth card (symbol) is The Trial (Hanging Man), whose letter in Hebrew is Lamed. The remarks for this card are very significant to what you have written.

"REMARKS: This symbol depicts a man hanging from a thick branch defenslessly tied up by one foot. Helpless and abandoned by everyone, he is suspended between heaven and earth. The symbol has a remarkable mythical parallel in the story of Shemyaza, one of the Fallen Angels and leader of the Watchers in the Book of Enoch. He was tied and bound before being hung upside-down forever between heaven and earth. It sometimes indicated 'the Victim', one being sacrificed for the plans or intrigues of others."
The Secret in the Bible - Tony Bushby, page 209.

Bushby finds it encoded with Psalm 199, which has 22 verses, consisting of eight lines each verse, within the bible. The biblical clue is: 'Set me free....between heaven and earth' (Psalm 119:20).

Further, he notes that the Hebrew alphabet was created by using a physical representation of the DNA strand (the Rainbow Serpent of the Australian Aborigine).

"When the plastic or metal reproduction of the Rainbow Serpent is slowly revolved, 22 different shaped shadows are cast from that one element, and those shapes directly make up the 22 seperate letters of the alphabet that the Torah was written in. Put in the simplest terms, the alphabet in which the Torah of the Bible was originally and secretly written was one composed of a series of 22 cosmic glyphs that emanated with 'splendour and power in the form of a serpent' from a vertical spiral of light in the Benben on top of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Evidence of that knowledge points directly at the undeniable input of a higher intelligence."
The Secret in the Bible - Tony Bushby, page 256.

In my personal belief, the secret of total oneness within the physical (ascension, etc.) is contained WITHIN our DNA strand. Therefore, the Kingdom of Heaven is within. I remember reading something once where the gods or whoever is looking to hide the secret of creation from mankind, the final line in the passage was something like "...then I will hide it in a place that no man will look, I will hide it inside man". The keys to unlocking our DNA vary from hallucinogens to meditation. There are many pathways leading to the one place. Enjoy the journey.

"The Last Words of Thrice Great Hermes
Wise words, although written by my decaying hand, remain imperishable through time; Imbued with the medicine of immortality by the All-Master. Be unseen and undiscovered by all those who will come and go, wandering the wastelands of life. Be hidden, until an older heaven births human beings who are worthy of your wisdom."
The Hermetica, the lost wisdom of the pharaohs - Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy, page 6.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[father ted]

"When the plastic or metal reproduction of the Rainbow Serpent is slowly revolved, 22 different shaped shadows are cast from that one element, and those shapes directly make up the 22 seperate letters of the alphabet that the Torah was written in. Put in the simplest terms, the alphabet in which the Torah of the Bible was originally and secretly written was one composed of a series of 22 cosmic glyphs that emanated with 'splendour and power in the form of a serpent' from a vertical spiral of light in the Benben on top of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Evidence of that knowledge points directly at the undeniable input of a higher intelligence."
The Secret in the Bible - Tony Bushby, page 256.

Great post!
I think those 22 different shaped shadows that are cast are the reminisant of the 22 bits of strand from the DNA that have now been described by scientists as being like a beem of light or something, a transmission.

[father ted]

Not if they are tie-breaker sets :)

I just wonder if they made it deliberate that if someone has a GOOD win, that the score is 666 as opposed to a more of a struggle like 776 or something. Maybe the symbolism has something to do with great success in accordance to 666, or that's what they want you to believe. ;)
Either way, I think sport has been greatly tainted. :rolleyes:

[i am all i am]

G'day Father Ted,

I'm not very computor literate otherwise I could post you the glyphs. If you'd like a copy I do know how to e-mail it. There is also a great chart that shows three series of seven cards ("plus the 0 card that defies classification"), in which the first row of each to the seventh row of each, when added together, total 6. For example, the first row, 1+2+3=6, and the seventh row, 19+20+21=60 and 6+0=6.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[tru3]

i am,

thanks for the feedback. and thanks for the great post. it adds a lot to the whole thread! :)

G'day Tru3,

I've had the Kabbalah 'pushed' at me through the book 'The Golden Dawn'. I felt a very negative vibration associated with it and the person who 'pushed' it. I therefore returned the book with my thanks and did my own research and experimentation using my intuition and inner knowing/connection.



have you ever been scanned? i met a guy at a party who was doing workshops on esp. i absolutely knew this guy was sending out his auric field to check out people in the room (no, he wasn't hitting on me lol :p ) it turned out this guy was completely out of integrity in a number of areas of his life. it sounds like to me you were being psychically recruited.

G'day Tru3,

The Hebrew alphabet is a representation of their system of numerology. In his book 'The Secret in the Bible', Tony Bushby shows the representation of the Hebrew alphabet hidden in the Tarot deck. The Hebrew alphabet has 22 letters representing 22 numbers - the 22 Major Arcana cards of the Tarot. The Tarot deck is actually the Book of Thoth. Bushby was given guidance by a Gypsy (read Egyptian) woman in his search for the truth. The twelth card (symbol) is The Trial (Hanging Man), whose letter in Hebrew is Lamed. The remarks for this card are very significant to what you have written.

"REMARKS: This symbol depicts a man hanging from a thick branch defenslessly tied up by one foot. Helpless and abandoned by everyone, he is suspended between heaven and earth. The symbol has a remarkable mythical parallel in the story of Shemyaza, one of the Fallen Angels and leader of the Watchers in the Book of Enoch. He was tied and bound before being hung upside-down forever between heaven and earth. It sometimes indicated 'the Victim', one being sacrificed for the plans or intrigues of others."
The Secret in the Bible - Tony Bushby, page 209.

Bushby finds it encoded with Psalm 199, which has 22 verses, consisting of eight lines each verse, within the bible. The biblical clue is: 'Set me free....between heaven and earth' (Psalm 119:20).



i had no idea there was a connection betwenn the tarot and the qabbalah. i did know that there is a tarot deck built into the ordinary deck of playing cards everyone uses.

this theme of being "between heaven and earth" is prevalent in taoist texts. the only instances i know of ratios used in taoist healing is measuring finger widths out from certain "landmarks" on the body to find meridians and meridian points. that's pretty common.

i do remember drunvalo on that video saying basically that the 3rd dimension's sole purpose in "sacred geometry" was to bridge the gap between "aboriginal" consciousness (2nd dimension) and "christ" consciousness in the 5th (his words, not mine-- please don't shoot the messenger! :o i know there's all kinds of politically incorrect connotations here, but i'm simply investigating the information here, not advocating its use!)

so one could interpret that as we're all between heaven and earth; we're all, in a larger sense, the hanging man!



Further, he notes that the Hebrew alphabet was created by using a physical representation of the DNA strand (the Rainbow Serpent of the Australian Aborigine).

"When the plastic or metal reproduction of the Rainbow Serpent is slowly revolved, 22 different shaped shadows are cast from that one element, and those shapes directly make up the 22 seperate letters of the alphabet that the Torah was written in. Put in the simplest terms, the alphabet in which the Torah of the Bible was originally and secretly written was one composed of a series of 22 cosmic glyphs that emanated with 'splendour and power in the form of a serpent' from a vertical spiral of light in the Benben on top of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. Evidence of that knowledge points directly at the undeniable input of a higher intelligence."
The Secret in the Bible - Tony Bushby, page 256.

In my personal belief, the secret of total oneness within the physical (ascension, etc.) is contained WITHIN our DNA strand. Therefore, the Kingdom of Heaven is within. I remember reading something once where the gods or whoever is looking to hide the secret of creation from mankind, the final line in the passage was something like "...then I will hide it in a place that no man will look, I will hide it inside man". The keys to unlocking our DNA vary from hallucinogens to meditation. There are many pathways leading to the one place. Enjoy the journey.


there's your missing link to the dna fadda ted!

somewhere in icke's "Only Love is Real", he cites research on the dna as a sophisticated radio antenna. it's my belief that most of what we call our personality is simply programming put there by the matrix. we also get transmissions from our "higher selves", but there's a reason it's called the small, still, voice, and this data gets drowned out in the synthetic data.

i agree with you, the kingdom is indeed within. based on my own experience and study, i feel that the human energy field starts in the dna, but is not limited to our physical bodies. there are different "sheaths" that surround the physical body (as the vedics called them).

david icke says that we are multidimension beings, and that the reason there is so much poison and chaos in the world is that the i. must suppress the human energy field in multiple channels; nutrients removed from the diet, water poisoned with flouride, etc. , thought jammed with too much data, emotional stress and fear from economic and political manipulation.

See, folks, they know that we are infinite Love, we are returning to Source, and they can't do a damn thing about it. Their only desperate chance, it seems to me, is getting everybody 'chipped in time for the big shift.

not gonna happen! :D

p.s. even if the mayan calendar is a bunch of funny squiggles someone carved on a rock, and there is no shift, that's ok too. the point is, if i may be so bold as to suggest, that right now we have the "tools" to begin to free ourselves from the control of the matrix. awareness is the first step.

so it appears to me.

[i am all i am]

I take it that you mean scanned energetically. ???

I was being introduced to reiki and definitely had the feeling that I was being recruited - join the dark side Luke. When I did the first reiki attunement I was told to sit in a chair with my eyes closed while this guy walked around me muttering something and using ritualistic movements of the hand. I've done Wing Chun Kung Fu using blindfolded techniques and had advanced myself personally beyond the training, so I could sense his movements. When he had finished I stood straight up and said "Thank you, I love you" whilst giving him a hug. You should have seen his face. He seemed paralysed with shock and totally unsure of himself. It felt like the attunement 'slid off' (don't know how else to describe it) like it didn't 'stick'. Whilst having a reiki treatment from him, I was muscle tested for positivity, it reached 100% and this is one of the reasons why I think he wanted to recruit me as a 'follower'.

He fucked up when he told me I should not tell everyone about my ideas and keep them between us. Big mistake. It all fell apart for him when I asked a couple of questions that he had great difficulty answering and from then on avoided me like the plague, telling others around at the time to do the same. The others drifted away from him and he ended up moving interstate without ever facing me again.

He obviously wanted to feed off of my energy. By the way his job was as a butcher, ha ha ha. I still recall the first talk that I had with him. We were sitting down in a room by ourselves after being introduced and he was plugging me with questions to ascertain what I knew. I remember telling hime that it all came down to choice and that I choose to live, therfore I cannot die. I could see him internalising as his body language gave him away. I went along as far as I did with everything because I had no fear of him or what he could or couldn't do. To my way of thinking, his energy was his and mine was mine, therefore there was nothing to fear as long as I kept giving him love, and as darkness cannot enter a lighted room, his fear-based energy could not enter through my love-based energy.

He definitely tried to bite off more than he could chew (even though he was about twice my weight,lol). His pushing returned to him and as I said he ran off interstate.

Also, DNA gives off a low level frequency pulse. It is built on a crystalline structure (geometrical) and would obviously be able to send and recieve signals. I believe that we are recorded in the 'Book of Life' (the DNA) through our thoughts, words and actions (that is imprinting our DNA with our message), whilst also being able to 'read' the 'Book of Life' (that is all experiences of ALL THAT IS, or all life).

Food for thought.


With LOVE.
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[tru3]

I take it that you mean scanned energetically. ???

I was being introduced to reiki and definitely had the feeling that I was being recruited - join the dark side Luke. When I did the first reiki attunement I was told to sit in a chair with my eyes closed while this guy walked around me muttering something and using ritualistic movements of the hand. I've done Wing Chun Kung Fu using blindfolded techniques and had advanced myself personally beyond the training, so I could sense his movements. When he had finished I stood straight up and said "Thank you, I love you" whilst giving him a hug. You should have seen his face. He seemed paralysed with shock and totally unsure of himself. It felt like the attunement 'slid off' (don't know how else to describe it) like it didn't 'stick'. Whilst having a reiki treatment from him, I was muscle tested for positivity, it reached 100% and this is one of the reasons why I think he wanted to recruit me as a 'follower'.

He fucked up when he told me I should not tell everyone about my ideas and keep them between us. Big mistake. It all fell apart for him when I asked a couple of questions that he had great difficulty answering and from then on avoided me like the plague, telling others around at the time to do the same. The others drifted away from him and he ended up moving interstate without ever facing me again.

He obviously wanted to feed off of my energy. By the way his job was as a butcher, ha ha ha. I still recall the first talk that I had with him. We were sitting down in a room by ourselves after being introduced and he was plugging me with questions to ascertain what I knew. I remember telling hime that it all came down to choice and that I choose to live, therfore I cannot die. I could see him internalising as his body language gave him away. I went along as far as I did with everything because I had no fear of him or what he could or couldn't do. To my way of thinking, his energy was his and mine was mine, therefore there was nothing to fear as long as I kept giving him love, and as darkness cannot enter a lighted room, his fear-based energy could not enter through my love-based energy.

He definitely tried to bite off more than he could chew (even though he was about twice my weight,lol). His pushing returned to him and as I said he ran off interstate.

Also, DNA gives off a low level frequency pulse. It is built on a crystalline structure (geometrical) and would obviously be able to send and recieve signals. I believe that we are recorded in the 'Book of Life' (the DNA) through our thoughts, words and actions (that is imprinting our DNA with our message), whilst also being able to 'read' the 'Book of Life' (that is all experiences of ALL THAT IS, or all life).

Food for thought.


With LOVE.
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great testimonial. thanks for sharing!

yes, i did mean being scanned energetically.

i also agree about secretive hoarding of knowledge. that's why i wouldn't touch transcendental meditation with a 10 foot pole.

there's a difference between being an open student of life, and being a blind follower. i'm with you: anything that smacks of this, and i'm outta there!

at the same time, i have learned that surrender is crucial to growth: "when i was a child, i spoke like a child" and all that. but it is all about choice, patience, perserverance, and discernment. when we are ripe we will be led and guided to the right and perfect relationships, information, and insights. i've been down a number of blind alleys in the last 15 years, trusted people who i should have known better than to trust, and also found some mentors who have been my rock. if i hadn't taken the risk, put myself out there and had a modicum of trust that everything would be ok, and forgiven myself for my "blunders", my life would definitely be diminished; i'd be sitting somewhere, working in a cubicle, with a severe drinking problem and probably alone with no meaningful relationships. :o

anyway, thanks for the share, i am.

[i am all i am]

You are welcome True3.

By being the unobserved observer, you give your self the gift of discernment to see everything as the way it is. Trust your observation and trust others to be the way that you observe them to be until they show you otherwise. You obviously are sensitive to energies, therefore trust your body to read the in-coming signals without any mental interference. Touch is five times faster than sight, so you will be ahead of those that rely upon their eyes if you are in touch with your 'data receiver' (your body) and the signals it is receiving.

THE JOURNEY

THERE'S A JOURNEY THAT I KNOW,
OF A ROAD LESS TRAVELLED,
IT HELPS THE MIND GROW,
PHILOSOPHY UNRAVELLED.

YOUR AWARENES IS GUIDED,
TO SELF DISCOVERY,
YOUR ACTIONS ARE MINDED,
TO SET YOURSELF FREE.

YES IT'S THE PLEASURE,
OF THE LEARNING ART,
A GIFTED TREASURE,
STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART.

THE SHARING OF KNOWLEDGE,
INVOLVES YOU AND ME,
IT'S NOT TAUGHT IN COLLEGE,
FOR YOUR SOUL TO BE FREE.


With LOVE.
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[tru3]

"By being the unobserved observer, you give your self the gift of discernment to see everything as the way it is. Trust your observation and trust others to be the way that you observe them to be until they show you otherwise. You obviously are sensitive to energies, therefore trust your body to read the in-coming signals without any mental interference. Touch is five times faster than sight, so you will be ahead of those that rely upon their eyes if you are in touch with your 'data receiver' (your body) and the signals it is receiving.
"

again, thanks for the strokes, but let me share one other thing.

i'm not one of those people who was aware that i was sensitive at an early age. i was taught NOT to trust my intuition, that my judgement was poor. combine that with physical and emotional abuse, and a history of alchoholism in my family that goes back generations, and i was one shut down person until my early 30's.

it wasn't until i started doing mental/emotional work, like breathwork, etc. that i began to clear the blocks that had accrued over years of familial and self abuse.

so, i guess what i'm saying is i'm not anything special. we all have gifts beyond the five senses.

[i am all i am]

I didn't 'wake up' until I was 30 years old, seven years ago, and it took braking my back in three places to do it.

The past was merely a perfect solution to bring me to the state that I am now in.

ALL THAT IS is perfect. Therefore the 'ingredients' (experiences) that make up the sum total of ALL THAT IS are perfect. I perfectly broke my back because at a soul level I understood the pathway that I was on and the experiences that I desired for this incarnation.

Another way to look at it is that everything that we have ever thought, said or done has led us to be here now. Therfore, everything that we thought, said and did was perfect to bring us to this moment now.

YOUR OWN SPECIAL PART

THE TRUTH IS HERE,
IN THE WORDS I SAY,
A LOVE THAT'S CLEAR,
TO LEAD THE WAY.

SPECIAL YOU TRULY ARE,
NOW AND ALWAYS,
LIKE A SHINING STAR,
GIVING GOLDEN RAYS.

FOR LOVE IS YOUR SOUL,
AND IT GIVES YOU THE START,
TO MAKE YOURSELF WHOLE,
WORDS FLOW FROM YOUR HEART.

YOUR SOUL IS YOUR FEELING,
YOU FEEL IN YOUR HEART,
IT GIVES WHAT YOU'RE DREAMING,
YOUR OWN SPECIAL PART.

I BELIEVE IN YOU,
AND THE PART YOU PLAY,
IT'S IN EVERYTHING YOU DO,
AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY.

SO I SHARE THE TRUTH,
OF HOW SPECIAL YOU ARE TO ME,
AND MY WORDS ARE PROOF,
THAT MY LOVE I GIVE FOR FREE.


Everyone of us is special in our own way.

With LOVE.
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[father ted]

Taro=torah, torah=taro, can you see?;)

[i am all i am]

I see with my heart.

You are correct Father Ted.

Also, one card (the oneness) becomes three groups of seven (mind/body/soul becoming the physical, as the 7 represents the physical experience) cards. Could be a description of the progression of creation, or the journey we all started out with (the first four letters of our Dna strand that we all have in common as described by Gregg Braden in 'The God Code'), when all being one, we all together took the first four steps. Said another way, here, there and in between here and there, became (formed/created) the physical world (the illusion of seperation) the we could experience ourselves (the oneness) through. Or, thought, word and action became manifest.

With LOVE.
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