View Full Version : Best natural sweetners ??? Xylitol ?
fuggles
24-12-2008, 04:44 PM
Hi, look at red23.co.uk, and look at the natural sweetners section.
Does anyone use this ?? is it safe in the long run ?
alternative_answer
24-12-2008, 05:58 PM
Yes, I have used it, and it's just like sugar and as sweet, good for the teeth also. www.patrickholford.com
fuggles
24-12-2008, 09:15 PM
In fact I read it reverses cavities ?
Someone should have told them before they put fluoride in the water.
fransetter
24-12-2008, 09:31 PM
Xylitol can kill dogs!!!
The best natural sweetner, available from Red23 amoung others is Agave Nectar
fuggles
25-12-2008, 12:36 AM
Yes, well dont feed it to your dog.
Simple, isnt it ?
Ratiocinator
25-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Agave, that bought from shops, tends to be highly processed, and not truly raw (most likely not raw at all). I have stopped using it. For a short video (5-minutes), search 'agave' on www.renegadehealth.com
Raw sweeteners:
Fruit,
Mesquite powder,
Lacuma powder,
Yacon syrup.
alrick888
25-12-2008, 11:59 AM
How about stevia?
Any good?
fuggles
25-12-2008, 03:21 PM
How about stevia?
Any good?
Good but its expensive, since the only tasty version is the liquid tincture.
The poqder has an aftertaste, and the white powder is apparently dangerous to eat.
fuggles
25-12-2008, 03:23 PM
Agave, that bought from shops, tends to be highly processed, and not truly raw (most likely not raw at all). I have stopped using it. For a short video (5-minutes), search 'agave' on www.renegadehealth.com
Raw sweeteners:
Fruit,
Mesquite powder,
Lacuma powder,
Yacon syrup.
Well, its irrelevant if a sweetner is raw or not, but, xylitol is since its extracted through fermentation I think. the ones you listed are more like food/sweetners. Some companies boil the xylitol out, but just choose a high quality verson.
madthumbs
25-12-2008, 05:43 PM
Xylitol can only be safely consumed in very small amounts (ideal for chewing gum).
Stevia, and Miraculin are much better.
More about Sweeteners (http://www.opposingdigits.com/sweeteners/)
fuggles
25-12-2008, 06:59 PM
Xylitol can only be safely consumed in very small amounts (ideal for chewing gum).
Stevia, and Miraculin are much better.
More about Sweeteners (http://www.opposingdigits.com/sweeteners/)
Only small amounts to begin with, until your body gets used to it.
Ratiocinator
25-12-2008, 09:33 PM
Well, its irrelevant if a sweetner is raw or not.
Not true.
Raw food, including sweeteners, anything, in fact, that enters the human body, should be in a natural raw form. Cooked anything is devoid of enzymes and almost totally without nutrients. Furthermore cooked foods have newly developed substances which are alien to the body, cause great stress upon the internal organs, and tend to be carcinogenic.
Cooked things that have then been fermented are not so bad. But I would not touch them.
fransetter
25-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Yes, well dont feed it to your dog.
Simple, isnt it ?
Wouldn't feed it to myself let alone my dogs. Other people have though and their dogs have paid with their lives. If if does that to dogs, what long term affects might it have upon humans.
fransetter
25-12-2008, 09:53 PM
Agave, that bought from shops, tends to be highly processed, and not truly raw (most likely not raw at all). I have stopped using it. For a short video (5-minutes), search 'agave' on www.renegadehealth.com
Raw sweeteners:
Fruit,
Mesquite powder,
Lacuma powder,
Yacon syrup.
I use the raw type. I use raw ingredients whenever possible. Any sweetener can cause problems. Fruit can cause some people problems too. The natural fructose can cause problems where there is insulin resistance.
fuggles
25-12-2008, 10:05 PM
Fine, use raw xylitol. and you only need to be 80 per cent raw, any less than 80 per cent then the body will start attacking itself, and the other associated problems of cooked food.
What about chocolate ? chocolate kills cats, so should i not eat chocolate ? what kind of logic is that ? im presuming your raw vegan, well you presumably feed your cat animal products, but you wouldnt eat animal products would you ?
And if you read about the benefits of it, its not poison. it helps with tooth decay, candida, sinus problems, balancing blood sugar. Its not perfect, but its better than regular white sugar.
Also, it may not be affected by heat, because lots of people cook with it and still receive benefits.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?client=firefox-a&um=1&q=xylitol&btnG=Search+Books
read the free book excerpts.
Also, they can heat raw coconut oil to 1000 degrees, and when it cools down, its the same as it was before, because its stable, so not everything is affected by heat.
also, more research on youtube tells me that the body produces a small amount naturally anyway ! so it must be natural !
Heres a video in the xylitol factory ! http://www.emeraldforestxylitol.com/ecovideo.htm
It doenst look like they heat it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeIUR9Jhhk, gabriel cousens speaks about xylitol
accuracy
26-12-2008, 09:36 AM
Hi, look at red23.co.uk, and look at the natural sweetners section.
Does anyone use this ?? is it safe in the long run ?
Don't take any of that poison.
fuggles
26-12-2008, 06:41 PM
Don't take any of that poison.
I will
thomas00
27-12-2008, 01:04 PM
Good but its expensive, since the only tasty version is the liquid tincture.
The poqder has an aftertaste, and the white powder is apparently dangerous to eat.
Hi Fuggles
You wrote that Stevia white powder, mayby is dangerous to eat. Can you give me some more info about that, because we are using it:)
gaias child
27-12-2008, 02:22 PM
A raw foodist I know did develop neurological problems using stevia on a daily basis. Funny coca cola have now decided to use stevia to replace aspartame.
The best natural sweetners, are dates, other fruits, but not too many.
fuggles
27-12-2008, 03:48 PM
Hi Fuggles
You wrote that Stevia white powder, mayby is dangerous to eat. Can you give me some more info about that, because we are using it:)
Read the amazon.com, not co.uk, reviews of it.
Theres 3 main types of stevia.
Liquid tincture
Powder,
White powder.
Okay, the reviews on amazon.com say they cut it with something else to make it more like white sugar.
http://www.amazon.com/SweetLeaf-Natural-Calories-Stevia-Packets/dp/B001E5E3OE/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1230389073&sr=1-24
http://www.amazon.com/Sun-Crystals-Natural-Sweetener-250-Count/dp/B000M2LC8U/ref=sr_1_22_s9_rk?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&s9r=8a5801be11c256020111dba4dbe6028b&itemPosition=22&qid=1230389073&sr=1-22
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B00068UBGY/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_summary?_encoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000QV8HMQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_summary?_encoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending
amandaooo
27-12-2008, 05:36 PM
honey
fuggles
27-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Okay, it might have some dangers.
Ill try it for a month, and see how I feel, and then not eat it for a month , and see how I feel.
lyrag
28-12-2008, 09:33 PM
I use agave nectar, although after reading that it takes a long time for the plants to grow, im thinking i should look for an alternative
fuggles
16-07-2009, 01:55 AM
A raw foodist I know did develop neurological problems using stevia on a daily basis. Funny coca cola have now decided to use stevia to replace aspartame.
The best natural sweetners, are dates, other fruits, but not too many.
neurological problems ??