Please discuss this "kids" film. (must watch)

[cleft_asunder]

Thanks to drummer from conspiracy central for bringing it to our attention. It ummm really is scary, especially the end where Satan tells us what reality is. Notice how Satan doesn't know right and wrong, he just does things. To me, Satan is the Matrix mind, the fallen angel, the direct creator of the Matrix, fear if you will. Satan is the king of this universe. What do you guys think about what he says?

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=11632

[king]

Thanks to drummer from conspiracy central for bringing it to our attention. It ummm really is scary, especially the end where Satan tells us what reality is. Notice how Satan doesn't know right and wrong, he just does things. To me, Satan is the Matrix mind, the fallen angel, the direct creator of the Matrix, fear if you will. Satan is the king of this universe. What do you guys think about what he says?

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=11632

Sorry, the link that brought you to this page seems to be out of date or broken.

[john white]

Scariest kids tv show EVER!! - YouTube

Found it. Con Central forum is a bugger for going on and off line

[xdnax]

fucking WOW!!!

wtf??

[infinitetruth]

'nothing exists but empty space and you...And you are but a thought'

Crikey...'I have done nothing wrong, for I know not what it is'

What is meant by this film? Why is satan acting as God?

[chattanova]

Thanks to drummer from conspiracy central for bringing it to our attention. It ummm really is scary, especially the end where Satan tells us what reality is. Notice how Satan doesn't know right and wrong, he just does things. To me, Satan is the Matrix mind, the fallen angel, the direct creator of the Matrix, fear if you will. Satan is the king of this universe. What do you guys think about what he says?

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=11632

Thats probably the reason why all world leaders are satanists, I guess they know a lot of what's going on..

[john white]

'nothing exists but empty space and you...And you are but a thought'

Crikey...'I have done nothing wrong, for I know not what it is'

What is meant by this film? Why is satan acting as God?

Satan is not acting as God: he sees mans faults but has no empathy for them. He is acting as Logos: pure intellect: but he cannot understand either man or the creator, becuase he cannot Love. And that is why he does not know what wrong is: without feeling, wrong is just an abstract concept

[infinitetruth]

so are you saying that satan is pure intellect and god is pure love? And that we as humans have both?

Is it possible that satan and god are just personifications of the left and right hemospheres of our brain?

What I couldn't understand was why Satan had the power to create life. As films and cartoons go that was the best Satan I have ever seen.

[peter19]

yeah well most of us know what the illuminati is like about putting it in plane site. so maybe this film is like that (i havent seen it btw) but its easy for people to say "this is satan, never worship this" when in fact its not satan and in fact its the truth.

religions work the same way, just say that its the work of satan and not many people will do it or look into it.

[john white]

so are you saying that satan is pure intellect and god is pure love? And that we as humans have both?

Mostly I'm just using my imagination to vibe with a plot. I'd certainly say the path to Satan is the error of pure intellect and the path to God is to through the heart

Is it possible that satan and god are just personifications of the left and right hemospheres of our brain?

The "Satan" and "Jesus" archtypes, certainly have aspects of that: not the creator though: the creator is the totality of everything and is everywhere

What I couldn't understand was why Satan had the power to create life. As films and cartoons go that was the best Satan I have ever seen.

It was certainly an amazing example of the imaginative arts. Did Satan create life or simulate life by animating the clay with his will in order to decieve the children? A proper theological poser that

[infinitetruth]

The "Satan" and "Jesus" archtypes, certainly have aspects of that: not the creator though: the creator is the totality of everything and is everywhere

Totally agree there.

The cartoon is so intriguing, and a great talking point - amazed that it was a childrens cartoon, as it was so throught provoking, not like the dumbed down cartoons or animes we get a lot on telly. I know it was scary, being satan - it was strange because he asked the children to step aside away from danger acting as though he did care, he seemed a sad character and lonely.

[withthespigotonhot]

Satan is not acting as God: he sees mans faults but has no empathy for them. He is acting as Logos: pure intellect: but he cannot understand either man or the creator, becuase he cannot Love. And that is why he does not know what wrong is: without feeling, wrong is just an abstract concept

wow.

[adramelech]

As a self-styled expert when it comes to identifying triggers and programming in children's entertainment, I'm dumbfounded that I have never stumbled across this before. So blatant as to almost leave the area of subliminal. Incredibly dark. I want to find out, specifically, who was responsible for both writing and animating this.

The character of "Satan" here, or Lucifer (inspiration, light, intellect) is actually very similar to the one found in the video for the Gorillaz song "Clint Eastwood", although it is far lighter in tone.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[john white]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Mark_Twain_(1985_film)

The Adventures of Mark Twain, released in the UK as Comet Quest, is a 1985 stop motion animated film directed by Will Vinton (best known for "The California Raisins" animation). After many years in television syndication, it was released on DVD in January 2006. The film features a series of vignettes extracted from several of Twain's works, built around a plot that features Twain's attempts to keep his "appointment" with Halley's Comet. The concept was inspired by a famous quote by the author:

"I came in with Halley's Comet in 1835. It is coming again next year (1910), and I expect to go out with it. It will be the greatest disappointment of my life if I don't go out with Halley's Comet. The Almighty has said, no doubt: 'Now here are these two unaccountable freaks; they came in together, they must go out together.'"
Included are sketches taken from The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, The Mysterious Stranger, The Damned Human Race, Injun Joe (briefly), The Diary of Adam and Eve (Letters from the Earth), Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven and a rendering of Twain's first story, The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County.

The film also goes by the alternate name of "Comet Quest: The Adventures of Mark Twain" in the UK.
In Britain, it is only available as an ex-rental VHS & is extremely rare.



adventures of Mark Twain animation - Google Search

Presumably the youtube sequence is based on...

Mark Twain's Mysterious Stranger Manuscripts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mysterious_Stranger

The Mysterious Stranger is an unfinished work written by the American author Mark Twain that was worked on periodically from roughly 1890 up until his death in 1910. The body of work is a serious social commentary by Twain addressing his ideas of the Moral Sense and the "damned human race". A "complete" version was published posthumously in 1916 by Twain's biographer Albert Bigelow Paine under the name The Mysterious Stranger, A Romance, but this version is under scrutiny concerning the extent of editing performed on Twain's manuscripts by Paine. The published version is a novella.

Twain actually wrote multiple versions of this story, each unfinished and each involving the character of Satan. The first substantial version is commonly referred to as The Chronicle of Young Satan and tells of the adventures of Satan, the sinless nephew of the more familiar Satan, in an Austrian village in the Middle Ages. The story ends abruptly in the middle of a scene involving Satan entertaining a prince in India, suggesting Twain abandoned this piece before he finished writing it.

The second substantial version Twain attempted to write is known as Schoolhouse Hill which involves the familiar characters of Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer and their adventures with Satan, referred to in this version as "No. 44", and is set in America. Schoolhouse Hill is the shortest of the three versions.

The third version, called No. 44, The Mysterious Stranger, returns to Middle Age Austria and tells of No. 44's mysterious appearance at the door of a print shop and his use of heavenly powers to expose the futility of mankind's existence. This version also introduces an idea Twain was toying with at the end of his life involving a duality of the "self", one being the "Waking Self" and the other being the "Dream Self". Twain explores these ideas through the use of "Duplicates", copies of the print shop workers made by No. 44. This version contains an actual ending, however the version is not considered as complete as Twain would have intended.

The edition published in 1916 is composed mainly of a heavily edited Chronicle of Young Satan with a slightly altered version of the ending from No. 44 tacked on. Paine, who had sole possession of Twain's unfinished work after Twain's death and kept them private, searched through Twain's manuscripts and found the proper intended ending for The Mysterious Stranger. After Paine's death in 1937, Bernard DeVoto became possessor of Twain's manuscripts and released them to the public. Beginning in the 1960's, critics studied the original copies of the story and found that the ending Paine chose for The Mysterious Stranger referred to the characters from different versions of the story (e.g. No. 44 instead of Satan) and that the original names had been crossed out and written over in Paine's handwriting.

The book version that was published nonetheless maintains Twain's sharp attack on the hypocrisy of organized religion that is the subject of much of Twain's later writings. He views religion as a (questionably) "moral" order to protect wealth, power, and oppression.

In 1982, The University of California Press published, as part of The Mark Twain Library Series, a scholarly edition of No. 44, The Mysterious Stranger. According to the "Mark Twain Project" editors of this series, this is the definitive version of the text as close as possible to what Twain would have published had he lived to do so.