Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

[stelios]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

BBC NEWS
Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

Pope Benedict XVI has said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour is just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.

He explained that defending God's creation is not limited to saving the environment, but also protecting man from self-destruction.

The pope was delivering his end-of-year address to senior Vatican staff.

His words, later released to the media, emphasised his total rejection of gender theory.

Pope Benedict XVI warned that gender theory blurs the distinction between male and female and could thus lead to the "self-destruction" of the human race.

Gender theory explores sexual orientation, the roles assigned by society to individuals according to their gender, and how people perceive their biological identity.

Gay and transsexual groups, particularly in the United States, promote it as a key to understanding and tolerance, but the pope disagreed.

When the Roman Catholic Church defends God's Creation, "it does not only defend the earth, water and the air... but (it) also protects man from his own destruction," the pope said.

"If tropical forests deserve our protection, humankind... deserves it no less," the 81-year-old pontiff said, calling for "an ecology of the human being."

It is not "outmoded metaphysics" to urge respect for the "nature of the human being as man and woman," he told scores of prelates gathered in the Vatican's sumptuous Clementine Hall.

The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage. It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.

The pope uses his traditional end-of-year speech to offer his Christmas greetings and say a few words about what he considers the important issues of the day.

This year, Pope Benedict also deplored the tendency to depict the Catholic church's World Youth Day, which he attended in Sydney earlier this year, as mere spectacle.

He stressed that the event should not be considered a "variant of modern youth culture, as a kind of ecclesiastical rock festival with the Pope as the star," but as the fruition of a "long exterior and interior path".

[bensonz]

I find that to be quite a well thought out argument from the Vatican and I'm not even a Cathostant.

[comawhite015]

Now let's see how many people agree with him whilst in other threads call him a Zionist NWO pig who covertly promotes the so-called 'gay agenda'.

Inconsistency!

[abrilliantone]

The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage. It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.




Ah "double talk" at it's finest. So if you're a homosexual it's O.K. Just as long as you don't engage in any homosexual activities.


homosexual

1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex

2 : of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex



So what are they suppose to do when their "sexual urges" begin to arise?



http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/think004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[peachped]

It's just the pope shitstirring again - it would be nice to see a headline of 'people respond to pope shitstirring by saying- hey! Get yr own house in order - stop yr preists from shagging kids you c+nt.

[abrilliantone]

It's just the pope shitstirring again - it would be nice to see a headline of 'people respond to pope shitstirring by saying- hey! Get yr own house in order - stop yr preists from shagging kids you c+nt.


http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/laughing025.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) Yeah, he really should. But then he'll have to 'chastise' himself also. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/violent105.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[romas]

More BS from the BS-Magisterium.

[jesuitsdidit]

how does this fit with the rumours he has a 24 yr old gay lover?

[comawhite015]

how does this fit with the rumours he has a 24 yr old gay lover?

There had better be a whole lot of perks with THAT job.. urgh.

[elirien]

Ah "double talk" at it's finest. So if you're a homosexual it's O.K. Just as long as you don't engage in any homosexual activities.




So what are they suppose to do when their "sexual urges" begin to arise?



http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/think004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

that means again love is not equal sexuality. the pope had probably a hit on the head. this sounds very plausible. hope is mental cure is getting better. he should lay off all that ritual stuff. kinda hard with the ego ;)

[amandaooo]

http://www.hawaiipictures.com/pictures/bigisland/rain_forest11024x768.jpg

http://www.gaykeywest.co.uk/Images/Brighton%20Pride%202007/images/pd13.JPG

I know which I would rather save. The gays or the rain forest? It's a harsh but necessary choice we all must face up at one point in our lives as I am sure you all agree.

[comawhite015]

[IMG]
I know which I would rather save. The gays or the rain forest? It's a harsh but necessary choice we all must face up at one point in our lives as I am sure you all agree.

That's one of the most full of shit statements I've ever seen on this site, and that is saying a *lot*.

[eternal_spirit]

Archbishop of Canterbury and the Archbishop of York condemn gay marriage service

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/archbishop2.jpg

The Archbishop of Canterbury and the Archbishop of York have condemned the recent partnership ceremony of two bishops held over the weekend.
A joint statement released this afternoon reads:
"We have heard the reports of the recent service in St Bartholomew the Great with very great concern.
"We cannot comment on the specific circumstances because they are the subject of an investigation launched by the Bishop of London.
"On the general issue, however, the various reference points for the Church of England's approach to human sexuality (1987 Synod motion, 1991 Bishops'

Statement- Issues in Human Sexuality- , Lambeth motion 1:10, House of Bishops' 2005 statement on civil partnerships) are well known and remain current. "Those clergy who disagree with the Church's teaching are at liberty to seek to persuade others within the Church of the reasons why they believe, in the light of Scripture, tradition and reason that it should be changed. But they are not at liberty simply to disregard it."
One of the gay priests who caused controversy over the weekend for marrying his partner, also a member of the clergy in what was in effect the first gay marriage in a British church has resigned. The Bishop of London is to investigate the incident.
Rev Dr David Lord an Anglican priest based in New Zealand said it "felt it appropriate to lay down his clergy license" last night.
The Reverend Peter Cowell and the Rev Dr David Lord exchanged vows in what is legally a "blessing ceremony" at St Bartholomew the Great in the City of London in May.
A civil partnership ceremony can not by its very nature can not take place in a religious institution although it is legally permissible for a blessing ceremony to take place in one. Indeed, the Liberal Judaism movement has offered services within Synagogues for some time.
In this instance a full Church of England ceremony has taken place although technically gay clergy may only "marry" if they provide reassurance that they will abstain from sex.
The Bishop of London, the Right Rev Richard Chartres, said such services are not authorised in the Church of England. He has asked the archdeacon of London to investigate.



http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-8002.html#

[dreamweaver]

That's one of the most full of shit statements I've ever seen on this site, and that is saying a *lot*.
Where does all this anti-gay shite on the forum come from? I'm all for being against PC, it's one of the worst mind-prisons that's been created for us, but I'm also for "live and let live".

[delamo1999]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

BBC NEWS
Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

Pope Benedict XVI has said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour is just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.

He explained that defending God's creation is not limited to saving the environment, but also protecting man from self-destruction.

The pope was delivering his end-of-year address to senior Vatican staff.

His words, later released to the media, emphasised his total rejection of gender theory.

Pope Benedict XVI warned that gender theory blurs the distinction between male and female and could thus lead to the "self-destruction" of the human race.

Gender theory explores sexual orientation, the roles assigned by society to individuals according to their gender, and how people perceive their biological identity.

Gay and transsexual groups, particularly in the United States, promote it as a key to understanding and tolerance, but the pope disagreed.

When the Roman Catholic Church defends God's Creation, "it does not only defend the earth, water and the air... but (it) also protects man from his own destruction," the pope said.

"If tropical forests deserve our protection, humankind... deserves it no less," the 81-year-old pontiff said, calling for "an ecology of the human being."

It is not "outmoded metaphysics" to urge respect for the "nature of the human being as man and woman," he told scores of prelates gathered in the Vatican's sumptuous Clementine Hall.

The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage. It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.

The pope uses his traditional end-of-year speech to offer his Christmas greetings and say a few words about what he considers the important issues of the day.

This year, Pope Benedict also deplored the tendency to depict the Catholic church's World Youth Day, which he attended in Sydney earlier this year, as mere spectacle.

He stressed that the event should not be considered a "variant of modern youth culture, as a kind of ecclesiastical rock festival with the Pope as the star," but as the fruition of a "long exterior and interior path".


I believe that one reason for this is to create a strong negative reaction from the masses. This in turn will create a us against them and in the end create a situation where we all turn against each other.

It is also becoming well known that the Catholic church "elders" are hypocrates since many of them are closet homosexuals. It also amazes me the lengths that they go to in their attempts to brainwash the masses that homosexuality is a sin.

[amandaooo]

This is a much more serious phenonemum that faces people today also:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksmb6iwPZYo

Now for a child to be paid to say they prefer chips to their daddy and for mums to go out and buy that product because of it... well what more needs to be said?

[free_soul]

Are they giving us a glimse of the future they want to create and prematurly blaming us!?!? :P
He says that we will destroy ourself were there is no babys being born. If you have ever read "1984" they have all but eradicated the orgasm. We have seen that organs over time can become obsolete,look at the pendics, so why wouldnt it work with sexual organs.

[free_soul]

Where does all this anti-gay shite on the forum come from? I'm all for being against PC, it's one of the worst mind-prisons that's been created for us, but I'm also for "live and let live".

Yea i agree im all for being whatever you want, as long as it you don't force it on me.

They are clearly starting to force it and worse the future of the planet potentially.

[daveashe]

I'd rather save the gays AND the rainforest.

[tracker]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

BBC NEWS
Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

Pope Benedict XVI has said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour is just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.



IS THAT POPE FOR REAL ?:eek:

HAS HE LOOKED IN SOMETHING CALLED A MIRROR ?

WHAT A C0MPLETE JOKE ! YET NO JOKE .

ONE OF THE MOST MONSTRIOUSE MEANS OF HOLDING MAN AS SLAVE WHICH HAS KILLED , SLAUGHTERED , RAPED AND PILLADGED MILLIONS , HAVE THE COMPLETE CHEEK TO NOMINATE A REPRESENTATIVE ( POPE ) TO STAND AND TALK ABOUT THREATS ?

WHAT A COMPLETE --NT !:rolleyes:

OF COURSE YOU KNOW WHY THEY HAVE MADE GAYS AN ISSUE DONT YOU ?

ITS BECAUSE THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT GAYS AS BAD PEOPLE , THAT WAY IT TAKES OUR FOCUS AWAY FROM ALL THOSE CHILD RAPISTS IN THE VATAGON !

IM NOT GAY BUT I WOULD TRUST MY CHILD WITH A GAY WOMAN OR MAN


BUT NEVER SOME ONE FROM THE VATAGON !

YUK !

OOOOOOOOOOOO GET ME OUT OF HERE IT MAKES ME SICK .

[angel147]

I think there are a lot of gay people with beautiful souls. I remember when I was a beggar on the streets of Puerto Rico, I met 4 Mormon missionaries. I told them I grew up in a Mormon family, and we talked a few minutes. One of them, an elder Watson, asked if He could get me anything. i could tell by his mannerisms that he was Gay and by the behaviour of the other missionaries, oh it was so sweet, they hovered in as if they were so worried what I would think of him when I realized that he was gay. I didn't care at all and found him to be absolutely gorgeous. I was so thirsty and he walked to the store to get me a bottle of water. I will never forget him. It makes me cry. "the water of life I will give to he that is thirsty" I think of this often. And just recently on the streets of Downtown Chicago, I was stuck outside in the middle of the night, and I had to beg for change , I did not have a way back to my hotel. I had been arrested and released from jail a few hours later in the middle of the night. It is hard to get change in the middle of the night in downtown Chicago. a gay man would have gave me some, I could tell , but he did not have any. he was so sweet. There are such beautiful spirits amongst the gays who love god. I would not put them away. Time is up, people have lived a lot of different lives in bodies of different sexes. It is somewhat confusing. Everyone's test is different, we get power from our suffering, and theirs is a hard suffering indeed. I know Jesus Christ himself loves them a great great deal. And If I had the power to judge I would let them pass. They do not try to teach children to follow them, indeed the opposite, for the have suffered so much. Peace be to the. We all find love however we can get it.

[unimatrix0]

I know which I would rather save. The gays or the rain forest? It's a harsh but necessary choice we all must face up at one point in our lives as I am sure you all agree.

Ummmm, no, I don't agree. To suggest that gay ppl are some form of lesser human being and not worth "saving" is really disgusting. :mad:

[phildee3]

Pope Benedict XVI warned that gender theory blurs the distinction between male and female and could thus lead to the "self-destruction" of the human race.

Gender theory explores sexual orientation, the roles assigned by society to individuals according to their gender, and how people perceive their biological identity.

It is not "outmoded metaphysics" to urge respect for the "nature of the human being as man and woman," he told scores of prelates gathered in the Vatican's sumptuous Clementine Hall.

The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage.



I agree 100% that what consenting adults do in private should not be restricted in any way, and that nobody can say what is "sinful" for another.

But isn't "gay marriage" an oxymoron?

Isn't marriage the fusion of complimentary opposites?

I think the Church has a point here and that the concept of "gay marriage" does blur the distiction between male and female to the detriment of society. It is just as important to preserve the traditional concept of marriage as it is to legitimise gay partnership.

[phildee3]

IM NOT GAY BUT I WOULD TRUST MY CHILD WITH A GAY WOMAN OR MAN



You are a fool.
Being gay (or straight) does not a person trustworthy.

[rhydra]

I'm don't feel threatened by gay people, I don't feel disgusted by them, as anyone who feels that they love someone. How can someone in authority public ally oppose someone else's lifestyle while they themselves complain about members of their faith being persecuted in certain parts of the world. It's like saying, "we don't want other people to tell us what to do but we'll tell everyone else what do and who to have sex with."

[talulah]

What????Thats rich coming from a man who allows his clergy to abuse children he probably fiddles with altar boys himself.Hes the anti christ im sure of it.:mad:

[ennui]

World on the bring of financial meltdown, people being made homeless, rioting in the streets, wars, disease and unimaginable acts of human cruelty being played out on this planet on a daily basis, and yet we'll ignore all that and harp on about gays.

This seems a bit of a diversion to stop us focusing on what really matters.

[talulah]

World on the bring of financial meltdown, people being made homeless, rioting in the streets, wars, disease and unimaginable acts of human cruelty being played out on this planet on a daily basis, and yet we'll ignore all that and harp on about gays.

This seems a bit of a diversion to stop us focusing on what really matters.

totaly agree. its also a diversion as to what goes on in the vatican.

[dreamweaver]

World on the bring of financial meltdown, people being made homeless, rioting in the streets, wars, disease and unimaginable acts of human cruelty being played out on this planet on a daily basis, and yet we'll ignore all that and harp on about gays.

This seems a bit of a diversion to stop us focusing on what really matters.
True nuff. But I can't resist asking what Camilla Parker-Bowles (or whatever her name is now) is doing with Emu in talulah's avatar. ;)

[talulah]

True nuff. But I can't resist asking what Camilla Parker-Bowles (or whatever her name is now) is doing with Emu in talulah's avatar. ;)

HAhhahahah nice one!And aye it does look like ol horse face camilla eh?Maybe Rod Hull and her are like the same person,like jacko and his sister and its really Emu that prince Charles is porkin`:D

[ennui]

Rod Hull used to go out with a lady I used to live next door to.

trufax.

[talulah]

Rod Hull used to go out with a lady I used to live next door to.

trufax.

Yeah?Thats tidy.I wonder if he would take Emu on dates n stuff.:D

Peace

[dreamweaver]

HAhhahahah nice one!And aye it does look like ol horse face camilla eh?Maybe Rod Hull and her are like the same person,like jacko and his sister and its really Emu that prince Charles is porkin`:D

Ah, I can't claim credit for that one, I got it off Ali G. He was interviewing James Whitaker (a former royal correspondent) and this is how it went:

Ali : Do you think that a lot of the objection to Camilla is because she is so minging?

James : So *what*?

Ali : So minging.

James : What does minging mean?

Ali : Her face is very.. ugly. NO me didn't wanna say that.. she's RANK. She's rank.

James : Most women in this country...

Ali : A'ight - are a bit dodgy.

James : Well no, being compared to Diana who was a very beautiful...

Ali : She was tasty.

James : Very tasty - so you put anybody up against Diana and it's a wee bit of a problem. She is also a very fit woman. She rides well -

Ali : She 'aint fit man!

James : No this isn't Diana I understand Prince Charles as well -

Ali : But she look like Rod Hull. *laughs*

:D

[talulah]

Ah, I can't claim credit for that one, I got it off Ali G. He was interviewing James Whitaker (a former royal correspondent) and this is how it went:



Ali : But she look like Rod Hull. *laughs*

:D

Hahaha Superb!Ali G was the bomb eh?:D

[jesuitsdidit]

Hes the anti christ im sure of it.:mad:

according to eric phelps he is - well the cat chch is - run by the jesuits

[jesuitsdidit]

World on the bring of financial meltdown, people being made homeless, rioting in the streets, wars, disease and unimaginable acts of human cruelty being played out on this planet on a daily basis, and yet we'll ignore all that and harp on about gays.

This seems a bit of a diversion to stop us focusing on what really matters.

yep probably..

[orderoutofchaos]

Come on guys, what is this Pope really up to? Why decide to make these comments now?Why make

them at all? This man is very powerful and knows exactly how his comments would be recieved around the

world. I am finding it hard to piece this one together, where could this possibly fit into the NWO agenda.

This is such a huge step for a Pope to make that i feel this is significant in some way.

[stelios]

I'm don't feel threatened by gay people, I don't feel disgusted by them

I agree with you.
Being gay is not a lifestyle choice i would choose for myself but there is no reason they should be discriminated against.
The Catholic church has a high number of gays within it's own ranks as does the Anglican church. So i think the fomer Nazi pope was sending his message to the Catholic masses rather than his own inner circle.

[lightgiver]

I always thought the pope was gay and half the vatican,or is it just they like molesting little boys:confused:

Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

Who is the pope any how ,the all seeing eye?????

what wrong with being gay, lesbian or whatever you fancy being,its naff all to do with that x nazi.

The vatican needs to spend all its money on feeding the poor,instead of expounding tyranny.

Maybe anyone can become the pope just like the president of the USA:rolleyes:

They are all lackeys.

[talulah]

[QUOTE=lightgiver;686850]I always thought the pope was gay and half the vatican,or is it just they like molesting little boys:confused:

Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

Who is the pope any how ,the all seeing eye?????

what wrong with being gay, lesbian or whatever you fancy being,its naff all to do with that x nazi.

The vatican needs to spend all its money on feeding the poor,instead of expounding tyranny.

Maybe anyone can become the pope just like the president of the

USA:rolleyes:


Exellent post.Ive been to Rome and seen the poverty outside on the vatican steps and around it, starving homless people and the vaticns full of gold and riches its disgusting.:mad:

[mcthompson2x]

Yea i agree im all for being whatever you want, as long as it you don't force it on me.

They are clearly starting to force it and worse the future of the planet potentially.

Gay people are not forcing anything on anyone. If they demand the right to be married, and they get married, in what way does this effect you? They are fighting back against the FORCED HETEROSEXUALITY that has been shoved down the throats of both Western and Eastern civilizations for centuries. Fighting back is not "shoving something down your throat" - I'm sick of all of these idiotic people coming up with whatever excuses they need to in order to justify their ignorant bigotry.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're just a bigot. You don't care that you appear like a hypocrite to all gay people (this is directed at all "straight" people who are against gay marriage or gay rights) and intelligent people in the world. You don't care that your DRACONIAN laws have fucked society over time and time again, you don't care that there are many people who have a completely different (and probably more realistic) view of society than you do. Fuck whether or not your idiocy ruins people's lives - THE PRINCIPLE MUST BE ENFORCED! Why? Oh, you don't really know, some bullshit about "nature" although human beings are a part of nature and cannot by definition act unnaturally...

Fuck bigotry. There are a lot of sick bigots on this forum. Those of us who aren't bigots know who you are.

Oh, and by the way, the audacious shoving-down-our-throats "straight" ideal is so hypocritical and based on such a total double standard, that exhibiting any homophobia at all makes you absolutely repulsive in the most spiritual way imaginable. But pigs always love rolling around in mud...

Since the simple-minded bigots never seem to understand, look at it from a gay person's perspective. For centuries the straight warmongering status quo enforcer has been tormenting and beating the shit out of the gay person, for millenia. The gay person one day decides he has had enough shit and starts fighting back - those of you who are bigots (whether you are loathe to hear yourself referred to in such a way or not) will come to the defense of the violent status-quo enforcer and say the gay person was trying to pick a fight. Fuck that. You know, you people have been so offensive to others for your entire lives, that when a minority stands up to you and starts getting just as nasty as you have been, you get shocked because you've never been treated in such a way. Well, guess what - it's karma. You are getting back what you give. Get used to it, this is a free country you fascists. You can't stop total social acceptance of gays from happening, that's why you're kicking and screaming like children. You lose. Forever.

P.S. The world quit believing in the God that terrifies you into obedience a long time ago. There's only one hell and you're already here. If you are so primitive as to still be homophobic when there is so much knowledge available to you, you'll probably remain here for a very long time.

[jesuitsdidit]

rainforests are crucial for the planet's survival, what people do in bed isn't..
not of the same order, popy..

[lightgiver]

[QUOTE=lightgiver;686850]I always thought the pope was gay and half the vatican,or is it just they like molesting little boys:confused:

Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

Who is the pope any how ,the all seeing eye?????

what wrong with being gay, lesbian or whatever you fancy being,its naff all to do with that x nazi.

The vatican needs to spend all its money on feeding the poor,instead of expounding tyranny.

Maybe anyone can become the pope just like the president of the

USA:rolleyes:


Exellent post.Ive been to Rome and seen the poverty outside on the vatican steps and around it, starving homless people and the vaticns full of gold and riches its disgusting.:mad:

you are correct it is absolutely disgusting,and for this reason i believe they are satanic:( tainting and using the true message of the Christ.

SHEEPS in wolves clothing if ever i saw any.

[jesuitsdidit]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

BBC NEWS
Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

He explained that defending God's creation is not limited to saving the environment, but also protecting man from self-destruction.

i'd say GM crops, haarp, concentration camps, chemtrails, space weapons, engineered viruses etc etc are far more likely to lead to man's self-destruction than what people do in bed (altho' ive heard methane can contribute to global warming)

but seeing as the NWO is run by the Jesuits who r just down the road he can probably eliminate all those threats by popping-in one day and having a chat on the inherent dangers of such devices; then all we'd have to worry about is the rainforests and homosexuals and i'm sure we cd sort that one out..

btw do u think he and his 24 yr old gay lover use a condom??

[bicycle]

POPE Benedict has called for a renewed global effort to cap the level of gay emissions.


The Pope said gayness was at least as dangerous to humanity as global warming, if not more so given all that hot boy-on-boy action.

In his end of year address to Vatican prelates, he said: "They go to nightclubs and dance and take their tight t-shirts off and get all sweaty and before you know it it's off to the bogs for 20 minutes of furtive cock-fun.

"There they are, in the bogs, going off in each others hands, emitting all kinds of juices and fluids."

He added: "Once these fluids are out, you can't put them back. And eventually there will be so much of this goo sloshing all over the place that the polar bears will slip on it and die.

"It will spill over into the oceans and all the penguins and cormorants and seagulls will be covered in it and they will have to be scrubbed clean by volunteers. But not by me, no way, I'm not touching some penguin that's all covered in gayboy juice."

The Pope has demanded an international cap on gay emissions alongside a system of gay trading where bigger countries buy gay emissions from the smaller, more efficient gay producing nations.

He also called for investment in 'fluid-capture' technology where millions of tonnes of gay juice would be stored in vast underground chambers before being tested, cleaned and used to make new Catholics.

[steevo]

POPE Benedict has called for a renewed global effort to cap the level of gay emissions.


The Pope said gayness was at least as dangerous to humanity as global warming, if not more so given all that hot boy-on-boy action.

In his end of year address to Vatican prelates, he said: "They go to nightclubs and dance and take their tight t-shirts off and get all sweaty and before you know it it's off to the bogs for 20 minutes of furtive cock-fun.

"There they are, in the bogs, going off in each others hands, emitting all kinds of juices and fluids."

He added: "Once these fluids are out, you can't put them back. And eventually there will be so much of this goo sloshing all over the place that the polar bears will slip on it and die.

"It will spill over into the oceans and all the penguins and cormorants and seagulls will be covered in it and they will have to be scrubbed clean by volunteers. But not by me, no way, I'm not touching some penguin that's all covered in gayboy juice."

The Pope has demanded an international cap on gay emissions alongside a system of gay trading where bigger countries buy gay emissions from the smaller, more efficient gay producing nations.

He also called for investment in 'fluid-capture' technology where millions of tonnes of gay juice would be stored in vast underground chambers before being tested, cleaned and used to make new Catholics.

lmao :D Did he REALLY say those things ?

[jesuitsdidit]

i'd say GM crops, haarp, concentration camps, chemtrails, space weapons, engineered viruses etc etc are far more likely to lead to man's self-destruction than what people do in bed (altho' ive heard methane can contribute to global warming)

but seeing as the NWO is run by the Jesuits who r just down the road he can probably eliminate all those threats by popping-in one day and having a chat on the inherent dangers of such devices; then all we'd have to worry about is the rainforests and homosexuals and i'm sure we cd sort that one out..

btw do u think he and his 24 yr old gay lover use a condom??

i shld add, i agree over-population is a problem but i'm sure we can sort that out without having to slaughter everyone, at least let us examine the options or do you just want a world of mengele-boys??

[joe911]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

BBC NEWS
Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

Pope Benedict XVI has said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour is just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.

"The catholic church is also against abortion,,who are less likely to have abortions than gay people?"- George Carlin
Theres nothing wrong with homosexuality like ive said before,,if god has a problem with it then he is more than welcome to txt me/email me or appear to me in a dream :rolleyes:

He explained that defending God's creation is not limited to saving the environment, but also protecting man from self-destruction.

Doesnt it occour to him that gay men are repulsed by vaginas?? If it were gods will for every person to produce offspring why did he create infertility?
All of the gay people i have spoken to over the past few years (including my christian bf daniel) arent no threat to humanity,,they are more at risk because of how society sees us.

His words, later released to the media, emphasised his total rejection of gender theory.

Pope Benedict XVI warned that gender theory blurs the distinction between male and female and could thus lead to the "self-destruction" of the human race.
See above:cool:


Gender theory explores sexual orientation, the roles assigned by society to individuals according to their gender, and how people perceive their biological identity.

Gay and transsexual groups, particularly in the United States, promote it as a key to understanding and tolerance, but the pope disagreed.
Ok my spidey sense tells me that 99.9999 percent of gays dont give a shit what the pope thinks :p

When the Roman Catholic Church defends God's Creation, "it does not only defend the earth, water and the air... but (it) also protects man from his own destruction," the pope said.
I see been cooped up in the vatican all day seriously affects his logic,,when we are born into this reality the only thing that can be certain is that we will die one day so why not let everyone live happily and how they see fit? And on the logic side of things people cant help there hormones or free will and lets face it nobody exept the catholics listen to that prick so pope heres my proposition to you: you shushhhhh and be a good little puppet and me and friends will come read you a bedtime story ;)

"If tropical forests deserve our protection, humankind... deserves it no less," the 81-year-old pontiff said, calling for "an ecology of the human being."
I beg to differ,,,humankind will never be perfect as long as there are tossers and authority keeping everybody under control, once people are free from opression only then can we be expecting changes.


It is not "outmoded metaphysics" to urge respect for the "nature of the human being as man and woman," he told scores of prelates gathered in the Vatican's sumptuous Clementine Hall.
Surprisingly the ones who respect "nature of man and woman" are gays and lesbions,since we are seen as the "freaks" of nature we just accept it, guys love women so what,guys love guys to and women love women, if loving someone with all your heart is wrong then get me out of this reality asap.

The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage. It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.
oh my heart bleeds......(yawns same old catholic bs trying to control people)
hate to be vulgar but do men and women not have anal sex? (btw thats not a retorical question but from what ive seen at school :confused:)

The pope uses his traditional end-of-year speech to offer his Christmas greetings and say a few words about what he considers the important issues of the day.
Right so out of all the things wrong with the world,ie the illiminati corporations ect ect,,, he decided to gay bash?

This year, Pope Benedict also deplored the tendency to depict the Catholic church's World Youth Day, which he attended in Sydney earlier this year, as mere spectacle.
Tell him hull pride 09 are looking for speakers:cool:

[ipopacific]

i believe hes talking in code its common knowledge that the satinists have three main names for those that know the truth and dont join them (gay ,spiders and gypsies) considering just about every satinist engages in homosexual activities it makes more sence to me they are deeply concerned with those of us who know the truth spreading the word hence they dont mind u being "gay" as long as u dont actively engage in acts (teach others) which would inevitably collaspe there matrix and stop life as we know it (freedom)

[jesuitsdidit]

i believe hes talking in code its common knowledge that the satinists have three main names for those that know the truth and dont join them (gay ,spiders and gypsies) considering just about every satinist engages in homosexual activities it makes more sence to me they are deeply concerned with those of us who know the truth spreading the word hence they dont mind u being "gay" as long as u dont actively engage in acts (teach others) which would inevitably collaspe there matrix and stop life as we know it (freedom)

oh, so its a warning?

[kappy0405]

for all the Christians that seem to support discrimination/bigotry?, here is message straight from Jesus himself.. well, disguised as Jack Black anyway.. ;)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

God comes in at 1:00-2:00

"The Bible sais a lot of things.. Shellfish is an abomination.. you can stone your wife, and sell your daughter into slavery."

Why not enforce those laws too then?

[jesuitsdidit]

for all the Christians that seem to support discrimination/bigotry?, here is message straight from Jesus himself.. well, disguised as Jack Black anyway.. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5-fZKg4Uj4

God comes in at 1:00-2:00

"The Bible sais a lot of things.. Shellfish is an abomination.. you can stone your wife, and sell your daughter into slavery."

Why not enforce those laws too then?

good one, kappy..

[le chuck]

it's just the pope shitstirring again - it would be nice to see a headline of 'people respond to pope shitstirring by saying- hey! Get yr own house in order - stop yr preists from shagging kids you c+nt.


amen ! lol

[jos08]

POPE Benedict has called for a renewed global effort to cap the level of gay emissions.


The Pope said gayness was at least as dangerous to humanity as global warming, if not more so given all that hot boy-on-boy action.

In his end of year address to Vatican prelates, he said: "They go to nightclubs and dance and take their tight t-shirts off and get all sweaty and before you know it it's off to the bogs for 20 minutes of furtive cock-fun.

"There they are, in the bogs, going off in each others hands, emitting all kinds of juices and fluids."

He added: "Once these fluids are out, you can't put them back. And eventually there will be so much of this goo sloshing all over the place that the polar bears will slip on it and die.

"It will spill over into the oceans and all the penguins and cormorants and seagulls will be covered in it and they will have to be scrubbed clean by volunteers. But not by me, no way, I'm not touching some penguin that's all covered in gayboy juice."

The Pope has demanded an international cap on gay emissions alongside a system of gay trading where bigger countries buy gay emissions from the smaller, more efficient gay producing nations.

He also called for investment in 'fluid-capture' technology where millions of tonnes of gay juice would be stored in vast underground chambers before being tested, cleaned and used to make new Catholics.
ROFL :D this is what he should have said :D:eek:.

[jock1056]

Come on guys, what is this Pope really up to? Why decide to make these comments now?Why make

them at all? This man is very powerful and knows exactly how his comments would be recieved around the

world. I am finding it hard to piece this one together, where could this possibly fit into the NWO agenda.

This is such a huge step for a Pope to make that i feel this is significant in some way.


pope killed by gay gunman? there a tomb awaiting his arrival soooooooooooooon.

[comawhite015]

Yea i agree im all for being whatever you want, as long as it you don't force it on me.

They are clearly starting to force it and worse the future of the planet potentially.

Another full of shit statement.

It's not that you don't want it 'forced' on you, or that you're 'fine with it as long as they keep it behind closed doors', you just don't want to see us anywhere *at all*. And anyway, gay people make up quite a small part of the population. You must think we're pretty fucking powerful to change the future of the planet. And you must think heterosexual people are pretty weak. I thought we were supposed to be the fairies.

Fuck you. Grow up.

edit: Why are you allowed to 'force' the 'straight agenda' on me then in pretty much every TV show and advertisement? Cuz you're more 'normal' or 'natural' than me, right?

Superiority complex, much?

Bigotry, much?

Condescension, much?

Oh no, but you are all about infinite love and all that shit, right?

Hypocrite.

'Free Soul', my ass. You're chained by your own dogma and hatred.

[jesuitsdidit]

Another full of shit statement.

It's not that you don't want it 'forced' on you, or that you're 'fine with it as long as they keep it behind closed doors', you just don't want to see us anywhere *at all*. And anyway, gay people make up quite a small part of the population. You must think we're pretty fucking powerful to change the future of the planet. And you must think heterosexual people are pretty weak. I thought we were supposed to be the fairies.

Fuck you. Grow up.

edit: Why are you allowed to 'force' the 'straight agenda' on me then in pretty much every TV show and advertisement? Cuz you're more 'normal' or 'natural' than me, right?

Superiority complex, much?

Bigotry, much?

Condescension, much?

Oh no, but you are all about infinite love and all that shit, right?

Hypocrite.

'Free Soul', my ass. You're chained by your own dogma and hatred.

hi coma,

i havent read many of free soul's posts but his english can be quite confusing, also he recently had to spend a few days in 'the nut house' (his words)

my feeling is (cd b wrong) he's not being anti-gay altho the words cd b interpreted that way,
if he is then i think your sentiment is justified but it might be worth checking who's side he's on
apologies for the lack of clarity, ive only been a member since july and its been a long haul, so some of us r a bit frazzled..

i think all im saying is it may be appropriate to go a bit easy on free soul, send him a msg n c wot e ses?? .. he may take a bashing like that the wrong way??

if you look thru his posts (click on his name then 'find all posts') you may be able to work out his thinking and understand him better - any questions, just ask..

[comawhite015]

hi coma,

i havent read many of free soul's posts but his english can be quite confusing, also he recently had to spend a few days in 'the nut house' (his words)

my feeling is (cd b wrong) he's not being anti-gay altho the words cd b interpreted that way,
if he is then i think your sentiment is justified but it might be worth checking who's side he's on
apologies for the lack of clarity, ive only been a member since july and its been a long haul, so some of us r a bit frazzled..

i think all im saying is it may be appropriate to go a bit easy on free soul, send him a msg n c wot e ses?? .. he may take a bashing like that the wrong way??

if you look thru his posts (click on his name then 'find all posts') you may be able to work out his thinking and understand him better - any questions, just ask..

Sorry mate, but he knows what he said. The bashing stays, and I do not apologise. I've seen that statement a million times before and you cannot say that there isn't a disgusting amount of ignorance in it.

Standing ground with this one.

[jesuitsdidit]

Sorry mate, but he knows what he said. The bashing stays, and I do not apologise. I've seen that statement a million times before and you cannot say that there isn't a disgusting amount of ignorance in it.

Standing ground with this one.

ok, i'll ask him to clarify.. stand by..

[jhado]

Who is this pope guy anyway , or any other religious leader?

I don't recall Jesus or (add your own personal saviour/prophet here) saying that we ever needed a middle-man to talk to God.

[jesuitsdidit]

Who is this pope guy anyway , or any other religious leader?

I don't recall Jesus or (add your own personal saviour/prophet here) saying that we ever needed a middle-man to talk to God.

jesus said, where there are 2 or 3 people gathered in my name, there i will be among you, so yeah, i guess u cd b right..

[jesuitsdidit]

ok, i'll ask him to clarify.. stand by..

this is what he said-
Originally Posted by free_soul
Yea i agree im all for being whatever you want, as long as it you don't force it on me.

They are clearly starting to force it and worse the future of the planet potentially.

the first bit is self-explanatory - he's pretty easy-going
in the second bit, i think (cd b wrong) he's talking about NWO

my feeling tells me he's not anti-gay

anyway hav 2 go now, will be bak 2moro to try and sort this one out..

hope thats ok..

[comawhite015]

this is what he said-
Originally Posted by free_soul
Yea i agree im all for being whatever you want, as long as it you don't force it on me.

They are clearly starting to force it and worse the future of the planet potentially.

the first bit is self-explanatory - he's pretty easy-going
in the second bit, i think (cd b wrong) he's talking about NWO

my feeling tells me he's not anti-gay

anyway hav 2 go now, will be bak 2moro to try and sort this one out..

hope thats ok..

Lumping gay people and the NWO in the same paragraph actually says a lot.

'Do what you like as long as you don't force it on me' is bullshit when it comes to the topic. Who's doing any forcing? No one is 'forcing' anyone to change sexuality. Is having gay people in the public eye 'forcing'?

Apparently some people think so. And it reeks.

[dogsmilk]

Oh noes! There are only 6 billion people left on earth and the number is rising! The gays will destroy us all! Quick! let's bring back mindless bigotry before it's too late!

[comawhite015]

Oh noes! There are only 6 billion people left on earth and the number is rising! The gays will destroy us all! Quick! let's bring back mindless bigotry before it's too late!

*hysterical laughter*

I love you. Have my babies. =D

[dogsmilk]

I love you. Have my babies. =D

That's how it's going to happen!!!!

They're learning to breed and will fill the world with gay babies!!!!

[joe911]

....those who accuse the Pope of being a Zionist NWO pig who covertly promotes the so called gay agenda

There is no such thing as the "gay agenda" and i should know,,,its a choice,nobodys forced into it and it doesnt harm anybody,,out of all the shit going on in the world if people cent bring themselves to accept that some guys love guys and women love women then what hope do we ever have of peace or even just been civil to one another??

[ayomide]

I think there are a lot of gay people with beautiful souls. I remember when I was a beggar on the streets of Puerto Rico, I met 4 Mormon missionaries. I told them I grew up in a Mormon family, and we talked a few minutes. One of them, an elder Watson, asked if He could get me anything. i could tell by his mannerisms that he was Gay and by the behaviour of the other missionaries, oh it was so sweet, they hovered in as if they were so worried what I would think of him when I realized that he was gay. I didn't care at all and found him to be absolutely gorgeous. I was so thirsty and he walked to the store to get me a bottle of water. I will never forget him. It makes me cry. "the water of life I will give to he that is thirsty" I think of this often. And just recently on the streets of Downtown Chicago, I was stuck outside in the middle of the night, and I had to beg for change , I did not have a way back to my hotel. I had been arrested and released from jail a few hours later in the middle of the night. It is hard to get change in the middle of the night in downtown Chicago. a gay man would have gave me some, I could tell , but he did not have any. he was so sweet. There are such beautiful spirits amongst the gays who love god. I would not put them away. Time is up, people have lived a lot of different lives in bodies of different sexes. It is somewhat confusing. Everyone's test is different, we get power from our suffering, and theirs is a hard suffering indeed. I know Jesus Christ himself loves them a great great deal. And If I had the power to judge I would let them pass. They do not try to teach children to follow them, indeed the opposite, for the have suffered so much. Peace be to the. We all find love however we can get it.

This is a very sincere thing you wrote and also very positive. You have met some really good people in your life and this post erases that stereotpye of homosexual men as being catty and obnoxious - not all of them are that - Thank-You:)

Gay people are not forcing anything on anyone. If they demand the right to be married, and they get married, in what way does this effect you? They are fighting back against the FORCED HETEROSEXUALITY that has been shoved down the throats of both Western and Eastern civilizations for centuries. Fighting back is not "shoving something down your throat" - I'm sick of all of these idiotic people coming up with whatever excuses they need to in order to justify their ignorant bigotry.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're just a bigot. You don't care that you appear like a hypocrite to all gay people (this is directed at all "straight" people who are against gay marriage or gay rights) and intelligent people in the world. You don't care that your DRACONIAN laws have fucked society over time and time again, you don't care that there are many people who have a completely different (and probably more realistic) view of society than you do. Fuck whether or not your idiocy ruins people's lives - THE PRINCIPLE MUST BE ENFORCED! Why? Oh, you don't really know, some bullshit about "nature" although human beings are a part of nature and cannot by definition act unnaturally...

Fuck bigotry. There are a lot of sick bigots on this forum. Those of us who aren't bigots know who you are.

Oh, and by the way, the audacious shoving-down-our-throats "straight" ideal is so hypocritical and based on such a total double standard, that exhibiting any homophobia at all makes you absolutely repulsive in the most spiritual way imaginable. But pigs always love rolling around in mud...

Since the simple-minded bigots never seem to understand, look at it from a gay person's perspective. For centuries the straight warmongering status quo enforcer has been tormenting and beating the shit out of the gay person, for millenia. The gay person one day decides he has had enough shit and starts fighting back - those of you who are bigots (whether you are loathe to hear yourself referred to in such a way or not) will come to the defense of the violent status-quo enforcer and say the gay person was trying to pick a fight. Fuck that. You know, you people have been so offensive to others for your entire lives, that when a minority stands up to you and starts getting just as nasty as you have been, you get shocked because you've never been treated in such a way. Well, guess what - it's karma. You are getting back what you give. Get used to it, this is a free country you fascists. You can't stop total social acceptance of gays from happening, that's why you're kicking and screaming like children. You lose. Forever.

P.S. The world quit believing in the God that terrifies you into obedience a long time ago. There's only one hell and you're already here. If you are so primitive as to still be homophobic when there is so much knowledge available to you, you'll probably remain here for a very long time.

I totally agree with everything you say here! Finally someone with the balls to point out this injustice :)

POPE Benedict has called for a renewed global effort to cap the level of gay emissions.


The Pope said gayness was at least as dangerous to humanity as global warming, if not more so given all that hot boy-on-boy action.

In his end of year address to Vatican prelates, he said: "They go to nightclubs and dance and take their tight t-shirts off and get all sweaty and before you know it it's off to the bogs for 20 minutes of furtive cock-fun.

"There they are, in the bogs, going off in each others hands, emitting all kinds of juices and fluids."

He added: "Once these fluids are out, you can't put them back. And eventually there will be so much of this goo sloshing all over the place that the polar bears will slip on it and die.

"It will spill over into the oceans and all the penguins and cormorants and seagulls will be covered in it and they will have to be scrubbed clean by volunteers. But not by me, no way, I'm not touching some penguin that's all covered in gayboy juice."

The Pope has demanded an international cap on gay emissions alongside a system of gay trading where bigger countries buy gay emissions from the smaller, more efficient gay producing nations.

He also called for investment in 'fluid-capture' technology where millions of tonnes of gay juice would be stored in vast underground chambers before being tested, cleaned and used to make new Catholics.

:D The best post so far!!!:p:

"The catholic church is also against abortion,,who are less likely to have abortions than gay people?"- George Carlin
Theres nothing wrong with homosexuality like ive said before,,if god has a problem with it then he is more than welcome to txt me/email me or appear to me in a dream :rolleyes:

Doesnt it occour to him that gay men are repulsed by vaginas?? If it were gods will for every person to produce offspring why did he create infertility?
All of the gay people i have spoken to over the past few years (including my christian bf daniel) arent no threat to humanity,,they are more at risk because of how society sees us.

Ok my spidey sense tells me that 99.9999 percent of gays dont give a shit what the pope thinks :p

I see been cooped up in the vatican all day seriously affects his logic,,when we are born into this reality the only thing that can be certain is that we will die one day so why not let everyone live happily and how they see fit? And on the logic side of things people cant help there hormones or free will and lets face it nobody exept the catholics listen to that prick so pope heres my proposition to you: you shushhhhh and be a good little puppet and me and friends will come read you a bedtime story ;)

I beg to differ,,,humankind will never be perfect as long as there are tossers and authority keeping everybody under control, once people are free from opression only then can we be expecting changes.

Surprisingly the ones who respect "nature of man and woman" are gays and lesbions,since we are seen as the "freaks" of nature we just accept it, guys love women so what,guys love guys to and women love women, if loving someone with all your heart is wrong then get me out of this reality asap.

oh my heart bleeds......(yawns same old catholic bs trying to control people)
hate to be vulgar but do men and women not have anal sex? (btw thats not a retorical question but from what ive seen at school :confused:)

Right so out of all the things wrong with the world,ie the illiminati corporations ect ect,,, he decided to gay bash?

Tell him hull pride 09 are looking for speakers:cool:

Also a good post.

I have no opinion or have a wish to express anything regarding what the Pope said - I do not wish to indulge him or anyone who is against homosexuality. I am who I am - I do not enforce my sexuality on anyone, however I do not tolerate the fact that heterosexuality is enforced onto me daily and I mean it. I first knew I liked other boys from a very young age - Grade 1 - I just did not have a word for it and also had to put up with alot of shit from heterosexual my whole life.

Stop the discrimination against gay men only whilst lesbianism is tolerated just for it's erotic nature - yes there are guilty breeders here who do indulge - it's a double standard. Discrimination is what is and it should not be tolerated. I'll also bring to light the discriminations within the gay community and I will start a thread on that sometime - we as homosexuals are just as guilty for discrimination.

I would like to know if there are any lesbians on this forum who wish to express thier veiws - please do so.

Oh and we are all adults here - so lets keep it civil.

Merry Christmas to you all!!

Much love

JM:p

[amandaooo]

I posted : "I know which I would rather save. The gays or the rain forest? It's a harsh but necessary choice we all must face up at one point in our lives as I am sure you all agree."

Comawhite015 stated:

"That's one of the most full of shit statements I've ever seen on this site, and that is saying a *lot*".

Unimatrix stated:

"Ummmm, no, I don't agree. To suggest that gay ppl are some form of lesser human being and not worth "saving" is really disgusting".
__________________



Seems you both failed the test.

You assumed I chose the rain forest:p

Also, for the avoidance of doubt: I was being sarcastic, ironic, sardonic, wry, witty and every so slightly tongue in cheek when I suggested that we all at one point in our lives have to make a choice between gays and the rain forest.

[comawhite015]

I posted : "I know which I would rather save. The gays or the rain forest? It's a harsh but necessary choice we all must face up at one point in our lives as I am sure you all agree."

Comawhite015 stated:

"That's one of the most full of shit statements I've ever seen on this site, and that is saying a *lot*".

Unimatrix stated:

"Ummmm, no, I don't agree. To suggest that gay ppl are some form of lesser human being and not worth "saving" is really disgusting".
__________________



Seems you both failed the test.

You assumed I chose the rain forest:p

Also, for the avoidance of doubt: I was being sarcastic, ironic, sardonic, wry, witty and every so slightly tongue in cheek when I suggested that we all at one point in our lives have to make a choice between gays and the rain forest.


I'm not very bright am I =D

[unimatrix0]

I'm not very bright am I =D

Me neither! But at least we can admit our flaws. :p

Sorry amandaooo :)

[amandaooo]

On the contrary! To respond to a rather patronising, egotistical and self-important person such as I - in a self-depricating manner -as you did; shows a great sense of not having to be right all the time! And that is so much more brighter than most women achieve in their lifetimes. (Gosh I've just upset another applecart haven't I?)

Well done and Merry Christmas!:)

[angel wings]

[QUOTE=phildee3;686199]I agree 100% that what consenting adults do in private should not be restricted in any way, and that nobody can say what is "sinful" for another.

Before I wax lyrical, I wish to share that my brother and my best friend are men I love very much, both of these men have allegedly engaged in homosexual acts on multiple occasions; they may or may not even be engaged in a homosexual act as we speak. But we prefer not to discus such things, so we don’t!

The word gay, and what it has come to mean to all of us, is one of the most recognizable and best known brand names in the world today. That didn’t happen by accident.

And what better recognition for your brand than getting the attention and the exposure of a direct quote from the very lips of the Pope himself, positive or negative. This equates to untold millions, perhaps even billions of dollars worth of free world wide media attention and coverage for your brand - it's untouchable - That didn’t happen by accident.

Extremly clever marketing people haven taken the beautiful word gay. which means: having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music and by association attached these beautiful qualities to homosexual acts. Brialliant brand startegy isnt it?

I can’t use this word today, to me it stands for - Man on Man Anal sex - there is nothing gay about that is there?

The "Gay Pride Parade" in my country is called The HERO Parade.

Hero :a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal: He was a local hero when he saved the drowning child.

Again cleverly associating those wonderful qualities with homosexual acts. Again brilliant stategy

Id be quite happy if it was a private act by consenting adults. But it bloody well isn’t it?

These clever marketing people have ripped the colors of the rainbow out of the sky, slapped it on a flag and used it to roll the man on man anal sex act out of the bedroom, into my vocabulary and on to my city streets.

“I don’t want to know people!” “I don’t care what you get up to together in bed.” “So can you please stop parading down our city streets half naked, in broad day light, simulating sex acts, in front of our children, whilst at the same time making fools and a mockery of yourselves!! “ “Okay Fellas?”

“Now, let’s move onto another commandment, we’ve given this one quite enough of our attention for now what with it being Christmas n all. Now remind me Pontiff, whats that all about again? Oh that’s right, Santa.!”

Thats what the Pope should have said.

http://www.acbrandguidelines.org.uk/images/Gay_11_LR.jpg

Excellent post and I agree, it's no coincidence that the pope is using this speech at this specific time to mention this - the whole thing is well orchestrated and there to set ripples across the masses drawing their attention whether positive or negative. The next few months are likely to show what the point of this statement was. Also your point about the careful wording and branding are completely spot on.

Now before people label me I would like to make the following clear...

We all know that there are much more important issues to be discussed and I would have rathered he addressed one of those. I for one have no respect for the pope or what he stands for. To have such influence over millions and yet he appears to be willingly happy to let many live in poverty while he literally sits on a fortune.

Also I think its important to add that his comment is contradicted as whilst its true that gays are less likely to procreate - the same also applies to people like himself who "supposedly" choose to live a life of celebacy. If we were to all choose that route then humanity would truly come to an end.

The whole debate is one of contractions and people should not waste their time getting upset as this is the entire purpose of this "stunt".

Angel

[jesuitsdidit]

Lumping gay people and the NWO in the same paragraph actually says a lot.

'Do what you like as long as you don't force it on me' is bullshit when it comes to the topic. Who's doing any forcing? No one is 'forcing' anyone to change sexuality. Is having gay people in the public eye 'forcing'?

Apparently some people think so. And it reeks.

if u were aware of the NWO plan, which is our primary business on this site (assuming you r not interested in reptilians and other rubbish, designed to keep u diverted from the truth, which is its the Jesuits of RC Church who r at top of pramid), u wd understand there is much disagreement on this site, its not all sweetness and light as u might hope, therefore, its a good idea to listen to people who've been here a while b4 assuming everyone is yr friend.
people get very heated on this site and sometimes its possible to misinterpret what someone says especially if you only visit occasionally and arent aware of the more subtle changes that go on.
i wish it were different but its not, if u look thru my posts u will see examples of heated exchanges. if you dont know about the NWO may i suggest u spend some time on this forum..;)

[sunya]

We all have infinite potential.

That means we're all bi.

Pretty simple really.

[brainstormer]

"I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side."
- Bill Hicks

[comawhite015]

Doesnt it occur to him that gay men are repulsed by vaginas.


I think Ive heard it all now

Thats a great word, repulsed.

Im a straight man and I have to admit the vagina isnt the most attractive looking thing in the world, but its a darn site less repuslive than the image of one mans penis going in and out of another mans anus and or mouth. Okay!. Thats what GAY means. Its repulsive, keep it in the bedroom please.

Heh, who said that? I'm not repulsed. I'm just completely indifferent. Cuz I'm comfortable with my sexuality.

Having a strong reaction like that means you're.. not..

[michael christopher]

Doesnt it occur to him that gay men are repulsed by vaginas.


I think Ive heard it all now

Thats a great word, repulsed.

Im a straight man and I have to admit the vagina isnt the most attractive looking thing in the world, but its a darn site less repuslive than the image of one mans penis going in and out of another mans anus and or mouth. Okay!. Thats what GAY means. Its repulsive, keep it in the bedroom please.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, which if you were intelligent you would realize had little bearing on the statement you were responding to. It's great to know that you had a strong desire to let everyone know that gay sex is repulsive to you (bet you feel like a man now), but it's completely irrelevant to what was being talked about. Your opinion is just your opinion, that's the end of that.

[sunya]

If you want a chuckle, check out this site:

http://teensagainstporn.com/index.php

[comawhite015]

If you want a chuckle, check out this site:

http://teensagainstporn.com/index.php

That is wicked. I love it :D

Grow up.

So I can be like you? Hell no.

[comawhite015]

Originally Posted by joe911
"The catholic church is also against abortion,,who are less likely to have abortions than gay people?"- George Carlin
Theres nothing wrong with homosexuality like ive said before,,if god has a problem with it then he is more than welcome to txt me/email me or appear to me in a dream

Doesnt it occour to him that gay men are repulsed by vaginas?? If it were gods will for every person to produce offspring why did he create infertility?
All of the gay people i have spoken to over the past few years (including my christian bf daniel) arent no threat to humanity,,they are more at risk because of how society sees us.

Ok my spidey sense tells me that 99.9999 percent of gays dont give a shit what the pope thinks

I see been cooped up in the vatican all day seriously affects his logic,,when we are born into this reality the only thing that can be certain is that we will die one day so why not let everyone live happily and how they see fit? And on the logic side of things people cant help there hormones or free will and lets face it nobody exept the catholics listen to that prick so pope heres my proposition to you: you shushhhhh and be a good little puppet and me and friends will come read you a bedtime story

I beg to differ,,,humankind will never be perfect as long as there are tossers and authority keeping everybody under control, once people are free from opression only then can we be expecting changes.

Surprisingly the ones who respect "nature of man and woman" are gays and lesbions,since we are seen as the "freaks" of nature we just accept it, guys love women so what,guys love guys to and women love women, if loving someone with all your heart is wrong then get me out of this reality asap.

oh my heart bleeds......(yawns same old catholic bs trying to control people)
hate to be vulgar but do men and women not have anal sex? (btw thats not a retorical question but from what ive seen at school )

Right so out of all the things wrong with the world,ie the illiminati corporations ect ect,,, he decided to gay bash?

Tell him hull pride 09 are looking for speakers

He doesn't speak for every gay person on the planet, you know. Christ.

And there is such thing as 'heterophobia'.. usually stemming from the same insecurity that homobphobia comes from.

edit: Personally I find lesbian porn hilarious. Hardly repulsive. Just bloody funny.

[sunya]

personally i find porn hilarious. Hardly repulsive. Just bloody funny.

fyp

[comawhite015]

fyp

ty. iawts.

[jesuitsdidit]

ty. iawts.

?

[jesuitsdidit]

fyp

?

[comawhite015]

Secret gay code words. You wouldn't understand.

[thelateoctober]

non issue. please delete.

[comawhite015]

I was simply defending myself against sarcastic accussations from an obvioulsy homosexual man who took umbridge at me having an opinion of my own. I was also pointing out that the reason for me airing this opinion was as a direct result of his need to tell all of us about his extreme distate towards the female vagina. To use his word again, Repulsed by it.

So Now that you've got your jolleys out of getting a reaction out of me (dam it) can you please refrain from offering me your views on lesbian porn and or any other sick perversions you may enjoy. Im not interested.

Yes. I've gotten what I wanted out of you. Now you can just stop reading the thread if you're so uninterested.

[shuri]

Gay people are not forcing anything on anyone. If they demand the right to be married, and they get married, in what way does this effect you? They are fighting back against the FORCED HETEROSEXUALITY that has been shoved down the throats of both Western and Eastern civilizations for centuries. Fighting back is not "shoving something down your throat" - I'm sick of all of these idiotic people coming up with whatever excuses they need to in order to justify their ignorant bigotry.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're just a bigot. You don't care that you appear like a hypocrite to all gay people (this is directed at all "straight" people who are against gay marriage or gay rights) and intelligent people in the world. You don't care that your DRACONIAN laws have fucked society over time and time again, you don't care that there are many people who have a completely different (and probably more realistic) view of society than you do. Fuck whether or not your idiocy ruins people's lives - THE PRINCIPLE MUST BE ENFORCED! Why? Oh, you don't really know, some bullshit about "nature" although human beings are a part of nature and cannot by definition act unnaturally...

Fuck bigotry. There are a lot of sick bigots on this forum. Those of us who aren't bigots know who you are.

Oh, and by the way, the audacious shoving-down-our-throats "straight" ideal is so hypocritical and based on such a total double standard, that exhibiting any homophobia at all makes you absolutely repulsive in the most spiritual way imaginable. But pigs always love rolling around in mud...

Since the simple-minded bigots never seem to understand, look at it from a gay person's perspective. For centuries the straight warmongering status quo enforcer has been tormenting and beating the shit out of the gay person, for millenia. The gay person one day decides he has had enough shit and starts fighting back - those of you who are bigots (whether you are loathe to hear yourself referred to in such a way or not) will come to the defense of the violent status-quo enforcer and say the gay person was trying to pick a fight. Fuck that. You know, you people have been so offensive to others for your entire lives, that when a minority stands up to you and starts getting just as nasty as you have been, you get shocked because you've never been treated in such a way. Well, guess what - it's karma. You are getting back what you give. Get used to it, this is a free country you fascists. You can't stop total social acceptance of gays from happening, that's why you're kicking and screaming like children. You lose. Forever.

P.S. The world quit believing in the God that terrifies you into obedience a long time ago. There's only one hell and you're already here. If you are so primitive as to still be homophobic when there is so much knowledge available to you, you'll probably remain here for a very long time.
Can I just say that I fucking love you for posting this? This is exactly the problem I have with so many "awakened" people- whether as individuals or groups. I take issue with the fact that so many of them can spout rhetoric about "love" and "acceptance," then go out and support the very same ideals that serve only to dash those two values in every way imaginable. Of course, this doesn't account for everyone on the forum, as I think this thread has shown, but I fail to see how anyone can support David Icke's work, or even frequent this forum, and still harbor prejudices against any portion of society. I've never understood the mentality of so many people I've met- women who fight for the rights of their gender but think homosexuals are "unnatural," or Blacks who struggle for racial equality but jump at the chance to support a discriminatory Native American mascot, or even Caucasian males who are outraged at the wrongdoings of the government but don't have any qualms with fucking over the freedoms of others through the government itself. THIS is one of the main reasons that the world is so messed up. It isn't the Zionist Jews or the Bush family or the work of Satan- it's everyday people who think that just because they are different from someone else they are disconnected from them. But equality can not be selectively applied to any isolated group of people: it's for everyone, or no one.
As for the Pope, he's damn right I'm a threat to society. As an effeminate, bisexual Native American with a knack for free thinking, I'm like a nuclear bomb waiting to be dropped on that pious asshole's world. I saw this quote on a t-shirt once, and I think it reflects how I view the Catholic regime rather well: "It's your hell, you burn in it."

[thelateoctober]

World on the bring of financial meltdown, people being made homeless, rioting in the streets, wars, disease and unimaginable acts of human cruelty being played out on this planet on a daily basis, and yet we'll ignore all that and harp on about gays.

This seems a bit of a diversion to stop us focusing on what really matters.

thats what non-issues do. like same sex marrage, abortion, the envoronmental and peace movements, the presidental election it's all the same. what matters is the way people care about these things. Our dependance on money, dependance on credit and these corporate businesses.

[deafbred]

I love the "gays" the 'murder's' the 'faithless' the 'detestable' the 'sexually immoral'..'liars' ...the 'leaders' of this world.. EVERYONE...because we are ALL ONE.


i just hate the sin

it's dividing us all up


the devil dance continues..

[jesuitsdidit]

Secret gay code words. You wouldn't understand.

why wouldnt i?

[phildee3]

Excellent post and I agree, it's no coincidence that the pope is using this speech at this specific time to mention this - the whole thing is well orchestrated and there to set ripples across the masses drawing their attention whether positive or negative. The next few months are likely to show what the point of this statement was. Also your point about the careful wording and branding are completely spot on.



Well, thank you but it wasn't me that said it.
You've added a huge chunk to my quote.
Only the first sentence is mine.
Please edit accordingly.

[comawhite015]

why wouldnt i?

*chuckle* that was a JOKE =D

fyp = Fixed your post
iawts = I agree with this statement

:D

ohhh dear.

[joe911]

Originally Posted by bensonz
I was simply defending myself against sarcastic accussations from an obvioulsy homosexual man who took umbridge at me having an opinion of my own. I was also pointing out that the reason for me airing this opinion was as a direct result of his need to tell all of us about his extreme distate towards the female vagina. To use his word again, Repulsed by it.

I speak pretty much for the gay teens,ive spoken to many over the past few years and they all dislike vaginas,,but women have them and will continue to have them and if men/women like them then they are entitled to the same way men will have dicks so be happy :cool:

ps merry christmas everyone :)


edit: for the record i dont dislike women many of my friends are girls but i dont like girls in that way...

and also bensonz..my origanal statement was aimed at the pope not you<peace

[jesuitsdidit]

ps merry christmas everyone :)

yeah, and to you..:)

[jesuitsdidit]

*chuckle* that was a JOKE =D

fyp = Fixed your post
iawts = I agree with this statement

:D

ohhh dear.

how was i to know??

[comawhite015]

how was i to know??

You mean you *seriously* think there are secret gay code languages?


*shakes head*.. fuck..

[jesuitsdidit]

if u were aware of the NWO plan, which is our primary business on this site (assuming you r not interested in reptilians and other rubbish, designed to keep u diverted from the truth, which is its the Jesuits of RC Church who r at top of pramid), u wd understand there is much disagreement on this site, its not all sweetness and light as u might hope, therefore, its a good idea to listen to people who've been here a while b4 assuming everyone is yr friend.
people get very heated on this site and sometimes its possible to misinterpret what someone says especially if you only visit occasionally and arent aware of the more subtle changes that go on.
i wish it were different but its not, if u look thru my posts u will see examples of heated exchanges. if you dont know about the NWO may i suggest u spend some time on this forum..;)

this was meant to be helpful, hope it didnt come across as a rant, i'm a bit frazzled at the moment:rolleyes:

[jesuitsdidit]

You mean you *seriously* think there are secret gay code languages?


*shakes head*.. fuck..

i dont know what u youngsters get up to do I??

[michael christopher]

I love the "gays" the 'murder's' the 'faithless' the 'detestable' the 'sexually immoral'..'liars' ...the 'leaders' of this world.. EVERYONE...because we are ALL ONE.


i just hate the sin

it's dividing us all up


the devil dance continues..

The "sin" (the private act that does not include or effect you in any way) only "divides" people because homophobes insist on their bigotry.

[ayomide]

Still at it?:rolleyes: The war between the homosexuals and breeders? mmmm you know what I think I should turn up my flame and just entice a breeder dude give him a beer or 2 and then convince him he's gay (the bigots and homophobes are real easy targets - after a few beers and he's yours - so that explains why some breeders like saying we spreading a gay agenda cause after a night of getting tipsy they took a dip in the gay pond and loved it so much that they hate themselves - I endorse breeders to get sop natt in the pond) - I am bored and plenty of eager breeders here to influence and mind cfuk with - spreading the so called "Gay Agenda"

[drhemp]

Yeah well he'd know wouldn't he? What with all the Roman Catholic priests throughout history that have been fucking choir boys up the arse and engaging in all sorts of obscene acts with children that would make any right minded person sick.

[cycles of time]

Yeah well he'd know wouldn't he? What with all the Roman Catholic priests throughout history that have been fucking choir boys up the arse and engaging in all sorts of obscene acts with children that would make any right minded person sick.

dont forget all the flaming pedophile protestants and orthodox priests. and if you think they dont exist,then you must be one of them

:p

[comawhite015]

Yeah cuz straight pedophiles simply do not exist. At all. Nope.

Even though there's like a vast majority more straight than gay people on the planet.

[kingmonkey]

What his actual words were if anybody gives a fuck (without a translation from the bbc).


Since faith in the Creator is an essential part of the Christian Credo, the
Church cannot and should not confine itself to passing on the message of
salvation alone. It has a responsibility for the created order and ought to make
this responsibility prevail, even in public. And in so doing, it ought to
safeguard not only the earth, water, and air as gifts of creation, belonging to
everyone. It ought also to protect man against the destruction of himself.
What is necessary is a kind of ecology of man, understood in the correct sense.
When the Church speaks of the nature of the human being as man and woman
and asks that this order of creation be respected, it is not the result of an
outdated metaphysic. It is a question here of faith in the Creator and of
listening to the language of creation, the devaluation of which leads to the selfdestruction
of man and therefore to the destruction of the same work of God.
That which is often expressed and understood by the term “gender”, results
finally in the self-emancipation of man from creation and from the Creator.
Man wishes to act alone and to dispose ever and exclusively of that alone
which concerns him. But in this way he is living contrary to the truth, he is
living contrary to the Spirit Creator. The tropical forests are deserving, yes, of
our protection, but man merits no less than the creature, in which there is
written a message which does not mean a contradiction of our liberty, but its
condition. The great Scholastic theologians have characterised matrimony, the
life-long bond between man and woman, as a sacrament of creation, instituted
by the Creator himself and which Christ – without modifying the message of
creation – has incorporated into the history of his covenant with mankind.
This forms part of the message that the Church must recover the witness in
favour of the Spirit Creator present in nature in its entirety and in a particular
way in the nature of man, created in the image of God. Beginning from this
perspective, it would be beneficial to read again the Encyclical Humanae
Vitae: the intention of Pope Paul VI was to defend love against sexuality as a
consumer entity, the future as opposed to the exclusive pretext of the present,
and the nature of man against its manipulation.
It doesn't specifically refer to gay people and it certainly doesn't mention transexuals as such. Some of it could apply to genetic engineering, artificial insemination, promiscuity (same sex or otherwise),changing roles of men & women in society, sheep shagging, test tube babies... It's funny how people have it in for the BBC and then when it suits them buys every word they say.

I'm not religious nor gay and don't really give a shit what the pope has to say, but to me, this is another example of the BBC manipulating events/words to suit the fascist, new labour, pro EU agenda and to bring down the church to help it along. They did the same thing under communism. I mean really, how many people would've even known what the pope said if it hadn't been splashed all over the news by the bbc?

This is just another anti gay thread, using the words of two groups of people (vatican and bbc) that would have, in another thread, both been accused of being liars and disinfo.

[comawhite015]

Now let's see how many people agree with him whilst in other threads call him a Zionist NWO pig who covertly promotes the so-called 'gay agenda'.



This is just another anti gay thread, using the words of two groups of people (vatican and bbc) that would have, in another thread, both been accused of being liars and disinfo.

Holler. *shakes hand*.

[angel wings]

[QUOTE=bensonz;688021]

Excellent post and I agree, it's no coincidence that the pope is using this speech at this specific time to mention this - the whole thing is well orchestrated and there to set ripples across the masses drawing their attention whether positive or negative. The next few months are likely to show what the point of this statement was. Also your point about the careful wording and branding are completely spot on.

Now before people label me I would like to make the following clear...

We all know that there are much more important issues to be discussed and I would have rathered he addressed one of those. I for one have no respect for the pope or what he stands for. To have such influence over millions and yet he appears to be willingly happy to let many live in poverty while he literally sits on a fortune.

Also I think its important to add that his comment is contradicted as whilst its true that gays are less likely to procreate - the same also applies to people like himself who "supposedly" choose to live a life of celebacy. If we were to all choose that route then humanity would truly come to an end.

The whole debate is one of contractions and people should not waste their time getting upset as this is the entire purpose of this "stunt".

Angel

I must also add the second contradiction which is I feel the Catholic church and homosexuality go hand in hand, there have been too many stories now to label this as a coincidence - I would actually go as far as saying that those are high up engage in homosexual practices as rituals. So once again, yes this is just a smokescreen to what is really going on behind the scenes.

[angel wings]

What his actual words were if anybody gives a fuck (without a translation from the bbc).

It doesn't specifically refer to gay people and it certainly doesn't mention transexuals as such. Some of it could apply to genetic engineering, artificial insemination, promiscuity (same sex or otherwise),changing roles of men & women in society, sheep shagging, test tube babies... It's funny how people have it in for the BBC and then when it suits them buys every word they say.

I'm not religious nor gay and don't really give a shit what the pope has to say, but to me, this is another example of the BBC manipulating events/words to suit the fascist, new labour, pro EU agenda and to bring down the church to help it along. They did the same thing under communism. I mean really, how many people would've even known what the pope said if it hadn't been splashed all over the news by the bbc?

This is just another anti gay thread, using the words of two groups of people (vatican and bbc) that would have, in another thread, both been accused of being liars and disinfo.



Good post Kingmonkey

[deafbred]

the "sin" people ... go out from "us" so that it would be plain to see that they are not of "us" they are of their own means and worldly wants and lusts... jumping on a 'bus' full of 'friends' and croc's

they wouldn't get to far if they were on an island of all gays.

the "gays" got here because of A MAN and A WOMEN becoming ONE flesh..

when two of the same sex grind together...that isn't ONE...that is DIVISION

division from god, and a hard of heart un-repentant betrayal on humanity itself

they hate themselves... i am not surprised they hate truth and who stands on that solid base of rock foundation which is christ

they fell away, into the sea and are like waves, carried about up and down singing a dizzying song twisting their eyes their ears don't want to hear

full of fear

screaming aloud - they know their going down

so defensive... i am not resisting

who is pushing?

i am just loving

if you remember what you are missing

your dissin yourself when you put you on a shelf and sold your soul for a hoe of which there is no rules

so you chose, its not me or anyone, its only you, you can do what you do,

an apple is not an orange

all the seeds died, when they weren't fertilized

common sense doesn't have to 'imply' when you lie in your lie

self denied

where are you hiding under the cover from your mother...

you should be ashamed

of hiding your light with profane

you think we are all the same

in your ways you play

in your day you will sway... sickened by your ways.. your gunna be chopped down.... what are your fruits?


i don't care what you do.. its not up to me to judge you.. you know yourself.. i don't know who you are, you are so bizzare.. you hide your star, the light that is true you.. when you shooed the truth..

your walkin in the dark

throwing darts

remember where you fallen from, from the start

your heart... your mind... debased... no foundation.. your house, your body, your temple, .. god gives you up to a debased mind to do what aught not be done... so you can serve his higher purpose to carry out your ways... so in the day of release... you will be brought to your knees.

you will kiss my feet

you will learn that the father has loved me

and not you

you are not a true jew

but a synagogue of satan


the pope sayin that stuff about homosexuality... one word... hypocrites

this worldly church they run....hiding the true son... so they can rule..in the MEAN-time..


they are so scared.... the gays are to, they know what they do... once the REAL TRUE POWER of the LORD GOD descends on the land... and shines light bright... they're gunna be runnin scared because they know they fear, punishment for what they have done in this life with their strife fight ways of disgrace

there's always still time though, even after I am gone from this wicked world and leave you all behind to think about all the lies


love casts out fear ... fear has to do with punishment. ...god doesn't want to punish any of us, god is love -

what are these people ... coveting? ... oh yeah...their sex lives of lust... the love it

a never ending feeding of un-satisfaction an empty void of choice filling it up with noise

you loved yourself more than the many...you wouldn't let it go.. all these worldly passions.. ---you want GAY MARRIAGE? .... even what you thought you had is going to be taken away. in the day. you don't make me feel guilty. its your own conscious that is seared.

why are you laughing? .... peace is not upon your heart. the waves of your pulses are motions in the oceans of the water that disrupts the stillness of harmony.

to take the body that was given you and to thrown it away on being gay is a shame and you will get what you deserve

what you served

...as for ....people who were born with sex organs of two sex's....this is to the glory of god... so that in the end all would be healed and will be revealed

i don't agree anything concerning "mortal sin" ... SIN is SIN.. doesn't matter what you do, murder, etc etc, or be gay...

there is still time to repent and wash your robes for the day of jesus christ you should want to walk in white

because then you can walk through the front gates of the eternal city and be in the glory of god's presence..

outside the gates of the city is where the dogs are.. the sexually immoral, sorcerers ...liars

people gata save themselves and take responsibility for their own lives here on earth

you can get married all you want and have a marriage certificate etc all you want

that doesn't mean you will EVER be ONE FLESH and make a baby as one by coming together..

the only way that happens is with a man and a women. that is MARRIAGE.. marriage isn't a worldly church certificate like a drivers licence

its all a joke on the controllers that control the slaves

god knows all /everyone's ways- he knows your heart, from the start, he knows what you ask before you even speak

so watch yourselves and look in the mirror

your your worst enemy

not me

not "christians" or anyone.. only YOU

we are all one, in the love of god from above, why you breaking off from the tree of life...you are an original from the root in jesus

that person next to you on the left side of your body

which way are you guiding yourself? which road are you walking, a curved road or a straight path to god.... the short road is straight, gays are taking a long way. either way.. its all going to go to the same place. judgment for what you have done and sown in the land of the world while you were allive

when you die and leave it behind.. will you like what you see? ... doesn't matter if you are gay... you can still be an extremely good person.

i don't care if your 'ego' thinks you are "gay" or not, but god cares about the real you and if you care you will prepare and change your ways because the days are getting here when his wrath is going to rage

i hate the delusion many people of this world are under

it never existed, never did, never will, the void of your choice you are wiling to fill with profane, selling your bodies energy to seductions of shame in the game you play, your ways.. they aren't TODAY... you change... because you aren't satisfied ... you need more... more more more more more

keep taking people.... even what you thought you had will be taken away from you

greedy needy .. there is only ONE joker that is laughing at you all. your gunna love him when he comes along. he's gunna sing your song. then your gunna walk the plank and it will be to late.. sad I will be.. i won't see you at the gates of grace

choice... do you love this life more than god? ....yep.. you look in the mirror, you don't like what you see.. you pierce your body and tatoo your sacred temple which hold your soul

:(

you were beautiful from the start

i love you

i cry for you

i die for you

turn around... your back is on god.. we are back to back... we are walking away from each other and the divide is getting bigger you are going out and out and outer to the darker reaches of the dreams of your stars that you see in the universe that is an illusion..

it isn't real

why do you marvel at the passion of the jackel...

i am not resisting you

so why do you threaten to arrest me

... i am a threat to you

just because of the truth

and its not my fault

so do what you do.. i smile because of the blessing

you don't know what your going to be missing

:( im on a mission and it ain't for me its for you all

so you can break loose

of this world that is passing away

stop going astray

walk the line of grace

find the gate narrowly

one step at a time

why do you meline me?

revile me?

it isn't me

its you who is resiting love from above

im sending it down while i am here on the ground

im innocent so why do you keep accusing me of being a bigot and a homophob... all these terms and words of turds

...must be your guilt

im the pill you need to quench your thirst

you want my blood

...why make this personal?

i don't care if you think your gay

there is a better way

realize TODAY

~now~ the sound, of the profound love from above that is sent from above the cloud

peace be between us - love bring us together

i hope it changes the weather

the bible has been changed so much over time and the word of god is sooooo messed up because of thieves who stole the word and substituted their own

... so... if you are gay,,,,what am I to say... maybe you will be alright... idk...i hope so... only you know you.. god judges you not me

i just want to see

why can't we be..

no fear

clear

god loves you and so do i

i want to see us all shine

im not here to fight with you

but im bringing my sword of tongue

to knock down the stolen love

[drhemp]

dont forget all the flaming pedophile protestants and orthodox priests. and if you think they dont exist,then you must be one of them

:p

Not at all, you are indeed right, there are pervs in all denominations of Christianity.

[michael christopher]

Hahaha to the guy with the thousand page rant trying to come up with a reason that homosexuality is wrong, but explain why he still loves gays.

YOU ARE SUCH A MARTYR!

[phildee3]

Not at all, you are indeed right, there are pervs in all denominations of Christianity.



...and outside of Christianity.

[runciter]

Hahaha to the guy with the thousand page rant trying to come up with a reason that homosexuality is wrong, but explain why he still loves gays.

YOU ARE SUCH A MARTYR!

if we are all interconnected, the effects of sodomy can affect the entire field.

[comawhite015]

if we are all interconnected, the effects of sodomy can affect the entire field.

If we're all interconnected, we'd need a really fucking big bed.

[kingmonkey]

if we are all interconnected, the effects of sodomy can affect the entire field.

And what are "the effects of sodomy"? Do some kind of magic butt demons escape?

[deafbred]

Hahaha to the guy with the thousand page rant trying to come up with a reason that homosexuality is wrong, but explain why he still loves gays.

YOU ARE SUCH A MARTYR!

im glad for you

[deafbred]

And what are "the effects of sodomy"? Do some kind of mgic butt demons escape?

jesus was in the mainger and the animals were poopin

[kingmonkey]

If we're all interconnected, we'd need a really fucking big bed.

Jesus, there could be some kind of big "ring around the world" fuckfest. :D

[michael christopher]

im glad for you

I have to say, you can post as much as you want about how God loves gay people and how homosexuality is unnatural, but all that you can do to show that homosexuality is unnatural is cite a corrupted multiple-thousand year source and give your own reasoning on why it's unnatural. You clearly have never known any gay couples that are truly in love, or witnessed how homosexuality in no way impedes true, constructive love. Your assumptions are based entirely out of ignorance because they have to be. I know more gay people than straight people, and I have to say that morally, there really is no difference. However, there is a big difference between highly religious people and the gays I know - the religious people tend to be bigger judgmental assholes, total hypocrites, and basically frauds. The Bible is hardly a "book of love" anyway - it contains more pure hatred and command to murder than any other book in Western civilization. I just can't believe that you really think that you are being compassionate to homosexuals when you stand on such a high pedestal judging them. It's a joke. Extend your energy in as many different directions as possible, you still contribute to the creation of a false god. People like you are a tool of the controllers, going around undermining people's insecurities instead of building them up, refusing to understand, trying to impose your own "natural" law on the world when you don't even understand nature. You probably think you're in a great spiritual place to be able to post what you posted, but I can assure you that you are just fooling yourself. Your post is a thinly-veiled insult. Straight people have gotten so used to demeaning gays that they don't even realize how nasty and condescending their attacks are.

[runciter]

And what are "the effects of sodomy"? Do some kind of magic butt demons escape?

what i know is that in nature sodomy is a means of domination, sodomized = submitted.

[comawhite015]

what i know is that in nature sodomy is a means of domination, sodomized = submitted.

Well *you've* obviously never been on top. :cool:

*waves cowboy hat*

[deafbred]

the bible says to have nothing to do with the sexually immoral


c-ya

[runciter]

Well *you've* obviously never been on top. :cool:

*waves cowboy hat*

i think that penetrating another man would be unrespectful.

[michael christopher]

the bible says to have nothing to do with the sexually immoral


c-ya

Thank God! It also says not to wear man-made fabrics or eat shellfish.

Also, you can't talk to women who are on their periods.

As for runciter...

You people put your own projections on the action of homosexuality. I think it's funny that you can't possibly think enough outside the box to realize that your stupid stereotypes are simplistic and unrepresentative of what homosexuality is actually about. The joke is on you, though.

[runciter]

You people put your own projections on the action of homosexuality. I think it's funny that you can't possibly think enough outside the box to realize that your stupid stereotypes are simplistic and unrepresentative of what homosexuality is actually about. The joke is on you, though.


i'm talking about sodomy, and i know it has to do with submission.

[comawhite015]

i'm talking about sodomy, and i know it has to do with submission.

No, it really, really doesn't.

Edit: Believe me, I know. I've had a lot of.. um.. 'sodomy'..

Fuck that's an archaic word. Can't you just say 'anal sex'?

It's like saying 'diddle' for penis and 'tatas' for breasts.

[michael christopher]

i think that penetrating another man would be unrespectful.

What about penetrating a woman?

Isn't it true that you disrespect homosexuals because you think men should not be brought down to the level of women? Most homophobia stems from an inherent sexism that is lodged very deep in the male ego. Female homophobes tend to have a strong desire to fit-in and get the approval of the males in their lives, as well. In fact, most homophobia stems from a strong, insecure urge to be respected and approved by society. After all, why the fuck else would you care what two total strangers did? Insecurity...

BTW most homophobes are gay. Deny it all you want, it's a fact of reality. The problems you see with the world are ALWAYS only the problems you see within yourself.

Sad little people, projecting your own narcissistic complexes on the rest of the world and then acting like you have an intellectual right to go around bashing total strangers. Gay people find you more repulsive than you find them, trust me.

[kingmonkey]

i think that penetrating another man would be unrespectful.

It would if he didn't want penetrating. that would be very rude :p

[comawhite015]

Can I just say? as an aside?

This is hilarious and I'm giggling like a fucken idiot :D :D

[runciter]

What about penetrating a woman?


it's how mother nature works.

[romas]

And what are "the effects of sodomy"? Do some kind of magic butt demons escape?




lol :D

No the dude in the clouds goes mad over wasted seed, need of worshippers you see ;)

[runciter]

Isn't it true that you disrespect homosexuals because you think men should not be brought down to the level of women?


i respect homosexuals, i don't respect fake-straight sodomites (there are many).

i think sodomy is unnatural, and i feel i have duty as a man to honor the feminine.

[kingmonkey]

lol :D

No the dude in the clouds goes mad over wasted seed, need of worshippers you see ;)

Ahhh... I see... Thanks for that. I thought my explanation sounded far fetched and medieval.

[runciter]

Ahhh... I see... Thanks for that. I thought my explaination sounded far fetched and medieval.

magic butt demons don't escape, they are "inserted" (take it as a metaphor, if you want).

[kingmonkey]

magic butt demons don't escape, they are "inserted" (take it as a metaphor, if you want).

Now I don't even know if you're serious or not :confused:

[runciter]

Now I don't even know if you're serious or not :confused:

both.

[comawhite015]

i respect homosexuals, i don't respect fake-straight sodomites (there are many).

i think sodomy is unnatural, and i feel i have duty as a man to honor the feminine.

Honour? By bending over and ploughing?

Nice.

[romas]

This thread delivers the funnies.

[ayomide]

I think this thread should just be closed.

To many homophobes on this forum - it's digusting!! People with no respect for themselves and others.

I agree with one of the post regarding homophobes - they are gay - Hitler hated on the Jews but he was a Jew:rolleyes:

I have encountered straight men who are comfortable with thier sexuality and they do not impose disruptive or hateful values and morals that some people here and in the world do who are against homosexuality.

The world is diverse - the Pope and his mofos clique cannot accept it - they racist, sexist and many other things - let them carry on with thier shit and let them go to hell- the same to you homophobes on this forum - don't come spew venom if you can't take a dose back - the ones that are demented are the mofos who hate on everything and anything that they feel does not fit into thier fucking straight, narrow and ''normal'' world.

Fuck all you homophobic vile slimy scums, your narrow minds and please go drown in your mofooking penile juice for all I care! Do not come here and dictate how I or any other homosexual should repent our sins by trying to save me with your demented mindset of hatred.

[comawhite015]

I love this thread. I think it should be milked for laughs for ever and ever and ever :D

[kingmonkey]

You can't close the thread! You'll be furthering the homosexual agenda. :rolleyes: ;)

[comawhite015]

You can't close the thread! You'll be furthering the homosexual agenda. :rolleyes: ;)

Yes! Keep the masses informed! There is valuable knowledge in here!

*ahem*

[michael christopher]

it's how mother nature works.

Your premise is that mother nature created sex only for the purpose of procreation. Can you prove your premise, or at least explain why you assume that your premise is correct?

No, probably not.

[runciter]

Your premise is that mother nature created sex only for the purpose of procreation.

mh? where did you read that?

[romas]

And why can't it be father nature?

[comawhite015]

mh? where did you read that?

Why else would any other form of sex be unnatural then?

And don't say something about how 'just cuz you feel that way'.. that's not a real answer.

[michael christopher]

mh? where did you read that?

If that's not your premise, then explain to me exactly how you know that mother nature intends only for vaginal intercourse or sex between men and women to occur. I mean, I assume that's your premise because that's the only premise you can have, absent of Mother Nature telepathically speaking to you.

[kingmonkey]

"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:"

Another passage of the bible that's often brushed under the carpet when there's a soapbox to be mounted (pardon the pun).

[existenz]

it's how mother nature works.

List of animals displaying homosexual behavior

List of animals displaying homosexual behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Homosexual Animals Out of the Closet

http://www.livescience.com/animals/061116_homosexual_animals.html

[runciter]

If that's not your premise, then explain to me exactly how you know that mother nature intends only for vaginal intercourse or sex between men and women to occur. I mean, I assume that's your premise because that's the only premise you can have, absent of Mother Nature telepathically speaking to you.

union of complementaries, completion.

[runciter]

Why else would any other form of sex be unnatural then?

And don't say something about how 'just cuz you feel that way'.. that's not a real answer.

because it can't realize the true purpose of life, that is the re-union of the negative and positive.

[runciter]

List of animals displaying homosexual behavior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Homosexual Animals Out of the Closet

http://www.livescience.com/animals/061116_homosexual_animals.html

there's a huge variety of behaviors in the animal world, but there is also a natural trend.

[michael christopher]

union of complementaries, completion.

Oh, that explains everything. :rolleyes:

Can you prove that a male body cannot have a female soul? Do you have any evidence to support such a fact? Do you believe that the only way that a "union" can occur is if there is a pregnancy? The questions don't end, dude, because you don't know what you're talking about. My boyfriend is pretty much a woman in terms of the way he thinks, and I'm pretty much a man. We have extremely complementary personalities and our relationship has brought both of us closer to peace and understanding. Your argument is based on one large assumption that you won't even bother trying to prove because there is no way to prove it. Homosexuality is completely natural or it wouldn't occur.

[dogsmilk]

if we are all interconnected, the effects of sodomy can affect the entire field.

Is this a 'if someone gets bummed in Brazil there's an earthquake in China' kind of thing?

i think sodomy is unnatural, and i feel i have duty as a man to honor the feminine.

Are people allowed to have oral sex? It isn't 'natural' is it?

I don't feel I have 'duty to honour the feminine' - I just can't help fancying girls and I can invent any bullshit reason I like about why that's 'better' - I wager you'd think differently if you found only boys turned you on.

[runciter]

Oh, that explains everything. :rolleyes:

Can you prove that a male body cannot have a female soul? Do you have any evidence to support such a fact? Do you believe that the only way that a "union" can occur is if there is a pregnancy? The questions don't end, dude, because you don't know what you're talking about. My boyfriend is pretty much a woman in terms of the way he thinks, and I'm pretty much a man. We have extremely complementary personalities and our relationship has brought both of us closer to peace and understanding. Your argument is based on one large assumption that you won't even bother trying to prove because there is no way to prove it. Homosexuality is completely natural or it wouldn't occur.

i'm not a dualist, i don't see a separation of body and soul, matter and consciousness.

[runciter]

Is this a 'if someone gets bummed in Brazil there's an earthquake in China' kind of thing?



Are people allowed to have oral sex? It isn't 'natural' is it?

I don't feel I have 'duty to honour the feminine' - I just can't help fancying girls and I can invent any bullshit reason I like about why that's 'better' - I wager you'd think differently if you found only boys turned you on.

i think sodomy has some psychological consequences, it alters self-perception.

[michael christopher]

i think sodomy has some psychological consequences, it alters self-perception.

Go in-depth and explain what you're talking about, your simplistic answers don't satisfy the statements you have made about homosexuality being unnatural. It alters self-perception to what end? Do you think it alters self-perception more than the openly-forced self-perception altering that goes on in public schools, in churches, on television - anywhere? Don't you believe you are trying to alter the self-perception of gays by telling them that the way they feel is unnatural? Who are you to decide what mode of self-perception is the most beneficial?

Oh, and before you go around spouting off that sodomy has psychological consequences, you might want to explain what those psychological consequences are and why they occur. People who don't know what they're talking about tend to answer with vague, short sentences. Like you.

[dogsmilk]

i think sodomy has some psychological consequences, it alters self-perception.

Well I suppose you'd find out whether or not sodomy is for you.

Why did you ignore my question about oral sex? Is it perhaps because you don't mind 'unnatural' practices you enjoy in a heterosexual stylee?

Should heterosexual couples engage in oral but avoid anal?
If so, why?

Should they avoid oral?
If so, why?

[runciter]

Go in-depth and explain what you're talking about, your simplistic answers don't satisfy the statements you have made about homosexuality being unnatural. It alters self-perception to what end? Do you think it alters self-perception more than the openly-forced self-perception altering that goes on in public schools, in churches, on television - anywhere? Don't you believe you are trying to alter the self-perception of gays by telling them that the way they feel is unnatural? Who are you to decide what mode of self-perception is the most beneficial?

Oh, and before you go around spouting off that sodomy has psychological consequences, you might want to explain what those psychological consequences are and why they occur. People who don't know what they're talking about tend to answer with vague, short sentences. Like you.


i think that being penetrated makes a man more passive also in non-sexual behaviors.

[michael christopher]

i think that being penetrated makes a man more passive also in non-sexual behaviors.

What's wrong with that? Aren't women passive? Should men be held to different standards, and if so, why and who are you to decide?

[runciter]

Well I suppose you'd find out whether or not sodomy is for you.

Why did you ignore my question about oral sex? Is it perhaps because you don't mind 'unnatural' practices you can enjoy in a heterosexual stylee?

i think fellatio is a form of domination too, but only in a symbolic way.

[runciter]

What's wrong with that? Aren't women passive? Should men be held to different standards, and if so, why and who are you to decide?

i decide nothing, i can only observe and try to understand what i see.

[dogsmilk]

i think fellatio is a form of domination too, but only in a symbolic way.

Stop making vague, meaningless statements in an effort to dodge a perfectly straight question.
Is cunnilingus "domination" too? Exactly how is it "domination"? You're making no sense. Though I guess you probably disapprove of BDSM:)

Should heterosexual couples engage in oral but avoid anal?
If so, why?

Should they avoid oral?
If so, why?

How about frottage?

[runciter]

Stop making vague, meaningless statements in an effort to dodge a perfectly straight question.
Is cunnilingus "domination" too? Exactly how is it "domination"?

Should heterosexual couples engage in oral but avoid anal?
If so, why?

Should they avoid oral?
If so, why?

i'm not yahweh, and i don't know about cunnilingus, i'm dubious.

fellatio looks like domination because of the kneeling to bigus d..

[dogsmilk]

i think that being penetrated makes a man more passive also in non-sexual behaviors.

What a stupid statement.

[runciter]

What a stupid statement.

if i were a woman i think i would prefer to avoid fellatio, in our present fallocratic world.

do you see unpleasant symbolic implications in cunnilingus, from a female point of view?

[dogsmilk]

i'm not yahweh, and i don't know about cunnilingus, i'm dubious.

fellatio looks like domination because of the kneeling to bigus d..

Who says there has to be kneeling? There's loads of workable positions. Why's kneeling necessarily "domination"? What about a 69?

See, all we're seeing here is that because you're not gay, you're more than happy to concoct a pile of irrational bullshit about why everyone should be exactly the same sexually as you. It demonstrates an inability to think outside the narrow confines of your personal preferences. That's why you're totally unable to come out with any semblance of a rational argument when we consider 'unnatural' hetero practices.

Ultimately, if two men or a man and a woman want a bit of bum fun, what gives you or anyone else the right to say they shouldn't do it?

and i don't know about cunnilingus, i'm dubious.

That creased me up. "Hmmm I dunno honey...it's not that I don't want to...I'm just a bit dubious..."

[michael christopher]

i decide nothing, i can only observe and try to understand what i see.

Bullshit, you decided that homosexuality is unnatural and that men should not be passive, but you can't give an explanation as to what made you decide that.

[runciter]

Who says there has to be kneeling? There's loads of workable positions. Why's kneeling necessarily "domination"? What about a 69?

See, all we're seeing here is that because you're not gay, you're more than happy to concoct a pile of irrational bullshit about why everyone should be exactly the same sexually as you. It demonstrates an inability to think outside the narrow confines of your personal preferences. That's why you're totally unable to come out with any semblance of a rational argument when we consider 'unnatural' hetero practices.

Ultimately, if two men or a man and a woman want a bit of bum fun, what gives you or anyone else the right to say they shouldn't do it?



That creased me up. "Hmmm I dunno honey...it's not that I don't want to...I just think it's a bit dubious..."

you don't like when someone expresses freely his point of view on the human activity called "sodomy".

[pinkfreud]

fellatio looks like domination because of the kneeling to bigus d..

huh :confused: ever heard of sexual positions? and what does oral sex have to do with domination/passiveness anyway... unless you specifically want to roleplay, indulge in s&m, or have a partner who displays dominant/passive characteristics.

[runciter]

Bullshit, you decided that homosexuality is unnatural and that men should not be passive, but you can't give an explanation as to what made you decide that.

from my point of view sodomy is inserting objects in an exit-only hole.

[dogsmilk]

if i were a woman i think i would prefer to avoid fellatio, in our present fallocratic world.

do you see unpleasant symbolic implications in cunnilingus, from a female point of view?

"fallocratic world"???!!! What does that mean??? I might show the missus that post - she'll piss herself.

No I don't see "unpleasant symbolic implications in cunnilingus". What are they?
"Sure honey, I'd love to go down on you...it's just I'm worried about what you think of the symbolic implications..."

you don't like when someone expresses freely his point of view on the human activity called "sodomy".

You are perfectly entitled to your bigoted view of sexuality. It's just it would be better if you would keep it in the closet and not flaunt it in public.

[michael christopher]

from my point of view sodomy is inserting objects in an exit-only hole.

Who deemed it the "exit-only hole" - you? This mysterious nature? God of the Bible?

You don't know what you're talking about, man.

You are perfectly entitled to your bigoted view of sexuality. It's just it would be better if you would keep it in the closet and not flaunt it in public.

Let him flaunt it all he wants. I hope all bigots are candid with how they feel about the people they degrade and place themselves as better than. That way we know who is a dumbass.

[friendship]

nice to see the cultist pope sticking up for biology.
(though the transsexuals enter the area of hermaphroditeism which occurs in nature and is opposed in itself by medical science! as is nature,so biology needs an advocate!)
:)

[runciter]

"fallocratic world"???!!! What does that mean???


a world dominated by the masculine, without any balance or harmony.

[runciter]

Who deemed it the "exit-only hole" - you? This mysterious nature? God of the Bible?

You don't know what you're talking about, man.


i consider it an exit-only hole, and i have no reason to change my point of view.

[michael christopher]

i consider it an exit-only hole, and i have no reason to change my point of view.

But you do have reason to judge others because they don't share your point of view, which is all I'm trying to get you to realize.

You go around telling other people that they are "unnatural" and your only defense is that it's your opinion? Hahaha...

Just like all the other homophobes.

[michael christopher]

nice to see the cultist pope sticking up for biology.
(though the transsexuals enter the area of hermaphroditeism which occurs in nature and is opposed in itself by medical science! as is nature,so biology needs an advocate!)
:)

Yes, God knows the Pope hasn't done enough to stick up for "biology" when it comes to homosexuality. This attack was rather out of left-field, for awhile there people started thinking the Catholic Church was going to endorse homosexuality! Although you would typically be suspicious of the Pope and anything he says, when it comes to something you find reprehensible he's definitely a credible guy! Whee!

[runciter]

But you do have reason to judge others because they don't share your point of view, which is all I'm trying to get you to realize.

You go around telling other people that they are "unnatural" and your only defense is that it's your opinion? Hahaha...

Just like all the other homophobes.

you're trying to convince me that i shouldn't express my point of view on sodomy.

[michael christopher]

you're trying to convince me that i shouldn't express my point of view on sodomy.

No, I'm trying to convince you that your point of view on sodomy is completely stupid and that you can't even explain why you have it. Express it all you want, I encourage you to identify yourself to the rest of the world as what you are. All I'm saying is, the foundation of your opinion that homosexuality is unnatural is ludicrous and you can't even bother to explain or defend why you think the anus was created by nature to be an "exit-only hole" except to say that it's just your opinion.

Duh.

[dogsmilk]

a world dominated by the masculine, without any balance or harmony.

I've never met a woman who didn't give blow jobs simply on the basis sexual inequality still exists in the world. Maybe I've been lucky, I dunno. I can report Mrs Dogsmilk declares "what the fuck is he going on about".
And why does a "masculine dominated world" make it "fallocratic" specifically? If there's no balance and harmony, should we not just stop shagging altogether until there is? Why just pick on blow jobs?

Come to think of it, you should probably disapprove of women shaving themselves, wearing make-up, wearing saucy underwear etc. Do you?

What are these "symbolic implications" of cunnilingus? I'm totally intrigued.

By the way - you haven't said if frottage or 69s are allowed.

[joe911]

wow the arguments still continue,,,,,

Why cant people just agree to disagree,, homosexuality isnt going anywhere its here to stay, no matter how many people hate it (wich is pretty strange to hate it when two people are genuinley in love like me and daniel are) we make each other happy and keep each other company so why cant other people be happy for us??? regardless of what peoples opinions are on whats right and wrong its never going to change anything so just let people love who they want to

[christuffer]

Give me homosexuals over Catholics, anyday.

[kiwimaj]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

BBC NEWS
Pope puts stress on 'gay threat'

Pope Benedict XVI has said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour is just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.

He explained that defending God's creation is not limited to saving the environment, but also protecting man from self-destruction.

The pope was delivering his end-of-year address to senior Vatican staff.

His words, later released to the media, emphasised his total rejection of gender theory.

Pope Benedict XVI warned that gender theory blurs the distinction between male and female and could thus lead to the "self-destruction" of the human race.

Gender theory explores sexual orientation, the roles assigned by society to individuals according to their gender, and how people perceive their biological identity.

Gay and transsexual groups, particularly in the United States, promote it as a key to understanding and tolerance, but the pope disagreed.

When the Roman Catholic Church defends God's Creation, "it does not only defend the earth, water and the air... but (it) also protects man from his own destruction," the pope said.

"If tropical forests deserve our protection, humankind... deserves it no less," the 81-year-old pontiff said, calling for "an ecology of the human being."

It is not "outmoded metaphysics" to urge respect for the "nature of the human being as man and woman," he told scores of prelates gathered in the Vatican's sumptuous Clementine Hall.

The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage. It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.

The pope uses his traditional end-of-year speech to offer his Christmas greetings and say a few words about what he considers the important issues of the day.

This year, Pope Benedict also deplored the tendency to depict the Catholic church's World Youth Day, which he attended in Sydney earlier this year, as mere spectacle.

He stressed that the event should not be considered a "variant of modern youth culture, as a kind of ecclesiastical rock festival with the Pope as the star," but as the fruition of a "long exterior and interior path".

what a load of BS...get their own house in order re sexually abusive priests, thats where the REAL problems lie within the catholic church..this latest load of waffle from the lead satatic, illuminati front boy is merely a diversionary tactic..away from the nonses that have invaded this nasty brainwashing, mind controlled, mafia run sumbag organisation..

If anyone holds any real trust in such a dodgy insitution such as organised religion, get out and get a life of YOUR OWN..don't allow any so called "religious" institution to take away your power...

Scum in ornamental garb BS....

[deafbred]

"if you lay down with dogs, you get up with their fleas"

[comawhite015]

i think sodomy has some psychological consequences, it alters self-perception.

Not a real answer.

i think that being penetrated makes a man more passive also in non-sexual behaviors.

Not a real answer.

i think fellatio is a form of domination too, but only in a symbolic way.

Stop using your opinion as a reasoning tool!

you're trying to convince me that i shouldn't express my point of view on sodomy.

No, I'm just trying to convince you that you're full of shit.

"if you lay down with dogs, you get up with their fleas"

What? No too-long-didn't-read poem for me to scroll past this time? Aww.

[runciter]

No, I'm trying to convince you that your point of view on sodomy is completely stupid

not only stupid, it is also bullshit and whatever you like, my tolerant gay friend.

[runciter]

By the way - you haven't said if frottage or 69s are allowed.


you're still thinking i'm yahweh, maybe you should ask a rabbi.

[comawhite015]

you're still thinking i'm yahweh, maybe you should ask a rabbi.

Are rabbis Yahweh now?

[runciter]

Stop using your opinion as a reasoning tool!


lol :)

[runciter]

Are rabbis Yahweh now?

they speak for him in his absence.

[runciter]

nice to see the cultist pope sticking up for biology.
(though the transsexuals enter the area of hermaphroditeism which occurs in nature and is opposed in itself by medical science! as is nature,so biology needs an advocate!)
:)

the pope is rumored to have a boy-toy secretary..

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2008/0804/georg_gaenswein_0403.jpg

[comawhite015]

they speak for him in his absence.

Right.

[runciter]

Right.

they aren't doing a great job, but yahweh himself was a demon imo.

[comawhite015]

By the way - you haven't said if frottage or 69s are allowed.

you're still thinking i'm yahweh, maybe you should ask a rabbi.

they aren't doing a great job, but yahweh himself was a demon imo.

Soooooo you're advocating the rules laid down by a 'demon'?

Nice.

[runciter]

Soooooo you're advocating the rules laid down by a 'demon'?

Nice.

i was joking, dogsmilk's questions make me laugh :)

[slayer of cliffracers]

The Gays are Liars. They pretend they haven't got something wrong with them even they do do.

Males produce sperm, Females produce eggs. Sperm and eggs need to come together to make offspring. To that end sexuality exists.

To have a sexuality that are incompatable with this end, is obviously disordered. It is obviously a breakdown in functioning and should be cured not embraced.

[energi]

The Gays are Liars. They pretend they haven't got something wrong with them even they do do.

Males produce sperm, Females produce eggs. Sperm and eggs need to come together to make offspring. To that end sexuality exists.

To have a sexuality that are incompatable with this end, is obviously disordered. It is obviously a breakdown in functioning and should be cured not embraced.

Everything is mind, mind is everything.

Even animals (other tha
n humans, if we follow western science) display homosexual behaviour, ie penguins.

And why should the goal of life be to reproduce/create more babies?

[energi]

If we're all interconnected, we'd need a really fucking big bed.

epic post is epic:D

[slayer of cliffracers]

Everything is mind, mind is everything.

Even animals (other tha
n humans, if we follow western science) display homosexual behaviour, ie penguins.

And why should the goal of life be to reproduce/create more babies?

And the animals have something wrong with them too. If they are genuinely Homosexual, they are equal to their human counterparts.

Not that I trust the gays not to exaggerate 'homosexuality in animals'. But I think there is probably something to it.

Why should the goal of life be the reproduce more babies? Did I ever say Life, I said Sex.

Homosexuality cannot reproduce more babies, so Homosexuality is defective since it does not function for the continuation of Life, only it's ending.

It is entirely 'natural' in the sense that all the other sexual disorders are natural. Natural in a bad way.

[existenz]

And the animals have something wrong with them too. If they are genuinely Homosexual, they are equal to their human counterparts.

Not that I trust the gays not to exaggerate 'homosexuality in animals'. But I think there is probably something to it.

Why should the goal of life be the reproduce more babies? Did I ever say Life, I said Sex.

Homosexuality cannot reproduce more babies, so Homosexuality is defective since it does not function for the continuation of Life, only it's ending.

It is entirely 'natural' in the sense that all the other sexual disorders are natural. Natural in a bad way.

There is something wrong with YOU. Not nature. Not homosexuals. But YOU.

[comawhite015]

The Gays are Liars. They pretend they haven't got something wrong with them even they do do.

Males produce sperm, Females produce eggs. Sperm and eggs need to come together to make offspring. To that end sexuality exists.

To have a sexuality that are incompatable with this end, is obviously disordered. It is obviously a breakdown in functioning and should be cured not embraced.

hahah youuu juuust waaaaait til Michael Christopher gets here to read that...

epic post is epic:D

;)

And the animals have something wrong with them too. If they are genuinely Homosexual, they are equal to their human counterparts.

Not that I trust the gays not to exaggerate 'homosexuality in animals'. But I think there is probably something to it.

Why should the goal of life be the reproduce more babies? Did I ever say Life, I said Sex.

Homosexuality cannot reproduce more babies, so Homosexuality is defective since it does not function for the continuation of Life, only it's ending.

It is entirely 'natural' in the sense that all the other sexual disorders are natural. Natural in a bad way.

Yeah, its ending.. there are SO many gays.. and we're taking over.. and we're going to swallow you up! AND THE HUMAN RACE IS GOING TO DIE OUT! because SIX BILLION human beings, of which 8/10 or 9/10 or whatever who are screwing like rabbits and producing more, is SIMPLY not ENOUGH! We need to crowd the planet MORE!

There is something wrong with YOU. Not nature. Not homosexuals. But YOU.

I'll fucking drink to that.

[energi]

Why should the goal of life be the reproduce more babies? Did I ever say Life, I said Sex.

Homosexuality cannot reproduce more babies, so Homosexuality is defective since it does not function for the continuation of Life, only it's ending.

It is entirely 'natural' in the sense that all the other sexual disorders are natural. Natural in a bad way.
First you claim that it's just about sexual acts, then you switch in the fragments of a second to preaching about how it's a matter of life and death... :confused:.

Also, how does homosexual acts "end" life, when life is an illusion (it only exists if you're conscious of it)

[slayer of cliffracers]

There is something wrong with YOU. Not nature. Not homosexuals. But YOU.


If something's functioning thwarts it's own purpose then it is defective. Very logical. Homosexuality is a form of defective sexuality.

If you wish to disagree with me, come up with an argument, don't declare there to be something wrong to me just because I am right.

[slayer of cliffracers]

First you claim that it's just about sexual acts, then you switch in the fragments of a second to preaching about how it's a matter of life and death... .

Also, how does homosexual acts "end" life, when life is an illusion (it only exists if you're conscious of it)

I never claimed it was just about sexual acts. There is unity in my argument here.

The state of bieng a homosexual is a defective one, because sexuality exists for the purposes of reproducing the species (the continuation of life in other words).


Yeah, its ending.. there are SO many gays.. and we're taking over.. and we're going to swallow you up! AND THE HUMAN RACE IS GOING TO DIE OUT! because SIX BILLION human beings, of which 8/10 or 9/10 or whatever who are screwing like rabbits and producing more, is SIMPLY not ENOUGH! We need to crowd the planet MORE!


All 6 billion human beings are not Homosexual. Something does not have to be universal in order to be defective does it?

Everyone doesn't have to have a broken leg in order that broken legs are defective.

[comawhite015]

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All 6 billion human beings are not Homosexual. Something does not have to be universal in order to be defective does it?

Everyone doesn't have to have a broken leg in order that broken legs are defective.

Oh read what I said properly and then post again.

[existenz]

If something's functioning thwarts it's own purpose then it is defective. Very logical. Homosexuality is a form of defective sexuality.

If you wish to disagree with me, come up with an argument, don't declare there to be something wrong to me just because I am right.

You don't even remember saying there is something wrong with homosexuality do you? And you don't like it when someone says there is something wrong with you? Good.

I couldn't care less about what you think. I don't have to prove you or any homophobe anything. I KNOW there is nothing wrong with it. You wanna hate? More power to ya.

/thread

[comawhite015]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ8Z0biU_Zw

Say what yall want faggots destroyed a good mans life.

Say what yall want, homophobia ended a good boy's life.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[pinkfreud]

i've said this in an earlier thread, and i'll say it here again:

i'm a bit on unsure ground as far as homosexual acts are concerned, coz i do have some beliefs about anal sex- but i also do know it's not solely associated with gay people.

what i DO know, and am dead sure about, is that love knows no gender. gender is what we have in this physical dimension, once you 'die' and get ready for another karmic lesson, your soul is merely in limbo till such time you are brought here on earth to undergo experiences and learn in a new body. during this stage, the soul has NO gender- it is not male, and it isn't female. it just is.

so this argument about homosexuality being 'wrong', heterosexuality being 'right' and bisexuality being (uh nowhere :confused:) is just pointless. i don't think your sexual preference defines you anyway, and i've known some kick ass gay guys in my lifetime i couldn't ever do without.

[comawhite015]

I was just doing some thinking and I realised.

Homophobia makes PERFECT sense.

We're smarter than most straight men, and take all of their jobs.

THEN cultivate the emancipation of their downtrodden spouses such as they are left by themselves drinking beer, wondering where it all went wrong, and then become forced to get a decent education in which their chauvanist assumptions are challenged.

I HAVE SEEN THE GAY FUTURE AND IT IS GRAND :D


<waits for people to take this too seriously>

[kingmonkey]

There's some really fucked up people on this thread. :eek:

[voodoo]

Say what yall want, homophobia ended a good boy's life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hJgDw6Fk2g

Just dont say gays dont have any power.
Look what they did to Shabbas career destroyed so he would never return.
What about freedom of speach?

[kingmonkey]

A prick like shabba ranks doesn't deserve free speech. With freedom comes responsiblity, and that goes for free speech as well.

[sunya]

Still at it you lot?


*****yawn*****


oh, and












































































Bonobos

[sunya]

Seriously though, the fact that this should remain the most trenchant prejudice in western society is astounding to me. And it's not because everyone is like runciter and associates buggery with evil OTO sex magick.

Have we really come this far to where everyone's judging eachother for preferences that exist only in their heads and in their bedrooms?

(Hint: the answer is yes. GG NWO)

[kingmonkey]

You're just proving my point. And for the record, i'm not gay. But I suppose you find that difficult to understand as well, that somebody who isn't gay doesn't think like you.

You're the one with the filthy mouth.

[runciter]

And it's not because everyone is like runciter and associates buggery with evil OTO sex magick.


and with kundalini, and with many other things i will be happy to discuss in the rant room :D

[sunya]

and with kundalini, and with many other things i will be happy to discuss in the rant room :D

I'd love to sweetie, but you'll only get horny.

[sunya]

p.s. have you ever actually considered that something like kundalini is neither good nor bad but merely powerful?

[christuffer]

The homophobia on this forum would do the Evangelical Right proud.


Too many God Channel devotees maybe.

[runciter]

p.s. have you ever actually considered that something like kundalini is neither good nor bad but merely powerful?

how is it activated?

[hirschfelder]

I can't believe this has got 20 odd pages of responses

Catholicism has always opposed homosexuality, it's not really 'news'.

The way I see it is this, people should have the right to have consensual sex with whoever they want, people should have the right to condemn people for having sex with whoever they want and people should have the right to condemn those people who condemn others for their sexual preferences

Simple

You don't need to take away Shabba Ranks' right to speak his mind, you just need to not let it bother you

But, as usual, the people will get all charged up by the rhetoric of those who feign indignance and call for fascist policies to deal with the danger of blokes who don't like queers

I bet that cuntchops Peter Tatchell is already planning a publicity stunt on the back of this

[kingmonkey]

There's a difference though between condemning others for their way of life and views and actually advocating killing them or taking away their human rights.

[belfast atheist]

i think most gay people are sound folks, its anti gays who need a life.

[sunya]

how is it activated?

Meditation, yoga, sex magick, ritualistic/hallucinogenic travel through the sephiroth, psychotherapy/zen-style shock-based annhilation of the ego, etc.

None of which is news to you I'm sure. Why bother asking?

[runciter]

Meditation, yoga, sex magick, ritualistic/hallucinogenic travel through the sephiroth, psychotherapy/zen-style shock-based annhilation of the ego, etc.

None of which is news to you I'm sure. Why bother asking?

i think "genuine" kundalini is activated through sodomy.

[comawhite015]

i think "genuine" kundalini is activated through sodomy.

I still love how you call it 'sodomy'. It's so cute :D

[runciter]

I still love how you call it 'sodomy'. It's so cute :D

it sounds better than "anal sex", to my ears :cool:

[pinkfreud]

i think "genuine" kundalini is activated through sodomy.

runciter, it would be best if you read up on kundalini before posting shit like this you're not obviously aware about.

read the kama sutra and the 4 vedas, do some yoga and then talk about the kundalini force.

[runciter]

runciter, it would be best if you read up on kundalini before posting shit like this you're not obviously aware about.

read the kama sutra and the 4 vedas, do some yoga and then talk about the kundalini force.

shit, bullshit, stupid, homophobe, bigot, and the list goes on.

[comawhite015]

it sounds better than "anal sex", to my ears :cool:

I prefer 'fucking'.

I cannot imagine saying to someone..

'Shall we engage in some SODOMY?'

'Let's fuck' has a better ring to it.

But then again, I'm vulgar. ;)

[hirschfelder]

There's a difference though between condemning others for their way of life and views and actually advocating killing them or taking away their human rights.

Is there?

Clearly there's an argument that there is, but playing devil's advocate, isn't there a case to be made for utterly unfettered freedom of speech?

People call for the death penalty in cases of child murder and other sick shit, so why can't I call for the death penalty to be used on Cardiff fans, to use a ridiculous example?

Obviously Cardiff fans wouldn't suffer as much as another minority, like gays, if there was to be an organised campaign calling for them to be assaulted or murdered, but where is the line drawn and do you trust that the line won't be shifted according to the whims of whatever political ideology is dominant at any given time?

It's a hot potato, but I think I'm with Voltaire on this one

[pinkfreud]

shit, bullshit, stupid, homophobe, bigot, and the list goes on.

i don't know about the others, but what i do know is that post you just made on the kundalini was not based on fact, knowledge and/or reason.

please don't post stuff to mislead people, and if you have something to back up what you said i'd appreciate and be grateful if you could fill me in on it.

[sunya]

runci, can we just establish right now whether we are discussing "what runci thinks", or "what there is some reasonable evidence for"

then we can continue

p.s.

runci


























ily ;)

[comawhite015]

runci, can we just establish right now whether we are discussing "what runci thinks", or "what there is some reasonable evidence for"


I've tried that. I got a lol.


Originally Posted by comawhite015

Stop using your opinion as a reasoning tool!

Originally Posted by runciter

lol :)

[sunya]

shit, bullshit, stupid, homophobe, bigot, and the list goes on.

I have no idea where this came from or what it might mean. None of it is in the Kama Sutra for sure.

[runciter]

i don't know about the others, but what i do know is that post you just made on the kundalini was not based on fact, knowledge and/or reason.

please don't post stuff to mislead people, and if you have something to back up what you said i'd appreciate and be grateful if you could fill me in on it.

so you know that i don't know what i'm talking about, but you ask me to back it up.

[runciter]

runci, can we just establish right now whether we are discussing "what runci thinks", or "what there is some reasonable evidence for"


i've done some research trying to understand what happened to me when i was a child.

[sunya]

so you know that i don't know what i'm talking about, but you ask me to back it up.

This is actually one stage removed from Socrates. Keep going my man...

[sunya]

i've done some research trying to understand what happened to me when i was a child.



Ooh, drama bomb. The stage is yours sir. You're clearly intelligent so can relate it without projecting anything negative onto the rest of us.

[runciter]

This is actually one stage removed from Socrates. Keep going my man...

i don't like when people calls my point of view "shit", i never did it to others.

[runciter]

Ooh, drama bomb. The stage is yours sir. You're clearly intelligent so can relate it without projecting anything negative onto the rest of us.

you can start with lloyd demause.

[pinkfreud]

so you know that i don't know what i'm talking about, but you ask me to back it up.


you've just shoved your foot up your own arse runciter. congratulations.

i think it would be best for everyone to not debate with you.. you bring no logic and fact to a debate, well at least not in this one.


edit: and a statement without any backing, reason and a sound understanding of things is shit. so there.

[sunya]

i don't like when people calls my point of view "shit", i never did it to others.

Scrolling back I only see the word "shit" in one of your posts.


:confused:

[comawhite015]

you've just shoved your foot up your own arse runciter. congratulations.

i think it would be best for everyone to not debate with you.. you bring no logic and fact to a debate, well at least not in this one.

*peals of hysterical laughter*

oh full marks, my love, full marks :D

[energi]

Fail Runciter is full of fail.























:p

[runciter]

Scrolling back I only see the word "shit" in one of your posts.


:confused:

look better, and try to understand the meaning of that post.

[sunya]

you can start with lloyd demause.

OK, well I don't need to read far to see that we're dealing with projection here in terms of your aggression. Whether you choose to share much with us is up to you runciter, but please don't expect an unreasonable amount of sympathy because it's clear you're at least a decade and a half away from whatever happened.

[comawhite015]

Don't tell me you hate the gay because somebody-maybe-not'sure maybe touched you in your no no place.

Or is this just a last resort argument to stir the shit?

edit: oh god why am I asking the above question..