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ban freekmasons
22-12-2008, 11:11 AM
WHAT IS A FREEMASON?

A man who joins a society which he knows nothing about.

The two authors of the book "The Hiram Key", Chris Knight and Robert Lomas, bear this statement out in an article printed in the Yorkshire Post, 11 May 1996. Please bear in mind that what you are reading herewith is not a criticism but pure fact. Both these men are Freemasons.

They write: "A compelling reason for silence amongst Masons is not so much a compulsion to adhere to their sacred vows, or a fear of macabre retribution from their fellows: it is more that they do not understand a word of the ceremonies they participate in, and their only fear is that people would laugh at the apparently pointless and silly rituals they perform...

Our biggest criticism of freemasonry is its sheer pointlessness. It does not know where it came from, no one seems to know what it is trying to achieve, and increasingly it seems improbable that it can have much of a future in a world that demands a clarity of purpose and benefit." End quote.

Had he made a thorough investigation of the beliefs and ultimate aims of this group, it is clear that, unless he was lacking in either morality or intelligence, he would never have thought of joining such an organisation.

Imagine for a moment, the man who has spent night after night of his valuable time, sitting up in bed, manual in hand, repeating the beliefs and obligations contained therein, to his long-suffering and patient wife, who obviously feels her time could be more usefully employed.

The shock must be absolutely devastating to such a man in any of the three initial degrees in the Blue Lodge when he finds out (and sometimes he never does) that all this learning was in vain as he reads the following statement from Albert Pike.1

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explanation is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry." End quote.

I would suppose that any red-blooded Mason would immediately fly into an uncontrollable rage and storm out in a search and destroy mission, on those who allowed this deception to continue.

All readers, who have taken the vows, and repeated the obligations of any of the first three degrees in the Blue Lodge, please stand in front of a mirror and repeat out loud to yourself:

"I've been taken for a ride. Was I not lacking in wisdom to join a society that I knew nothing about. To make it worse, I believed the lies they fed me. How do I get myself out of this mess?

But wait - that's not all!

During the course of his initiation, the demonic oaths, obligations, and actions, much akin to a witchcraft initiation, have such a mind-bending effect on him that, normally speaking, he will no longer be in any state to think or reason clearly, and will in most cases, still endeavour to defend those who have so cruelly deceived him.

Mind you, the sin of pride, must come into it somewhere. Who in their right mind wishes to be branded a mentally challenged individual? Possibly the words of one Mencius could apply at this stage.

"To act without clear understanding; to follow a path all one's life, without knowing where it really leads, such is the behaviour of the multitudes.

So you see that although the Freemasons' libraries contain thousands of books in such places as the Grand Lodge in Washington D.C., filled with information that only a tiny percentage of men would ever see, let alone read and digest, it is little wonder that a large percentage of them are ignorant of all these details.

2Scottish Rite Masonry tells us: "Grand Commander, Albert Pike, established the Library of the Supreme Council in 1888, when he donated his personal library of some 8,000 volumes which form the nucleus of the present collection.

"Today, the Library contains more than 175,000 volumes, all non-fiction. The collection on Freemasonry in all its branches is the most complete in the world, and comprises about one-third of all the volumes in the entire Library..." End quote.

175,000 divided by three equals 58,333. To any critics of this expose, we must ask the question how many of these books have you read?

It, therefore, has become the unfortunate task of others to inform and instruct unenlightened men who still think Freemasonry is to do with the building of hospitals, orphanages, and homes for the elderly and widows, or is merely a society which makes good men better.

Do you sincerely believe, Sir, that all those books referred to above are filled with information on building codes and regulations and instructions on how to care for the underprivileged?

On your initial visit within the Lodge walls, as you dressed down for your initiation, didn't you smell the proverbial rat?

Remember the black hoodwink, the running noose, the dagger pricking you above the heart. Remember your right hand acting as a knife drawn across your throat. You do remember don't you?

The N.S.W. Masons in Australia, of course, tell us that the following words have been added after the traditional oath. No doubt this was done to make the witchcraft oath more palatable.

"This was the penalty of this obligation in ancient times. We neither could, nor would, improve them, but rely instead on the moral obligation attached to this vow..." End quote.

'Gobble de gook' is the relevant comment in this case.

I feel at this stage to point out to any Freemason reading this section, to do as this author did. (Please refrain from flying into an uncontrollable rage, which by the way, is a significant feature of the movement, but thoughtfully exercise your God-given intellect.)

Find yourself a copy of an 861 page book called "Morals and Dogma", written by the Masonic authority, Albert Pike, and check the information that you are now reading.

How do you feel as you read this further statement by Albert Pike on page 104 in this same book?

3"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism, and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts, and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretation of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled, to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it.

....So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray." End quote.

This being true, the candidate is led away from Jesus Christ who proclaimed himself to be the 'Light of the World'. This is not only serious but also blasphemous!

William Schnoebelen in his very clear book "Masonry, Beyond the Light", has a heading which reads, "Welcome to the World's Largest Coven".

To Sum Up

It has now been revealed to you that:

a) you were not wise to join a society that you knew nothing about;
b) the vast majority of the information you learned was full of lies and deceit;
c) if you remain a moment longer in the Lodge, you become more unwise than you were when you joined;
d) it becomes progressively worse as you ascend the various degrees culminating in the shocking revelation that the god of Freemasonry is Satan, known in the Bible as Lucifer!

4"The theological dogma of Albert Pike is explained in the Instructions issued by him, on July 14, 1889, to the 23 Supreme Councils of the world and have been recorded by A.C. De La Rive in La Femme et l'Enfant dans La Franc - Maconnerie Universelle (page 588) from which book we translate and quote as follows:

"That which we must say to the crowd is - we worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition.

"To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.

"If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (The God of the Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priest, calumniate him?

"Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.

"In analogical and universal dynamics one can only lean on that which will resist. Thus the universe is balanced by two forces which maintain its equilibrium: the force of attraction and that of repulsion. These two forces exist in physics, philosophy and religion....

"Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil." End quote.

Take a tip from a friend, you had better leave this organisation immediately.

"Why?" you ask.

Whilst writing this chapter, I have sought to remain calm and unemotional. We are dealing with an incredible deception here.

It must also be recognised that my reader's final destiny could well be determined by what is written on these pages.

1. The problem commences with the Entered Apprentice Degree - 1st Degree. The Tyler presents the candidate to the Master, who then asks, "Whom have you there?"

The Tyler replies, "A poor candidate in a state of darkness" .

The implication is quite clear - this means 'spiritual darkness'. Freemasonry can therefore be described as a journey towards, and constantly seeking for - Light.

2. It now becomes clear to us that no born-again, committed, believer to our Lord Jesus Christ, could ever continue on beyond this point.

Religious people - yes.

Relationship people - no.

You see, we know and understand clearly that:

a) God is light.

b) Jesus said " I am the light of the world. He that followeth me shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life." 5

Excuse me - do I correctly presume that you skipped over these vital statements found in God's Word'?

Would you please stop right here. Go back and read them thoroughly - preferably out aloud. Thank you!

A Baffling Question

How can seemingly intelligent men, from all walks of life, including ministers and religious leaders responsible for the spiritual welfare of others, belong to a society, many of whose leaders state quite openly, "Lucifer is God"?.

I've found the answer!

1. Remember exactly what Albert Pike said. "The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil."

2.6Texe Marrs tells us "Indeed I frequently hear from hardened New Agers, witches, druids, and other occultists, who doggedly insist that their hellish master, Lucifer, is a god of good and not evil.

It is a fascinating fact that higher-level Masons and Illuminists also profess that their great deity is the glorious and radiant "Father of Light", giver of good things. He's definitely not the devil." End quote.

3. We further learn that "Today, the Illuminati continue to believe in two principles, Satan and Lucifer. Satan is the evil one, Lucifer is the good side of the Force.

...Part of the benevolence done by Satanic organisations and Satanists is part of their belief system to maintain a balance within their lives of the dual principles.

These good works are not entirely done to deceive (such as Freemasonry with their Schriner's Hospitals.)

In contrast to this, Jesus Christ told the gnostic religious leaders of His day that evil would be judged by God, and that all the good deeds of men are but filthy rags." End quote.

Albert Pike makes it very clear. He says "Lucifer is 'god of light' " and warns Masons, 'doubt it not'.

4. Here is the main part of the reason for this massive diabolical deception.

The authoritative King James Bible inserts the key word
"Lucifer" into this passage.

"How art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer son of the morning."

The vast majority of modern translations however omit the word 'Lucifer' and herein lies the problem.

Let me show you by way of proof.

The Emphasised Bible - "Oh Shining One, Son of the Dawn."
American Standard Version - "Oh daystar".
Jerusalem Bible - "Daystar, son of the dawn".
Amplified Bible - "O light bringer and day-star, son of the morning."
New English Bible - "Bright, morning star".

An Important Question

How can we prove that this being Lucifer is Satan and not the God of Light?

Easy - open up your King James Bible at Isaiah 14:12-15.

Verse 12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. How art thou cut down to the ground which did weaken the nations." 8

Explanation - the true and living God never fell from heaven. The true and living God was not cut down to the ground nor did He ever weaken the nations.

Verse 13 - "For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven."

Explanation - What for? If he is already God, he lives in heaven!

"I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. I will sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north."

Explanation - Hey, this is God's throne-room he's talking about here. This guy is obviously not God. He's a usurper!

Wait - he hasn't finished yet.

Verse 14 - "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds. I will be like the most High."

Explanation - If he was truly God, he would be looking down not up. He wouldn't need to ascend above the clouds as he would already be there. A further sign of his intention is revealed in that he, a created being, has plans to take over from his Creator.

He has to be joking!

Verse 15 - "Yet, thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

Explanation - All Freemasons, occultists, New Agers, and witches, please take note of where your god is going to end up.

Read on at your leisure. Verses 16 & 17 tell us that Lucifer, the Freemasons' god, the devil behind the New World Order, will be seen for what he is - a loser.

Do you wish to follow a loser and to finish a loser? Then ignore this information.

Who is this Albert Pike? Are his statements reliable? The 'Scottish Rite Journal', November 1992 includes an article by the Grand Commander....

Albert Pike - Debit or Credit?

Quote..."I recently heard an outspoken Scottish Rite Brother refer to Albert Pike as a debit to our order. Pike, he asserted, in no way benefits the contemporary Scottish Rite. In contrast, Pike's epic work , Morals and Dogma, he thinks, weakens our every Masonic action and causes members to leave our ranks..." End quote. (Emphasis added).

The Grand Commander later on says: "It must be understood that Morals and Dogma, is an expression of Pike's personal opinions. The book does not represent official Scottish Rite philosophy.

...The Ancient and accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching, and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term." End quote.

But wait, later on in the article he says: "Pike's great work is not the book of an hour, a decade or a century. It is a book for all time...

Abandon Morals and Dogma? Never! The book disclaimed is often the most usefull after all..." End quote. (Emphasis added.)

What do you make of this type of reasoning? He appears to be telling us that in Freemasonry you can believe what you choose. If this be the case, why bother joining? I believe what I choose to believe and I'm not a Mason.

Could the uncertainty and ignorance of their beliefs be one of the reasons why Masons get so angry when they are challenged?

They apparently enjoy going to the Lodge, but very few of them wish to understand what they are involved in.

If you wish to be a winner in this race of life, MAKE A CLEAN CUT and from now on, serve the God who deserves to be served. The true and living God, and His son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

It is written, "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are, to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness." 9

"For what shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"10

Footnotes


1 Morals and Dogma; Albert Pike; page 819.

2 A Presentation 1990 - Presenting the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry; page 42; House of the Temple, 1733 Sixteenth St., N.W. Washington D.C. 20009-3199, U.S.A.

3 Morals and Dogma; Albert Pike; page 104.

4 Occult Theocracy; Lady Queenborough; pages 220-221.

5 John 8:12; The Holy Bible.

6 Flashpoint; January 1996; Living Truth Ministries, 1708 Patterson Rd, Austin, Texas 78733, U.S.A.

7 The Duality of Good and Evil by Fritz Springmeier; Endure to the End; volume 2, Issue 6; 1327 9th Ave S.E. Olympia, Wa 98501, U.S.A.

8 Isaiah 14:I2;The Holy Bible.

9 Romans 6:16; The Holy Bible.

10 Mark 8:36; The Holy Bible.




Special Note to all Masons

This book is in no way to be considered as a personal attack on individuals. This author has access to vast amounts of information which is non-accessible to the majority of people. However, consider this - if the hierarchy of your society makes outrageous statements in writing, it is only right and proper that you should be made aware of these statements and act accordingly.
By now, the reader will have gathered that this whole book has been written from the perspective of a twice-born, Bible-believing Christian. Therefore, it immediately becomes clear that any reader who has doubts regarding the final authority of God's Word, the Bible, will struggle with some of the material found herewith. So be it!! Facts remain as they always have - facts.
1. The Freemasons started well - a male club, or fraternity of, in the main, stonemasons.
2. Their social work is commendable however, so also is the work of other groups such as the Salvation Army (who thankfully do not utter blood-curdling oaths and obligations.)
3. The Freemason's Lodges were infiltrated by persons involved in the curious arts, occult practises and Luciferianism, as their own writings make clear.
4. These esoteric aspects are not openly discussed in the Blue Lodges so these men remain in ignorance.

Source....... http://www.caterpillar.org.uk/warning/fmasonry.htm

boots
22-12-2008, 11:16 AM
I wonder if mason's will ever admit that their organization has been infiltrated.


IT WILL GO ALONG WAY IN CLEARING THE AIR.


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lightindarkness
22-12-2008, 08:50 PM
I wonder if mason's will ever admit that their organization has been infiltrated.


IT WILL GO ALONG WAY IN CLEARING THE AIR.


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Yep, I sure will as soon as you admit your a Illuminati/NWO disinformation agent.

boots
23-12-2008, 12:50 AM
Yep, I sure will as soon as you admit your a Illuminati/NWO disinformation agent.


SO you duck the question with a pathetic statement like that.

Since you have chosen to subscribe to this thread by your post. Then give me answer. Do you think the masons have been infiltrated??

If you do not provide a answer, then that shows how gutless you are.

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lightindarkness
23-12-2008, 03:12 AM
SO you duck the question with a pathetic statement like that.

Since you have chosen to subscribe to this thread by your post. Then give me answer. Do you think the masons have been infiltrated??

If you do not provide a answer, then that shows how gutless you are.

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Nope, not ducking at all, its quite clear.

If you want me to admit to something that is not true, I want you to admit to something that is not true too.

So, when you confess to your role as a NWO/Illuminati disinformation agent, I will confess that the Illuminati have infiltrated freemasonry and are using me as a puppet to microchip children.

I know the masons have not been infiltrated - there is nothing to infiltrate. There is no "value" to controlling a group that is so decentralized and powerless.

boots
23-12-2008, 06:21 AM
Nope, not ducking at all, its quite clear.

If you want me to admit to something that is not true, I want you to admit to something that is not true too.

So, when you confess to your role as a NWO/Illuminati disinformation agent, I will confess that the Illuminati have infiltrated freemasonry and are using me as a puppet to microchip children.

Gutless wonder:rolleyes: They using you as a puppet.

I know the masons have not been infiltrated - there is nothing to infiltrate. There is no "value" to controlling a group that is so decentralized and powerless.

There is nothing to infiltrate. LOL. Well that's not looking at it with an objective mind especially when you have a lot officials who hold positions of power who are freemasons..... That topic has been extensively covered in this sub forum.
You might see the average mason who has sold his soul by joining a control system which has no value in individuality and has rituals that are mind control physcology ( tying a noose around someone who is blindfolded then allowing the controller symbolic power over them, of life and death) and then saying it is decentralized, when clearly it has levels of degrees which automatically sets up a US and Them system. But Noooo:rolleyes: the PTB wouldn't use that would they.:rolleyes:

As Bush senior said in a speech. We need a NWO, as it has been shown since that speech it's not one of peace on earth, infact it is just the opposite. More bigger and larger wars. That's your NWO buddy.

So YES the masons have been infiltrated by TPTB and for a very long time.

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grandsecretary
23-12-2008, 01:31 PM
I wonder if mason's will ever admit that their organization has been infiltrated.


IT WILL GO ALONG WAY IN CLEARING THE AIR.


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Oh, far worse than infiltration. An enforced takeover.

This appears on our website: http://www.grandlodgeofallengland.org

"Preston is decidedly more full and clear than Anderson, although both wrote in the interests of the London Grand Lodge, yet not with the same bias of feeling. Anderson was one of the originators of the London Grand Lodge, and as a man of strong prejudices he was biased in all his inditings, evidences of which are seen throughout his two publications on every possible occasion, in the omission of historical facts, or giving the contrary construction to, and diverting attention in cases reflecting unfavourably upon the New Grand Lodge. The Books of Anderson, however, are almost universally accepted by the Masonic fraternity as containing a true history of Freemasonry, at least from the time our review commences, and the Ancient Charges, especially those contained in the 1723 edition, are as generally adopted as the fundamental law and basis of Masonic principles. But notwithstanding Anderson's Books of Constitutions were published by order of the London Grand Lodge, with its approval and sanction, yet no more untrustworthy, unreliable books were ever printed under the direction of any organised association. We affirm that Anderson is not to be credited. The Books of Constitutions were written purposely to deceive, to mislead and misrepresent facts as they existed; and if his reports of Grand Lodge Proceedings are true copies of Grand Lodge Records, then the records were corrupted with the design to mislead the reader." (SOURCE: Freemasonry in England from 1567 to 1813, Ancient York and London Grand Lodges , pages 15 and 16, by Leon Hyneman, 1871)

What happened in 1723, 1738, 1813 was far worse than what you call "infiltration" and it is not fair to suggest that all Masons accept it. We do not.

slayer of cliffracers
23-12-2008, 01:58 PM
These good works are not entirely done to deceive (such as Freemasonry with their Schriner's Hospitals.)

In contrast to this, Jesus Christ told the gnostic religious leaders of His day that evil would be judged by God, and that all the good deeds of men are but filthy rags." End quote.


There were no Gnostics before Jesus Christ, since Gnosticism is a branch of Christianity.

And he never taught that all the good deeds of men are but filthy rags but gave them ultimate value. You confuse Jesus with what the scum that call themselves his followers would invent as Christianity.

disconnex
23-12-2008, 05:47 PM
If you take christianity for what it was before it was made to be what it is today, christ said nothing, you are christ, your own king. Christ's words were that of allagorical teachings to giude you on the path of enlightenment. Why do we use modern religion in debate anyway?

jfskeezix
09-08-2009, 08:12 PM
WHAT IS A FREEMASON?

William Schnoebelen in his very clear book "Masonry, Beyond the Light", has a heading which reads, "Welcome to the World's Largest Coven".

To Sum Up

It has now been revealed to you that:

a) you were not wise to join a society that you knew nothing about;
b) the vast majority of the information you learned was full of lies and deceit;
c) if you remain a moment longer in the Lodge, you become more unwise than you were when you joined;
d) it becomes progressively worse as you ascend the various degrees culminating in the shocking revelation that the god of Freemasonry is Satan, known in the Bible as Lucifer!

Source....... http://www.caterpillar.org.uk/warning/fmasonry.htm

Great education by Bill Schnoebelen!

Learn everything about masonry from someone who climbed up into the highest degrees of freemasonry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV4JP1ohnow

or the whole video at once:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2748614967389038944

turquoisefire777
09-08-2009, 08:28 PM
freemasons are slaves of the demons, they are vessels for sucking energy, and amplifying negative energy. simple as.

keystone
09-08-2009, 08:48 PM
freemasons are slaves of the demons, they are vessels for sucking energy, and amplifying negative energy. simple as.Thats interesting. Do you have something to support these claims?

Cheers

turquoisefire777
09-08-2009, 08:56 PM
Thats interesting. Do you have something to support these claims?

Cheers

don't mind me. i just make stuff up when i'm bored.

keystone
09-08-2009, 09:30 PM
don't mind me. i just make stuff up when i'm bored.

Oh I see - so you could substitute:

politician

boy scout

conspiracy theorist

bus driver

or whatever?

in the sentence? I wasn't having a pop BTW - it was a genuine question to test the premise. :)

Cheers

turquoisefire777
09-08-2009, 10:04 PM
Oh I see - so you could substitute:

politician

boy scout

conspiracy theorist

bus driver

or whatever?

:)

Cheers

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64605

triso
09-08-2009, 11:12 PM
I asked a friend of mine.. What do you know about the freemasons.. He said "They were created to protect the queen" I have family in the freemasons... they wont talk about it.

keystone
09-08-2009, 11:14 PM
He said "They were created to protect the queen"First I've heard of it. :D

I have family in the freemasons... they wont talk about it.Pity! - they should and they have absolutely no reason not too.

Cheers

keystone
09-08-2009, 11:19 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64605Mmm - missed that whilst I was away from here. I'll read it through during the week as it seems to be quite a long thread.

Cheers

organizedchaos
10-08-2009, 12:41 AM
If you take christianity for what it was before it was made to be what it is today, christ said nothing, you are christ, your own king. Christ's words were that of allagorical teachings to giude you on the path of enlightenment. Why do we use modern religion in debate anyway?

This is not necessarily what he was saying. Now Gnosticism claims the more "spiritual" element - the allegorical approach - as the guiding principle: "you are your own Christ, the Son of God ... " and more. The debate has always been, did Satan influence the Gnostic Gospels with his own institutionalized mysticism, creating a hybrid religion; or did the Gnostic Gospels truly represent Christ's teachings by excluding religious-based organizations/churches; thus, trying to eliminate the group power aspect, in which teachings can be twisted to create power, sustain power, and mislead people into darkness.

Let's consider the New Testament Gospels:

The storytelling differs in each of the four Gospels, in significant, though sometimes subtle, ways. Why? Lineage is excluded and different in two of the Gospels. If it served the author's purpose, they included lineage information - and if a specific lineage addressed a concern of the author's audience, they altered the lineage. Even the emphasis placed on blame - who is really to blame for Jesus' crucifixion - is assigned in varying degrees to Judas Iscariot, the Jews, the Establishment, the Roman Empire, etc. How does each Gospel portray immaculate conception, the resurrection, Satan, etc.? It is obvious that each author's audiences consisted of different demographics; thus, they changed insignificant elements in order to make the main substance of the story more appealing. The idea of "contempt prior to investigation" is circumvented by this process. Ingenious method, actually.

And while this ingenious method managed to include more people, or all people, in Jesus' message and teachings, it has been the fatal flaw. Due to certain ambiguities and differences in information, individuals can pick and choose what they want to cite as evidence for a specific claim. Interpretation, alone, is hard enough, but when critical information differs from one book to another, it creates a real problem for thinking people. This is where the "blind faith" emphasis is supposed to address these inconsistencies and contradictory, sometimes missing statements from one Gospel to another. And, then, BOOM!: we get to decide if the Gnostic Gospels are more accurate, or better aligned, with Jesus' teachings and Spirit. Talk about chasing one's tail. All the experts tend to disagree on important elements, so it's not like antiquity is more discernible today than it was yesterday. Major the insignificant factors, perhaps - but the really important questions? Not so much.

I have a hard time believing that Jesus, or the characterization provided on him, would have accepted the Vatican Church as a true representation of His Teachings, but we've been forced to rely on the Vatican's monopoly of Christianity's histories. Do they suppress important information and doctrines that run contrary to their goal of religious credibility, authority, and power? Very plausible to assume so, just if we look at the Vatican's history. Then you have organizations like the Masons who claim a Christian foundation, but upon closer inspection, at the very least, it is fraternal order that relies heavily on mysticism, esoteric traditions, and questionable symbolism. And, hey, if you don't believe any of this hooey, check out some of their previous and current members, of the highest ranks. Pike and Crowley are just two of the most disturbing members that come immediately to mind, but there are many more. I don't doubt that the lower levels are, to some extent, unaware of the implications of their actions - on a spiritual level - and, I would think, the fact that charity is involved creates a balancing effect within one's perception of participation: "If we are so bad and evil, why do we do (insert charitable action)?" Complex.

The NWO has been here for a long time. And though I believe many technological advances have helped the NWO Movement, I do believe that these same advances have also helped ordinary people become aware of its existence.

Lightgiver, No ... I don't believe in Reptilian Overlords. Heh.

keystone
10-08-2009, 12:45 AM
Great education by Bill Schnoebelen! Learn everything about masonry from someone who climbed up into the highest degrees of freemasonry.BS by BS. He's full of it. Isn't it obvious? - Apparently he's climbed up into the highest levels of everything.

Cheers

triso
10-08-2009, 06:46 PM
First I've heard of it. :D

Pity! - they should and they have absolutely no reason not too.

Cheers

I'm not close to that part of the family anymore.. if i was, i would ask them a billion questions to be honest.

noewhan
04-06-2010, 12:31 PM
Here's just a random site I found while google searching for triangular objects.

http://www.stmarys1287.org/historical_memrobilia.htm

kadosh
04-06-2010, 10:58 PM
http://www.freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/freemasonry-in-general/what-is-a-freemason/