FREEMASONS - Last Line of Defense for Humanity?

[raptorialis]

Since my last post calling for the drawing up of a list of all Free Masons, I have received information which contradicts my original stance. In fact, this information is so compelling that it has caused me to create a second post.

Basically it reveals that when the balance of power tips beyond a certain point that the tip of the human pyramid will either fall off and topple to the ground, obliterating all those inside in positions of power. Or the tip of the pyramid will begin to hover in the air and drop nuclear devices on the rest of humanity destroying everyone, but those at the very top.

In the latter scenario, the pyramid will survive, but it will be full of the most capable of creatures. The vast number of weaklings and morons will be gone.

The latter scenario is what the Illuminati have planed to happen.

The rats in the fat cat organizations are currently desperately climbing the power pyramid, in the hope of reaching safety near the top.

Whilst it is true that there are masons at the top, the vast majority could be construed as being at the middle tier of the pyramid.

With the vast majority of citizens underpinning the masons and the upper pyramid, our only hope in ensuring that the top of the pyramid fails is to join forces with those on the next power layer up.

THE MASONS

It is all becoming clear now. Power is split between the Illuminati on one hand and the Masons on the other.

The question is who to join forces with.

The common man must join forces with the Masons.

They are the last line of defense. It will not serve us well to try to undermine them.

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[stewart edwards]

Raptorialis I agree with your thread title but not your analysisThe rats in the fat cat organizations are currently desperately climbing the power pyramid, in the hope of reaching safety near the top.More fool them then. We all die we all get judged for our actions in life, there is no escaping it.

Power is split between the Illuminati on one hand and the Masons on the other.A mason who is True will have no real interest in holding power, for seeking power is a sure route to reintroducing roughness to your ashlar. Though a True mason will be well equipped to deal with the darker side of power.

The question is who to join forces with.I would recommend not worrying about who to join, and just focus on being the best person you can be. Be true to yourself. Be true of voice and true of heart and you will be just fine. Yes poop happens in the world outwith your immediate control, but ultimately you will come out on top.

They are the last line of defense. It will not serve us well to try to undermine them.Now this I do agre with. Let me explain why. The human race is in a state of turnmoil just now. Our planet is coming together and the West wants to hold its power, the East wants it and has the numbers to get it, while the developing world still doesnt have clean water. The old systems are fracturing under twenty first century pressures and many people are a bit lost. Religions, families and indeed Masonry are not as effective as they once were at guiding and supporting. Lots of what David Icke may call "Starchildren" are being born very lost (I would call these old reincarnated souls here to help humanity at its time of great need) and need some help in finding their way. Most institutions and certainly the New Age have proven themselves not to be up to the job on the whole. Freemasonry, for all of its failings, has a framework in place that can work. Pity that it all to often seems to be failing nowadays. But if Freemaosns can reinvigourate Freemaonry, and I am talking about things like closing the say-do gap re the tenets etc, then it will help a lot more people navigate their way through life. Due to its structures, if it can make itself more relevant to the twenty first century while keeping its essence, it could well be the last line of defence for humanity in the eternal struggles of light and darkness. Sadly though I dont think that it really wants the job, being more concerned about what time the bar opens and who gets what honour. Apologies to those masons lodges and fraternities that are working jolly hard.

[raptorialis]

Yea, reckon Freemasons are the last line of defence. I don't see to many other groups out there.

Apart from one!

Maybe these people are even more powerful.

In fact come to think of it these guys are the ones that could topple the whole Illuminati regime all together.

You want to know who they are?

Get on your knees and beg fuckers!

[kenny_bubb]

er, the A-Team?

[marpat]

Yea, reckon Freemasons are the last line of defence. I don't see to many other groups out there.

Apart from one!

Maybe these people are even more powerful.

In fact come to think of it these guys are the ones that could topple the whole Illuminati regime all together.

You want to know who they are?

Get on your knees and beg fuckers!


ha ha, are you serious?

[disconnex]

Yea, reckon Freemasons are the last line of defence. I don't see to many other groups out there.

Apart from one!

Maybe these people are even more powerful.

In fact come to think of it these guys are the ones that could topple the whole Illuminati regime all together.

You want to know who they are?

Get on your knees and beg fuckers!

What would make you think that you really know anything about which group is powerful and which group isn't? Face it, everything you know, you've been allowed to know. You've gathered information that was released because it has no real pertinance anymore. Focus on what's been given to you because you'l find the real answers there, that's rediculous. That's like watching Blackstone the magician and saying, ahhh I know how he did that.

[eppyone]

What would make you think that you really know anything about which group is powerful and which group isn't?

I've been wanting to ask you the same question...

[disconnex]

I've been wanting to ask you the same question...

I don't know anymore than the next. Just feeding for fun debate.

[lightindarkness]

I know this post is sarcasm, but least any lurkers think otherwise I must tell you that you are going to extremes here. Freemasonry IS NOT the last defense of humanity, neither is freemasonry some evil diabolical organization plotting world domination (as most believe here).

It has much less power than you give it. If freemasonry had 1/10th the power that the anti-masons (on the negative side) or you (on the positive side) had it would not resemble the organization it is today.

The truth is that it is a simple fraternity, based on a set of very good principles and values that it communicates to its members (although such values and principles are not exclusively masonic), which seeks to explore esoteric philosophy and do a bit of charity on the side. It has no great amount of power, for good or evil. Most lodges may be growing but we can still barely afford to maintain our own lodge buildings, much less take over the world or defend the world from some evil diabolical group.

If you choose to believe in some arch-evil that plots covertly to rule the world, that is your choice. I do not believe in such things. But in any case, however you wish to array the sides of good and evil for this universal war you wish to believe in, freemasonry does not have a part in it anymore than the Elks or the Rotary club does.

[barney_rubble]

If you choose to believe in some arch-evil that plots covertly to rule the world, that is your choice [but] freemasonry does not have a part in it anymore than the Elks or the Rotary club does.

[Edited for succinctness]

Do not get me started on the Elks!

[lightindarkness]

[Edited for succinctness]

Do not get me started on the Elks!

The Elks are really the Illuminati in disguise, aren't they! I KNEW IT! :D

[barney_rubble]

The Elks are really the Illuminati in disguise, aren't they! I KNEW IT! :D

No but they are a rip-off of the "Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes"

[lightindarkness]

No but they are a rip-off of the "Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes"

Surely the "Loyal Order of the Water Buffaloes" is a NWO plot though?

[barney_rubble]

Surely the "Loyal Order of the Water Buffaloes" is a NWO plot though?
ssshhhhhhhh

[raptorialis]

Freemasonry is a biological model as is every organism in life.

Look at a company. A company is full of biological organizations.

It has people,
it has processes, designed using biological structures.
It has products that are thousands of ingredients modeled around biological attributes and the company brand itself is a living breathing image which is meant to reflect the heartbeat, beliefs and consciousness of the customers desires.

In fact every state of our world is biological.
Everything is reflection of the human condition.
And the human condition, a reflection of the nature of God.

When something gets hot, it expands and becomes more volatile.
When something gets cold, it tends to contract and drawn in.
When something is threatened it tends to change posture into a war like state.

The freemasons may well appear docile now, but i can assure you that they are like a sleeping serpant. Provoke hundreds of thousands of these groups around the world and they will bite so hard from the inside that this so called Illuminati will have to retreat back into their hole.

All i am saying is that another form of freemasonary exists now. These people exist in supreme form and when the chips are down. They can be activated very quickly.

[disconnex]

The truth is that it is a simple fraternity, based on a set of very good principles and values that it communicates to its members (although such values and principles are not exclusively masonic), which seeks to explore esoteric philosophy and do a bit of charity on the side. It has no great amount of power, for good or evil. Most lodges may be growing but we can still barely afford to maintain our own lodge buildings, much less take over the world or defend the world from some evil diabolical group.

I know alot of churches that can barely repair their roofs, fix their pews, or purchase new literature. And I also believe that many religions, in the name of God, have a good set of principles. I also recall though millions of people dying in this world in the name of God and in the pursuit to spread certain principles to the next group. I've never seen a single church step up and take claim for the lives lost in the name of God? Now, do I believe that a single freemason on here is going to sit at their keyboard and type "We are truely evil, you have been right all along", not in a million years. What you don't know wont hurt you.

[lightindarkness]

I know alot of churches that can barely repair their roofs, fix their pews, or purchase new literature. And I also believe that many religions, in the name of God, have a good set of principles. I also recall though millions of people dying in this world in the name of God and in the pursuit to spread certain principles to the next group. I've never seen a single church step up and take claim for the lives lost in the name of God? Now, do I believe that a single freemason on here is going to sit at their keyboard and type "We are truely evil, you have been right all along", not in a million years. What you don't know wont hurt you.

I am so glad you brought this up - this is perhaps one of the biggest lies the anti-religion movement tries to push.

No one dies in the name of God. Ever. Religion is incapable of killing anyone. It is simply a institution - like all other institutions that society has. Men and women in pursuit of power have abused and used the institution of religion to gain power, but religion itself is amoral, neither good nor evil. Religion is incapable of doing anything. Churches don't step up and take responsibility for it because they are not responsible for it.

Unfortunately freemasonry is not a religion so there is no parallel. It is however a social institution, as all secular organizations are. But there is no example or case where freemasonry has been used in history for evil, and if you could by chance find one it would, like the anti-religion argument, be mute. Unfortunately you won't find one - and, quite to the contrary - freemasonry is persecuted in the name of religion and by dictators and tyrannous governments fearful of concepts of liberty and equality since it was formed.

[disconnex]

No one dies in the name of God. Ever. Religion is incapable of killing anyone. It is simply a institution - like all other institutions that society has. Men and women in pursuit of power have abused and used the institution of religion to gain power, but religion itself is amoral, neither good nor evil. Religion is incapable of doing anything. Churches don't step up and take responsibility for it because they are not responsible for it.


You took the words right out of my mouth. No freemason has ever plotted a diabolical takeover of the world, only people in the pursuit of power have abused and used the... ahem ... fraternity of freemasons to gain power, but ... ahem ... the freemasons themselves are amoral, niehter good nor evil. No ... ahem... freemason lodge will ever take responsibility for it because they are not responsible for it.

You see, you are regurgitating exactly what you've been told to say, maybe in not so many words, but do you see how even the simplest and best intended organizations can be corrupted by power and greed? The United States Govt. is supposed to be this great free democrocy for the people and by the people. I guess all those fat pocket lobbyest have no say in a congressmans vote? No why would they, could they be in the pursuit of power? Could they be greedy? And could that work it's way through all branches of what is supposed to be free and fair?