A Crystal Child Speaks Out

[piratecooper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg

[piratecooper]

David Icke should watch this...

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg

Very insightful , thankyou for this thread .
A bit boring at the beginning as i nearly clicked out of it , but i kept listening and im glad i did .:cool:

[matmantra]

I'm watching it right now. Pretty long video. What exactly is Project Camelot as I see that term a lot online.

[viginti tres]

That girl is beautiful.

I've had so many experiences like hers, that resonated with me heaps...

Thanks.

[piratecooper]

Welcome to Project Camelot

• Our purpose is to provide a vehicle for researchers and whistleblowers to get their stories out.
• We produce in-depth video interviews, made available free of charge. We also present written analyses and other research. Click here for links to all our material.
• Increasingly, we've been receiving standalone messages (on or off record) from inside sources, some of which which will be presented on the page below.
• Our focus includes but is not limited to the following: extraterrestrial visitation and contact, time travel, mind control, classified advanced technology, free energy, possible coming earth changes, and revealing plans that exist to control the human race. Click here for more about our mission.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/index.html


Big thumbs up to the Video!!! Must watch the whole thing!
:D

[vladmir]

quitefascinating, thanks for posting, im on 8mins 36 seconds, and its getting really interesting!

[matmantra]

I'm halfway through. She's definitely telling the truth. She also has a light that comes from her even in the video.

Side note: I still think David Icke was contacted by the Pleiadians or other benevolent ETs to be a messenger, whether he realizes it or not.

[piratecooper]

Sorry - A little info about her.
Very Uplifting vid! :)

Jessica Schab : A Crystal Child Speaks Out
Sedona, Arizona, December 2008

We met Jessica at the NEXUS conference in Australia in October 2008. She was in tears at the end of our presentation and said that she had to talk with us. A young Australian had seen her home-made YouTube video and had generously personally sponsored her long trip from Vancouver to Brisbane. We salute him for this, and he knows who he is.

We realized that it might be interesting (and valuable to many) to interview Jessica. Seeing her as a Crystal Child, we took the decision to include her among our cadre of witnesses as a representative of the younger and very awakened generation who are well-informed, deeply concerned about world events, and aware of the need for mankind to grow spiritually in order to transcend the myriad of problems we all face together.

In this 50 minute video Jessica speaks openly and emotionally about her personal journey, her family, and some of the bewildering experiences she has encountered. Her weaknesses are her dyslexia, and that she has not yet fully integrated her many experiences and perceptions; her strengths are her openness and her determination to bring a message to those who can hear it from her. She sees herself as a newly-arrived teacher and a messenger, and she probably is both of those things.

Like all of us, she still has a long way to go in her journey, and has much to learn. But this is why we are all here, and the choice we make is to help one another as best we can. We are delighted to help present her message to the world.

[matmantra]

Thank you so much for posting this. What an amazing video. I liked a lot of things she had to say. The whole divine feminine and divine male merging to create the inner indigo/crystal child was a beautiful idea. What she said about greys and reptilians, etc being aspects of ourselves was quite fascinating also.

I agree with the whole "self-fulfilling prophecy" part she spoke also.

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg


apart from a fantastic insight and good vid ,
im kind of hoping she isnt your sister .:D

[sade]

Crystal childs, indigos...More ways for you to feel special about yourself.

The first thing I noticed about her was right in the beginning of the video.
Her smile feels forced and not real.
She doesn't seem to be there at all.
(has nothing to do with being spiritual,
but rather only showing one side of the persona. Maybe an altar, not sure.)
Seems like a person who enjoys the attention a lot. That is never a good sign.
-Father was chipped. Yup. Says a lot.

The fact that SO many people who channel are getting information that is no true,
makes you think who exactly is behind that. The 14th of october (?) when the aliens were supposed to "return", nothing happened.
The woman who talked about it, believed her 'guides' and 'they' betrayed her.
How can we be sure that she and others who channel, weren't tapping in to CIA MK 'channels?' (Or getting the information from them?)
Just like this girl, as an example? She could be MK.

- Guides -> Alice in Wonderland 32:16.
- Reptilians ->/<- She made sence, for the first time. But it still feels like she has gotten most of the information she has from the internet.
- Her opinion on 2012 has nothing new in it. Still believe that she has gathered the information from the internet, not from some guide.

[brainfreeze]

Crystal childs, indigos...More ways for you to feel special about yourself.

The first thing I noticed about her was right in the beginning of the video.
Her smile feels forced and not real.
She doesn't seem to be there at all.
(has nothing to do with being spiritual,
but rather only showing one side of the persona. Maybe an altar, not sure.)
Seems like a person who enjoys the attention a lot. That is never a good sign.
-Father was chipped. Yup. Says a lot.

The fact that SO many people who channel are getting information that is no true,
makes you think who exactly is behind that. The 14th of october (?) when the aliens were supposed to "return", nothing happened.
The woman who talked about it, believed her 'guides' and 'they' betrayed her.
How can we be sure that she and others who channel, weren't tapping in to CIA MK 'channels?' (Or getting the information from them?)
Just like this girl, as an example? She could be MK.

- Guides -> Alice in Wonderland 32:16.
- Reptilians ->/<- She made sence, for the first time. But it still feels like she has gotten most of the information she has from the internet.
- Her opinion on 2012 has nothing new in it. Still believe that she has gathered the information from the internet, not from some guide.

A lot of people are not natural the first few time infront of the camera. Perhaps it's that?

I know she says she struggles to focus when reading or watching vids, but her father introduced her to all this, so it figures he would have had some influence and input, as well yes, she probably did get a lot of her info and understanding from the internet.

Perhaps she means her guides guide her to the info that make sense and fits for her, even if she doesn't embrace the complete "doctrine" of whatever it is that is new to her but selects little nuggets from it.

If you read and follow the secret you will see, life does lead you to what you need next spiritually in life, when you are ready. I personally have always believed that and pretty much made my own "religion" by selectin and following only that which made sense to me, regardless of religion.

Sounds like that is what she is doing.

[freedomnonfighter]

30min in and I really have to agree with Sade on a lot of things.

Taking it with a few grains of salt...

Ascended Masters, Starseeds, Crystal Children, Indigos, Lightworkers, Plaeiedians, Guides and Channeling oh-my!!

[parmy]

a few minutes into the vid she claims to be a empty vessel that required filling - can i put my self forward for the job !!!:cool:

[father ted]

Hi piratecooper,
you must be new to the whole truth movement.

[limelady]

Personally I don't feel this interview does anything for Project Camelot's tarnishing image. I have known children way more gifted than this young lass, and they don't claim to be anything special....and they're far less vague as well.

I'd be inclined to think she has been hand-picked by 'somebody' for her looks to front a push for channelling ET's. Would agree with sade that she's likely MK'd.

Wasn't impressed with the girl (intuition said "no") or the the way the interview was conducted......in fact it would have to be the most unimpressive interview of PC's I've ever watched.

Totally underwhelming IMHO. :cool:

[darketernal]

I have to agree with limelady on this one. While I find her quite attractive, I don't find her energy to be credible. Having been around many heavily mind controled people in my life, she has that look in her eyes of someone under deep mind control.

Yes I watched the entire video.

[infin8_possibility]

Her eyes look as though they don't fit her body if that makes sense...

It's as if the real Jessica is looking through 2 cut out holes of a human body.

[beldazar]

hmm...well there wre a few good bits although I find all this 'crystal', 'indigo', 'rainbow' kids thing a bit difficult.


I saw a talk on sacred geometry, I cant remember who by but he spoke of special gifted children in China who had far more powers than the girl in the interview, and no mention of chaneling either. :rolleyes:

A frtend of mine says his two nieces are indigos, I cant see what HE sees!

Plus I mentioned my sons autism to someone the other day and straight away she said, 'have I heard of indigo kids? WHAT?
Oh, thats ok then, they arent vaccine damaged, their indigos? I dont think so...what an excuse?

Autistic traits

No or little speech
Non-speech vocalizations
Delayed development of speech
Echolalia: speech consisting of literally repeating something heard
Delayed echolalia: repeating something heard at an earlier time
Confusion between the pronouns "I" and "You"
Lack of interaction
Lack of eye contact
Lack of response to people
Aggressive behavior due to anxiety and/or frustration
When picked up, offering no "help" ("feels like lifting a sack of --potatoes")
Preoccupation with hands
Flapping hands/ this may be accompanied by jumping up and down with excitement
Spinning
Balancing, e.g. as if standing on a fence
Walking on tiptoes
Extreme dislike of certain sounds / may hold hands over ears
Extreme dislike of touching certain textures
Dislike of being touched / close contact
Either extremely passive behavior or extremely nervous, active behavior
Extreme dislike of certain foods
Behavior that is aggressive to others
Lack of interest
Desire to follow set patterns of behavior / interaction
Desire to keep objects in a certain physical pattern
Repetitive behavior
Self-injurious behavior
Ritualistic behavior

I certainly dont wish to upset anyone here but some of these traits seem to be slightly reptilian

[lozz]

Again, its not about the girl and how credible she is or how likeable she is....a few aspects of what she had to say came through to me and i recognised them as true with myself.

Thanks for posting this ;)

[stickylolly]

a few minutes into the vid she claims to be a empty vessel that required filling - can i put my self forward for the job !!!


I have never laughed so hard in a long time ...... :rolleyes::D

[stickylolly]

I really enjoyed listening to her .. she is young and and still learning, I found her youth and innocents touching and uplifting. We have to remember when we are communicating with just words it is hard to see it from all sides. This is the best vid Project Camelot has posted for a while imo.

[matmantra]

I think people are misunderstanding the idea of indigo and crystal children. They aren't here to be superior, as is often the usual accusation. The mission of indigos is to raise EVERYONE to this state slowly through spiritual evolution either directly or indirectly. It's not about a superior race and inferior race. Psychics around the world started seeing most children born in the 80s having indigo auras which relates to higher spiritual power.

Studies in August 2005 by the University of Chicago stated children born in the 1980s are showing 2 newly identified genes called "Microcephalin" & "ASPM" which seem to regulate brain growth & appear to have undergone strong natural selection since the human & ape lineages split between 5,000,000 and 7,000,000 years ago. [I know you can Bible thump and say we've only been alive for a couple thousand years, but don't] 70% percent of these children have one of these two genes & 30% have both of the genes. 30% of these children have IQ levels of 150-160 which is above the standard IQ level for genius. The average IQ is between 90 and 110.

ALSO, Autism is linked to psychic abilities and the indigo / crystal phenomenon. Some people believe autism is the next step in human evolution. My friend Kirstyn works with autistic children for a living and I've come into contact with them. Most of them are like little psychic generators.

And I don't think her smile doesn't seem forced at all. She seems pretty genuine.

[matmantra]

Again, its not about the girl and how credible she is or how likeable she is....a few aspects of what she had to say came through to me and i recognised them as true with myself.

Thanks for posting this ;)

Exactly. and she even talks about the messengers not being as important as the message and not to get caught up with labels.

I don't think she looks "reptilian" at all. I think David Icke looks waaayy more like a lizard than she does, but looks aren't important...it's the message.

[beldazar]

TBH, Im not that pleased to think that the next generation of humans will have psychic abilities, those that claim they have tend to make a lot of money, way over what they need. The psychics I have met all congregate around new age philosophies and festivals although I have met a couple of really nice ones

However, Gypsy Acorah ripped me off of a tenner when I was 17, it was a lot of money back then, lol. He said I was thinking of moving, I WASNT! He then said I was and was better off down here, and it cost me £!0!


I would much prefer the next generation of humans were loving, compassionate and full of empathy rather than psychic abilities

[matmantra]

TBH, Im not that pleased to think that the next generation of humans will have psychic abilities, those that claim they have tend to make a lot of money, way over what they need. The psychics I have met all congregate around new age philosophies and festivals although I have met a couple of really nice ones

However, Gypsy Acorah ripped me off of a tenner when I was 17, it was a lot of money back then, lol. He said I was thinking of moving, I WASNT! He then said I was and was better off down here, and it cost me £!0!


I would much prefer the next generation of humans were loving, compassionate and full of empathy rather than psychic abilities

That's understandable as there has been a long history of charlatanism. But that's the main connection: love, compassion and empathy and unity. Those with the strongest gifts have these qualities; as emotional triggers activate psychic ability... love being one of the strongest emotions.

[beldazar]

Agreed!

Im working on it.....................;)

[griswald]

Her eyes look as though they don't fit her body if that makes sense...

It's as if the real Jessica is looking through 2 cut out holes of a human body.

Thats strange......I got exactly the same feeling. I watched the video before I went through the thread. So I was unaware you posted this feeling as well.

griswald

[darketernal]

TBH, Im not that pleased to think that the next generation of humans will have psychic abilities, those that claim they have tend to make a lot of money, way over what they need. The psychics I have met all congregate around new age philosophies and festivals although I have met a couple of really nice ones

However, Gypsy Acorah ripped me off of a tenner when I was 17, it was a lot of money back then, lol. He said I was thinking of moving, I WASNT! He then said I was and was better off down here, and it cost me £!0!


I would much prefer the next generation of humans were loving, compassionate and full of empathy rather than psychic abilities


And the current previous ones have not had them?

[beldazar]

yeah got it wrong, matmantra didnt say that, he/she said AUTISM is the next step in human evolution



Yep! You could say that if they continue to poison children with mercury :rolleyes:

[limelady]

So do Autistic children have higher than average IQ's?

Not that I believe IQ is any measure of spiritual connection/intelligence, but I'm just curious considering some are touting them the 'new' humans.

[pduffy4]

She is a fine looking lass but that is all I was impressed with. I think she was making it up.

I had started to watch the video earlier and stoped after about half way, I felt imbarassed wathcing it. I am going to try to watch it all.

I was not to too impressed with Miriam Delicado either in her interview with PC.

[pduffy4]

So do Autistic children have higher than average IQ's?

Not that I believe IQ is any measure of spiritual connection/intelligence, but I'm just curious considering some are touting them the 'new' humans.

I like your new avatar Limelady.:p

[beldazar]

So do Autistic children have higher than average IQ's?

Not that I believe IQ is any measure of spiritual connection/intelligence, but I'm just curious considering some are touting them the 'new' humans.

OOOH! Im not! I stand by my post on autistic symptoms! :eek:

[limelady]

She is a fine looking lass but that is all I was impressed with. I think she was making it up.

I had started to watch the video earlier and stoped after about half way, I felt imbarassed wathcing it. I am going to try to watch it all.

I was not to too impressed with Miriam Delicado either in her interview with PC.

You are not alone in that - others have mentioned they felt similarly about the Miriam Delicado interview by Project Camelot team. With any interview there will always be information we can relate to or 'connect' with.....and we might even resonate well with their overall message, but we must also be ever mindful of what the little voice of intuition in our heads is telling us when viewing any material like this. :)

Thanks for the compliment on the av.....I don't personally "do" Christmas anymore, but the other mods wanted to get into the Christmas spirit, so I thought I might as well dress up a bit for the occasion. ;)

[limelady]

OOOH! Im not! I stand by my post on autistic symptoms! :eek:


Lol.....no I didn't mean you beldazar.

Sorry if you got that impression. :)

[pduffy4]

You are not alone in that - others have mentioned they felt similarly about the Miriam Delicado interview by Project Camelot team. With any interview there will always be information we can relate to or 'connect' with.....and we might even resonate well with their overall message, but we must also be ever mindful of what the little voice of intuition in our heads is telling us when viewing any material like this. :)

Thanks for the compliment on the av.....I don't personally "do" Christmas anymore, but the other mods wanted to get into the Christmas spirit, so I thought I might as well dress up a bit for the occasion. ;)

is that you in the Santa outfit? I supposed ETs would have green Santas or perhaps Grey ones?:cool:

[particlezen]

So do Autistic children have higher than average IQ's?

Not that I believe IQ is any measure of spiritual connection/intelligence, but I'm just curious considering some are touting them the 'new' humans.

i find this worrying considering autism tends to be associated with a lack of empathy & an inablity to emotionally connect to others.

[pduffy4]

The last 6 minutes or so of her interview were pretty interesting. I thought it interesting when she said "I have seen this line-up of souls that just can't wait to be on Earth at this time" and that that is why the planet is so over populated. I bet that will piss off the Illuminati.

You've got to laugh in a way the Illuminati (& Skull and Bones) are trying to kill people off but the population just keeps growing. It's like God is taking the piss out of the Illuminati. Still, I want the killing to stop.

[akujin]

hehe,

If this was inspiring to some, no matter the content or the source of, and no matter the inspiration's intention, and no matter if it was comforting and uplifting for only that moment, you should be thankful for the gift given. :D

[limelady]

hehe,

If this was inspiring to some, no matter the content or the source of, and no matter the inspiration's intention, and no matter if it was comforting and uplifting for only that moment, you should be thankful for the gift given. :D

I agree, take what you can from all information, but also......
http://www.allthatis.co.uk/crop/alien.jpg

Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts. :)

[chris]

Why do people call themselves Indigo/Crystal Children? This is so stupid, your just opening yourself up to a whole load of judgment.

[lightgiver]

You know something when i see a slab of concrete,maybe a 3x3 slab,it weighs a few kilos,i can see it with my eyes,i pick it up and i feel it,the texture,the weight of it,the coarseness,i see its shape,it is maybe square looking or even diamond shaped,i lift it above my head it is heavy and it smells of concrete,i drop it, then the weight of it is released from my arms and as i see it fall ,the slab drops onto my toes,as i am not as fast as george bush,it then smashes into pieces and breaks my toes in the process and it goddam hurts,now that's what i call concrete evidence,now as anyone got any concrete evidence in this detail about anything,because these days i do not know what to believe any more:p:p:D


How I tamed the voices in my head

When Eleanor Longden began hearing things, she soon found herself drugged, sectioned and labelled schizophrenic. Then a psychiatrist taught her how to talk back

Eleanor Longden, 25, started hearing voices when she was a teenager. But, contrary to the usual perception of inner voices, Longden says hers weren't destructive: "It was rather mundane, simply giving me a narration of some of the day-to-day things I was doing. In many ways, the voice was companionate because it was reminding me that I was carrying on with my responsibilities despite feeling so sad inside. There was something constructive about it."

People like Longden who admit to hearing inner voices can generally expect two outcomes: a diagnosis of insanity, and potent medication. But a group of psychiatrists and psychologists believe it's time we reconsidered labels such as schizophrenia and the drugs used as treatment. In fact, they believe we should get people to listen to, and actually engage with, the voices inside their heads.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/how-i-tamed-the-voices-in-my-head-439083.html

[akujin]

Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts. :)

An inspiration as a gift can never be false, for the gift itself has been given to you by you. :D

[limelady]

An inspiration as a gift can never be false, for the gift itself has been given to you by you. :D

Well wherever they come from, and whether false or not, some gifts are not what they appear to be..... once you get past the pretty wrapping paper. ;)

[matmantra]

So do Autistic children have higher than average IQ's?

Not that I believe IQ is any measure of spiritual connection/intelligence, but I'm just curious considering some are touting them the 'new' humans.

Nah. They are usually lower but not always. But that would mean that all 80s kids had autism. They were kind of different thoughts. I'm sorry if I was a little unclear about that. That being said autistic children have amazing mundane "abilities" also.

Autism genes can add up to genius (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4882699.ece)

Another example for autism would be people such as Stephen Wiltshire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfaM_CBvP8

and Akaine for the indigo children:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlZv29E4_0

[lightgiver]

Nah. They are usually lower but not always. But that would mean that all 80s kids had autism. They were kind of different thoughts. I'm sorry if I was a little unclear about that. That being said autistic children have amazing mundane "abilities" also.

Autism genes can add up to genius (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4882699.ece)

Another example for autism would be people such as Stephen Wiltshire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfaM_CBvP8

and Akaine for the indigo children:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlZv29E4_0

Thats a lot more concrety,amazing:)

[matmantra]

matmantra didnt say that, he/she said :


he.;)

<3

[skyver]

An inspiration as a gift can never be false, for the gift itself has been given to you by you. :D


Look at the picture Limelady has presented to you, do the research & go back over what was said...

[kimball13]

indigo is also the color of kalki in a sense weird, but then to is kali.

anyway's i hate to say it if she is indigo she is acting for the camera, then she may be a plant to misrepresent indigo or she is to put it bluntly brainwashed to believe she is indigo so the question still is why is she acting, the example of plasma is a joke, when i got suspended it was because i wrote an 8 page report on the earth and was asked to cut it to 4 and did so,,,,by the way i had to do the report on the earht alone as the other student's did theres in groups on the other planet's, so not only did i have to find the info required but i had to sift and decide what info to use, then give a report and give a test, i got a b+ and attitude from the science teacher and the nerds of the class, then there was the time i got into a debate on something with the teacher then when we went to the book and note's i was proven to be correct and i ended up with 3 day's suspencion,,,,,,,so from personel experience i guese ya could say i know when i hear and see an actor and i do not feal a heart connection on that level,,,,,,,,,,,,and im sorry it does sound alot like my story in certain things just re-written, notice she doesnt speak or say that she already had the info in the books, oh wow i wrote all of that before i heard the part about her being an actor,,,,how do i say this Maddoff ring a bell

[kimball13]

yep a plant and prepped and she admits it with the tape comment's.

[kimball13]

do ya think all indigo's are all fluffy,,,and how would one act in this time of chaos being so sensitive, and if sensitive then why all the smile's and positive vibes, almost as if in a euphoric state in an unatuaral sense and maybe i should re-scan my films and up load themagain, i sent dan burishc a set as well a lear and lear said unremovable yet ive also heardo some say he broke it:cool:

[kimball13]

canada=cameron

[kimball13]

she is pretty but still where's the info or the meat, the spiritual insight or apifany,,,,ya know what bother's me is posers,,maybe that is why i was so offended by people's misconception of my being special forces, although flatering i still will not be what im not or pretend to be,,,but i do allow for a bit of people missjudgeing and i may contribute at time's and chuckle and say wowo ya guy's thought i was what. Weird that me an indigo that death is afraid of is looked at by some as one that has caused death,,,,,im a warrior type indigo and a few other type's like a bit of intel type crap that caused me alot of greif due to there fear of my ability's,,,,,,,,oh poop she said it she killed her father..............................

[kimball13]

now let me see who doe's brain hemorage's

[akujin]

Look at the picture Limelady has presented to you, do the research & go back over what was said...

kk will do,

If you watched the video, remember that boggle part? She was reminded that she should see all the perspectives of things. :D

An inspiration is a reflection of a love for something. If someone said something to me that made me inspired,

regardless of truth,
their intention,
or my personal bias towards that someone,

it was because what was said was a reflection, no matter how small, of what I love, and therefore cannot be false within those boundaries.

[vladmir]

She really should come on this forum, she will fit right in. ;)

[magnoc]

most interesting .

[lostinstrangeworld]

Was skeptical about this at first. But she spoke words of truth which I felt in my heart. I even shed a tear or two near the end. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg

[pinkgeranium]

My instant gut instinct said "nope, not genuine" ( I have that feeing about most of the Project Camelot vids that I have watched)

But I carried on and watched the vid

Her eyes keep darting to the right when she speaks, which sugests she
is using her imagination rather than her memory to answer.

I stand by my first gut instinct.


Also, I wish the folks from Project Camalot would take a look at the CMN site to see how a good interview can be filmed without all the jerking camera and movment in the background. Its almost like they are deliberatley trying to look
amateur?

[lightgiver]

Hope you are well,:)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46095

[limelady]

Well when they first started with their interviews I expected them to improve a little as they went along - maybe with some experience become a little more professional with their interviewing techniques and their camera work etc, but unfortunately if anything they seem to have gotten sloppier, and I agree they do appear very amateurish.

If I'm honest, for me (media trained) Kerry is a shocking interviewer, and I feel I have to suffer her if I want to hear what her guest has to say. Besides her butting in too often, and her assuming too much of her listeners (she often talks as though the listener should already know certain things about the guest, as she herself does), she has no idea how to word her questions so as to get the best from them... although thankfully some guests have been very well spoken and interesting enough to pull the interview off quite well, despite Kerry's lacks.

To give them credit, in amongst the less inspirational interviews, there's been a few reasonable ones worth the effort of catching up on, and I suppose that's why like others, I keep checking in.....but I've been wholly unimpressed with most of their stuff in recent times, and I can see why the PC team are rapidly losing credibility with some.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Whenever anyone posts anything like this, there will always be some who naysay.

I was very skeptical when I first put the interview on, but as I carried on listening I felt her speaking truth which touched my heart.

I even shed a tear or two near the end.

Whether or not her eyes move to the left or right is a little too simple of an interpretation; there could be many reasons why someones eyes look to the right, such as they might be thinking of how to put something into words. Also, it might be possible that whether someone is left or right handed makes a difference.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I think PC are losing credibility because they focus on so much negative stuff, and yes, much of it (like Bill Deagle) is based on psychic info which is unreliable. We have to look within to find our own truth, which Jessica has done, that's why I like her.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I could tell by her mannerisms that she has been very shy most of her life, I think people are reading her all wrong. She also made it clear that Crystal, Indigo, Starseeds etc are only names.

[pinkgeranium]

Whenever anyone posts anything like this, there will always be some who naysay.

I was very skeptical when I first put the interview on, but as I carried on listening I felt her speaking truth which touched my heart.

I even shed a tear or two near the end.

Whether or not her eyes move to the left or right is a little too simple of an interpretation; there could be many reasons why someones eyes look to the right, such as they might be thinking of how to put something into words. Also, it might be possible that whether someone is left or right handed makes a difference.

My instincts just said no, but It could just be my growing unease of
Project Camelot.

As Limelady said kerry is a shocking interveiwer.

[shellygurrrl]

i find this worrying considering autism tends to be associated with a lack of empathy & an inablity to emotionally connect to others.
Yeah, they might appear to not be able to connect. Maybe if we could see things in a different way, the way we're supposed to see them in the future, they would be easy to understand.

[grannymoose]

very interesting, thanks for that dude.

[matmantra]

Yeah, they might appear to not be able to connect. Maybe if we could see things in a different way, the way we're supposed to see them in the future, they would be easy to understand.

Exactly. In my experience autistic people are very energy and vibe sensitive and open up right away with someone who has really really good energy.


This is a letter from my friend Kirstyn's boyfriend meeting one of the autistic kids she works with. The boyfriend is pretty energy sensitive and can do minor healings that I've witnessed:

....On the other side of the coin, I've been able to meet Elliot, the little boy that Kirstyn plays with. You should meet this child. It feels to me like he is an immensly powerful generator, being around him is almost difficult because of the intensity coming off of him. When he laughs I feel his positivity so deeply it nearly overwhelms me. I've actually gotten teary-eyed a few times from the energy I get from him. You see, normally when I move energy (i.e. taking headaches away) I have to consciously open a conduit between the fields I'm working with, its something that takes me a small amount of time and a larger amount of concentration - Elliot just opens the conduit without effort, and he can do it just by looking at me, we don't even have to touch. I haven't tried to stop him from opening it, but I don't think I would be able to. And the boy is fascinated by me (which is good since he holds my focus any time he's around me). His parents (and Kirstyn) tell me that he looks at me like he doesn't look at other people.

[matmantra]

I could tell by her mannerisms that she has been very shy most of her life, I think people are reading her all wrong. She also made it clear that Crystal, Indigo, Starseeds etc are only names.

Yeah. And I'm convinced she's slightly autistic which is what people are talking about with her eyes.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I also feel she is a genuine person, perhaps everything she has endured in her life helped her awaken to her own inner truth.

The only thing I worry about is whether or not she may get caught up in the entrapment of ego with any attention she may get and a sense of identity/ label. But we'll see. I think it is very important to try not to judge people.

[matmantra]

helped her awaken to her own inner truth.


kudos. ;)

[stickylolly]

Do you think she killed her dad with the her saying "I wish you where dead" ?

[lostinstrangeworld]

Do you think she killed her dad with the her saying "I wish you where dead" ?

Not exactly, but she may have contributed to his death. She explains that in the interview.

[matmantra]

Do you think she killed her dad with the her saying "I wish you where dead" ?

I think she just feels guilt. I don't think that would have killed him as you have to include things like free-will and that he creates his reality with thoughts as all of us do. Though I do think it's important what you send out though.

[alternative_answer]

Having watched and listened I feel she is genuine, she mentioned alot of things that I understood and have come across before. She has a good understanding of how we operate and how we can break free. I don't see how anyone watching a video clip can come up with a diagnosis of autism she conducted and articulated herself very well.

[matmantra]

Having watched and listened I feel she is genuine, she mentioned alot of things that I understood and have come across before. She has a good understanding of how we operate and how we can break free. I don't see how anyone watching a video clip can come up with a diagnosis of autism she conducted and articulated herself very well.

There are many levels of autism. And she might not be autistic at all. I just kind of think she might be slightly autistic.

[lostinstrangeworld]

There are many levels of autism. And she might not be autistic at all. I just kind of think she might be slightly autistic.

Or in tune with other worlds. ;)

[bulgariaole]

interesting that the comments on the vid and on the channel of the vid poster are disabled...

anyway, is what shes saying true, or is it 'disinfo', nobody knows. but i belive that she believs it.

[seeker1111]

My instant gut instinct said "nope, not genuine" ( I have that feeing about most of the Project Camelot vids that I have watched)

But I carried on and watched the vid

Her eyes keep darting to the right when she speaks, which sugests she
is using her imagination rather than her memory to answer.



I don't have an opinion on the vid yet but to judge based on her eyes going to the right meaning she's using her imagination instead of memory...hell I do that myself when I talk sometimes to avoid awkward gazes and to think more clearly because I can get easily distracted by looking into a persons eyes and lose my train of thought.

[_invisibleplane_]

I watched all of the vid and found a lot it resonated

To be more specific of where I relate, I feel like I incarnated here intentionally to be here in these times, maybe to help usher in a more harmonious way of living..I like what she said about the illumanti...like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors...

I've also always felt the pleaides star system is very significant...I'm fascinated with space travel too...I feel as if almost I've had experiences in space in past lives, and maybe was not on earth in those times...possibly involving the pleaides as well.

google her name and you can find her facebook profile if you want to send her a msg and ask any questions...I asked her about her thoughts on the pleaides and her experience with project camelot and what she thinks of the interviewers, so I'll share if I get a response

[romas]

Why do people call themselves Indigo/Crystal Children? This is so stupid, your just opening yourself up to a whole load of judgment.



Probably to get Project C to interview her, I think she is telling the truth when it comes to being a lonely kid and she wants some one to share her experience with, the wider audience the merrier I guess. We all want to feel special.

At 8th grade I was having discussion with my Russian lang. teacher how time in todays sense is a human invention and later when some one brought up UFO origins, I said aliens could be our future selves, no idea where I got that from(I haven't seen or read anything of that sort). She kind of looked at me with big eyes and didn't reply much.

[rebel 66]

She is a brave young lady, who speaks the truth as she sees it and she is seeking to help you. Open your hearts.

[matmantra]

I watched all of the vid and found a lot it resonated

To be more specific of where I relate, I feel like I incarnated here intentionally to be here in these times, maybe to help usher in a more harmonious way of living..I like what she said about the illumanti...like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors...

I've also always felt the pleaides star system is very significant...I'm fascinated with space travel too...I feel as if almost I've had experiences in space in past lives, and maybe was not on earth in those times...possibly involving the pleaides as well.

google her name and you can find her facebook profile if you want to send her a msg and ask any questions...I asked her about her thoughts on the pleaides and her experience with project camelot and what she thinks of the interviewers, so I'll share if I get a response


You might be interested in this (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C487A2240A7859E9).

[cluas]

a few minutes into the vid she claims to be a empty vessel that required filling - can i put my self forward for the job !!!:cool:

LMAO :D


I really enjoyed this interview - thx :cool:

[piratecooper]

She also has a web page - i didn't see this.

http://www.jessicamystic.ca/


Anyways she kinda looks like Matt Damon.
:rolleyes:

[piratecooper]

One of her poems...


Illusion
Illusion, is that you
That that has created all this confusion?
Entwined in destitution
Hoping for yet never seeing any hint of absolution
Where is this resolution?
Our souls have been sold to prostitution
But I shall hold onto to restitution
Unhealthy consumption of illusion
Laced with more then one fusion



Illusion, are you still in liberation of all the temptation?
Of all the emotional abuse
Packing away silent ammunition
Did you hear the discussion?
So much accusation
So much frustration
There is hardly any immunization



Lots of fraternization in abrasion
Sent to proclamation
Of soul invasion
Full power on desensitization
Of the nation
Belonging to no station
But subject to every inflammation
A vacation to damnation



Where is the realization?
So I play on quotations to help others realize their aspirations
In this dystopian society metaphorical crustacean
Thought I believe eventually will come the
Emancipation of this poor nation
That is trap us in
Illusion
Or is it really
Ill-us or


Us-ill in unison

[kimball13]

fusion and fission
God and illusion
God is the fusion all becoming one
fision the the explosion of illusion destroying the great union
that atom explode's in one glorios confusion
this is the great illusion, a victory of great confusion.

Just a bit of spiritually scientific poetry from a perception of the difference between fusion and fission power source's and the karmic by-product of taking a shortcut with fission.:cool:

[sillystringmath]

Now then, if she weighed 350lbs and looked like the business end of a toilet plunger.... would she even be interviewed? :eek:

Interesting though. :)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/stephens237/fugly.jpg

[tyler]

I know I can be the worst offender but I am amazed at the cynicism from everybody here.

I was entranced by her beauty. Her purity. She didn't say a great deal that most of us have not heard already but her way of saying it and her sincerity and the fact that one so young could be so knowledgable impressed me.

Why do we never see beautiful young women like her in England? What is it about America or Canada that they can produce such beautiful, sweet young people? The youth in England are so crude, ugly and vicious. So many Amy Winehouse wannabes and Big Brother candidates and alcopop swigging Friday night out on the town in high heels and short skirts and puking up in alleyways nasties.

Why are we like this in the old world? Why are we so ugly?

This girl really moved me. She's one to watch.

[vladmir]

hi tyler, one way to gain additional insights into the personality of an individual is to look at the reflection of the video in a mirror.
In her case, the look in her eyes will reveal something different that what you see in the video.

[tyler]

I'll try it! :)

[matmantra]

hi tyler, one way to gain additional insights into the personality of an individual is to look at the reflection of the video in a mirror.
In her case, the look in her eyes will reveal something different that what you see in the video.

huh? why?

[vladmir]

http://jessicamystic.ca/home/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=47&task=videodirectlink&id=16

That being said, i really like Jessica. And i like her because her intentions are GOOD. Its obvious to me.
I've no criticisms whatsoever, because we are all learning, we are all growing.
It just seems that in her enthusiasm, she has put herself out-there a little too early, but there is no 'early' really, it just is.

[knightbk]

I am sure the girl means well but the simple truth is, I can not believe what she says. It is essentially the same as my parents telling me about Santa Clause.

I find it startling how quick people on this forum are to discount what the Governments put out as "lies!" or products of the Illuminati, but eagery eat up all this other stuff without even a thought of questioning whether it is real or not.


Now, that being said, her message of hope is good. However I question that anything else is actually "truthful". Her appearance means little to me as well. Yes it is nice that she is a beautiful girl, but in this age of enlightenment, physical beauty should mean nothing.



Which brings up my next question....

Why do people need to believe in Aliens, NWO's, etc, etc in order to to come to the simple understanding that we are all humans and should treat each other with respect and dignity in this world?

Anyways, I wish her well on her path, even if I do not believe in what she is actualy saying.

[romas]

Why do people need to believe in Aliens, NWO's, etc, etc in order to to come to the simple understanding that we are all humans and should treat each other with respect and dignity in this world?



Not just each other, but every being. I guess people need outside enemy or outside love source to put meaning to their lives.

[sunya]

Haven't watched this one yet, but I share others' doubts about PC's sources, having watched all of their previous interviews. The whole thing stinks of disinfo.

I've been working on the assumption that Bill and Kerry are just a bit naive and overly credulous, but I can't help wondering if they might be pushing disinfo from the get-go? Are there any suggestions floating around to this effect?

[mahabaratara]

Why do we never see beautiful young women like her in England?


It would help if once in a while you opened your eyes...

[romas]

Haven't watched this one yet, but I share others' doubts about PC's sources, having watched all of their previous interviews. The whole thing stinks of disinfo.

I've been working on the assumption that Bill and Kerry are just a bit naive and overly credulous, but I can't help wondering if they might be pushing disinfo from the get-go? Are there any suggestions floating around to this effect?



They have to much contradicting interviews to be narrowed into some sort of esoteric agenda.

[shellygurrrl]

I watched all of the vid and found a lot it resonated

To be more specific of where I relate, I feel like I incarnated here intentionally to be here in these times, maybe to help usher in a more harmonious way of living..I like what she said about the illumanti...like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors...

I've also always felt the pleaides star system is very significant...I'm fascinated with space travel too...I feel as if almost I've had experiences in space in past lives, and maybe was not on earth in those times...possibly involving the pleaides as well.

google her name and you can find her facebook profile if you want to send her a msg and ask any questions...I asked her about her thoughts on the pleaides and her experience with project camelot and what she thinks of the interviewers, so I'll share if I get a response
Good post! I feel as you do and had a lot of resonance with what you said.

[mightiswrong]

I came across Jessica's poem the space of love (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29488) back in 2008 and posted it on this thread. I have just read her introduction to her poems and will be reading some more of them.

http://jessicamystic.ca/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=1&id=1&Itemid=2

I came across this interview on a thread at space of love forum which I shall quote.

Hi there my name is Jessica and i really wanted to help spread the word on anastasia
so i decided to do that by sharing my own personal story and insights to project camelot
I wore my ringing cedar proudly


youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRR ... annel_page

so far i have had over 28,000 hits and then i lead people to my website where i advertise for the ringing cedars of russia series
i am not getting paid to advertise for them
i am doing this cause people need to know about these books
and i am useing the vehicle and audience of something vast like project camelot and coast to coast am to draw millions more to anastasia and her dream

warm embrace in unconditional love
thank you for you being you
jessica an emmissary for Anastasia

we are the answer to our prayers
www.jessicamystic.ca

I think she speaks a lot of truth and espcially agree with her on the wonderful future we shall create... "The very same place you birthed the love space
A place by where you could always go
When you felt low
To rekindle your joy glow"
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29488

[lostinstrangeworld]

I like her because she does seem like a genuine person with a good heart, and that is what matters.

[rossus]

she doesn't seem special at all imo

i don't see what makes her "indigo" or "crystal child"?
maybe she calls herself that way to make more money giving "spiritual counselling" or something.
that's just a guess tho.

[squemby]

Waw shes a piece of ass!!!!!

[geewhizz]

More New Age codswallop from Project Spamalot.

I like how the self proclaimed 'Crystal Child' is titled the fairy godmother. http://www.jessicamystic.ca/

She wanted to get into acting at an early age. Once and actress, always an actress.

[anthony65]

Waw shes a piece of ass!!!!!

You feeling better now Squemby? ;)

Are you ready to make babies? :rolleyes:

Isn't the world a wonderful place? :D

[size_of_light]

Somebody give me the cliff notes on this thing. I got a few minutes in and it was boring as hell.

It looked like the intro to a gonzo porn movie where they interview a blond chick about her first time before the black guy steps into frame.

Some comments have described her as 'radiant' and 'beautiful'. I viewed her as creepy and disturbed.

Everything I've seen that's connected to 'Project Camelot' reeks to me of misdirection.

[mightiswrong]

It looked like the intro to a gonzo porn movie where they interview a blond chick about her first time before the black guy steps into frame.

So just because the interview is with a blonde female it looks like the intro to a porn movie? I think that says more about you then it says about jessica.


Everything I've seen that's connected to 'Project Camelot' reeks to me of misdirection.

"so far i have had over 28,000 hits and then i lead people to my website where i advertise for the ringing cedars of russia series
i am not getting paid to advertise for them
i am doing this cause people need to know about these books
and i am useing the vehicle and audience of something vast like project camelot and coast to coast am to draw millions more to anastasia and her dream
" - quoted above.

Good job. Let's turn the world into a beautiful garden!

[redman]

I would pay to see that older bird going down on the younger one. LMAO

[mightiswrong]

I would pay to see that older bird going down on the younger one. LMAO

I don't find that funny at all. You know there are women who read this forum? You are being rude and insulting.

[size_of_light]

So just because the interview is with a blonde female it looks like the intro to a porn movie?

Not just the colour of her hair...the lighting, her nervous responses, the sleazy-looking woman standing behind the camera throwing the questions at her...the roving cameraman who moves behind the couch and then the cut to his POV shot filming up her nose as he's on the move. It's textbook stuff.

[simplysimon]

I liked what she had to say. The interviewer was a little clumsy at times, but the message she gave struck me as truthful. Reminded me of "The Architect" in the Matrix, a frightened old man....

I didn't care much about her appearance, but her tone of voice expressed some very painful experiences in her past.

The bit about looking for words in boggle was a great example, just change your perspective.

[redman]

I don't find that funny at all. You know there are women who read this forum? You are being rude and insulting.

Lighten up for fuck sake. Sure the women on the forum won't be to fucking insulted by what I said. Anyway it was joke. Geeez.

[geewhizz]

Lighten up for fuck sake. Sure the women on the forum won't be to fucking insulted by what I said. Anyway it was joke. Geeez.

Well I find it highly amusing. Would love to see them at it! or maybe thats just my Male DNA programming.

[helloperator]

What's with the production values? People walking around with camera unit 2...it's youtube...come on

[lakkimakki]

shes got huge mouth and huge tits !!:D

[darketernal]

Attention Gentlemen.

I know we are having fun with the porn jokes and the attractiveness of the girl in question, but I am sure those interested in the thread would be grateful if you could stay on topic please. Thank you.

[lakkimakki]

sorry:(

[amethyst]

Oh come on guys! This is so cheesy and contrived.......the cheeta in the beginning walking with that silly tv series sounding music in the background. Heck, I could make a video like this and call myself a "crystal amethyst" child.

Methinks she might be "controled' ...she seems so rehearsed.

Look at the hokey videos on her website :rolleyes:

[lakkimakki]

yeah video is kind a fake... and shes smiling , like shes on crack !! :)

[simplysimon]

I guess David or his missus could end the speculation, it seems she spent a week with Pamela Icke.

http://jessicamystic.ca/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=197&Itemid=1

[squemby]

You feeling better now Squemby? ;)

Are you ready to make babies? :rolleyes:

Isn't the world a wonderful place? :D


Hahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

Yes, indeed it is!

:D

[sade]

I guess David or his missus could end the speculation, it seems she spent a week with Pamela Icke.

http://jessicamystic.ca/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=197&Itemid=1

Oh bloody hell.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Extracted from the link simplysimon posted:
I thank all of you for your patience with the second part of 2012, it is just when I flow so much, I need to take a break before I get back into the water but I shall have it for you very soon. It will dispel some more of this doom and gloom, end of the world talk that is right now a hot topic on the project Camelot forum by some guy called astral something. I am told he got over 80,000 hits in the first week.

Still so many seem to be more drawn to this stuff, look to hear from strangers on line rather than listen to their children or even their own inner child. They'd rather look up that information than be solutions. They get so worried that they forget to even begin. Like a thief, it robs their present moment of happiness, when they could be spending their time with family and in nature picking up what they once knew. Where our inner being is so solid and peaceful that even in a war zone, or a valley of the shadow of death, you’re in the womb of the absence of fear of evil and death.

[thorleyart]

''what she said about the illumanti...like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors...''

like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors and trillions of dollars worth of bullets and bombs...''

[rossus]

I guess David or his missus could end the speculation, it seems she spent a week with Pamela Icke.

http://jessicamystic.ca/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=197&Itemid=1
she might be able to end speculation when david icke and/or his missus are 100% honest themselves,
but are you so sure of that?

i suspect many on this forum are not ;)

Do not accept anything by mere tradition. Do not accept anything just because it accords with your scriptures. Do not accept anything because it agrees with your opinions or because it is socially acceptable. Do not accept anything because it comes from the mouth of a respected person. Rather, observe closely and if it is to the benefit of all, accept and abide by it.

[simplysimon]

The only things I am sure of are the things that my heart tells me are true, it's my reality, my choices, my reactions.

I posted the link because I saw so many people judging, through a poor medium, as to what the motivation behind this interview was. I tried to digest what she had written and found it ironic that her pages said she had spent time with Pamela Icke.

Some of the things she wrote about and said in her interview made my heart jump, I listen and read carefully when I get that feeling.

[amethyst]

My discernment is telling me she is a fraud in the 1st degree. And she may not even know it.

[skyfish]

My discernment is telling me she is a fraud in the 1st degree. And she may not even know it.

My sentiments exactly. I think she may be deluding herself a little. We all have an intrinsic desire to be special and significant. No matter what people say, the ego is extremely powerful and manifests in different ways.

[simplysimon]

Indeed she may be, she could also be telling the truth, or telling the truth as she perceives it. You can't be told the truth, each of us have to find it for ourselves.

[amethyst]

My sentiments exactly. I think she may be deluding herself a little. We all have an intrinsic desire to be special and significant. No matter what people say, the ego is extremely powerful and manifests in different ways.

I think she may be deluding herself a little.

Possibly mind control. She's too rehearsed.

[size_of_light]

My discernment is telling me she is a fraud in the 1st degree. And she may not even know it.

Likewise. I've read some of her writings now and in my head I keep hearing the sound-effect of myself vomiting on hard concrete, such is the effect of her false, sickly-sweet syrupy nonsense on my mind.

[rossus]

Likewise. I've read some of her writings now and in my head I keep hearing the sound-effect of myself vomiting on hard concrete, such is the effect of her false, sickly-sweet syrupy nonsense on my mind.
for sure,
to people in need of real love she tells some "loving words"
instead of telling people how to EMPOWER themself... ;)

[mightiswrong]

Jessica does not proclaim to be any more or less special/ significant then any of us can be.

The negative images many wish to project onto our futures are not in the best interest of Man.

The level of empowerment embodied in Jessica Schabs message depends on which message and how one interprets it. I appreciate her efforts and success in drawing further attention to the grand solutions descibed in the Ringing cedars series which are so effectively overwhelming the dark forces and their grotesque failing images of hoplessness and despair.

[mikethepunk]

She is not that special.
There are many people that are awakened that have had similar situations and stories. I have tons of stories about the truth and my spiritual journey, I just dont sit and tape myself talking about it. It is called aggrandizement and it is a product of the ego. real self realized masters on this planet do not aggrandize.

She is also too young and has not been in this life long enough to test her truth in the real world and she does give me the impression of a future fraudulent teacher.

[mikethepunk]

''what she said about the illumanti...like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors...''

like a frail old man behind smokes and mirrors and trillions of dollars worth of bullets and bombs...''

Anyone that watched the X files could say this kind of statement.
This is what the cig. smoking man represented.

[mikethepunk]

[QUOTE=simplysimon;833959I tried to digest what she had written and found it ironic that her pages said she had spent time with Pamela Icke.

[/QUOTE]

It is called name dropping. A real self realized person would not feel the need to do that.

[vladmir]

Heads up. NEW videos by jessicamystic1 posted on youtube. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoES3xe45I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLlSIJX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9IPVlAytY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdJKY3Ha8bM

[crimsonblade]

She seems really sweet and genuine to me.

[vladmir]

She seems really sweet and genuine to me.
me too. :)

[elysiumfire]

I suppose we should expect ourselves to get past the fact that she happens to be a young female, with a not unpleasant visage and body, so instead of concentrating upon the sexist thoughts arising into mind, perhaps we should concentrate wholly on the message she is seeking to deliver.

Having said that, new age-ism always carries a tone of dissonace for me, all sweetness and light and love, and utopian. It just doesn't fit practically and pragmatically into the daily grind of our individual life experiences. On her website she states this...Spiritual Guidance is a combination of self awareness with reprogramming of the mind set.

Rather than 'spiritual guidance', I would say it is more a 'spiritual' awakening that life experience potentially brings to us through adversarial circumstances. We can awaken to the cycle of self-destructive behaviour mechanisms, that pin us down in a life time's rut, or we can become alert and self-changing through the cognosis and gnosis of the reality we are living in. My signature states what I mean.

Awakening to the deceptions of the cattle-feed of what is accepted as 'normality' places one on the first rung of the 'dark night of the soul' which is the onset of self-reprogramming. We rid ourselves of the deceptions, not instantly, but slowly and incrementally, withdrawing from the concepts of culture and nationhood, and emerge into a understanding that they are mind-imprisoning concepts. Until we awaken, we are like Plato's Troglydites, chained to the cave's floor only able to perceive shadows on the walls and accepting them as being the true reality. Now and again, one or two of us escape our chains and wander out of the cave and see that the shadows aren't reality at all, but a manipulated presentation of reality, and we then return to tell the occupants of the cave on the mass illusion being played upon us...but are ridiculed and ostracised in our attempts to bring mental deliverance from their mind's prison.

All we can do is put the message out there, what other's do with it should not be our concern. Everyone will awaken when they are ready to do so. Our purpose is to plant the seed and allow it to grow on its own accord, in its own way. That is how we become the change we want to be, at the level of individuality. If the world changes incidental to this then fine and good, if not, then we keep chipping away at the deceptions. You cannot force people into an awakening, it has to occur only in themself when they are resonant to the message. We ourselves do not decide it.

[merlincove]

great video, thanks for sharing

[ladypagan]

What would that come from, but I've got only terrible experiences with Crystal and aswell Indigo Children?
They always act like a energy vampires, they always try to destroy what others has been created and whats more terrible, they take over others works and say its theirs. I know a crystal girl who did torture her children and who makes a lot of money doing nothing.
For me crystal children are nothing I would ever in my life accept as a normal lifeworth creature.

[vladmir]

For me crystal children are nothing I would ever in my life accept as a normal lifeworth creature.
did you read what you just typed?

[deathcultreject]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg

I was wondering why they put her up on a soap box at first, then she kind of won me over.

It's nice to know that there's a younger generation out there learning the stuff that used to come with a load of twisted occult baggage, and some of them are cutting out the crap and keeping the good bits.

She's cool.

[ladypagan]

did you read what you just typed?
I did, I am just not sure did I use correct words.

[deathcultreject]

What would that come from, but I've got only terrible experiences with Crystal and aswell Indigo Children?
They always act like a energy vampires, they always try to destroy what others has been created and whats more terrible, they take over others works and say its theirs. I know a crystal girl who did torture her children and who makes a lot of money doing nothing.
For me crystal children are nothing I would ever in my life accept as a normal lifeworth creature.

Ahh, what you're talking about is a psychopath who has stolen other people's image and identity stuff. It can happen to any group, subculture, religion, or bandwagon etc.

I know of people from brainwashing orders who have done the same to the anti-capitalist movement etc.

I don't know much about the new trends for 'special' children, but presumably they're easily ripped off by image, and credability stealers who need a new trend to abuse.

It's allways sad when they find a scene that's too laid back deffend against it.

[deathcultreject]

I suppose we should expect ourselves to get past the fact that she happens to be a young female, with a not unpleasant visage and body, so instead of concentrating upon the sexist thoughts arising into mind, perhaps we should concentrate wholly on the message she is seeking to deliver.


Her physical beauty did put me off a bit. People who fit that ideal of beauty can get socialy trained to talk boring crap, because people want something else from them. (Personaly I get sick of people who've been after something else when I was trying to teach them something, and she's better looking than me, so I just thought 'poor girl' and listened to her anyway)

She got better when she started explaining her philosophy, so I was pleasantly suprised.

[sade]

Unless she was born 9 years ago, she can't be a crystal child.
Crystal children started appearing on this planet after the year 2000.
Before that it was indigo kids, and now crystal kids. What next? Blue kids? Rainbow kids?

[deathcultreject]

Unless she was born 9 years ago, she can't be a crystal child.
Crystal children started appearing on this planet after the year 2000.
Before that it was indigo kids, and now crystal kids. What next? Blue kids? Rainbow kids?

Where did you get that from?

I was hoping that a crystal child was just like a flower child but more likely to go easy on the hard drugs and less likely to join the manson family.

[sade]

deathcult, here:
http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-crystal-children.htm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=247&topic_id=20135&mesg_id=20135

I dislike the whole indigo/crystal movement very strongly because a lot of people are using it to feed their own ego and to feel special.
Even some organizations have started saying that kids/adults with ADD/ADHD, Autism are crystal's/indigos!
Great way to feed the ego of the parents, huh? "My kid doesn't have a concentration problem, they are a crystal child! They are special!"

[beldazar]

Good post Sade and I certainly agree!

No doubt the lady being interviewed is nice enough but she's nothing out of the ordinary....did she give herself the 'label' or did someone attach it to her....

[lynfowars]

How come none of the 'special' people are plain, or ugly?

A sniff of eugenics... things can be better, and you can be pretty, if you do what we propose..

Not for me thanks, I prefer warts and all.

[beldazar]

How come none of the 'special' people are plain, or ugly?

.

exactly! :rolleyes:

[deathcultreject]

How come none of the 'special' people are plain, or ugly?

A sniff of eugenics... things can be better, and you can be pretty, if you do what we propose..

Not for me thanks, I prefer warts and all.

These days a lot of ugly people take up manipulation, covert hypnosis and speed seduction etc. (because it takes longer for someone who fancies them to come along) and then they get dragged into that whole social / spiritual cancer of mind control and denial etc. Your not very likely to find beautiful auras in there. :(

I have a lot of trouble with uglies these days because holywood has a thing about typical Celts like me, and it's brainwashed everyone to think we look like romantic sex gods.

I do think it's extremely unfair on everyone else, and I do speak out about it, but that doesn't stop me being a target for jealous uglies.

Sometimes, I can't even shave before I go out, because it will get me into fights for being a pretty boy.

[deathcultreject]

deathcult, here:
http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-crystal-children.htm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=247&topic_id=20135&mesg_id=20135

I dislike the whole indigo/crystal movement very strongly because a lot of people are using it to feed their own ego and to feel special.
Even some organizations have started saying that kids/adults with ADD/ADHD, Autism are crystal's/indigos!
Great way to feed the ego of the parents, huh? "My kid doesn't have a concentration problem, they are a crystal child! They are special!"


Ahh, OK, thanks for that.

I didn't read it all, but I think I've read enough :(

[romas]

Well the paradox is that even ugly people like pretty people more than other ugly people, it's a fact of biological body, if you live exclusively in biological level you don't want to see ugly people and you don't even want to see yourself if you are ugly. Pretty people are attractive and that's all about sex and reproduction.

Ugly and pretty is just a matter of preception anyway, objectively there are no ugly or pretty people, there are just people you want to see and people you'd rather not see.

Internet/telecomunications are kind of interesting, because you can have a decent conversation without having to analyze how sexy the person is.

[bornagain]

I disagree she is not hot. :D




~Born Again

[gripit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg

Thx piratecooper, that was great. She seems sooooo genuine and sooooo sweet! Well worth the watch :)

[ladypagan]

I dont want to be around when this kind of creature like indigo or even worse, crystal person gets to a power. I still like living out of terror in the world wheres everything is controlled.

I have personal experiences with indigo children and it was no good! Hope here is eyes who can look an energetical picture.

[beldazar]

I dont want to be around when this kind of creature like indigo or even worse, crystal person gets to a power. here is .

Thats something that struck me when I clicked on the first link Sade posted, "make good leaders" heirarchy again,. not a good sign....

[strife]

Just watched the video, had some interesting points. Here's some various thoughts I had on it.

The trauma parts tend to be a big Red flag, generally speaking. Where she mentions how her dad helps to let in these ETs to talk to her? That sounds like textbook mind control. Trauma is the best way to let these things in. And if you want to look at it on the other side, it's also a great time for various entites and/or spirits to come in as well.

The part where she mentions how some random guy comes up to her with all this info about her family and gives her all these tapes and she just gives up and succumbs sounds kind of suspect as well. I think any one of us who's tried to push this on someone know how that goes. This isn't the kind of subject to push people into, and you've got to wonder what is someone's agenda when they're doing so.

A random thought after listening/reading about these types of people/interviews/etc. over the years. Makes you wonder about the Conspiracy Within the Conspiracy. To put all of these people out there to push a certain agenda, but for what purpose exactly?

UFO "abduction", chip in the brain, people worried about them finding it, hospital blackouts. Sounds kinda like some CIA black ops work. Or a scene from the X-files.

I do agree with the part about thoughts creating reality. Realizing that, and utilizing it, is the first real step to "winning", if you will.

The problem with thoughts creating reality is letting things like "Pleiadian Ascended Masters" hijack those thoughts and use it to their own ends. Not too different from governments and religions of the world in that respect.

If you want to use that power to make the world a better place, do it. Or uplift humanity, do it. Just check yourself and make sure you're not doing it just because some wankoid supposed aliens sitting just outside our planet sending thoughts into people's heads on what to do, yet not doing anything themselves other than influence peddling.

They can get bent for all I care, they've done jack all for humanity as far as I can tell, so they sure as hell aren't getting my vote on how to shape the course of events. That's assuming they're real, and not just a massive satellite-based illuminati mind control scheme. Both are possible, in theory.

But I do wonder, if the conspiracy within the conspiracy of getting all of this out there and having all of these "lightworkers" and such. All programmed to be some will-projecting army of "light". Then comes "Execute Order 66".

As for the Illuminati "Doing us a service"? W-T-F! I can think of quite a few better ways to teach people than breaking them down to build them up again.

On the all, I think you can call it "genuine" in the sense there's something going on there, assuming it's all true how things happened. But as far as what part of the genuine it is, aliens/entities or mind control, is anyone's guess.

I'll give it a +1 for at least not being as creepy as those desteni videos. Now those are bad.

[beldazar]

I'll give it a +1 for at least not being as creepy as those desteni videos. Now those are bad.


Youre not wrong there! :eek:

[seaweed]

My discernment is telling me she is a fraud in the 1st degree. And she may not even know it.

I have to agree with you, Amethyst.

She makes some good points (though nothing I haven't heard elsewhere), and seems like a genuinely nice person, but, to me, her presentation comes across like a not particularly good actor speaking from a rehearsed script - over earnest emphasis, not fully 'in character' (I'll explain that in more depth if anyone wants me to - it's also a useful tool for spotting liars) etc..

She wants to believe it, but isn't entirely convinced yet. Or, in acting terms, she hasn't found the 'truth' of her character/role yet.

Whilst I accept that she may be nervous at being interviewed, this would be at odds with her claim to be a crystal child, especially compared with the child genius painter Akiane, who speaks with great confidence and authority.

I'm not convinced that Jessica is a crystal child (if such thing exists), but rather someone who has always been a bit of an outsider and has experienced trauma, and so calling herself a crystal child is a way of making herself feel special and deserving of a place on Earth.

[amethyst]

I have to agree with you, Amethyst.

She makes some good points (though nothing I haven't heard elsewhere), and seems like a genuinely nice person, but, to me, her presentation comes across like a not particularly good actor speaking from a rehearsed script - over earnest emphasis, not fully 'in character' (I'll explain that in more depth if anyone wants me to - it's also a useful tool for spotting liars) etc..

She wants to believe it, but isn't entirely convinced yet. Or, in acting terms, she hasn't found the 'truth' of her character/role yet.

Whilst I accept that she may be nervous at being interviewed, this would be at odds with her claim to be a crystal child, especially compared with the child genius painter Akiane, who speaks with great confidence and authority.

I'm not convinced that Jessica is a crystal child (if such thing exists), but rather someone who has always been a bit of an outsider and has experienced trauma, and so calling herself a crystal child is a way of making herself feel special and deserving of a place on Earth.

Thank you seaweed. Do you have a background in acting, multi-media type of occupation? I do, and I can tell you that her presentation does not come across as sincere to me. It wouldn't surprise me if she was being "used' to further some sort of agenda.

[sloughi]

How come none of the 'special' people are plain, or ugly? She is ugly. Just blonde but ugly. The big question is how come none of them are non-white. Especially, with the Indigo children thing which STARTED in India. This is WHY people don't believe the whole UFO field. This isn't a HUMANKIND phenomenon, it is a WHITEMAN's phenomenon.

[seaweed]

Thank you seaweed. Do you have a background in acting, multi-media type of occupation? I do, and I can tell you that her presentation does not come across as sincere to me. It wouldn't surprise me if she was being "used' to further some sort of agenda.

Hi Amethyst. Yes, I work in a couple areas of the entertainment industry and also trained as an actor but don't act now.

And yes, you're right. Anyone with our sort of background will be able to tell that her presentation is not genuine. I think you're also right about her being used. That would explain why she is unconvincing. If she's spouting someone else's agenda, no wonder she hasn't found the 'truth' of her role! :)

And I believe it is a 'role' as opposed to an 'alter'.

By the way, and completely off topic (sorry!), Jade Goody is/was a much more convincing actor/alter! ;)

[amethyst]

Hi Amethyst. Yes, I work in a couple areas of the entertainment industry and also trained as an actor but don't act now.

And yes, you're right. Anyone with our sort of background will be able to tell that her presentation is not genuine. I think you're also right about her being used. That would explain why she is unconvincing. If she's spouting someone else's agenda, no wonder she hasn't found the 'truth' of her role! :)

And I believe it is a 'role' as opposed to an 'alter'.

By the way, and completely off topic (sorry!), Jade Goody is/was a much more convincing actor/alter! ;)

Living in the states, I am not really familiar with Jade Goody, but have read some of the various posts about her. America certainly has it's "Jade Goody's" also ;)

[beldazar]

She is ugly. Just blonde but ugly. The big question is how come none of them are non-white. Especially, with the Indigo children thing which STARTED in India. This is WHY people don't believe the whole UFO field. This isn't a HUMANKIND phenomenon, it is a WHITEMAN's phenomenon.

I listened to a Drunvalo Melchilzedec do a talk on sacred geometry, he mentions real crystal/indigo children and says they are chinese. :)


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3080455261022970463&hl=en

[deathcultreject]

I have to agree with you, Amethyst.

She makes some good points (though nothing I haven't heard elsewhere), and seems like a genuinely nice person, but, to me, her presentation comes across like a not particularly good actor speaking from a rehearsed script - over earnest emphasis, not fully 'in character' (I'll explain that in more depth if anyone wants me to - it's also a useful tool for spotting liars) etc..

She wants to believe it, but isn't entirely convinced yet. Or, in acting terms, she hasn't found the 'truth' of her character/role yet.

Whilst I accept that she may be nervous at being interviewed, this would be at odds with her claim to be a crystal child, especially compared with the child genius painter Akiane, who speaks with great confidence and authority.

I'm not convinced that Jessica is a crystal child (if such thing exists), but rather someone who has always been a bit of an outsider and has experienced trauma, and so calling herself a crystal child is a way of making herself feel special and deserving of a place on Earth.

Well a lot of what you've just said could also be said about myself as a mind control surviver.

That's OK.

I'd be interested to hear about your tool for spotting liars.

I believe that the well known techniques of eye / face / body language reading in this area can be easily rigged with Pavlovian conditioning to make the target look like a liar.

My stalkers try that kind of thing all the time. They REALLY get off on it, as a matter of fact. Imagine for a gang of sex criminals who love a power trip, and who know triggers which will psychologicaly torture a person every time they tell the truth or look honest. They aren't going to keep that on hold, even if they're ordered to by their superiors.

Don't forget that it's the CIA etc. that gives these so called lie detector techniques to the public. They wouldn't do that unless they had ways 'round it.

[mightiswrong]

It wouldn't surprise me if she was being "used' to further some sort of agenda.

Well let's hear it. What is this terrible "agenda" she is being "used" for?

[deathcultreject]

And yes, you're right. Anyone with our sort of background will be able to tell that her presentation is not genuine. I think you're also right about her being used. That would explain why she is unconvincing. If she's spouting someone else's agenda, no wonder she hasn't found the 'truth' of her role! :)

And I believe it is a 'role' as opposed to an 'alter'.


WTF?

Are you saying you have specialist knowledge about MPD now ?

This should be . . . entertaining.

[mightiswrong]

Little madames like this Jessica should shut the fuck up. How dare she speak out of turn.

[cleft_asunder]

Ascended Masters, Starseeds, Crystal Children, Indigos, Lightworkers, Plaeiedians, Guides and Channeling oh-my!!

You know it's reliable when you have those things.

[amethyst]

Well let's hear it. What is this terrible "agenda" she is being "used" for?

You wrote "terrible' agenda.

I wrote 'some sort" of agenda.

Hmmm...let me see, for one, she could quite possibly be used to foster the "crystal child' delusion. Why do we even need special "crystal" children? I think anyone can become more enlightened by trusting their God given instincts and following their heart and intellect.

[2013]

yeah got it wrong, matmantra didnt say that, he/she said AUTISM is the next step in human evolution



Yep! You could say that if they continue to poison children with mercury :rolleyes:

Have you ever considered the info dis info link to trying to plant the idea that autism is related to vaccines ? while we know they fill us full of crap thru them , maybe they are aware of an emerging new phase and dont want us and future humans being any more psychic as it would expose them . Maybe thats the very reason for poisoning the children in the first place. Just a thought . But the children coming here now do to me at least seem far more aware intelligent loving psychic as well as the downsides to these traits .Perhaps some of the parents are just doing a better job at allowing the children more freedom and awareness and not suppressing them like we where . As in theres no such thing as invisible friends , fairies etc . :D

[mightiswrong]

Why do we even need special "crystal" children?

We need as many special children as possible. That includes you amethyst.

[seaweed]

WTF?

Are you saying you have specialist knowledge about MPD now ?

This should be . . . entertaining.

Hi Deathcultreject,

I think you may have misread or misunderstood my posts. I was talking about acting techniques, nothing to do with multiple personality disorder. Amethyst and I share a background of having been trained in acting/media. That's the specialist knowledge I have.

This is why I said I believe (i.e. it is my opinion) that Jessica is playing a role rather than her video persona being an alter, because I am not convinced that she fully believes everything she is saying. Although there are parts of the video where I feel that she is convincing.

I have seen videos of people with MPD and their alters come across as actual personalities, not roughly sketched characters that they are trying on for size.

An actor who is not fully 'in character' will be unconvincing in the same way that a basically truthful person will be an unconvincing liar, because they don't truly believe what they are saying; and it's not about the standard body language cues which, as you say, are easily rigged or misinterpreted.

It's not easy to describe without hijacking the thread and taking it completely off-topic. It's also something that is better understood by doing rather than reading about it (acting, I mean), but if you do want to discuss it, let me know :).

[coco]

She struck me as having a 'red light reaction', when a person knows they are on camera or mic. Well presented, smooth, facial expressions, the way the body is held, intonation. Either she has been trained or is emulating people being interviewed on television. That initial impression dismisses the whole thing for me.

[amethyst]

We need as many special children as possible. That includes you amethyst.

But I guess my point is that we are all special and unique in our own way. We all have different things to contribute to humanity that is very needed and valued.

The problem in society today is people are taught that they do not matter. And this is a tragedy. We are all treasured souls and all have gifts to offer to the world. It's not just for the "crystal children' to tell us this.

We all matter. We are not all the same but we all have gifts that are resident inside us that are needed in this world today.

This illusionary world fostered and promoted by the elite, lies to us and highly values what "it" places a value upon. But this is a lie. In truth, everyone has something to offer when they are taught to let their light shine, and to not be afraid.

[lostinstrangeworld]

"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.

It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.
We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant,gorgeous, handsome, talented and fabulous?

Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of God.
Your playing small does not serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God within us.
It is not just in some; it is in everyone.

And, as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.

As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others".

[deathcultreject]

Hi Deathcultreject,

I think you may have misread or misunderstood my posts. I was talking about acting techniques, nothing to do with multiple personality disorder. Amethyst and I share a background of having been trained in acting/media. That's the specialist knowledge I have.

This is why I said I believe (i.e. it is my opinion) that Jessica is playing a role rather than her video persona being an alter, because I am not convinced that she fully believes everything she is saying. Although there are parts of the video where I feel that she is convincing.

I have seen videos of people with MPD and their alters come across as actual personalities, not roughly sketched characters that they are trying on for size.

An actor who is not fully 'in character' will be unconvincing in the same way that a basically truthful person will be an unconvincing liar, because they don't truly believe what they are saying; and it's not about the standard body language cues which, as you say, are easily rigged or misinterpreted.

It's not easy to describe without hijacking the thread and taking it completely off-topic. It's also something that is better understood by doing rather than reading about it (acting, I mean), but if you do want to discuss it, let me know :).

I think you're talking about what NLP would call a strong frame or congruence.

In real life it doen't have much to do with honesty, it has more to do with a kind of pig-headed expectation that people will believe it. It can be strengthened by surrouning yourself with suckers who worship you, and weakened by contact with people who treat you like shit.

People who can lie and deny with congruence and strong frame are very good at harassing others into mental breakdowns. A person with a lot of life experience will find them repulsive.

[seaweed]

I think you're talking about what NLP would call a strong frame or congruence.

In real life it doen't have much to do with honesty, it has more to do with a kind of pig-headed expectation that people will believe it. It can be strengthened by surrouning yourself with suckers who worship you, and weakened by contact with people who treat you like shit.

People who can lie and deny with congruence and strong frame are very good at harassing others into mental breakdowns. A person with a lot of life experience will find them repulsive.

I know very little about NLP, as it has always struck an uneasy chord with me. Some acting coaches use NLP techniques, but they seem to have a 'cultish' vibe, so I have tended to avoid them.

I can certainly relate to what you're saying. I've met a few people who can 'lie... with congruence', and they have largely been borderline psychopaths.

And yes, it's true people with life experience will be repulsed by them, but in my naive youth, I have fallen victim to them on occasion (home life and career ruined, but now thankfully rebuilt now psychos are out of the picture). But not any more. I can spot them a mile away now.

[mightiswrong]

I do think that the poem Jessica wrote contains very deep understanding of the inner child and it is amazing in how it relates to the ringing cedars.

The little boy grew into a big boy and went back to his cherry tree
He had a bag of cherries he bought from the store in hand
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29488

I love trees and feel like that is my inner child speaking. Trees are beautiful and I think we should all have a family tree to love. Trees will you help us oh please.

[mrindigo]

But I guess my point is that we are all special and unique in our own way. We all have different things to contribute to humanity that is very needed and valued.

The problem in society today is people are taught that they do not matter. And this is a tragedy. We are all treasured souls and all have gifts to offer to the world. It's not just for the "crystal children' to tell us this.

We all matter. We are not all the same but we all have gifts that are resident inside us that are needed in this world today.

This illusionary world fostered and promoted by the elite, lies to us and highly values what "it" places a value upon. But this is a lie. In truth, everyone has something to offer when they are taught to let their light shine, and to not be afraid.

Bravo!

I agree with you completely, Amethyst. This whole crystal child, star seed, Indigo things are really just terms for people who loosely fit a particular social mold. In truth, everyone alive is potentially a Crystal child, Star seed, or Indigo. What determines this are the choices we make in life, and understanding those choices which brought us to the present day.

We're products of our mental, physical, and spiritual interactions; and we're manifested adaptations of this. How we end out is entirely up to how we choose to be on the subconscious level. This is why some people are better at fixing things, and others are better at art. So yes, we're all potentially special in some way, and a person does not need some superficial limiting title which applies to everyone, and yet no one, to do it and be it. If anyone else would like to refer to themselves as these titles under the disillusionment that they're different, they can have it, but others know better. It seems to me to be more of a badge of honor to walk around and introduce one's self as such. A truly enlightened one would not need this self esteem boosting social title, because such things are trivial.

Now anticipating a response to my post based on my screen name, "But your screen name is MrIndigo...idiot! Clearly you do believe that Indigos, star seeds, and Crystal children aren't just social titles for insecure folks...".
To put this simply, I like the color :D Yes, that's right, I just like the color. Not everything in life has to be complicated. ;)

[mrindigo]

She struck me as having a 'red light reaction', when a person knows they are on camera or mic. Well presented, smooth, facial expressions, the way the body is held, intonation. Either she has been trained or is emulating people being interviewed on television. That initial impression dismisses the whole thing for me.

I noticed this too. I've noticed quite a few videos in which people seemed almost robotic like she was. I'm reminded of a video I saw of a young girl with an amazing Artistic ability who claimed it was a gift from god. When she started talking about her interactions, it seemed almost like the words of a child who's desperately trying to hold on to her belief in Saint Nick/Santa; like she was trying to convince herself as well as the viewers. It's interesting to see these reactions from an indifferent sociological view.

[romas]

But I guess my point is that we are all special and unique in our own way. We all have different things to contribute to humanity that is very needed and valued.

We all matter. We are not all the same but we all have gifts that are resident inside us that are needed in this world today.

This illusionary world fostered and promoted by the elite, lies to us and highly values what "it" places a value upon. But this is a lie. In truth, everyone has something to offer when they are taught to let their light shine, and to not be afraid.



Well that clearly contradicts with the whole "anti illiminata" frame of thinking on this forum, those "elite" people are not so special and really not needed(referring to all the radical slogans).






The problem in society today is people are taught that they do not matter. And this is a tragedy. We are all treasured souls and all have gifts to offer to the world. It's not just for the "crystal children' to tell us this.



Yes but then the teachers are bad and we must get rid of them *cough* see what I mean :D

[amethyst]

Bravo!

I agree with you completely, Amethyst. This whole crystal child, star seed, Indigo things are really just terms for people who loosely fit a particular social mold. In truth, everyone alive is potentially a Crystal child, Star seed, or Indigo. What determines this are the choices we make in life, and understanding those choices which brought us to the present day.

We're products of our mental, physical, and spiritual interactions; and we're manifested adaptations of this. How we end out is entirely up to how we choose to be on the subconscious level. This is why some people are better at fixing things, and others are better at art. So yes, we're all potentially special in some way, and a person does not need some superficial limiting title which applies to everyone, and yet no one, to do it and be it. If anyone else would like to refer to themselves as these titles under the disillusionment that they're different, they can have it, but others know better. It seems to me to be more of a badge of honor to walk around and introduce one's self as such. A truly enlightened one would not need this self esteem boosting social title, because such things are trivial.

Now anticipating a response to my post based on my screen name, "But your screen name is MrIndigo...idiot! Clearly you do believe that Indigos, star seeds, and Crystal children aren't just social titles for insecure folks...".
To put this simply, I like the color :D Yes, that's right, I just like the color. Not everything in life has to be complicated. ;)

Haha yes, and I love the color purple (obviously) :D I agree with what you wrote. You explained it much better than I!

[amethyst]

Well that clearly contradicts with the whole "anti illiminata" frame of thinking on this forum, those "elite" people are not so special and really not needed(referring to all the radical slogans).

But there has been the buying into the "illuminati mindset", that has kept individuals suppressed, confused and fearful.

There is a better way, as Icke has also pointed out.

[romas]

But there has been the buying into the "illuminati mindset", that has kept individuals suppressed, confused and fearful.

There is a better way, as Icke has also pointed out.



I know :) I'm just trying to see responses and maybe show to people where all this negativity and blame-game fails.

[2013]

"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.

It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.
We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant,gorgeous, handsome, talented and fabulous?

Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of God.
Your playing small does not serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God within us.
It is not just in some; it is in everyone.

And, as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.

As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others".

Well said or typed , but the meaning and sentiment is spot on , i can see you shining from here :D

[lostinstrangeworld]

Well said or typed , but the meaning and sentiment is spot on , i can see you shining from here :D

Compliments to Marriam Williamson....plus a wee mouse that allows me to copy and paste :D:D

[deathcultreject]

I know very little about NLP, as it has always struck an uneasy chord with me. Some acting coaches use NLP techniques, but they seem to have a 'cultish' vibe, so I have tended to avoid them.

I can certainly relate to what you're saying. I've met a few people who can 'lie... with congruence', and they have largely been borderline psychopaths.

And yes, it's true people with life experience will be repulsed by them, but in my naive youth, I have fallen victim to them on occasion (home life and career ruined, but now thankfully rebuilt now psychos are out of the picture). But not any more. I can spot them a mile away now.

Sorry to hear about your younger nievety and it's cost.

As for MPD,

Alters form out of a battery of abuse, and they can immitate aspects of abusers such as a strong 'frame' when decieving (for instance) so an alter could look more authorative and authentic than the main personality which has been ground down and made to doubt itself.

I warn people not to talk to my alters because I'm worried that they might spread toxins (for want of a better word) from sociopaths. (Also because I don't want to have words put in my mouth and then get misrepresented)

[beldazar]

Have you ever considered the info dis info link to trying to plant the idea that autism is related to vaccines ? while we know they fill us full of crap thru them , maybe they are aware of an emerging new phase and dont want us and future humans being any more psychic as it would expose them . Maybe thats the very reason for poisoning the children in the first place. Just a thought . But the children coming here now do to me at least seem far more aware intelligent loving psychic as well as the downsides to these traits .Perhaps some of the parents are just doing a better job at allowing the children more freedom and awareness and not suppressing them like we where . As in theres no such thing as invisible friends , fairies etc . :D

short answer, no.

[deathcultreject]

I hear you Amethyst and Mrindigo.

Labels can be restrictive categories, and they can lead to restrictive egos and restrictive pack behaviour to enforce the restrictions.

On the other hand, a label might motivate someone to live up to it better and meditate more, etc. etc.

[deathcultreject]

An actor who is not fully 'in character' will be unconvincing in the same way that a basically truthful person will be an unconvincing liar, because they don't truly believe what they are saying; and it's not about the standard body language cues which, as you say, are easily rigged or misinterpreted.

It's not easy to describe without hijacking the thread and taking it completely off-topic. It's also something that is better understood by doing rather than reading about it (acting, I mean), but if you do want to discuss it, let me know :).

I'm not sure that it is off topic.

The lady in the clip claims to channel, and I find that channeling isn't just like hearing a voice in your head.

Channeling can send you pictures, feelings, scenarios, graphs, changes of context or dimensions, etc. and it can also send stuff to do with identity, or sense of identity, and it can send you training (for want of a better word) which is like a download for adding new behavior patterns.

In the clip, the lady appears to be sending out some kind of training for how people can respond to the experiences that she has had.

So when she talks about uncertainty, she says mmmm, yeah, after she's said something, as if she's encouraging people to be supportive about such things.

When she talks about killing her father with accidental magic, her voice becomes incredably soothing, as if she's advising a lot of sympathy and comfort for people who believe that they might have sent out bad stuff whilst they were awakening.

I can see why it makes her presentation look conflicted, but I took it to mean that she was talking on different levels at the same time.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I'm sure Jessica spent incredibly less time thinking about what answers she would give than people are spending analyzing her and trying to tare her apart.

Could it simply be that she is a genuine person....appearing slightly nervous at the beginning, but overall, speaking her truth from her heart?

My own feelings from this girl were at the very start skeptical, but as I went on and listened I could see that the experiences she has lived through have made her anything but insincere.

True, to call yourself as crystal child and such might be a limited form of label, but she even goes into that herself. I think there are times when such labels can serve as a quick means to an end, and I think there is some truth in people being born with a new wave of consciousness anyway....many people.

I don't think Jessica comes across to me as egotistic. A little shy/ awkward......yes.

She is just a young lady trying to play her part and do something useful in the world.

Why we can't leave it at that and feel the need to pick it all apart.....I don't know. :rolleyes:

There's too much cynicism around.....I don't just mean here, but in general....everywhere.

I think it's sad.

I think we should "return to innocence".

:(

[deathcultreject]

I'm not trying to be sceptic.

I'm trying to understand things better by listening to more than one view.

I do have a very sceptical bee in my bonnet, and that's to do with the fact that severe child abuse can be disguised as alien abduction etc. with false memories.

That doesn't mean that all alien contact is just a smoke screen.

Channeling and telepathy with aliens is very plausable, but I tend to believe that people pick up on a bigger field of living information and magic, and then put a filter on it by calling it Pliedies or Odin, etc.

[deathcultreject]

I dont want to be around when this kind of creature like indigo or even worse, crystal person gets to a power. I still like living out of terror in the world wheres everything is controlled.

I have personal experiences with indigo children and it was no good! Hope here is eyes who can look an energetical picture.

I'm quite intrigued by your response, ladypagan.

The general pattern seems to be that men are getting entranced and protective, and women are rolling their eyes and saying 'here we go again'

But with the women, it's not just jealousy, and with the men it's not just sex.

You however seem to think she's inhuman and dangerous.

Can you be clear about your impressions please?

Center and focus please etc.

Who knows, you might turn out to be the voice of sanity that saves the world from a new peril.

[beldazar]

short answer, no.

Ok 2013, now my long answer (sorry, I was just about to go out)

Yes I have no doubt that vaccinations, food additives, flouride, aspartame,. gm foods ELF waves etc...are to stop the new vibrations being emitted from the galactic centre and affecting our chakra system. I feel autism is a result of this not the reason for doing it.

Take a look at someone with full-blown autism, they quite often have a gift, be it photographic memory, amazing feats with numbers etc...these are mind constructs, nothing to do with consciousness.

Mind-control victims often have some special ability according to DI's book The Biggest Secret and he makes reference to a photographoc memory.

So....as far as I believe, autistic children. many of them gifted, maybe they have an overdeveloped left brain.
In this society its recognised as a good thing.

I have given my take on the subject in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59343

[deathcultreject]

I suspect that mind control survivers special abilities might get a bit exaggerated sometimes.

The term 'High Functioning Multiple Personality Disorder' doesn't mean the same kind of standards as 'High Functioning Autism'

I have been mistaken for a high functioning autist a few times because of lucky guesses, or being a 'walking encyclopedia', but I don't think I'm up to the demanding levels of a superspy or a black ops person. It's more to do with finding things easier if I switch off emotions and concentrate on facts etc. instead.

My photographic memory started fading after I turned 30.

I gradualy drew less scetches when I was much younger, because it became apparent that even though I'd always been technicaly good like a photo copier, I tended to draw disturbing things where people looked soul-less or terrified.

[beldazar]

I suspect that mind control survivers special abilities might get a bit exaggerated sometimes.

The term 'High Functioning Multiple Personality Disorder' doesn't mean the same kind of standards as 'High Functioning Autism'

I have been mistaken for a high functioning autist a few times because of lucky guesses, or being a 'walking encyclopedia', but I don't think I'm up to the demanding levels of a superspy or a black ops person. It's more to do with finding things easier if I switch off emotions and concentrate on facts etc. instead.

My photographic memory started fading after I turned 30.

I gradualy drew less scetches when I was much younger, because it became apparent that even though I'd always been technicaly good like a photo copier, I tended to draw disturbing things where people looked soul-less or terrified.


That sounds really interesting. do you have any you could put up here?

[deathcultreject]

That sounds really interesting. do you have any you could put up here?

Not much probably, but I've found something that escaped my zeal for shredding and burning things. I think it's still around because there was a reoccuring image that haunted me.

The images of technology show that it was from 3 decades or more ago, so I was probably around 9 years old or younger.

There's attention to repetative detail like a savant, but a savant would have achieved better memory of angles, trigonometry, and stuff like that, as if they're more connected to the motor brain.

It's a bit like I wanted to draw like a machine but wasn't quite good enough.

I'd better keep the images offline, because there are haunting visions from my childhood involved, and that's exactly the kind of thing that stalkers want for developing triggers.

[beldazar]

You sound like you have had an interesting time Deathcultreject! :eek:

[deathcultreject]

You sound like you have had an interesting time Deathcultreject! :eek:

Perhaps. Too much stress to remember all at once, anyway.

oO( nice thoughts about hugs ;) )

[beldazar]

Perhaps. Too much stress to remember all at once, anyway.

oO( nice thoughts about hugs ;) )


:) Yeah, hugs, such a cure-all ;)

[musti]

i do agree there is a possibility that higher dim. entities are being reincarnated on earth in big numbers to help the so-called transition... if this is true i think these entities (now humans) must have a strong aversion to being part of a group or being labeled in any group be it indigo, crystal, or whatever. i wouldn't expect to see these people in any of the new age group meetings or star child group meetings, or come out as "i am an indigo child" and give interviews.

[lakkimakki]

i dont think shes made from crystal !! :D

[mauviene]

What the hell is a crystal child anyways.

[lakkimakki]

http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html

[mauviene]

http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html

Sounds like a load of shit to me..like usual:rolleyes:

[2013]

Ok 2013, now my long answer (sorry, I was just about to go out)

Yes I have no doubt that vaccinations, food additives, flouride, aspartame,. gm foods ELF waves etc...are to stop the new vibrations being emitted from the galactic centre and affecting our chakra system. I feel autism is a result of this not the reason for doing it.

Take a look at someone with full-blown autism, they quite often have a gift, be it photographic memory, amazing feats with numbers etc...these are mind constructs, nothing to do with consciousness.

Mind-control victims often have some special ability according to DI's book The Biggest Secret and he makes reference to a photographoc memory.

So....as far as I believe, autistic children. many of them gifted, maybe they have an overdeveloped left brain.
In this society its recognised as a good thing.

I have given my take on the subject in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59343

Thanks for the reply i can hardly understand what i wrote now anyhow ! it was late , but yes i think you covered it well . I am against vaccination of al lsorts .I had over 18 filings in my mouth as a child ! and im sure my teeth were not that bad at all another form of poisining us . :D

[beldazar]

Thanks for the reply i can hardly understand what i wrote now anyhow ! it was late , but yes i think you covered it well . I am against vaccination of al lsorts .I had over 18 filings in my mouth as a child ! and im sure my teeth were not that bad at all another form of poisining us . :D


too right! Ive had a few teeth fall out with filllings, luckily they were me wisdom ones!!! The dentist cant work out why Im pleased of the fact :D

[puzzle pieces]

David Icke should watch this...

I don't think David Icke would give a shit.

[deathcultreject]

I don't think David Icke would give a shit.

What a nasty thing to say.

Just because David invites the people of Britain to forgive ourselves for treating him like a joke . . .

. . . that doesn't mean that he wouldn't apreciate some positive feedback.

[brucef]

Hello all,

Well I read through all 22 pages of replies here and watched Jessica's videos on her home site before commenting. I am nothing if not thorough before daring to voice a fairly critical opinion.

First off let me say that I think Jessica is probably a very nice person and for the most part honest in that she believes what she says. I have previously had a very brief exchange with her via FB. If we were to go out for dinner with her and avoid the topics mentioned in her interview I expect she would be pleasant, friendly, charming and interesting. I also suspect that if we turned the conversation to Indigos or aliens we would quickly start to imagine ramming a pie in her face or start looking expectantly at our watches.

I often feel there is much truth in the childhood saying,"takes one to know one."

So then I am perhaps especially skilled in breaking down my dear spiritual sisters Crystal-ness.

Just to clarify why I say this (not to self-promote) let me give a very brief self history (readers of my Blog will know I avoid this) as pertinent here.

I began researching the mystery topics at ten years old, by 15 had developed spontaneous telepathy, by 20 was a a medium, by 25 had devoured an enormous catalogue of philosophy, occult, conspiracy etc. and just over 30 began the Blog which is now the UK's top ranked 2012 site. [This is a very condensed version to say the least]

Unsurprisingly I have been recognised as an Indigo countless times. After all I am so darn special how could I not be one? lol

The video makes several things clear, however I am here also keeping in mind the other videos she made, the Nexus/Camelot back story, and her homepage.

First off lets drop the perhaps she is just shy theory in regards to her manner and behaviour in the interview.

She was at a big conference with big names speaking and went crying her eyes out to the Camelot team to get them to interview her because she had a special message for the world. That sound far more like attention seeking or emotional manipulation than shyness. A shy person would of at best cried in the toilet wishing they were brave enough to say something.

Ok so what, I am not totally against using intelligence or drama to get some media exposure for a worthy message. Shy she is not though.

We are told she is an actor and several actors in this thread recognise acting techniques used by her. I can't say I would 100% know the difference between an alter and an actor so will assume they are right and what we see here is largely acting and some genuine expression. That said she did go through a chain of very traumatic events that left her like an 'empty vessel' then a guiding voice stepped in, so I won't discount full on brainwashing as possible. For the moment acting is easier for most of us to except (after all she says she is an actor).

Is the message worthy of her guilt trip to get on Camelot?

Quite clearly it is not. At the very best it lets people know that some young people are into the whole new-age or new consciousness movement, mildly useful I suppose.
Apart from that she just waffles for about 45 minutes of the interview without saying anything usable, helpful, informative or verifiable. She also speaks in incredibly arrogant format (like most 'Indigos') where she just states opinion as fact whilst offering no explanations or sources.

For example she says that mediums only talk to spirits that have not crossed over and her sister was a super special different spirit. Ok well I guess all the other mediums are full of shat then?
In fact there is good reason to believe mediumship is far more complex than just people talking to dead people (that's another story).

Well lets get to the crux of my issues with all this material and the overwhelming questions needing to be resolved.

So her dad got into some pretty weird stuff (no problem with that as so am I) and due to this she to was introduced to it as well. Then someone who obviously knew her dad was into this stuff, and that she was open to it, turned up and gave her a bag full of conspiracy videos. They knew all about her family not just as though it was a psychic event and that they had picked up on her name (was her dad in a cult or organisation?).

Her dad was apparently chipped by the Government/aliens amongst other interesting nuggets. The beings that Jessica channelled were shifty sorts avoiding revealing who or what they were and she lists several forms they pretended to take (from greys to ascended masters). It also sounds like they killed her father when she accidentally asked them to do so at chrimbo dinner. Jessica certainly seems to feel that on some level as she still appears to feel guilty, and admitted that for a while she would not speak to the entities. I think we all probably found it odd that her dad was killed in the same way numerous truth tellers have been murdered, a brain embolism (implant remotely exploded?).

What kind of entities would kill a young girls dad for chrimbo?
If they did not and are good guys, why did they not beam a message telling her it was not her fault?

Though some here mention that she admits Indigo or Crystal is just a label I think it is important that she went on the show as definitively being a Crystal Child. She was obviously happy with the title being 'a crystal child speaks out'. This position is reiterated on her own home site. Lets not avoid that this is core to her 'mission' whatever that ends up as.

Just a quick note as well about the source of most of her information, it is interesting that when she denies having learnt from books or the web she looks at the floor so we cant see her face/eyes.

I like the way that when asked about the entities having proof they are real she compares their reality with Luke Skywalker. If I went on tv and said I bring the wisdom I channel from Luke Skywalker people would be bemused. She should seek some validation that these are not just imagination-land characters or something even darker.

It was also an obvious nonsense for her to state as fact she had only ever had one life in Atlantis and one in France (adding some fluffy waffle afterwards). You either except we have been reincarnating for aeons or you do not.

Though I know that the NWO are part of us in fundamental reality I think we mostly realise that 'the game' here is to grow by defeating their plans. I found it distasteful that her final conclusion was they were doing a great service. What about the immense suffering they cause real people. How come monks have been able to gain enlightenment without being tortured by the NWO for several millennia?

It was the kind of message I would want my controlled tool to end on if I was a CIA handler.

Now let me add the final and most important take on this I can offer.

As an 'Indigo' by suggested characteristics, aura colour, psychic ability and multiple recognition (even been part of an Indigo cult), I want to expressly state that the entire Indigo Children movement (and all crystal, starseed, octarine spin off), is a CIA NWO creation. 100% factual not just my opinion. I wholey distance myself from it, despite matching all it criteria and see it as only harmful to mankind future.

I have recently completed a laborious investigation of the subject to help free others from that divisive, exclusive, culturally supremacist mind set. It was initiated by shady figures and is still guided by shady figures. It is no coincidence that all the main guru/teachers in the Indigo movement are entity channels. Who are they really hearing?

Before jumping all over me please, please take the time to read the entire article from the link pasted below and click on the many embedded links to validate what I am revealing. These youths calling themselves 'Indigo's' and 'Crystals' etc. are indeed part of the generation destined to help free humanity but have been cleverly subverted and need your help.

http://2012rising.com/article/the-indigo-aura-children-new-age-confusion-delusion-conspiracy

Nice chatting to you good folks I hope I did not piss on anyone's bonfire.

Many blessings of pixie moonshine starbursts

Bruce Fenton
[The evil mastermind behind 2012Rising.com]

P.s. Come on guys she is not that great looking, not bad, but not great.;)

[brucef]

If any of you are still sceptical that her 'mission' is almost entirely to push the whole Indigo & Crystal movement agenda please click on her recent bbsradio.com interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ilLwojq_Hk

A few real facts on psychic children and a whole lot of CIA Indigo mumbo jumbo.

[darketernal]

brucef, I concur, the indigo/crystal child agenda is a psyop project.

[amethyst]

Hello all,

Well I read through all 22 pages of replies here and watched Jessica's videos on her home site before commenting. I am nothing if not thorough before daring to voice a fairly critical opinion.

First off let me say that I think Jessica is probably a very nice person and for the most part honest in that she believes what she says. I have previously had a very brief exchange with her via FB. If we were to go out for dinner with her and avoid the topics mentioned in her interview I expect she would be pleasant, friendly, charming and interesting. I also suspect that if we turned the conversation to Indigos or aliens we would quickly start to imagine ramming a pie in her face or start looking expectantly at our watches.

I often feel there is much truth in the childhood saying,"takes one to know one."

So then I am perhaps especially skilled in breaking down my dear spiritual sisters Crystal-ness.

Just to clarify why I say this (not to self-promote) let me give a very brief self history (readers of my Blog will know I avoid this) as pertinent here.

I began researching the mystery topics at ten years old, by 15 had developed spontaneous telepathy, by 20 was a a medium, by 25 had devoured an enormous catalogue of philosophy, occult, conspiracy etc. and just over 30 began the Blog which is now the UK's top ranked 2012 site. [This is a very condensed version to say the least]

Unsurprisingly I have been recognised as an Indigo countless times. After all I am so darn special how could I not be one? lol

The video makes several things clear, however I am here also keeping in mind the other videos she made, the Nexus/Camelot back story, and her homepage.

First off lets drop the perhaps she is just shy theory in regards to her manner and behaviour in the interview.

She was at a big conference with big names speaking and went crying her eyes out to the Camelot team to get them to interview her because she had a special message for the world. That sound far more like attention seeking or emotional manipulation than shyness. A shy person would of at best cried in the toilet wishing they were brave enough to say something.

Ok so what, I am not totally against using intelligence or drama to get some media exposure for a worthy message. Shy she is not though.

We are told she is an actor and several actors in this thread recognise acting techniques used by her. I can't say I would 100% know the difference between an alter and an actor so will assume they are right and what we see here is largely acting and some genuine expression. That said she did go through a chain of very traumatic events that left her like an 'empty vessel' then a guiding voice stepped in, so I won't discount full on brainwashing as possible. For the moment acting is easier for most of us to except (after all she says she is an actor).

Is the message worthy of her guilt trip to get on Camelot?

Quite clearly it is not. At the very best it lets people know that some young people are into the whole new-age or new consciousness movement, mildly useful I suppose.
Apart from that she just waffles for about 45 minutes of the interview without saying anything usable, helpful, informative or verifiable. She also speaks in incredibly arrogant format (like most 'Indigos') where she just states opinion as fact whilst offering no explanations or sources.

For example she says that mediums only talk to spirits that have not crossed over and her sister was a super special different spirit. Ok well I guess all the other mediums are full of shat then?
In fact there is good reason to believe mediumship is far more complex than just people talking to dead people (that's another story).

Well lets get to the crux of my issues with all this material and the overwhelming questions needing to be resolved.

So her dad got into some pretty weird stuff (no problem with that as so am I) and due to this she to was introduced to it as well. Then someone who obviously knew her dad was into this stuff, and that she was open to it, turned up and gave her a bag full of conspiracy videos. They knew all about her family not just as though it was a psychic event and that they had picked up on her name (was her dad in a cult or organisation?).

Her dad was apparently chipped by the Government/aliens amongst other interesting nuggets. The beings that Jessica channelled were shifty sorts avoiding revealing who or what they were and she lists several forms they pretended to take (from greys to ascended masters). It also sounds like they killed her father when she accidentally asked them to do so at chrimbo dinner. Jessica certainly seems to feel that on some level as she still appears to feel guilty, and admitted that for a while she would not speak to the entities. I think we all probably found it odd that her dad was killed in the same way numerous truth tellers have been murdered, a brain embolism (implant remotely exploded?).

What kind of entities would kill a young girls dad for chrimbo?
If they did not and are good guys, why did they not beam a message telling her it was not her fault?

Though some here mention that she admits Indigo or Crystal is just a label I think it is important that she went on the show as definitively being a Crystal Child. She was obviously happy with the title being 'a crystal child speaks out'. This position is reiterated on her own home site. Lets not avoid that this is core to her 'mission' whatever that ends up as.

Just a quick note as well about the source of most of her information, it is interesting that when she denies having learnt from books or the web she looks at the floor so we cant see her face/eyes.

I like the way that when asked about the entities having proof they are real she compares their reality with Luke Skywalker. If I went on tv and said I bring the wisdom I channel from Luke Skywalker people would be bemused. She should seek some validation that these are not just imagination-land characters or something even darker.

It was also an obvious nonsense for her to state as fact she had only ever had one life in Atlantis and one in France (adding some fluffy waffle afterwards). You either except we have been reincarnating for aeons or you do not.

Though I know that the NWO are part of us in fundamental reality I think we mostly realise that 'the game' here is to grow by defeating their plans. I found it distasteful that her final conclusion was they were doing a great service. What about the immense suffering they cause real people. How come monks have been able to gain enlightenment without being tortured by the NWO for several millennia?

It was the kind of message I would want my controlled tool to end on if I was a CIA handler.

Now let me add the final and most important take on this I can offer.

As an 'Indigo' by suggested characteristics, aura colour, psychic ability and multiple recognition (even been part of an Indigo cult), I want to expressly state that the entire Indigo Children movement (and all crystal, starseed, octarine spin off), is a CIA NWO creation. 100% factual not just my opinion. I wholey distance myself from it, despite matching all it criteria and see it as only harmful to mankind future.

I have recently completed a laborious investigation of the subject to help free others from that divisive, exclusive, culturally supremacist mind set. It was initiated by shady figures and is still guided by shady figures. It is no coincidence that all the main guru/teachers in the Indigo movement are entity channels. Who are they really hearing?

Before jumping all over me please, please take the time to read the entire article from the link pasted below and click on the many embedded links to validate what I am revealing. These youths calling themselves 'Indigo's' and 'Crystals' etc. are indeed part of the generation destined to help free humanity but have been cleverly subverted and need your help.

http://2012rising.com/article/the-indigo-aura-children-new-age-confusion-delusion-conspiracy

Nice chatting to you good folks I hope I did not piss on anyone's bonfire.

Many blessings of pixie moonshine starbursts

Bruce Fenton
[The evil mastermind behind 2012Rising.com]

P.s. Come on guys she is not that great looking, not bad, but not great.;)

This is a very well written post. Thank you for sharing from your vantage point. It makes a lot of sense.

You have a very interesting website. Funny, just recently I was writing also about the Native Americans and their prophecies. Seems a bit synchronistic ;) I have some Cheyenne ancestry and have been reading about Native American history.

[brucef]

Hi Amethyst,

That is very cool to hear I always love a good synchronicity. Actually it kind of helps make my point. Here we are two people that are not controlled by CIA handlers able to experience that natural synchronistic mystical flow of the Universe. Why?

Because our heads are not full of crap from NWO beam weapons thats why!

lol ok that's just my subjective opinion but I do think it shows we are at least in the right place at the right time meeting the right people. If either of us was a traitor to humanity I doubt the universe would waste a sync on us.

[smiles]

[crystal_ascension]

I love Jessica, she's GREAT! Finally someone who knows about conspiracy stuff who I can relate to (not a middle aged man, no offense to anyone)! She knows a lot, but rather than focussing on the negative aspects, she comes from a spiritual and very uplifting perspective. She sees the bigger picture and realizes the revolution needs to take place in the heart of mankind, first and foremost. Very refreshing! She speaks the things I have always thought but felt too weird/scared about saying. She is a brave girl. I like what she has to say about the Illuminati being a projection of our (One) self. Couldn't agree more. Cool, cool, cool! :cool:

[deathcultreject]

brucef, I concur, the indigo/crystal child agenda is a psyop project.

Does this mean that psyop invented it, or do they just manipulate it?

The blurb says that they're meant to be spiritual warriors liberating humanity from opressive institutions etc. but everyone who's met one seems to think that they're egotistical and destructive.

Are those levels of hype and hypocrisy an indication that something's having it's strings pulled?

[vladmir]

Jessica is great, and her videos have been inspiring to me.
I dont get the over-analysis in some of the preceding posts.....everything cannot be dissected just using the mind, but the ones who only use the mind to guide them will never know this. pity.

[mightiswrong]

It's all very simple. Jessica says in the video just above that Crystal child means one who has balanced all their chakras. Now what could be wrong with that? Maybe it is best to go without these labels but there is a lot of warmth there. Just trust your feelings. It is quite obvious what she is doing and which books she is selling on her website (http://www.jessicamystic.ca/). I suspect we will be seeing a lot more of Jessica in the future.

[mightiswrong]

All of Jessicas poems are on her website. What do you think of this one?
-----------

To Live and be as a Tree

I wonder what compels a tree to branch out in so many different directions?
Is it so excited with being alive?
Being free to explore so many options, so many choices
What a privileged to have free will to have so many options
To stretch out to ensure the spreading of it's wealth
The sharing of the fruit
Sporting proudly the many different race colors in its leaves
In this honest way it's message will be heard from the song of a bird
Wow what a experience to be buried half in darkness and the other half in light
I wonder does the tree think the darkness that it is
buried in is evil like we tend to think?
The tree lives with both in such a harmonious state
This is in fact our fate
To live and be as the tree
I wonder is the tree a silent version of me
Is it showing me what i need to do?
That i should not feel bad of all the places i
stretched myself to
Only to find a dead end
After all was i not able to make such lovely blossoms at the end of every path?
Did not each branch each so seeming dead end in make me into who i am now?
Then should i not be sporting all my life dead ends
proudly?
Is that not what makes the tree so impressive and
useful for all?
Is not this whole planet really just one big tree
And we are all the fruit, blossoms, and leaves?
Some of us bring nutrition some bring beauty and
others shelter
Is not this whole universe a giant tree as well?
Each piece of fruit is a planet and each star is a
flower
---------
http://jessicamystic.ca/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55&Itemid=2

[vladmir]

All of Jessicas poems are on her website. What do you think of this one?
wow, i think that was brilliant!!
I bet somebody will come on and say this poem proves that she is a alien possessed-cia-mindcontrolled-android or something.

[whitewolf]

I watched the interview yesterday but I haven't read all the posts. My feeling is this girl is genuine, her message is of freedom from our prison mind, no judgement and the truth of oneness. In fact her words had me thinking all night, not only thinking but relaxing. Sometimes I'm overwhelmed by the fear and negativity swirling around. Ignoring it is not the answer, only a higher perspective can provide answers and above all reassurance. To me Jessica message is of safety and inspiration to BE the highest expression of our infinite selves. And what a pleasure to hear it from a young person, it gives me great hope for our future.
Keep it up Jessica, and all the other Indigo's and Crystal's out there, or whatever the labels are......... come on and SHINE.
peace and love for ALL :):)

[wazaaap]

i got to 3 mins and stopped it - there is something strange about her - i don't get a good feeling. she should be avoided IMO

[hellosatellites]

ffs, i thought this was going to be a humour thread about spiritual spammers :confused:
The camp title alone is a joke. Though admittedly, it's always a little sad and eerie when a grown up person refers to themselves as 'a child' :eek:
Crystal children, indigio children, this more-special-than-thou new age bimbette...total bullcaca.

[brucef]

[sigh]

Clearly many of you do not have much genuine interest in understanding the conspiracy behind Indigo's and Crystals?

Are you really not bothered that it stems from Dr. Puharich of MKULTRA and the infamous fake channeling cult 'The Nine' which ex-member Uri Gellar has tried himself to warn people about?

Does it not matter that the three original founders of the modern Indigo movement (Lee Carroll, Nancy Ann Tappe, Jan Tober) have recently changed all the statements and now say the Indigo Children are nothing to do with psychic powers, indigo auras or being positive. In fact most 'evolved' children are emotionally unbalanced and some are killing other children?

Is it not suspicious that Dr. Puharich specialised in beaming messages into peoples heads and also invented the tooth implant telecom receiver, and that all of the major Guru/teachers in the Indigo movement claim to be channeling their information from shady sounding entities?

What about the thank the man who literally wrote the book on Indigo's has been a regular at the U.N. society for enlightenment and channels an entity which claims it has surrounded the Earth in an energetic grid and wants us all to accept energetic implants (sounds like a spiritual prison to me). Never mind that he is now attacking the modern form of the Indigo movement he actually created!

If none of that stinks to high heavens then good luck to you, follow these mind control victims to your own sticky ends.

For the rest of you genuinely seeking the truth (or already aware of it) please take the worthwhile time to read the article based on my detailed investigation. Just because nice people tell you sweet little lies, does not mean it is a good idea to buy what they are selling.

http://2012rising.com/article/the-indigo-aura-children-new-age-confusion-delusion-conspiracy

At the end of the day we all have free will and must do what we see fit. Just don't expect me not to say,"I told you so," when it goes horribly, horribly, wrong.

Om Mani Padme Hum

Bruce

[lostinstrangeworld]

Very interesting thoughts, Bruce, I will definitely watch the video on your link when I have more time, I like to look at things from all angles to get a balanced picture.

The only thing I would say against what you've written is I don't quite see the need for the negative sarcasm.

Truly spiritual people endeavor to follow the teachings of compassion in all areas of their lives including speech because they realize that everything we do effects our reality. That is, unless.....we believe in the pyramid structure of things/ survival of the fittest, etc.

I'm probably being over critical because its easy to talk sarcastically if one is in the habit of doing so....you probably didn't mean much by it; it is likely to simply be a habit of yours. :p

[beldazar]

I hear you Bruce and appreciate the information you have given for us.

[hellosatellites]

I hear you Bruce and appreciate the information you have given for us.

+1

and i appreciate your sarcasm bruce :) very refreshing.

[lostinstrangeworld]

To be honest, I never felt comfortable with labels such as Indigos, Starseeds, Crystals, etc.

We are all simply awakening at different rates, some people are naturally gifted in certain areas and intuitive.....and that is that. :cool:

[lostinstrangeworld]

+1

and i appreciate your sarcasm bruce :) very refreshing.

Refreshing?

The world is full of it!

We live in a world where the Simon Cowells are put on a pedestal and the so called "fluffy" people are mocked and condemned!

[romas]

In a way this indigo/crystal thing is same as all the astrological mumbo-jumbo a lot of people just accept, because it's all over the media and makes them feel special, ooh I'm gemini! My planet is Mercury, sort of a role playing game now.

Another chapter in astrotheology possibly?

[lostinstrangeworld]

I'm not sure about astrology either, but I think there must be something in it because it makes sense that the planet's magnetic fields are effecting us here on Earth in some way. And I also think that the ancients knew a lot that we didn't.

[hellosatellites]

Refreshing?

The world is full of it!

We live in a world where the Simon Cowells are put on a pedestal and the so called "fluffy" people are mocked and condemned!

Yeah well, that's the worlds own choice. Personally I don't make a habit out of putting anyone on a pedestal or condeming others - what's the point, we're all equal (i believe). You sound like you don't like simon cowell very much. I'm not a fan either, but i know who i'd rather go for a drink with if the choice is between wicked witty simon cowell and some fluffy boring bastard :)

[lostinstrangeworld]

What about Gordon Ramsay? :p

[hellosatellites]

What about Gordon Ramsay? :p

i said i wouldn't go out for a drink with a fluffy boring bastard didn't i ? :p
even if he has a cute accent :)

[brucef]

Sorry it may not be much of an excuse but I am English. If we English did not have sarcasm I fear we would have no sense of humour at all. :D

You will note that I did not target an individual with the remark but rather a subject. I do not put people down with sarcastic wit (other than my closest friends of course), merely use it to try and add a sesne of comedy to otherwise highly depressing matters.

It is something I have learnt from the Buddhist monks that have helped me over the years. They highly value a sense of humour on the spiritual seekers journey. It can stave off elements of insanity.

Please forgive me if it was taken badly. :(

P.s. I consider the 'Indigos' and 'Crystals' to be my dearest brothers and sisters I love them unconditionally. I came here with them and my heart breaks to see them one by one taken by the dark forces. I beg for your help to free them. Few of the younger intuitives and lightworkers remain free from this scourge. We need help desperately.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Well I'm English too. :rolleyes:

Actually we're from the same county. :p

[brucef]

It is worth adding that many of the 'young intuitives' in our 'special generation' are certainly not children anymore. The people most embedded in the Indigo Delusion Paradigm are around my own age or there abouts. I am 32 the lady in this video is 27. The actual children getting involved can be saved a great deal of longer term misleading and disinfo if we act to assist them now.

I dislike the way people around my age refer to themselves as children, that seems to be another creepy element to this deliberate retardation of people who would otherwise be assisting the freedom movement.

It is the ones around my age that are most dangerous of all. The younger intuitives and truth seekers look to us as potential 'leaders' as we are still within their 'general age group'. Unfortunately the ones this age not selling the Indigo bunkum are fewer in numbers by far now than the alternative, and less vocal.

There are of course some much older people people calling themselves Indigo's. I beleive many do so for fraudulant reasons rather than any true beleif. I say this because they matured before the subject was wide spread and it seems impossible that they were heavily exposed to its indoctrination during formative years. Some may indeed have been suckered in however, I am not saying all are knowingly frauds.

It is people like me that are most dangerous, just like the lady in the video. I am young, friendly, a decent speaker/writer, handsome-ish, extremely knowledgeable of esoteric and supernatural matters. We could certainly both be helpful in brainwashing the young intuitives toward negative ends if directed by a capable handler. We both have after all our own popular web sites that are visited by thousands of seekers every month.

Thoughts?

[romas]

I'm not sure about astrology either, but I think there must be something in it because it makes sense that the planet's magnetic fields are effecting us here on Earth in some way. And I also think that the ancients knew a lot that we didn't.



Same here, it's obvious to me that we're part of the system and it affects us, it's just getting a little bit to much when "special people" "calculate" when you should do your shopping based on these effects, of course they never tell you the how and why it works like that, just give $$$ and put up with belief.

[2013]

The best thing is to develop your own intuition ,and learn to rely on that .Perhaps the older so called Indigo's are using that reference as they are more effected by the color purple which they take to be a more spiritual leaning . I have seen a few Aura photo's with lots of purple in them , mostly small children actually , but then perhaps they all generate more of that feeling . While we dont like labels sometimes we need a point of reference to find common ground , so get bogged down in the label rather than the meaning or message we have .After being "into" these subjects for 30 years i have come to realize over time how much is actually manipulated or controlled by outside forces , and not for the better . Having said that many people Will realize that the children around them now do seem far more aware and advanced in many ways compared to us . This in part could be down to greater stimulus in their environment .I have noticed they are a lot more intuitive and come out with a lot of info that they haven't got access to ,especially telepathy on occasions . Also as well as being extremely loving they can also be the opposite .Maybe they are the ones stood at the crossroads making the decisions for the future :D

[mightiswrong]

"Hi there my name is Jessica and i really wanted to help spread the word on anastasia
so i decided to do that by sharing my own personal story and insights to project camelot
I wore my ringing cedar proudly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg&feature=channel_page

so far i have had over 28,000 hits and then i lead people to my website where i advertise for the ringing cedars of russia series
i am not getting paid to advertise for them
i am doing this cause people need to know about these books
and i am useing the vehicle and audience of something vast like project camelot and coast to coast am to draw millions more to anastasia and her dream

warm embrace in unconditional love
thank you for you being you
jessica an emmissary for Anastasia

we are the answer to our prayers
www.jessicamystic.ca"
http://www.ringingcedarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=853

[lostinstrangeworld]

"Hi there my name is Jessica and i really wanted to help spread the word on anastasia
so i decided to do that by sharing my own personal story and insights to project camelot
I wore my ringing cedar proudly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NEASRRImg&feature=channel_page

so far i have had over 28,000 hits and then i lead people to my website where i advertise for the ringing cedars of russia series
i am not getting paid to advertise for them
i am doing this cause people need to know about these books
and i am useing the vehicle and audience of something vast like project camelot and coast to coast am to draw millions more to anastasia and her dream

warm embrace in unconditional love
thank you for you being you
jessica an emmissary for Anastasia

we are the answer to our prayers
www.jessicamystic.ca"
http://www.ringingcedarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=853

:cool:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57928&highlight=ringing+cedars

[brucef]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/3448949276_8347cde47c.jpg?v=0

Their just here to help...

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/3448949276_8347cde47c.jpg?v=0

Their just here to help...

Lmao! Relent, you cheeky puppy!