Stepford wives

[forza nascosta]

do you think this pic is connected to this video that seems to show her multiple programming breaking down?????????? she says ewww strawberries !!! before breaking down....very weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfJ4quuwwz4

Sounds like Strong Braining or strong brainy or something to me, definitely not strawberries in my opinion.

[kiwimaj]

http://www.myspacechamp.com/graphics/congratulations/congratulations_myspace_graphics_03.gif

Congrats Lostworld on your (post) 100 pages!! I have said it before, and will say it again, it is one of the best threads on the whole forum. So many of us are interested and fascinated by celebrity, I know I am and have been since a kid, but all the things I have found out and through this thread has really opened my eyes.

Keep up the great world Lostworld, and we couldn't have a nicer host for this thread either..you are always kind, thoughtful, welcoming and insightful. Thank you for starting it.

Blessings and long may your thread continue.

:)

[armoured_amazon]

Sounds like Strong Braining or strong brainy or something to me, definitely not strawberries in my opinion.

Someone on youtube says it sounds like "Strong, Britney", which makes sense, but the switch is undeniable, nevertheless.

[forza nascosta]

Someone on youtube says it sounds like "Strong, Britney", which makes sense, but the switch is undeniable, nevertheless.

Ahh that would make more sense. It doesn't sound like strawberries as suggested by another poster.

I agree with you that something isn't at all right with her behaviour though.

[queenofleon]

I was thrilled when her programming broke down and hoped that she would return to the industry with more control but it seems they've clamped down even harder which is very sad.

I think they bribed her with her kids, "behave and you can see them, if you dont you may hear one day they have been in a nasty car crash"

[armoured_amazon]

I think they bribed her with her kids, "behave and you can see them, if you dont you may hear one day they have been in a nasty car crash"

Aw, probably. :(

[deca]

think about it:eek:

[mountain]

Another telling video of Britney..

PT 4 - BRITNEY SPEARS 2006 INTERVIEW BEARS ALL - YouTube

See my thread here on Britney...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19803

[hellosatellites]

it also seems as though the interviewer has been primed with trigger words to set her off crying..........exploiting her even more for tv.:(

Absolutely - we can almost hear the violins in the background!
Anyone feeling a little sensitive about some personal issues would start tearing up/breaking down in you spoke to them the way that *understanding motherly lady* does. "It's been such a hard year for you, hasn't it...the relentless pressures, your relationship not working out bla bla*. Blatant disgusting manipulation.
Britney seems coked up, when she start going 'ooh! (or is that eww?), Hello!' - just manic.
Sad sad sad.

This is my favourite thread :)
Wish i could contribute more, am just reading, stunned and addicted :)

[deca]

I get electronic drugged , then my mind is primed , the people controlling/minoring the media have something like a 2 sec advantage , then they can control/interfere with my hearing, stop/ start so you only here certain key words from other media

its all about "boxing" in your mind "no escape" the "heat on you" ect....

mass trauma ..... "getting the devil of your back"

when you are so stressed out you end up panicking and doing something anything to get in "The media" etc or publicly making some statement

They know some bad news is going to happen(they tell they will) ....fire plane crash ect.....
If you don`t do something then its your fault ect they tell before its hits the main news ect.........you could of saved them ect guilt trauma ect..

[lostworld]

it also seems as though the interviewer has been primed with trigger words to set her off crying..........exploiting her even more for tv.:(

That same interviewer also did a weird interview with Mel Gibson, where it seemed like she wanted "Mad Mel" to come out... :rolleyes:

See if I can find it again...

[lostworld]

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Congrats Lostworld on your (post) 100 pages!! I have said it before, and will say it again, it is one of the best threads on the whole forum. So many of us are interested and fascinated by celebrity, I know I am and have been since a kid, but all the things I have found out and through this thread has really opened my eyes.

Keep up the great world Lostworld, and we couldn't have a nicer host for this thread either..you are always kind, thoughtful, welcoming and insightful. Thank you for starting it.

Blessings and long may your thread continue.

:)

Oh, you're too kind Kiwimaj.
Thank you so much, I'm flattered... :o

It wouldn't be anything without all you great and openminded people though! :)

When I started this thread Faulcon had already warned me what could happen. That there were some really stupid people here, disinfo's and people who just wanna mess with you & debunk. She was of course speaking of her own experience from the PID threads were she - almost - have to fight ignorant people everyday... :(

So I was so pleasantly surprised to find all of you! :)

It's totally ok if not everyone share one's theories but it's not ok - as some people - to be rude and get into personal attacks.
So I'm so glad that we haven't had to deal with that and I hope it can stay that way...

[mountain]

it also seems as though the interviewer has been primed with trigger words to set her off crying..........exploiting her even more for tv.:(


Yea, it seems Britney's alter came in from the words 'break up'... could be triggering.

[lostworld]

Someone on youtube says it sounds like "Strong, Britney", which makes sense, but the switch is undeniable, nevertheless.

Yes, it's really :eek:

[mountain]

Oh, you're too kind Kiwimaj.
Thank you so much, I'm flattered... :o

It wouldn't be anything without all you great and openminded people though! :)

When I started this thread Faulcon had already warned me what could happen. That there were some really stupid people here, disinfo's and people who just wanna mess with you & debunk. She was of course speaking of her own experience from the PID threads were she - almost - have to fight ignorant people everyday... :(

So I was so pleasantly surprised to find all of you! :)

It's totally ok if not everyone share one's theories but it's not ok - as some people - to be rude and get into personal attacks.
So I'm so glad that we haven't had to deal with that and I hope it can stay that way...

Yea I can relate somewhat, I was discouraged when I started my thread 'Who Is MIND CONTROLLED?' but I must say it was a friend that warned me, for very good reasons I may add. My thread did not do as well, I was hoping for it to blossom like this one and the 'Cobain' one.

Personally I feel this needs to be explored as much as possible and I have always been very suspicious of Hollywood, the symbolism involved... I just could not put my finger on it. So I am grateful to you and everyone who are exploring this... so much has been excavated since! :)

[lostworld]

Another telling video of Britney..

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GprUu55Z17Q&feature=related)

See my thread here on Britney...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19803

Hi Mountain :)
I couldn't watch the video for some reason (inactivated?) so I post the full link here just in case, if it's the same problem for others...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GprUu55Z17Q&feature=related

And great that you have that thread! Didn't know that...
Like I've stated here before, miss Britney needs a whole thread of her own... :rolleyes:
Will read thorugh it asap :)

[lostworld]

This is my favourite thread :)
Wish i could contribute more, am just reading, stunned and addicted :)

Thanks hellosatellites,
extra points for you... :)

Don't feel bad for not posting, there is no pressure.
I'm glad you're here :)

[lostworld]

Yea I can relate somewhat, I was discouraged when I started my thread 'Who Is MIND CONTROLLED?' but I must say it was a friend that warned me, for very good reasons I may add. My thread did not do as well, I was hoping for it to blossom like this one and the 'Cobain' one. :)

I recognize the title on that thread. So I know that I've checked it out.
Sorry it didn't work out... :(

Personally I feel this needs to be explored as much as possible and I have always been very suspicious of Hollywood, the symbolism involved... I just could not put my finger on it. So I am grateful to you and everyone who are exploring this... so much has been excavated since! :)

Yes, me too! Didn't now what it was though. And now it's just "everywhere" once you know :rolleyes:
I want to be awake of course, but at the same time it really has destroyed a lot of my love for music etc... :(

As long as we get the word out and express whatever we feel like needs to be put out there, it doesn't matter where/or on what thread.
I'm just glad that Stepford is doing well and that we all can gather here :)

I really try, when somebody hasn't been posting, just to post "whatever" to keep the thread alive and on page one so it doesn't fade away.
It should always be "up there" on page 1 so more people see it... :p

[mountain]

I really try, when somebody hasn't been posting, just to post "whatever" to keep the thread alive and on page one so it doesn't fade away.
It should always be "up there" on page 1 so more people see it... :p

Yea! That's a great idea, I should have done that...:rolleyes:

[deca]

whats easier to swallow ?

Truth or

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/375084929_8b385d795b_m.jpg

It has such meaning and importance , The symbolism so in your face

no its just bollocks

[deca]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:1_W4WIOgeV-UUM:http://www.partywerks.com/inflatables/Twister/Twister.JPG

while

http://www.clipartof.com/images/clipart/xsmall2/19356_bank_robber_carrying_a_money_bag_full_of_cas h_and_holding_a_pistil_while_smoking_a_cigar_after _stealing_from_the_bank.jpg

[mountain]

Speaking of clones, anyone seen this film 'The Island'? Dunno if its been covered yet but the main character played by Ewan McGregor is called Echo...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1193/movieposterqp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lincoln Six Echo and Jordan Two Delta are ignorant cogs in very big wheel who are in peril when they start to question the mechanical new world in which they live. Written by deer (http://www.imdb.com/SearchPlotWriters?deer)

(http://www.imdb.com/SearchPlotWriters?deer)
Lincoln Six-Echo is a resident of a seemingly Utopian but contained facility in the mid 21st century. Like all of the inhabitants of this carefully controlled environment, Lincoln hopes to be chosen to go to the "The Island" - reportedly the last uncontaminated spot on the planet. But Lincoln soon discovers that everything about his existence is a lie. He and all of the other inhabitants of the facility are actually human clones. Lincoln makes a daring escape with a beautiful fellow resident named Jordan Two-Delta. Relentlessly pursued by the forces of the sinister institute that once housed them, Lincoln and Jordan engage in a race for their lives to literally meet their makers. Written by bondish (http://www.imdb.com/SearchPlotWriters?bondish)

(http://www.imdb.com/SearchPlotWriters?bondish)
Lincoln Six Echo is just like everyone else-he's waiting to go to the island-the only place left in the world to actually live a life. Thousands of people stay at a facility waiting to go to the island. It all sounds like paradise but Lincoln Six Echo soon discovers that there's actually a sinister purpose going on at that facility and must escape. Not only that but he also realizes that he must stop the sinister plan going on at that facility. Written by yatessixecho (http://www.imdb.com/SearchPlotWriters?yatessixecho)

(http://www.imdb.com/SearchPlotWriters?yatessixecho)
In 2019, Lincoln Six Echo and Jordan Two Delta are best friends in a repressive and intriguing society, where everybody expects to win the lottery. The prize is to move to a paradisaical island outside the domes that protect the dwellers against the contaminated environment. Jordan wins the lottery, and Lincoln accidentally finds the scary truth behind the Utopian award: they are clones, generated to provide replacement organs and parts to the owners of insurance policy.

The name Echo seems to be used alot.

[deca]

I need meal ticket:confused:

[supertzar]

Regarding Britney, do you think she was replaced cloned or mind controlled? My strong feeling is mind controlled and I think that is fairly obvious. Replaced or cloned, I don't know.

[deca]

shes human being.

[supertzar]

But a replaced, cloned or mind controlled human?

[deca]

don`t you think shes be throw enough ?

when have you seen machines with emotions?

[supertzar]

don`t you think shes be throw enough ?

when have you seen machines with emotions?

I'm not sure what you mean. The thread is about Stepford Wives, who were androids that replaced humans. I am just wondering what the consensus is on this thread about exotic technologies such as cloning and realistic androids. If there were such things, they could probably replicate human emotions and in the case of clones might just have their own. I doubt it is the case with Britney, but I like to keep my mind open.

Or

LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOOONE!!! :p

[humito]

http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/music/images/britney-head-shave.jpg
http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/britney-spears.jpg
http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/2006/images/VforVendetta_1.jpg


N portman receives a good headshaving in V for vendetta as part of trauma based mind control...........do you think that Brittney was just acting out this alter.....if it happened to her........... or do you think it was her programming breaking down?

[humito]

I'm not sure what you mean. The thread is about Stepford Wives, who were androids that replaced humans. I am just wondering what the consensus is on this thread about exotic technologies such as cloning and realistic androids. If there were such things, they could probably replicate human emotions and in the case of clones might just have their own. I doubt it is the case with Britney, but I like to keep my mind open.

Or

LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOOONE!!! :p

what are we in essence but walking biocomputers?

[deca]

http://www.medem.com/medem/images/AMA/ama_brain_overview_lev20_thenervoussystem_01.gif

works like an antenna?

weather Brittney getting hacked or effected I don`t know

[deca]

I'm not sure what you mean. The thread is about Stepford Wives, who were androids that replaced humans. I am just wondering what the consensus is on this thread about exotic technologies such as cloning and realistic androids. If there were such things, they could probably replicate human emotions and in the case of clones might just have their own. I doubt it is the case with Britney, but I like to keep my mind open.

Or

LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOOONE!!! :p


And you are the one trying to make out i am the some looney fan?

you are the one saying shes a robot or been cloned?

I just trying to work out a few things

[hellosatellites]

Yea, it seems Britney's alter came in from the words 'break up'... could be triggering.

Seems that way, yes.

Here's a list of the sequentiel embedded commands the interviwer Barba Walters uses. The whole process is a 3 stage operation, first a priming pattern of defining old identity worded specifically towards breaking Britney down emotionally (she also ends her sentences on a downward volume, which is a wellknown technique to bring people into a hypnotic trance) then secondly B.W gives actual commands to break Britney down, then thirdly - whilst Britney is clearly out of it - B.W applies powerful new commands in the present tense, effectually installing a new identity. We can see how this new take on *reality* totally stuns Britney, as if it is the first time she hears these words.


Anyway, the embedded commands - i've underlined the words that B.W herself emphasized in her speech:

1. You've had a rough year
2. You've had a year that would test a lot of people
3. Illness in the family...

4. Break up!

(here Britneys eyes flicks to the right at the level of audio programming/hearing voices etc - and it is towards that point she later says Eww! (or 'You'?) Hello..)

5. Spasm!

(B.W actually pronounces it Sssspassssm! Anyone familiar with hypnotic language knows the s'sound is the singular most hypnotic sound. Britneys whole body jerks/spasms instantly when B.W says 'spasm')

6. YOU weren't faithful

7. YOU betrayed the relationship

I don't know who this Barbara Walters person is, but if that interview is happening in linear time, she broke down britney in 50 seconds flat. What sort of person in their right minds would continue an interview as if nothing is wrong, when the person in front of you is clearly emotionally upset and out of it to the point of speaking 'in tongues'?? Unless that bit was pieced together to appear incoherent, of course.

[tebby]

Has anyone mentioned the 2004 movie Mean Girls yet?
The main girls are called "The Plastics"
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/raim0007/gwss3307_summer2008/mean_girls.jpg

[tebby]

that's why they call it a celebrity BREAKDOWN.
or has that been mentioned? Probably self explanatory.

[tebby]

But a replaced, cloned or mind controlled human?
Mind Controlled human.

[tebby]

look around you Brain - YouTube

It's a show that's parodies of high school informational videos.
They say something about an EBE, aka an electronic brain enhancement device.

"Tempting isn't it?"

[supertzar]

And you are the one trying to make out i am the some looney fan?

you are the one saying shes a robot or been cloned?

I just trying to work out a few things

No, I am not saying that. I'm just trying to get a sense of what people think.

You have to admit you walked into that leave Britney alone part, though. :o

[howie]

Has anyone mentioned the 2004 movie Mean Girls yet?
The main girls are called "The Plastics"
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/raim0007/gwss3307_summer2008/mean_girls.jpg

Released April 30 - walpurgis

[faulconandsnowjob]

Be careful of Stewart Swerdlow. He's actually a handler. ... He's giving people a sandwich of truth and lies, mostly lies.
That was my take on him - that he's disinfo.

When I started this thread Faulcon had already warned me what could happen. That there were some really stupid people here, disinfo's and people who just wanna mess with you & debunk. She was of course speaking of her own experience from the PID threads were she - almost - have to fight ignorant people everyday...
Yeah, I'm kind of shocked that people seem to be more open-minded to all of this than to the idea that one particular person was replaced. He is probably the poster child for celebrity replacement, tho, since even a lot of the sheeple have heard about PID.

I am just wondering what the consensus is on this thread about exotic technologies such as cloning and realistic androids. If there were such things, they could probably replicate human emotions and in the case of clones might just have their own.
I've read that the original person's mind is somehow downloaded into the clone. Clones supposedly don't have souls.

[siphon880di]

That was my take on him - that he's disinfo.

Thank you. I was worried I'm the only one spoking about Stewart in this light. People won't believe just one person.

[pinkfreud]

I was worried I'm the only one spoking about Stewart in this light.

i've never liked him either- i've said this before, and i'll say this again: something about him creeps me out.

and i know quite a few on here who don't really take to him.

[forza nascosta]

i've never liked him either- i've said this before, and i'll say this again: something about him creeps me out.

and i know quite a few on here who don't really take to him.

Snap! Count me in on that too.

[supertzar]

I've met Stewart and Janet Swerdlow and they were cool as hell. I'm glad everyone has an opinion they are happy with, though. Far be it from me to ask anyone to change their mind.

[hellosatellites]

Just googled Stewart Swerdlow to see what/who he is. What's the big fuzz here? How did this guy ever get an audience? Reading through his course material and some of his articles 'Stewart says...' on his website; Boring and self-absorbed monologues littered with clichees and new age jargon :rolleyes:. Every 10th word is 'I' or 'me'. Literally. That is 10% of his writing :D This is not a guy out to save the world :D
I wanted to dislike him, i wanted to see a proper conspiracy double-agent but i don't get a sinister vibe from him at all - Ok, so Stop! Press! Stewart clearly thinks the current colour and rotation pattern of his pineal gland is the most interesting thing in the world, hahaha - he comes across mainly as the perfect warning about what the combination of excessive self-involvement and a plethora of new age theories can do to a person with too much time on their hands. Add audience, and you have the perfect attention-whore who will say anything to keep the thing rolling. Just booooring.
IMO :p

[supertzar]

That's ironic because he speaks against the new age movement as a creation of the Illuminati all the time and The Healer's Handbook probably doesn't use the word I once..

[hellosatellites]

Different strokes etc :)

I'm just going to trust you on that Healers handbook thing. Don't think i could read another thing of his. Just too boring. Sorry.

[supertzar]

It's so interesting because I find a book like Blue Blood, True Blood endlessly fascinating. Stewart has some info on clones and a ton on mind control. He is one of the most relevant authors to this thread actually.

[hellosatellites]

It's so interesting because I find a book like Blue Blood, True Blood endlessly fascinating. Stewart has some info on clones and a ton on mind control. He is one of the most relevant authors to this thread actually.

sorry. i can't. really. ;)

[supertzar]

If I post some things from SS relevant to the thread you can skip over it - that's fine.

[supertzar]

Here's a quote from Stewart on celebrity doubles. Someone posted it on a PID forum. He takes stock in PID, by the way. I think he is totally wrong on PID, of course. It's probably true about the doubles, though.

Doubles
Posted: September, 02, 2008I was reading somewhere recently that Britney Spears has a double she sends out to fend off the paparazzi, otherwise she could not handle that scrutiny herself.

My question is: Do you celebrities, politicians, and other famous people really use body doubles like that? Kind of reminds me of the movie "Dave", about a U.S. Presidential body double.

Thanks.

Stewart's Reply: Most high level stars and politicians have doubles.

[supertzar]

Someone posting on http://www.mail-archive.com/cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com/msg09178.html wrote


- He said that in Germany in 1925, that was the first Human Clone
Experiment that was ever done!!! He said that the U.S. did their First Clone
in the mid 1960's at Yale, (I think he said Yale)!!!

- He said that Jimmy Carter was a Clone!!!

[mountain]

Another very telling video...weird shit.

This is a home video I found on You Tube of Kirsten Dunst as a child, star of Spiderman and Interview of a Vampire. She says Tom Cruise is weird lol. Anyway, she is clearly pissed off with her parents... they do seem a bit mental.

Kirsten Dunst versus her parents - YouTube
She is another who has had a breakdown in recent years...

[armoured_amazon]

Another very telling video...weird shit.

This is a home video I found on You Tube of Kirsten Dunst as a child, star of Spiderman and Interview of a Vampire. She says Tom Cruise is weird lol. Anyway, she is clearly pissed off with her parents... they do seem a bit mental.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb0-FdGwLM4
She is another who has had a breakdown in recent years...

LOL that's feckin' hilarious, thanks for posting it. Hahahaha, love it. Got to feel sorry for kids with stage parents, though. ROFL when she insists he is weird.

[hellosatellites]

Another very telling video...weird shit.

This is a home video I found on You Tube of Kirsten Dunst as a child, star of Spiderman and Interview of a Vampire. She says Tom Cruise is weird lol. Anyway, she is clearly pissed off with her parents... they do seem a bit mental.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb0-FdGwLM4
She is another who has had a breakdown in recent years...

Oh dear - i nearly barfed with indignation watching that video. I just want to travel back in time, and rescue KD from those awful awful phoney parents with their grating voices. They're like vultures! :eek:
Wow, the creation of a drama-queen...

[amethyst]

Oh dear - i nearly barfed with indignation watching that video. I just want to travel back in time, and rescue KD from those awful awful phoney parents with their grating voices. They're like vultures! :eek:
Wow, the creation of a drama-queen...

What AWFUL parents! :eek: "vultures" is an apt description...NO WONDER the poor girl had to go to rehab :mad:

[faulconandsnowjob]

I was worried I'm the only one spoking about Stewart in this light. People won't believe just one person.
About Stewart Swerdlow, I think he's telling some truth - maybe a lot of truth. I just get some of it isn't true. Use your own intuition about it. I still read his stuff b/c I think there's some valuable info there. I would just double check w/ other sources. I wouldn't rely on him exclusively.

That is interesting he thinks Jimmy Carter is a clone. I have read that GW Bush has been replaced by not 1 but 2 clones! :eek:

[kiwimaj]

Another very telling video...weird shit.

This is a home video I found on You Tube of Kirsten Dunst as a child, star of Spiderman and Interview of a Vampire. She says Tom Cruise is weird lol. Anyway, she is clearly pissed off with her parents... they do seem a bit mental.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb0-FdGwLM4
She is another who has had a breakdown in recent years...

That does not look like Kirsten Dunst, has anyone else not noticed this?? Not only does it not look truly like her, but doesn't sound like here either, this is some sort of joke. Can you not also see how false and made up it all is?? In fact, the voice of the "mother" sounds awfully like the ORIGINAL Kirsten...hmmm...Kirsten and her cronies have been playing a joke here...

I would say this is a set up. There is NO WAY the original Kirsten would talk about Tom Cruise and others like this...anyone who believes this has been taken for a ride.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Kiwimaj, this is what we have to deal w/ all the time on the PID threads. People can't see the difference even tho they have different colored eyes. :eek:

[kiwimaj]

Kiwimaj, this is what we have to deal w/ all the time on the PID threads. People can't see the difference even tho they have different colored eyes. :eek:

..PID threads (??) so you are saying you agree with me??

:confused:

[mountain]

That does not look like Kirsten Dunst, has anyone else not noticed this?? Not only does it not look truly like her, but doesn't sound like here either, this is some sort of joke. Can you not also see how false and made up it all is?? In fact, the voice of the "mother" sounds awfully like the ORIGINAL Kirsten...hmmm...Kirsten and her cronies have been playing a joke here...

I would say this is a set up. There is NO WAY the original Kirsten would talk about Tom Cruise and others like this...anyone who believes this has been taken for a ride.

I know what you mean, but after careful studying, it appears to be her... she has the dimples and everything...

I usually have a sharp eye for detail.

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Yeah, the threads about Paul McCartney being dead & replaced (PID = Paul is Dead). There's an active one here, if you're interested in checking it out: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30205

I don't know enough about Kirsten Dunst to say whether she was replaced or not, but I do know Paul was (& I suspect other celebs as well - possibly Kirsten Dunst). I'm just saying that some people can't tell when someone was replaced even when their eye colors aren't the same. :eek:

[amethyst]

That does not look like Kirsten Dunst, has anyone else not noticed this?? Not only does it not look truly like her, but doesn't sound like here either, this is some sort of joke. Can you not also see how false and made up it all is?? In fact, the voice of the "mother" sounds awfully like the ORIGINAL Kirsten...hmmm...Kirsten and her cronies have been playing a joke here...

I would say this is a set up. There is NO WAY the original Kirsten would talk about Tom Cruise and others like this...anyone who believes this has been taken for a ride.

It's a very YOUNG Kristen. Before she became well known. She was in that vampire movie with Tom Cruise. The title escapes me.

[kiwimaj]

I know what you mean, but after careful studying, it appears to be her... she has the dimples and everything...

I usually have a sharp eye for detail.

..hmmm...sorry, I stand by my original statement, that is NOT kirsten..the voice behind the camera sounds just like Kirsten...

I remember very vividely Kirsten in Interview, and the person in this vid is not her. But, just my opinion.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/050124/19831__interview_l.jpghttp://www.freewebs.com/iwtv/Interview_With_The_Vampire.jpghttp://www.virginmedia.com/images/interview_vampire.jpg

Now

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/kirsten1.jpg

[chipstyxx]

When it comes to eye colour, I think this can be misinterpreted quite easily. When some one has blue or green eyes it is easy for this light colour to absorb whatever is going on around it. So light eyes will look darker in a dark room etc. and brown eyes should not change much at all as they have too much pigment to be affected. I have green eyes myself and have had a few people mistake them for brown in murky conditions. I know this is not a complete scientific explanation but I found a better one on, (that great scientific tome;)) wikipedia
As the perception of color is dependent on viewing conditions (e.g. the amount and type of illumination, as well as the hue of the surrounding environment), so is the perception of eye color.[15]

Here's a picture of Kirsten Dunst from the 'Interview with a Vampire' Film, where her eyes definitely look more blue, especially the left eye which is towards the light source from which the room/set has been lit.

http://www.terra.es/personal/filmes/claudia/claudia.jpg

I would also like to point out that photographs are often manipulated to fit with whatever purpose they are used for. The contrast and tone can be manipulated by anyone who chooses and has the basic software. What results is not a true representation of the the real life image or the colours at the time of shooting.

When it comes to the video that mountain posted, I think that is Kirsten Dunst. There is something weird and 'pretend' about the atmosphere when the recording starts. I am not sure is she is acting or not, or who the 'parents' are. At the end of the video she seems to be very convincing when the father says 'you don't realise how important this is!' and Kirsten (if that's who she really is :D ) screams 'I don't care!'. That says it all really, whatever is going on with the girl in the video, she really doesn't want to play the fame game.

[mountain]

..hmmm...sorry, I stand by my original statement, that is NOT kirsten..the voice behind the camera sounds just like Kirsten...

I remember very vividely Kirsten in Interview, and the person in this vid is not her. But, just my opinion.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/050124/19831__interview_l.jpghttp://www.freewebs.com/iwtv/Interview_With_The_Vampire.jpghttp://www.virginmedia.com/images/interview_vampire.jpg

Now

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/kirsten1.jpg

Its cool... ofcourse you are entitled to state how you perceive the post I made, I just wanted to point out the way the parents (if its real) are behaving and the fact that Kirsten went into 'rehab' recently. Not to mention, she has often stated that she felt she had no childhood due to her acting career.

Now a few things I want to point out about the above pics... Kirsten is dolled and painted which makes a big difference then when you are at home and natural, so its hard to compare. I was weary for a moment but I noticed the girl in the video does have Kirsten's distinctive fanged teeth and dimples.

Now I maybe wrong but I just wanted to contribute a piece i had come across and found it interesting for this thread. Now let's carry on! :)

[hordeari]

this with kirsten is fishy, but not enough nfo to make a proper decision, and reg. paul faul ... so obvious that it's not the same guy after 67, hilarious

haven't been around on di-f for looong time..i dont know why, guess I just got tired of di-foruming :(

..cheers everyone ;)

[reggievandam]

Rihanna -- The Face of a Battered Woman
Posted Feb 20th 2009 5:30PM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has obtained a photo of Rihanna taken after Chris Brown allegedly beat her.



http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating_ex_01.jpg

:mad: :(

Some people also mentioned that she appears to have "Devil horns" on her forehead...CREEPY!!!

Also, Chris Brown is a TOTAL A$$HOLE if he did that to her! P.O.S.!!!


http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/20/rihanna-photo-face-beating/2#comments

[armoured_amazon]

I know what you mean, but after careful studying, it appears to be her... she has the dimples and everything...

I usually have a sharp eye for detail.

I looked carefully and facially the girl may be different but I think she has Dunst teeth?

[hordeari]

thats what u get when playing with the (d)evil ... or have a prick of a boyfriend, could be both :)

[faulconandsnowjob]

When it comes to eye colour, I think this can be misinterpreted quite easily. When some one has blue or green eyes it is easy for this light colour to absorb whatever is going on around it.
Yeah, I know. I have blue/green eyes & they will match pretty much any color of green or blue I wear. However, they will never, ever look hazel or brown. The issue w/ Paul & Faul is that Paul had brown or hazel eyes & Faul had green eyes. Paul's eyes never looked green. Faul's looked brown a lot, but it was prob contacts. A lot of times, he didn't seem to bother w/ them, b/c there are a lot of pics showing his green eyes.

[yeshua]

Pseudo-Occult Media just did made a new blog entry and he mentions more tattoo/slave markings that none of us have picked up on yet.

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/02/imprisoned-kittens.html

[deca]

i am ok

[chipstyxx]

The issue w/ Paul & Faul is that Paul had brown or hazel eyes & Faul had green eyes. Paul's eyes never looked green. Faul's looked brown a lot, but it was prob contacts. A lot of times, he didn't seem to bother w/ them, b/c there are a lot of pics showing his green eyes.
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Faulcon I agree with you there. The point I was getting at was green or blue eyes can look darker depending on the light. Faul has light green eyes and back in the early 60's paul has dark brown eyes. As far as I know dark eye's can't change to light or even look like they have. That one mystery is what convinces me that Paul is a Faul. :D

[supertzar]

Pseudo-Occult Media just did made a new blog entry and he mentions more tattoo/slave markings that none of us have picked up on yet.

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/02/imprisoned-kittens.html

Note she has twin blue birds (Project Bluebird)

Bluebirds are a classic tattoo from the early days of tattooing. Let's not get carried away.

[kiwimaj]

I know this has been posted before, but I saw Yes Man last night and the girl in it (Zooey) I really really thought was Katy Perry...so found these shots and my goodness, they look virtually identical !!

http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/zooeydeschanel/zooey_deschanel_1.jpg


Katy


http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3300000/Katy-Perry-katy-perry-x-3342995-1024-768.jpg

[kiwimaj]

Rihanna -- The Face of a Battered Woman
Posted Feb 20th 2009 5:30PM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has obtained a photo of Rihanna taken after Chris Brown allegedly beat her.



http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating_ex_01.jpg

:mad: :(

Some people also mentioned that she appears to have "Devil horns" on her forehead...CREEPY!!!

Also, Chris Brown is a TOTAL A$$HOLE if he did that to her! P.O.S.!!!


http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/20/rihanna-photo-face-beating/2#comments


..you can see how anyone could easily make the mistake about her not getting to the Grammys because she was "caught in traffic"...yeah right!!!..

I doubt very much if the nasty piece of work that did this to her will get sent down, he will most probably go into "rehab" for reprogramming, along with Rhianna...there will be some sort of statement issued and both will feel the need to go to rehab to sort themselves out and how awful and remorseful Chris will be..blah blah blah..

It's awful but this sort of thing happens all the time in the real world, dreadful as it clearly is.

[mountain]

I know this has been posted before, but I saw Yes Man last night and the girl in it (Zooey) I really really thought was Katy Perry...so found these shots and my goodness, they look virtually identical !!

http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/zooeydeschanel/zooey_deschanel_1.jpg


Katy


http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3300000/Katy-Perry-katy-perry-x-3342995-1024-768.jpg

Yes...I wouldn't be surprised if they are indeed the same perosn....different alters?!

[siphon880di]

Yes...I wouldn't be surprised if they are indeed the same perosn....different alters?!

I know for sure they're different people. The jaw line isn't the same:
Adorable Zooey Deschanel - YouTube

They're both very cute though.

[mountain]

Yea I see what you are saying... it is weird though! I wonder if they both have met each other in person. I met a few ladies that looked exactly like me and it felt awkward...

[kiwimaj]

Yea I see what you are saying... it is weird though! I wonder if they both have met each other in person. I met a few ladies that looked exactly like me and it felt awkward...


..Do ya think Katy would sing (after they met).."I Kissed a Girl and I liked It."....:D

[siphon880di]

..Do ya think Katy would sing (after they met).."I Kissed a Girl and I liked It."....:D

Exactly what I was thinking. She'd probably want to do someone that looks like herself. She's so cute.

[yeshua]

Bluebirds are a classic tattoo from the early days of tattooing. Let's not get carried away.

I wasn't talking about that tattoo, I'm talking about the "sssshhh..." tattoo that all of the girls have. Why do they all have the same tattoo? It's also some of the same girls that share the star tattoo that I posted earlier.

[mountain]

..Do ya think Katy would sing (after they met).."I Kissed a Girl and I liked It."....:D

:D

[faulconandsnowjob]

Do ya think Katy would sing (after they met).."I Kissed a Girl and I liked It."....
She would if she were programmed to! :D

[astrochicken]

Yes...I wouldn't be surprised if they are indeed the same perosn....different alters?!


Isn't this the whole point behind homogenous barbie dolls?

Which, by the way, appear to be getting more creepy alien-like by the year.

[lostworld]

Speaking of clones, anyone seen this film 'The Island'? Dunno if its been covered yet but the main character played by Ewan McGregor is called Echo...


The Island has been mentioned here once before, so that you also post about it must mean that there is something there... :rolleyes:
I really have to see this movie now!

On another island, in the tv-series Lost, there was also a character named Echo... I have no idea what this means though.

[armoured_amazon]

I enjoyed the Island. I have so many DVDs that I never watch more than once because I forget where I stored them lol. I'm copying some over to my ipod, that way I'll watch 'em.

[lostworld]

I'm not sure what you mean. The thread is about Stepford Wives, who were androids that replaced humans. I am just wondering what the consensus is on this thread about exotic technologies such as cloning and realistic androids. If there were such things, they could probably replicate human emotions and in the case of clones might just have their own. I doubt it is the case with Britney, but I like to keep my mind open.

Or

LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOOONE!!! :p

Supertzar, here is an update about Stepfording, clones and synthetics :)

Stepford/"to be Stepforded" (my expression for it) is both about mindcontrol and about cloning/robotoids.


What do I mean by Stepford and "to be Stepforded"?

Since there seems to be some confusion I'm just going to explain my view on this.

If you have seen the movie "Stepford wives" you probably know what I'm talking about. The original movie was made in 1975 and a remake feat. Nicole Kidman was made in 2004.

The story is set in the fictional town of Stepford, Connecticut. The married men in Stepford all have submissive, beautiful and "perfect" wifes.

Joanna (played by Nicole Kidman in the remake) becomes increasingly disturbed by the zombie-like Stepford wives, especially when she sees her once independent-minded friends — fellow new arrivals to Stepford — turn into mindless, docile housewives overnight. Her husband, who seems to be spending more and more time at the local men's club, mocks her fears.

As the story progresses, Joanna becomes convinced that the wives of Stepford are actually look-alike gynoids (robots designed to look like a human female), manufactured in secret at the men's club. She visits the library and reads up on the pasts of Stepford's husbands and wives, finding out that some of the women were once high achievers, while some of the men were brilliant engineers and scientists, capable of creating such life-like robots.

The Stepford Wives
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6850/stepfordswiveskd4.jpghttp://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5498/stepfordwivestm3.jpg

The Stepford Wives 1975 - trailer
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The Stepford Wives 2004 - trailer
Stepford Wives - trailer - YouTube

The Stepford Wives - Stupid girls
The Stepford Wives--Stupid Girls - YouTube


Also bear in mínd that what they show us on the screen in many times often is reality. Fiction is already fact. It is a part of the agenda.
That also makes Stepford interesting. Especially since it was originally made already in 1975. The cloning on humans is supposedly older than that though. ;)


There are four types of ‘clones’ that are used by the Illuminati:

1. Actual Clones
This is a person who has been grown from a test tube (called "in vitro") or implanted womb, which has the identical genetic makeup to another person--an identical twin so to speak in terms of genetic makeup. The genetic coding has reproduced, and a new person who is an identical twin is now in existence.

2. Synthetic People
These are "persons" who look everybit as real as a real person, but simulate human beings. Certain tissues extracted from cattle are the starting point. (This is part of the reason for cattle mutilations.) The process is an advancement of a process discovered in the late 1950’s. This 1959 experiment was reported in a book in 1968 called The Biological Time Bomb by Gordon Rettray Taylor. Taylor describes the experiment done in France, "They had extracted DNA from the cells of the khaki Cam phells and had injected it into the white Pekins, thinking that just possibly the offspring of the latter might show some character derived from khaki Campbells. To their astonishment the actual ducks they injected began to change. Their white feathers darkened, and their necks began to take on the peculiar curve which is a mark of the khaki Campbell." The scientists working under the auspices of the Rothschilds, (who are directed by Satan himself) developed this process by working at secret breakneck speed. They developed an advanced development of the process they discovered with the DNA chicken experiment. By the late 1970’s, synthetic people could be produced by the Illuminati.

3. Organic Robotoids
This is an "artificial life" form that is created through processes that are totally different than cloning or synthetics. Organic robotoid technology is being made to make exact as possible copies of important people such as Presidents and some of their staff. For instance, the Jimmy Carter who came to Portland a few years ago who I stood two feet away from and examined visually was not the Jimmy Carter that had run for President. On Easter, 1979 the first robotoid model of Jimmy Carter replaced the man Jimmy Carter. By the time "Carter" was seen by me, they must have been on at least robotoid no. 100. This is why a friend of mine who was recently in Washington D.C. almost bumped into President Clinton jogging. My friend was surprised by the lack of security. Kaiser Aluminum News which is put out by Kaiser Aluminum & Chemical Corporation put out a series of articles to a specialized audience in the 1960’s. This material was also published under the book title The Dynamics of Change (Prentice-Hall: Englewood Cliffs, N.J., 1967). Under the title heading "GENETIC MANIPULATION" we read, "The ability to control the formation of new beings may be one of the most basic developments of the future. Recent discoveries about the nucleonic acids, the basic building blocks of life, have led to the belief that man may some day be able to treat genes in such a way that desired characteristics can be realized..." Under the heading "MAN-MACHINE SYMBIOSIS" we read, "...Computers exist which can learn, remember, see, seek goals, reason, walk, sing on key, talk, be irritable, play games, grasp, adapt to an environment and even design improvements in themselves.. .man-like computers may one day contain plasma circulating through a viscera-like envelope, allowing them to be self-healing." Under the heading "HUMAN ROBOTS" we read, "...An electronic circuit that imitates two neurons, the cells of the human brain, has been built, and has enabled a robot to deal with some unexpected situations, but the neuron structure was bulky. The brain has billions of neurons, meaning an incredible miniaturization job will be necessary before truly ‘human’ robots are developed." As the reader knows since the 1960’s when this was written an incredible miniaturation job has been done in computers. What the public knows of that minituration is incredible and that is only part of what has actually occurred. In fact, scientists are now able to manipulate DNA to create computers. A basic thing that is needed to create a computer is material that will consistently change given some type of "signal". This is because the computer works off of base two--or what is simply an on--off switch system, or a 0 or 1 system of numbers. Living biological material is superior to other material for making computers because the heat created by the methods in conventional computers slows the speed. For super-computers to work at great speeds they need to use biological material that will not heat up. This type of miituration has already been done. It creates computers far beyond what we are familiar with. Organic robotoids are amazingly humanlike, so humanlike that it is hard for the scientists who have created them to get used to the idea that they are not humans. Biological computer brains for the robotiods
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came as a result of research into holograms. If you tear up a conventional photograph you ruin it, but if you tear up the film that produces a hologram, each piece still contains almost all the same image. This is why part of the brain of people can be removed and the brain regain what it had lost. A holographic image of a person’s brain is made, and then when the brain of a robotoid is made, the biological computer in its head is caused to form according to the holographic record of a person being copied. Some deviations from the holographic record are needed, because the "person" is a robotoid and not a person. The brain of the robotoid has almost all of the correct memory of the person reproduced, but the robotoid brain is really a computer made from biological material which is programmed, it is not a human brain. First, "Clinton" has the energy to jog because it may well be a robotoid, and second thing, an assassination of a robotoid is not so serious. These robotoids have a biological computer-brain that is programmed. They can think in the sense a computer thinks, but secret advances in understanding the human brain, have allowed the makers of organic robotoids to have the memory of a person at a given point in time transferred to an organic robotoid. The key then for making what appears to be a clone--but they are not a real clone--is to capture the person to be copied and make a holographic copy of the brain memory and transfer that to the robotoid.

4. Doubles (look alikes)
There is an ongoing program to find look alikes for prominent people, as well as a program to create secret identical twins (which are separated at birth and never see each other). George Bush’s double was promiscuous, while George Bush is a pedophile. His double was living in France after Bush was no longer President. By the use of doubles, (or one of the synthetics or organic robotoids) the elite are able to sneak away and perform satanic rituals. On certain occasions, if Clinton or Bush only needed to do low level tasks in front of the public, they could have their double substitute for them. The Illuminati working with several organizations has had a look alike operation where doubles of certain key people are found and then used. In the book Desert Shield and The New World Order pub. by Northpoint Tactical Teams, Topton, NC, if you look on page 32 you will see a picture of the original FDR who had a mole over his eyes and then you will a see a picture of the double of Roosevelt who they used, who had no mole and had different ear lobes. Roosevelt may have died prior to when it was actually announced. Over the years I have seen numerous photos exposing either the Robotoids or the doubles that they use. This author’s previous S' ’93 article had some pictures about the dead Pope Paul VI, who my Be Wise As Serpents book said was murdered. This recent Pope was replaced with a double who had had plastic surgery. As a double gets older the plastic surgery will not look as convincing, because time changes people differently. One ex-Catholic said the whole thing sounded like science fiction. It does sound far out at first, but the evidence is there for people to see. For myself, the ex-Illuminati have told me about the double’s program. From what I understand the double or look-alike program has been more successful than the robotoids and synthetics. The reason is that people live longer and are more dependable in some ways. The project to find look alikes for prominent people has been very successful. Plastic surgery has also been done to help touch up the doubles.


SUMMARY OF THE FOUR METHODS

This Appendix covers 4 different methods that have been used to make copies of people, these were cloning, creating synthetic duplicates, creating organic robotoids, and finding look alike doubles. [Programs for all four of these methods have had almost unlimited funding by the intelligence/Illuminati elite.] Next, the basic principles for creating a synthetic human were covered. Synthetic humans were in some ways found to be superior to the robotoids that were created. The first few years of robotoids were fraught with problems. [Since my inside information is somewhat dated, I cannot give readers the status of current robotoid abilities, however, I believe from what I’ve seen that the program continues.] The synthetics were people who had their genes altered to look more like the person they were to copy. The robotoids were the formation of new beings that look human but are actually bionic robots. Their memories were created by using living "brain tissue" which is some type of programmable living biological matter, and programming this material as a sophisticated computer. In order to get the memory of the person being copied, a holographic image of the person’s brain is made and transferred to the robotoid. Because the robotoid "brain" is not functioning like a human (although the end result is nearly identical so that viewers have to know what differences to look for), there are of course some adjustments that have to be made after the holographic image of the host is transferred to the living biological matter that will function as the brain of the robotoid. Lord Willing, this author may write some more on this topic later. The ability of the Illuminati to copy people using the 4 methods listed above, are not going to be the deciding factor in their moves to control the world, but it does give them a great deal of flexibility in their operations. This author frequently reflects on the words of the Illuminati Grand Master who told Cisco, who was then a child, while touring a cloning facility, "never, never think you are seeing who you think you are seeing."


From "Deeper insights into the Illuminati formula"
by Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml



Even if the movie Stepford wives are about the robotoids, when I'm talking about "being Stepforded" I mainly talk about the drastic change in a persons character -from independent, strong, "wild" and a bit of a "troublemaker" into a person with whole new priorities in life, often, for women, to be a good little wife and mother.
The edge is gone so to speak.
My belief is that this is because of heavy mindcontrol.
OR in hopefully more rare cases, cause the person has been replaced by a clone/robotoid/synthetic.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/5721/1193764397stepfordwiveshw5.jpg

[lostworld]

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7236/235390lqspwzl4.jpg

Robotoids and clones

Human clones are made by other humans from the DNA of a single cell, where a replica of the physical body is reproduced. That clone is only physical and has no soul, therefore, it has no God-connection. Clones can mate and reproduce clone children. A clone and a souled-human can mate and, again, only reproduce clone children.

Humans have no means to create a soul in another human clone, therefore, human clones have no soul and no concept of right and wrong, no conscience and no compassion. They have survival instinct and are greatly concerned about their own death, but not the welfare and death of others.

This explains why so many people today have no values, no morals, no ethics and are prone to violence.

They are more easily programmed through our mind-control type education and military training than are souled-humans with a freewill. Clones have no freewill, only a sense of survival, and will act accordingly through conditioned behavior.

The eye is the window of the soul. In the eye of another souled-human you can sense the Light emanating from the soul, the God Spirit within. As I said earlier, soul or God Spirit within, so there is no God-connection to the eternal Light of Creator Source. Therefore, there is no the human clone has no spiritual discernment. The eyes of a human clone may appear dull, blank, hollow, dark, vacant, lifeless, empty with no vibrancy or Light. They have no reaction to or understanding of spiritual energy, concepts or conversation.

The human clone acts robotically and is incapable of changing programming or thinking outside of "the box". Repetitive work and actions are not a problem. A human adult clone today can be made from a single cell in less than thirty-six hours. I am not joking. Russia had perfected cloning by the mid 1970's, and the Rothschilds were close behind in cloning technology.

(from http://www.2012unlimited.net/Robotoids.html )

[lostworld]

Adult clones

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2188/001wt4.jpg

It is another matter entirely when a swiftly produced adult clone is the object. A major reason aging can be accelerated is the brain's capa-bility to absorb information and perform functions at a far faster and more comprehensive rate than most Earth people realize. In fact, if this were not so, human cloning there would not be possible. In a rapidly-aged clone, keeping the integrity of all knowledge gained during the original being's lifetime to that point is at stake. The adult clone's initial memory ability is compromised to the extent that the clone may appear befuddled or momentarily at a loss for words until the memory kicks in or the clone's own thinking aspect overrides the hesitation and covers, so to speak. Since this is not highly unusual in "real" people, it is not generally noticed with suspicion in the cloned beings, but rather is considered only a human imperfection.

The downloading of all information in the brain of the original person or of the clone being replaced must be done at the moment of the need for the new clone. This can be done most successfully from the person's brain to the first clone. Slight deterioration occurs with every successive downloading procedure from the outcast clone to its replacement. No, the original brain cannot be used to circumvent this deterioration-even if that individual is still alive-because that original brain does not have the same accumulated knowledge as the most recent cloned entity. You can see that the identical store of latest infor-mation is essential if the replacement clone is to be accepted as the real person.


The most obvious clue to replication is that the "new" entity will always be fresh and more youthful than that which you will have seen just prior to replacement. This is why you must have control of all your media in order to pull off the subterfuge. Even under strict control of photography and make-up technicians the replication will often differ usually in reversal of character habits or muscle actions i.e., there will be a reversal of a "lop-sided" smile thusly, "talking out of the other side of the face", so to speak. The reversal of these traits is all but impossible to eliminate. So, too, are features which do not respond to stress changes as will a "haggard" or fatigued face pattern. Therefore, the structure and location of the ears, nose foundation and eye socket location must be perfected from viewing to viewing through cosmetic illusion and can never be EXACTLY duplicated. The whole ability to fool the public is the absolutely accepted "absurdity" of such a possibility of scientific achievement and your lack of attention.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5791/512994659efaa942cd2o1qc1.jpg

You can notice the abrupt and considerable change in appearance toward vibrant health and youthfulness of some world leaders as seen in TV films or photographs. Usually this high robustness and stamina immediately follows a day or a few days of absence from the public eye after a period of increasingly evident aging appearance. You attribute those remarkable differences to the person's brief vacation or recovery from a proclaimed illness, but here it is known that, simply, a new clone has replaced the old one.

The cloned adult bodies disintegrate far more rapidly than same-age bodies having grown old naturally. This is due partly to the accelerated aging process from infant to adult body and partly to the lack of skill in those scientists who perform the various procedures. Earth's third density atmosphere also is a factor.

These "genetic/holographic" DNA/RNA replicas have been in the perfecting for well over four decades. All that is required is a holographic fragment (literally, one cell) and a replica can be reproduced. Then all that is required is down-loading of the memory data and programming of the manufactured entity.

There are technical advances, already in use by the Elite, which would boggle your senses—robotoids are simplistic in relative comparison. They are comprised totally of physical “matter” manifested into what you perceive as physical coalition of these physical matter particles coalesced according to the DNA/RNA holo­graphic blueprint whereby the re-creation will be a projection of that which is being copied at the time of replication.
(from fourwinds10.com)


For super-computers to work at great speeds they need to use biological material that will not heat up. This type of miituration has already been done. It creates computers far beyond what we are familiar with. Organic robotoids are amazingly humanlike, so humanlike that it is hard for the scientists who have created them to get used to the idea that they are not humans.

Biological computer brains for the robotiods came as a result of research into holograms. If you tear up a conventional photograph you ruin it, but if you tear up the film that produces a hologram, each piece still contains almost all the same image. This is why part of the brain of people can be removed and the brain regain what it had lost. A holographic image of a person’s brain is made, and then when the brain of a robotoid is made, the biological computer in its head is caused to form according to the holographic record of a person being copied. Some deviations from the holographic record are needed, because the "person" is a robotoid and not a person. The brain of the robotoid has almost all of the correct memory of the person reproduced, but the robotoid brain is really a computer made from biological material which is programmed, it is not a human brain.

These robotoids have a biological computer-brain that is programmed. They can think in the sense a computer thinks, but secret advances in understanding the human brain, have allowed the makers of organic robotoids to have the memory of a person at a given point in time transferred to an organic robotoid. The key then for making what appears to be a clone--but they are not a real clone--is to capture the person to be copied and make a holographic copy of the brain memory and transfer that to the robotoid.
(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_genetica07.htm)


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[lostworld]

Someone posting on http://www.mail-archive.com/cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com/msg09178.html wrote

I've also read that Jimmy Carter is cloned. Don't know where though... :confused:
It was in detail described how he walked and moved etc...

[tebby]

Did everyone just completely ignore this video I posted?

look around you Brain - YouTube

[lostworld]

That does not look like Kirsten Dunst, has anyone else not noticed this?? Not only does it not look truly like her, but doesn't sound like here either, this is some sort of joke. Can you not also see how false and made up it all is?? In fact, the voice of the "mother" sounds awfully like the ORIGINAL Kirsten...hmmm...Kirsten and her cronies have been playing a joke here...

I would say this is a set up. There is NO WAY the original Kirsten would talk about Tom Cruise and others like this...anyone who believes this has been taken for a ride.

I agree with you Kiwimaj.
You can see Kirsten as a child when she played against Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt, and still recognize her and see that it's still the same young woman as we see today.
This looks nothing like her!

Somebody on the youtube comments mentioned that her mother was Swedish and her father German, so the parents should then have some kind of accent, which you can not hear on the film.

Over all, I think it's "too good to be true", it's "too much" and therefore I think it's fake.

[lostworld]

I'm just saying that some people can't tell when someone was replaced even when their eye colors aren't the same. :eek:

It's very easy - we're all hazel now... :D

[lostworld]

Rihanna -- The Face of a Battered Woman TMZ has obtained a photo of Rihanna taken after Chris Brown allegedly beat her.

Also, Chris Brown is a TOTAL A$$HOLE if he did that to her! P.O.S.!!!


And now she blames herself and "forgives" him... :rolleyes: :(

[lostworld]

Did everyone just completely ignore this video I posted?


Totally... :D :)
Tell me where exactly they talk about the brain device, cause that voice was a bit tiring to listen too... ;)

[armoured_amazon]

Totally... :D :)
Tell me where exactly they talk about the brain device, cause that voice was a bit tiring to listen too... ;)

LOL I missed it first time round too :D

[lostworld]

Yeah, I know. I have blue/green eyes & they will match pretty much any color of green or blue I wear. However, they will never, ever look hazel or brown. The issue w/ Paul & Faul is that Paul had brown or hazel eyes & Faul had green eyes. Paul's eyes never looked green. Faul's looked brown a lot, but it was prob contacts. A lot of times, he didn't seem to bother w/ them, b/c there are a lot of pics showing his green eyes.

Agree completly. Faul has light/green eyes.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7861/56703962av5.jpg

[lostworld]

Pseudo-Occult Media just did made a new blog entry and he mentions more tattoo/slave markings that none of us have picked up on yet.

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/02/imprisoned-kittens.html

Thanks Yeshua,
Haven't seen those before.

Regarding tattoos: many models also share the same tattoos... :rolleyes:

[supertzar]

I wasn't talking about that tattoo, I'm talking about the "sssshhh..." tattoo that all of the girls have. Why do they all have the same tattoo? It's also some of the same girls that share the star tattoo that I posted earlier.


It's probably a mind control thing. They are not supposed to tell. I was referring to the quote in the link. Note she has twin blue birds (Project Bluebird)

[lostworld]

I know for sure they're different people. The jaw line isn't the same:

They're both very cute though.

And they're both also very programmed... :(

Kate the cat (cat alter)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5007/l388cdc1225aa212786382ado5.jpg

Always in a constant trance state... Zooey (Oz) with Doherty's (The Wizard of Oz) ruby red shoes on...
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9518/78122734.jpghttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6544/78121420.jpg

[lostworld]

LOL I missed it first time round too :D

Armoured amazon,
very cute new avatar :)

[armoured_amazon]

Armoured amazon,
very cute new avatar :)

Hehe, thanks :)

[truthseeker49]

That is really cute. You just HAVE to love Miss Piggy. She was chubs & she was PROUD !
Lostworld, I agree with you & Faulcon concerning Faul's eye color. I think that Faulcon made very valid points concerning that. :cool:

[lostworld]

That is really cute. You just HAVE to love Miss Piggy. She was chubs & she was PROUD !
Lostworld, I agree with you & Faulcon concerning Faul's eye color. I think that Faulcon made very valid points concerning that. :cool:

Yes, and I tried to help out when Lightman was at his worst and kept on with that insane hazel stuff... :rolleyes:
Finally, he disappeared when he couldn't say why Paul's eyes (real Paul) never changed to green, since according to his "logic" they should...
He also, clearly, posted a pic with Faul wearing brown contacts. :D

Funny memories... :)

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Yes, Lightman... Ah, good times. Actually, he disappeared after he got nailed for posting my absolute favorite official doctored photo of Paul. :eek:

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/paul_faul_66.jpg

Lightman has probably just gotten himself another username to torment us under. :rolleyes:

[lostworld]

The Legend of Julia's fall

After a meteoric rise and three Hollywood blockbusters, British actress Julia Ormond suddenly fell from grace. But now, after a detour into art films, politics and parenthood she’s trying to make her mark on the big screen once more.

She was hailed as the new Julia Roberts and described by one critic as“a huricane on the horizon”. The lone voice of caution, it seems, came from Julia herself.

“It’s happening very quickly, horribly quickly really,” she said at the time.

“I don’t know that it’s such a good thing, actually. I think it could backfire quite badly.”

And how right she was, for just as quickly as big-time success arrived, the backlash came.

The New York Times ran a piece titled ‘The Conception, Production and Distribution of Julia Ormond’, which implied that Julia had somehow connived in creating her rapid celebrity out of nowhere (an angle that all but ignored her successful ten-years career on the British stage and screen).

from "The legend of Julia's fall"
http://www.juliaormond.cz/the-legend


Now she has a role in Benjamin Button, that stars Brad Pitt as Button.

During "the missing years" Julia explains she “did a documentary about Bosnian women in Serbian detention camps, did a radio play, worked with Harold Pinter ... and threw a ton of time into personal stuff and fell in love and had a baby.” :rolleyes:

Julia is also a UN's goodwill ambassador - that is always a clue too :rolleyes:

Julias downfall is one thing, another one is her brutal aging.
Wtf happened to her? :eek:

Julia was, officially, born 1965. That makes her 43, turning 44 this year.
She should NOT look like this in her early 40's! She looks like she's been chain smoking out in the hot sun for the last 10 years to have a skin like that!
This is NOT normal aging. This is something else...


Julia then, only 10 years ago

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8203/juliaormondgallery12.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5480/sabrina.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3434/juliaormond.jpg


and now

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8140/84256254.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5694/15440515.png


Even more scary in the light...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8739/95649596.png


Julia in the First Knight, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=994xLEchcfQ&feature=related

and

Interview 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWzKAI46fEY

Interview 2009
This does NOT look or sound like Julia at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWz-Ykn0eo&feature=related

comments from youtube:

ImLindseyAnne
Totally agree with your sentiments. I thought she was incredible as Sabrina, but does look and sound like a totally different person.

musik102
Julia looks and sounds so different!

IAmAnAvocado
WHY has she got an American accent ?????

wavehann
I like her british accent. what happen?


So, is this really Julia Ormond?

[lostworld]

^ Yes, Lightman... Ah, good times. Actually, he disappeared after he got nailed for posting my absolute favorite official doctored photo of Paul. :eek:

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/paul_faul_66.jpg


Yeah, that's a classic... :D

Lightman has probably just gotten himself another username to torment us under. :rolleyes:

Probably. As long as he stays away from here I'm happy... :)

[cognizant]

Woo hoo! It took me three days but I read through the whole thread :) Very good thread... learned a lot!

[siphon880di]

The Legend of Julia's fall

After a meteoric rise and three Hollywood blockbusters, British actress Julia Ormond suddenly fell from grace. But now, after a detour into art films, politics and parenthood she’s trying to make her mark on the big screen once more.

She was hailed as the new Julia Roberts and described by one critic as“a huricane on the horizon”. The lone voice of caution, it seems, came from Julia herself.

“It’s happening very quickly, horribly quickly really,” she said at the time.

“I don’t know that it’s such a good thing, actually. I think it could backfire quite badly.”

And how right she was, for just as quickly as big-time success arrived, the backlash came.

The New York Times ran a piece titled ‘The Conception, Production and Distribution of Julia Ormond’, which implied that Julia had somehow connived in creating her rapid celebrity out of nowhere (an angle that all but ignored her successful ten-years career on the British stage and screen).

from "The legend of Julia's fall"
http://www.juliaormond.cz/the-legend


Now she has a role in Benjamin Button, that stars Brad Pitt as Button.

During "the missing years" Julia explains she “did a documentary about Bosnian women in Serbian detention camps, did a radio play, worked with Harold Pinter ... and threw a ton of time into personal stuff and fell in love and had a baby.” :rolleyes:

Julia is also a UN's goodwill ambassador - that is always a clue too :rolleyes:

Julias downfall is one thing, another one is her brutal aging.
Wtf happened to her? :eek:

Julia was, officially, born 1965. That makes her 43, turning 44 this year.
She should NOT look like this in her early 40's! She looks like she's been chain smoking out in the hot sun for the last 10 years to have a skin like that!
This is NOT normal aging. This is something else...


Julia then, only 10 years ago

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8203/juliaormondgallery12.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5480/sabrina.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3434/juliaormond.jpg


and now

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8140/84256254.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5694/15440515.png


Even more scary in the light...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8739/95649596.png


Julia in the First Knight, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=994xLEchcfQ&feature=related

and

Interview 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWzKAI46fEY

Interview 2009
This does NOT look or sound like Julia at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWz-Ykn0eo&feature=related

comments from youtube:

ImLindseyAnne
Totally agree with your sentiments. I thought she was incredible as Sabrina, but does look and sound like a totally different person.

musik102
Julia looks and sounds so different!

IAmAnAvocado
WHY has she got an American accent ?????

wavehann
I like her british accent. what happen?


So, is this really Julia Ormond?

pwnt! stepford stamped.

[faulconandsnowjob]

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5694/15440515.png
^ My dad is 73 & has better skin than that! :eek:

[faulconandsnowjob]

Lostworld, you posted this on doppels, but not sure if you posted it here... Anyway, it's pretty amazing.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Human or Robot - YouTube

[orbandsceptre27]

The Legend of Julia's fall

Even more scary in the light...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8739/95649596.png


Julia in the First Knight, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=994xLEchcfQ&feature=related

and

Interview 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWzKAI46fEY

Interview 2009
This does NOT look or sound like Julia at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWz-Ykn0eo&feature=related

comments from youtube:

ImLindseyAnne
Totally agree with your sentiments. I thought she was incredible as Sabrina, but does look and sound like a totally different person.

musik102
Julia looks and sounds so different!

IAmAnAvocado
WHY has she got an American accent ?????

wavehann
I like her british accent. what happen?


So, is this really Julia Ormond?


That is freaky! :eek:

I saw "First Knight" and "Nostradamus" years back. That is 100 per cent not her at the SAG awards ceremony in 2009.

Here`s her current picture on wiki -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Juliaormond2.jpg

[tebby]

Totally... :D :)
Tell me where exactly they talk about the brain device, cause that voice was a bit tiring to listen too... ;)

4:25 :D:rolleyes:

[forza nascosta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4dwcxiDTcA&feature=related


That is surreal to look at it.

Technology tends to be broken to the public in dribs and drabs and years behind anything they can currently achieve. So I think it is quite feasible that these robots could be made to model humans.

[lostworld]

Woo hoo! It took me three days but I read through the whole thread :) Very good thread... learned a lot!

Hi Cognizant and welcome here! :)

I'm really impressed that you've read the whole thread.
And I'm so glad you like it :)

[lostworld]

^ My dad is 73 & has better skin than that! :eek:

My mom is also 73 and same with her... :)

[lostworld]

Lostworld, you posted this on doppels, but not sure if you posted it here... Anyway, it's pretty amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4dwcxiDTcA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RksP_gAqSh0&feature=related

I don't remember if I posted it here. Might have forgot.
Good that you did, thanks, cause they deserve to be here :)

Again, if this is what they show us - which is amazing technology - then just imagine what goes on behind the scenes... :rolleyes:
Makes me even more convinced that the clones, robotoids and synthetics are really a fact.

[lostworld]

That is freaky! :eek:

I saw "First Knight" and "Nostradamus" years back. That is 100 per cent not her at the SAG awards ceremony in 2009.



And she played a young girl in the First Knight too. :)

That's why I posted the videoclip from -95, so all of you could see that it's just not a difference in the pics, her face does NOT have all those lines and wrinkles then. And that is not something they would be able to hide in a movie either... Her skin is great in First Knight and she gets away with that part, even though she was already 30 then.
(Richard Gere also played younger than his age in that movie but that's a different story...).

[brainfreeze]

And she played a young girl in the First Knight too. :)

That's why I posted the videoclip from -95, so all of you could see that it's just not a difference in the pics, her face does NOT have all those lines and wrinkles then. And that is not something they would be able to hide in a movie either... Her skin is great in First Knight and she gets away with that part, even though she was already 30 then.
(Richard Gere also played younger than his age in that movie but that's a different story...).

She looks like a heavy smoker, or someone who spends too much time in the sun. How old is she?

Could it not be that her botox and fillers need topping up, cause that's what it looks like to me? I know I look 10 years older without mine.

[lostworld]

What ever happened to Julia Ormond?

This blogger also has a problem with Julia's disapperance:

In the mid 90's Julia Ormond was as hot a commodity as Julia Roberts ever was. From 1994 to 1995 she appeared in three hit films in a row that got her the public's attention and critical acclaim. Legends of the Fall, First Knight and Sabrina (which was my personal favorite of the three) where all released within 20 months of each other and it looked like this talented and stunningly attractive actress was going to be Hollywood's 'it' girl for years to come.

Then, inexplicably, she just disappeared. It's not as if she was in a series of films that did poorly at the box office which caused her star to fade. She just dropped off the face of the earth as far as movies are concerned.

To add a little more to this, look at the list of actors she worked with just in those 3 films alone. In Legends she worked with Anthony Hopkins and Brad Pitt. In First Knight she worked with Sean Connery and Richard Gere. In Sabrina she worked with Harrison Ford and Greg Kinnear. She's in the biggest films, with the biggest names, and then... nothing. Did she tick someone off? Did she decide to change careers? Did she have a rep for being hard to work with? Did she have kids and decide to devote her time to family?

Hey, if anyone knows what caused her to suddenly leave the spotlight, could you please let me know. I'd love to see her reemerge one of these days. Hollywood is currently short on quality actresses.

(John Campea, BC - Blogcritics Magazine
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/09/06/090909.php)


The real Julia Ormond
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7292/270pxjuliaormond1.jpg

[lostworld]

She looks like a heavy smoker, or someone who spends too much time in the sun. How old is she?

Could it not be that her botox and fillers need topping up, cause that's what it looks like to me? I know I look 10 years older without mine.

Officially she was born in 1965. That makes her 43, 44 years old. Like I wrote in my first post on this; she would have to be chain smoking out in the hot sun for the past 10 years to damage her skin like that!
In her early 40's her skin should not look like this. Especially not compared to what it looked like before...

AND she looks more than 10 years older - try more like 30 years older. Her skin is in it's 70's! :eek:

We've seen this kind of "aging" before though. In Mel Gibson for instance that we've also posted about...

[lostworld]

4:25 :D:rolleyes:

Thanks Tebby :)
I've watched it now!
Sorry for my impatience...

That was quite interesting actually. What shall we make of this? :rolleyes:

[tebby]

Thanks Tebby :)
I've watched it now!
Sorry for my impatience...

That was quite interesting actually. What shall we make of this? :rolleyes:

Just another interesting way they could be programing people. "Tempting isn't it?"

Who posted that picture of paul doctored to look like faul? I can't find it in the thread.

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Do you mean the picture Lightman posted? It's actually an "official" pic of Paul that's been doctored. I don't think Lightman doctored it, & maybe didn't even know it had been. It came from this picture from their Aug 19, 1966 Memphis interview:
http://gallery.pictopia.com/memphiscom/gallery/S591993/photo/395357/

There are tons of doctored pics of Paul out there, unfortunately. :mad:

[howie]

They're royal girlfriends 25 years apart - but as these amazing pictures show, Koo Stark and Kate Middleton have a lot in common ...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/21/article-1151731-039C4C0B000005DC-980_468x384.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1151731/Theyre-royal-girlfriends-25-years-apart--amazing-pictures-Koo-Stark-Kate-Middleton-lot-common-.html

[amethyst]

Lostworld, you posted this on doppels, but not sure if you posted it here... Anyway, it's pretty amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4dwcxiDTcA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RksP_gAqSh0&feature=related

How stupid are those people who are "interviewing' that first robot? They are talking to it like it is real. Ridiculous!

[tebby]

How stupid are those people who are "interviewing' that first robot? They are talking to it like it is real. Ridiculous!

They're just confirming it's artificial intelligence.

[amethyst]

They're just confirming it's artificial intelligence.

More than that. "I love you jewls" I 'm super sad for you" Utterly, utterly ridiculous! :rolleyes:

The robot says to the baby, "Someday I will find you and we'll be good friends." Rubbish. Not going to happen. The idiot PTB that designed this, want it to happen but it won't. the human spirit will overcome.

[amethyst]

They're just confirming it's artificial intelligence.

:rolleyes:

[lostworld]

Just another interesting way they could be programing people. "Tempting isn't it?"

Who posted that picture of paul doctored to look like faul? I can't find it in the thread.

^ Do you mean the picture Lightman posted? It's actually an "official" pic of Paul that's been doctored. I don't think Lightman doctored it, & maybe didn't even know it had been. It came from this picture from their Aug 19, 1966 Memphis interview:
http://gallery.pictopia.com/memphiscom/gallery/S591993/photo/395357/

There are tons of doctored pics of Paul out there, unfortunately. :mad:

Also, it wasn't posted here originally but on one of the PID threads.
Lightman was - in our opininon - a disinfo there...

[lostworld]

They're royal girlfriends 25 years apart - but as these amazing pictures show, Koo Stark and Kate Middleton have a lot in common ...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/21/article-1151731-039C4C0B000005DC-980_468x384.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1151731/Theyre-royal-girlfriends-25-years-apart--amazing-pictures-Koo-Stark-Kate-Middleton-lot-common-.html

Wow!
Thanks for posting this Howie :)

Koo Stark... had forgotten about her... :rolleyes:

[lostworld]

More than that. "I love you jewls" I 'm super sad for you" Utterly, utterly ridiculous! :rolleyes:

The robot says to the baby, "Someday I will find you and we'll be good friends." Rubbish. Not going to happen. The idiot PTB that designed this, want it to happen but it won't. the human spirit will overcome.

Again, this is what they show us officially...
What is already going on is probably much worse - like the clones and the synthetics we've been talking about before.
You really can't tell the difference between them and humans...!
Of course you can have a weird feeling about them etc BUT you don't know... :rolleyes:

Maybe the robots will find us all in the end... :eek:

And remember, humans are responsible for all the bad things that's going on in this world... :(

[amethyst]

Again, this is what they show us officially...
What is already going on is probably much worse - like the clones and the synthetics we've been talking about before.
You really can't tell the difference between them and humans...!
Of course you can have a weird feeling about them etc BUT you don't know... :rolleyes:

Maybe the robots will find us all in the end... :eek:

And remember, humans are responsible for all the bad things that's going on in this world... :(

Yes, I know. It's been going on for a long, long time. Way back. It was technology that the nephilim gave to man. But it is utterly ridiculous and the human spirit wil win out eventually over this.

You really can't tell the difference between them and humans...!


That mindset is what they want you to buy into. They want everyone to be impressed. They want the wool pulled over everyone's eyes but it won't happen....to everyone. Only if you want to be deceived. They lose in the end though.

[faulconandsnowjob]

And remember, humans are responsible for all the bad things that's going on in this world..
& the Reptilians! :eek:

You really can't tell the difference between them and humans...!
That mindset is what they want you to buy into. They want everyone to be impressed. They want the wool pulled over everyone's eyes but it won't happen....to everyone.
Maybe not everyone can be fooled, but it's pretty shocking how many people can be (just look at how many can't see the diff btw Faul & Paul, for ex). If people don't even know about clones/synthetics, they could very easily be fooled, imo. I can't help but think about that weird video w/ Brad Pitt doing that oafish shuffle. That was so bizarre. :eek:

[amethyst]

& the Reptilians! :eek:


Maybe not everyone can be fooled, but it's pretty shocking how many people can be (just look at how many can't see the diff btw Faul & Paul, for ex). If people don't even know about clones/synthetics, they could very easily be fooled, imo. I can't help but think about that weird video w/ Brad Pitt doing that oafish shuffle. That was so bizarre. :eek:

]& the Reptilians! :eek:
Yes it is the reptilian agenda and these are the power players behind the scenes.....but unfortunately, some humans have bought into that depraved agenda in exchange for fame, fortune and (they think) eternal life. Some of the bloodlines are an example of this. Some started out all right and then sold their souls for knowledge.

Sellouts are what they are. And they've passed their knowledge down thru their descendants. Even if that descendant wants that knowledge or not. But the wise will choose to see and be free.

A good portion of ignorant humans are sellouts really.

But if a person really wants the truth, they will find it. It's those who don't really want the truth that willingly want to be in deception. A sad and unfortunate fact, but accurate.

[kiwimaj]

They're royal girlfriends 25 years apart - but as these amazing pictures show, Koo Stark and Kate Middleton have a lot in common ...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/21/article-1151731-039C4C0B000005DC-980_468x384.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1151731/Theyre-royal-girlfriends-25-years-apart--amazing-pictures-Koo-Stark-Kate-Middleton-lot-common-.html


Well spotted !! They DO have an uncanny similarity.

:eek:

[kiwimaj]

The Legend of Julia's fall

After a meteoric rise and three Hollywood blockbusters, British actress Julia Ormond suddenly fell from grace. But now, after a detour into art films, politics and parenthood she’s trying to make her mark on the big screen once more.

She was hailed as the new Julia Roberts and described by one critic as“a huricane on the horizon”. The lone voice of caution, it seems, came from Julia herself.

“It’s happening very quickly, horribly quickly really,” she said at the time.

“I don’t know that it’s such a good thing, actually. I think it could backfire quite badly.”

And how right she was, for just as quickly as big-time success arrived, the backlash came.

The New York Times ran a piece titled ‘The Conception, Production and Distribution of Julia Ormond’, which implied that Julia had somehow connived in creating her rapid celebrity out of nowhere (an angle that all but ignored her successful ten-years career on the British stage and screen).

from "The legend of Julia's fall"
http://www.juliaormond.cz/the-legend


Now she has a role in Benjamin Button, that stars Brad Pitt as Button.

During "the missing years" Julia explains she “did a documentary about Bosnian women in Serbian detention camps, did a radio play, worked with Harold Pinter ... and threw a ton of time into personal stuff and fell in love and had a baby.” :rolleyes:

Julia is also a UN's goodwill ambassador - that is always a clue too :rolleyes:

Julias downfall is one thing, another one is her brutal aging.
Wtf happened to her? :eek:

Julia was, officially, born 1965. That makes her 43, turning 44 this year.
She should NOT look like this in her early 40's! She looks like she's been chain smoking out in the hot sun for the last 10 years to have a skin like that!
This is NOT normal aging. This is something else...


Julia then, only 10 years ago

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8203/juliaormondgallery12.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5480/sabrina.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3434/juliaormond.jpg


and now

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8140/84256254.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5694/15440515.png


Even more scary in the light...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8739/95649596.png


Julia in the First Knight, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=994xLEchcfQ&feature=related

and

Interview 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWzKAI46fEY

Interview 2009
This does NOT look or sound like Julia at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWz-Ykn0eo&feature=related

comments from youtube:

ImLindseyAnne
Totally agree with your sentiments. I thought she was incredible as Sabrina, but does look and sound like a totally different person.

musik102
Julia looks and sounds so different!

IAmAnAvocado
WHY has she got an American accent ?????

wavehann
I like her british accent. what happen?


So, is this really Julia Ormond?

I saw Benjamin Button and did not know that Julia was in it, at the beginning, but after a while of watching I thought to myself..."she looks familiar.." then I worked out it was Julia. But the shots above do not look like the Julia that was in Benjamin, her face did not look all wrinkly. She looked like a slightly older Julia from the days of Legends, how I would imagine her to look. So I am a little unsure of why she looks so wrinkly here, they must have really piled on the slap in that film...very odd. Another thought, drugs can cause premature ageing, or too much booze as well.

On Julia's accent, indeed, why the American accent, she was born in Epsom.

[truthseeker49]

She looks at least 10 years older than she should. What's with her eye color ?

[truthseeker49]

All I can think of while watching those videos is The Terminator series. I don't know why those movies were made, but I do know what I got out of them. NEVER trust a machine.:(

[kiwimaj]

Teri Hatcher, DOB December 4, 1964 (44)

On the set of Superman, she looks fine

http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/35/78/52/18474894.jpghttp://images.art.com/images/-/Lois-and-Clark-The-New-Adventures-of-Superman--C10103249.jpeg

..but...these shot, she looks WEIRD...something very odd about her here..


http://www.virginmedia.com/images/teri-hatcher431x500.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_li9ZnTHkTH4/Rrk25CNEwXI/AAAAAAAAAuM/JctfHXfjVbE/s400/teri_hatcher.jpg

[armoured_amazon]

She's got that funny eye shiz going on like Nicole Kidman.

[kiwimaj]

She's got that funny eye shiz going on like Nicole Kidman.

hehehe, luv your avatar amazon...;)

:D

[kiwimaj]

She's got that funny eye shiz going on like Nicole Kidman.

..and looks like too much botox (poison) pumped into her face..

Why do they use that sh*t anyways? What makes them think that by injecting a poisonous substace into their face, it will do no lasting damage? Some people will go to any lengths to look "beautiful"...:eek:

[armoured_amazon]

hehehe, luv your avatar amazon...;)

:D

It was a wardrobe malfunction, I swear! :o

:D

[amethyst]

..and looks like too much botox (poison) pumped into her face..

Why do they use that sh*t anyways? What makes them think that by injecting a poisonous substace into their face, it will do no lasting damage? Some people will go to any lengths to look "beautiful"...:eek:

Because they are not allowed to be human and age gracefully. They work the celebrities very hard so that they age prematurely, and then, once they get all worn out, they give them plastic surgery and stretch their faces into unnatural contortions.

There are on an never ending wheel till they expire. Such a godforsaken industry.

[angel wings]

Lostworld, you posted this on doppels, but not sure if you posted it here... Anyway, it's pretty amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4dwcxiDTcA&feature=related



Very scary indeed! So realistic. :eek:

P.S I couldn't help noticing the two talking to the robot has skull and bones tops on.

[tebby]

It was a wardrobe malfunction, I swear! :o

:D

Oh no she didn't! that miss piggy needs some parental guide.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Talking about robots/androids:

23. And some of these technophiles have gone a step farther, creating actual machine intelligences. These sentient computers are now, themselves, a force amoung the ruling Illuminati!

45. They have a variety of unhuman and inhuman servants. The dreaded Men in Black are perhaps their best-known agents. No one knows whether the MIBs are androids, golems, or something even worse. Perhaps they were once human . . .

The Illuminati FAQ, Abner Whateley
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/humor/illum50.html

We've talked about "downloading" people's minds into a clone or robotoid, but I had no idea how it was done. I thought this was really interesting:

How the memory of a person is transferred for the organic robotoids

In order to successfully make human organic robotoids --in a sense to make bionic robots-- the ability to simulate the personality of the person being copied was necessary.

The only viable solution was to learn how the brain coded memory and duplicate that process. The brain is entering into its memory about 10 million bits of information a second. The incredible storage capability of the human brain which weighs on the average 3.25 lbs in human males and 2.9 lbs in human females is incredible.

The brain can easily store 100 million billion bits of information. It’s no wonder we don’t use it all. All the computers in the world put together do not compare with one intelligent person’s brain.

Numerous tests and experiments from many different angles all showed investigators that the brain stored information as a hologram. The place in the brain where a memory is stored isn’t in just one location. Memories are stored in synapses in sequence, but they are stored in a holographic method.

From what I understand, rhythmic pulses radiate from a small area of the brain like a stone creates ripples in a pond. Waves go through the cerebrum, in the way that laser light is used to create a hologram. Different frequencies are used by the brain and different neuron impulses are used to reference (tag) the different details. These tags are the brain’s own codes or reference standards for cataloging information.

The brain has to be able to access the encoder/decoder (holographic code standards) for a particular piece of information to be retrieve for the conscious. Brain injuries can destroy one decoder, and leave other decoders for a memory intact.

When a multiple (a person with MPD/DID) is created layers and layers of amnesia walls (actual walls) are built into the brain, and then specific codes are created which cause the mind to bring these compartments of memory to the surface. Each compartment is built into an alter (personality) or a functioning part of the System (built somewhat like a series of computers). Where a normal person may be aware of a conscious and a somewhat subconscious track running simultaneously, the mind of a multiple runs several tracks at once.

On a local level within the brain, researchers have called a memories storage unit an engram. Polypeptidenucleic acid holds a piece of information, such as a trauma memory. Proteins and other substances are involved in the memory process. How a person eats can influence their mental abilities.

But it must be born in mind that a memory is retained holographically in countless locations in the memory storage area of the brain, just as the ripples of a stone dropped into water flow throughout an entire pond.

The mind will have a number of reference points from which a particular memory can be decoded. The information that is stored in the brain is both dynamic and holographic. It is not stored like a book. If the dynamic impulses of the brain cease, so do the memories. Freezing and reviving a human brain will serve to erase its memory. I will try to explain things in clear terms if the reader will bear with me.

The reason that we recognize objects so quickly is that the brain performs what is similar to what researchers call a Fourier transfer. Messages are transmitted through Fourier-transform messages. What is a Fourier-transform message? A Fourier transform is a mathematical method where a complex wave, or a complex pattern is broken down and converted into a basically longer, but precise signal of simpler frequencies. In other words a squiggly line is hard to communicate, but via the Fourier transform it becomes a string of numbers which is quite easy to transmit. In other words, a complex squiggly line and a straight line after the conversion are both just as easy to record. The brain stores information in a form similar to a Fourier transform, so that when it must look for similar patterns, it can quickly overlook everything but another identical Fourier transform pattern. A mental comparison is done so quick that it gives the ability to the brain to "instantly" recognize people who one hasn’t seen for years. The Holograms of memory that the brain makes are transmitted through Fourier-transform messages.

Holograms are hard to destroy, for each piece contains the whole. Rip a holograph in half and you still have the same picture. Rip it in half again and the same picture remains. After a great many cuts in half the holograph begins to get a little fuzzy, as it loses some of its detail, but the entire picture is still there.

That is why memories begin to get somewhat fuzzy, because we are only puffing up a small piece of brain that recorded the memory. However, if we can pull up more of the holographic image of the memory we get a more distinct detailed picture.

It was secret research into holograms that gave Illuminati scientists the ability to copy the memory of an entire brain. A holographic image is made of the host’s brain and that is transferred into the biological matter functioning as a brain of the robotoid. Since the body and brain of the robotoid are not identical to the original person being copied, adjustments have to be taught and programmed into the mind of the robotoid. The entire process is sophisticated, but then so are many manufacturing processes today.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_genetica07.htm

[mountainwarrior]

i can help you people out and save you a lot of wasted time and energy.

go get a sledge hammer, and smash the shit out of you tv.

100's of pages of analyzing celebrity pictures = human feces

/end thread

[mountain]

i can help you people out and save you a lot of wasted time and energy.

go get a sledge hammer, and smash the shit out of you tv.

100's of pages of analyzing celebrity pictures = human feces

/end thread

Oh my... have you read the material throughout this thread?! It has opened my eyes much wider and confirmed my own personal suspicions, I must say.

This thread has proven useful to many here so why would you suggest to end it?!

[amethyst]

Talking about robots/androids:



We've talked about "downloading" people's minds into a clone or robotoid, but I had no idea how it was done. I thought this was really interesting:

This is very, very interesting...but the thing is, with all the 'mechanics' they have to place an "operational, functioning mind" in one of these robotoids, what is missing from all of these creations is a SOUL. No matter how much they can deplicate the hardware, and the brain's thinking patterns, they CANNOT duplicate a living soul.

Same goes with clones.

That's why they will never be human or truely authentic. It still baffles me how someone could gush and treat as such, something that is created, as if it were something "real" and living. I'm refering to those ignorant people who were talking to the robot as if "it" were real.

Those people really need a reality check IMO.:rolleyes:

[onourwayto2012]

Teri Hatcher, DOB December 4, 1964 (44)

On the set of Superman, she looks fine

http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/35/78/52/18474894.jpghttp://images.art.com/images/-/Lois-and-Clark-The-New-Adventures-of-Superman--C10103249.jpeg

..but...these shot, she looks WEIRD...something very odd about her here..


http://www.virginmedia.com/images/teri-hatcher431x500.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_li9ZnTHkTH4/Rrk25CNEwXI/AAAAAAAAAuM/JctfHXfjVbE/s400/teri_hatcher.jpg

lower right= SCARY!!!
edit....now it's lower left

[siphon880di]

lower right= SCARY!!!
edit....now it's lower left

What happened to her eye? You know, some celebrities have different eye sizes when they get older. Perhaps replaced? For example, Shannen Doherty from 90210 (the older series) use to have symmetrical eyes. Now her eyes look weird. Sorry for not supplying photos. Been a bit busy.

[yeshua]

i can help you people out and save you a lot of wasted time and energy.

go get a sledge hammer, and smash the shit out of you tv.

100's of pages of analyzing celebrity pictures = human feces

/end thread

Help? I don't think any of us asked or even need your help. I don't see anything wrong with this thread. All we're doing is bringing awareness to what is going on in the entertainment industry. People spend 100's of pages analyzing the concepts Icke talks about so why not this? This is only just another aspect of the broader themes David Icke is known to discuss.

[lostworld]

just started reading this fascinating thread.

long time researcher myself of mind control.

thx to all those who have contributed. hope to have the time to read through the rest of the very long thread soon.

i just wanted to post this if it hasnt been done yet.

new show on fox called dollhouse, it's pretty obvious and blatant, ill let you guys dissect it lol

http://www.fox.com/dollhouse/

Joss Whedon, creator of the groundbreaking cult favorites, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," and "Firefly," returns to television and reunites with fellow "Buffy" alumna, Eliza Dushku, for a thrilling new drama, DOLLHOUSE.

ECHO (Dushku) is an "Active," a member of a highly illegal and underground group of individuals who have had their personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas. Hired by the wealthy, powerful and connected, the Actives don't just perform their hired roles, they wholly become -- with mind, personality and physiology -- whomever the client wants or needs them to be. Whether imprinted to be a lover, an assassin, a corporate negotiator or a best friend, the Actives know no other life than the specific engagements they are in at that time.

Mountainwarrior posted this (above) not so long ago so I chose not to take what he/she now says litterally... :rolleyes:

Anyway, there is no way this thread is ending any time soon... There is still much work to be done. :)

[faulconandsnowjob]

...but the thing is, with all the 'mechanics' they have to place an "operational, functioning mind" in one of these robotoids, what is missing from all of these creations is a SOUL. No matter how much they can deplicate the hardware, and the brain's thinking patterns, they CANNOT duplicate a living soul.

Same goes with clones.

Here's some more interesting stuff I've found on clones. I've also read they don't have souls.

MATTHEW: Knowing that these questions have been sent to you is partly why I said that some revelations may be shocking. First I shall speak about Pope John Paul.

The Pope so beloved and respected by many throughout your world was cloned several years ago when it became clear to the dark souls that he was a liability. Seeing that he was determined to hinder their aim of retaining their power over religious believers, they ended the physical life of the Light being John Paul. Since his soul elected not to enter the clone, he transitioned to Nirvana and has worked diligently to bring Light to all souls on Earth. In accordance with his soul contract and conscious desire, John Paul wanted to lift the people of the world above the confinements of the church dogma that was controlling them through deceit, and that did not serve the purpose of the dark souls who were bent on maintaining the status quo. Consider: What single influence during the past two millennia has been more divisive and has wielded more control over lives than religion, especially the Roman Catholic Church with its strategically established infallibility of its highest authority, the Pope? Although the clones that have been carrying on in the name of the Pope have publicly shown his gentleness, humility and loving spirit, it was to beguile, not to show the way to true spiritual growth. None of the reforms John Paul intended have come to pass. At the time of the downloading of his intelligence, knowledge, and experiential memories into the first clone, the clone was programmed to suppress John Paul’s divine inspiration to allow ancient records hidden in the Vatican to come forth and to share with the world's poor the vast wealth amassed by the church.

MATTHEW: ... The purpose of clones is to take over in case of death by any means so that the person’s powerful influence won’t be interrupted. The new Pope hasn’t the charisma and the love of the masses as did his predecessor, and if he died tomorrow, the Illuminati within the Vatican very likely would be gleeful that this most logical successor to John Paul was quickly out of their way and they could get one of themselves into the papacy. They had insufficient support to manage this at the election where the prevailing choice was Ratzinger because of his closeness to John Paul...

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/messages_of_matthew_ward.htm

[faulconandsnowjob]

One of the regulars on the pid thread just posted this. I'd never thought about using facial recognition software before. What a great idea.

Do you know the site My heritage? http://www.myheritage.com.br/
So I did a test to see the result, and I put many, many photos of Paul mccartney pre and post 67, in the celebrity collage, and find it a bit intersting cause the maximum result was 80% (and some gave very low like 65%). So I test many other celebrities like Mel gibson, tom cruise, natalie portman, viggo mortensen... (just one photo of each) and the results were minimun 85 and many of them very high 90, 95%. I´m not saying this proof anything, but is interesting... :rolleyes:

Would be interesting you do the test too to see wath you find (the photo should be a frontal, better a close, showing very well the face)....

[amethyst]

Here's some more interesting stuff I've found on clones. I've also read they don't have souls.

I'm thinking that a lot of the clones are used so that they can be "houses' ,receptacles (a holding container) for a demonic entity(s)

Ratzinger looks like he is a receptacle for a lot of evil entities. Just my opinion.

[lostworld]

Lily Allen

MK sex-kitten Lily Allen is featured in the latest issue of Q magazine. Posing with black panthers... (cat alter)
She's dressed in black and white, fake fur (fur as a cat's fur...), and has a short chequered skirt on (remember the chequered floors...).

Q Magazine: "She is, of course, as playful as a pussycat with an occasional touch of ferocity, so taking that as our cue for our cover shoot, we paired the singer with a black panther." :rolleyes:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7141/q273lilyspread.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6347/carousellily3740436a.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7612/633709930985964515.jpg

[faulconandsnowjob]

I'm thinking that a lot of the clones are used so that they can be "houses' ,receptacles (a holding container) for a demonic entity(s)
That is def possible. I found some more.


S: Matthew, excuse me, but it is true that Bush is a clone? And if it is, why hasn’t a new clone replaced this one that seems to have become really irrational?

4. MATTHEW: Yes, the President Bush seen publicly is a clone. It was only when he became governor of Texas that it occurred to the powers that be to have him cloned. By that time, alcohol had seriously compromised his physical and mental status, so the first clone could only be a poor specimen. Because the art and science of human—or even animal—cloning is far from perfected on Earth, there is deterioration with each successive clone, so a replacement cannot be in much better condition than the predecessor. And since the brain’s storage unit cannot be downloaded into a physically-ready clone until a new one is required, because all knowledge to that date must be included, by now there is little chance that Bush’s mental condition will improve.

S: Does the clone have a soul?

5. MATTHEW: No.

S: Maybe that’s causing or at least adding to his behavior?

6. MATTHEW: It may be contributing to his stated belief that he has been anointed by God to do what he’s doing, but basically it is the personality that is quite authentically reproduced in clones that you are witnessing. It will be surprising if his controllers can be patient much longer with his erratic behavior and diminishing effectiveness in carrying out their orders, but regardless of their concerns, this will not be publicly apparent...

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=18&z=2

S: ... In your last message [August 9, 2004] you said that the President Bush seen publicly is a clone and has no soul. I should have thought of these questions myself, but I didn’t—someone else did: Can soulless clones receive the light in prayers and is the real George W. Bush still alive?

24. MATTHEW: Mother, so was I remiss in not treating that topic more thoroughly. A soulless clone cannot receive light but intellectually can respond to the influence of those around him who can; consequently, high beings are directing an abundance of light to the people who can exert the greatest pressure on presidential decisions. Absolutely your prayers directed to the cloned president are effective in that same way because the energy streamers you are sending out carry that intention. Yes, George W. Bush is alive and out of sight of the public, but not out of range for the effects of light being beamed to him if he wishes to accept it.

25. The body has its own life force, so soulless clones are every bit as physically alive as any incarnated soul. What clones lack are the properties of a soul—emotions, especially the capacity to give and receive love; conscience, the sense of right and wrong; moral integrity and honor; intuition; and of course, the awareness of a godself. Clones without souls function totally within whatever measure of intellect and personality was downloaded from the person or a predecessor clone and by behaving in accordance with what they observe around them. Therefore, depending upon what was inherited from the cloned person and the environment in which it lives, a soulless clone may behave in a pleasant, helpful fashion. Clones may be, but not necessarily are produced by any civilization with the technological knowledge to do so.

26. A soul may choose to enter a clone. However, since the only adult human clones on Earth at this point are of maximally powerful people who want to insure that in the event of their death, their control continues over the unaware public, few souls choose to inhabit these cloned bodies. Those who choose to do so come from the highest light, and they enter for the purpose of turning a darkly inclined person into the light. Sometimes this is successful and other times it is not; when it is not, it’s because the darkness is so inculcated in the person’s character that even with the strong will of the lighted soul, it becomes trapped in that density.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=8&z=2

[faulconandsnowjob]

More on GW Bush from April 3rd, 2007:

S: With his abysmal ratings in the polls and world opinion largely against his decisions, I’ve wondered why the Illuminati haven’t assassinated him.

MATTHEW: Mother, you aren’t thinking about the two Illuminati factions and that Bush is cloned. At least two of the clones have been killed, but the Bush faction made certain that new clones were available without “the president’s” undue absence from the public eye.

http://www.godumentary.com/matthew22.htm

[faulconandsnowjob]

Some info on cloning from "Revelations for the New Era" by Matthew Ward:

HUGO: ... It is my understanding that
you have questioned if clon-ing of adult humans has
been done on Earth. Indeed that is fact, and has been
for some time, as Matthew told you. I shall start
straight away, at the beginning of the cloning
process, if I may. Thank you.
Human cloning is a process whereby the cellular
material of a living being is taken for the purpose of
reproducing the exact same likeness in a new entity.
The cellular material is placed in a sterile vial in a
liquid conducive for the growth of that material in
purity and without imperfections entering the
substance. After it divides and subdivides, the
matter is transferred to a larger laboratory container
under the same sterile conditions and temperature and
light controls.
The embryonic form becomes quickly apparent and soon
the defi-nite form of a fetus is easily recognizable.
When the fetus has reached the stage of approximately
six months of normal gestational age, it is
transferred again, to a holding tank wherein the
liquid approximates the amniotic fluid in the womb
during pregnancy.
In this liquid the fetus continues to evolve normally
as if in a womb. When the fetus has reached term
development, it is removed from the fluid and is then
treated as if birth by natural means has occurred.
Except, of course, there is no umbilical cord to
treat. Minor cosmetic surgery remedies that absence
of the normal appearance.
The process in human replication does not take an
incubation pe-riod of nine months. It is accelerated
by means of chemical additives and ideal circumstances
of laboratory makings.
The initial process can take between six and seven of
your weeks for certainty of perfect fetal development,
and another eight to ten weeks is required for the
full growth. Since none of this is by natural birth
processes, regular gesta-tional time has no meaning.
Cloning is not confined to reproducing infants who are
permitted to grow normally from birth into adulthood.
When the clone of a specific adult is at stake, the
period of aging from emergence of the infant into an
adult in prime years, say between
30 and 35 years of age, is only between 350 and 400
days. About one additional month of aging is required
to produce a clone of a
65-year-old individual.
That is the approximate age of most humans being
cloned on Earth at this time.
The substance that permits this rapid aging has not
yet been dis-covered for such a purpose except by
those few scientists engaged in the cloning process.
A few individuals on Earth have been afflicted with a
chemical imbalance that causes their bodies to age far
more quickly than what is normal there. A 10-year old
child can have the aged ap- pearance and organic
functioning and processes of a very old person.
Old by your standards, that is, not elsewhere.
The chemical that causes the imbalance in that
diseased childs system is what is used almost to
perfection in the process of rapidly aging infant
clones into adults.
This aging acceleration process also requires the
addition of several key nutrients to the diet and
ideal laboratory conditions of temperature and
controlled degrees of oxygen and carbon dioxide. The
disadvan-tage is that when the appearance must be
identical to the original per-son who is about 60 or
65 years, then the entire cloned being must be aged
until that identical appearance is reached.
There is no way to stop the aging of the organs and
still achieve the necessary appearance, thus the
organs are subjected to all the stress of the
accelerated aging as well as any deficiencies inherent
in the family genes.
Even if the newly cloned individual initially appears
fresher and younger looking than the origi-nal person
or the predecessor clone, it quickly breaks down and
starts showing more advanced signs of aging in all
respects...

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/clonechanx.htm

Who was the model who didn't have a belly button?

[faulconandsnowjob]

More from the book on how clones learn:

I have spoken so far only of the body of a cloned
individual. The brain is another matter. It is the
most intricate aspect of the growth procedure, both in
vitro and once in flesh. The human brain is a
com-puter, and the downloading function from the
original brain to the brain of the clone works exactly
like your computers in this same type of process.
Duplicating the original brain can be done with
perfection in an infant clone. Education is supplied
continuously to the clone through-out the aging period
from birth to adulthood, and the brain functions as
normally as you would expect within the accelerated
learning faculties.
Because the brain is so vast in capability, the
clones absorption of information during the
educational process is not only easy, it is most
interesting for the people involved to see such giant
leaps in learning.
We observe this from here and see this as the only
aspect of scientific nature on your planet that is
beginning to be enlightened as to func-tional human
brain capacity.
Madam, the extended educational process is necessary
because an abrupt insertion of intelligence on a blank
slate would produce a neuro-logical shock.
The clones are instructed from infancy by tutors who
are specially trained behavioral scientists. This
aspect of the process is exactly what you do with your
infants, teaching them to become aware, alert,
re-sponsible little individuals with personalities,
skills, a sense of responsi-bility and engaging
mannerisms. The tutors, whose students are quite more
unique than most, are trained themselves by personal
films of the family and are supplied other intimate
family history, thus they are familiar with all speech
and movement mannerisms of the cloned indi-vidual.
It is another matter entirely when a swiftly produced
adult clone is the object. A major reason aging can
be accelerated is the brain s capa-bility to absorb
information and perform functions at a far faster and
more comprehensive rate than most Earth people
realize. In fact, if this were not so, human cloning
there would not be possible.
In a rapidly-aged clone, keeping the integrity of all
knowledge gained during the original beings lifetime
to that point is at stake. The adult clones initial
memory ability is compromised to the extent that the
clone may appear befuddled or momentarily at a loss
for words until the memory kicks in or the clones own
thinking aspect overrides the hesitation and covers,
so to speak. Since this is not highly unusual in
real people, it is not generally noticed with
suspicion in the cloned beings, but rather is
considered only a human imperfection.
The downloading of all information in the brain of the
original person or of the clone being replaced must be
done at the moment of the need for the new clone.
This can be done most successfully from the persons
brain to the first clone. Slight deterioration occurs
with every successive downloading procedure from the
outcast clone to its replacement. No, the original
brain cannot be used to circumvent this
deteriorationeven if that individual is still
alivebecause that original brain does not have the
same accumulated knowledge as the most recent cloned
entity. You can see that the identical store of
latest infor-mation is essential if the replacement
clone is to be accepted as the real person.

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/clonechanx.htm

[armoured_amazon]

I'm thinking that a lot of the clones are used so that they can be "houses' ,receptacles (a holding container) for a demonic entity(s)

Ratzinger looks like he is a receptacle for a lot of evil entities. Just my opinion.

I'll go along with that!

Some info on cloning from "Revelations for the New Era" by Matthew Ward:



Who was the model who didn't have a belly button?

Karolina Kurkova

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/magazine_enl_1227196127/img/laun.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6355016,00.jpg

Missing belly button: Victoria's Secret Angel's imperfect beauty

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/img/blog/blog181108_kk.jpg

They've got it all: killer smiles, glossy hair, long legs, toned, tanned bods, PhDs... ok maybe not. The Victoria's Secret 'Angels' are among the most glamorous and lusted-after women on the planet - but we found out that not all of them are as picture-perfect as they seem.

Czech model Karolina Kurkova stands out from the pack due to one unusual feature - her barely-there navel.

The 24-year-old often has a belly button airbrushed onto her photos in post-production, to fit in with the 'perfect' image of her fellow Victoria's Secret lingerie models.

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/img/blog/blog181108_kk3.jpg

"Karolina’s body is amazing, but her belly button is unusual," a source told Page Six.

"It disappears in photos, so we keep a collection of belly button shots in different positions, and Photoshop them on to her whenever she’s doing a bikini picture."

If Karolina was self-conscious about her unique belly, she doesn't show it - proudly flaunting her killer bod in photo shoots and on the runway.

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/img/blog/blog181108_kk2.jpg
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=252425&showcomments=true

[faulconandsnowjob]

still more from the book...

Powerful people are
being cloned now and have been cloned for many years,
and none of this started with good intent. Always it
has been for con-trol purposes. Some of your world
leaders were cloned many years past, and by now are in
the thirtieth or more versions of the original person.
The purpose of cloning those people is to create the
certainty of their longevity and maintenance of their
influence.
You can notice the abrupt and considerable change in
appearance toward vibrant health and youthfulness of
some world leaders as seen in TV films or photographs.
Usually this high robustness and stamina immediately
follows a day or a few days of absence from the public
eye after a period of increasingly evident aging
appearance. You attribute those remarkable
differences to the persons brief vacation or recovery
from a proclaimed illness, but here it is known that,
simply, a new clone has replaced the old one.
Yes, several clones are produced at the same time,
educated as I previously explained, and kept in
various places on your planet to be ever ready as
needed for the up-to-the-moment knowledge insertion
process. Many versions of the clones are necessary
because the art of this science has not been perfected
on Earth. The cloned adult bodies disintegrate far
more rapidly than same-age bodies having grown old
naturally. This is due partly to the accelerated
aging process from infant to adult body and partly to
the lack of skill in those scientists who perform the
various procedures. Earths third density atmosphere
also is a factor.

S: Hugo, excuse me, please. Are clones accepted by
the persons family? Surely they must be aware of
whats going on.

HUGO: The cloned individuals family members are, of
course, aware of the existence of the clone or clones,
and they participate in both the educational process
and the cover-up. If they resist, they themselves
are cloned, usually against their will, and their
clones carry on with public functions. In some cases
the original persons have died naturally, or they have
been killed if it served the purpose of still more
powerful people. Others are still living, although
never seen in public.
Only the clones are seen publicly.

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/clonechanx.htm

[lightgiver]

lower right= SCARY!!!
edit....now it's lower left

Its called getting older,which you shall all succumb to,no matter how much moisturiser and face lifts one as ;)Ha Ha,as soon as you are born you are getting old,better to grow old gracefully and happy.

The superman series was done yonks ago.:)

The TV as a lot to answer for with it endless garbage programming nonsense.

Yes i am afraid its a stepford wife fake world.

[amethyst]

Some info on cloning from "Revelations for the New Era" by Matthew Ward:



Who was the model who didn't have a belly button?

Funny, I was wondering about that myself...although Carolina Korkova's (?)may be from natural methods...."may' because who can know for sure?

Fritz Springmeier also mentioned about the accelerated growth of clones that can be developed at a much faster rate, as compared to natural human growth.

The process in human replication does not take an
incubation pe-riod of nine months. It is accelerated
by means of chemical additives and ideal circumstances
of laboratory makings.

I wonder what those 'chemical additives" are.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Souls & clones (from "Revelations for a New Era"):

...I shall address the very important
matter of a soul in a cloned body. As for a soul
being or not being in these man-made bodies, most
definitely, no soul is born in a cloned individual,
but a soul may choose to enter one. There is good
reason for a soul to enter, just as there is good
reason for a soul not to.
For a soul who has been waiting to experience in
physical form, it is an opportunity to do so in these
waning days before great changes within Gods plan for
raising consciousness of the planet and all of you who
are receptive. However, any soul who enters these
cloned bodies knows the risk of becoming trapped by
the dark forces that have per-vaded the psyche of the
original person and any predecessor clones.
This is a particularly important consideration as
brain functioning dete-riorates with each downloading
process, as I have mentioned, and thereby weakens a
souls mental resistance to becoming trapped. Also,
in later versions of the clones, longevity is not
long, so those bodies are not looked upon as the
paradise life one might suspect of an individual in a
highly influential position.
Why would any soul take on such a problem? The power
of such an influential position is exactly why some
souls are not only willing, they are eager to enter
the clone. They do so with the determination to
overcome the genetic structure, the influence of the
memory, and the inherent tendency to follow the
negative path that the original soul was on. When a
soul is very strong indeed, there is the will to
uplift the genetic and moral character to the point
that there does seem to be a turnabout in the
persons health, attitudes and activities. In such
cases, it is because the stronger souls higher
intention attracts the higher light energy that
enables it to infuse the cloned body with physical
stamina not available to those souls with less
resolve, and therefore the stronger soul can sustain
the bodys life force for a much longer period than a
weaker soul can.
Now you are thinking, how can any body live without a
soul? The chemical makeup of a physical body is such
that it is an independently functioning entity. Its
life force is sustained by its own energetic mo-mentum
derived from the elements and interacting processes of
nor-mal organic functioning. Therefore, a clone
without a soul has the same mobility and thinking
capacity as any normal body.
Let us address what is not in a clone without a soul.
First, emotions are not the givens they are in a
naturally created human. A soul-less clone has to
acquire the appearance of emotions in accordance with
its surroundings, perhaps what is expected of a
regular guy or maybe a member of high society. It
is only conformance to the circle in which the clone
moves that gives it the appearance of having emotions.
But the most essential lack in a clone is the
spiritual aspect that is inherent in a baby born from
the egg and sperm of its parents.
The soul life force encompasses those aspects of
beingness that are the bonding with Godconscience,
intuition, sense of self at a higher plane than normal
conscious functioning. So, neither those ties with
God nor natu-ral emotions are within the soul-less
cloned individual. Instead, there is a mechanical and
mental aspect of what is appropriate to do or say.
Once mastered, that ability is as proficient as if the
person had spent a lifetime accumulating wisdom and
behaving properly...

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/clonechanx.htm

[supertzar]

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/img/blog/blog181108_kk2.jpg
Nice camel toe on the left there.

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Is it possible for a normally conceived person to be born w/o a belly button? Do test tube babies have umbilical chords? They are implanted into a womb & gestated normally, right?

[amethyst]

I think clones can also go thru the national gestational period that a normal fetus goes thru. Just that the clones have DNA material taken and then developed in a test tube, which is then inserted into the womb of a woman-so the actual birthing process looks natural, but the original DNA came from somewhere else.
I'm just speculating, as I don't suspect all clones are accelerated rapidly....just the ones possibly, that they want to use temporarily and then discard after their usefulness has worn off.

[amethyst]

^ Is it possible for a normally conceived person to be born w/o a belly button? Do test tube babies have umbilical chords? They are implanted into a womb & gestated normally, right?

I think there might have been another thread about that. I would think tho, that you would to have a bellybutton in order to get nourishment while in the womb if you were a normally developed individual.

[kiwimaj]

Lily Allen

MK sex-kitten Lily Allen is featured in the latest issue of Q magazine. Posing with black panthers... (cat alter)
She's dressed in black and white, fake fur (fur as a cat's fur...), and has a short chequered skirt on (remember the chequered floors...).

Q Magazine: "She is, of course, as playful as a pussycat with an occasional touch of ferocity, so taking that as our cue for our cover shoot, we paired the singer with a black panther." :rolleyes:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7141/q273lilyspread.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6347/carousellily3740436a.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7612/633709930985964515.jpg


Hi Lost

Really glad you posted on Lilly, I had been meaning to. If people remember, a while back she was this young, impish, f**k the system girl, drinking a bit too much, depressed and telling everyone on facebook or myspace etc..very vocal with her thoughts, strong and forthright, normal sized, feminine girly...

...now we have this, like so many others, like Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavene and the others, turned into some sort of robot..even when she was interviewed on Jonathon Ross, she was subdued and not the Lilly we are use to. Anyone remember when she did a range of clothing for New Look?? Now she is just a pawn for the establishment, and it shows..

What about Kelly Osbourne, she keeps checking into "rehab", she seems a definite rebel, someone they can't seem to control..
http://loveshowbiz.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5534abfee8833010536e74230970b-400wi

http://www.geocities.com/cosmicgurl90/kellyosbourne.jpg

[amethyst]

still more from the book...

This is why they say that aliens/nephilim supposedly have been taking human DNA and biological material from many of the abductees, because the idea of cloning originated with them, which they then passed down to the elite and have been perfecting their techniques ever since.

[armoured_amazon]

This is why they say that aliens/nephilim supposedly have been taking human DNA and biological material from many of the abductees, because the idea of cloning originated with them, which they then passed down to the elite and have been perfecting their techniques ever since.

Yup, because they're trying to do what the Creator does, but they'll never perfect it.

[amethyst]

Yup, because they're trying to do what the Creator does, but they'll never perfect it.

And they've messed with all the innocent animals too by taken their biological material. That's why they have all those cattle mutilations going on and such. :mad:

[armoured_amazon]

And they've messed with all the innocent animals too by taken their biological material. That's why they have all those cattle mutilations going on and such. :mad:

:mad: Karma's gonna be a bitch.

[amethyst]

:mad: Karma's gonna be a bitch.

Definitely.

[lostworld]

Faulcon,
Thanks for posting all that great info on clones. :)
I'm still reading through it...

[lostworld]

Hi Lost

Really glad you posted on Lilly, I had been meaning to. If people remember, a while back she was this young, impish, f**k the system girl, drinking a bit too much, depressed and telling everyone on facebook or myspace etc..very vocal with her thoughts, strong and forthright, normal sized, feminine girly...

...now we have this, like so many others, like Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavene and the others, turned into some sort of robot..even when she was interviewed on Jonathon Ross, she was subdued and not the Lilly we are use to. Anyone remember when she did a range of clothing for New Look?? Now she is just a pawn for the establishment, and it shows..

What about Kelly Osbourne, she keeps checking into "rehab", she seems a definite rebel, someone they can't seem to control..
http://loveshowbiz.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5534abfee8833010536e74230970b-400wi

http://www.geocities.com/cosmicgurl90/kellyosbourne.jpg

Hi Kiwimaj! :)

Oh, that photoshoot was too obvious not to post... :rolleyes: :p
It's so "in your face"...

Yes, it seems like all these girls have to go through the same procedure of "neutralization". I'm SO glad I'm not famous - they would have me stepforded right away... ! :p

Kelly Osbourne (Oz-born? ;))? Maybe she's immune or something?
I mean with that father of hers who himself has claimed that he many times was possessed by evil spirits etc - who knows what runs through that girl's blood... :eek:

[tebby]

^ Is it possible for a normally conceived person to be born w/o a belly button? Do test tube babies have umbilical chords? They are implanted into a womb & gestated normally, right?

two of my friends were born with no belly button. I know one of my friend's stomach area wasn't fully developed...not sure about the other person's reasoning's.

[mountainwarrior]

Mountainwarrior posted this (above) not so long ago so I chose not to take what he/she now says litterally...

Anyway, there is no way this thread is ending any time soon... There is still much work to be done."

ya'll are still addicted to tv and movies and even now that you know a little of what goes on behind the scenes you're still obsessed with celebrities.

the celebrity worship on this thread sickens me.

even when i was a sheople i always hated celebrities.

and you keep quoting fritz springmeier like he's the end all be all of truth.

when in fact most of his work is disinformation mixed in with a bit of truth here and there and he was under heavy mind control himself.

so continue to waste your precious time and energy gawking and awing and analyzing ridiculous pictures of celebrities.

i will be growing my garden, fishing, hunting, and creating works of art.

ps i started the alex jones = bill hicks conspiracy theory :D

[lostworld]

ya'll are still addicted to tv and movies and even now that you know a little of what goes on behind the scenes you're still obsessed with celebrities.

the celebrity worship on this thread sickens me.

even when i was a sheople i always hated celebrities.

and you keep quoting fritz springmeier like he's the end all be all of truth.

when in fact most of his work is disinformation mixed in with a bit of truth here and there and he was under heavy mind control himself.

so continue to waste your precious time and energy gawking and awing and analyzing ridiculous pictures of celebrities.

i will be growing my garden, fishing, hunting, and creating works of art.

ps i started the alex jones = bill hicks conspiracy theory :D

Mountainwarrior,
I don't know what made you turn 180 like that - is it you or your alter posting all of this nonsens? :rolleyes:

We quickly went from this (your words)
just started reading this fascinating thread.

long time researcher myself of mind control.

thx to all those who have contributed.

to this

ya'll are still addicted to tv and movies and even now that you know a little of what goes on behind the scenes you're still obsessed with celebrities.

the celebrity worship on this thread sickens me.

:confused:

I think Mountainwarrior might have been Stepforded... :D :eek:

So we "worship celebrities" when we post about them regarding MK?
If we're gonna look for symbolism and mind control it's really hard not to involve the celebrities... :rolleyes:
And why shouldn't we? The artists and the actors are the poster children for mind control - it's both tragic, sad AND important and should be brought to the light for everyone to see.

It's in the celeb world all the MK action is - whether you like it or not. :p
AND how can it be "worship" to talk about what's really going on in this world and make other people see it too? I know that this thread has helped a lot of people to open their eyes, or to just confirm what they already knew... I'm really happy about that :)
So, I don't know how you can twist it like that - that's really crazy talk and an insult to both me and all the good and smart people here that have been contributing to this thread.

Btw - hate is not the way. Why do you "hate" celebrities? Not all of them are bad... Some are very talented, smart etc.
I don't know how many that have sold their soul for fame, and how many that are actually tragic victims right from early start BUT I do feel for mind control victims that are trapped in their own bodies. AND for people that are killed in "suicide" and those who were replaced etc.

Many of the celebrities are good people and really hurting. Not all of them are bad. So don't generalize :(

AND there is no "fact" that Fritz Springmeier is disinfo - if anything it's quite the contrary actually...

i will be growing my garden, fishing, hunting, and creating works of art.
Enlightened people are not hunters... :mad:

[onourwayto2012]

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/img/blog/blog181108_kk2.jpg
Nice camel toe on the left there.

Definitely worth quoting!

[faulconandsnowjob]

Quote:
i will be growing my garden, fishing, hunting, and creating works of art.

Enlightened people are not hunters...

I couldn't agree w/ you more, Lostworld!

Mountainwarrior, I don't think your rant is really worth commenting on other than saying at least we're not hurting or killing anyone. Maybe you should consider less violent hobbies.

[mountainwarrior]

yes the thread started out good, i was impressed.

then after you started posting 1000's of photos paul/'faul' and other despicable 'celebrities' it got quite annoying. about 100 pages of this thread is equal to reading a celebrity rag at the supermarket.

Springmeier is well known disinfo to those of us who have done our research.

The way you continue to use random, wild quotes from his books like they are the epitome of truth is absurd

He is well known to be a programmed multiple himself.

Pray tell, why weren't the Windsors mentioned in his 13 bloodline book?

Also you're off your rockers with your vegetarian bullshit. The NWO thanks you for that. PETA whom you support in this thread is a very obvious and well known NWO front org, and vegetarianism is fully promoted and supported by the NWO at every turn.

But please continue with your national enquirer commentary.......

[faulconandsnowjob]

He is well known to be a programmed multiple himself.

Oh, it's "well known," is it? Then cite a source that supports that.

Also you're off your rockers with your vegetarian bullshit. The NWO thanks you for that. PETA whom you support in this thread is a very obvious and well known NWO front org, and vegetarianism is fully promoted and supported by the NWO at every turn.
I don't know where you come up w/ that BS. Big Agribusiness makes the Elite tons of money by feeding off of others' misery.

You just make blanket statements that aren't supported by anything. Whatever. :rolleyes:

[orbandsceptre27]

yes the thread started out good, i was impressed.
then after you started posting 1000's of photos paul/'faul' and other despicable 'celebrities' it got quite annoying. about 100 pages of this thread is equal to reading a celebrity rag at the supermarket.
Springmeier is well known disinfo to those of us who have done our research.
The way you continue to use random, wild quotes from his books like they are the epitome of truth is absurd
He is well known to be a programmed multiple himself.


Didn`t you state this on one of the Rik Clay threads - "I don`t trust fat people nor do I trust ravers."

Now I`m not fat, or a raver - but what`s that all about?

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ I'll never understand why people keep reading threads they don't like & why they feel the need to post their opinions. Maybe it's their job. :D

[lostworld]

Never to be forgotten...

Famous people that were killed in a "car accident", "suicided", replaced or mind controlled:


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4176/995hacangelinajolie047.jpghttp://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7162/p201.jpghttp://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7346/187345.jpghttp://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9803/prod81937008.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9735/19805606554550559940.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9431/2630531.jpghttp://img9.imageshack.us/img9/782/princessdiana1.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8310/sino.png

[faulconandsnowjob]

^
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2127/mgbountysmallas9.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3305/989dcmnicolekidman033bq5.jpg

[lostworld]

.

Springmeier is well known disinfo to those of us who have done our research.

The way you continue to use random, wild quotes from his books like they are the epitome of truth is absurd

He is well known to be a programmed multiple himself.:


Oh, it's "well known," is it? Then cite a source that supports that.

I agree with Faulcon - sources please :rolleyes:
To say that something is "well known" is just lame... That's the worst argument you can ever have! :p

And who are you to say that we haven't done our research? If you were so "impressed" in the beginning - surely you must have noticed that there were research behind it...

Self proclaimed experts who think they know it all are always very dangerous...AND possible disinfo's :eek:
BUT I would be very careful to call someone "disinfo" - after all, WHO has the proof for anything? It's all just speculation... if the truth was out none of us would have to be here anymore...

Also you're off your rockers with your vegetarian bullshit. The NWO thanks you for that. PETA whom you support in this thread is a very obvious and well known NWO front org, and vegetarianism is fully promoted and supported by the NWO at every turn.

Right... :D
Again - sources would be good...

You know, if NWO would be against all this mass-slaughtering of innocent animals that's going on today (and that you seem to be so fine with) it really can't be all that bad... :p
So vegetarism is pro NWO and what's going on in the world today is anti-NWO? :rolleyes:

Guess I'm pro-NWO then :):rolleyes:

[lostworld]

Great Faulcon! :)

I just wanted to put together a little collage for those who must never be forgotten. I knew I couldn't fit everyone in there though... But Paul was there! ;)

All in the name of "worship" of course... :D

Also:
Heath Ledger

First they kill you, then they reward you... :(
(Heath Ledger got a posthumous Oscar for his work in the Dark Knight)

The psuedo-occult media blog did an excellent post on Heath just recently:
http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/01/all-of-them-dark-knights.html

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/213/heathledger.jpg

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Yes, I noticed Paul was there <333 Yes, I worship him, lol :D

Quote:
Also you're off your rockers with your vegetarian bullshit. The NWO thanks you for that. PETA whom you support in this thread is a very obvious and well known NWO front org, and vegetarianism is fully promoted and supported by the NWO at every turn.
Right...
Again - sources would be good...

You know, if NWO would be against all this mass-slaughtering of innocent animals that's going on today (and that you seem to be so fine with) it really can't be all that bad...
So vegetarism is pro NWO and what's going on in the world today is anti-NWO?

Guess I'm pro-NWO then

I couldn't agree w/ you more! If the NWO brings an end to the slaughter of the innocents, then I'm all for it. Anyway, does anyone really think the Illuminati somehow supports being kind to animals? People receive ridiculously severe sentences when they try to save animals from being tortured to death, while the people who do the torturing are pretty much immune from prosecution. That's just disinfo. The Illuminati don't support animal welfare. If they did, then billions of animals ayear would not meet a very cruel end :-(

[lostworld]

^ Yes, I noticed Paul was there <333 Yes, I worship him, lol :D



I couldn't agree w/ you more! If the NWO brings an end to the slaughter of the innocents, then I'm all for it. Anyway, does anyone really think the Illuminati somehow supports being kind to animals? People receive ridiculously severe sentences when they try to save animals from being tortured to death, while the people who do the torturing are pretty much immune from prosecution. That's just disinfo. The Illuminati don't support animal welfare. If they did, then billions of animals ayear would not meet a very cruel end :-(

Precisely. If the Illuminati were pro-animal rights the world would already look different! That's how much power they have.
You would see big campaigns that were against meet, trying to effect the public etc. Or more radical strategies...
Main point - it would certainly not look like this!

[yeshua]

ya'll are still addicted to tv and movies and even now that you know a little of what goes on behind the scenes you're still obsessed with celebrities.

the celebrity worship on this thread sickens me.

even when i was a sheople i always hated celebrities.

and you keep quoting fritz springmeier like he's the end all be all of truth.

when in fact most of his work is disinformation mixed in with a bit of truth here and there and he was under heavy mind control himself.

so continue to waste your precious time and energy gawking and awing and analyzing ridiculous pictures of celebrities.

i will be growing my garden, fishing, hunting, and creating works of art.

ps i started the alex jones = bill hicks conspiracy theory :D

*yawn* another patronizing person projecting onto other people. You don't know any of us so you really need to stop assuming things. I hardly ever watch TV, never watch award shows, and you wouldn't find the music I listen to on the pop charts. If you find this thread so beneath you why don't you just leave instead of spreading negative energy.

[orbandsceptre27]

I agree Faulcon - it`s not often someone switches to their middle name like that. Most likely he preferred the name Paul and decided to stick with it. Many artists, especially writers, go under "pen names" but that`s usually to deflect attention from their own personal lives.




You`re right with Paul and James as 9 and 5 respectively. McCartney though is an 8 instead of a 9. So "James McCartney" comes to 4, "Paul McCartney" is an 8 and "James Paul McCartney" is 22/4 the frequency of the Master Builder which I mentioned (indicating an old soul).

Generally in numerology if you want to find the entity number of an individual then use only the name(s) the individual commonly goes by, i.e how a person signs their name etc. In McCartneys case it was simply "Paul McCartney." To get a fuller indication of the entity then take the full birth name as it was written on the birth certificate.

For example, "Bob Geldof" was born "Robert Frederick Zenon Geldof," - but presuming he now goes by the title "Bob Geldof" (and constantly signs his name as such) this is his entity number.

Jewish mystics are very particular about this and certain sects actually leave out the vowels in writing as these are considered the sacred sounds of God or "G_d" as they would write it. So your "soul number" is simply all the vowels in your name added together. James Paul McCartneys soul number was 1 (a+e+a+u+a+e = 19) {1 + 9 = 10/1}.

Of course McCartney is no longer with us, having being replaced by a doppleganger - but his imposter continues to use original Pauls frequency through his name, among other ways. So Billy is keeping the illusion of James Paul McCartney very much alive.

This continuance/carrying of the original frequency can be considered a spell and a very strong one at that, as few recognise that the original McCartney has been replaced long ago.

I`ve been alerted to a mistake I made in a section of numerology - I previously stated "McCartney" comes to an 8 under chaldean numerology, when it comes to a 1. I added it up properly two posts after this, but incorrectly here... d`oh! :eek: My apologies - Paul is 9, McCartney is 1 (and his middle name, James, is 5).

So Paul McCartney adds up to 1, and James Paul McCartney adds to 6 under chaldean numerology.

[truthseeker49]

Orb, was does that mean ?

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ Yeah, Orb, what does that mean to be a 6 or a 1? :confused:

[faulconandsnowjob]

The mind-control programmers need only have someone skilled in the manipulation of the cranial bones and the skull bones and they can with repeated delicate precision reshape a person’s skull and also his brain’s shape, thus manipulating the personality & looks. Photos of Marilyn Monroe (Erma Jean) during her life strongly suggest that type of cranial manipulation was done to her for mind-control purposes. 8: THE SCIENCE OF BODY MANIPULATION & PROGRAMMING Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula

A great deal that is coming out of Hollywood is linked to mind control in some fashion. Some of the hottest entertainers are Monarch slaves, such as Madonna, a Marilyn Monroe replacement. Co-author Fritz was given a catalog to Vidimax, which is an New Jersey occult porn video club by someone wanting to help his research. This cult video club sells actually snuff films. They sell the real life footage of cannibalism, virgin sacrifices, occult rituals, and worse. When Madonna was a teenage slave with the name Louise Chiccone living in NY East Village, a real life film was made of her being raped (a setup), and then her cult family taking the rapist and sacrificing him. Vidimax sells this for $19 to their members. Some of their videos are live footage of how kidnapped people have been tortured into becoming slaves. One of the catalog listing says, "tortured until their wills are broken and they become Olga’s submissive slaves!...WARNING EXTREME GRAPHIC VIOLENCE...BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND." The Illuminati Formula 12. External Controls

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

[faulconandsnowjob]

Mt. Shasta’s programming site, accessed by helicopter, specializes in reprogramming escaped slaves. Jerry Lee Lewis has a notorious reputation among the Network as being exceptionally sadistic in reprogramming escapees. However, if the slave is not needed, and is wanting out--tens of thousands of them have been locked up in mental hospitals as paranoid schizophrenics. In the mental hospitals they can continue to get drugs and electro-shock--the very things that caused their problems in the first place. The insiders have a name for these slaves, they call them "broken butterflies". The Illuminati Formula 12. External Controls

The daisy game, which was scary for a child, heightened the victim’s attention. Matrixes were built upon this deadly game. How did it feel to be programmed with Mengele’s "I love you, I love you not" programming? A victim recalls, "The child was placed in a cage exposed and naked. The low voltage wires were rigged to the metal of the cage. The child experienced a continual erratic or sporadic prolonged voltage of shock until the heart would pulsate and the anxiety level of the child became out of control. "Then the Dr. would enter the scene with his sneering taunting smile while holding a daisy in his hands. The sporadic voltage would continue to flow through the child’s body. As the shock continued, the Dr. stood before the child pulling petals off the daisy. His only communication was voiced in these words, "LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT," while pulling off the daisy petals. This action would drive the child crazy because the child knows full well if that last petal is pulled off it meant death. The child that is not loved is skinned alive before the other children. "...we can now begin to understand that the expendable children were in other cages placed all around us for the eye to see. They went through the same process as we watched. When the last petal of the daisy was pulled from the flower they were killed. The Illuminati Formula 11. Internal Controls

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

[faulconandsnowjob]

The movie Ghostbusters, which has been used for a programming script on some slaves, has a very strong demonic "Gatekeeper" in the show. The Illuminati Formula 7. Engineering & Structuring Of An MPD System
...
hey have found that ELF and VLF electro-magnetic waves can be used to control people’s thoughts. ... Harmonic generators (code named "ether-wave") are able to imbed detailed commands which are linked to audible triggers. This is one of the standard features of the Monarch program. It allows the slaves to be controlled by trigger words which make no sense or seem to carry no negative connotation to outside listeners. For instance the words, "Mr. Postman wait and see" (a Marionette command) might set off an access sequence so that a slave living away from its master goes to its master (also called a handler). The Illuminati Formula 6. The Use of Electricity & Electronics
...
There are four types of brain waves: alpha, beta, delta, and theta. The four basic models of Monarch slaves have the same names as these four types of brain waves. High level Illuminati models may have programming that includes all of these types. According to one ex(?)-government source, the CIA has been labeling their harmonic-created total Mind-controlled slaves by the following: Bravo 2 series models are men programmed to run the Beast computers. Delta series are models for espionage and assassination. Juliet series are sexual mind controlled slaves. Kilo 5 series is military espionage. Michael 1 series slaves are CIA agents under total mind-control. Operation Greenstar was the Mind-control project to create UFO abductions scenarios. Much of the high level programming in the 1980s and 1990s is no longer done with human programmers, but is done via programmed machines using drugs, electricity and harmonics. The Illuminati Formula 6. The Use of Electricity & Electronics
...
The songs the slave hears on the radio, will for instance have code words. The Programmers due to the corruption of the music industry knows what hit songs are coming out, and they will haul their slaves in and program them according to the lyrics of the soon-to-be hits. The lyrics will be written so that programmed meanings can be attached to certain words and lines The Illuminati Formula 5. The Skill of Lying, The Art of Deceit

Gatekeeper alters will appear near the surface of a system, and then again deep in the System about level 10, and 12. Gatekeeper alters are alters that the programmer must go through to get to deeper levels. The Gatekeeper alters are very heavily programmed to keep them in place. They will receive intensive lies. The Illuminati Formula 5. The Skill of Lying, The Art of Deceit
...
One man who was programmed as an Delta-type assassin by the NSA in the NJ region, was programmed to be activated for assassination mission via the David Letterman program, Clinton’s speeches such as his speech touching on the baseball strike with "little kid" wording, and by several movie stars (Arnold Schwartzenegger, Slyvester Stallone, etc.). Deeper Insights 4. The Use of Hypnosis
...
Another way to see things is to recognize that the programmers have created "power words" to which they have attached memory and programming. If a de-programmer observes closely the word usage of the victim, you will begin to spot power words of the abuser, for instance, "follow the yellow brick road".
Once the reader is aware of the types of programming themes used: the Wizard of Oz, Alice In Wonderland, and Star Wars and Star Trek, etc., he will begin to realize our entire American culture has been transformed into one big mind-control programming center during the second half of the twentieth century! Deeper Insights 4. The Use of Hypnosis

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

[faulconandsnowjob]

Monarch slaves are threatened with fire, like the Scarecrow. They also see people dismembered like the Scarecrow was dismembered. For them it is not an idle threat. The front alters also have hearts full of pain like Scarecrow. Certain alters are not given courage and most have their hearts taken from them. The alters who are programmed not to have hearts are hypnotically told the same thing the Tin Man says, "I could be human if I only had a heart." .....Some alters are taught they are stupid and have no brain. The Illuminati Formula 5. The Skill of Lying, The Art of Deceit
...

The recovering victim’s name is Chris De Nicola, b. 7/62. She worked full-time at Disneyland for 7 years (from ’83-’90). Her father Donald Richard Ebner worked with her major programmer who was Dr. Green. She received standard Illuminati trauma-based mind-control.
...
The All-Seeing Eye is used to represent the planet Sirius. Sirius is important to the Hermetic magicians, and some of the programmers are deeply into hermetic magic. Satan is said to come from Draco or Sirius, esp. the dog star Canis major. Masonic programming may well have the "blazing star" portrayed in the programming as a pentagram, with the name Sirius. Sirius may represent the Master, the creator of the system in some systems where the programmer is steeped in Masonic philosophy.Deeper Insights 4. The Use of Hypnosis

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

http://www.cartype.com/pics/3523/small/sirius-vw_logo.jpg
^ Sirius logo - dog star & pentagram (w/ VW)

[faulconandsnowjob]

O.J. Simpson case, which was planned based on previous murder scenarios which had been successfully covered up. O.J. Simpson was a CIA mind-controlled slave, and the entire Simpson case was concocted as an elaborate effort to cause racial tensions. The Mishpucka, the CIA, the Mob and the Illuminati have all had their dirty hands involved in the entire affair.
The entire affair reeks of manipulation and planning. It is not the goal of this paragraph to go into the case, but just to drop a couple details. Joey Ippolito, Jr. is both CIA & Mob. Ippolito at one time lived in Hallendale, FL, a mob housing subdivision which was protected by a police force run by the mob. He has helped run drugs and wet ops for "the Combination" which interconnects with the Illuminati. O.J. Simpson's friend Cowlings worked for Joey Ippolito, as well as O.J. Simpson. Simpson distributed cocaine for Joey Ippolito & the Combination. Simpson's lawyer also is tied to the Illuminati, the CIA, and the mob. One of his lawyers on TV said the trial reeked of government corruption. Nicole Simpson lived next door to Carl Colby (former CIA director Bill Colbys son). Colby's wife and kids have been subjected to mind-control. Colby's wife testified in O.J. Simpson's trial, but was addressed as "Miss Boe" rather than by her name. O.J. Simpson's mother worked for a California State Mental Hospital in San Francisco for 30 years. Many State Mental Hospital workers have children who have been programmed. When one of the jurors in Simpson's case, Tracy Hampton, had her mind-control programming go haywire, she began staring for long periods at a blank TV and hearing voices. She had to be dismissed. During the Simpson trial, Judge Ito gave Joe McGinniss the best front-row seat that a journalist could have. Joe McGinniss was the coverup author who wrote a book covering up about the McDonald-Fort Bragg Drug Smuggling Case. Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier: Disney

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

[faulconandsnowjob]

Sean Connery Totally Looks Like Ruhollah Khomeini
http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/sean-connery5.jpg

http://totallylookslike.com/2008/09/24/sean-connery-totally-looks-like-ruhollah-khomeini/

[faulconandsnowjob]

... [I]f a Monarch slave’s day to day alters want ego-gratification, a creative outlet, and reassurance of worth, the Illuminati may promise the slave that if the alters comply they will give them a singing contract in Las Vegas. If they need to appeal to their emotional security--they can promise a big salary and a nice house. If they need to appeal to immortality they can promise to award them a star on Hollywood Boulevard or whatever religious immortality they can credibly offer. (The slave will get the short end of any deal.) Anything the slave gets is going to come at a price. The slave will have to do something in return for the Network. Illuminati alters are promised power, honor, glory and wealth. Considering the power and wealth of the elite, they do have the resources to make good on this if they want. However, the price of obedience might be to shave one’s head in submission and sacrifice a child.
...
A note should be made that the American intelligence agencies tattooed some of their slaves with blue Monarch butterflies, bluebirds, or roses for identification purposes. The bluebird relates to the CIA project name Project Bluebird. Some satanic cults tatoo the “sign of the great Beast” on the heads of victims. They also place scars with occult designs on their victims. The Illuminati slaves, who are hierarchy members of the Illuminati, are not tattooed, although a hard-to-see scar consisting of dots in a triangle on the third eye is done to some members. The prohibition against marking up one’s body is not consistently enforced in the Illuminati--it seems this standard is enforced more with the women than the male Illuminati members. CIA slaves have received the Butterfly tatoos from the age of about 11 on up.
...
One of the basic ideas of creating a mind-controlled slave, is to control the entire milieu of the slave. This is expressed in Nexus Seven. The environment of the slave is designed for what is called “story immersion.” A Monarch slave who has been given the basic Alice In Wonderland and Wizard of Oz programming will see objects connected to these story lines in almost every store. Restaurants in Dallas and San Antonio (The Time Machine Restaurants) which are used to reinforce programming, have mirrors on their walls, doors and ceilings and their waitresses dressed like programming script characters--such as Dorothy of the Wizard of Oz. It is no accident that one of the leading Satanic singers calls himself Ozzy Ozburn, or that a certain Mexican witch calls herself Oz. It is no accident that recently a witch wrote the book The Witches of Oz. It is no accident that the elite have promoted the Wizard of Oz theme with television product advertisements. It is no accident that the U.S. has Oz stamps, that television has Oz cartoons, and Oz characters are appearing all over the place.

For a while even Kansas had an Oz theme to their license plates (“Land of Ahs”). Hillary Clinton, (a 6th level Illuminati witch & sadistic Monarch slave handler) received a witch’s hat in anticipation that she would be called the wicked witch of the West, and that Mary Matalin (who married Clinton’s top campaign advisor James Carville) had a photograph of Hillary Clinton as the Wicked Witch of the West on her wall with the caption “I will get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!” The witch’s hat and the caption both are popular with these people associated with the White House because they are so rich in triple and quadruple meanings. The deadliest meaning is that the Monarch Slaves that sexually service Hillary and Bill Clinton have Wizard of Oz programming. Hillary is really the Wicked Witch of the West! to these poor Beta slaves. The constant bumping into Wizard of Oz paraphernalia or pictures of it helps focus the slave’s mind onto their Wizard of Oz programming. MGM Grand recently built a multi-million dollar pyramid complex with a theme park which is based on the Wizard of Oz and the Alice in Wonderland themes.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml

[faulconandsnowjob]

... When Monarch slaves watch television, the shows they watch can relate to their programming in the following ways.

1. First, many of the shows have code words or programming scenarios which are deliberately in the shows to control the slaves: such as Star Wars, Star Trek, The Wizard of Oz, the Love Boat, Fantasy Island, I Dream of Jeanie (Delta Genie in the bottle programming, and “YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND” type trigger), The Little Princess, the Miss Universe Contest 1995, Duck Tails (created to control child slaves, with deliberate triggers such as “earthquack”), Bobby’s World cartoon, Steven Spielberg’s Tiny Toons, My Fair Lady (used in several of the slave finishing schools), ET (for alien programming), etc.

2. Some of the shows which are supposedly pure fiction show elements of actual Illuminati ceremonies, Illuminati history, drug running methods, etc., such Bell, Book & Candle, Burn Witch Burn, Curse of The Voodoo, Equinox, Manos, The Hands of Fate, Witchcraft ‘70, as Spirits of the Living Dead, Frankenstein, Night of the Living Dead, Bewitched (with actual witches as actors). Raising Cain shows torture and MPD. Hellraiser 3 depicts “gatekeepers.”

3. Some of the shows portray the Monarch total mind-control program (!): Telephon, The Manchurian Candidate, Videodrome, Labyrinth, Trancer II, The Attack of the Robots, Dr. Goldfoot & the Bikini Machine, Attack of the Puppet People, The War of the Zombies, Colossus-The Forbin Project, and The Point of No Return starring Jane Fonda’s Bridgett, who is connected to the OTO. (By the way, Monarch mind-controlled slaves have been shown the movie “Telephon” to emphasize to them that their minds are controlled by their handlers, and for them not to forget it.)

4. Many of the movies and shows use Monarch slaves as actors & performers: such as Rosanne Barr, Bette Mittler, Marilyn Monroe, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle and possibly Wayne Newton (a child singing protege, who never wrote a check for himself in his life). They also use lots of slave handlers such as Frank Sinatra, Peter Lawford, & Bob Hope. And occasionally the use programmers such as Anton LaVey, Jerry Lee Lewis. Cisco Wheeler, the co-author of this book, while in the Illuminati, was given repeated reason to believe that Elvis Presley was also a Multiple programmed by the Illuminati...

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml

Roseanne on Larry King (Aired August 16, 2001):

...
KING: OK, now the current issue of "Esquire," big article. You told "Esquire" that you were about multiple personality disorders, right?

ROSEANNE: Yes.

KING: OK.

ROSEANNE: I am so many disorders. That's just one of them.

KING: When did you have this disorder?

ROSEANNE: I have always had it I think, since I was real young.

KING: Do you have it now?

ROSEANNE: I'm more like used to have it than have it.

KING: But?

ROSEANNE: But occasionally, in times great stress, you know, I will regress.

KING: It comes back?

ROSEANNE: Yes.

KING: Explain it.

ROSEANNE: Well, I get the overwhelming urge to kill people and I'm sometimes not able to control it.

KING: Explain it, Roseanne.

ROSEANNE: Oh, OK. Explain what?

KING: Multiple personality disorder.

ROSEANNE: Well, it's a really confusing thing.

KING: Well, what happens?

ROSEANNE: It's a terrible disorder.

KING: When you have it, what happens?

ROSEANNE: Well, you just do crazy things that you don't really know you do or you don't want to do. You know.

KING: So Roseanne becomes someone else?

ROSEANNE: Of course.

KING: Like how many different people could you be in a week?

ROSEANNE: Well in a week? Well it's you know, it's infinite, infinite.

KING: You mean, endless?

ROSEANNE: I think what I am is a mirror. And when I'm around people, I pick them up and then I mirror them back. Do you know what I mean? So...
...

KING: All right, some see what you have or had as a serious psychological disorder.

ROSEANNE: I like how you just keep going.

KING: Others as psychological fad. Also...

ROSEANNE: A fad?

KING: Whether it's deliberately induced or naturally occurring.

ROSEANNE: Well, I have this head shrinker and he says it's deliberately induced because the CIA is where they started inducing it when after they brought all the Nazis over from Germany to run American Psychiatric Association.

KING: What are you about?

ROSEANNE: I'm telling you the truth. It is all mind control and all kinds of things to invent people with multiple personalities.

KING: So you have been captured by Nazis?

ROSEANNE: The government. Well in a way, I believe the government has implanted some kind of a chip into my head where...

KING: Roseanne.

ROSEANNE: You know, is monitored by Barbara Walters and these other women. And they take all my ideas and I'm, you know.

KING: Yes, is Oprah one of the people monitoring?

ROSEANNE: Of course.

KING: She's definitely in touch?

ROSEANNE: Definitely. I think she sits with her finger on the switch to the chip.
...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0108/16/lkl.00.html

[whiterain]

not really my area but i saw this rather odd video yesterday. what it shows i cant tell but it looks like shes either talking to her different personalities or just breaking down poor girl

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[orbandsceptre27]

Orb, was does that mean ?

Well 1 entities usually display great leadership qualities. They are seen as pioneers and independent thinkers who initiate their own paths forward in life.

6 entities tend to be well balanced, nurturing, sympathetic and responsible. The 6 in numerology, for want of a better expression, is "the pregnant number," or the number of love.

James Paul McCartney was born as a 6, but as he dropped James and was mainly referred to as Paul McCartney, his entity number became a 1 under the chaldean system.

[orbandsceptre27]

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

http://www.cartype.com/pics/3523/small/sirius-vw_logo.jpg
^ Sirius logo - dog star & pentagram (w/ VW)

Yeah the Volkswagen symbol (VW) is really three v`s (V = 6), so VW = 666 (W is also 6).

[lostworld]

Talking about robots/androids:

23. And some of these technophiles have gone a step farther, creating actual machine intelligences. These sentient computers are now, themselves, a force amoung the ruling Illuminati!

45. They have a variety of unhuman and inhuman servants. The dreaded Men in Black are perhaps their best-known agents. No one knows whether the MIBs are androids, golems, or something even worse. Perhaps they were once human . . .

The Illuminati FAQ, Abner Whateley
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/humor/illum50.html



Great info Faulcon, thanks! :)
For those of you who watched the X-files in it's prime - remember how they portrayed the MIB's, just as described above? And then also remember that what they show us is already reality... :rolleyes: :eek:

[lostworld]

What happened to her eye? You know, some celebrities have different eye sizes when they get older. Perhaps replaced? For example, Shannen Doherty from 90210 (the older series) use to have symmetrical eyes. Now her eyes look weird. Sorry for not supplying photos. Been a bit busy.

The weird eyes is a factor. I don't know if botox can have this effect....
I think it can though, since if injected wrong it paralyzes the wrong muscles - really important to get it right then...

Since the stars have access to the best beauticians and plastic surgeons this weird eyes really shouldn't be so coommon though... :rolleyes:

I've posted this pic of Nicole/Ficole before, early on the thread.
I really thought this was a wax doll of her! It's not.
Notice her weird eyes...

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7848/78172824.jpg


Another pic from the same event.
It's even more noticeable here...

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6910/78172826.jpg

[onourwayto2012]

Sean Connery Totally Looks Like Ruhollah Khomeini
http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/sean-connery5.jpg

http://totallylookslike.com/2008/09/24/sean-connery-totally-looks-like-ruhollah-khomeini/

man that one's as good as Ringo/Yasser Arafat

[lostworld]

MATTHEW: Knowing that these questions have been sent to you is partly why I said that some revelations may be shocking. First I shall speak about Pope John Paul.

The Pope so beloved and respected by many throughout your world was cloned several years ago when it became clear to the dark souls that he was a liability. Seeing that he was determined to hinder their aim of retaining their power over religious believers, they ended the physical life of the Light being John Paul. Since his soul elected not to enter the clone, he transitioned to Nirvana and has worked diligently to bring Light to all souls on Earth. In accordance with his soul contract and conscious desire, John Paul wanted to lift the people of the world above the confinements of the church dogma that was controlling them through deceit, and that did not serve the purpose of the dark souls who were bent on maintaining the status quo. Consider: What single influence during the past two millennia has been more divisive and has wielded more control over lives than religion, especially the Roman Catholic Church with its strategically established infallibility of its highest authority, the Pope? Although the clones that have been carrying on in the name of the Pope have publicly shown his gentleness, humility and loving spirit, it was to beguile, not to show the way to true spiritual growth. None of the reforms John Paul intended have come to pass. At the time of the downloading of his intelligence, knowledge, and experiential memories into the first clone, the clone was programmed to suppress John Paul’s divine inspiration to allow ancient records hidden in the Vatican to come forth and to share with the world's poor the vast wealth amassed by the church.

MATTHEW: ... The purpose of clones is to take over in case of death by any means so that the person’s powerful influence won’t be interrupted. The new Pope hasn’t the charisma and the love of the masses as did his predecessor, and if he died tomorrow, the Illuminati within the Vatican very likely would be gleeful that this most logical successor to John Paul was quickly out of their way and they could get one of themselves into the papacy. They had insufficient support to manage this at the election where the prevailing choice was Ratzinger because of his closeness to John Paul...

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/m...tthew_ward.htm

And, speaking of popes; I really don't like pope Ratzinger.
The first time I saw him I got an evil vibe from him... He's got really evil eyes too... very dark and sinister :eek:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5759/pope20benedict.jpg


Bad santa? No, just the new pope... :rolleyes:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2499/39166799.png

[armoured_amazon]

And, speaking of popes; I really don't like pope Ratzinger.
The first time I saw him I got an evil vibe from him... He's got really evil eyes too... very dark and sinister :eek:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5759/pope20benedict.jpg


Bad santa? No, just the new pope... :rolleyes:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2499/39166799.png

Agreed. Can you imagine going into confessional and seeing him behind the screen? :eek:

[faulconandsnowjob]

I don't know what to think of Ratzinger, BUT

Pope Benedict XVI totally looks like Darth Sidious from Star Wars

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/pope-benedict.jpg
:eek:

[armoured_amazon]

Lmao :D

[lostworld]

Agreed. Can you imagine going into confessional and seeing him behind the screen? :eek:

:D

Who would be the biggest sinner... :rolleyes:
Not me!

[lostworld]

I don't know what to think of Ratzinger, BUT

Pope Benedict XVI totally looks like Darth Sidious from Star Wars

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/pope-benedict.jpg
:eek:

:D

Not only do they look alike, the both work for the evil side (in my opinion)...

[faulconandsnowjob]

Not only do they look alike, the both work for the evil side (in my opinion)...

Well, I don't want to judge him too harshly b/c he apparently wasn't the Illuminati's choice AND a lot of info about child molestation in the Church has been coming out. He may be a light being trojan horse. :)

[amethyst]

Well, I don't want to judge him too harshly b/c he apparently wasn't the Illuminati's choice AND a lot of info about child molestation in the Church has been coming out. He may be a light being trojan horse. :)

Glad you added the "trojan horse" part :D

I highly doubt he is a light being. More like evil/darkness being. He wasn't called "Ratzie-Nazi" for nothing you know.

[lostworld]

25. The body has its own life force, so soulless clones are every bit as physically alive as any incarnated soul. What clones lack are the properties of a soul—emotions, especially the capacity to give and receive love; conscience, the sense of right and wrong; moral integrity and honor; intuition; and of course, the awareness of a godself. Clones without souls function totally within whatever measure of intellect and personality was downloaded from the person or a predecessor clone and by behaving in accordance with what they observe around them. Therefore, depending upon what was inherited from the cloned person and the environment in which it lives, a soulless clone may behave in a pleasant, helpful fashion. Clones may be, but not necessarily are produced by any civilization with the technological knowledge to do so.


Seems like clones and psychopaths have the same characteristics... :rolleyes:
I wonder if psychopaths are in fact soulless... :confused:

[amethyst]

Seems like clones and psychopaths have the same characteristics... :rolleyes:
I wonder if psychopaths are in fact soulless... :confused:

There's been some speculation on that.......

[faulconandsnowjob]

I wonder if psychopaths are in fact soulless...
Maybe, or maybe they're just dark souls. :eek:

[lostworld]

Even if the newly cloned individual initially appears
fresher and younger looking than the origi-nal person
or the predecessor clone, it quickly breaks down and
starts showing more advanced signs of aging in all
respects...



And there we have it again... :)
Just makes me even more convinced when this info is repeated from other sources.


Clone Cruise 2009
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3360/84730841.jpghttp://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3048/84674608.jpg



Just "bad aging"...? :rolleyes:

Brooke Shields, age 43
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3153/80329029.jpg


Julia Ormond, also 43
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5272/57960239.png


Mel Gibson, age 52
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9678/75478590.jpg

[lostworld]

I highly doubt he is a light being. More like evil/darkness being. He wasn't called "Ratzie-Nazi" for nothing you know.


I agree with you Amethyst :)

[lostworld]

There's been some speculation on that.......

Really? Since I've had a psychopath close to me I'm very interested in this subject. It's so draining for your soul being around a psychopath. It's like they feed on your energy somehow...

Do you have any more info on this Amethyst? Or could you give me any good links if possible? Thanks :)

[lostworld]

More from the book on how clones learn:

In this liquid the fetus continues to evolve normally
as if in a womb. When the fetus has reached term
development, it is removed from the fluid and is then
treated as if birth by natural means has occurred.
Except, of course, there is no umbilical cord to
treat. Minor cosmetic surgery remedies that absence
of the normal appearance.



You'd think they would have done a better job than this, if Karolina Kurkova is a clone... :rolleyes:



Missing belly button: Victoria's Secret Angel's imperfect beauty

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/magazine_enl_1227196127/img/laun.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6355016,00.jpg

http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/img/blog/blog181108_kk.jpg

[lostworld]

S: Hugo, excuse me, please. Are clones accepted by
the persons family? Surely they must be aware of
whats going on.

HUGO: The cloned individuals family members are, of
course, aware of the existence of the clone or clones,
and they participate in both the educational process
and the cover-up. If they resist, they themselves
are cloned, usually against their will, and their
clones carry on with public functions. In some cases
the original persons have died naturally, or they have
been killed if it served the purpose of still more
powerful people. Others are still living, although
never seen in public.
Only the clones are seen publicly.

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/clonechanx.htm


Amazing info, again - thanks Faulcon for posting all this... :)


Katie knows...
Here with the older version of Cruise____________ and here with her new, updated Cruise clone 2009
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2783/firstannualessenceblack.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6885/84400176.jpg

[lostworld]

Clone Cruise 2009

Tom Cruise is a clone...

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3360/84730841.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/425/84495158.jpghttp://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6468/84495119.jpg

[lostworld]

This is why they say that aliens/nephilim supposedly have been taking human DNA and biological material from many of the abductees, because the idea of cloning originated with them, which they then passed down to the elite and have been perfecting their techniques ever since.

Sadly, this seems to be the truth yes.

I'm glad that my beliefs all add up though. I've never believed in the world religions and could never conform to it. I've always believed in aliens though, since early childhood. That's how all this started. I've read a lot of Sitchin's work and he know's his stuff. Then if there is a 12th planet or if the aliens come from another dimension - I don't know/care. This explains everything I think, ancient anomalies etc too. It's all connected and therefore I believe it...

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8260/normalalienhybridembryo.jpg

[kiwimaj]

This is spooky....

I don't know if VB has been posted on here before, but she is a prime candidate...replaced, stepforded, cloned..you name it !

http://www.morphthing.com/showimage/2/0/0/3278144/Victoria-Beckham-and-David-Beckham.jpeghttp://wastedcelebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/victoria-beckham-400a070207.jpg

branded..

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2007/08/01-07/victoria-beckham-tattoo-neck.jpg

and controlled..

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/v/victoria-beckham/album-victoria-beckham.jpg

[kiwimaj]

Amazing info, again - thanks Faulcon for posting all this... :)


Katie knows...
Here with the older version of Cruise____________ and here with her new, updated Cruise clone 2009
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2783/firstannualessenceblack.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6885/84400176.jpg

..and doesn't she look so happy...not !! She was such a beautiful, vivacious, young girl before she met him...now with all that brainwashing and control...very sad. He has def changed over the past few years. As I have said previously, it looks like he is a-sexual now, like a woman who has had a sex change..very strange indeed...but not so if you realise what has REALLY been going on here !

[kiwimaj]

Mel Gibson, age 52
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9678/75478590.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I suppose they are waiting on the finishing touches to the new Mel, is he still in "rehab" after that (in)famous outburst?? It's all been a bit quiet..:rolleyes: :

[amethyst]

Really? Since I've had a psychopath close to me I'm very interested in this subject. It's so draining for your soul being around a psychopath. It's like they feed on your energy somehow...

Do you have any more info on this Amethyst? Or could you give me any good links if possible? Thanks :)

There is an article on the forum (forgot which category) about psychopathic individuals/spiritual vampires. I'll search around.

I've had some of those too in my life at times, and it is draining to be around them. It's like they want to suck the life right out of you. Not pleasant.

[lostworld]

The mind-control programmers need only have someone skilled in the manipulation of the cranial bones and the skull bones and they can with repeated delicate precision reshape a person’s skull and also his brain’s shape, thus manipulating the personality & looks. Photos of Marilyn Monroe (Erma Jean) during her life strongly suggest that type of cranial manipulation was done to her for mind-control purposes. 8: THE SCIENCE OF BODY MANIPULATION & PROGRAMMING Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula

A great deal that is coming out of Hollywood is linked to mind control in some fashion. Some of the hottest entertainers are Monarch slaves, such as Madonna, a Marilyn Monroe replacement. Co-author Fritz was given a catalog to Vidimax, which is an New Jersey occult porn video club by someone wanting to help his research. This cult video club sells actually snuff films. They sell the real life footage of cannibalism, virgin sacrifices, occult rituals, and worse. When Madonna was a teenage slave with the name Louise Chiccone living in NY East Village, a real life film was made of her being raped (a setup), and then her cult family taking the rapist and sacrificing him. Vidimax sells this for $19 to their members. Some of their videos are live footage of how kidnapped people have been tortured into becoming slaves. One of the catalog listing says, "tortured until their wills are broken and they become Olga’s submissive slaves!...WARNING EXTREME GRAPHIC VIOLENCE...BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND." The Illuminati Formula 12. External Controls

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

I've heard of that Madonna-tape before but never in this much detail.
It's really :eek: if true!

Madonna also made the official sex-movie "a Certain Sacrifice" (1979) where she gets it on with three sex slaves...

Pics from the movie
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7294/cstl23.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8995/cstl25.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4503/cstl2d.jpghttp://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5251/cstl22.jpg

More info and pics here:
http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://www.madonnashots.com/flow1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.madonnashots.com/1980.html&usg=__t6uF4OAi64UaBzT-4BwSAspQ3k4=&h=370&w=338&sz=26&hl=sv&start=15&um=1&tbnid=fAtN-loxQqcoZM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmadonna%2B%252B%2Ba%2Bcertain%2Bsacri fice%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv%26sa%3DN



Recognize her?
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/399/flow1.jpg

[amethyst]

Here's one thread on psychopaths.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54645&highlight=Psychopaths

[lostworld]

Mt. Shasta’s programming site, accessed by helicopter, specializes in reprogramming escaped slaves. Jerry Lee Lewis has a notorious reputation among the Network as being exceptionally sadistic in reprogramming escapees. However, if the slave is not needed, and is wanting out--tens of thousands of them have been locked up in mental hospitals as paranoid schizophrenics. In the mental hospitals they can continue to get drugs and electro-shock--the very things that caused their problems in the first place. The insiders have a name for these slaves, they call them "broken butterflies". The Illuminati Formula 12. External Controls

Broken butterflies... :rolleyes: How interesting.


The daisy game, which was scary for a child, heightened the victim’s attention. Matrixes were built upon this deadly game. How did it feel to be programmed with Mengele’s "I love you, I love you not" programming? A victim recalls, "The child was placed in a cage exposed and naked. The low voltage wires were rigged to the metal of the cage. The child experienced a continual erratic or sporadic prolonged voltage of shock until the heart would pulsate and the anxiety level of the child became out of control. "Then the Dr. would enter the scene with his sneering taunting smile while holding a daisy in his hands. The sporadic voltage would continue to flow through the child’s body. As the shock continued, the Dr. stood before the child pulling petals off the daisy. His only communication was voiced in these words, "LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT," while pulling off the daisy petals. This action would drive the child crazy because the child knows full well if that last petal is pulled off it meant death. The child that is not loved is skinned alive before the other children. "...we can now begin to understand that the expendable children were in other cages placed all around us for the eye to see. They went through the same process as we watched. When the last petal of the daisy was pulled from the flower they were killed. The Illuminati Formula 11. Internal Controls

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

So sick and shocking :eek: :mad:

[lostworld]

O.J. Simpson case, which was planned based on previous murder scenarios which had been successfully covered up. O.J. Simpson was a CIA mind-controlled slave, and the entire Simpson case was concocted as an elaborate effort to cause racial tensions. The Mishpucka, the CIA, the Mob and the Illuminati have all had their dirty hands involved in the entire affair.
The entire affair reeks of manipulation and planning. It is not the goal of this paragraph to go into the case, but just to drop a couple details. Joey Ippolito, Jr. is both CIA & Mob. Ippolito at one time lived in Hallendale, FL, a mob housing subdivision which was protected by a police force run by the mob. He has helped run drugs and wet ops for "the Combination" which interconnects with the Illuminati. O.J. Simpson's friend Cowlings worked for Joey Ippolito, as well as O.J. Simpson. Simpson distributed cocaine for Joey Ippolito & the Combination. Simpson's lawyer also is tied to the Illuminati, the CIA, and the mob. One of his lawyers on TV said the trial reeked of government corruption. Nicole Simpson lived next door to Carl Colby (former CIA director Bill Colbys son). Colby's wife and kids have been subjected to mind-control. Colby's wife testified in O.J. Simpson's trial, but was addressed as "Miss Boe" rather than by her name. O.J. Simpson's mother worked for a California State Mental Hospital in San Francisco for 30 years. Many State Mental Hospital workers have children who have been programmed. When one of the jurors in Simpson's case, Tracy Hampton, had her mind-control programming go haywire, she began staring for long periods at a blank TV and hearing voices. She had to be dismissed. During the Simpson trial, Judge Ito gave Joe McGinniss the best front-row seat that a journalist could have. Joe McGinniss was the coverup author who wrote a book covering up about the McDonald-Fort Bragg Drug Smuggling Case. Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier: Disney

http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

Very interesting. This case was so terrible and it felt insane that OJ was set free... :mad:

[lostworld]

There is an article on the forum (forgot which category) about psychopathic individuals/spiritual vampires. I'll search around.

I've had some of those too in my life at times, and it is draining to be around them. It's like they want to suck the life right out of you. Not pleasant.

Thanks Amethyst. Don't put any work into it, but if you'll find it again - or other good info on the same subject - please let me know. I would really appreciate it :) (Just pm me if it's not something for the thread.)

[lostworld]

This is spooky....

I don't know if VB has been posted on here before, but she is a prime candidate...replaced, stepforded, cloned..you name it !

http://www.morphthing.com/showimage/2/0/0/3278144/Victoria-Beckham-and-David-Beckham.jpeghttp://wastedcelebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/victoria-beckham-400a070207.jpg

branded..

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2007/08/01-07/victoria-beckham-tattoo-neck.jpg

and controlled..

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/v/victoria-beckham/album-victoria-beckham.jpg

Great observations Kiwimaj! :)

Hmm - maybe we should do some more research on the Beckhams? It has been suggested before...

I KNEW I had seen her with a panther! Great that you reminded me :)

[lostworld]

..and doesn't she look so happy...not !! She was such a beautiful, vivacious, young girl before she met him...now with all that brainwashing and control...very sad. He has def changed over the past few years. As I have said previously, it looks like he is a-sexual now, like a woman who has had a sex change..very strange indeed...but not so if you realise what has REALLY been going on here !

Yes, very sad indeed :(

very strange indeed...but not so if you realise what has REALLY been going on here

:D

[lostworld]

Mel Gibson, age 52
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9678/75478590.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I suppose they are waiting on the finishing touches to the new Mel, is he still in "rehab" after that (in)famous outburst?? It's all been a bit quiet..:rolleyes: :

I don't know the latest status. Last time I heard of him, autumn 2008, he was possibly having an affair and his wife threatened to leave him.

If they replace him with a new clone we surely will notice it right away :p

[lostworld]

Here's one thread on psychopaths.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54645&highlight=Psychopaths

Thank you so much Amethyst :)

Will check it out right away!

[kiwimaj]

http://wastedcelebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/victoria-beckham-400a070207.jpg

...she looked bloody miserable when she had a bit of meat on her, and with no meat on her, she looks bloody miserable..apart from the latest designer must have handbag, I wonder what does make her happy?? (from what I have heard and witnessed, it's a glass or two of wine...:D..)

[kiwimaj]

Great observations Kiwimaj! :)

Hmm - maybe we should do some more research on the Beckhams? It has been suggested before...

I KNEW I had seen her with a panther! Great that you reminded me :)

YES !! More research on them would be cool. But, here is an EXCELLENT article on them, by Matthew Delooze..

http://www.oneballradio.com/matthew_delooze/paint_your_wagon_david_beckham

an exerpt..

They are indeed prime examples of being symbolic walking monuments acting on behalf of the Serpent Cult. They have gained massive worldwide attention and that's just what the Serpent Cult wanted. They are now said to be worth hundreds of millions of pounds and they are household names all around the world. They are literally symbolic galactic icons and they have reached the minds, in some way or other, of the entire human race.

I realise David Beckham is/was a fairly good footballer but it appears his off field activities have created most of his wealth and let's face it ‘off field’ this bloke is not the sharpest tool in the box is he? Indeed he’s nearly as daft and stupid as me isn't he? What can I say about his wife Victoria? Talented is she?

I know she was a 'spice girl' but if there was any natural talent at all with the spice girls it wasn’t anything to do with Victoria was it? I have seen and heard better singers down the local working men’s club and they sing for £80 a night.

So what we have here in my honest opinion is a half decent footballer and an average singer that have been hyped to buggery and literally become two of the most celebrated gods and goddesses in the celebrity world. Millions of people actually worship this couple. Young girls and young men, yes young men, literally have an orgasm simply by looking at Beckham. What is it all about? What does it all mean? Who hypes such people to achieve celebrity god and goddess levels?

[lostworld]

not really my area but i saw this rather odd video yesterday. what it shows i cant tell but it looks like shes either talking to her different personalities or just breaking down poor girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIxGnlQ0IVY

Thanks for posting this Whiterain :)
We have been discussing this video some earlier and we came to the same conclusion as you - different alters/programming default :rolleyes:

So, very good observation :)

[faulconandsnowjob]

Then if there is a 12th planet or if the aliens come from another dimension - I don't know/care. This explains everything I think, ancient anomalies etc too.
My cetacean thread talks about that. I just posted an excellent book on there called ET 101: The Cosmic Instruction Manual, also available at http://www.soulwise.net/et-101.htm.

Some movies that deal w/ programming:

VIDEODROME
This recent movie portrays Monarch Mind Control and S&M. Mind-controlled slaves are frequently used to create S&M films. The Illuminati’s S&M porn film industry has been booming for over 4 decades. (Compare the name Videodrome with Vidimax mentioned above.) The porn films done of a particular Monarch slave who is used as a porn star will be coded according to the code name given to the star. Let’s say they call the Star “Lily”, then the porn movies will be cataloged Lily 1, Lily 2, Lily 3, etc. This type of porn involves a great deal of real torture, humiliation, and actual deaths of people. This type of porn is portrayed in the Hollywood movie Videodrome. The main character in Videodrome represents what a mind-controlled slave would see. The main character Max is told, “I want you to open up to me.” He then feels intense pain and doubles up and falls down, and submits, “all right.” Then he is ordered to “Give us channel 83.” He then proceeds under the mind-control to kill two partners, who he has previously liked and with whom he has had no quarrels. He is further told, “You are an assassin for Videodrome. They can program you. They can make you do what they want.” Interestingly, the name of the brand of cigars smoked on the show are named Medicis. He is told, “To become the new flesh you must kill the old flesh.” This is the type of suicide programming given Monarch slaves. He is ordered, “Come to Mickey.” Mickey happens to be part of Mickey Mouse programming and one of the nicknames of the programmer Michael Aquino. He is then shown a picture of suicide. Then the hypnotic command, “Come to Mickey” is said three times. “Long live the new flesh.” The movie announces, “The battle for the mind of North America will be fought in Videodrome.”

TRANCER II
This is also billed as a “cult classic”. Who decides what is a “cult classic”? At any rate, this is another film which depicts part of the Monarch total mind-control. We will not take the space to cover it in depth, but will touch on a few items here. The main character is McKnowlty which sounds a lot like MK Ultra. Is it a play on words? It could be. A council like the Illuminati’s with lifetime appointments is in the film. The persons under control in Trancer II bear some resemblance to the Monarchs. Some of the language that is used is lifted from the language that handlers use. “FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS, SLEEP, SLEEP, SLEEP” a person is instructed. “RABBIT SPEAKING”, “YOU BELONG IN A GREEN WORLD.” The movie also has Freeze codes which are a color.

KRULL
This 1983 movie with Ken Marshall and Lysette Anthony is just one more example of hundreds of Hollywood movies which show some aspect of the Illuminati &/or their mind-control. Krull is an island ruled by sorcery. A prince searches for a magic ornament to save his bride and their kingdom. The film has a poppy field, castles, an All-Seeing-Eye, armies of robots, Satan, and other features that a Monarch internal world will be set up with. A person can turn into a dog, pig or lion.

THE LITTLE PRINCESS
This Shirley Temple movie was just one of many Hollywood films used for programming. The princess has a nice “dream”. Slaves are programmed to view their service in the real world as dreams, and their fantasy worlds in their internal mind as reality. The Princess has a scene with hot cross buns and ravens. This scene was used for programming. The Princess sits on a throne. There are fairies and a joker, which are used in programming. The father is said to be dead, but is not dead in this movie---thus creating the type of reversal that the programmers like to work into the minds of slaves. A rich genie helps the princess, and when she finds her Daddy, she wakes him up with a kiss and a song. The girl’s name is Sarah, a name which appears within a number of Monarch system’s as an alter name.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml