Stepford wives

[rebelrobot]

Thanks a lot - it's good to be here.

[emerald]

Just to let you all know , I have a major problem with this thread. Since discovering it , I have done hardly any real work , my family are suffering from neglect (they never see me now because I'm too busy reading this ) and my home hasn't been cleaned for weeks ( what dirty dishes ? ).

In short , I am addicted to not only this thread but this forum.

So , for the sake of my health , relationships and finances , would you all please stop posting your fascinating , mind-blowing and amazingly-researched information !!

( Only joking- love it all , keep it coming ! )

:D:D:D Keep it like that! Its more than benefic to ur health!

[wakeuptime]

Just to let you all know , I have a major problem with this thread. Since discovering it , I have done hardly any real work , my family are suffering from neglect (they never see me now because I'm too busy reading this ) and my home hasn't been cleaned for weeks ( what dirty dishes ? ).

In short , I am addicted to not only this thread but this forum.

So , for the sake of my health , relationships and finances , would you all please stop posting your fascinating , mind-blowing and amazingly-researched information !!


I had the same problem, Rebelrobot, and now I'm addicted to posting as well.

Welcome to the group. Truth hits us hard.

[sheepy]

I don't know if it is just me but don't you think that full body tattoos look...er how to put this tactfully...well...a bit like scales from a distance? :o

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/news/gallery/2007/jun/21/japan.internationalnews/GD3762927@06-Aug-2003,-Tokyo,-J-5258.jpg

http://gitagemintang.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/female-full-body-tattoo.jpg

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2007/11/14/full-body-tattoos_1822.jpg

[lostworld]

Great info on Beckham, AA and Wakeup! Thanks :)

[lostworld]

Just to let you all know , I have a major problem with this thread. Since discovering it , I have done hardly any real work , my family are suffering from neglect (they never see me now because I'm too busy reading this ) and my home hasn't been cleaned for weeks ( what dirty dishes ? ).

In short , I am addicted to not only this thread but this forum.

So , for the sake of my health , relationships and finances , would you all please stop posting your fascinating , mind-blowing and amazingly-researched information !!

( Only joking- love it all , keep it coming ! )

:D :)

Welcome to Stepford Rebelrobot. Glad to have you here :)

[hermajesty]

I don't know if it is just me but don't you think that full body tattoos look...er how to put this tactfully...well...a bit like scales from a distance? :o


YES, they do :eek: I've never been big on tattoos, & certainly not full-body ones. Maybe it was a subconscious revulsion to the lizard-look?

Welcome, Rebelrobot :)

[noctua]

I read an article in the Daily Mail last week about that girl who was kept captive in Austria (Natascha Kampusch) and regardless of the crappy newspaper in which the article appears, I found it very well written and really quite disturbing in her apparent methods of dealing with the aftermath.

Is Natascha Kampusch missing the monster who kept her prisoner in his cellar?

By Steve Boggan and Mike Leidig
Last updated at 7:59 AM on 06th January 2010


When you hear the latest chapter in her tortuous story, it is difficult not to see Natascha Kampusch, wraith-like and alone, sitting in the dungeon where she was held captive for eight-and-a-half years, asking herself question after question. Natascha, combative and friendless.

Natascha, who has bought the house in which she was held prisoner. Natascha, media enigma - 'sometimes a princess, sometimes a witch', she says. And you wonder how it will all end.

Since the day in August 2006 when Natascha fled from captivity in Strasshof an der Nordbahn, just outside Vienna, the web of intrigue around her has grown ever more dense.

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Troubling: Kidnapping victim Natascha Kampusch has bought the house she was held captive in and carries a pictured of her abductor Wolfgang Priklopil


She was just ten when she was abducted by 36-year-old Wolfgang Priklopil and, at first, her escape was a source of national rejoicing for Austrians.

She was an intelligent and pretty 18-year-old whose dreadful story had had a happy ending of sorts.

She had grown up in an underground cell, relying on her abductor for food, light - even air - and had emerged remarkably intact, articulate and more than willing to tell her tale in newspapers, magazines and on television.



But then doubts crept in. For Austrians, who tend to be instinctively private, there was a little too much of Natascha in the media, of Natascha pontificating about Austria, of Natascha's ordeal and people's reaction to it. And in 2008, of Natascha with her own TV chat show (which was a flop).

There was her seemingly cruel rejection of the father who had never given up looking for her.

There was the empathy she seemed to radiate for the man who abducted her and who threw himself in front of a train after her escape. And, perhaps darkest of all, there were rumours that other men had been involved whom she refused to name.

So it was with a mixture of excitement and trepidation that Austrians learned that the media- savvy Natascha had agreed to let a television film crew into her life once more - but this time to take them into the house of horror that she has bought for a reported £250,000 and, ominously, into the dungeon where she was held captive.


The result, Natascha Kampusch: 3,096 Days Imprisonment, to be screened later this month, paints a disturbing picture of a lonely and sad young woman trying desperately to find her place in the world.

It reveals how she is spending more and more time on her own in the house that was her prison and, while her relationship with her own family seems to deteriorate, Natasha confides that she is planning to hold a meeting with Priklopil's mother - and that she has even bought his car.
'Are we witnessing a brave young woman confronting her demons? Or a tragic victim retreating deeper and deeper into a dangerous obsession?'

So, what is going on? Are we witnessing a brave young woman confronting her demons? Or a tragic victim retreating deeper and deeper into a dangerous obsession?

Natascha is now 21 and protected by a manager and teams of social workers and lawyers. Whether or not they are doing a good job is a moot point; she seems constantly haunted by her ordeal, even though on the outside she is eerily cool and confident.

Describing the awfulness of her kidnapping, Natascha tells the TV documentary: 'When he grabbed me, I wanted to scream, but my voice would not come - my vocal cords had just stopped working.

'He bundled me into his white van wrapped in a blue blanket. That journey took about an hour, and when we arrived I saw where he was taking me - and that it took him all his strength to push aside the door to the cellar.

'He tore the shoes from my feet and burned them. "You won't be needing those now," he said.

'Then he put me inside. The cellar was cold, damp, disgusting. I was preserved alive like an Egyptian pharaoh. I would lie awake at night wondering what would happen to me if he were to die or be unable to come back for me. Would I die and nobody would ever know?'

During the years that followed, Priklopil slowly allowed Natascha out of her cell and into the house upstairs. But only to work as a virtual slave.

'He integrated me increasingly into his household, but I was always sent back into the cellar when anyone came,' she says. 'And then when they had gone he would tell me all the details of what they had done together. But I could never meet them.

'He was a finicky person who wiped down every surface after I touched it - not just to hide any traces of me, but because he was obsessional about tidiness.

He made me bind my hair with clips and wear a plastic shower cap to catch any hair that might fall out when I was upstairs. Later, he made me shave myself bald, saying it was for hygiene reasons.

'He forbade me to cry because he didn't want salt traces anywhere. When I did cry, because I could not help it, he choked me. And he pushed my head under a basin of water if I left so much as a fingerprint on a glass surface or a door handle.


'When I had the chance to escape, I took it - I ran as fast as I could, as fast as my legs could take me.'

Natascha was soon to find out that escaping was not the same as being free. Quickly, as it emerged that she had been out shopping and even on a skiing vacation with Priklopil, people began to ask why she hadn't escaped sooner.

Austrian journalists wanted to know whether she had been sexually assaulted or, as some claimed, used by a paedophile pornography ring.

Her reticence to answer questions fully was seen by some as deliberate obstruction of the police investigation into her abduction. But she had clearly drawn a line and was determined not to cross it.

'When I was free, I remember the first indication of the interest in my case,' she recalls. 'I can remember the flashes from the photographers that were standing outside the police station.

'Since then I have seen a lot of headlines about myself, but what can I say? Sometimes I'm a princess, sometimes I am a witch. Now I am an outlaw for life. It is like I have a stamp on my forehead that says: "I am a victim of violence."

'I live in an almost completely withdrawn way in Vienna and almost never go out in public. I have no idea what to do in my life. I feel like a plant which gets swamped somewhere and strikes roots for a short while - only to get swamped further.'

She says she tries to keep herself busy, but even her pastimes are solitary and rather sad.

'At the moment, I have my favourite activity which is reading. And I love to breed cacti,' she says. 'I have even managed to reproduce them. I am also studying, and practising with my computer, and taking photographs.

'I prefer to photograph inside. Glasses on a table, a few leaves from the Ficus benjamina over there (pointing), the way the light falls in a room, just details. And I paint - oils, acrylics - and I draw. But, yes, I am lonely.'

Some see an oddity, others a symmetry in the fact that Natascha spends so much time in the house where she was held captive.
'I forgave him everything, otherwise I would have been filled with too much hate and negative feelings-that would have left me psychologically and physically at square one,' she says.

Asked what her plans were for it and why she was often cleaning, tidying and staying there, she says prosaically: 'You might just as well ask why someone goes to the hairdressers. It's practical to clean. For good or bad, this was my home.

'One thing I will say, if I choose to sell it, I will make certain that the cellar is filled in.'

And why buy Priklopil's BMW? 'I don't have a driving licence,' she says evasively. 'But the car is driven regularly just so that it doesn't get rusty.'

One of her aides says buying the car is simply a way of preventing another crackpot from getting hold of it, yet Natascha seems to demonstrate an attachment for all things Priklopil - she even carries his picture with her.

'I forgave him everything, otherwise I would have been filled with too much hate and negative feelings-that would have left me psychologically and physically at square one,' she says.

'I think he suffered deep wounds as a child that retarded his conscience. It awoke in me a kind of sympathy, compassion.'

All of which might explain her desire to meet Priklopil's mother, 67-year-old Waltraud Priklopil. 'I do feel the time is right to meet Mrs Priklopil,' says Natascha. 'Within the next two months we have arranged to make contact.'

But it does not explain the rejection of her father, Ludwig Koch: 'I haven't been in touch since he let me know via the media that I neglected him on Father's Day. I have not understood my father for a long time. He is kind of strange.'

Rumours persist that Priklopil did not act alone. Immediately after her abduction, he is supposed to have used his mobile phone, telling Natascha: 'The others aren't coming.'

If there were others, is it possible she developed an attachment to them, too, and is covering for them?

She says, cryptically: 'I could, of course, say how it really was, but I don't have to. I don't have to justify myself about things that are said speculatively about me and that are nothing to do with the facts.

'As far as I'm concerned, I never saw anyone else and I don't know any other accomplice.'

Conspiracy theorists in Austria claim that if there were accomplices, then Natascha's life is in danger. Rational psychologists, however, see things differently, arguing that the biggest threat to her comes from within.

Dr James Thompson, a clinical psychologist at University College London and an expert in posttraumatic stress in kidnap victims, believes that Natascha is at a pivotal moment in her recovery.

'I think in some senses she is trying to build a dungeon for herself to protect her from the outside world,' he says.

'When Terry Waite was released from captivity in Beirut, he had a tiny, windowless room at Kings College that he used to retreat to and colleagues would joke that he was putting himself back in his cell. In a way, they were right.'

But is spending so much time in the house where she was held prisoner healthy?

'It depends,' continues Dr Thompson. 'At the right time, I often take patients to the scene of an incident that might have disturbed them, just to reassure them that the incident is in the past and can no longer hurt them. If this is what Natascha is doing, then it could be beneficial.

'However, a part of the healing process is to put the thing behind you and move on. It is crucial to see what she does next. If she keeps the house and stays in it without moving on, then I'm afraid that wouldn't be a good sign.'

Dr Thompson says that, so far, Natascha's apparently odd behaviour shouldn't cause alarm and that she could still have a relatively normal and happy future.

Dr James McCracken, Director of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at the University of California, Los Angeles, is not so upbeat.

'It is difficult to comprehend the horror of kidnapping, sexual and physical abuse, deprivation and isolation that someone like Natascha experienced,' he says.

'It is equally impossible to appreciate what re-entry into the world years later - but emotionally still as a child - must be like.

'In general, signs of healthy adjustment would include putting the traumatic experience further and further out of daily life. What little I know about Natascha Kampusch today makes me very worried about the prospects for a happy future.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1240887/Is-Natascha-Kampusch-missing-monster-kept-prisoner-cellar.html#ixzz0cKbebINH

[sheepy]

Just wondered what your thoughts are on this breaking story - possibly mind control may have played a role here esp given her parentage/background?

The niece of a Britain's junior defence minister told a court Monday she drunkenly plunged a knife into the naked body of a Frenchman she picked up in a bar, but had no idea why she did it.

Jessica Davies told her murder trial that she had blacked out and had no recollection of the killing except "the sensation of the knife going in."

"I am horrified by what I have done," said the 30-year-old niece of Quentin Davies.




http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20100111/tuk-minister-s-niece-in-french-sex-murde-a7ad41d.html

[hermajesty]

Illuminati slave's programming breaks down & she talks about Illuminati ritual human sacrifice

¡Comieron Humanos! They Ate Humans!
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[hermajesty]

Just wondered what your thoughts are on this breaking story - possibly mind control may have played a role here esp given her parentage/background?


It definitely sounds like MK or some other mind control to me. People who have had programmed alters talk about how they do things that they can't remember & have no idea why they did them.

[noctua]

Just wondered what your thoughts are on this breaking story - possibly mind control may have played a role here esp given her parentage/background?



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20100111/tuk-minister-s-niece-in-french-sex-murde-a7ad41d.html


I noticed that the attack took place on 11 November (11-11). I have seen so many threads on this forum alluding to that number / date.

The psychologist defined her as having a "borderline" personality....I guess that is one way of putting it...

[wakeuptime]

From everything I've read about the Natasha Kampusch case (a lot) it seems her mother probably sold her to Prikopil and she was a child sex slave. That's why she's not close to her family :rolleyes:

As for buying the house, perhaps it is the only place she's ever known plus she's no doubt suffering post traumatic syndrome/child sex slave syndrome....who knows the extent of what that poor girl went through.

I wish her well but as with all mind controlled or sex slave kids, she's got a tough road ahead. And in her case everybody knows her story.

[pound]

This one is rather sad and weird. She was a Playboy model to.

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2010/01/06/image6063743.jpg

The burning body of the 26-year-old Sladewski was found in a dumpster in North Miami Sunday night, Jan. 3. She and Klym had been staying at a hotel in Miami Beach. Klym reported her missing later that day, saying they got separated while at a nightclub.


http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/08/crimesider/entry6072936.shtml

[noctua]

From everything I've read about the Natasha Kampusch case (a lot) it seems her mother probably sold her to Prikopil and she was a child sex slave. That's why she's not close to her family :rolleyes:



I had the same feeling, but thought it may have been her father who sold her on and not the mother. Either way, you are right about it being hard enough without everyone knowing your story.

[wakeuptime]

I had the same feeling, but thought it may have been her father who sold her on and not the mother. Either way, you are right about it being hard enough without everyone knowing your story.

It was a judge who accused the mother. Apparently she and Prikopil used to hang out together in a bar. I think Natasha still had affection for her father but once he started trying to get money out of her and complaining to the media she got fed up. Don't blame her at all.

Just as with the Madeleine case, this one stinks of corruption and fraud. The police interviewed Prikopil but...let him go even tho he was driving the white van Natasha was kidnapped in (and there was a witness, a friend with Natasha at the time).

And why didn't the neighbors say "Hey this guy just built a special cellar under his house". Maybe we should look into him, huh?

The whole story has holes the size of craters. While she wasn't sacrificed as Madeleine no doubt was, Natasha was victim of some Austrian child porno ring.

She's worth looking at actually because she's got to be a multiple (DID). No other way she'd be so collected after what she went through. People who dealt with her said she's nasty and demeaning. Horrid case. :(

A non celebrity Stepford wife. She spent her capitivity learning to knit.

[noctua]

It was a judge who accused the mother. Apparently she and Prikopil used to hang out together in a bar. I think Natasha still had affection for her father but once he started trying to get money out of her and complaining to the media she got fed up. Don't blame her at all.

Just as with the Madeleine case, this one stinks of corruption and fraud. The police interviewed Prikopil but...let him go even tho he was driving the white van Natasha was kidnapped in (and there was a witness, a friend with Natasha at the time).

And why didn't the neighbors say "Hey this guy just built a special cellar under his house". Maybe we should look into him, huh?

The whole story has holes the size of craters. While she wasn't sacrificed as Madeleine no doubt was, Natasha was victim of some Austrian child porno ring.

She's worth looking at actually because she's got to be a multiple (DID). No other way she'd be so collected after what she went through. People who dealt with her said she's nasty and demeaning. Horrid case. :(

A non celebrity Stepford wife. She spent her capitivity learning to knit.

Wow !!! Once again, a corrupt case. I never knew those details. It's a sick world sometimes.

[emerald]

"Has Tiger Woods checked into sex rehab?

In the ever-changing story about Tiger Woods, word has resurfaced that he may have entered an upscale clinic in Arizona for sex rehab, according to sources contacted by People.

The sources say that Woods entered The Meadows, a clinic in Wickenburg, Ariz., sometime around the holidays – a rumor that first made the rounds last month. The clinic specializes in substance abuse, as well as compulsive disorders such as gambling or sex addiction.

A sex-therapy expert who claims to be familiar with the situation says Woods, 34, showed up in Wickenburg around New Year’s and would likely plan to stay for 4 to 5 weeks of treatment. “He should be out by Valentine’s Day or thereabouts,” says the source.

The golf champ’s whereabouts have been the subject of intense speculation since he crashed his car after a Thanksgiving fight with his wife Elin Nordegren. Reports have placed him on Long Island, in the Bahamas, in Africa, on the Oregon coast – and now again in Wickenburg, a town of only 6,400 people and some 60 miles northwest of Phoenix. There was talk around town that he flew in by helicopter shortly before Christmas, though a well-placed source placed him in California with Elin and his mother for Christmas.

On the heels of his alleged arrival, a local pizza shop posted a sign reading, “Hey, Tiger, we deliver,” and a local TV station sent a crew. Yet for all the commotion, Woods has not actually been seen."

[noctua]

^
We should expect the new and improved Tiger 2.0 to appear sometime mid-February then :rolleyes:

[emerald]

It's likely... How about a whiter Figer, a la FAMMY FOSA style? How would they explain this if so?:D

[engelsblume]

Does this pointing up by Christina Applegate have a meaning? I know the as above so below thing but she'd need to be pointing down as well, right? So does this mean something else?

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[emerald]

New "cats" crop

RIHANNA for W Feb. 2010

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And a "casual" KATY PERRY

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KYLIE for MAX also Feb. 2010

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[antiem]

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That pic looks like she's wanking, an invisible dick! :eek: :D

[agruvchic]

"Has Tiger Woods checked into sex rehab?

In the ever-changing story about Tiger Woods, word has resurfaced that he may have entered an upscale clinic in Arizona for sex rehab, according to sources contacted by People.

The sources say that Woods entered The Meadows, a clinic in Wickenburg, Ariz., sometime around the holidays – a rumor that first made the rounds last month. The clinic specializes in substance abuse, as well as compulsive disorders such as gambling or sex addiction.

A sex-therapy expert who claims to be familiar with the situation says Woods, 34, showed up in Wickenburg around New Year’s and would likely plan to stay for 4 to 5 weeks of treatment. “He should be out by Valentine’s Day or thereabouts,” says the source.

The golf champ’s whereabouts have been the subject of intense speculation since he crashed his car after a Thanksgiving fight with his wife Elin Nordegren. Reports have placed him on Long Island, in the Bahamas, in Africa, on the Oregon coast – and now again in Wickenburg, a town of only 6,400 people and some 60 miles northwest of Phoenix. There was talk around town that he flew in by helicopter shortly before Christmas, though a well-placed source placed him in California with Elin and his mother for Christmas.

On the heels of his alleged arrival, a local pizza shop posted a sign reading, “Hey, Tiger, we deliver,” and a local TV station sent a crew. Yet for all the commotion, Woods has not actually been seen."

This is interesting, the alleged reemergence of Tiger around Valentine's Day. This is the day that the heavy-handed, star-studded (predicted flop) of a movie called, Valentine's Day will come out.

[emerald]

True, VALENTINE'S DAY will be released in the U.S. on 12.02.

[noctua]

Does this pointing up by Christina Applegate have a meaning? I know the as above so below thing but she'd need to be pointing down as well, right? So does this mean something else?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/LMoondancer/apple.jpg

Not in this case. If you look closely, she has a thread tied around her finger (old-fashioned way of remembering something) so it is probably promo for her sit-com "Samantha Who?" in which she plays an amnesiac.

[emerald]

"Several of Mackenzie’s closest family members — including her stepmother, Michelle Phillips, and her half sister Bijou — have cut off all ties with her. Michelle has even accused Mackenzie of having a history of mental illness, a claim which both Mackenzie and Michelle’s daughter (and Mackenzie’s half sister) Chynna have denied. “This is what happens when incest survivors speak the truth,” Mackenzie shares. “The victim is punished.” Poor woman...


And another one is gone:

http://globalgrind.com/channel/culture/content/1297026/Bass-Player-For-Lauryn-Hill-Found-Dead/

[emerald]

Sick fucks category strikes again:

Model’s Sexual Photoshoot With A Dog

This photoshoot is to promote Canadian boutique Ssense, I don’t really know why the people behind this thought having almost bestiality sex is a good way to promote clothes. If you’re wondering how they got the dog to lick the model like this, the trick was they put peanut butter all over her.

Leda and Pierre St. Jacques, the photographers of this shoot explained why instead of using just the model and a plain backdrop (as was originally intended) they went with this dog.

They said “we had this idea to play with dogs, It’s more interesting. It’s big.” When asked why they didn’t use their own poodles they said “She’s so cute. She’s so sophisticated. And it’s a female. It’s very elegant. It’s not this very sexual dog,”

Leda then went on to say “Me personally, I don’t have a fantasy with an animal,But I’m very open. If some people, they prefer dogs, I don’t have a problem with it. “I’m 38 years old and I have a lot of friends, women, and they are not able to find a man. It’s really difficult. They are really difficult, and they have a very specific idea of what a man is supposed to be. It was funny to say, ‘It’s too difficult to find a man, so you can just find a dog. It’s so complicated sometimes that – you can do a joke: if you can have pleasure with yourself or have a dog it’s better than a man.”

I’m kind of speechless, I’ve seen some wacky porn and stuff but this real photoshoot to promote clothes just has me feeling sick.

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[siphon880di]

I doubt the dog even knows what's it into. But some people can see this is still animal cruelty. This is also encouraging a sexual perversion.

Sick fucks category strikes again:

Model’s Sexual Photoshoot With A Dog

This photoshoot is to promote Canadian boutique Ssense, I don’t really know why the people behind this thought having almost bestiality sex is a good way to promote clothes. If you’re wondering how they got the dog to lick the model like this, the trick was they put peanut butter all over her.

Leda and Pierre St. Jacques, the photographers of this shoot explained why instead of using just the model and a plain backdrop (as was originally intended) they went with this dog.

They said “we had this idea to play with dogs, It’s more interesting. It’s big.” When asked why they didn’t use their own poodles they said “She’s so cute. She’s so sophisticated. And it’s a female. It’s very elegant. It’s not this very sexual dog,”

Leda then went on to say “Me personally, I don’t have a fantasy with an animal,But I’m very open. If some people, they prefer dogs, I don’t have a problem with it. “I’m 38 years old and I have a lot of friends, women, and they are not able to find a man. It’s really difficult. They are really difficult, and they have a very specific idea of what a man is supposed to be. It was funny to say, ‘It’s too difficult to find a man, so you can just find a dog. It’s so complicated sometimes that – you can do a joke: if you can have pleasure with yourself or have a dog it’s better than a man.”

I’m kind of speechless, I’ve seen some wacky porn and stuff but this real photoshoot to promote clothes just has me feeling sick.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3213/modesexualphotoshootwity.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwity.jpg/)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5429/modesexualphotoshootwite.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwite.jpg/)

[emerald]

I doubt the dog even knows what's it into. But some people can see this is still animal cruelty. This is also encouraging a sexual perversion.

Poor animals they have absolutely no fault. Never ever. Its the "wonderful" and "great" human mind who's behind all the shit.

[engelsblume]

Sick fucks category strikes again:

Model’s Sexual Photoshoot With A Dog

This photoshoot is to promote Canadian boutique Ssense, I don’t really know why the people behind this thought having almost bestiality sex is a good way to promote clothes. If you’re wondering how they got the dog to lick the model like this, the trick was they put peanut butter all over her.

Leda and Pierre St. Jacques, the photographers of this shoot explained why instead of using just the model and a plain backdrop (as was originally intended) they went with this dog.

They said “we had this idea to play with dogs, It’s more interesting. It’s big.” When asked why they didn’t use their own poodles they said “She’s so cute. She’s so sophisticated. And it’s a female. It’s very elegant. It’s not this very sexual dog,”

Leda then went on to say “Me personally, I don’t have a fantasy with an animal,But I’m very open. If some people, they prefer dogs, I don’t have a problem with it. “I’m 38 years old and I have a lot of friends, women, and they are not able to find a man. It’s really difficult. They are really difficult, and they have a very specific idea of what a man is supposed to be. It was funny to say, ‘It’s too difficult to find a man, so you can just find a dog. It’s so complicated sometimes that – you can do a joke: if you can have pleasure with yourself or have a dog it’s better than a man.”

I’m kind of speechless, I’ve seen some wacky porn and stuff but this real photoshoot to promote clothes just has me feeling sick.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/966/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwit.jpg/)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5429/modesexualphotoshootwite.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/modesexualphotoshootwite.jpg/)


:eek: Wow :eek: That's a whole new level of sickness! Don't know whether to laugh or cry. *goes speechles*

[lostworld]

Poor animals they have absolutely no fault. Never ever. Its the "wonderful" and "great" human mind who's behind all the shit.

I agree.

Em, do you have the link to where this photoshoot + quotes are from? Thanks.

[nunoyabiznez]

MY GOD that is Nasty!! What the hell is wrong with people? I also want to know where this is from...:eek:

[armoured_amazon]

Turns my stomach. No wonder models are fucked in the head, the sort of stuff they are put through to 'get the perfect shot'.

:mad:

[noctua]

I agree.

Em, do you have the link to where this photoshoot + quotes are from? Thanks.

:eek: The dog is also so very obviously NOT female....

[jo_6]

Kerli is a 21 year old pop/alternative singer. She was born in Estonia . She made her debut album "Love Is Dead" on Island Def Jam. Discovered by L.A. Reid ( who discovered Pink) Jay Z is also on the label.

From her Myspace page:
'I almost never feel like I belong. I am very uncomfortable having a human experience.'
'I have at least 5 different personalities.'

As a mannequin:
http://mbmfiles.com/Nov2009/091114-WNTeNllvp7UU.jpghttp://http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rOZGJzHP5O4-4M:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oi4hRpoeQtY/SGQ7sWzxagI/AAAAAAAAAC8/rnxLrS5YCqk/s400/kerli.jpg

Sewed up doll looking into mirror (split personality) . On a swing (disassociative/ hypnotic) Black/white duality. Butterflys in background.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/86/mybanner48328b0e9646frp6.jpghttp://http://c2.api.ning.com/files/TtwBo078M6hsSsAGEfK7Gcp3hDEdwLyl-qQyznI9Rq2IjGv7dS0RZe4mFxPDAngTMrC-RBCtOSHXJh4eBzPqphKWR45b16N2/Doppelganger__Kerli__by_BlueBlack.jpghttp://img2.visualizeus.com/thumbs/09/11/01/doll,ilustrations,girl,kawaii,3d,digital_natalie,s hau-1e279b6d6b1a4b611d7646b53f1a2ff4_h.jpg

Artwork done by Lithuanian artist Natalie Shau. VERY OCCULT and MK work. Please check it out. Loads of Alice in wonderland, white rabbits, skulls, butterflys. REALLY wierd stuff..... http://www.nonsolokawaii.com/atmofere-oniriche-natalie-shau/

[armoured_amazon]

Kerli is a 21 year old pop/alternative singer. She was born in Estonia . She made her debut album "Love Is Dead" on Island Def Jam. Discovered by L.A. Reid ( who discovered Pink) Jay Z is also on the label.

From her Myspace page:
'I almost never feel like I belong. I am very uncomfortable having a human experience.'
'I have at least 5 different personalities.'

As a mannequin:
http://mbmfiles.com/Nov2009/091114-WNTeNllvp7UU.jpghttp://http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rOZGJzHP5O4-4M:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oi4hRpoeQtY/SGQ7sWzxagI/AAAAAAAAAC8/rnxLrS5YCqk/s400/kerli.jpg

Sewed up doll looking into mirror (split personality) . On a swing (disassociative/ hypnotic) Black/white duality. Butterflys in background.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/86/mybanner48328b0e9646frp6.jpghttp://http://c2.api.ning.com/files/TtwBo078M6hsSsAGEfK7Gcp3hDEdwLyl-qQyznI9Rq2IjGv7dS0RZe4mFxPDAngTMrC-RBCtOSHXJh4eBzPqphKWR45b16N2/Doppelganger__Kerli__by_BlueBlack.jpghttp://img2.visualizeus.com/thumbs/09/11/01/doll,ilustrations,girl,kawaii,3d,digital_natalie,s hau-1e279b6d6b1a4b611d7646b53f1a2ff4_h.jpg

Artwork done by Lithuanian artist Natalie Shau. VERY OCCULT and MK work. Please check it out. Loads of Alice in wonderland, white rabbits, skulls, butterflys. REALLY wierd stuff..... http://www.nonsolokawaii.com/atmofere-oniriche-natalie-shau/

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1171521&highlight=kerli+kov#post1171521

There's a link to a good post about her on Pseudo Occult Media earlier in the thread. I forget how I came across Kerli Kov; some of her videos are VERY interesting.

[jo_6]

Ga-ga esque and creepy masks:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/images/2008/10/20/kerli_performs_at_spikes_tv_scream_.jpg
http://http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/kindofadraag/default/msg-122462398745.jpg
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/newageamazon/default/2008-scream-awards--large-msg-122471343989.jpg
[

[tanimara]

Kerli sings together with german band Tokio Hotel the song "Strang" for the "Alice in Wonderland" soundtrack.the song was written by Andreas Carlsson and Desmond Child.

[jo_6]

http://www.kerlimusic.com/images/local/300/cbf0ced0-f98f-45fe-a459-625f602ef126.jpg


Thanks for link A A ! Will check out pseudooccult.
http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/01/marionette-kerli.html

[zhenshanren]

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/heidi-montag-details-plastic-surgery-addiction/343?nc

[deca]

look these MK`s make movies,music entertain and make the gossip columns in the news papers and make money and keep people distracted .......other mks do other stuff ok

bastards at the top pull strings ....shit happens......an they know how to keep control and people in line.........what are you non people caught in this trap ever going do.....yeah give an opinion from a headline.....

blame the game not the player

a lot pawns in this game

[lostworld]

Targeted Individuals
- One system to rule them all


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6346/targetr.jpg


Ridiculed, harassed, bullied, gang stalked, surveilled, attacked with directed energy weapons...
Are negative things happening to you more than what can be considered as "normal"? Do you feel that people are working against you, that you are being set up in various situations in life?
Systematic patterns of behaviour and situations that happen to you to that extent that they can't be considered "accidents" or "bad luck" anymore...
They want to call you paranoid but could you in fact be a targeted individual?
Or is it happening to someone you know?

The purpose is to drain you from energy, to get you into a depressive state so you can't function the way you're supposed to (and DO what you're supposed to; for instance expose the truth, help animals, do volunteer work etc).
And to make you look non-credible and "crazy" to others (and since they set you up to look "crazy", it's also easier to convince people to surveil you - they just think that they're doing a good deed...) Citizen informants, co-workers, friends and family members can be recruited to surveil and control you. Some are being blackmailed into doing it.

Targeting and government mind control go hand in hand. You don't have to be a mind control victim to be targeted though.
Targeting in many cases seem to happen to people who fight and question the system, who won't be controlled, who are "different" - in other words, people like us.
That's why it's important that you know about this term and then you can make up your own mind about it.


Other countries have used massive citizen informant networks to destroy perceived opposition to dictatorial rule as well. In Czechoslovakia they served the Czechoslovak State Security (StB), and in Poland they worked for the Ministry of Public Security (MBP). The citizen informants of the State Protection Authority (AVH) ensured the survival of the Hungarian dictatorship. Targets were harassed, threatened, confined to mental institutions, tortured, blackmailed, and framed. Even their friends and family were co-opted to persecute them.

Probably the best recent example of citizens Gang Stalking people on behalf of the state is East Germany. In Germany the plain-clothed citizen informants were called IMs (inofizielle mitarbeiter), or "unofficial collaborators." Unofficial means that they unofficially worked for the Ministry of State Security (MfS), also called the Stasi. For her book, Stasiland, Funder interviewed former IMs, targets, Stasi Psychologists, and professors who trained IM recruiters in Spezialdisziplin (the art of recruiting informants). "The IMs," wrote Funder, "were 'inofizielle mitarbeiter' or unofficial collaborators [plain-clothed citizen informants]."

Funder continued, "In the GDR, there was one Stasi officer or informant for every sixty-three people. If part-time informers are included, some estimates have the ratio as high as one informer for every 6.5 citizens." In his book, Stasi: The East German Secret Police, John O. Koehler agreed that when you add in the estimated part-time IMs, "the result is nothing short of monstrous: one informer per 6.5 citizens."
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/informants.asp


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5272/spiesy.jpg


Some good links:

The hidden evil
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/

Mark Rich describes his life as a TI, the history behind this phenomenon, info about tactics, informants etc.
He's also written a very good e-book that can be purchased or read online:
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/overview.asp


Are you targeted?
http://areyoutargeted.com/whats-happening/


Targeted Individuals
http://www.targetedindividuals.com/


http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6501/k0642079.jpg

[deca]

Targeted Individuals
- One system to rule them all


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6346/targetr.jpg


Ridiculed, harassed, bullied, gang stalked, surveilled, attacked with directed energy weapons...
Are negative things happening to you more than what can be considered as "normal"? Do you feel that people are working against you, that you are being set up in various situations in life?
Systematic patterns of behaviour and situations that happen to you to that extent that they can't be considered "accidents" or "bad luck" anymore...
They want to call you paranoid but could you in fact be a targeted individual?
Or is it happening to someone you know?

The purpose is to drain you from energy, to get you into a depressive state so you can't function the way you're supposed to (and DO what you're supposed to; for instance expose the truth, help animals, do volunteer work etc).
And to make you look non-credible and "crazy" to others (and since they set you up to look "crazy", it's also easier to convince people to surveil you - they just think that they're doing a good deed...) Citizen informants, co-workers, friends and family members can be recruited to surveil and control you. Some are being blackmailed into doing it.

Targeting and government mind control go hand in hand. You don't have to be a mind control victim to be targeted though.
Targeting in many cases seem to happen to people who fight and question the system, who won't be controlled, who are "different" - in other words, people like us.
That's why it's important that you know about this term and then you can make up your own mind about it.


Other countries have used massive citizen informant networks to destroy perceived opposition to dictatorial rule as well. In Czechoslovakia they served the Czechoslovak State Security (StB), and in Poland they worked for the Ministry of Public Security (MBP). The citizen informants of the State Protection Authority (AVH) ensured the survival of the Hungarian dictatorship. Targets were harassed, threatened, confined to mental institutions, tortured, blackmailed, and framed. Even their friends and family were co-opted to persecute them.

Probably the best recent example of citizens Gang Stalking people on behalf of the state is East Germany. In Germany the plain-clothed citizen informants were called IMs (inofizielle mitarbeiter), or "unofficial collaborators." Unofficial means that they unofficially worked for the Ministry of State Security (MfS), also called the Stasi. For her book, Stasiland, Funder interviewed former IMs, targets, Stasi Psychologists, and professors who trained IM recruiters in Spezialdisziplin (the art of recruiting informants). "The IMs," wrote Funder, "were 'inofizielle mitarbeiter' or unofficial collaborators [plain-clothed citizen informants]."

Funder continued, "In the GDR, there was one Stasi officer or informant for every sixty-three people. If part-time informers are included, some estimates have the ratio as high as one informer for every 6.5 citizens." In his book, Stasi: The East German Secret Police, John O. Koehler agreed that when you add in the estimated part-time IMs, "the result is nothing short of monstrous: one informer per 6.5 citizens."
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/informants.asp


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5272/spiesy.jpg


Some good links:

The hidden evil
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/

Mark Rich describes his life as a TI, the history behind this phenomenon, info about tactics, informants etc.
He's also written a very good e-book that can be purchased or read online:
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/overview.asp


Are you targeted?
http://areyoutargeted.com/whats-happening/


Targeted Individuals
http://www.targetedindividuals.com/


http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6501/k0642079.jpg


I have a lot off problems with the hidden evil, yes it does describe very well what a lot of Ti`s belief and suffer but it does not go deeply into the mind weapons today which can remotely alter your mental state,emotions,senses and therefore your perception of whats happening around you....it rather try`s to explain a victims suffering done by man intensive methods rather than mind control technology

Dr persinger let out the bag first you send out fear/anxious altering waves then later broadcast "the reason you feel like this is because of this group"

hence Ti`s that vist these sites can end up believing half the world in on there targeting and take an active part.......Ti`s research the technology....these sites will make you even more paranoid and believe your on family and loved ones are preps,snitches etc.. and their agents on every corner

EMF by it self can cause the feeling of being watched.....check out ghost sites
i,e you feel different,like you being spied on, you start to wounder were its coming from ...check for hidden camera`s,looking out the window ....searching the net....if you come to these sits ..then they seem to give you an answer for what you are experiencing ....

[armoured_amazon]

Targeted Individuals
- One system to rule them all


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6346/targetr.jpg


Ridiculed, harassed, bullied, gang stalked, surveilled, attacked with directed energy weapons...
Are negative things happening to you more than what can be considered as "normal"? Do you feel that people are working against you, that you are being set up in various situations in life?
Systematic patterns of behaviour and situations that happen to you to that extent that they can't be considered "accidents" or "bad luck" anymore...
They want to call you paranoid but could you in fact be a targeted individual?
Or is it happening to someone you know?

The purpose is to drain you from energy, to get you into a depressive state so you can't function the way you're supposed to (and DO what you're supposed to; for instance expose the truth, help animals, do volunteer work etc).
And to make you look non-credible and "crazy" to others (and since they set you up to look "crazy", it's also easier to convince people to surveil you - they just think that they're doing a good deed...) Citizen informants, co-workers, friends and family members can be recruited to surveil and control you. Some are being blackmailed into doing it.

Targeting and government mind control go hand in hand. You don't have to be a mind control victim to be targeted though.
Targeting in many cases seem to happen to people who fight and question the system, who won't be controlled, who are "different" - in other words, people like us.
That's why it's important that you know about this term and then you can make up your own mind about it.


Other countries have used massive citizen informant networks to destroy perceived opposition to dictatorial rule as well. In Czechoslovakia they served the Czechoslovak State Security (StB), and in Poland they worked for the Ministry of Public Security (MBP). The citizen informants of the State Protection Authority (AVH) ensured the survival of the Hungarian dictatorship. Targets were harassed, threatened, confined to mental institutions, tortured, blackmailed, and framed. Even their friends and family were co-opted to persecute them.

Probably the best recent example of citizens Gang Stalking people on behalf of the state is East Germany. In Germany the plain-clothed citizen informants were called IMs (inofizielle mitarbeiter), or "unofficial collaborators." Unofficial means that they unofficially worked for the Ministry of State Security (MfS), also called the Stasi. For her book, Stasiland, Funder interviewed former IMs, targets, Stasi Psychologists, and professors who trained IM recruiters in Spezialdisziplin (the art of recruiting informants). "The IMs," wrote Funder, "were 'inofizielle mitarbeiter' or unofficial collaborators [plain-clothed citizen informants]."

Funder continued, "In the GDR, there was one Stasi officer or informant for every sixty-three people. If part-time informers are included, some estimates have the ratio as high as one informer for every 6.5 citizens." In his book, Stasi: The East German Secret Police, John O. Koehler agreed that when you add in the estimated part-time IMs, "the result is nothing short of monstrous: one informer per 6.5 citizens."
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/informants.asp


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5272/spiesy.jpg


Some good links:

The hidden evil
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/

Mark Rich describes his life as a TI, the history behind this phenomenon, info about tactics, informants etc.
He's also written a very good e-book that can be purchased or read online:
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/overview.asp


Are you targeted?
http://areyoutargeted.com/whats-happening/


Targeted Individuals
http://www.targetedindividuals.com/


http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6501/k0642079.jpg

^ That's me. :mad: And industry people always 'know' me. Why me? I'm just going about, doing my thing...

[lostworld]

I have a lot off problems with the hidden evil, yes it does describe very well what a lot of Ti`s belief and suffer but it does not go deeply into the mind weapons today which can remotely alter your mental state,emotions,senses and therefore your perception of whats happening around you....it rather try`s to explain a victims suffering done by man intensive methods rather than mind control technology

It can't cover everything. There are other sources for that and on these sites there are also links to other sites, info about books on the topic etc.

I think Mark covers a lot in his book though.

Dr persinger let out the bag first you send out fear/anxious altering waves then later broadcast "the reason you fell like this is because of this group"

hence Ti`s that vist these sites can end up believing half the world in on there targeting and take an active part.......Ti`s research the technology....these sites will make you even more paranoid and believe your on family and loved ones are preps,snitches etc.. and their agents on every corner

EMF by it self can cause the feeling of being watched.....check out ghost sites
i,e you feel different,like you being spied on, you start to wounder were its coming from ...check for hidden camera`s,looking out the window ....searching the net....if you come to these sits ..then they seem to give you an answer for what you are experiencing ....

I think it's impossible to know the range of this phenomenon.
Knowing how "they" operate though; I think it's very possible that they can recruit family members and people to do this to you and that a lot of people are being harassed...

And they want you to think that you're paranoid, and for others to believe that too. But what do you call a paranoid person who's right? :rolleyes:

[lostworld]

^ That's me. :mad: And industry people always 'know' me. Why me? I'm just going about, doing my thing...

I haven't found this on any website but I think that people are being watched from very early on in life.
They must know who won't conform already from school, those of us who already then questioned authorities etc.
I think they watch us, see if we're gonna change when we get a bit older and if we don't, then we are at a very high risk of being targeted. :(

[armoured_amazon]

I haven't found this on any website but I think that people are being watched from very early on in life.
They must know who won't conform already from school, those of us who already then questioned authorities etc.
I think they watch us, see if we're gonna change when we get a bit older and if we don't, then we are at a very high risk of being targeted. :(

Definitely. I know I fit the criteria from a young age: exceptional IQ, put into 'gifted' programs, musical ability, sensitivity to non-physical world, multi-lingual, toxic family unit etc. I find it hard to fit in with 'normal' people, yet celebrities and high-ups in the music industry always gravitate towards me. But because I'm vocal on my resistance to their MO, I would always get so far in my career and no further. When I was younger, I took it personally, now I'm older and I realise WHY, it should make me feel better...but it doesn't, really. :mad: I take advantage of it for fun - I go to shows, private parties etc, I know I'll have a good night, but I leave at the end. When the MTV awards were on here, I ended up invited into a private dinner even the press and half the celebs couldn't get access to, through 5 levels of security, wtf? And I'm talking SECURITY. I went to see Alice Cooper recently, and his new guitarist swore blind we've met before. I'm not easily mistaken for other people - see my MySpace link, I'm 6ft2, for a start! All sounds fun, but it's a bit of a headfuck. Especially when people we've mentioned on this site as being MKed or controllers start following me on Twitter and MySpace etc, when fathers of top earning performers are champagning and propositioning - who am I? I don't do the groupie thing, I'm not the prettiest girl in the room. In the 'real' world, I provoke intense negative reactions. It's a definite confusion to my identity equilibrium. But yeah, I definitely find social integration difficult.

Something I forgot about, my father is high up in a tribal cult, I don't know much about it, only found out about it recently..

[armoured_amazon]

So I just logged into Twitter and Tila Tequila's tweeting she's pregnant now...

A few of her recent tweets

http://twitter.com/officialTila
"yes i am pregnant. But I will never take pics of the baby or sell baby photos for money for magazine covers. Once I have it..I'm gone."

"I never want my baby to EVER go though what I had to go through with the media. Last thing would do is exploit my own baby."

"if I disappear 4 a while then U all know why....I do not want paps 2 take pics of my belly, my baby, or none of that. I am leaving hollywood"

"I will NEVER exploit an innocent baby. ESPECIALLY 2 the cruel world of the media & fame. I will raise my baby in a quiet town. away frm here"

"So like I said, I may disappear for a while, but now you all know why and I am happy u can respect that. No baby deserves 2 be exploited."

---

Yeah, like she'll leave Hollywood, lol. Day after her gf died, she was out front, posing on the stoop for the media...

[lostworld]

Almost all members of my immediate family are braintapped (receiving wireless instructions) from a federal agency. The entire scenario of them repeatedly commenting on my thought patterns & actions appears to be based on a combination of technologies such as Augmented Cognition (AugCog) & Microwave Hearing (V2K), which are basically mind-reading & the wireless transmission of spoken words. This is accomplished by coaching my family to comment or perform acts based on my thoughts & actions. I'm often mocked & insulted during these exchanges, by multiple family members working in unison, presumably at the direction of federal operators.

Although any mention of brain tapping may seem like impossibility, understand that Voice-to-Skull technology (the wireless & receiverless transmission of sound into a person's cranium) has been a scientific fact since the mid 70s. More evidence for brain tapping, which allows the transmission of sound to a specific individual, based on their brain pattern (like a fingerprint), will be presented in future reports. This technology allows multiple informants in the same room to receive different simultaneous instructions remotely, without each being aware of another's message. It is definitely being used by the agency when coordinating my family, & I'm certain it is being used in harassment campaigns worldwide.

http://www.thehiddenevil.com/waragainstme.asp

[deca]

It can't cover everything. There are other sources for that and on these sites there are also links to other sites, info about books on the topic etc.

I think Mark covers a lot in his book though.



I think it's impossible to know the range of this phenomenon.
Knowing how "they" operate though; I think it's very possible that they can recruit family members and people to do this to you and that a lot of people are being harassed...

And they want you to think that you're paranoid, and for others to believe that too. But what do you call a paranoid person who's right? :rolleyes:


what better why to prove to the people who love and care about you that you are crazy.....get the victim to accuse them .....

this tech misdirects the victim....the victim is the one targeted ....people especialy your friends ,family members wouldn`t join these groups...if they were approached it would prove you were a target in the first place!!!!!

most people don`t believe you are targeted when you tell them ("why you, whats special about you?)...they think your are mad...hence the negative and odd behavior towards you...sites like the above plus the mind altering tech...convinces they are preps.... you suspect them ,accuse....they think you are completely nuts , and call mental health in...the Ti believes they been set up by family members wrongly and it screws their relationships and support they get from them.

[lostworld]

Definitely. I know I fit the criteria from a young age: exceptional IQ, put into 'gifted' programs, musical ability, sensitivity to non-physical world, multi-lingual, toxic family unit etc. I find it hard to fit in with 'normal' people, yet celebrities and high-ups in the music industry always gravitate towards me. But because I'm vocal on my resistance to their MO, I would always get so far in my career and no further. When I was younger, I took it personally, now I'm older and I realise WHY, it should make me feel better...but it doesn't, really. :mad: I take advantage of it for fun - I go to shows, private parties etc, I know I'll have a good night, but I leave at the end. When the MTV awards were on here, I ended up invited into a private dinner even the press and half the celebs couldn't get access to, through 5 levels of security, wtf? And I'm talking SECURITY. I went to see Alice Cooper recently, and his new guitarist swore blind we've met before. I'm not easily mistaken for other people - see my MySpace link, I'm 6ft2, for a start! All sounds fun, but it's a bit of a headfuck. Especially when people we've mentioned on this site as being MKed or controllers start following me on Twitter and MySpace etc, when fathers of top earning performers are champagning and propositioning - who am I? I don't do the groupie thing, I'm not the prettiest girl in the room. In the 'real' world, I provoke intense negative reactions. It's a definite confusion to my identity equilibrium. But yeah, I definitely find social integration difficult.

Thanks for sharing that AA. :)
Very interesting...

I guess somehow they need/want your light energy at the same time as the goal is to break you/get you to conform (which seems to be impossible :D )
That attracts them I think...

See yourself as "the one that got away". And be lucky that you're not really a part of it.

[lostworld]

what better why to prove to the people who love and care about you that you are crazy.....get the victim to accuse them .....

this tech misdirects the victim....the victim is the one targeted ....people especialy your friends ,family members wouldn`t join these groups...if they were approached it would prove you were a target in the first place!!!!!

most people don`t believe you are targeted when yoy tell them ("why you, whats special about you?)...they think your are mad...hence the negative and odd behavior towards you...sites like the above plus the mind altering tech...convinces they are preps.... you suspect them ,accuse....they think you are completely nuts , and call mental health in...the Ti believes they been set up by family members wrongly and it screws their relationships and support they get from them.

So what are you saying Deca? That you don't think that family members and friends can't be recruited for this?

If they think that you're "crazy" and that they're doing it for the right thing (in order to help you etc) of course it's possible.

Again, the whole purpose is to make you look paranoid, non-credible and crazy.

I don't think family and friends visit these sites since they don't believe the victim. But it's good for people who suspect that they are TI's to have places where they can go for more info and to know that they are not alone...

[armoured_amazon]

Thanks for sharing that AA. :)
Very interesting...

I guess somehow they need/want your light energy at the same time as the goal is to break you/get you to conform (which seems to be impossible :D )
That attracts them I think...

See yourself as "the one that got away". And be lucky that you're not really a part of it.

Yeah, I do :) I feel I'm still under scrutiny, though, and wonder why. And I don't really have any life direction left, because I've always trained for music, and that field is out. There wasn't ever anything else I wanted to do. I'm trying to get into writing atm, so I can still be creative, but that's a difficult field...:o

[deca]

So what are you saying Deca? That you don't think that family members and friends can't be recruited for this?

If they think that you're "crazy" and that they're doing it for the right thing (in order to help you etc) of course it's possible.

Again, the whole purpose is to make you look paranoid, non-credible and crazy.

I don't think family and friends visit these sites since they don't believe the victim. But it's good for people who suspect that they are TI's to have places where they can go for more info and to know that they are not alone...

you don`t have to deal with Ti`s that a buggered up by these sites , end up not trusting anyone, and if you don`t believe them or try to explain the technology they end up accuse you of being a prep as well.
and they end up post endless how to spot a prep threads....worse thing you can do in a hyper vigilant state....and all the tactics they make you believe just makes you suspicious and paranoid in any type of social setting .....innocent body laugage that you would see in any setting becomes covert signaling ect...and proof of prep activity

these sites gets the victim focusing on the people around them, not whats happening to them internally

basic conditioning you see van pass, the tech remotely zaps you...from your perspective you believe that the white van is zapping you and the van contains equipment

could be that they knock you into a right brain way of thinking abstract association (remotely via technology while you walk about) probably only need to do for a fraction of a second , then flip you to left way of thinking to explain your sudden unexpected experience.....a narrated liner physical explanation ....prep most of placed that object there to make me see it and fuck with my mind.....

one Ti is convinced preps drive around with number plates that are designed to use NPL on them.....or mean something personal....yet they can`t sit down a play scramble anymore

[lostworld]

Yeah, I do :) I feel I'm still under scrutiny, though, and wonder why.

People like us always are I think.
Besides, I think they will always try to win you over & never give up.
See it as sort of a compliment... :rolleyes:


And I don't really have any life direction left, because I've always trained for music, and that field is out. There wasn't ever anything else I wanted to do. I'm trying to get into writing atm, so I can still be creative, but that's a difficult field...:o

But you're still working with music right? Even though they won't let you access the higher career levels... But maybe it's not enough to support yourself?

I think you should try writing if that's what you want. That's what I do ;)

[lostworld]

you don`t have to deal with Ti`s that a buggered up by these sites , end up not trusting anyone, and if you don`t believe them or try to explain the technology they end up accuse you of being a prep as well.
and they end up post endless how to spot a prep threads....worse thing you can do in a hyper vigilant state....and all the tactics they make you believe just makes you suspicious and paranoid in any type of social setting .....innocent body laugage that you would see in any setting becomes covert signaling ect...and proof of prep activity

these sites gets the victim focusing on the people around them, not whats happening to them internally

basic conditioning you see van pass, the tech remotely zaps you...from your perspective you believe that the white van is zapping you and the van contains equipment

If you are a TI or believe that you're a TI I think it's easy to end up not trusting anyone. Sad of course, but understandable.

Even if not always family members or friends are recruited there is always that suspicion I guess. Who can I trust? That's not strange...



these sites gets the victim focusing on the people around them, not whats happening to them internally

Good point, although I think the problem is a combination of the two.
You have to be aware of what might be going on around you to be able to know what's happening to you...

[armoured_amazon]

People like us always are I think.
Besides, I think they will always try to win you over & never give up.
See it as sort of a compliment... :rolleyes:

Hehe, that's probably the best way to look at it...it's just frustrating when I struggle financially and others who are willing to be complacent, or serve the agenda, don't have to wonder where they're going to find rent. I could work at going back to classical music, I guess...ideally, I want to leave music behind altogether, seems it's the yoke around my neck. When I've done local gigs, just singing other people's stuff in bars, I don't like that I'm promoting 'their' message, to minds not likely aware, and hence, unlikely to be resistant. I don't want to be part of the problem.

But you're still working with music right? Even though they won't let you access the higher career levels... But maybe it's not enough to support yourself?

Exactly. I'm just having a time-out, atm.

I think you should try writing if that's what you want. That's what I do ;)

I hope to. :)

[armoured_amazon]

Pamela uploaded these to her FB today, I just noticed them. Photos by David la Chapelle. I don't know how old they are.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/sweeswee2003/stuff/21952_256383597071_64704837071_3178.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/sweeswee2003/stuff/21952_256383607071_64704837071_3178.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/sweeswee2003/stuff/21952_256383647071_64704837071_3178.jpg

[deca]

hmmm interesting pics

[armoured_amazon]

hmmm dicing with death again.....they never give in .

when was these pic taken and whos website

Pamela Anderson put them on her Facebook page, but the photos are by David la Chappelle/Lachapelle. I don't know how recent they are; his site is at http://www.lachapellestudio.com/

Some interesting photos come up there, the robotic thing, lots of MJ, Lady GaGa, Tupac, Bowie, the Kanye/GaGa shot...seems he's the 'official' photographer for much of the photos we discuss here...

[lostworld]

Hehe, that's probably the best way to look at it...it's just frustrating when I struggle financially and others who are willing to be complacent, or serve the agenda, don't have to wonder where they're going to find rent.

I'm sorry... :( And I understand.

It seems that you have to be a sheeple or sell your soul to have a "successful" career. It's such a shame.

We all need money but not at any prize...

I could work at going back to classical music, I guess...ideally, I want to leave music behind altogether, seems it's the yoke around my neck. When I've done local gigs, just singing other people's stuff in bars, I don't like that I'm promoting 'their' message, to minds not likely aware, and hence, unlikely to be resistant. I don't want to be part of the problem.

Oh, you've been doing classical music before? Nice.

How about teaching music perhaps?

Yeah, I understand what you mean about not wanting to be a part of the problem...



I hope to. :)

Good luck! :)

[lostworld]

Pamela Anderson put them on her Facebook page, but the photos are by David la Chappelle/Lachapelle. I don't know how recent they are; his site is at http://www.lachapellestudio.com/


Thanks for those pics.

Yeah, Pamela and la Chapelle worked a lot together in the past.
Don't know if they still do.

[armoured_amazon]

Oh, you've been doing classical music before? Nice.

How about teaching music perhaps?

Yeah, I understand what you mean about not wanting to be a part of the problem...

Good luck! :)

Thanks :) Yeah, I was a prodigy-type violinist as a child, passed highest exam after three years of study...I still play, but just for fun, but I quit properly to go down the commercial music route - BIG MISTAKE. I still tutor classical instruments from time to time, but working in mainstream education, I lasted a year. Couldn't bear the stifling environment, and the regimented brainwashing of young children. I find it hard teaching, because students are still of the mind that anything is possible with hard work/talent/luck, and I know a different story. Don't want to stifle their dreams, though. But at the same time, I don't like leading people on, so...I start a new course in IT on Monday, so hopefully I'll have some new skills soon and can find a nice anti-social job at the end of it :D :D :D

[deca]

Pamela Anderson put them on her Facebook page, but the photos are by David la Chappelle/Lachapelle. I don't know how recent they are; his site is at http://www.lachapellestudio.com/

Some interesting photos come up there, the robotic thing, lots of MJ, Lady GaGa, Tupac, Bowie, the Kanye/GaGa shot...seems he's the 'official' photographer for much of the photos we discuss here...

I don`t see them on that web site:rolleyes:

[armoured_amazon]

I don`t see them on that web site:rolleyes:

I doubt all his stuff is on that website, he's shot a lot of campaigns.

[deca]

I doubt all his stuff is on that website, he's shot a lot of campaigns.

were did you get them from?

[deca]

Login to Photobucket
Logging into album sweeswee2003 : stuff

whos accounts this???

[armoured_amazon]

were did you get them from?

Pamela uploaded these to her FB today, I just noticed them. Photos by David la Chapelle. I don't know how old they are.

whos accounts this???

Mine.

[lostworld]

Thanks :) Yeah, I was a prodigy-type violinist as a child, passed highest exam after three years of study...I still play, but just for fun, but I quit properly to go down the commercial music route - BIG MISTAKE.

Live and learn, right... :rolleyes:

I really like classical music, it's so pure and good for the soul IMO.


I still tutor classical instruments from time to time, but working in mainstream education, I lasted a year. Couldn't bear the stifling environment, and the regimented brainwashing of young children. I find it hard teaching, because students are still of the mind that anything is possible with hard work/talent/luck, and I know a different story. Don't want to stifle their dreams, though. But at the same time, I don't like leading people on, so...

It's a tough balance I guess.
And I understand why you find it difficult, considering your experience and all that. Oh well, it was worth a try... ;)


I start a new course in IT on Monday, so hopefully I'll have some new skills soon and can find a nice anti-social job at the end of it :D :D :D

:D

And good luck with that too! :)

Ok, I'm off to bed now. Nice talking to you guys.
Take care & goodnight.

[armoured_amazon]

Goodnight :)

[deca]

Mine.

have you got a link to her face book account

[armoured_amazon]

have you got a link to her face book account

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/pamelaanderson?ref=ts

[deca]

rolling stones miss you - YouTube

don`t mind me i get paranoid sometimes

[armoured_amazon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNMxHGheWH0

don`t mind me i get paranoid sometimes

Me too, hence why I bucketed them rather than direct link ;)

[deca]

sorry armoured_amazon

a lot of people have wound me up recently, i tend to flip now and then
need some time out and some R & R if you know what i mean;)

[armoured_amazon]

sorry armoured_amazon

a lot of people have wound me up recently, i tend to flip now and then
need some time out and some R & R if you know what i mean;)

No problem, me too :o

[deca]

well i have something in the pipe line:p

but i trying not to let anything get in the way or go wrong so I on edge at the moment:(

last time i had or thought i did it went tits up and screwed me up for months

sort of screws the "stereotype" up (lone nut going demented talking paranoid gobble goop) :D

[armoured_amazon]

well i have something in the pipe line:p

but i trying not to let anything get in the way or go wrong so I on edge at the moment:(

last time i had or thought i did it went tits up and screwed me up for months

I hope all goes well :)

[deca]

well i rather be drinking and sh..... smoking.....than on here posting if you know what I mean....

[armoured_amazon]

.:D

[deca]

they get me both ways...................for short while:mad:
damned if i do damned if I don`t

anyway I going to leave this thread again

[armoured_amazon]

I'm just marking off the days till the next life; this one sucks. Sisyphus, constantly pushing that boulder up the hill, to no avail, pfff.

[lizzy]

hi AA - deca....;) that Stones vid :eek: totally dated me:rolleyes: good luck to both u guys.:)

[deca]

I'm just marking off the days till the next life; this one sucks. Sisyphus, constantly pushing that boulder up the hill, to no avail, pfff.

you keep pushing....try try and try again

its a good life don`t let them fool you out of it.....the system sucks < man created that bollocks, so it can be changed if the will was there....

make bricks out of the builder or get some others to give you a hand:D

all i have to do is flick a switch to off...its just getting to that switch

[emerald]

I agree.

Em, do you have the link to where this photoshoot + quotes are from? Thanks.

http://gone-hollywood.com/2010/01/models-sexual-photoshoot-with-a-dog/

[emerald]

How many Tigers?

"Tiger Woods In Sex Rehab In Mississippi

First, Tiger Woods was in a rehab facility in Arizona. Now, according to Radar Online, he's in a sex rehab facility in Mississippi.

The troubled golf great checked into Pine Grove Behavioral Health and Addiction Services, sources say.

The clinic, considered one of the top in the nation for sexual addiction, is directed by Dr. Patrick Carnes, who has pioneered treatment for sexually compulsive behavior.

The facility's web site says treatments typically last for six weeks and include individual and group therapy as well as an intervention called "shame reduction."

SHAME REDUCTION:eek:? Clearly mind control its what is this all about...

[emerald]

Idiot SIMON MONJACK on his relationship with BRITTANY:

"He said that “mystery is the nature of love and you never know when or where it will strike or how quickly it will be taken from you.”

Well it sounds like an occult/kabbalist ranting. And I bet it is.

[wakeuptime]

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/heidi-montag-details-plastic-surgery-addiction/343?nc

Good find, Zhenshanren. I wonder what's going on with Heidi? She's come out as a 9-11 truther. Maybe TPB decided she needs some reprogramming?


As for TIs, I just remembered this excellent German movie called "Lives of Others". Its all about the free-thinking people in East Germany being targeted by government spies. Pre-Berlin wall coming down that is.

If you haven't seen it you should all give it a try. Powerful movie about tyranny and oppression. Here's the trailer.

The Lives of Others trailer - YouTube

[balao]

One Eye Symbolism

http://www.musiqueradio.com/photos/news/2009/camelia-jordana-0.jpg

Camelia Jordana, wannabe French singer.

[cheryl]

Read yesterday that Brad Pitt is working with Aspreys to create a range of jewellry which will have serpent insignia or design. How's that for symbolism??

[emerald]

One Eye Symbolism

http://www.musiqueradio.com/photos/news/2009/camelia-jordana-0.jpg

Camelia Jordana, wannabe French singer.

Is it just me or she ressembles ALYSSA MILANO too much?

[emerald]

LISA LOPES/LEFT EYE... Gone much too soon, one month shy away from her 31st birthday... She had an army father too, but most biographies wont tell u that. Anyway its bizarre (to me) how, out of a group of 8 persons, she was the only who suffered the most severe injuries and died...

"Lopes was in Honduras doing missionary work, setting up education for Honduran children while volunteering at a children's center."

Right before her death, she was actually going through a body cleansing ritual and experiencing spiritual enlightenment. She was fascinated by numbers. Each number meant something."

From BREATHE

But it's not so sweet in this light of lime
Sometimes when you make it people get mad
Throw buckets grab, backs get stabbed
It was a hard struggle, meaning shit
Now it's hard just tryin' to juggle this, among shit
So people see the smile
All the while I have an inner child
That's cryin' denial (cry in denial)
Cryin' no smile, cryin' with style of beguile
In piles in aisles of niles
Meanwhile seem so senile, fakes monsters
I'm docile, fragile
I show gentile smiles, I take it a mile
People don't see the truth, in this booth
Under my tongue, over my tooth (ah-ooohh)
Eight nine spoof of my inner youth
Innocence


A NEW STAR IS BORN

I believe when someone passes away
either a star is born, energy so pure
that it creates new worlds
or as the soul releases
shatters into pieces
becoming free flowing thoughts
for my mental thesis
maybe we just don't understand
the spirits that still walk the land
or whatever the case
I believe that we all still remain
to share the same space

So dad I know you're listenin'
how you been?
oh I'm doin' fine just passin' time
submerged in sins sometimes i take a bath
and just get all dirty again
I try to cleanse my mind, cleanse my soul and get in
into that place you've been
no I'm not trying to rush anything
I just wanna visit you because I miss you
so what you trying to say?
my imagination's been wild since i been a child
and since you're laughin' then
I take it that good things are happenin'

The day I learned you were gone
a new star was born
distant voices fill my mind
said look up in the sky
and when I did there you were

Well I'm sure you already know this
I'm a big pop star
and my pops is a star (ha ha)
no you really are
sometimes I feel like an anus
I kinda made you a little famous
always spillin my guts
explainin' to these people who think I'm nuts
told them how you and moms knuckled up
my excuse for being such a disrupt
yeah they sure did
they called you an abusive drunk
sorry I didn't realize the media would run with it
but now I know and sometimes I try to have fun with it

What did you say you wished to be free
been here all this time because of me
and on August 16, 2001
anything that i wish to release
release? I see
first of all I give you my thanks for preparing me
to be open and free
I release my mind releasin' my soul
release the courage to break the mould
release my record 20 million sold
release my pops you're free to go
create a new galaxy yes dad
you'll still be right next to me


L.I.S.A.

Ya'll never really know me from the stories I tell
From the lifestyle I lead and the records I sell
Caught up in situations detrimental to me
And I been through every war just for the world to see
(That time) is always moving situations do change
(And Things) don't always work out just the way that we planned
(Still Stand) necessary be my friend and my foe
Either love me or you hate me, that's how the game goes
(If it's wrong) to be respected never ever say die
(Remain Strong) never neglected spread my wings and fly
(Like You) Ive been though struggles so much stress on my brain
Actin' out my life on stages and still had to maintain
(Question every decision) My intentions were good
Twist the story all around and leave me misunderstood
(Imagine That) No privacy but that's the price of this fame
(Under attack) my destiny to be a soldier through fame

Let me live live
Let me live
In in side inside intelligence
Say say say say what you gotta say
Always asking you will amazed
Let me live live
Let me live
In in side inside intelligence
Say say say say what you gotta say
Always ask and you will amazed

Just to make it in the world and go against all odds
Come from the gritty inner city to a superstar
Number one hits consistently for ten long years
Put my soul in every project my blood sweat and my tears
Ya'll know my status
Left eye the badest
Underestimate don't hate and I keep it lavish
But it don't mean nothing If I cant find peace of mind
Packing all distractions away leave them behind
Say goodbye hard times small crimes and felonies
A new beginning im winning envisioning the breeze
I'm dressed in all white linen and falling to my knees
Thankful for all that's been given, I'm living, with ease
Tropical trees 90 degrees, please
Do like the birds and the bees and start a family
So remise on every line that I wrote
Know that I never will surrender and its truth that I spoke

Let me live live
Let me live
In in side inside intelligence
Say say say say what you gotta say
Always asking you will amazed
Let me live live
Let me live
In in side inside intelligence
Say say say say what you gotta say
Always ask and you will amazed

I flew I flew like water like water
Am I desire like fire like fire
I'm picking up the dirt from the earth the earth
Imaging I'm the wind redelivering from people within
I flew I flew like water like water
Am I desire like fire like fire
I'm picking up the dirt from the earth the earth
Imaging I'm the wind redelivering from people within

Let me live live
Let me live
In in side inside intelligence
Say say say say what you gotta say
Always asking you will amazed
Let me live live
Let me live
In in side inside intelligence
Say say say say what you gotta say
Always ask and you will amazed

Let me live live, let me live
Let me love love, let me love
Let me learn learn, let me learn
Let me laugh laugh, let me laugh
Let me see see, let me see
Let me say say, let me say
Let me smile smile, let me smile
Let me ask ask, let me ask

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http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7278/lisalopeseyelegacy2008.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/lisalopeseyelegacy2008.jpg/)

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Her foundation logo

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/233/thumbnailvk.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/thumbnailvk.jpg/)

[lostworld]

As for TIs, I just remembered this excellent German movie called "Lives of Others". Its all about the free-thinking people in East Germany being targeted by government spies. Pre-Berlin wall coming down that is.

If you haven't seen it you should all give it a try. Powerful movie about tyranny and oppression. Here's the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_iLOp6IhM

Thanks for posting this Wakeup.

[emerald]

"Shakira has even, remarkably, studied the synapses of the infant brain. ‘The ages of zero to six are the most vulnerable years in the human life, when the cognitive skills and the social and motor skills are developing. Human beings have a very small window to form their foundation for life. After six years old that window closes. The life of that human being will be determined.’ " Interesting, ha?

SUSAN BOYLE is losing it again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1243502/Susan-Boyle-Oprah-First-pictures-SuBo-U-S-talk-fears-grow-erratic-behaviour.html

[david numen]

I'm a newbie to this particular thread and have read the first 40-odd pages and find it rather fascinating however I have many doubts too. For example, in the vast majority of cases the celebs who are "different" from their younger versions are all pretty much has-beens. Why would they be replaced AFTER they've peaked? Or could it be that they are kept beautiful and used whilst they are young and after they've served their usefulness they have to resort to bog-standard plastic surgery? Or is it that they are cloned early on in their career and replaced and these clones age badly (as in the Jerry Hall aging rapidly in a few years photos)?

[armoured_amazon]

SUSAN BOYLE is losing it again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1243502/Susan-Boyle-Oprah-First-pictures-SuBo-U-S-talk-fears-grow-erratic-behaviour.html

I get so angry when I see how they exploit her. What next? A TV show where people blatantly make fun of people with learning difficulties? :mad:

[emerald]

Extremely plastic KATIE PRICE(?) spotted yesterday at DANIELLE LLOYD's engagement party. Thats a doll...
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7019/article007e30ce6000005d.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/article007e30ce6000005d.jpg/)

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7642/article124387007e314190.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/article124387007e314190.jpg/)


Another bloodline, posted about her some page before. Coming back with a few more now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1243703/Did-Rosie-Huntington-Whiteley-looks-Royalty-No-bootmaker-called-Stump.html

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[emerald]

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COOL ALICE photo session, 2005

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[agruvchic]

I get so angry when I see how they exploit her. What next? A TV show where people blatantly make fun of people with learning difficulties? :mad:

Britain's Next Missing Top Model

I would say that is pretty damn close...

[armoured_amazon]

Britain's Next Missing Top Model

I would say that is pretty damn close...

What is it? :)

[blah]

Photoshop and plastic surgery works wonder and lets face it all of us change even without these things - every 10 years our cells change completely. So I think its a fantasy to think they are replaced by clones.

[agruvchic]

What is it? :)

It was a cycle of Britain's Next Top Model where all of the contestants were disabled in some way. They showed on BBC America here in the states and I assume it is just as big as America's Next Top Model here. They picked women of all different disabilities and attempted to put them into the mainstream modeling world, along with all of the photographers and agents reminding them that they have no place in the modeling world because they cannot physically or mentally do what "normal" models can do.
I think, at face value, it was an attempt to say that a disabled person CAN integrate into the modeling world, but the entire show pretty much exploited these girls by picking photo shoots that made them attempt to do what non-disabled models do and critiquing them for not being able to look like they are not disabled. I watched the entire series, as I am sure many did, but it was really exploitative and edited from a place of shame and not empowerment. You'd have to watch an episode or two to see what I mean...

[armoured_amazon]

It was a cycle of Britain's Next Top Model where all of the contestants were disabled in some way. They showed on BBC America here in the states and I assume it is just as big as America's Next Top Model here. They picked women of all different disabilities and attempted to put them into the mainstream modeling world, along with all of the photographers and agents reminding them that they have no place in the modeling world because they cannot physically or mentally do what "normal" models can do.
I think, at face value, it was an attempt to say that a disabled person CAN integrate into the modeling world, but the entire show pretty much exploited these girls by picking photo shoots that made them attempt to do what non-disabled models do and critiquing them for not being able to look like they are not disabled. I watched the entire series, as I am sure many did, but it was really exploitative and edited from a place of shame and not empowerment. You'd have to watch an episode or two to see what I mean...

Thanks, I'll check it out online. Yeah, the idea sounds fine, but we know how the media like to exploit.

:mad:

[noctua]

Emerald - I am not going to cut and paste your post because of all the photos, but I totally agree about the Jordan / doll thing. That "woman" is barely human. If she is not plastic-fantastic then she is borderling sociopath. She has no emotion.


As to the Alice in Wonderland....I am afraid that it is going through a resurgence and will only be more implanted in the overall-subsuperconscious with the upcoming Tim Burton epic. Starring the untouchable Johnny Depp ...

[emerald]

TILA may be crazy and what not but this time I must admit shes telling the damm truth. Well done, even the info is little!

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2010/01/17/tila-tequila-miley-cyrus-is-not-a-virgin/

[pound]

TILA may be crazy and what not but this time I must admit shes telling the damm truth. Well done, even the info is little!

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2010/01/17/tila-tequila-miley-cyrus-is-not-a-virgin/

This is good. I hope she keeps spilling the beans on these sickos in Hellewood. But I also hope she stays safe!

[armoured_amazon]

Yup, Tila is crazy as a box of frogs. Is she pregnant or not? Last I saw, she was tweeting like crazy about leaving Hollywood to have her kid, but that was 48 hrs ago, so anything could have happened. :rolleyes:

[lostworld]

I'm a newbie to this particular thread and have read the first 40-odd pages and find it rather fascinating however I have many doubts too. For example, in the vast majority of cases the celebs who are "different" from their younger versions are all pretty much has-beens. Why would they be replaced AFTER they've peaked? Or could it be that they are kept beautiful and used whilst they are young and after they've served their usefulness they have to resort to bog-standard plastic surgery? Or is it that they are cloned early on in their career and replaced and these clones age badly (as in the Jerry Hall aging rapidly in a few years photos)?

Hi David and welcome to Stepford :)

It's not easy say if someone is replaced or "just" mind controlled, since the common factor is the change in personality. However, if a person change both in personality AND appearance at the same time - then you might consider him/her having been replaced.

We have presented that the Elite most certainly has the technology for it so there's nothing stopping them really. However, they use human doubles too, not just clones. But it's "impossible" to know if someone was replaced by a clone, although we can have our suspicions, the personality is gone, the lack of soul etc.

And about plastic surgery: it's the perfect excuse for replacing someone, cause you don't question the person looking different... :rolleyes:

The main reason for someone being replaced is, IMO, that the person wants out, won't cooperate or can't be mind controlled (anymore).
When this is happening is another question... No, I don't think this just happens to has beens cause that wouldn't make sense.
And in many of these cases where we question if it's a human or a clone it's very much a person who's still active and has a successful a career.
Yes, the clones age badly (as we've also been posting about in this thread, perhaps you're not there yet in your reading) so what you say at the end, that they might be replaced early on in their career seems very likely (like for instance is what might have happened to Tom Cruise and Angelina Jolie).


Angelina Jolie - human or clone?
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[hermajesty]

Photoshop and plastic surgery works wonder and lets face it all of us change even without these things - every 10 years our cells change completely. So I think its a fantasy to think they are replaced by clones.

LOL! Yeah. That must be it :rolleyes: I'm sorry, but those lame arguments have not & will not work on this thread. Go ahead & keep trying, though. :p

[hermajesty]

Originally Posted by david numen
For example, in the vast majority of cases the celebs who are "different" from their younger versions are all pretty much has-beens. Why would they be replaced AFTER they've peaked?
Maybe that happens to some people, but Paul McCartney & Eddie Murphy were not replaced after they peaked. Paul was replaced in 1966 at the end of a major US tour. Eddie was doing well in the movies when he was replaced circa 1991. "Their" careers took a nosedive after the switch, b/c as Lostworld has pointed out, the doubles simply don't have the same talent or personality & charisma that the originals had.

Or is it that they are cloned early on in their career and replaced and these clones age badly (as in the Jerry Hall aging rapidly in a few years photos)?
It's possible that there are clones of some people who age badly. From what I've read, the process that they use to rapidly age a clone - to make it a full-grown human in a matter of days - keeps going so that the clone ages very quickly. Tom Cruise has been pointed out as an example of one looking haggard & wrinkled, and then coming back much younger looking. IMO, it's just a new clone replacing the worn-out one.

[blah]

you say that, that is a lame arguement and yet you have no proof what so ever that these people have been replaced with clones. You think their perfectly sculpted image is them! Without really looking into it at all, all you have is a few photos from different periods of their life, you havent met them. So its funny you say my arguement is lame but yours is by far lamer!!!! In that you clearly dont realise the wonders plastic surgery and photo shop can do. Actually people do change incredibly alot. The fact that you seem to think these ageing egotistical stars dont constantly tweek themselves is well ridiculous. When they have a career built on image thats half their preoccupation. Look how madonna has changed massively over the last few years since turning 50yrs. Thats just the way they react to the threat of being seen as unattractive or no longer as popular and it keeps everyone interested as you guys/girls are obsessed by it! Well done celebrities is all I can say they are doing their job VERY well indeed.


My mum aged rapidly over night and 3yrs years later looked 10yrs younger! Oh please........ Its how you live your life abit of stress and bad diet, health and anyone will look older. Correcting your lifestyle helps you look younger.

PROOOOOOOF! NOT just some glossy magazines, or LP covers please!!!!!!
Doubt very much anyone can prove any of these things. And have no specific dates as to when these people were replaced or why or how.

[hermajesty]

you say that, that is a lame arguement (sic) and yet you have no proof what so ever (sic) that these people have been replaced with clones.

I actually do have proof that at least one person was replaced by a double. See the Plastic Macca blog.

Without really looking into it at all, all you have is a few photos from different periods of their life, you havent met them.

"Without really looking into it at all?" lol I've been researching this topic for about a year and a half. How about you? I bet you haven't researched it for more than a day.

You don't need to meet people in person to see that they've been replaced. Photographs, videos, voiceprints, signatures, etc, are more than enough. Please see this article for more info:

What Evidence? A little primer on the law of evidence (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/what-evidence-little-on-law-of-evidence.html)

So its (sic) funny you say my arguement (sic) is lame but yours is by far lamer!!!!

Except I provide a little something called "evidence," plus citations to other people's research.

In that you clearly dont realise the wonders plastic surgery and photo shop can do.
Of course, I do. If you look at the blog, you will see articles on both of those subjects.

Doubles & Plastic Surgery (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/doubles-plastic-surgery.html)

Photo tampering & illusion creation (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/photo-tampering-illusion-creation.html)

Plastic surgery cannot account for some of the changes. I know for a fact that Paul McCartney did not take a year off of singing to have a series of painful surgeries to reconstruct his palate and jawline. Some of the changes aren't even possible with plastic surgery. This is coming from forensic experts. It's not just my opinion.

Why don't you come back when you've done a little more research.

[noctua]

Josh Dushamel and a very doll-like Fergie..taken yesterday. By the way, what is up with her hair-line???

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/18/article-1244052-07E62ABE000005DC-413_306x622.jpg

[sheep_o_lata]

Hi guys!

I have been lurking on the forum for yonks but could not resist adding my (little ) contribution after having spotted so many strange things recently :eek:

Last night, I watched an episode of South Park called 'Britney's New Look'. In the episode, the boys take pity on Britney Spears after a botched attempt at suicide that removes the upper two-thirds of her head, and try to save her from the cruel cycle of cultural martyrdom. (Source: Wikipedia)

At first I thought it was just another bad taste episode... but the more it went on and the more it was linking with rituals and they even mention her as a "human sacrifice" and how "human sacrifices have been going on for years and years" for "harvest" :eek:

A creepy music comes on (some sort of Illuminati music) when the crowd gathers for the ceremony where they kill her for the sacrifice...It is very spooky and you guys gotta watch it to see what I mean.

I also found out this : The haunting melodic chant sung by the Britney stalkers is similar to Ave Satani from Jerry Goldsmith's Oscar-winning score to the 1976 film The Omen. (http://www.southparkstuff.com/season_12/episode_1202/)

On another note, the movie The Prestige is a must watch : it features cloning, nikola tesla and Christian Bale (:p) .

Has anyone here watched it?

Looking forward to speaking to you guys :)

[noctua]

Hi there - yes, I have watched The Prestige. Very good story. I loved the stuff about Tesla.

South Park is full of some great slants at the underbelly of celebrity culture.

[wakeuptime]

Hi guys!

I have been lurking on the forum for yonks but could not resist adding my (little ) contribution after having spotted so many strange things recently :eek:

Last night, I watched an episode of South Park called 'Britney's New Look'. In the episode, the boys take pity on Britney Spears after a botched attempt at suicide that removes the upper two-thirds of her head, and try to save her from the cruel cycle of cultural martyrdom. (Source: Wikipedia)

At first I thought it was just another bad taste episode... but the more it went on and the more it was linking with rituals and they even mention her as a "human sacrifice" and how "human sacrifices have been going on for years and years" for "harvest" :eek:

A creepy music comes on (some sort of Illuminati music) when the crowd gathers for the ceremony where they kill her for the sacrifice...It is very spooky and you guys gotta watch it to see what I mean.

I also found out this : The haunting melodic chant sung by the Britney stalkers is similar to Ave Satani from Jerry Goldsmith's Oscar-winning score to the 1976 film The Omen. (http://www.southparkstuff.com/season_12/episode_1202/)

On another note, the movie The Prestige is a must watch : it features cloning, nikola tesla and Christian Bale (:p) .

Has anyone here watched it?

Looking forward to speaking to you guys :)

It would be great if you could post this episode. Is it available on Youtube? Cartoons seem to be used for getting Elite messages across. The Simpsons had references to 9-11 long before it happened.

I haven't seen Prestige but any references to Nikola Tesla get my attention. It seems his inventions have been widely used by the system (maybe HAARP came from his plans?). I'm even wondering if his ideas were used to design the Eiffel Tower which I suspect is a vehicle for manipulating energy.

Interesting how much info is coming out about clones lately. As usual they feed hints via movies. "Surrogates" comes to mind....

[emerald]

Josh Dushamel and a very doll-like Fergie..taken yesterday. By the way, what is up with her hair-line???

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/18/article-1244052-07E62ABE000005DC-413_306x622.jpg

She slept with LYNNE SPEARS (Brit's mom, naturlich) and A/FANGELINA JOLIE among many others. Small world this Hollywood!:D

[onourwayto2012]

A couple days after the earthquake I watched a movie called Megafault starring BRITTANY MURPHY where she plays some sort of earthquake expert.

[sheep_o_lata]

It would be great if you could post this episode. Is it available on Youtube? Cartoons seem to be used for getting Elite messages across. The Simpsons had references to 9-11 long before it happened.

I haven't seen Prestige but any references to Nikola Tesla get my attention. It seems his inventions have been widely used by the system (maybe HAARP came from his plans?). I'm even wondering if his ideas were used to design the Eiffel Tower which I suspect is a vehicle for manipulating energy.

Interesting how much info is coming out about clones lately. As usual they feed hints via movies. "Surrogates" comes to mind....

Hi Wakeuptime!

The episode can be watched here http://www.allabout-sp.net/?p=season12/1202 . I agree there are more and more obvious references to clones. I thought that the movie the Prestige itself was a good movie but even more knowing the importance that Nikola Tesla has... Also the movie tagline was something like "Have you been watching closely" and is quite significant in many ways!

[astrochicken]

...so...I start a new course in IT on Monday, so hopefully I'll have some new skills soon and can find a nice anti-social job at the end of it :D :D :D


Money,money, fucking money.. .

I work with computers and the only time i'm creative is on long weekends, holidays and sick leave.

'Puters leave you numb in the brain and stifle creativity.


ps. and a belated happy new year to all.. been avoiding these machines and writing music ;)

[emerald]

JANET for GOTHAM mag

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[wakeuptime]

Hi Wakeuptime!

The episode can be watched here http://www.allabout-sp.net/?p=season12/1202 . I agree there are more and more obvious references to clones. I thought that the movie the Prestige itself was a good movie but even more knowing the importance that Nikola Tesla has... Also the movie tagline was something like "Have you been watching closely" and is quite significant in many ways!

Hi Sheep_o_lata, the episode won't play on my system. Any other place to see it? Youtube didn't seem to have a working copy.

[hermajesty]

On another note, the movie The Prestige is a must watch : it features cloning, nikola tesla and Christian Bale (:p) .

Has anyone here watched it?


YES! I thought it was excellent. In the film, Tesla invented a doubles-creating machine. I wonder if that is real Tesla technology that has been suppressed?

Thanks for telling us about the Britney South Park episode, too :)

[armoured_amazon]

Money,money, fucking money.. .

I work with computers and the only time i'm creative is on long weekends, holidays and sick leave.

'Puters leave you numb in the brain and stifle creativity.


ps. and a belated happy new year to all.. been avoiding these machines and writing music ;)

Hehe, Happy New Year :)

"As the people here grow colder, I turn to my computer, and spend my evenings with it, like a friend..." - Kate Bush.

[emerald]

Ashton Kutcher Creeped Out By Demi Moore's Dolls

Ashton Kutcher is struggling with sleepless nights after agreeing to help his wife Demi Moore sort through her collection of over 3,000 dolls.

The Ghost actress began collecting rare figurines while she was married to Bruce Willis and she has since amassed so many dolls, she has insured the lot for $2.25 million.

However, Kutcher admits on his Twitter.com page he isn't as fond of the realistic toys as his wife is. And after checking out a few of the dolls, the actor is urging Moore to display them in her own museum - so he doesn't have to look at the creepy collection.

He writes on the social networking site, "Spent the day going through wifey's insane doll collection. 3000 thousand contemporary art dolls all staring at U (sic). I'm gonna have nightmares. I'm trying to convince wifey to open a doll museum. She also has thousands of Barbies and original GI Joes."

[cheryl]

A while back on this thread someone told a story of how someone's family ad been spotted by friends, however the family hadn't been where the friends had seen them tho the friends were absolutely convinced they had seen this family. (I did a quick search but couldn't find it - lots of posts :p)

Anyhow something similar happened to me just before Xmas. I was getting off the train on my way to work and noticed a woman looking at me pretty intently. I just thought 'whatever' and ignored her, however she kept looking at me all sort of furtively as we walked the length of the platform so I looked straight at her and asked if there was a problem. She was totally freaked out as she thought I was her daughter who she had just left in the house eating breakfast :confused: She said she couldn't figure out how I had caught the train at the same time as being at home and also couldn't understand how I wasn't 'recognising' her!!!

I mean how could any mother not recognise their own daughter that close up!! :eek:

So anyway, thought I'd share that cos it has shown me first hand that people can have such close doubles out there to be used as replacements.

Love this thread :D

[hermajesty]

A while back on this thread someone told a story of how someone's family ad been spotted by friends, however the family hadn't been where the friends had seen them tho the friends were absolutely convinced they had seen this family. (I did a quick search but couldn't find it - lots of posts :p)

...

So anyway, thought I'd share that cos it has shown me first hand that people can have such close doubles out there to be used as replacements.


That's a great story, Cheryl. I remember that post, too.

Thankfully, some of the doubles aren't very good, or else we would never have known there was such a thing as imposter-replacements. :eek:

[pound]

Interesting how Tila mentions in her latest tweets that she "knows so much" and that she "better shut up now"........Maybe this is her way of getting back at the Scum in Hellewood that murdered her Lover?
Her "So many A-list guys in Hollywood are actually Gay" comment was also very interesting if not telling:)

[michael_mac]

A while back on this thread someone told a story of how someone's family ad been spotted by friends, however the family hadn't been where the friends had seen them tho the friends were absolutely convinced they had seen this family. (I did a quick search but couldn't find it - lots of posts :p)

Anyhow something similar happened to me just before Xmas. I was getting off the train on my way to work and noticed a woman looking at me pretty intently. I just thought 'whatever' and ignored her, however she kept looking at me all sort of furtively as we walked the length of the platform so I looked straight at her and asked if there was a problem. She was totally freaked out as she thought I was her daughter who she had just left in the house eating breakfast :confused: She said she couldn't figure out how I had caught the train at the same time as being at home and also couldn't understand how I wasn't 'recognising' her!!!

I mean how could any mother not recognise their own daughter that close up!! :eek:

So anyway, thought I'd share that cos it has shown me first hand that people can have such close doubles out there to be used as replacements.

Love this thread :D

Could it simply be Mental Illness! The woman who thought you were her daughter was insane!

[hermajesty]

Could it simply be Mental Illness! The woman who thought you were her daughter was insane!

Why do you post here? I have yet to see you post anything worthwhile.

[armoured_amazon]

why do you post here? I have yet to see you post anything worthwhile.

Best post of the day.

[hermajesty]

I suppose some people (obviously new to the stepford topic) think they are clever when they rationalize that people have just had plastic surgery or that people are "crazy," as though no one has ever considered those possibilities before. I suspect a lot of us made those assumptions before we started researching stepfording & doubles. I don't find those pat, dismissive rationalizations helpful to the research, & I do not appreciate them. What do you think you are going to achieve? That those of us who have been researching this for a while are just going to shrug our shoulders & say, "oh, yeah, you must be right. It was just plastic surgery/that person was crazy," & completely disregard the information that has been uncovered regarding mind control & military/intell use of doubles? Yeah, I don't think so. Try doing a little research before making ignorant arguments. Oh, & if you are going to resort to the most obvious sheeple arguments, then please at least back them up with citations to research. Thanks.

/rant over (for now)

[armoured_amazon]

I suppose some people (obviously new to the stepford topic) think they are clever when they rationalize that people have just had plastic surgery or that people are "crazy," as though no one has ever considered those possibilities before. I suspect a lot of us made those assumptions before we started researching stepfording & doubles. I don't find those pat, dismissive rationalizations helpful to the research, & I do not appreciate them. What do you think you are going to achieve? That those of us who have been researching this for a while are just going to shrug our shoulders & say, "oh, yeah, you must be right. It was just plastic surgery/that person was crazy," & completely disregard the information that has been uncovered regarding mind control & military/intell use of doubles? Yeah, I don't think so. Try doing a little research before making ignorant arguments. Oh, & if you are going to resort to the most obvious sheeple arguments, then please at least back them up with citations to research. Thanks.

/rant over (for now)

He's doing it one of the Lady Gaga threads, too. I pretty much had this same conversation a few moments ago. :rolleyes:

[hermajesty]

Best post of the day.

LOL! Thanks :)

Stepford has some great research on it. I would like to see the quality remain high.

[hermajesty]

He's doing it one of the Lady Gaga threads, too. I pretty much had this same conversation a few moments ago. :rolleyes:

Yeah, you have to wonder what people's motivations are (as though we can't guess :rolleyes:)

[armoured_amazon]

Yeah, you have to wonder what people's motivations are (as though we can't guess :rolleyes:)

Hehehe :D

[hermajesty]

Hehehe :D

Why would some guy sit on a Lady Gaga thread, anyway? What is he saying - how ridiculous it is? I don't know about you, but if I think something is ridiculous, boring, or stupid, etc, I don't spend a lot of time on it. Catch my drift?

[armoured_amazon]

Why would some guy sit on a Lady Gaga thread, anyway? What is he saying - how ridiculous it is? I don't know about you, but if I think something is ridiculous, boring, or stupid, etc, I don't spend a lot of time on it. Catch my drift?

Especially when all the questions he poses have been answered earlier in the threads, anyway. He doesn't want a discussion, he just wants to derail and provoke.

[pound]

Oh, yeah.. I forgot about her "relationship" with Frank Sinatra.

I was reading the other day about Mia Farrow, and how John Lennon took her to India to meditate with the Yogi; and how Mia filmed the movie "Rosemary's Baby" in the Dakota - the same building that John Lennon lived in and was shot dead in front of.

And how Rosemary's Baby, directed by Roman Polanski, featured a baby given to sacrifice (also the lead warlock in film was named "Roman"); and how Roman Polanski's own baby, one year later, was killed(sacrificed?) by members of the Manson family. And Charles Manson got his qeues from the White Album written by John Lennon/Paul McCartney.

Also - the Manson family murdered, (a day or two after Sharon Tate, baby etal) Rosemary and Leo LaBianca.

All these connections are mind-boggling.

http://www.bobgruen.com/files/johnlennon/files/R.006%20JOHN%20LENNON-MSG.jpghttp://www.cinemovies.fr/images/data/photos/G265888137239.jpg
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/rosemarylabianca.jpghttp://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00803/My%20Pictures/Manson_1.jpg

John Lennon, Roman Polanski and Mia Farrow, Rosemary LaBianca, Charles Manson

Also of interest is how Anton Levay (founder and leader of the Church of Satan) was the Set advisor.

[hermajesty]

Also of interest is how Anton Levay (founder and leader of the Church of Satan) was the Set advisor.

All of these connections are not coincidental. There is a larger framework/hierarchy of Illuminati, Satanists, intel, & entertainers. Trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together, but it's definitely challenging.

[pound]

Agreed.....I always found the Jane Mansfield story interesting in relation to Mr. Levay. Something having to do with Levay being upset with his then girlfriend (mansfield) and how he went about cutting the head off of a photo of hers in a magazine and wishing death upon her!
Strangely enough she died a gruesome death soon there after, of course, in which she was decapitated in a car accident.

[the seeker]

This may be my favorite thread ever. And you people are batshit crazy. :D

[hermajesty]

And you people are batshit crazy. :D

Isn't calling people "crazy" the oldest trick in the book of disinfo agents? :rolleyes: I think you're confusing "well-informed" with "crazy."

Pound, that Mansfield incident with Levay is worth looking into more.

[engelsblume]

Don't know whether it was posted yet, but here's another separated at birth case. Saw Joey Lauren Adams on tv yesterday and mistook her for Rene Zelweger.

Joey

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/LMoondancer/joeyllauren.jpg

Joey and Rene

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/LMoondancer/zellweger-adams-560.jpg

[noctua]

Isn't calling people "crazy" the oldest trick in the book of disinfo agents? :rolleyes: I think you're confusing "well-informed" with "crazy."

Pound, that Mansfield incident with Levay is worth looking into more.

Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield (she's an actress in one of those "Law and Order" spin offs...she was also asleep in the back of the car when it crashed, killing her mother.

By the way, Anton Lavey had some other interesting "girlfriends"....

Anton LaVey found Marilyn Monroe, a Jewish girl, working as a striptease in the strip clubs. LaVey helped her performance, and through his connections got her started on her big career...

...Kennedy also had long term relationships with some of the women he was sexually active with. It is those relationships which reveal so much about the hidden Satanic side of the Kennedys. John F. Kennedy had three long term girlfriends, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield, and Zsa Zsa Gabor which were ALSO girlfriends of Anton LaVey, who has headed the Church of Satan. Jayne Mansfield was a high priestess of the Church of Satan. Marilyn Monroe was a participant in LaVey’s satanic rituals before LaVey founded his Church of Satan. Both JFK and his brother Robert Kennedy had affairs going with Marilyn Monroe, and both visited her just prior to her mysterious death.

[hannah50]

Kennedy also had long term relationships with some of the women he was sexually active with. It is those relationships which reveal so much about the hidden Satanic side of the Kennedys. John F. Kennedy had three long term girlfriends, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield, and Zsa Zsa Gabor which were ALSO girlfriends of Anton LaVey, who has headed the Church of Satan. Jayne Mansfield was a high priestess of the Church of Satan. Marilyn Monroe was a participant in LaVey’s satanic rituals before LaVey founded his Church of Satan. Both JFK and his brother Robert Kennedy had affairs going with Marilyn Monroe, and both visited her just prior to her mysterious death. Zsa Zsa has been interested for years in the occult. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 6. Kennedy

Well, isn't THAT just interesting as all get out.... :eek:

[wakeuptime]

Anyhow something similar happened to me just before Xmas. I was getting off the train on my way to work and noticed a woman looking at me pretty intently. I just thought 'whatever' and ignored her, however she kept looking at me all sort of furtively as we walked the length of the platform so I looked straight at her and asked if there was a problem. She was totally freaked out as she thought I was her daughter who she had just left in the house eating breakfast :confused: She said she couldn't figure out how I had caught the train at the same time as being at home and also couldn't understand how I wasn't 'recognising' her!!!



Cheryl, this used to happen to me fairly often. People would mistake me for someone else, say I remind them of a friend or ask if I have a twin. It was very strange to have it happen even once, but I experienced it three or four times.

So, yes, the idea of a double is hardly far fetched. There are mysteries that we're only beginning to notice and don't yet completely understand.

[emerald]

Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield (she's an actress in one of those "Law and Order" spin offs...she was also asleep in the back of the car when it crashed, killing her mother.

By the way, Anton Lavey had some other interesting "girlfriends"....

This is wrong info and I saw it many times on conspiracy sites. MM wasnt Jewish in any way.

[emerald]

Another cardiac arrest at a young person?

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/gaines-adams-chicago-bears-defensive-end-dead-at-26.html

[agruvchic]

Apologies if this is a repost....

Miley Cyrus lyrics for "Robot" her upcoming album title and single which has already been leaked. Sounds like a BAD case of laryngitis...:p

Miley Cyrus - Robot (Real Full Song - Link in Description and Annotation) - YouTube

You have
Turned me into
Something that I'm not meant to be

You reprogrammed me
And made me into
The man
That you want me to be

Oh my god I didn't know
Anything that I should know
You were just the one to show me how

Everything I had to do
Star again, all brand new
But I didn't know oh how

Waiting here for your call
Waiting for instructional
Booklet to tell me how

Nothing that I ever do
Was ever good enough for you
You have changed my program and now

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
What can I do?

I'm a changed man
You had me programmed
It's part of your plan
What can I do?

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
You changed me, reprogrammed me

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
What can I do?

Oh my god I didn't know
Anything that I should know
You were just the one to show me how

Do this, do that
You would shout
If I didn't do it now
Then you would turn my lights out
(Out out)

Waiting on your beck and call
Waiting for instructional
Booklet to tell me how

But I seem to have go
I am now your robot
Not allowed, out on my own

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
What can I do?

I'm a changed man
You had me programmed
It's part of your plan
What can I do?

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
You changed me, reprogrammed me

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
What can I do?

Oh my god I couldn't see
You were really changing me
Making me into somebody new
(New new)

You were just controlling me
You were just composing me
Now I wanna refuse oh

Like a robot
Taking me over
I don't know nothing
What can I do?

I'm a changed man
You had me programmed
It's part of your plan
You changed me, reprogrammed me
You changed me, reprogrammed me

Like a robot
(I'm not your robot)
Taking me over
(I'm not your robot)
I don't know nothing
(I'm not your robot)
(I'm not your robot)
(No more)

(I'm not your robot)
What can I do?

[noctua]

Quote:
Originally Posted by noctua View Post
Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield (she's an actress in one of those "Law and Order" spin offs...she was also asleep in the back of the car when it crashed, killing her mother.

By the way, Anton Lavey had some other interesting "girlfriends"....
This is wrong info and I saw it many times on conspiracy sites. MM wasnt Jewish in any way.
This is wrong info and I saw it many times on conspiracy sites.


Errrmmm - yes it is true..

Mini Biography

Mariska (Ma-rish-ka) Magdolna Hargitay was born on January 23, 1964, in Santa Monica, California. Her parents are Mickey Hargitay and Jayne Mansfield. She is the youngest of their three children. In June 1967, Mariska and her brothers Zoltan and Mickey Jr. were in the back seat of a car when it was involved in the fatal accident which killed her mother. The children escaped with minor injuries.

Mariska majored in theater at UCLA but dropped out before graduating. Her first motion picture feature was the cult favorite, Ghoulies (1985), where she gave a memorable performance as Donna. She also appeared in Leaving Las Vegas (1995), credited as 'Hooker at the bar', and in Lake Placid (1999) as Myra Okubo. Her latest movie, Plain Truth (2004) (TV), in which she plays attorney Ellie Harrison will air in the fall of 2004.

In 1999 she was cast in the role of Det. Olivia Benson in "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" (1999), the first spinoff from the excellent franchise of "Law & Order" (1990) (which also has two other spinoffs, "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (2001) and "Law & Order: Trial by Jury" (2005)). This show deals with sex crimes and the detectives who solve these cases.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002127/bio


And I didn't mention anything about MM being Jewish. If I did, then I am mistaken.

[noctua]

Another cardiac arrest at a young person?

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/gaines-adams-chicago-bears-defensive-end-dead-at-26.html

Wow - you'd think that they would have seen that he had an enlarged heart during whatever extensive medical he must have had before joining the team. I would think it was a pre-existing condition.

[pert]

Shakira is possessed:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9217/shakirapossessed.jpg

By NYPOST
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/animal_sounds_0oqjljAX9dfRU3eHJpl3FJ#ixzz0YtW3oXg9
"Earlier this month, actress Demi Moore declared herself a puma. And on Shakira’s new record, “She Wolf,” out today, the sexy Colombian chanteuse says she’s possessed by the spirit of the title animal — loba in Spanish

By DailyStar UK
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/102968/Shakira-get-possessed-/
Speaking to i-D magazine, she said: “When I got in that cage, I feel like I went unconscious.
“I felt somehow possessed by the spirit of the She Wolf, which has been inside of me all these years longing to come out.”

(My comment: Michael Jackson does the werewolf thing before he was laced with Illuminati symbols too. Unfortunately at the end, he realized the truth and got killed for it.)


Shakira's new music video
Paraphrased lyrics: All the success you get, give it to me.
The music video shows sun symbolisms and Shakira dressed as the statue of liberty. Lil Wayne telling her to give all success to him represents Lucifer controlling her like a puppet when she's on stage / video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWp436JqB6c

Btw, if you go on Youtube. The top banner shows Alice in Wonderland ad with a man in a rabbit/business suit costume. It's sickening.

the lyrics to the song "Rules" on her "Laundrey Service" album are pretty interesting:

You have to swear
You've got love to love me
Aah aah
That will last forever
Aah aah
We must have a story
Aah aah
With a happy ending

Aah, Aah
So don't ever go away
And never put aside
The things I'm gonna say
Cause these are the rules for us

Use your eyes only to look at me
Use your mouth
Only to kiss my lips
We are branches of the same old tree

You can laugh
Only if you laugh with me
You can cry
Only if you cry for me
Don't forget that you're condemned to me

Oh can't you see
You always were
You'll always be

You used to say
I should see a doctor
Aah aah
Who would keep me busy
Aah aah

Cause a jealous woman
Never makes it easy

Aah, aah
And you know I'll do for us
Whatever seems right
But it may take awhile
Before I change the rules

Use your eyes only to look at me
Use your mouth
Only to kiss my lips
We are the branches of the same old tree

You can laugh
Only if you laugh with me
You can cry
Only if you cry for me
Don't forget that you're condemned to me

Oh can't you see
You always were x2
You'll always be

Note where it says "These are the rules for us" and "you're condemned to me", a possible reference to her handler?

[david numen]

Agreed.....I always found the Jane Mansfield story interesting in relation to Mr. Levay. Something having to do with Levay being upset with his then girlfriend (mansfield) and how he went about cutting the head off of a photo of hers in a magazine and wishing death upon her!
Strangely enough she died a gruesome death soon there after, of course, in which she was decapitated in a car accident.

Except she wasn't decapitated. Photos from the scene of the accident show her wig lying on the road which lead to rumours that her head had been chopped off during the accident.

[michael_mac]

I suppose some people (obviously new to the stepford topic) think they are clever when they rationalize that people have just had plastic surgery or that people are "crazy," as though no one has ever considered those possibilities before. I suspect a lot of us made those assumptions before we started researching stepfording & doubles. I don't find those pat, dismissive rationalizations helpful to the research, & I do not appreciate them. What do you think you are going to achieve? That those of us who have been researching this for a while are just going to shrug our shoulders & say, "oh, yeah, you must be right. It was just plastic surgery/that person was crazy," & completely disregard the information that has been uncovered regarding mind control & military/intell use of doubles? Yeah, I don't think so. Try doing a little research before making ignorant arguments. Oh, & if you are going to resort to the most obvious sheeple arguments, then please at least back them up with citations to research. Thanks. /rant over (for now)

If someone came up to me on a train station platform and followed me and then said "I think you are my son or something" the first thing that any rational person would think is they are mentally ill! I tried to accept you Paul McCartney ideas but I have seen several images of him in recent times with the ears that he had before 66 when you reckon he was replaced. This would suggest that the photo showing his ears that you claim indicate he was replaced aren't correct.

This is my research! It seems that you people want "yes posters" people who agree with everything you say and don't question anything.

Anybody who doesn't tow the line is considered to be a spammer or troll who's opinions are not valid! Dangerous thinking!

[michael_mac]

Why would some guy sit on a Lady Gaga thread, anyway? What is he saying - how ridiculous it is? I don't know about you, but if I think something is ridiculous, boring, or stupid, etc, I don't spend a lot of time on it. Catch my drift?

I wasn't sitting on the Lady Gaga thread. I posted something to the original poster and there was a reply so I replied to it. AA came on bla bla!

[starstuff]

Bit of a tangent, sorry.

I've been gutted since I realised Sting was being "handled" (Fields of Gold is one of my all-time favourite songs :() thanks to this thread. Lately I've had Moon Over Bourbon Street running through my head so I thought I'd post the lyrics here.

There's a moon over Bourbon Street tonight
I see faces as they pass beneath the pale lamplight
I've no choice but to follow that call
The bright lights, the people, and the moon and all
I pray everyday to be strong
For I know what I do must be wrong
Oh you'll never see my shade or hear the sound of my feet
While there's a moon over Bourbon Street

It was many years ago that I became what I am
I was trapped in this life like an innocent lamb
Now I can only show my face at noon
And you'll only see me walking by the light of the moon
The brim of my hat hides the eye of a beast
I've the face of a sinner but the hands of a priest
Oh you'll never see my shade or hear the sound of my feet
While there's a moon over Bourbon Street

She walks everyday through the streets of New Orleans
She's innocent and young from a family of means
I have stood many times outside her window at night
To struggle with my instinct in the pale moon light
How could I be this way when I pray to God above
I must love what I destroy and destroy the thing I love
Oh you'll never see my shade or hear the sound of my feet
While there's a moon over Bourbon Street

[wakeuptime]

This is my research! It seems that you people want "yes posters" people who agree with everything you say and don't question anything.

Anybody who doesn't tow the line is considered to be a spammer or troll who's opinions are not valid! Dangerous thinking!

Since all you ever do, michael mac, is post inflammatory, negative, argumentative things that contradict all the research others have put into this thread, I can only assume you're either a shill or you have fixed ideas that will never let anything else in.

that is your perogative. Many people spend their lives with closed minds.

No one is asking you or anyone else to believe every word written here but before you criticize, call us crazy or whatever other insults you wish to sling, we do ask some research be done and some thought put into your posts.

Our thinking is not dangerous except to the control system.

Closed minds like yours are dangerous though.

Beyond that I won't argue with you. Keep your fixed opinions and have a happy life. :)

[the_magician]

Greetings to all!

This is an absolutely fascinating thread, and seems to have morphed into something much bigger that what might have been intended by the original poster. Now encompassing 'mind control', some strange symbolic language, rituals, as well as 'replacements' (human and synthetic). I do get the impression that there is something interesting here, but I also have a lot of questions, which will hopefully get some good discussion going.

For my first post, I'd like to alert you to something I came across the other day. This blog belongs to a alt/goth/supermodel named Apnea.

http://www.apneasblog.com/

The pictures are rife with the symbolism familiar to readers of this thread: Red shoes, Alice in Wonderland, cages, mirrors, horns, dolls, eye stuff. Apnea also seems to have that 'far-away', and 'pose-able' look about her. What is also particularly interesting is that she writes a blog. I have not read it in detail, but a quick scan releaved some passages of interest in relation to the themes of this thread. Notably:

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Saturday, October 17, 2009, 06:49 PM

When I let things get to me they really get to me bad. The worst is when all of my senses become magnified. The normal sound of the fan swinging around will keep me awake until the sun comes up and the smallest bit of moonlight shining through the small cracks of the blinds will look like clear beams of light running across the room, almost like a flashlight was being shined in. It only used to take half of a sleeping pill but lately that just cuts the anxiety enough for me to be able to get up to go to the bathroom. Last night I was so scared as I walked down the hallway that I had to turn on every light switch as I walked past it. When I made it to the bathroom I looked in the mirror and scared myself so bad I almost fell over. My eyes were dark and I looked like I had been possessed by fear. The funny thing is earlier I had edited a girl's photos and her eyes had looked so heavy in a way I wasn't used to seeing. Then I remembered she had just broken up with her boyfriend and had moved out of their house, maybe she was filled with fear too and that's why our eyes looked so similar at that moment.

I know where the fear is coming from. I have recently gone through every set on my site and seeing it really affected me. I have no emotional attachment to any of it, it's not that. It's the writing from the set descriptions when I first started, and shooting the sets I shot just for "content". At a chair. By a window. At a chair in front of a window. Same bed, same pose, same makeup. The set descriptions sound so bad to me that I haven't even been able to update a blog because I couldn't get those words out of my head. I could barely write on Twitter. And so many of those photos, it just isn't me anymore. Everything I do now has love and soul put into it. I actually care about it. It's definitely not for the money, believe me. I guess it's interesting for someone to watch the progression from the beginning to now. It's definitely noticeable. The photos get bigger, the quality gets better, the editing gets better, the set descriptions sound like I wrote them with humility, but even still I have doubts about myself.

I wish so much I could tell everyone all of the things I didn't write that had my name on it. I have a horrendous story I could tell about things that have happened.

At least, as painfully slow as it has been, the people I wanted to find out on their own are finding out for themselves things I've been too scared to say or that nobody would believe when I said it.

Love, me

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I added the italics in the above blog post. Here is another one:

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From December 17 2009:

When Steve emailed me this set I read the set name and laughed to myself. I'd been rubbing the rose quartz in my pocket and gazing at the obsidian pyramid on the desk earlier wondering how I was going to make it through the rest of this month. It's also appropriate because I was scared when I was shooting those, it was my first time working with him and I couldn't figure out what was going on with my hair or the feather thing in it so I just kept flipping it around every which way in between poses.

Sometimes when I wake up I'll turn over and catch a glare off the gold talismans we have nailed into the wall next to the bed. Then I come and sit at the desk and see Chase's lucky silver eagle sitting beneath the fortune cookie messages we have taped up to the doorway. Superstition and paranoia make for a great collection of trinkets. Sometimes I'll get really obsessed with a particular one. Right now it's the heart shaped rose quartz. I can't keep my hand off of it. I can't stop rubbing it against my lips when I'm reading or thinking about anything.

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Apnea has some very interesting tattoos. I think at one point was was married to her principle photographer, ex Suicide Girls snapper Philip Warner ( Philip Warner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). She seems to have a clothing range out called 'Cult Life'.

Many people in the fashion / music / film industry could conceivably just be copying styles they've seen, or styles that are in vogue, and there may be no sinister agenda behind it. In this way the symbolism is still perpetuated, but it is perpetuated unconsciously.

We need to dig deeper. We need to look at who designs these picture sets, who chooses the props, who has artist control and picks out the outfits. Then we need to identify if this symbolism is being consciously chosen. If it is, we might like to consider why.

Am I making sense?

PS: From Wikipedia:

Apnea, apnoea, or apnœa (Greek: απνοια, from α-, privative, πνεειν, to breathe) is a term for suspension of external breathing. During apnea there is no movement of the muscles of respiration and the volume of the lungs initially remains unchanged. Depending on the patency (openness) of the airways there may or may not be a flow of gas between the lungs and the environment; gas exchange within the lungs and cellular respiration is not affected. Apnea can be voluntarily achieved (e.g., "holding one's breath"), drug-induced (e.g., opiate toxicity), mechanically induced (e.g., strangulation or choking), or it can occur as a consequence of neurological disease or trauma.

[hermajesty]

I tried to accept you Paul McCartney ideas but I have seen several images of him in recent times with the ears that he had before 66 when you reckon he was replaced. This would suggest that the photo showing his ears that you claim indicate he was replaced aren't correct.
You've seen photoshopped pictures of Faul's ears.

Photo tampering & illusion creation (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/photo-tampering-illusion-creation.html)

Faul's ears are definitely not the same as Paul's were. There are plenty of ear comps here to convince an unbiased person that they are not the same ears:

Faul's false ears (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/12/fauls-false-ears.html)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3806/apulcorpse.2/0_15026_e115ff19_XL.jpg

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/james_paul_mccartney_faul_ear_compa.jpg

It just couldn't be more obvious that those aren't the same ears. And besides

Forensic science proves Paul was replaced (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2010/01/forensic-science-proves-paul-was.html)

Don't be duped by the double :p

This is my research! It seems that you people want "yes posters" people who agree with everything you say and don't question anything.
It would be nice if people would post quality comments or research. It gets really old when people just post things like those people are "crazy" or "had plastic surgery." Those are the most obvious sheeple rationalizations and just make the poster look uniformed.

Anybody who doesn't tow the line is considered to be a spammer or troll who's opinions are not valid! Dangerous thinking!
The opinions of uninformed people do not carry as much weight as informed people, IMO. Also, I think it's a given that there is an information war going on in cyberspace. There are posters who have an agenda.

PID & Truth Suppression (http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/pid-truth-suppression.html)

[hermajesty]

Michael_Mac, just out of curiosity, do you think these are the same ears?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole3.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole4.jpg

Peter O'Toole at Doppels (http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=158)

Or maybe you think someone is trying to start a "rumor" that Peter O'Toole was replaced? And if so, why would they do that, especially since very few people have even heard of this "conspiracy theory?"

[cheryl]

Could it simply be Mental Illness! The woman who thought you were her daughter was insane!

Listen, this woman was really perturbed, totally thrown that I was there. We carried on walking up the road together, her amazed at meeting her daughter's double and me just dumbfounded.

[brainfreeze]

Michael_Mac, just out of curiosity, do you think these are the same ears?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole3.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole4.jpg

Peter O'Toole at Doppels (http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=158)

Or maybe you think someone is trying to start a "rumor" that Peter O'Toole was replaced? And if so, why would they do that, especially since very few people have even heard of this "conspiracy theory?"

Your ears and nose don't stop growing so I'd be surprised if anyones ears are the same decades later. I think photos of Paul to demonstrate the ear match have either been stretched or shrunk to match or not match each other in photos because Pauls ears when he started out would have been smaller than what the old man has today, not because he was replaced, but because he aged, and his ears grew but the basic shape remains the same. Show me a pic of "faul" in 66 and match his ears to his ears today with a descrepency in size and I might believe you.

Just my opinion as I'm not convinced Paul was replaced.

[cheryl]

If someone came up to me on a train station platform and followed me and then said "I think you are my son or something" the first thing that any rational person would think is they are mentally ill! !

She didn't approach me - I approached her because there was obviously something up,and when I asked she told me in a disbelieving but straightforward way - anyway not gonna keep on making this point, the story is what it is.

Yes wakeuptime I've also experienced people always thinking they've met me before, to an absolutely ridiculous degree before - no matter where I went someone would approach me. It hasn't happened in ages now though, apart from the train incident, and it is disconcerting. :)

[wakeuptime]

The opinions of uninformed people do not carry as much weight as informed people, IMO. Also, I think it's a given that there is an information war going on in cyberspace. There are posters who have an agenda.




Its just been revealed that Obama's internet "czar" wants all truth forums and organizations infiltrated with government spies to shut down their "dangerous" conspiracy talk.

Something to consider with certain posters who do nothing but cause trouble; a good nuimber of them are well paid to be here.

Paul Watson on Alex Jones Tv: Obama’s Info Czar Sets Plan To Infiltrate Truthers & Alex Jones

Friday, January 15th, 2010

Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obamas appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, outlined a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy.

Here's the article with videos of the show.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/paul-watson-on-alex-jones-tv-13-obamas-info-czar-sets-plan-to-infiltrate-truthers-alex-jones.html

Knew they were here for a reason.:p

[hermajesty]

Your ears and nose don't stop growing so I'd be surprised if anyones ears are the same decades later.
Maybe Peter O'Toole was exposed to some atomic radiation that made his ears explode in growth. lol

...When employing face or lip as a biometric, changing of their appearance with the expression of the subject creates problem but in case of ear the shape and appearance is fixed.

...Identification by ear biometrics is promising because it is passive like face recognition, but instead of the difficulties to extract face biometrics, it uses robust and simply extracted biometrics like those in fingerprinting. The ear is a unique feature of human beings. Even the ears of “identical twins” differ in some respects. There are persons in crime laboratories that assume that the human external ear characteristics are unique to each individual and unchanging during the lifetime of an adult...

Person Identification Using Ear Biometrics
Md. Mahbubur Rahman, Md. Rashedul Islam, Nazmul Islam Bhuiyan, Bulbul Ahmed, Md. Aminul Islam
http://www.journal.au.edu/ijcim/2007/may07/IJCIMvol15no2_article1.pdf


... All we have two, one by ear, but the characteristics are different for every human being. "In Germany, a recognition procedure craniometrico, identification of the right ear even tantamount to fingerprint, ie the collection of fingerprints," recalls Carlesi. But what trago? It is the small cartilage covered with skin that overhangs the entrance to the ear and ear canal, like the whole ear, not be changed surgically. How then to explain the differences between the right ear of Paul McCartney in a previous snapshot to 1966 and probably a built in the late nineties? It is not only to betray trago a different conformation as well as other parts, just above the ear canal entrance, measurements and dell'antelice propeller. Things that ordinary mortals might seem irrelevant or unclear, but instead, every day, allowing the experts to locate and identify persons, bodies, photographs...

ASK WHO WAS THE "BEATLE"
Fabio Gigante Andriola and Alessandra | 15 July 2009
********************/mw83db


The tragus doesn't change w/ age. You can't even change it w/ surgery. And yet, it's different on Paul & Faul.

I don't think you need to be an expert in biometrics to see that these aren't the same ears.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/ears.jpg

You can't attribute the changes in Paul's ears to "age" when there is a vast difference in the ears from 1966 to 1967. Sorry.

I think photos of Paul to demonstrate the ear match have either been stretched or shrunk to match or not match each other in photos because Pauls ears when he started out would have been smaller than what the old man has today, not because he was replaced, but because he aged, and his ears grew but the basic shape remains the same.
The "age argument" simply doesn't work. This is a screen shot of "Paul's" ears in the Strawberry Fields video (1967). You can go & look at the video yourself to see that no one has tampered w/ it.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/FaulEar.jpg

Do you see how that is a lot different from Paul's ears just a few years before?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Beatlesphotos/beatlespaul.jpg

Show me a pic of "faul" in 66 and match his ears to his ears today with a descrepency in size and I might believe you.

In the case of Paul/Faul, it's not just the ears that are different. It's the mandibular curve, palate, canines, width of the mouth, nasal spine, eye color, height, personality, talent, etc.

If you're not going to believe forensic experts, you're not going to believe me. If you can't see that Paul was stepforded, then you're probably not going to be able to see it w/ anyone, b/c Faul really is a very bad double. He has only been able to fool people b/c they don't know about doubles.
If he had been a spy, he would have been detected as a phoney a mile away.

[hermajesty]

Its just been revealed that Obama's internet "czar" wants all truth forums and organizations infiltrated with government spies to shut down their "dangerous" conspiracy talk.


As though this hasn't been going on for years. :rolleyes: They haven't been able to control the Internet (yet), so they try to discredit/"debunk" any information that they don't want exposed. I find it hard to believe that the concept of stepfording or replaCIAments is beyond the scope of the average David Icke forum member. The people who cannot seem to grasp the concept are maybe not the "average" member.

I've noticed a pattern that whenever Paul McCartney is mentioned, some people start posting about how "ridiculous" it is that he was replaced. Why? IMO, Paul is THE domino. If the Truth comes out about him, it's all over for TPTB. People will know about the imposter-replaCIAment program, & it will be a lot harder for them to switch people out w/out the public noticing. Therefore, it's important to keep a lid on it.

[klenaus]

I'm new to all this and I do see how it's possible.

My input is related to Suri. She reminds me of the main character in Orphan. How she was really an adult but looked just like a child.

[hannah50]

Magician - I followed the link to the blog. OMG! I feel really sorry for her. And all I did was look at three pages of pictures and scan the text you posted. Beautiful young women selling their souls, and maybe some of them don't really realize it.

And, WTF is this about? Page 3 of the pictures. She sold it on ebay for $1,525.00!! I find this incredibly creepy (it's called Daddy's Girl). :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/hannahpatricia/Miscellaneous/dadad.jpg

Someone paid that much for it???

And I see that a couple of pages ago Natalie Wood was mentioned. She's been a favorite of mine since I can remember (the 1960s). I'm not one to get all caught up in celebrities and stars, but when I heard she died I slid to the floor in my room and sobbed. It was so untimely, and there were such strange circumstances surrounding the events that night.

It's one Hollywood death that really didn't yeild much "to-do" after the fact. It just 'was what it was' and that was it. I'm pleased that Christopher Walken was mentioned in this thread since I never did trust his presence on the boat that night. There were rumors that Natalie and he had an affair and that's what caused the ruckus that night, then there was a question I saw posed long ago that 'what if it were Robert and he that were having an affair?"

And how long did it take Jill St. John and he to become buddy-buddy after her death?

From wiki:

In early 1982, Wagner began a relationship with actress Jill St. John, who coincidentally was a childhood friend of Natalie Wood and Wagner's Hart to Hart co-star Stefanie Powers.[citation needed] After an eight-year courtship, they were married on May 26, 1990.


PS: totally bitchen' thread. :cool:

[noctua]

Bit of a tangent, sorry.

I've been gutted since I realised Sting was being "handled" (Fields of Gold is one of my all-time favourite songs :() thanks to this thread. Lately I've had Moon Over Bourbon Street running through my head so I thought I'd post the lyrics here.

There's a moon over Bourbon Street tonight
I see faces as they pass beneath the pale lamplight
I've no choice but to follow that call
The bright lights, the people, and the moon and all
I pray everyday to be strong
For I know what I do must be wrong
Oh you'll never see my shade or hear the sound of my feet
While there's a moon over Bourbon Street

It was many years ago that I became what I am
I was trapped in this life like an innocent lamb
Now I can only show my face at noon
And you'll only see me walking by the light of the moon
The brim of my hat hides the eye of a beast
I've the face of a sinner but the hands of a priest
Oh you'll never see my shade or hear the sound of my feet
While there's a moon over Bourbon Street

She walks everyday through the streets of New Orleans
She's innocent and young from a family of means
I have stood many times outside her window at night
To struggle with my instinct in the pale moon light
How could I be this way when I pray to God above
I must love what I destroy and destroy the thing I love
Oh you'll never see my shade or hear the sound of my feet
While there's a moon over Bourbon Street

I am also gutted about Sting :rolleyes:

That song, though, I always reckoned it was about one of the characters from Anne Rice's "Interview with a Vampire" - Louis to be precise.

[starstuff]

I originally had it down as being just a vampire story-song too, but I'm not so sure now. I think there's a deeper meaning beneath the surface story.

[nowhere]

Manchurian Candidate: Ronan Farrow


Born as Satchel Ronan O'Sullivan Farrow, is the 21-year-old son of film director Woody Allen and actress Mia Farrow.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Ronan_Farrow_Headshot.jpg/180px-Ronan_Farrow_Headshot.jpg

Despite Farrow's prior critical coverage of the Obama administration's human rights policies, in 2009 reports circulated that he had been recruited for an undisclosed government appointment and was in the midst of a vetting process.

[emerald]

"Beyonce addresses her alter ego in the article as well saying "I don't need Sasha Fierce anymore, because I've grown, and now I'm able to merge the two". Interesting, isnt it?

[wakeuptime]

Michael_Mac, just out of curiosity, do you think these are the same ears?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole3.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole4.jpg

Peter O'Toole at Doppels (http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=158)

Or maybe you think someone is trying to start a "rumor" that Peter O'Toole was replaced? And if so, why would they do that, especially since very few people have even heard of this "conspiracy theory?"


Hermajesty, this is very disturbing. He doesn't look like the same person at all and those ears give it away. I had no idea O'Toole was replaced. But thinking about it, the young Peter had charm to burn and the older one has none.

Same thing that happened with Paul and Faul. The replacement is dull, charmless and has different ears. ;) Ears do not change like this from aging, no matter what shills claim.

Another thing about O'Toole --- wasn't he the one Trudie Styler had an affair with before she cornered Sting? Meaning O'Toole was likely already replaced by then and working for the CIA.

[wakeuptime]

When I heard Glover is now pushing Global warming as cause of the Haiti earthquake the first thing I thought is he's been controlled. As when "Jimmy Carter" says Americans don't want socialism because they hate black people (ie Obama).

Here is Glover saying Copenhagen should have passed the global warming scam.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


Maybe we should look into him. I found this picture in Dubai (one of the power centers) with a dazed looking Danny Glover.

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/12/Dubai%20Danny%20Glover%202.jpg


He could just be niave, but when someone comes out and so blatantly supports the system especially after global warming has been exposed as a scam, it makes me wonder.

[emerald]

He's a top wheel in the showbiz system, what would u expect?

[wakeuptime]

If he hasn't been replaced I'd expect integrity.

If he was replaced then I expect a robot which is what he appears to be.

[emerald]

As always, all possibilities are open, but personally I really dont believe he was replaced.

[lostworld]

I've been gutted since I realised Sting was being "handled" (Fields of Gold is one of my all-time favourite songs :() thanks to this thread. Lately I've had Moon Over Bourbon Street running through my head so I thought I'd post the lyrics here.


I originally had it down as being just a vampire story-song too, but I'm not so sure now. I think there's a deeper meaning beneath the surface story.

Hi Starstuff :)

I love Fields of gold and many other of Sting's songs too. It's a terrible tragedy what's happened to him (that Trudie Styler... :mad: )

I think there's a lot to find in Sting's lyrics if we ever researched it deeper...

[lostworld]

A while back on this thread someone told a story of how someone's family ad been spotted by friends, however the family hadn't been where the friends had seen them tho the friends were absolutely convinced they had seen this family. (I did a quick search but couldn't find it - lots of posts :p)

Anyhow something similar happened to me just before Xmas. I was getting off the train on my way to work and noticed a woman looking at me pretty intently. I just thought 'whatever' and ignored her, however she kept looking at me all sort of furtively as we walked the length of the platform so I looked straight at her and asked if there was a problem. She was totally freaked out as she thought I was her daughter who she had just left in the house eating breakfast :confused: She said she couldn't figure out how I had caught the train at the same time as being at home and also couldn't understand how I wasn't 'recognising' her!!!

I mean how could any mother not recognise their own daughter that close up!! :eek:

So anyway, thought I'd share that cos it has shown me first hand that people can have such close doubles out there to be used as replacements.

Love this thread :D

Hi Cheryl,
Thanks for sharing this, really fascinating.

It does remind me of that older post that you also refer too. I've tried to find it again but no luck, sorry.

Someone recommended this movie, the Broken (2008), that relates to this topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0nKZd9UxuI&feature=related


http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1166/thebrokenmovieposter.jpg

[lostworld]

Greetings to all!

This is an absolutely fascinating thread, and seems to have morphed into something much bigger that what might have been intended by the original poster. Now encompassing 'mind control', some strange symbolic language, rituals, as well as 'replacements' (human and synthetic). I do get the impression that there is something interesting here, but I also have a lot of questions, which will hopefully get some good discussion going.

For my first post, I'd like to alert you to something I came across the other day. This blog belongs to a alt/goth/supermodel named Apnea.


Hi the magician and welcome to Stepford :)

As the original poster/thread starter I have to say that I always wanted Stepford to have this range & popularity, I just didn't know if it was possible.
So this has by far exceeded my expectations. Which is great of course. :)

Great first post, that girl's blog is indeed disturbing.

[antiem]

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1166/thebrokenmovieposter.jpg
Interesting that the broken part of the head looks like a broken mirror - split personality. :)

[lauren_almighty]

I was having a nosy of Mel Gibson's IMDB profile when I noticed this quote: Hollywood is a factory. You have to realize that you are working in a factory and you're part of the mechanism. If you break down, you'll be replaced.
It might just be a metaphor but I thought of you guys when I saw it. :)

I used to have a mini crush on him about 8 years ago when he had the hot dad look going on but he seems to have aged quite fast.

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/123109_544_mel_gibson_86273237.jpg

I just found out that he is bi-polar too. I feel sorry for him because people seem to give him a hard time.

[hermajesty]

Hermajesty, this is very disturbing. He doesn't look like the same person at all and those ears give it away. I had no idea O'Toole was replaced. But thinking about it, the young Peter had charm to burn and the older one has none.
I was a little shocked, too, but then again, not really.

Same thing that happened with Paul and Faul. The replacement is dull, charmless and has different ears. ;) Ears do not change like this from aging, no matter what shills claim.

Paul McCharmley to 'MOST IRRITATING STAR' (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/mccartney-is-most-irritating-star_1068113)

Another thing about O'Toole --- wasn't he the one Trudie Styler had an affair with before she cornered Sting? Meaning O'Toole was likely already replaced by then and working for the CIA.
Now, that is interesting if Trudie was/is a handler like some people suspect... Of course, she might just be a beta-programmed sex slave, too :eek:

[jo_6]

http://http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole.jpg
http://http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole2.jpg


Hairline, forehead, eyebrows, eyebrow bone structure, ears, totally different...
And the same as Paul Mccartney, the original was...Sexy! I know an old man's not going to be sexy, but you would still carry some of that attractiveness. And with this guy, and Faul, its GONE.

[hermajesty]

And the same as Paul Mccartney, the original was...Sexy!

Absolutely! Girls thought Faul was ugly in "Strawberry Fields." (http://www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/dickclarka.mpg)

Definitely went from HOT to NOT :(

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo110/faulconandsnowjob/Paul_sff_faul.jpg

[lostworld]

http://http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole.jpg
http://http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo36/getsmartwakeup/PeterandFeterOtoole2.jpg


Hairline, forehead, eyebrows, eyebrow bone structure, ears, totally different...


Don't forget THE NOSE! Thats' what I react to the most.

It's said that he had not only one, but two nose jobs!! (possible cover for a replacement)
Not necessary for a man who's already attractive... :rolleyes:
Nowdays his nose is just too small and makes him look feminine.


The Long and the Short and the Tall was the name of the play in London's West End of which Katharine Hepburn discovered the young Irish stage actor Peter O'Toole in 1959. O'Toole had lived in the United Kingdom since before the Second World War.
The Great Kate told the 27-year-old O'Toole to get a nose job as she wanted him to play with her in Suddenly, Last Summer, which was to be shot in London.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1767160/peter_otoole_the_long_the_short_the.html?cat=40

Here it says that his first nose job was because of a sport accident:
Peter O'Toole had to have 2, one in the late '50s due to a sport accident and one in the early '60s to look more like T.E. Lawrence for "Lawrence of Arabia"
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_celebrities_have_had_nose_jobs

O'Toole's second RADA audition would see him take on GK Chesterton and Henry James. By now the brash confidence lent him by his status as a northern invader had worn thin. Now, so close to the big prize, he began to fret over the lisp he'd picked up when, playing rugby for the Navy against a Swedish police side, he'd had his nose and jaw broken and his tongue badly split. It might be, he thought, a therious thtumbling-block.
http://www.talktalk.co.uk/entertainment/film/biography/artist/peter-o-toole/biography/185?page=5


One thing the Freedland biography has is a picture of O'Toole's nose in it's original state (that I saw in the movie KIDNAPPED, too.) before the nose surgery. It was on the big side, but not at all a bad nose, and he still was a handsome fellow. What isn't mentioned in articles about O'Toole is that he had TWO nose jobs. You can tell from the photos in the Freedland book that O'Toole had a nose job that occured before he did THE DAY THEY ROBBED THE BANK OF ENGLAND (I haven't seen the movie itself). O'Toole's nose is different than his natural one here, but was still rather wider than the one he has now. It then got narrowed for LAWRENCE OF ARABIA. So O'Toole had TWO nose jobs.

I believe it's the Wapshott biography that says Sam Spiegel and David Lean insisted he get a (second) nose job so he would look more like T.E. Lawrence. I don't know that I believe that, since that's an awful lot to ask an actor to do for the sake of one movie. He did have the second nose job, but it was likely his own decision.

http://realitymouse.com/otoole/biopage.html

[emerald]

Soon there will be ALICES everywhere. This is another premiere, I dont recall any other movie to have been an inspiration for that at least:

http://www.makeherup.com/2010/01/19/makeup-inspired-by-alice-in-wonderland/

[emerald]

Should we expect a stepforded BROOKE MUELLER? MISCHA BARTON had the same "tooth" problem last year, hmmm....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1244886/Charlie-Sheens-estranged-wife-rushed-intensive-care-pneumonia.html

[emerald]

:eek:

"Pine Grove is a no-frills, 24-bedroom facility regarded as one of the world's best for tackling sexual problems.

But even at rock-bottom, Tiger is not abandoning all of his former life of privilege.

Whereas patients would normally share rooms and carry out domestic chores, the golfer has his own chalet, and has been excused from housework.

He is also receiving one-on-one treatment rather than the usual group therapy, it has been claimed.

Disgruntled fellow patients say that before he checked in he was allowed to renovate the chalet where he will spend the next month and he has a maid to clean it and do his chores.

On entering the 12-step treatment centre, Tiger would have had to sign an agreement to remain celibate.

Over the six-week course he will undergo psychiatric consultation, behavioural therapy, trauma work and 'relapse prevention counseling'.

He can also choose to take part in art classes, exercise and fitness regimes, shame reduction work, a spirituality group, a grief group and yoga."

[starstuff]

Has Peter Gabriel been covered yet? I was finding some links for the 80's thread and sat and watched the video for one of his songs I liked from that era - Big Time - and seriously it made me feel ill. I can't work out if it's a pisstake of people who go down that route, or a statement of what he was up to at the time.

Peter Gabriel Big Time - YouTube

Does anyone know anything about him? I've noticed that his song with Kate Bush, Don't Give Up, was covered by Alicia Keyes with Bono, and it seems Lady Gaga's covered it too, which is ringing alarm bells.

[wakeuptime]

Has Peter Gabriel been covered yet? I was finding some links for the 80's thread and sat and watched the video for one of his songs I liked from that era - Big Time - and seriously it made me feel ill. I can't work out if it's a pisstake of people who go down that route, or a statement of what he was up to at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0FBi5Rv1ho

Does anyone know anything about him? I've noticed that his song with Kate Bush, Don't Give Up, was covered by Alicia Keyes with Bono, and it seems Lady Gaga's covered it too, which is ringing alarm bells.

Please bring whatever you know about Peter Gabriel. Wasn't he with Genesis....another red flag IMO. I'm suspectng Phil Collins (also Genesis, isn't he?) is one of the bloodline Collins family.


A bit more on Danny Glover. I didn't say he was necessarily replaced (that was Emerald's assumption) but that I suspected he was MKed. He's certainly working with the group that wants to bring in a world communist goverment. Anyone pushing the global warming agenda after its been revealed by Climategate to be a scam is most likely working for the Agenda.

Here's Glover with communist leader Hugo Chavez.

http://guanabee.com/Glover_Chavez_5_30_07.jpg

And again, with Chavez in bloodline red. Gold sun symbols behind them.

http://www.capveterans.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/glover_and_chavez.jpg

An ambassador for Unicef.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/323174951_4c8344a3fc.jpg


Glover is helping push through the Agenda. Whether he's MKed or naive I can't say. But certainly the Elite want to use Hollywood stars to jam through political agendas as we know.

[maz15d]

I don't know anything much about Peter Gabriel's life but I do know he co-wrote the show OVO which was was first performed at the Millennium Dome in London, to an invited audience which included the Queen, Blair etc in London on Dec 31 1999...

the story very much fits the 'caring for the planet' agenda

The show tells the story of three stages of our evolution, through the lives of three generations of a family. It is the story of a family in transition, divided by internal conflict and by the great changes going on around them. It is also a story of forbidden love.

A father who loves the earth and everything that grows from it finds a way to work with nature, even though he only knows one way - his way. The mother, who sits at her loom and sees the future emerging in the patterns she weaves, is unable to reconcile her feuding family and eventually turns against her own son.

The son, with a passion for machines, starts a revolution, which was designed to liberate his people, but ends up enslaving them. And the daughter, whose quiet and enchanted childhood ends when she falls in love with one of the mysterious skypeople, an outsider, eventually defies both her father and brother for the Skyboy's love. The Skyboy turns from romeo to rebel, as he watches his people being excluded and oppressed. Their baby, OVO, born in the time of the flood, is sent in a floating nest that sails the sky, into an uncertain future.

more information can be found at

http://www.petergabriel.com/features/Ovo_and_The_Millennium_Show/ (http://www.petergabriel.com/features/Ovo_and_The_Millennium_Show/)

[noctua]

Sting was at Lady Gaga's gig last night. Showing off his newly shaved face.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/21/article-0-07F28028000005DC-821_468x713.jpg

[mara]

This thread is scary. I used to really like some of them like Eddy Murphy.
But reading this I realized why he's not funny anymore...Because he's not him self anymore :rolleyes: How sad. Do you think they killed them? Poor Eddie, he really had great sense of humor.

[pound]

This thread is scary. I used to really like some of them like Eddy Murphy.
But reading this I realized why he's not funny anymore...Because he's not him self anymore :rolleyes: How sad. Do you think they killed them? Poor Eddie, he really had great sense of humor.


Im kind of curious to know myself what exactly 'they' did to the real Eddie Murphy? Is it possible that they simply just killed him and replaced him?...................That is truly cold blooded if they did.

[mara]

I can't not imagine that either :( 'They' can't kill and replace somebody just like that...Maybe they sent him somewhere...I don't know.

[antiem]

Im kind of curious to know myself what exactly 'they' did to the real Eddie Murphy? Is it possible that they simply just killed him and replaced him?...................That is truly cold blooded if they did.

I can't not imagine that either :( 'They' can't kill and replace somebody just like that...Maybe they sent him somewhere...I don't know.
Imagine them bombing countries for no real reason except profit, poison our childrens bodies and minds, then you're getting there. :(

[mara]

Imagine them bombing countries for no real reason except profit, poison our childrens bodies and minds, then you're getting there. :(

I don't have to imagine bombing, because I've been bombed for 3 months.

[pound]

Imagine them bombing countries for no real reason except profit, poison our childrens bodies and minds, then you're getting there. :(

Point taken. I suspect the world is 'crueller' in more ways than one.

[schaff]

Thinking Adam sandler is lookin a lot like Bob dylan these days

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/99/415x0/99493_seth-rogen-and-adam-sandler-in-funny-people.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0017M8YRG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[antiem]

I don't have to imagine bombing, because I've been bombed for 3 months.
I'm sorry to hear that! I didn't want to trigger anything or mean any disrespect, I didn't know where you lived. :(

All my love, Antiem

[wyndham]

http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/files/2010/01/Woods_PostCover.jpg

[mara]

I'm sorry to hear that! I didn't want to trigger anything or mean any disrespect, I didn't know where you lived. :(

All my love, Antiem

Oh, don't worry, how could you know :) And thanx fo love :)
But, anyway, I'm very disturbed to hear that Eddie whom I really liked is killed and replaced. And that must be the thing that trigger something in me.

I could have doubted about Paul and Faul because I never really cared about the Beatles, but the changes with Eddie are so obvious.

No sense of humor, and very different movie style.
Whiter skin, higher voice, thinner lips, more oval cranium/skull, longer eye distance and so...

[hermajesty]

Im kind of curious to know myself what exactly 'they' did to the real Eddie Murphy? Is it possible that they simply just killed him and replaced him?...................That is truly cold blooded if they did.

It's impossible to know exactly what happened to Eddie, but he was definitely replaced. "They" are definitely capable of killing & replacing someone. And yes, "they" are that cold-blooded & evil.

[lostworld]

It's impossible to know exactly what happened to Eddie, but he was definitely replaced. "They" are definitely capable of killing & replacing someone. And yes, "they" are that cold-blooded & evil.

I agree. They are capable of anything IMO.
They have the technology and lack the empathy...

Just look at all the deaths in Hollywood and the entertainment industry every year. Not all of them are "accidents" or "drug overdoses"... Not by far.
More like ritualistic sacrifices. :(

[hannah50]

Thinking Adam sandler is lookin a lot like Bob dylan these days

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/99/415x0/99493_seth-rogen-and-adam-sandler-in-funny-people.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0017M8YRG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I see what you're trying to show there.

IMHO, I figuered Adam for a tool right out of his career 'gate'. He lacks true talent, and has 0 charisma. All his bits on SNL were obnoxious as hell. I always figuered he had an "in" in the industry, somewhere.

[hermajesty]

IMHO, I figuered Adam for a tool right out of his career 'gate'. He lacks true talent, and has 0 charisma. All his bits on SNL were obnoxious as hell. I always figuered he had an "in" in the industry, somewhere.

I was thinking the exact same thing about Ben Stiller last night. IMO, he has nothing... except connections :rolleyes:

[sodi]

What does the mannequin represent in the Illuminati/masonic images ?

[hermajesty]

What does the mannequin represent in the Illuminati/masonic images ?

It may represent a "doll" like in the show, "Dollhouse." The "doll" is the vessel (the body) into which a mind is implanted.

[hermajesty]

This is a very interesting post from "sabrina" at Doppels:


I couldn't tell you how, but I can share some stories of my own experiences with non-humans. I live in NYC and there are many here, mainly because its easy for them to blend in with so many people (and unusual or 'crazy' people) walking around.

It is my belief that synthetic humans have already been tested on the populations of large cities.

I have perceived on several occasions people who do not look, feel or act human in NY, but in all other respects are perfectly 'normal'. That means: they're not acting 'crazy', not dressed strangely, not doing anything that would attract attention.. and yet, there's something ...different about them.

Yes, the eyes are often a giveaway. Many times they appear glassy and staring. Emotionless, lacking a spark behind the orbit. Then too, the skin is of an indescribable texture..

The ones I've seen have unusually smooth, poreless skin. Sometimes there is an odd large fold at the base of the neck, or the base of the leg where the leg connects to the foot, despite the youthful appearance of the person in question.

I was unpleasantly surprised sitting in Central Park on 07/07/07 to see a teenaged girl walking very oddly down a path with her friend. Her shuffling gait caught my attention, but what really surprised me was that same fold I've mentioned, at the base of her leg right around the ankle. On this particular summer day, there were a large number of tourists in Manhattan who gave off a very unusual...vibe. The significance of the date also did not escape my attention...

http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=philosci&thread=160&page=2

[the seeker]

Yes, it is true, I am a paid disinformation agent for the Obama administration.

I am here to inform you that you have figured it all out. You have discovered... aging.




Like I said, batshit crazy. :D

[emerald]

One of DREA DE MATTEO's tattos...:D

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5066/gallerymain0121dreabiki.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/gallerymain0121dreabiki.jpg/)

And her uncanny ressemblance to PORTIA DE ROSSI...

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8633/dreadematteo.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/dreadematteo.jpg/)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9983/portiaderossi002.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/portiaderossi002.jpg/)

[mara]

Maybe, they are somewhere locked, waiting for us to save them :)
Hold on Eddie, we are coming to u soon :)

[wakeuptime]

I was thinking the exact same thing about Ben Stiller last night. IMO, he has nothing... except connections :rolleyes:

How about Clint Eastwood?

No acting talent. Started off in Italian spaghetti westerns. :rolleyes:

http://blogs.allocine.fr/blogsdatas/mdata/1/8/4/Z20050915014319810894481/img/clint_eastwood.jpg

Who couldn't have played blank-faced Dirty Harry? I know a hundred student actors who could out-act Eastwood any day.

http://pistonsnationblog.com/images/clint-eastwood.JPG

Yet he's one of the Hollywood kings (along with Spielberg). A great director? Hardly. Ths guy is one serious insider IMO.

I met him once in Hollywood and he's very tall. Same is true of John Cusack and Tim Robbins. Icke has talked about the giant race, those from the ruling class. These guys are from that group.

http://www.dsn.asso.fr/images/cinema/zoom/eastwood.jpg

[emerald]

How about Clint Eastwood?

No acting talent. Started off in Italian spaghetti westerns. :rolleyes:

http://blogs.allocine.fr/blogsdatas/mdata/1/8/4/Z20050915014319810894481/img/clint_eastwood.jpg

Who couldn't have played blank-faced Dirty Harry? I know a hundred student actors who could out-act Eastwood any day.

http://pistonsnationblog.com/images/clint-eastwood.JPG

Yet he's one of the Hollywood kings (along with Spielberg). A great director? Hardly. Ths guy is one serious insider IMO.

I met him once in Hollywood and he's very tall. Same is true of John Cusack and Tim Robbins. Icke has talked about the giant race, those from the ruling class. These guys are from that group.

http://www.dsn.asso.fr/images/cinema/zoom/eastwood.jpg

This mite be ur opinion (and others of course) but to say that EASTWOOD has no talent, sorry... Insider, lol? Who is "clean" in Hollywood, basically speaking? Not even the kids, especially them. And the ruling class being giants is completely bollocks. As if all Icke says would be a golden rule. Personally I find this foolish (my paternal cousins - all boys- are over 6.1 anyway, a female neibor of mine and all her family - on the maternal line - are all over 6.1, I always called them a family of Amazons:D)

[starstuff]

http://blogs.allocine.fr/blogsdatas/mdata/1/8/4/Z20050915014319810894481/img/clint_eastwood.jpg

He reminds me of Hugh Jackman so much there. It's taken me ages to find pics with the two of them in a similar enough pose to make a fair comparison (Eastwood is usually grim and squinty whereas Jackman's photos are more open), but they really are very similar. Jackman left, Eastwood right:

http://theworldaccordingtoasinglemom.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/hugh-jackman-12.jpghttp://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/clint-eastwood-n1.jpg

[emerald]

Yes, the similarity to JACKMAN was mentioned here before, thats true...

[starstuff]

It was? Meh, sorry about that. I can't keep track of them all, there's far too many doubles/plastics/sudden personality changes among the "celebs" for me to know who's been covered and who hasn't in this mammoth thread. :D I don't really have any useful info to add so I should probably keep my similarity observations to myself and leave posting in this thread to those who can make decent contributions, heh.

[emerald]

It was? Meh, sorry about that. I can't keep track of them all, there's far too many doubles/plastics/sudden personality changes among the "celebs" for me to know who's been covered and who hasn't in this mammoth thread. :D I don't really have any useful info to add so I should probably keep my similarity observations to myself and leave posting in this thread to those who can make decent contributions, heh.

:D Thats ok, dont worry, theres no sugar!

[pert]

I'm watching an item on This Morning about a girl who claims her resmeblance to Leona Lewis is ruining her life.

There is a theory that the current George Micheal is a duplicate, but why would he be replaced? The most dangerous thing he's ever done is say that it's fun being on the dole in "Wham Rap"

[emerald]

I'm watching an item on This Morning about a girl who claims her resmeblance to Leona Lewis is ruining her life.

There is a theory that the current George Micheal is a duplicate, but why would he be replaced? The most dangerous thing he's ever done is say that it's fun being on the dole in "Wham Rap"

I think u should read this:

http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=53

[lostworld]

Yes, the similarity to JACKMAN was mentioned here before, thats true...

I haven't seen that. And I don't find it when I search their names either.

Especially, I don't think we've seen a picture comparison before.

It was? Meh, sorry about that. I can't keep track of them all, there's far too many doubles/plastics/sudden personality changes among the "celebs" for me to know who's been covered and who hasn't in this mammoth thread. :D I don't really have any useful info to add so I should probably keep my similarity observations to myself and leave posting in this thread to those who can make decent contributions, heh.

Starstuff, your picture comparison was great! :)
So keep posting...

[emerald]

GIRLS ALOUD's CHERYL COLE&NATALIE PORTMAN:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4192/article117637304c72cdc0.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=article117637304c72cdc0.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8148/natalieportman.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=natalieportman.jpg)

GRETA CAVAZZONI vs. LINDA EVANGELISTA:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1545/greta102.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greta102.jpg)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9844/73987520.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=73987520.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7199/images99f.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=images99f.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5854/imagesoo.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagesoo.jpg)


HUGH JACKMAN vs. CLINT EASTWOOD:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2118/images9t.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=images9t.jpg)

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6080/imagesi.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagesi.jpg)

I mentioned them here, EASTWOOD&JACKMAN too. The pics are too small unfortunately. :)

[edward123]

Thinking Adam sandler is lookin a lot like Bob dylan these days

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/99/415x0/99493_seth-rogen-and-adam-sandler-in-funny-people.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0017M8YRG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

There is definately an uncanny resembalance.

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/adam-sandler-totally-looks-like-bob-dylan.jpg

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/17/128714671503945957.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3vUDUo02AAs/RflaxVBHbOI/AAAAAAAAATM/otxykoPTiLU/s400/bobadam1.jpg

[wakeuptime]

He reminds me of Hugh Jackman so much there. It's taken me ages to find pics with the two of them in a similar enough pose to make a fair comparison (Eastwood is usually grim and squinty whereas Jackman's photos are more open), but they really are very similar. Jackman left, Eastwood right:

http://theworldaccordingtoasinglemom.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/hugh-jackman-12.jpghttp://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/clint-eastwood-n1.jpg

Excellent find, Starstuff!

Never occured to me Jackman resembles the young Eastwood but perhaps we've got some more DNA sharing.

Good eye. Keep posting. Don't listen to the nay sayers. ;)

[antiem]

He reminds me of Hugh Jackman so much there. It's taken me ages to find pics with the two of them in a similar enough pose to make a fair comparison (Eastwood is usually grim and squinty whereas Jackman's photos are more open), but they really are very similar. Jackman left, Eastwood right:

http://theworldaccordingtoasinglemom.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/hugh-jackman-12.jpghttp://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/clint-eastwood-n1.jpg
:eek: WOW, indeed! What an eye you had there!
For some reason those pictures reminded me of Luke Perry (it's probably just the hair style... :o), and I tried to find a pic with him smiling but they're REALLY rare.... except those two:
http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2/1/22/antiem/f_1vn9mavr23hm_7043b3e.jpg (http://imagefra.me/)
http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/2/1/22/antiem/f_hh566ydlbm_9c438c7.jpg (http://imagefra.me/)

[noctua]

Great eye for that photo-comparison between Jackman and Eastwood.

I am not very fond of Eastwood. He doesn't have the greatest reputation, although I am sure he has mellowed now that he is much older.

Johnathan Last writes in the Wall Street Journal 8/16/02: Patrick McGilligan's "Clint" (St. Martin's, 612 pages, $35) is the second major biography of Mr. Eastwood, and it spends a good deal of its energy attempting to refute the first, Richard Schickle's authorized, well-sourced and adoring "Clint Eastwood" (1996). Mr. McGilligan's book, which is unauthorized, refers to the Schickle dozens of times -- and nastily. It is clearly meant to take Mr. Eastwood down a few pegs.

Beginning as a contract player for Universal, Eastwood appeared for years in films like "Tarantula!" He became known with the TV series "Rawhide." In 1964, he starred in Sergio Leone's "A Fistful of Dollars."

An accomplished director, Eastwood's films almost always come in on budget and do well at the box office. The screenwriter William Goldman says Eastwood is the most durable movie star in the history of film.

McGilligan claims Eastwood beat his first wife. He says Eastwood went gay for pay to further his career. He intimates that Mr. Eastwood's vanity caused the death of a crew member during the filming of "The Eiger Sanction."

McGillan claims that Mr. Eastwood suffers from a "Don Juanism," that he cheated on his wife and cheated on the women he was cheating on his wife with. "Clint" spends page after page detailing affairs and rendezvous.

Much of McGillan's material that is noted in "Clint" is based on the testimony of actress Sondra Locke, with whom Mr. Eastwood had a long-standing affair that ended badly. She later wrote "The Good, the Bad and the Very Ugly."

[the_mighty_tron]

This thread is scary. I used to really like some of them like Eddy Murphy.
But reading this I realized why he's not funny anymore...Because he's not him self anymore :rolleyes: How sad. Do you think they killed them? Poor Eddie, he really had great sense of humor.

From what I understand, Eddie Murphy was too....RAW and had to be tamed immediately.:(

http://thodah.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/eddiemurphy-raw.jpg

[cheryl]

[QUOTE=lostworld;1058568002]Hi Cheryl,

Someone recommended this movie, the Broken (2008), that relates to this topic:

that's really freaky .... but you get the sensation it's just waiting to happen ... mmm could say more but I would sound flaky so will leave it for now. It seems with all this stuff happening that 'reality' is really such a fragile thing .... :(

[cheryl]

I'm watching an item on This Morning about a girl who claims her resmeblance to Leona Lewis is ruining her life.

There is a theory that the current George Micheal is a duplicate, but why would he be replaced? The most dangerous thing he's ever done is say that it's fun being on the dole in "Wham Rap"

lmao :D

[hermajesty]

Maybe, they are somewhere locked, waiting for us to save them :)
Hold on Eddie, we are coming to u soon :)

This supposedly did happen to Howard Hughes - that he was kidnapped by Onassis & held captive on the island of Skorpios while Hughes' own double became Foward Fughes. This was from an article by Springmeier/Wheeler at http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/onassis.htm.

It is nice to think some of these people are still alive somewhere, but I doubt it. It seems like it would be risky (& expensive) to keep them around. Once the victims' DNA was sourced & minds were copied, I bet they're disposed of. But you never know, I guess.

[hermajesty]

I don't really have any useful info to add so I should probably keep my similarity observations to myself and leave posting in this thread to those who can make decent contributions, heh.

No, don't say that. That's not true. Your contributions are welcome, as far as i'm concerned! :)

[sm1973]

No, don't say that. That's not true. Your contributions are welcome, as far as i'm concerned! :)

This is a brilliant thread, I wish there were more hours in the day to keep up with it!

[emerald]

"Tiger Woods Rehab Photo 'A PR Nightmare'

A new paparazzi image of Tiger has surfaced (see it on RadarOnline), potentially ruining his handler's plan to release a carefully staged photograph of Tiger with his wife and children looking happy together."At the moment it's all about regaining control of the golfer's image," an insider tells me. "The plan was to let an appropriate time pass and then issue one photograph wide to everyone in the media showing the family back together."

"This was NOT the first picture of Tiger his handlers wanted the world to see. This is another PR nightmare for him," my source says.

In the paparazzi photo, Tiger is seen looking at the camera, holding a cup and covering his head with a hooded sweatshirt. It's the first photo of the golf great since his Thanksgiving day car wreck that led to his infidelity scandal. He's now reportedly in a Mississippi sex addiction clinic, according to Radar. Details From Inside the Clinic on Hollywood Life >>>

Positioning a photo for publicity reasons is nothing new in the celebrity world, or Tiger's world. After the birth of his first child, Tiger released a photograph of the boy and proud parents to the entire world's media for free rather than selling his baby pictures to the highest bidder. After all, a picture is worth a thousand words -- or in Tiger's case, many millions!

But just how much could this new Tiger photo have been worth? David Leigh of Splash News, which sells photographs to tabloid and mainstream media companies, said in December: "An exclusive image of [Woods] could be worth a quarter of a million dollars."

"When he goes somewhere he goes somewhere to disappear. He is a very public figure and he knows what fame is and if he wanted his picture taken it would have been taken by now," said Peter Grossman, News Photo Editor for US Weekly magazine.

The rehab photo is just the latest blow to the downward spiral that has become Tiger's post-scandal publicity campaign.

Thanks to the the car crash and subsequent sex scandal, Woods has seen his reputation tarnished in a way that few would have ever thought was possible pre-Thanksgiving. His image was always one of a quiet, family-oriented sports star who brands like Cadillac, Nike and many others used as their spokesperson. Since the mess began, Woods has been dropped by several sponsors, put his golf career on hold, and perhaps even more important than all of those, suffered a blow in the court of public opinion that may take years to overcome.

[emerald]

Did u know that?

"TAYLOR SWIFT gets "creative"...:eek::eek::eek:

When I first read through Taylor Swift's quotes about what she is doing to her new Nashville home, I thought she was joking. Then I re-read the quotes... and I think she is serious!

Listen to this:

“It's going to be my fantasy world. There's a pond in the living room... The pond is a moat around the fireplace and may possibly have koi fish in it.”

“You step on a stepping stone in the pond in order to get on a spiral staircase, which takes you up to the human-sized bird cage observatory. They’re delivering a human-size birdcage, which I’ll put a brass telescope in. The ceiling of my living room is painted like the night sky.”

I still can't figure this one out. Is Taylor really doing this? Or is this a joke? Can you imagine ordering a human-sized birdcage on the phone?"

[emerald]

LILY ALLEN, huge butterfly&leppard print pants...

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6630/37065pcnlilyallen14.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/i/37065pcnlilyallen14.jpg/)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2615/postimage0122lilyallenc.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/i/postimage0122lilyallenc.jpg/)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3341/gallerymain0122lilyalle.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/gallerymain0122lilyalle.jpg/)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3341/gallerymain0122lilyalle.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/gallerymain0122lilyalle.jpg/)

MADONNA for a new D&G ad

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8486/12641604215391264165720.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/12641604215391264165720.jpg/)

[troubled]

From what I understand, Eddie Murphy was too....RAW and had to be tamed immediately.:(

http://thodah.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/eddiemurphy-raw.jpg
remember when eddie used to laugh

http://www.livevideo.com/video/F67BCB8D1BC04B0BAA4730A0B6D213E9/eddie-murphy-james-brown-s-c.aspx

[emerald]

ANASTASSIJA MAKARENKO, MICKEY ROURKE's "gift from heaven" (rather a gift from "them", but whatever...)

"Mickey Rourke Calls His Girlfriend a 'Gift From Heaven'

"A year after his emotional comeback performance earned him a Golden Globe for The Wrestler, Mickey Rourke was once again on cloud nine at this year's show, thanks to the new love he squired down the red carpet.

Rourke's girlfriend – who has widely been misidentified on the Internet – is Russian-born model Anastassija Makarenko, Rourke reveals exclusively to PEOPLE. "She's a gift from heaven," says the actor, 57, who seemed smitten as he kept a tight grip the stunning blonde throughout the evening.

"Obviously she's a very beautiful woman," says Rourke. "But she's got the biggest heart, she's got a great family, she's really close to her mother and father – they're great people."

The pair, who both live in New York and met at a photo shoot, have been together about six months. But it's already serious: Rourke recently gave Makarenko a Pomeranian (named Tango), and in December he traveled to Germany to meet her parents.

Though the consummate on-screen tough guy admits he was nervous, "They loved him," says Makarenko, adding, "He's the most beautiful man in the world, he's a sweetheart, and the best boyfriend."

Rourke, whose upcoming projects include Iron Man 2 and Passion Play with Megan Fox, wouldn't comment on whether he and Makarenko are – or will become – engaged. All he would say is: "I wouldn't trade her in for 20 Academy Awards."




http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5428/mickeyrourke240.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/mickeyrourke240.jpg/)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1827/3694144156.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/3694144156.jpg/)

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9569/3694144157.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/3694144157.jpg/)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1720/3694148334.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/3694148334.jpg/)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6889/3694148335.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/i/3694148335.jpg/)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2120/000000077830anastassija.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/000000077830anastassija.jpg/)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9793/000000141596anastassija.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/000000141596anastassija.jpg/)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1337/000000141597anastassija.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/000000141597anastassija.jpg/)

[emerald]

remember when eddie used to laugh

http://www.livevideo.com/video/F67BCB8D1BC04B0BAA4730A0B6D213E9/eddie-murphy-james-brown-s-c.aspx

Just last nite I watched again BH COP I. True, EDDIE was smart, funny with a capital "F", gifted for music too. All qualities requested for an ARTIST. His imposter lacks all of these.

[wakeuptime]

This is a brilliant thread, I wish there were more hours in the day to keep up with it!

I know exactly what you mean. When I first discovered it, I spent hours per day pouring over past posts until I was up to date. Its definately worth reading from the beginning if you haven't done so.

The first forty pages are essential.

Welcome!

[mara]

From what I understand, Eddie Murphy was too....RAW and had to be tamed immediately.:(

http://thodah.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/eddiemurphy-raw.jpg
:(
This supposedly did happen to Howard Hughes - that he was kidnapped by Onassis & held captive on the island of Skorpios while Hughes' own double became Foward Fughes. This was from an article by Springmeier/Wheeler at http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/onassis.htm.

It is nice to think some of these people are still alive somewhere, but I doubt it. It seems like it would be risky (& expensive) to keep them around. Once the victims' DNA was sourced & minds were copied, I bet they're disposed of. But you never know, I guess.

I agree with you. Why would they complicate the situation when they can simply kill him (and many others). But yet...

[lostworld]

This is a brilliant thread, I wish there were more hours in the day to keep up with it!

Thanks sm1973, I'm glad you enjoy the thread.

Welcome to Stepford! :)

[treehugger]

She didn't approach me - I approached her because there was obviously something up,and when I asked she told me in a disbelieving but straightforward way - anyway not gonna keep on making this point, the story is what it is.

Yes wakeuptime I've also experienced people always thinking they've met me before, to an absolutely ridiculous degree before - no matter where I went someone would approach me. It hasn't happened in ages now though, apart from the train incident, and it is disconcerting. :)

that is quite bizarre! Why do you think this happened? Do you think maybe theres a cloned double of you out, or that its just someone that looks a lot like you? Because I can't see why they would make clones of ordinary people...

[edward123]

wrong post, sorry

[hermajesty]

True, EDDIE was smart, funny with a capital "F", gifted for music too. All qualities requested for an ARTIST. His imposter lacks all of these.

Eddie was a comedy genius, IMO. It breaks my heart that we lost him. Eddie had 2 movies of just his stand-up act (Delirious & Raw). The imposter doesn't even do stand-up - b/c he's not funny! :rolleyes:

Here's Eddie's Doppels thread:
http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=39

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Beatlesagain/Eddie-Murphy-Party-All-The-Tim-2938.jpghttp://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/eddie-murphy-as-donkey-in-shrek-the-third1.jpg

[mara]

That is great thread about Eddie.
I remember watching some of his latest movies and before knowing anything about doubles I had strange feeling that something is wrong. Besides from not being funny anymore, his humor became mean, offensive and dark. He was making fun of fat people, black people or anybody else. And he was irritating.
And when I read this thread it really struck me.
I remember real Eddie and some of his movies like Coming to America or Golden Child. I could watch them hundred times...

[the_mighty_tron]

I wonder how does it feel to be someones double/stand-in? Do these imposters ever get tired of being someone else there whole lives? How much do these doubles get paid?? lol

[emerald]

DOLLY PARTON, a "perfect" doll, Southern Belle, prototype of Stepford wife. Shes also discussed on doppelsforum, IMO its much more about her appearance than surgery, I mean there are more DOLLIES. They didnt named that sheep DOLLY for no reason or to "honor" her.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4435/6a00d8341ca51d53ef00e55.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/6a00d8341ca51d53ef00e55.jpg/)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5420/blueridgemountainboy.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/blueridgemountainboy.jpg/)

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6995/dollyparton5288071.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/dollyparton5288071.jpg/)

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/425/dollypartonimagine.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/dollypartonimagine.jpg/)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2514/dollypartonnov06.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/dollypartonnov06.jpg/)

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5438/dollydollydolly.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/dollydollydolly.jpg/)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6194/dollypretender.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/dollypretender.jpg/)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1171/forgodandcountrycover.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/forgodandcountrycover.jpg/)