Stepford wives

[wildhorse]

George Michael in carcrash!

Oh dear, poor George is in trouble again.
Are they trying to take him out or is it his programming that's causing all this?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3334/georgemichael460.jpg

George Michael was arrested in the early hours of yesterday morning after his car collided with another vehicle.
He was questioned by police on suspicion of driving under the influence of drink or drugs, and was later released without charge.

The 46-year-old singer, who had just completed a two-year driving ban, was held after his silver Land Rover hit a lorry on the A34 in Berkshire at around 1am.

The lorry driver, Laurie Rowe, told the Daily Mail: "He seemed completely disorientated, like he had no idea what was going on.
He looked totally dazed and even tried to climb into the cab of my lorry. He kept saying he was worried he would go to jail."

Rowe, from Scotland, said he saw the silver 4x4 weaving from one side of the road to the other in his rear view mirror seconds before the crash, adding that the impact was so great he feared the driver was dead.

"He hit me so hard that it knocked my rear axle two feet up in the air," he said. "When I stopped the lorry and got out to see what had happened, I didn't think he would have survived."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/aug/15/george-michael-arrest-driving

yeah i seen this...:eek:

if george had been drinking or had drugs, they wudda charged him no questions

so he musta been squeaky clean or even under legal limit.

while anyone who has been shunted in aserious car crash is disorientated, in todays "celebrity death a week" thats going on, its more than possible his number was 'up'. Guess it musta been the slowed down Kylie vid that did it :rolleyes:

the Britney Circus prelude was disturbing to watch. Not only was it laughing like 'satan' in it, but the whole language in it whilst little girl fans were no doubt in the audience was totally inappropriate! Going on about freaks (us & britney) It also mentioned bout britney being Mistress of Ceremonies or summit - my gut translated - 'Madonna's rule is over'. This would explain her hardly ever looking good in press both physically and characterwise. Already had MJ, so wouldn't suprise me if George Micheal and Madonna croaked it - yeah lets take out the 80's, thats so yester-sabbath....

so sick n tired of seeing pretty natural fresh girls end up blond and vacant

I like critique, but when its done with respect and not 4 pages of "yeah but..."

anyway...on with the thread...still luvvin it!

[architectorion]

Most young women are naturally drawn to butterflies for the feelings that viewing them inspires, for the same reasons most young men respond to trains with an awe and wonder little girls rarely duplicate. Butterflies may well be a symbol used in brainwashing, but I doubt even 1/10th the examples here are anything other than marketing. I worked in marketing for years and years, and my husband still works in television, I can promise you that: stars, butterflies, anything resembling a butterfly or lace and moons/suns are adored by women. I worked on a children's program at channel 15 in Louisville, KY, USA in the mid-90s and this stuff is not shown to children because they have been brainwashed, it is used repeatedly because of the fact it makes for good ratings. Women respond to beautiful, delicate things, men love machines, children like the fantasy of Alice in Wonderland-type escapes.

It's almost like by saying butterflies are used in brainwashing has brainwashed us. Now when you see butterflies, you have been "triggered" to remember what horrible things others may or may not have gone through being brainwashed. It's very sad.

[nihil]

Yes. All the children of the west like Alice of OZ .

So Iraqi children soon... the beautifulness of a NWO.

Just try to open your eyes and make your brain alive :

Frank Baum did write that boring thing 110 Years ago .

... Still we all love OZ? Fantasy is finally dead on human race?

[amethyst]

You think that indicates someone 'got to her' after she was already famous? I'm sure many, many young Christian women would have no problem being in Playboy. Anyway, please read my words carefully. I am not saying she or anyone in particular is not programmed. I am saying mentally healthy adults being taken and changed into someone else through programming is speculation.

I think she possibly could have been "got to" way before "The Hills"

They always seem to be introduced this way and pop up out of no where. Just a pattern I've noticed.....said sadly, from another "Heidi'.

[lostworld]

yeah i seen this...:eek:

if george had been drinking or had drugs, they wudda charged him no questions

so he musta been squeaky clean or even under legal limit.

Hi Wildhorse :)
Yes, it's very strange the whole thing... He rearended the lorry at very high speed, seems like a very strange thing to do unless you're under the influence of something... (incl. programming)

while anyone who has been shunted in aserious car crash is disorientated, in todays "celebrity death a week" thats going on, its more than possible his number was 'up'.

Yes, of course anyone involved in a carcrash would be shocked or disoriented. But it seems to be more to it. George seems almost afraid, and knowing what we know about George from earlier posts, this makes perfect sense... (him talking about conspiracies, everybody is out to get George etc = programming breaking down).
I found some additional info:

Moreover, Rowe says, the star made several attempts to convince him not to call the police to report the crash, saying he would be sent to jail – and thus completely disregarding the serious damage done to his car. At one point, Rowe tells the British media, Michael even attempted to get inside the cabin of the lorry to drive away from the scene before police arrived.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Disoriented-George-Michael-Arrested-After-Car-Crash-119335.shtml


the Britney Circus prelude was disturbing to watch. Not only was it laughing like 'satan' in it, but the whole language in it whilst little girl fans were no doubt in the audience was totally inappropriate!

Yeah, I saw that post/video too. Very disturbing indeed. Like you say, we have to remember that there are many little girls in that audience!
Really sick :(

anyway...on with the thread...still luvvin it!

:)

[amethyst]

Madonna and Angelina has the same symptom regarding those weird veines etc. This could very well be due to HGH or some other drug. It can also has something to do with them perhaps being clones/syntethics (and whatever chemicals that keep them function then...)



What Is Brooke Shields's Secret to Being Fit?
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20295177,00.html

Watch out, Wonder Woman. Brooke Shields may give you a run for your money.

"I'm a closet superhero," the 44-year-old super-fit mother of two told PEOPLE with a chuckle when asked how she stays in such killer shape. Shields's real secret: She does a combination of yoga and spinning – and stays away from the dumbbells so she doesn't bulk up.

"It's not safe for me to work with weights at the moment because I just get a bit ... I respond quickly," she explained at a Manhattan launch party for the BlackBerry Tour smartphone from Sprint.


http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7021/brookeshieldsisfurious.jpg

It's not safe for me to work with weights at the moment because I just get a bit ... I respond quickly,"

What is that supposed to mean? That she bulks up quickly?

Wonder if she's alluding to testosterone/growth hormone use?- which someone else said helps develope muscles sooner than if done the conventional way.

[lostworld]

Audrina Partridge (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrina_Patridge) synthetic? Her eyes are always slightly rolled up in her head...

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/audrina-pics.jpg


She could very well be. :eek:

I heard her eyes had been fixed though. Don't know if it's true. But her eyes look more focused now (in those pics I've seen).

Awfulplasticsurgery.com writes about it:
http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/category/audrina-patridge/


Before and after
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3689/audrinaeyes1.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4619/audrinaeyes2.jpg

[lostworld]

What is that supposed to mean? That she bulks up quickly?

Wonder if she's alluding to testosterone/growth hormone use?- which someone else said helps develope muscles sooner than if done the conventional way.

Yes, I read this article a while ago and when this discussion about HGH came up I connected the dots... :rolleyes:

It could very well indicate that she's on something.

[lostworld]

Perhaps they don't actually clone the said celebrities.

Perhaps certain celebrities who have come close to exposing a few things "they" didn't want anyone to know about, were not cloned, but instead threatened and taken into some 1984 "Room 101" scenario, where they were effectively broken down.

Maybe thats why some clebrities have that "lifeless" look in their eyes and smile.

It could also be, that some celebs, while have seen too many disturbing things and met some truly evil and peverse people. Maybe thats why the spark has gone in their eye.

Who knows.

Oh definately.
That lifeless look can be due to cloning/lack of soul but also due to mind control. Many mind control victims also have a certain stare, we've posted about this earlier in the thread.

All in all: people are both being mind controlled and replaced.

[emerald]

George Michael in carcrash!

Oh dear, poor George is in trouble again.
Are they trying to take him out or is it his programming that's causing all this?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3334/georgemichael460.jpg

George Michael was arrested in the early hours of yesterday morning after his car collided with another vehicle.
He was questioned by police on suspicion of driving under the influence of drink or drugs, and was later released without charge.

The 46-year-old singer, who had just completed a two-year driving ban, was held after his silver Land Rover hit a lorry on the A34 in Berkshire at around 1am.

The lorry driver, Laurie Rowe, told the Daily Mail: "He seemed completely disorientated, like he had no idea what was going on.
He looked totally dazed and even tried to climb into the cab of my lorry. He kept saying he was worried he would go to jail."

Rowe, from Scotland, said he saw the silver 4x4 weaving from one side of the road to the other in his rear view mirror seconds before the crash, adding that the impact was so great he feared the driver was dead.

"He hit me so hard that it knocked my rear axle two feet up in the air," he said. "When I stopped the lorry and got out to see what had happened, I didn't think he would have survived."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/aug/15/george-michael-arrest-driving

Ayyy, u did it again!:D Still I cling on to my pov and say that its FEORGE, not GEORGE. Perhaps his programming is breaking up and look what's happening...

[lostworld]

Ayyy, u did it again!:D Still I cling on to my pov and say that its FEORGE, not GEORGE. Perhaps his programming is breaking up and look what's happening...

:D

You know, I used to think that George was replaced. All those weird circumstances in the early 90's when he disappeared from the scene completly...
But then there was so many signs that he was under mind control, so I started to believe that it was "just" that.

I don't know what to think really. He can be cloned too. Who knows? :rolleyes:
If it's a double (replaced by a look alike person) this person most certainly is under some kind of mind control too.

[emerald]

Of course, both the originals&their imposters have the same fate. Puppeteering is an art and not an easy one... It's an unwritten showbiz law...
Here's out of nowhere another talentless woman/lab product thrown in the showbiz to keep the sheeple busy, AUDRINA PARTRIDGE, showing in the opening of a PUSSYCAT DOLLS concert. The same "nobody's here" look...

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4468/audrina2.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/audrina2.jpg/)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7326/audrina7.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/audrina7.jpg/)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2108/audrinapatridge6wenn180.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/audrinapatridge6wenn180.jpg/)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7283/audrina3.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/audrina3.jpg/)

HEIDI&SPENCER's portraits in the CUT Restaurant from BEVERLY WILTSHIRE HOTERLS from Beverly Hills. I find them creepy (especially his)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4760/heididsh.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/heididsh.jpg/)

[lostworld]

HEIDI&SPENCER's portraits in the CUT Restaurant from BEVERLY WILTSHIRE HOTERLS from Beverly Hills. I find them creepy (especially his)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4760/heididsh.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/heididsh.jpg/)

Spencer is ALWAYS creepy... :D

But yes, those portraits are really scary. Look at the empty eyes... Totally dead.

[amethyst]

Yes, I read this article a while ago and when this discussion about HGH came up I connected the dots... :rolleyes:

It could very well indicate that she's on something.

Maybe it's the latest designer concoction making the rounds in Hollywood. Their supposed elixir of youth.

Madonna has gone overboard on it though

Guess the top echelon of elites get the "other" stuff (hint, hint)

[armoured_amazon]

Most young women are naturally drawn to butterflies for the feelings that viewing them inspires, for the same reasons most young men respond to trains with an awe and wonder little girls rarely duplicate. Butterflies may well be a symbol used in brainwashing, but I doubt even 1/10th the examples here are anything other than marketing. I worked in marketing for years and years, and my husband still works in television, I can promise you that: stars, butterflies, anything resembling a butterfly or lace and moons/suns are adored by women. I worked on a children's program at channel 15 in Louisville, KY, USA in the mid-90s and this stuff is not shown to children because they have been brainwashed, it is used repeatedly because of the fact it makes for good ratings. Women respond to beautiful, delicate things, men love machines, children like the fantasy of Alice in Wonderland-type escapes.

It's almost like by saying butterflies are used in brainwashing has brainwashed us. Now when you see butterflies, you have been "triggered" to remember what horrible things others may or may not have gone through being brainwashed. It's very sad.

I've always hated butterflies; ask my mum. Even as a baby/kid.

[dancing_with_durga]

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7480/heididsha.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/heididsha.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3237/07233a.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/07233a.jpg/)

Hmmm.
.

[emerald]

Newly weds: ALYSSA MILANO& "husband" DAVID BUGLIARI... And the wedding ceremony song was "Imagine"...:D

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8455/alyssamilanoengaged.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/alyssamilanoengaged.jpg/)

[lostworld]

Newly weds: ALYSSA MILANO& "husband" DAVID BUGLIARI... And the wedding ceremony song was "Imagine"...:D

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8455/alyssamilanoengaged.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/alyssamilanoengaged.jpg/)

Wow. What a great match! NOT!
As usual... :rolleyes:

[greydove]

She could very well be. :eek:

I heard her eyes had been fixed though. Don't know if it's true. But her eyes look more focused now (in those pics I've seen).

Awfulplasticsurgery.com writes about it:
http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/category/audrina-patridge/


Before and after
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3689/audrinaeyes1.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4619/audrinaeyes2.jpg


The eyes were fixed, yes... I guess they were too eager to relase this successful android on the public before all the kinks were worked out. What amazes me is that regular people didn't notice how odd her eyes were. I mean, they mentioned it, but it was like they had no thoughts or opinions about it.

Like: "Wow she's got weird eyes...... oh well!" :rolleyes:

She is getting her own show on MTV now, The Audrina Show.

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/04/15/audrinas-new-reality-show-will-feature-new-love-romances/

Reminds me of this:

Small Wonder - YouTube

[jo_6]

Some good links here. I don't think you've mentioned the Vigilant citizen before.

Rihanna http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=175

Beyonce http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=604

Ga-ga http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

[esowteric]

"My goal," she said recently, "is to be a boring mommy and a boring wife."

Some would say that this is simply an expression of growing up and maturity; though it can also be a giving-in to social conditioning, which is rather Stepfordy. I would say that the "all-levelling norm of mediocrity" is something we should all worry about.

On the bright side, Doris Lessing wrote: "Any human anywhere will blossom in a hundred unexpected talents and capacities simply by being given the opportunity to do so" ... if given the chance and able to accept it.

With good wishes,
eric t.

[wildhorse]

Newly weds: ALYSSA MILANO& "husband" DAVID BUGLIARI... And the wedding ceremony song was "Imagine"...:D

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8455/alyssamilanoengaged.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/alyssamilanoengaged.jpg/)

same old beauty and the beast get up then? *yawn*

infact...she looks like cheryl cole :rolleyes:

[lostworld]

"My goal," she said recently, "is to be a boring mommy and a boring wife."

Some would say that this is simply an expression of growing up and maturity; though it can also be a giving-in to social conditioning, which is rather Stepfordy. I would say that the "all-levelling norm of mediocrity" is something we should all worry about.


So very true. :cool:

[ad_veritatem]

Lady Gaga's producer, Rob Fusari, says the singer has a "Tin Man heart." (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/2590506/Lady-GaGa-eats-up-and-spits-out-men.html)

[emerald]

Another "so in love" pair, TYRA BANKS and her bf of 2 years, 50 yo, JOHN UTENDAHL, "the founder and owner of Utendahl Group, the largest African American-owned investment banking group in the United States" as Wiki states


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1995/tyrabanksjohnutendahlda.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/tyrabanksjohnutendahlda.jpg/)

[emerald]

Another model who stirred controversy: 14 yo Polish Monika Jagaciak who got her 1st contract at 13... Btw, in her native country is represented by GAGA MODELLING AGENCY:D

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3729/jac300.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/jac300.jpg/)

Utterly sick advertisement for LOVE'S BABY SOFT products, dated 1976

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5061/lovesbabysoft.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/lovesbabysoft.jpg/)

PAUL SMITH's campaign winter 2009

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2672/paulsmith41.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/paulsmith41.jpg/)

Another FASHION JUNKIE adv:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2223/sisleyfashiona1n.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/sisleyfashiona1n.jpg/)

[lostworld]

Another "so in love" pair, TYRA BANKS and her bf of 2 years, 50 yo, JOHN UTENDAHL, "the founder and owner of Utendahl Group, the largest African American-owned investment banking group in the United States" as Wiki states



Thanks Emerald,
I hadn't heard about this "relationsship" before... What a cliché!
A banker/businessman, of course...


Tyra Banks recently moved production of both of her shows, “The Tyra Banks Show” and “America’s Next Top Model”, to New York, and rumors are flying that the reason for the switch from Los Angeles was so that she could be closer to her boyfriend, John Utendahl,50 years old. Tyra denies the rumors and says she’s insulted by the idea.

Banks’ boyfriend, Utendahl, is based in NY. Utendahl is chairman of Utendahl Capital Management LP, the largest African-American owned investment bank in the US.Founded in 1992, it was the first minority-owned firm that didn’t specialize in municipal bonds. Utendahl earned his stripes working for Merrill Lynch and Salomon Brothers.

Utendahl’s former marriage to Phyllis Hollis ended. Utendahl and Banks started dating in July 2007. Soon after, Banks moved her shows to NY. Banks said she did not relocate to NY because of Utendahl but because of decisions made with her manager.

http://mycelebritycorner.blogspot.com/2009/06/tyra-banks-boyfriend.html

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2456/spl64009001.jpg

[lostworld]

Utterly sick advertisement for LOVE'S BABY SOFT products, dated 1976

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5061/lovesbabysoft.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/lovesbabysoft.jpg/)



That's really sick...! :mad:
Notice the phallic shaped cosmetic products too...

[lostworld]

Guerlain's Midnight Butterfly make up collection from Christmas 2008.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9407/guerlain18320364.jpghttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1358/draftlens1373421module1.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1839/imgthingrss.jpghttp://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5831/guerlain13oct08320.jpghttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4519/article107787602f6d5dc0.jpg

[emerald]

EVA MENDES for CALVIN KLEIN. The bottle of perfume strategically placed:D

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6969/6a00d83451b05569e201156.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/6a00d83451b05569e201156.jpg/)

TOM FORD's perfumes

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/605/cachacatomford.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/cachacatomford.jpg/)

COVET by SARAH JESSICA PARKER.. Ingenious idea for it... COVETing for freedom, more exactly...

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6624/covet2.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/covet2.jpg/)

VIKTOR&ROLF's perfume, FLOWER BOMB

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9317/flowerbomb1.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/flowerbomb1.jpg/)

CHAMADE by GUERLAIN... Fuckin' stupid&outrageous...

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8813/chamadead1.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/chamadead1.jpg/)

EMMA WATSON for Russian issue of VOGUE, September 2009. The doll again...

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3821/6eb02f7befdc.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/6eb02f7befdc.jpg/)

KRISTEN STEWART on the cover of DAZED&CONFUSED, also Sept. 2009:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3694/311m1vs.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/i/311m1vs.jpg/)

[emerald]

SUGABABE AMELLE sporting the same haircut as RIHANNA, ALICE DELLAL, CASSIE etc.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9761/article12072740617f7b10.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/article12072740617f7b10.jpg/)

Another match made in heaven, I mean hell, for he was charged with spousal abuse last year... Comedian DON CORNELIUS& wife VICTORIA AVILA. Oh, and he's 73 yo:D

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6899/07f697d2.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/07f697d2.jpg/)

[emerald]

ISSIMA MIDNIGHT STAR perfume

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7315/issimamidnightstar2.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/issimamidnightstar2.jpg/)

Amerindian pyramid bottle from CHAMPACA

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3616/cdgluxechampaca.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/cdgluxechampaca.jpg/)


VERY IRRESISTIBLE by GIVENCHY

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/893/givenchyveryirresistibl.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/givenchyveryirresistibl.jpg/)


COMME DES GARCONS campaign

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7672/commedesgarconspreview.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/commedesgarconspreview.jpg/)

[lostworld]

^
It's amazing how they always put their symbolism into cosmetic products too...
Don't forget about the celeb-perfumes (Britney, Paris etc) that are also blatantly covered in all this MK stuff (posted earlier in this thread). :(

[siphon880di]

EMMA THOMPSON for Russian issue of VOGUE, September 2009. The doll again...

That's Emma Watson, not Thompson.

[siphon880di]

Musician Crypress Hill is on the dark side:

(music video is "triggering". careful).

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[emerald]

That's Emma Watson, not Thompson.

Yes, sure, my mistake, corrected it... Anyway they share the same birthday and played together...:D

[emerald]

ENTOURAGE actress ALEXIS DZIENA. Interesting how she ressembles MILEY CYRUS, OLSEN TWINS, MEGAN FOX&ANA BEATRIZ BARROS...

ALEXIS
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8863/5324573.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/5324573.jpg/)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/77/alexisdziena2200x300.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/alexisdziena2200x300.jpg/)

MILEY
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4899/mileycyrusq.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/mileycyrusq.jpg/)

MEGAN FOX
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5324/meganfoxj.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/meganfoxj.jpg/)

ANA BEATRIZ BARROS
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1779/anabeatrizbarros2m.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/anabeatrizbarros2m.jpg/)

MK OLSEN
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1663/olsen5.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/olsen5.jpg/)

ALEXIS in adv. for YMI jeans

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3348/ymi1.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/ymi1.jpg/)

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/586/ymi2.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/ymi2.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2329/ymi4.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/ymi4.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9669/ymi5.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/ymi5.jpg/)

[astrochicken]

Fucking scary.

Their eyes all lack any depth whatsoever.

Just a blank vapid stare.

Lights on and no-one @ home.

[kiwimaj]

Utterly sick advertisement for LOVE'S BABY SOFT products, dated 1976

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5061/lovesbabysoft.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/lovesbabysoft.jpg/)

Hi Lost !

Sorry for the absence, but trying to come on when I can. What also is missed with this shockingly disgraceful piece of paedo advertising is the oh so, very subtle, devils horn symbolism as well with her hand...

I could go on...shock, horror, is all I can say about this really...:mad:

[lostworld]

Utterly sick advertisement for LOVE'S BABY SOFT products, dated 1976

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5061/lovesbabysoft.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/lovesbabysoft.jpg/)

Hi Lost !

Sorry for the absence, but trying to come on when I can. What also is missed with this shockingly disgraceful piece of paedo advertising is the oh so, very subtle, devils horn symbolism as well with her hand...

I could go on...shock, horror, is all I can say about this really...:mad:

Hi Kiwi,
Good to see you here... :)

I hope you've got your allergy under control and that you feel better.

Yes, that pic was very disturbing. They stop at nothing... :(

[kiwimaj]

Hi Kiwi,
Good to see you here... :)

I hope you've got your allergy under control and that you feel better.

Yes, that pic was very disturbing. They stop at nothing... :(

I find that if I go on later on in the evening I am OK, but too much exposure and all sorts of nasties happen, one mainly being aching teeth !! Just goes to show what the PTB will do go "dumb" us down, and block our brainwaves..It is a real pain to be so sensitive, but that's life...:(

I have seen more examples of soul less monstrosoties on display on mainstream TV of late and it is SHOCKING !! How can we know who is truly human and who is not?? I think those of us who are truly human know...would you agree Lost?

http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1938996module9059666photo_1207854229Laug hing_Cat.JPGhttp://www.apbc.org.uk/table_tips/t_t_images/dog.jpg

[lostworld]

I find that if I go on later on in the evening I am OK, but too much exposure and all sorts of nasties happen, one mainly being aching teeth !! Just goes to show what the PTB will do go "dumb" us down, and block our brainwaves..It is a real pain to be so sensitive, but that's life...:(

I have seen more examples of soul less monstrosoties on display on mainstream TV of late and it is SHOCKING !! How can we know who is truly human and who is not?? I think those of us who are truly human know...would you agree Lost?

http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1938996module9059666photo_1207854229Laug hing_Cat.JPGhttp://www.apbc.org.uk/table_tips/t_t_images/dog.jpg

Oh what cuties... :) I love those pics, thanks Kiwi! :)

Aching teeth? That must be tough... :( I'm sorry.
You just come here whenever you can, no pressure my dear.

It's sometimes a pain to be sensitive yes, but there are a lot of good things about it too... :rolleyes:
I can't even imagine what life would be like as "ordinary". So, even through the hard times this is better... :)

I think our sensitivity/openness makes us much more difficult to program and control. Our minds think in a wider range and that makes us see more than others, incl. replacements/mind control etc.
I also think that lightbeings recognize darkbeings and this includes things that are connected to "darkness" (such as again mindcontrol, replacements etc.).

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5434/wolfpuppyneardencanada1.jpg

[raquel]

some pictures of Beyonce's clothing line House of Dereon .I think i see a animal print hat on one of the little girls , and it looks like one is wearing red heels.http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/house_of_dereon_ad.jpg
and a butterfly on the wall.http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/house_of_dereon_ads.jpg

[emerald]

some pictures of Beyonce's clothing line House of Dereon .I think i see a animal print hat on one of the little girls , and it looks like one is wearing red heels.http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/house_of_dereon_ad.jpg
and a butterfly on the wall.http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/house_of_dereon_ads.jpg

They were accused of turning little girls into prostitutes and on good reason.

[emerald]

http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/playboy-model-jasmine-fiore-murdered-by-husband-a-contestant-on-vh1-reality-tv-show-megan-wants-a-millionaire/

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/woman-sues-david-copperfield-for-sexual-assault/26655

[emerald]

Ironic for a black woman to wear the KKK cross...

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3623/beyoncedereon1.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/beyoncedereon1.jpg/)

[dancing_with_durga]

I first noticed this clearly concerted move to promote sexualised images of little girls a few years ago. I wanted to do a card for my niece's eighth birthday, so I asked my brother what she was into. 'Bratz' was the answer. I was quite shocked when I saw these things, and made a comment to my bro about the inappropriateness of hooker chic for eight-year olds, but with hindsight it was clearly just pushing open the door. The Barbie Aryan housewife conformity was one thing, these things are clearly something else.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9141/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg/)

[lauren_almighty]

I first noticed this clearly concerted move to promote sexualised images of little girls a few years ago. I wanted to do a card for my niece's eighth birthday, so I asked my brother what she was into. 'Bratz' was the answer. I was quite shocked when I saw these things, and made a comment to my bro about the inappropriateness of hooker chic for eight-year olds, but with hindsight it was clearly just pushing open the door. The Barbie Aryan housewife conformity was one thing, these things are clearly something else.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9141/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg/)

I think those things are hideous. If I had children they would not be playing with them.

[candygirl]

I first noticed this clearly concerted move to promote sexualised images of little girls a few years ago. I wanted to do a card for my niece's eighth birthday, so I asked my brother what she was into. 'Bratz' was the answer. I was quite shocked when I saw these things, and made a comment to my bro about the inappropriateness of hooker chic for eight-year olds, but with hindsight it was clearly just pushing open the door. The Barbie Aryan housewife conformity was one thing, these things are clearly something else.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9141/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg/)

My two hate bratz and think they look like ailiens and very ugly.

[crystalline]

Hi everyone,

I've not been able to read all of the thread, only got to page 11 so far, but as a surviving mind control victim I just wanted to thank everyone who is contributing and distributing information out there about the horrific onslaught of the human psyche for the purpose of control.

A lot of what was done to sc rew me up I now understand, and I now understand why I have obsessed with certain films:

Stepford Wives
Wizard of Oz
They Live
Willy Wonka

just wanted to add that I am also unable now to remove the whole disney stuff from my psyche and am going to Disneyworld soon

I have a photographic memory for songs and don't know why?

[siphon880di]

Hi everyone,

I've not been able to read all of the thread, only got to page 11 so far, but as a surviving mind control victim I just wanted to thank everyone who is contributing and distributing information out there about the horrific onslaught of the human psyche for the purpose of control.

A lot of what was done to sc rew me up I now understand, and I now understand why I have obsessed with certain films:

Stepford Wives
Wizard of Oz
They Live
Willy Wonka

just wanted to add that I am also unable now to remove the whole disney stuff from my psyche and am going to Disneyworld soon

I have a photographic memory for songs and don't know why?

Crystalline, msg me on pm. You should know something. I don't want to talk about this in public.

[dawnismygoddess]

Ironic for a black woman to wear the KKK cross...

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3623/beyoncedereon1.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/beyoncedereon1.jpg/)

^ What on earth makes that a "KKK cross"?

Please enlighten me.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Could their feet be any bigger?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9141/mattelbratz122711133600.jpg

Sorry, but that's just funny :p

[grachtengordel]

I have a photographic memory for songs

you see 'songs' as pictures?

[lostworld]

Hi everyone,

I've not been able to read all of the thread, only got to page 11 so far, but as a surviving mind control victim I just wanted to thank everyone who is contributing and distributing information out there about the horrific onslaught of the human psyche for the purpose of control.

A lot of what was done to sc rew me up I now understand, and I now understand why I have obsessed with certain films:

Stepford Wives
Wizard of Oz
They Live
Willy Wonka

just wanted to add that I am also unable now to remove the whole disney stuff from my psyche and am going to Disneyworld soon

I have a photographic memory for songs and don't know why?

Hi Crystalline
and very welcome here :)

I'm glad if this thread can be of any help for you, especially since you're a victim yourself. We certainly don't want this thread to work as a "trigger" for mind control, just to spread the word of all the evil that's going on - so I hope it won't be any problem for you to check out this thread some more.

I hope you are ok now and getting help if you need it.

Take care,
Lostworld

[crystalline]

Hello Lostworld, and thanks for the welcome.

I would love to be able to tell everyone what happened to me because some of what I have read is true. Twenty years ago I went to London for a career in modelling, I became under the control of a manager and this was where it started. I can verify the whole one hit wonder thing is true and this is I think because the programming isn't successful or perhaps has something to do with blood groups. The psychological traumas are still there, and I now have some meaning to the surrealism of my existence, thanks to people like David Icke.

There is something that I am still researching and that is the area of psychic/telepathic abilities. I strongly believe that something was being done with this and don't know whether mk victims were chosen because they had these abilities or whether the microchips are being given information to make the victim believe they are psychic?

[armoured_amazon]

you see 'songs' as pictures?

It's not uncommon.

[armoured_amazon]

Hello Lostworld, and thanks for the welcome.

I would love to be able to tell everyone what happened to me because some of what I have read is true. Twenty years ago I went to London for a career in modelling, I became under the control of a manager and this was where it started. I can verify the whole one hit wonder thing is true and this is I think because the programming isn't successful or perhaps has something to do with blood groups. The psychological traumas are still there, and I now have some meaning to the surrealism of my existence, thanks to people like David Icke.

There is something that I am still researching and that is the area of psychic/telepathic abilities. I strongly believe that something was being done with this and don't know whether mk victims were chosen because they had these abilities or whether the microchips are being given information to make the victim believe they are psychic?

I'm glad you found your way here and out of the industry. :)

[endlessvista]

Utterly sick advertisement for LOVE'S BABY SOFT products, dated 1976

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5061/lovesbabysoft.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/i/lovesbabysoft.jpg/)





That can't be real!

[crystalline]

thanks armoured amazon!

I am working my way through this thread and there is sooo much that I can relate to. I'm not entirely sure about the doppelganger stuff but I can say that most people in the entertainment industry are entranced/hynotised/trauma induced altered states. When you say that the eyes are soul less this is true, because they are in hynotic state.

I sometimes wonder whether I was selected way before I embarked on a career in this industry, because some of the trauma was done very early on.

The movie Don't Look Now I watched as a child and was very traumatised by this.

I have a cat tattooed on me and I was given a red dress to wear on a meeting with someone, this dress was significant. Many events that happened in my life play like a movie in my mind, because they are so far removed from reality. They create life to be surreal so that it f ucks you up. A bit like the Jim Carey movie Truman Show. I think my grandfather was also a victim which is why he was institutionalised when he tried to speak out. He tried to warn people that they would become mind controlled through their tv's. He heard voices in his head telling him to kill his family, he was also 0neg blood, which I think is important in this all too.

[greydove]

Hello Lostworld, and thanks for the welcome.

I would love to be able to tell everyone what happened to me because some of what I have read is true. Twenty years ago I went to London for a career in modelling, I became under the control of a manager and this was where it started. I can verify the whole one hit wonder thing is true and this is I think because the programming isn't successful or perhaps has something to do with blood groups. The psychological traumas are still there, and I now have some meaning to the surrealism of my existence, thanks to people like David Icke.

There is something that I am still researching and that is the area of psychic/telepathic abilities. I strongly believe that something was being done with this and don't know whether mk victims were chosen because they had these abilities or whether the microchips are being given information to make the victim believe they are psychic?

Hello Crystalline, I'm not sure if this is relevant to your post, but I wanted to mention that I'm watching the Dollhouse (http://www.fox.com/dollhouse/) series which I recommend to all readers of this thread. Viewed as partial truth, it gives some interesting insight into what they're able to do nowadays with mind control.

The most recent episode I watched had one of the "dolls" get an implant in one of her eyes which caused some blindness, but allowed her eye to be used as a camera whose p.o.v. could be viewed remotely.

Could this be the cause of the drooping eye or pinpoint pupils....?

As for the telepathic phenom of MK'd people. Its real IMO; not just something they want you to belelive, and with technology its becoming easier to simulate telepathy anyway.

[crystalline]

Does anyone know of any research/evidence of mind control victims suffering recurrent headaches?

Hello greydove. I have looked at the link to this show Dollhouse, the brazen audacity of the media to glamorize this, it's repulsive. There are people who are struggling to come to terms with life because of shattered personalities. I am still unable to focus and make everyday decisions, even though I can be very articulate, the ability to make a decision is taken from you. Thankfully I now have a wonderful husband who deals with everything for me. However, I would love to one day make sense of it all and put the pieces back together and be whole again. Every time I try to piece it all together I get blinding headaches, as I have had since posting on this thread, and then I hear sounds in my ears. I am not afraid anymore, I want people to know what is going on, but most importantly, I want to know why?

[greydove]

Does anyone know of any research/evidence of mind control victims suffering recurrent headaches?

Hello greydove. I have looked at the link to this show Dollhouse, the brazen audacity of the media to glamorize this, it's repulsive. There are people who are struggling to come to terms with life because of shattered personalities. I am still unable to focus and make everyday decisions, even though I can be very articulate, the ability to make a decision is taken from you. Thankfully I now have a wonderful husband who deals with everything for me. However, I would love to one day make sense of it all and put the pieces back together and be whole again. Every time I try to piece it all together I get blinding headaches, as I have had since posting on this thread, and then I hear sounds in my ears. I am not afraid anymore, I want people to know what is going on, but most importantly, I want to know why?

Yes, it is horrific, but interesting if viewed as a clue to what's really going on. The show does glamorize the idea of being MPD. The "dolls" are downloaded with different personalities allowing them to perform in any capacity imaginable.

They can be programmed to be expert lovers, singers, athletes, black ops agents, jewel thieves etc. One of the recent ones had the heroine programmed as a cult member in order to infiltrate a Manson/Waco-like compound!!

After they perform their jobs, they are "wiped" through a procedure that looks a lot like electroshock. Supposedly they have no memory of what they've done after this, but its interesting that as the show goes on we find they are retaining memories of what's happened, and starting to break their control which I find interesting.

The show seems to suggest that the human mind and the human soul are not entirely programmable, that we retain selfhood, soulhood, no matter what's been done to us. This is a positive message the show tries to put across. But absolutely they glamorize being different people, like its a cool thing to do.:rolleyes:

Crystalline, I wonder if your headaches are accompanied by ear ringing?

[lostworld]

Hello Lostworld, and thanks for the welcome.

I would love to be able to tell everyone what happened to me because some of what I have read is true. Twenty years ago I went to London for a career in modelling, I became under the control of a manager and this was where it started. I can verify the whole one hit wonder thing is true and this is I think because the programming isn't successful or perhaps has something to do with blood groups. The psychological traumas are still there, and I now have some meaning to the surrealism of my existence, thanks to people like David Icke.

There is something that I am still researching and that is the area of psychic/telepathic abilities. I strongly believe that something was being done with this and don't know whether mk victims were chosen because they had these abilities or whether the microchips are being given information to make the victim believe they are psychic?


Does anyone know of any research/evidence of mind control victims suffering recurrent headaches?

Hello greydove. I have looked at the link to this show Dollhouse, the brazen audacity of the media to glamorize this, it's repulsive. There are people who are struggling to come to terms with life because of shattered personalities. I am still unable to focus and make everyday decisions, even though I can be very articulate, the ability to make a decision is taken from you. Thankfully I now have a wonderful husband who deals with everything for me. However, I would love to one day make sense of it all and put the pieces back together and be whole again. Every time I try to piece it all together I get blinding headaches, as I have had since posting on this thread, and then I hear sounds in my ears. I am not afraid anymore, I want people to know what is going on, but most importantly, I want to know why?

Hi again Crystalline :)
You're very brave to talk about your own experiences and I'm very happy that you do. It helps a lot in our work here too, so thanks a lot :)

About psychic/telepathic abilities: I came to think about these videos I just watched recently... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aNUguHkQ4I
Very interesting :)

Yes, I've gone back again to where I started about humans origin, the Annunaki etc. :cool:

Anyway - Pye talks about how humans only use 10% of their brain (we've all heard about this before) and how they, the Annunaki engineers behind our creation, blocked the other 90% from us, so that we wouldn't outsmart them and rebell against our leaders.
He talks about it here, at 07.00 and on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxQwXo1SO34&feature=related


We HAVE the 90% in our brains but we don't have access to it.
Pye mentions how the "idiot savants" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome) get some beam of light in these 90%, for instance Dustin Hoffman's character "Rainman" (math) but we also see this phenomena within music, art etc.
By mistake, they get access to a part of these 90% - which explains the brilliance.

According to Treffert, about half of persons with savant syndrome have autistic disorder, while the other half have another developmental disability, mental retardation, brain injury or disease. (Wikipedia)
Perhaps even "normal" people without disorders get access to some of these 90%? Like psychics, the genius of Mozart, Michelangelo etc? (or perhaps these people also had/have some smaller brain injury, I don't know)
Point is - of course the Elite would watch over these people then. Their special talent is discovered very early on, at least it is in school - and then they will watch over this child's development over the years. Perhaps even try to control it/experiment on it with mind control? :rolleyes:

OR they try to access these blocked 90% by experimenting mind control on victims, to see what's there... They probably have some idea through their hidden knowledge of the ancient alien races etc. They know what to look for so to speak...

Just a theory.

[emerald]

THANDIE NEWTON puts it elegantly about rape/abuse... What romance is followed by therapy anyway? And Oprah's South African school, nest of shit either...

From imdb.com

Newton's Regrets Over Early Romance

Thandie Newton has mixed feelings about starting her acting career so young, insisting she should have been protected from the troubled relationship she began with director John Duigan when she was a teen.

The actress was just 16 years old when she flew to Australia to film her debut movie, 1991's Flirting, and began a turbulent six-year romance with the director, who was then 39.

After recently working with schoolgirls at Oprah Winfrey's Leadership Academy in South Africa, Newton was reminded of how young she was when she started her love affair with Duigan.

And the Crash star still wonders how the filmmaker could have dated someone so "vulnerable".

She says, "I was 16. I didn't tell my parents about it (the relationship) but really young people who are vulnerable have to be looked out for. I've just been out to South Africa to Oprah's Leadership Academy. It educates girls from impoverished backgrounds and I was taking part in an arts week.

"I looked at the 16-year-old girls there. How can it possibly be right to start a serious relationship with someone that age when you are so much older? I've been through a lot of therapy so I sort of know why people do things now." »

[emerald]

Another case of "hot not". Newly weds ANDREA CORR&billionaire BRETT DESMOND. She's 35 and him "only" 32... Whatever, he looks in his late 30's or more. And he ressembles BILLY JOEL... Interesting coz her sis CAROLINE is also married to a... millionaire, FRANK WOODS...:D

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9832/article1208122062305b60.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/article1208122062305b60.jpg/)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4443/article1208122062304060.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/article1208122062304060.jpg/)

[jo_6]

This is Miley Cyrus' 9-year-old sister Noah and her friends at a pre-party for the Teen Choice Awards at Level 3 Club in Hollywood 5-Aug
http://dlisted.com/files/whywhywhy1.jpg

And then from Celebitchy: A few weeks ago, everybody’s favorite Disney teen Miley Cyrus did something shocking. It did not involve Annie Leibovitz and a half-draped sheet. It did not involve Miley posing with her father as if he was a lover. It did not involve Miley humping a chair while her director took pictures. It did not involve anything racist. It did not involve having a 20-year-old boyfriend who likes to do Bible studies late at night, when he’s spending the night. So… maybe I should have been clearer before. Another day, another Miley Cyrus scandal. The latest one involved a stripper pole, a pair of hotpants and a screaming audience of pre-teens at the so-called “Teen Choice Awards”.

As you could imagine, Miley’s stripper pole show caused quite a bit of controversy. According to the Enquirer, the parents attending the Teen Choice Awards were absolutely furious, and were overheard venting their frustrations about… Billy Ray Cyrus. One showbiz mom said, “Billy Ray should be slapped across the face - and Tish needs her head examined.” Another pointed out: “They approved this routine - knowing Miley’s got a pedophile stalker who’s all over the news? It’s insane!” The Enquirer also got some quotes from some of the kids in the audience, some of whom didn’t even think Miley’s stripper dance was cute. One teenage boy said, “We like Miley because she’s a nice girl who’s cute… But she was acting like a stripper… so slutty!”
http://images.starpulse.com/news/media/Miley-Cyrus-pole-dancing.jpg
Miley Cyrus danced around a pole in a skimpy pair of shorts flanked by scantly-clad dancers during her performance of 'Party in the USA' at the Teen Choice Awards. Too much for a 16-year-old at a kid's show.

[nicholaq]

This thread is fascinating. Every day it is the first thing I look at when I switch my computer on.;)

[armoured_amazon]

This thread is fascinating. Every day it is the first thing I look at when I switch my computer on.;)

Hehe, as soon as I visit the forum, it's the first thread I catch up on. :)

[lostworld]

This thread is fascinating. Every day it is the first thing I look at when I switch my computer on.;)

Hi Nicholaq and very welcome here :)

Hehe, as soon as I visit the forum, it's the first thread I catch up on. :)

Oh... how great guys! Very encouraging :) :) :)

[jo_6]

Was 'The black' Michael Jackson the same one as 'the white' Michael Jackson? Could he have been cloned/ replaced around 1984? ( I think he was cloned around the Pepsi hair burning incident time).
Anyway, its about the heights.
In this white Michaels arrest shot, he is down as 5'11''
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/michaeljackson.jpg
http://http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/michaeljackson.jpg[/IMG]
Brooke Shields says in her autobiography that she is an even 6ft tall.
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/243999michael-jackson-brooke-shields.jpg
But then check out Brooke with the original Black Michael
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:sMWDofV7TgOJHM:http://media.vanityfair.de/img/b550x550/zs/brooke-shields-michael-jackson.1.jpg
http://[IMG]http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:sz5_87hFOI9NBM:http://c.getbackimages.com/uri/w514_h676_cfalse_K0426041650/emmanuel-lewis-michael-jackson-and-brooke-shields-at-26th-grammy-awards/image/2/9/9/3/2993193.jpg
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/jackson-brook.jpg

I reckon the black Michael must have been about 5'5''
Diana Ross says in her autobiography that she is 5ft 5inches
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w7ilNrFnHH4/SkkZoqmKN9I/AAAAAAAAMP4/SN6oJs-f0-4/s400/jackson-12.jpg
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/-jackson-ross.jpg
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2009-06/47712433.jpg

Diana as Dorothy, Michael as scarecrow in The Wiz 1978 (Wizard of Oz)
http://www.altfg.com/Stars/w/wiz-diana-ross-michael-jackson.jpg
Then Diana with white Michael who is now about 5 inches taller than her( and shes probably wearing heals)
http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/imageBank/m/Michael-Jackson-and-Diana-R.jpg

[jo_6]

From 'Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet ' by Vigilant Citizen
"The symbolism surrounding Lady Gaga is so blatant that one might wonder if it’s all a sick joke. Illuminati symbolism is becoming so clear that analyses like this one becomes a simple exercise of pointing out the obvious. Her whole persona (whether its an act or not) is a tribute to mind control, where being vacuous, incoherent and absent minded becomes a fashionable thing."
Its a great article and I won't repeat it here, but I will mention one of the comments from her back-up dancer:


backUpdancer August 15th, 2009 6:01 pm :

"I’m one of Lady GaGa’s back up dancers. I just wanted to say that this article makes a lot of sense from what I’ve seen, and have talked to her about. Everything is highly organized in her life, not by her, but by her record label, and those people she keep closest to her. She has worked herself beyound exhaustion, but she won’t stop and smell the roses (I don’t think she can do to the conditioning perhaps?) Also..while she says that her name is from Queens, “Radio GaGa” song. One time while going past her backstage room, which was cracked open. I noticed she was on the couch not as herself, acting like a little girl while saying “goo goo ga ga”, but not in a joking manner. Then the guy she was with, said something to her, I’m guessing a “trigger word” and she changed back to her “music ego”. It was odd. I never told anyone about that before."

The article is at http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676
I personally find Gaga's stuff absolutely disgusting, the worst of the lot. Pushing a very low and dark agenda.
I doubt she's got a clue what she's doing though as I think shes totally programmed and mind controlled.
http://http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg

[armoured_amazon]

One time while going past her backstage room, which was cracked open. I noticed she was on the couch not as herself, acting like a little girl while saying “goo goo ga ga”, but not in a joking manner. Then the guy she was with, said something to her, I’m guessing a “trigger word” and she changed back to her “music ego”. It was odd. I never told anyone about that before."

:eek:

[emerald]

Was 'The black' Michael Jackson the same one as 'the white' Michael Jackson? Could he have been cloned/ replaced around 1984? ( I think he was cloned around the Pepsi hair burning incident time).
Anyway, its about the heights.
In this white Michaels arrest shot, he is down as 5'11''
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/michaeljackson.jpg
http://http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/michaeljackson.jpg[/IMG]
Brooke Shields says in her autobiography that she is an even 6ft tall.
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/243999michael-jackson-brooke-shields.jpg
But then check out Brooke with the original Black Michael
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:sMWDofV7TgOJHM:http://media.vanityfair.de/img/b550x550/zs/brooke-shields-michael-jackson.1.jpg
http://[IMG]http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:sz5_87hFOI9NBM:http://c.getbackimages.com/uri/w514_h676_cfalse_K0426041650/emmanuel-lewis-michael-jackson-and-brooke-shields-at-26th-grammy-awards/image/2/9/9/3/2993193.jpg
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/jackson-brook.jpg

I reckon the black Michael must have been about 5'5''
Diana Ross says in her autobiography that she is 5ft 5inches
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w7ilNrFnHH4/SkkZoqmKN9I/AAAAAAAAMP4/SN6oJs-f0-4/s400/jackson-12.jpg
http://www.samuelcraven.com/files/-jackson-ross.jpg
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2009-06/47712433.jpg

Diana as Dorothy, Michael as scarecrow in The Wiz 1978 (Wizard of Oz)
http://www.altfg.com/Stars/w/wiz-diana-ross-michael-jackson.jpg
Then Diana with white Michael who is now about 5 inches taller than her( and shes probably wearing heals)
http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/imageBank/m/Michael-Jackson-and-Diana-R.jpg

Absolutely agree, this is another source:

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/33424

[armoured_amazon]

Absolutely agree, this is another source:

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/33424

Me too. I'm sad for both/all of them....

[venusinpisces]

Hello Crystalline, I'm not sure if this is relevant to your post, but I wanted to mention that I'm watching the Dollhouse (http://www.fox.com/dollhouse/) series which I recommend to all readers of this thread. Viewed as partial truth, it gives some interesting insight into what they're able to do nowadays with mind control.

The most recent episode I watched had one of the "dolls" get an implant in one of her eyes which caused some blindness, but allowed her eye to be used as a camera whose p.o.v. could be viewed remotely.

Could this be the cause of the drooping eye or pinpoint pupils....?

As for the telepathic phenom of MK'd people. Its real IMO; not just something they want you to belelive, and with technology its becoming easier to simulate telepathy anyway.

Here is the Wikipedia description of the Dollhouse series. Almost everything in it seems to be analogous to mind control programs. It really is shocking--Springmeier has written about how Alpha is the codeword for the kind of slave particularly programmed for assasination. Alphas often end up working for intelligence agencies, and here you have that exact same story in the description! Guess Springmeier must have made it all up based on the TV show, even though this show came out some 10 years after he distributed The Illuminati Formula...


Eliza Dushku plays a young woman called Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls". The Dolls are people whose personalities and existence in the outside world have been wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas. Contents of an imprint may include semantic memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, as appropriate for different assignments (referred to as engagements). The new persona can be an amalgam of several real people, and the end result necessarily incorporates both strengths and flaws from the template personalities. The Actives are then hired out for particular jobs, which can be anything from crimes to fantasies to the occasional good deed. On engagements, Actives are monitored internally (and remotely) by Handlers. In between engagements they are mind-wiped into a child-like state and live in a futuristic dormitory/laboratory, a hidden facility nicknamed "The Dollhouse". The Dollhouse is located somewhere in Los Angeles and is a subsidiary of a mysterious research group known as the Rossum Corporation.
The story follows Echo, who begins, in her mind-wiped state, to become self-aware.[6][7]
The show also focuses on the employees of the mysterious "Dollhouse," including the manager of the Dollhouse, Adelle DeWitt (Olivia Williams), Echo's Handler Boyd Langton (Harry Lennix), and the in-house computer scientist Topher Brink (Fran Kranz), as well as two other "Dolls" named Sierra and Victor (played by Dichen Lachman and Enver Gjokaj), who are friendly with and often seem to remember Echo. The names of Actives are simply letters in the phonetic alphabet. Although the Actives are ostensibly volunteers who work for a period of five years, the operation is highly illegal and under constant threat on one end from Paul Ballard (Tahmoh Penikett), a determined federal agent who has heard a rumor about the Dolls, and on the other end a rogue Active named "Alpha".[7]

[lucyfer1111]

And I am so disappointed, almost furious. Whenever I try to talk about these photos to my mate, all he does is dismiss them as "just photos". He just doesn't see what we see. To him, everything is about "just photos" where people could be "standing higher than others" or the other one "knealing down" -thus explaining the difference in height, or high heels, or this or that or something else... He is not a skeptic, but it's still totally useless trying to show him these photos. To me, it is getting pretty obvious. BUT: I've been going through these photos for months now and have reformed my opinions during that time. He says (although he is NOT all about the same masses as most ppl) that he doesn't have "time" for these things. So when I show him a few "evidence" every now and then it's for no use -he always states that "but it could be the lighting... the set-up... the camera... the manipulation of the photo... the psychological effect that you see what you want to see... the "this and that and so on".

ARGH. Trying not to take it so personal but... this is just what tptb want. Just exactly that. Even with ppl who are so "new age" or wide-ranged etc. :mad:

[crystalline]

And I am so disappointed, almost furious. Whenever I try to talk about these photos to my mate, all he does is dismiss them as "just photos". He just doesn't see what we see. To him, everything is about "just photos" where people could be "standing higher than others" or the other one "knealing down" -thus explaining the difference in height, or high heels, or this or that or something else... He is not a skeptic, but it's still totally useless trying to show him these photos. To me, it is getting pretty obvious. BUT: I've been going through these photos for months now and have reformed my opinions during that time. He says (although he is NOT all about the same masses as most ppl) that he doesn't have "time" for these things. So when I show him a few "evidence" every now and then it's for no use -he always states that "but it could be the lighting... the set-up... the camera... the manipulation of the photo... the psychological effect that you see what you want to see... the "this and that and so on".

ARGH. Trying not to take it so personal but... this is just what tptb want. Just exactly that. Even with ppl who are so "new age" or wide-ranged etc. :mad:


I can see where your friend is coming from here. Some of the transformations that occur with celebs could be due to lighting/standing position etc and I think that everyone is forgetting the amount of plastic surgery everyone in the media has. What is, imo, evidence of mind control is the vacant look in the eyes, the soul less smiles and the inability to have an opinion. So often the views these people express are picture perfect answers, this is programming. The usual giveaway is if you compare footage from when they were younger, the spontaneity is there. Once programmed, there is no longer room for spontaneity, because spontaneity equals independence which equals being in control.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Just a little smth on a celebrity's Illuminati ties:

Queen Elizabeth is distantly related to Lemmy from Motorhead, on her mother's side.

80 Things You (Probably) Didn't Know About Queen Elizabeth
http://www.anagrammy.com/misc/queen.html

[faulconandsnowjob]

The most recent episode I watched had one of the "dolls" get an implant in one of her eyes which caused some blindness, but allowed her eye to be used as a camera whose p.o.v. could be viewed remotely.

Could this be the cause of the drooping eye or pinpoint pupils....?


Oh, wow. They are just letting it all out there, aren't they? :eek:

... And I’ll get into the blindness of the eye, because one of the ways to identify these folks is because their eyes will be slightly... one eye will be slightly twisted. And they’ll have a scar on one side of their face. If I recall correctly, it’s the right side of the face. They’ll have a scar. And their eyes will be slightly twisted.

And what happens is... And I’ll explain that. As part of putting a chip in the back of their heads, they end up losing the vision in one eye. But the chip gives them certain super powers which are... photographic memory being one of them. And that’s more advantageous to their handlers than the eye is...

Ricardo Silva: Illuminati activities and high strangeness
http://www.projectcamelot.org/ricardo_silva.html

[armoured_amazon]

Just a little smth on a celebrity's Illuminati ties:

LOL Lemmy; I bet Lizzy's horrified. :D

[emerald]

http://www.celebitchy.com/66789/angelina_jolie_brad_pitt_encourage_3-year-old_shilohs_acting_dreams/

Another Monarch baby...:(

Angelina Jolie & Brad Pitt encourage 3-year-old Shiloh’s acting dreams

When Shiloh Jolie-Pitt isn’t busy single-handedly rescuing a village of children in Nambia, it seems the three-year-old is dreaming of becoming an actress. The Enquirer is reporting that Shiloh has started telling everyone that she wants to do “what mommy and daddy do” and that Angelina and Brad are encouraging her. Shiloh’s first gig was in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, with her dad, and for now, Brad and Angelina want Shiloh to only work in their projects. They’re even considering enrolling her into a performing arts school:

[Three-year-old Shiloh] has already caught the acting bug - and has the full support of her movie star parents.

“Shiloh’s the product of the two best-looking actors in the world - she was custom-made to be in the movies,” enthused a longtime friend of the couple. “Her parents are already grooming her to be an actress. Brad and Angie were skeptical when Shiloh first started telling friends and family, ‘I want to do what mommy and daddy do.’ But they made a vow a while ago that they’d let each one of their six kids pursue their dreams and would encourage them to follow their passions.”

Asked at the LA premiere of Inglourious Basterds if they’d permit their children to follow in their footsteps as actors, Angelina promised she and Brad would “support” their youngsters’ career ambitions.

[Shiloh] made her big-screen debut in papa Pitt’s 2008 flick, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. And she’s already receiving a steady stream of movie, TV and commercial offers.

“At first, Brad and Angie laughed off the interest, but as she’s grown older, they haven’t been able to help but notice how Shi constantly poses in the mirror and puts on her own mini-plays,” said the friend.

“As a result, they’re looking into getting her an acting coach, and they’ve decided to ease her into the film world by first securing her small roles in their own pictures. They’re even batting around the idea of putting Shi in a performing arts school program.”

Although Shiloh is a natural ham, her siblings don’t yet appear to share her fascination, say sources. When Angelina was filming Salt in NY this past spring, Shiloh pestered Brad about going to the set.

“When she got her wish to see her mom work, Shiloh sat in her own director’s chair - eyes glued to all the behind-the-scenes action,” confided the friend.

Concluded the friend: “Shiloh was born to be a star, and her folks are doing their best to give her an early start on her dream.”

[From the National Enquirer, print edition, August 31 2009]

[faulconandsnowjob]

“Shiloh was born to be a star..."
Maybe born. Maybe manufactured.

[lostworld]

Was 'The black' Michael Jackson the same one as 'the white' Michael Jackson? Could he have been cloned/ replaced around 1984? ( I think he was cloned around the Pepsi hair burning incident time).
Anyway, its about the heights.


Hi Jo 6 and very welcome to Stepford :)

Thanks for your very interesting posts.

Especially this one about MJ. It does raise some serious questions indeed... :rolleyes:


Absolutely agree, this is another source:

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/33424

Thanks for adding that link about it too, Emerald :)

[lostworld]

Megan, the transformer

You know that we've been posting about this earlier, that Megan Fox might be a synthetic. There's just something odd about her IMO.

Anyway, I found these photos that show us her transformation a little bit more...

Question: Is she for real? If there was an original Megan Fox, was she replaced by this person/synthetic OR is it just plastic surgery we're looking at? She certainly wasn't this perfect before.


Megan, before and after
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7169/mf1u.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1827/meganfoxbeforeaftersurg.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/918/mf4t.jpghttp://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9185/89810201.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/554/meganfox1024x768.jpghttp://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8629/300meganfoxgqmoy111908.jpg



New nose, lips and boobs. New darker colour for hair & brows. Extensions.
Skin perfecting treatments. Botox/fillers (she's 23!). Her smile/teeth looks different too.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1150/meganfoxplasticsurgery.jpg
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1827/meganfoxbeforeaftersurg.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1919/meganfoxnosejob.jpg

[lostworld]

More Megan


Sex kitten (cat/fur/dehumanisation)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1076/meganfox005.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6078/meganfoxnaked471x329000.jpg


We will all laugh at gilded butterflies...
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9274/meganfox1kmm.jpg


Marilynized, incl. Marilyn tattoo
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2159/88977294f.jpghttp://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2720/meganfoxgq11e.jpghttp://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6325/freeonlinegamesforkids2.jpg


Mirror symbolism (alter/duality/mindcontrol)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6500/meganfoxkissmirrorm.jpg


Dead eyes, the robotoid stare :eek:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6967/562af28dfe7819d6.jpg

[lostworld]

Megan in pics with pedophilia theme. The sexualized child playing with her furry toys in bed...


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5268/100sexiestwinnermeganfo.jpg


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9229/meganfox001796230.jpg



Notice what the text to "the child" says: ”I have the libido of a 15-year-old boy - my sex drive is so high"
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/692/mf6x.png

[zhenshanren]

I can't get over that Megan Fox character... It's an amazing difference from those old pictures of a girl to the new creature. It doesn't resemble anything of how a person would naturally age or change. The changes in the eyes are like something I have never seen either! Crazy.

[emerald]

These 2 fellow kabbalists... Masonery has 33 degrees, btw:D

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1208502/Copycat-Gwyneth-follows-Madonnas-footsteps-33-room-superhouse.html

[emerald]

"Altering" MEGAN in a photoshoot before her sudden rise to stardom:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9625/megancolors5.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/megancolors5.jpg/)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/852/megancolors6.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/megancolors6.jpg/)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8872/megancolors7.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/megancolors7.jpg/)


Article dated August 2008 on laineygossip.com

"Which emerging starlet working on a high profile project supposedly did something to her face, particularly her lips, that didn’t go over so well with her directors and producers? This, combined with her sh*tty attitude, has led to a temporary dismissal. She’s been told to get off the set for a week and straighten herself out…and to hopefully come back with her features restored. If it’s possible, that is.

Worse still – a few of her scenes have now been rewritten for her female co-star. So she’s losing respect AND air time. It’s the air time that hurts the most."

[emerald]

Starry SIENNA MILLER

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8521/millersienna431x400.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/millersienna431x400.jpg/)

[mountain]

"Altering" MEGAN in a photoshoot before her sudden rise to stardom:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9625/megancolors5.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/megancolors5.jpg/)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/852/megancolors6.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/megancolors6.jpg/)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8872/megancolors7.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/megancolors7.jpg/)


Article dated August 2008 on laineygossip.com

"Which emerging starlet working on a high profile project supposedly did something to her face, particularly her lips, that didn’t go over so well with her directors and producers? This, combined with her sh*tty attitude, has led to a temporary dismissal. She’s been told to get off the set for a week and straighten herself out…and to hopefully come back with her features restored. If it’s possible, that is.

Worse still – a few of her scenes have now been rewritten for her female co-star. So she’s losing respect AND air time. It’s the air time that hurts the most."

Not trying to sound mean but she looks hungry ! :o

[emerald]

Not trying to sound mean but she looks hungry ! :o

Lol, hungry for fame mabe...

[skyver]

Sorry to go slightly off track, but earlier someone posted Re these matters a link : Forbidden Knowledge (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/springmeier_interview2.htm)



Fritz Springmeier:
When people have a moral belief system, Buddhist or whatever, if it's a very strong belife system, it's hard to change them. What they are trying to do is fragment our belief system. They have brought in a lot of foreign belief systems into the USA but you also have all of these New Age gurus popping up and creating their own little New Age groups. In the bigger picture, it's to destroy the fabric of a unified moral response, and a lot of these New Age leaders (eg. Elizabeth Claire Prophet - Church Universal and Triumphant) are mind controlled slaves. Jay Z. Knight, that's who she goes by - the entity she channels - she's a mind control slave. These are New Age leaders and they are gathering flocks. One of the gals who became a friend of mine who left the C.U.T. and became a Christian, in having worked with her, I noticed some red flags that maybe she, as one of the leaders of Elizabeth Claire Prophet's group, was a mind control victim, and she's not the only evidence I have that not only are the leaders under mind control who start the groups, but part of their flocks are mind control victims who are being programmed to join these cults.
Imagine if you are a religious leader and you get secret help from the establishment and you have people being programmed to join your organization, how that gives you an edge over you or I starting a religion. So that's one reason why we have such a chaotic religious atmosphere out there where all of these gurus and religious leaders are starting all these small weird groups.



Do you see the bit about Jay Z ? Either I'm reading this wrong, as in an entity called "Jay Z Knight" channels through her or what?

Please if someone reading this knows could they explain, as what with this stepford wife syndrome & The pop/hip hop/film culture drenched in Illuminati brainwashing it would help as one more piece of the enormous puzzled.

[emerald]

JZ KNIGHT, lol... JUDY ZEBRA KNIGHT, born in Roswell, New Mexico. Any comments needed? Oh, and she's a better version of the monstruous JOCELYN WILDENSTEIN...

[emerald]

MILLA, one eyed pyramid and others

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6339/000000045235millajovovi.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/000000045235millajovovi.jpg/)

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/51/000000045252millajovovi.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/000000045252millajovovi.jpg/)

[skyver]

Thanks, emerald! I think I need a little rest from all that i've been reading up on! You can see why people have such a hard time accepting what is going on. It is so monstrously sick, that people can't believe that it is actually a movement/cult of sorts.

[engelsblume]

Someone should seriously team up with that guy from pseudo occult media blog and publish all of this. If other conspiracy theorists found their publishers, I'm sure one can be found for this as well. Hm wait, is there maybe a similar book already out? Cuz if so, please give me the info on it.

[lostworld]

Someone should seriously team up with that guy from pseudo occult media blog and publish all of this. If other conspiracy theorists found their publishers, I'm sure one can be found for this as well. Hm wait, is there maybe a similar book already out? Cuz if so, please give me the info on it.

You're absolutely right Engelsblume. Some of us have been discussing on perhaps trying to write a book about this. :) It would be great to get the info out there.

[lostworld]

Human or not?

Megan Fox

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8606/88483395.jpghttp://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4764/88483571.jpghttp://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2685/88484140.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7533/88483584.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4198/88484136.jpghttp://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5008/88484083.jpg

[emerald]

Human or not?

Megan Fox

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8606/88483395.jpghttp://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4764/88483571.jpghttp://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2685/88484140.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7533/88483584.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4198/88484136.jpghttp://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5008/88484083.jpg

Honestly I dont know whatta say, still I tend to think its another case of MK. Original/human being but under hard mind control, as requested. And a bit surgically modified... Dont shoot the messenger:D!

[lostworld]

Honestly I dont know whatta say, still I tend to think its another case of MK. Original/human being but under hard mind control, as requested. And a bit surgically modified... Dont shoot the messenger:D!

No, no, you're safe (for now) :D :p

Sabrina on Doppelgangers http://doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=117 had this to say about it:

At the facial transformations, doesn't even look like the same girl! I can't even tell exactly what they did to her!

And again, it shows how expert their methods are now. Such a profound facial transformation and no scars, no nerve damage....Yet other celebs have scarring and so on. Priscilla Presley being an example.

Someone really wanted the perfect 'speciman' with Megan.

And again I ask, why her?

She was a pretty average looking chick before all the changes. There must be something ELSE special about her that we can't see. Either she is a "hat"
http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/09/reincarnated-woman-sues-hefner-for-3-billion/6, or a synthetic and they enjoy showing off their workmanship which is why she's pushed so hard on the public.."


Very interesting observation. Some end up totally butchered (and they might not have done THAT many operations after all) and some has "everything" changed like Megan and look perfect...?
Something's up.

The Elite loves to show their symbolism and MK'd stars (they really rub it in our faces) so it makes perfect sense that they would like to front a perfected synthetic all they can, maybe that's why she has all that success now... :rolleyes:


Megan, before and after
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4696/megang.jpghttp://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7605/meganfox2.jpg

[greydove]

Explains a lot....

Mulholland Drive (2001) - Trailer - YouTube

[wildhorse]

yes Megan Fox...mentioned her before. My my, in that 1st comparison she doesnt even look like the posing, sulky, snooty perfectly turned out creature she is today. I have seen better looking lasses down the town. She has had her nose/lips/breasts done, but the eyebrows have grew back thicker. Anyone else get eyebrows to grow back thicker and more symetrical after you plucked them within an inch of their life? No. So thats false brows and lash extensions and hair extensions.

Still all of that doesnt count for the smiles and life in her eyes she had before, and now she has that cold hoity "look at me, Im considerably more stunning & perfect than you" look. Shes vacant of any warmth or natural spontieity...just upright and positioned for full physically beatiful effct.... how utterly boring and vapid. YAWN.

If shes not a roid, she may as well be one imo...guys may be fooled and want to still giver her one, but I guess its a step up from them 'realistic' dolls that are made for a hefty price tag.

http://www.hawaiilacrosse.com/pligg/i/Real%20Doll.jpg

Megans prototype??

[dawnismygoddess]

IMHO, Megan Fox is just plain gross.

[emerald]

yes Megan Fox...mentioned her before. My my, in that 1st comparison she doesnt even look like the posing, sulky, snooty perfectly turned out creature she is today. I have seen better looking lasses down the town. She has had her nose/lips/breasts done, but the eyebrows have grew back thicker. Anyone else get eyebrows to grow back thicker and more symetrical after you plucked them within an inch of their life? No. So thats false brows and lash extensions and hair extensions.

Still all of that doesnt count for the smiles and life in her eyes she had before, and now she has that cold hoity "look at me, Im considerably more stunning & perfect than you" look. Shes vacant of any warmth or natural spontieity...just upright and positioned for full physically beatiful effct.... how utterly boring and vapid. YAWN.

If shes not a roid, she may as well be one imo...guys may be fooled and want to still giver her one, but I guess its a step up from them 'realistic' dolls that are made for a hefty price tag.

http://www.hawaiilacrosse.com/pligg/i/Real%20Doll.jpg

Megans prototype??



:D I think its a Japanese "lady" this one...

[jo_6]

Megan Fox teenage years. She certainly had big teeth!
I think she's been very mind control programmed and had a lot of surgery. She's defo a strange one. The eyes are not there now, like she's been hypnotised. I think she let herself be used as she was desperate for fame and attention, so has effectively allowed them to programme her.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2009/05/0504_megan_fox_wm_0005_meganfox3_full.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2009/05/0504_megan_fox_wm_0004_meganfox4_full.jpg
http://http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2009/05/0504_megan_fox_wm_0001_meganfox7_full.jpg
http://http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2009/05/0504_megan_fox_wm_0005_meganfox3_full.jpg
http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/fox4-226x300.jpg
http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/fox5.jpg

[emerald]

MELANIE GRIFFITH does it again:

Star magazine has chatted with the publicist for actress, Melanie Griffith. Robin Baum tells the tabloid, "This is part of a routine plan that was designed between her and her doctors years ago."

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2009/08/24/melanie-griffith-enters-rehab-shocks-no-one/

[engelsblume]

I'd like to know whether there are any weird suspicious pics of oprah. A few ppl just mentioned her as someone who controls everything but never any pics. Are there any? Any evidence at all?

[astrochicken]

Zooey Deschanel & Katy Perry
http://a.imagehost.org/0589/astroc_zoey_perry.jpg

Helena Christensen & Cameron Diaz

http://a.imagehost.org/0789/astroc_helenacameron.jpg

[siphon880di]

MELANIE GRIFFITH does it again:

Star magazine has chatted with the publicist for actress, Melanie Griffith. Robin Baum tells the tabloid, "This is part of a routine plan that was designed between her and her doctors years ago."

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2009/08/24/melanie-griffith-enters-rehab-shocks-no-one/

I think Oprah is another type of puppet/glove. It's hard to explain. Watch this short video:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[emerald]

CARIDEE ENGLISH (AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL 2006 winner) vs. HEIDI PRATT vs. RACHEL HUNTER

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2060/carideeenglishheidimont.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/i/carideeenglishheidimont.jpg/)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9615/00000491942008061017352.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/i/00000491942008061017352.jpg/)

More of CARIDEE

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7630/500fullcarideeenglish.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/i/500fullcarideeenglish.jpg/)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1917/000000080907carideeengl.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/000000080907carideeengl.jpg/)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5851/caridee5.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/caridee5.jpg/)

Together with her bf + the must, butterfly tattoo

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8264/carideebf1.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/carideebf1.jpg/)


With RACHEL HUNTER. Two kinda kitties.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4493/rachelhunter.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/rachelhunter.jpg/)

With AUBREY O'DAY. Check AUBREY's expression...

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9816/richierichbackstagefall.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/i/richierichbackstagefall.jpg/)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2830/carideeenglish.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/carideeenglish.jpg/)

[emerald]

ADRIENNE CURRY, winner of the 1st AMERICA'S NEXT TOP SHIT

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6184/adriannecurry.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/adriannecurry.jpg/)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1512/571514648.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/571514648.jpg/)

Other pics of ANTM contestants:

TYRA the goddess

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2032/antmc.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/antmc.jpg/)

Damm creepy this one

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4337/antmjenah02mikerosentha.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/i/antmjenah02mikerosentha.jpg/)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3545/antmo.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/antmo.jpg/)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7031/cwantm11laurenbrieconta.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/i/cwantm11laurenbrieconta.jpg/)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4696/danielle2.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/i/danielle2.jpg/)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8512/evapigford.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/i/evapigford.jpg/)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6590/jaslene1.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/i/jaslene1.jpg/)

To be continued..

[emerald]

Back!

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[lostworld]

ADRIENNE CURRY, winner of the 1st AMERICA'S NEXT TOP SHIT

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6184/adriannecurry.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/adriannecurry.jpg/)


Other pics of ANTM contestants:



Yeah, you probably know that I've posted a lot from ANTM in this thread before, even some of these pics :p
ANTM is totally corrupt and filled with symbolism!

But it was interesting when you focused on some of the specific models, like Carrie Dee, Adrienne etc. :)

[engelsblume]

I think Oprah is another type of puppet/glove. It's hard to explain. Watch this short video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-fhFk89Cs

Wow thanks for the vid. This reminds me of kristen stewart now. I remember some fans being in italy during the taping of new moon and they said when she was "getting into character" she kinda isolated herself from the group and started twisting a bit and making weird sounds. Naturally they just thought she was a really dedicated and talented actress. Guess she was emptying herself. :eek:

[engelsblume]

Well this is just sad. I keep thinking not everyone is involved and then I thought of paramore and googled this pic. :(

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/LMoondancer/brandneweyesart460_std.jpg

[siphon880di]

Wow thanks for the vid. This reminds me of kristen stewart now. I remember some fans being in italy during the taping of new moon and they said when she was "getting into character" she kinda isolated herself from the group and started twisting a bit and making weird sounds. Naturally they just thought she was a really dedicated and talented actress. Guess she was emptying herself. :eek:

It would be great if this was caught on tape and put online :(
Her emptying the body out for performing.

[engelsblume]

It would be great if this was caught on tape and put online
Her emptying the body out for performing.

Definitely. But this thread really is amazing. So many things I read here remind me of something strange I heard before and then it finally makes sense!

[siphon880di]

Definitely. But this thread really is amazing. So many things I read here remind me of something strange I heard before and then it finally makes sense!

I just realize it depends on the degree of her twisting around and making weird sounds. She could have just been letting her body lose and doing vocal warmups. I researched and found that many acting schools of thought is oppose to body tension.

[engelsblume]

I just realize it depends on the degree of her twisting around and making weird sounds. She could have just been letting her body lose and doing vocal warmups. I researched and found that many acting schools of thought is oppose to body tension.

True. I mean we weren't there so it's all speculation. But since she does have all those suspicious pics earlier in this thread, I personally tend to now go with the emptying.

[emerald]

Yeah, you probably know that I've posted a lot from ANTM in this thread before, even some of these pics :p
ANTM is totally corrupt and filled with symbolism!

But it was interesting when you focused on some of the specific models, like Carrie Dee, Adrienne etc. :)

Yes, I remember u did, but cant keep account of all the pics posted here...

[emerald]

Anyway, whats happening to JESSICA LANGE's face? Is she still herself, even surgically changed - as much as "self" can exist in Hollywood - or...?

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5559/89361875.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/i/89361875.jpg/)

JESS and intertwined swastikas

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3294/400jlange090318arodrigu.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/400jlange090318arodrigu.jpg/)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9463/200904omagjessicalange2.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/i/200904omagjessicalange2.jpg/)

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7955/jessicalange7.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/jessicalange7.jpg/)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6056/jessicalange88.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/i/jessicalange88.jpg/)

[engelsblume]

Well I think we pretty much established that the only good people in Hollywood are dead so if this lady has a pulse, it's self explanatory. :D

[armoured_amazon]

Well I think we pretty much established that the only good people in Hollywood are dead so if this lady has a pulse, it's self explanatory. :D

Hehehe :D

[lostworld]

Anyway, whats happening to JESSICA LANGE's face? Is she still herself, even surgically changed - as much as "self" can exist in Hollywood - or...?

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5559/89361875.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/i/89361875.jpg/)



Jessica Lange is now 60 years old (born 1949) so aging is of course a factor here.

HOWEVER, I think her aging happened very rapidly, just like with Mel Gibson, Kathleen Turner etc. That may indicate that something's not quite right here... :rolleyes: Her face looks odd to me.

[emerald]

Sure I know she's just turned 60 in April, but this doesnt chase away the weirdness of her face:D

[lostworld]

Sure I know she's just turned 60 in April, but this doesnt chase away the weirdness of hee face:D

My point exactly :)

[americana]

Jessica Lange is now 60 years old (born 1949) so aging is of course a factor here.

HOWEVER, I think her aging happened very rapidly, just like with Mel Gibson, Kathleen Turner etc. That may indicate that something's not quite right here... :rolleyes: Her face looks odd to me.

Brow lift, eye lift (cat's eye effect, not quite Wildenstein, but gettin' there), perhaps botox, chemical peels all in an odd mixture with typical signs of age.

[xeon]

Megan Fox is the most highly searched female in the world in Google, Yahoo, etc. Ever.

She has far, far eclipsed Britney and Paris even at the height of their popularity. If she was meant to be a showcase of Illuminati workmanship, they have succeeded madly.

[armoured_amazon]

Megan Fox is the most highly searched female in the world in Google, Yahoo, etc. Ever.

She has far, far eclipsed Britney and Paris even at the height of their popularity. If she was meant to be a showcase of Illuminati workmanship, they have succeeded madly.

I don't even know what she does. I assume she's an actress, but can't recall seeing her in anything...

:confused:

[xeon]

I don't even know what she does. I assume she's an actress, but can't recall seeing her in anything...

:confused:

Neither do I remember her anywhere. But currently, based on search trends, an estimated 70,000-100,000 people search up on her EVERY DAY.

I cannot understand the fuss over Megan Fox.

[engelsblume]

I'm officially OBSESSED with this thread cuz I just went throught the whole darn thing AGAIN! :D But ok to be honest it was just to save all the pics cuz I'm gonna make a scrapbook with explanations and gonna try show my friends.

So keep those pics comin'! :p

btw while going through the thread I was reminded some of you here have a german fetish, right? Well count me in, ladies! :D

[clint_giles]

Didn't a sex tape come out with her at one point and it was discovered that she had both male and female sex organs?

yes ..with sean waltman aka ...kid something

her clitorous is a small penis much like all hermaphrodites.

[greydove]

LaFee (the fairy)

Lafee- Wer Bin Ich/ Who Am I / Tell Me Why W/Lyrics - YouTube

[armoured_amazon]

I'm officially OBSESSED with this thread cuz I just went throught the whole darn thing AGAIN! :D But ok to be honest it was just to save all the pics cuz I'm gonna make a scrapbook with explanations and gonna try show my friends.

So keep those pics comin'! :p

btw while going through the thread I was reminded some of you here have a german fetish, right? Well count me in, ladies! :D

LOL! Our numbers are growing,Germans rock! :D

Can't believe you went all the way through the thread again - it must have taken you ages!

[lostworld]

I'm officially OBSESSED with this thread cuz I just went throught the whole darn thing AGAIN! :D But ok to be honest it was just to save all the pics cuz I'm gonna make a scrapbook with explanations and gonna try show my friends.

So keep those pics comin'! :p

btw while going through the thread I was reminded some of you here have a german fetish, right? Well count me in, ladies! :D

I'm very impressed with you :) You went through it again...??? Wow.
But pics are always good, that way you can show that it's a pattern with the symbolism etc.

So, the German connection expands it seems... Welcome to the club! :) :p

[lostworld]

I don't even know what she does. I assume she's an actress, but can't recall seeing her in anything...

:confused:

She's an actress. She had her breaktrough in the movie "Transformers" in 2007. That's why I called my post "Megan, the transformer" - due to her physical changes and as a ;) to her movie...

[armoured_amazon]

She's an actress. She had her breaktrough in the movie "Transformers" in 2007. That's why I called my post "Megan, the transformer" - due to her physical changes and as a ;) to her movie...

Ah, I haven't seen that. :)

[lostworld]

Ah, I haven't seen that. :)

I haven't seen the movie either, but the name of it is enough for me... :D

[clint_giles]

WTF!?!!?!

That is blatant.

agreed..

[clint_giles]

Three of a kind: ELIZA DUSHKU, JAMIE LYNN SIGLER, S.M. GELLAR:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9757/dushku05.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/dushku05.jpg/)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8482/jamielynnsigler01.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/jamielynnsigler01.jpg/)

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6934/sarahmichellegellar.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/i/sarahmichellegellar.jpg/)


eliza is absolutely easy on my eyes.

[chrysoprase]

Well, I am half-way through this thread and cannot stop reading! I just wanted to add a couple of random thoughts before I do a spontaneous combustion:

There is something here that reminded me of a book I read years ago called "Michelle Remembers" about a woman who was raised in a satanic culture. There seem to be many similarities between illuminati and satanists. When Michelle was a child she was kept in a basement (somewhere in Vancouver) with other children. They were tortured in various ways, one way was that they would be "put under" and when they woke up they had stitches around their legs, arms etc.

They were told that their legs, etc. had been switched with the other childrens. The point being was to make them feel that they were not themselves - to disassociate and split.

In regards to Michael Jackson - I have two thoughts; one is that something significant happened to him when he was burned in the Pepsi commercial, that was the last time he seemed like himself. Replacement? Or was surgery performed on him while recuperating? Because he looked very different to me the next time he was seen. I wonder if the fire was caused intentionally with hair product. Watching the video it seemed like it took to long for anyone to come to his aid.

Berry Gordie said something very strange at Jackson's memorial: "what boy wouldn't give his arm to achieve his wildest dreams". It was strange because it did not really fit in with what he was saying - he just kind of threw that out there (and at that time I was wondering if Jackson was a castrato - so it kind of blew me away that he said that).

In regards to Lisa "left eye" Lopez - I watched the documentary of her awhile ago. Right before she crashed the car (it was all on being taped by one of her passengers) she seemed to be in a trance. Also, a night (or two) before the crash she related a dream that she had where the sun was getting bigger and bigger as if it would consume her. Illumination?

And, finally, somewhere around the 200 page mark, someone (Lostworld?) made a brief mention about sexuality being programmed. Now, maybe I am just a cranky spinster, but it has been 15 years or so that I really started noticing women not acting "right" IMO. That is (and my friends included) they were acting like they needed sex and that is was fashionable to be horny and all that.

I believed then, and still do, that alot of this is the media brainwashing women that they need to act like this. (when really it is not in their best interests to do so). Besides, men will pursue you (if attracted to you) whether you behave like a nympho or not. I now openly declare that I have no interest in sex. And you know who I get flack from? Other women!!!

I also wonder about the need for fame that seems to grip so many people. Is this need a part of the brainwashing and an easy way to collect souls (so to speak). If you make someone want something and then tell them how they can get it - you have control.

I have often wondered about people selling their souls for fame/money. I left Los Angeles in the early 90's because everyone was obsessed with fame/sex/money. After reading this thread; I am shaken to think the lengths that people will go to. It must start (or so it seems) with a lack of belief in oneself or one's own core and destiny and path. Which bring me back to the disassociation...

I know it boggles my mind, and that is why I cannot stop reading until I catch up! There are many cases of just plain bad plastic surgery and botox gone wrong; but isn't it convenient that one can always point to that now? Why do so many celebrities seem to be scrubbed of their previous personality? Is it all PR and growing up? Sometimes yes, but sometimes NO.

Sorry for the long post but my mind is reeling and I have so much to say! I hope to return with some more specific observations about certain celebrities and keep my ramblings more on point.

Anyways, keep up the good work! The truth is out there and it is stranger than we know.

[guivre]

Anyway, whats happening to JESSICA LANGE's face? Is she still herself, even surgically changed - as much as "self" can exist in Hollywood - or...?


That's interesting, since she used to garner some respect in Hollywood as someone who hadn't had work done.

[chrysoprase]

I think Jessica Lange might look strange to some, because we are not that used to seeing someone whom we've known on the big screen (particularly women) get old all of a sudden.

And when menopause hits, it can seem like all of a sudden. So you can either hide out, get surgery, or do a little of both. Anyways, I applaud Jessica Lange, Dianne Weist and the others who are keeping it real.:)

Although I am fascinated by this thread; there has been a picture here or there where I just think "it's called getting old, y'all!" "someday you'll see!";)

Having said that, I will sometime vainly compare myself with a celebrity who has lived through the past 20 (or more) years just like myself and wonder why I don't look that old. :o I suppose it is a really stressful life. But am also intrigued by the fact that clones age rapidly. Isn't that why the meat industry likes cloned cows? The quickened growth factor makes them ready for the market alot sooner than real cows. But you cannot slow down that growth factor = get old rapidly.

Julia Ormond? That one really gets me. She does not seem like the same person - at all. Where is the real Julia? I liked her performances. Did she do something wrong?:(

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but "The Invasion" with Nicole Kidman is a movie relevant to this thread. Watch it if you haven't already. Scary stuff showing the importance of not having emotions in order to fit in to the agenda.:eek::eek:


From way back in this thread:

Falling in love and mind-control, I mean the whole -falling in love thing- is chemical anyway
(who has been in love even once knows about the silyness, the 'almost' worship and the not being able
to think straight at all or see someone in their true light, well, I've had my share in the past :-)


I think it is possible for people to be manipulated into "loving" their intended handlers. As mentioned before - Sting, Lennon, etc.

And - not that I think I was intended to be handled; but I am thinking about a book given to me in the early 1980's called "Watch Your Dreams" by Ann Rae Colton. When I first got the book I read it cover to cover. Since that time for nearly 30 years, that book has found it's way to my coffee table every week at least. I have very vivid dreams and it has such comprehensive definitions of symbols, grouped in chapters, such as: Trees, Colors, Animals, Gemstones, Physical Body Parts, Food, etc.

So why do I bring this book up? Because I recently looked beyond the chapters that have the definitions and relooked at the rest of the book - the first time in over 25 years.

The book lists "intercessory beings" and their symbols. Along with the archangels, jesus, the saints, are the following: Illuminati, The Great Immortals or Inward Masters, Master M, Master Serapis, Master K.H. and other teachers and "sacred gurus". At this time I did not know who these beings were, and was never interested enough pursue that section of the book.

So, going back to the quote above, a couple of years ago I had a dream of a man (many years younger than me). A voice boomed overhead and said with great authority "This is Your Soul Mate!

I laughed because he was so young, but I said I'll take him. (He was cute). I never forgot his face and 2 years later I met him. He broke my heart and was a total cad to say the least. Some really disgusting stuff, that at first I always made excuses for because he was my soul mate.

Part of me wants to think that he was indeed my soul mate, but just not the variety that I was expecting. I was meant to learn from him what not to accept.

But another part wonders if the illuminati (or whomever) can infiltrate my dreams to screw with me. Especially since I have loved this book. I always make sure to pray every night now and ask for God's guidance, and not to be led astray. But still I have some intense dreams and I am sometimes not sure if I am being tricked with.:o

So, getting back to celebrities, my first reaction to all this stepfording is that they must be complicit in this (initially) and that it couldn't happen unless they were approached with an offer that they accepted - or if they themselves summoned the dark side in order to make a deal.

But from my own experience, I think some really do not know what they are getting themselves into. Especially if they are young and dumb. The dark side can and will deceive and lie.

So I will try to wrap up another lengthy post with this observation about Robert Plant. I believed that he had made a deal for fame; and that he later came to regret it (especially after the death of his daughter in a car crash). But as the lyrics to one of his songs says: There is no turning back. Not sure what song that was but I remember the video and there was a white feather floating in the video of this song.

According to "Watch your Dreams" a white feather signifies "sacrifice".

I guess that is not really Stepford or mind control. Sorry about that, I am going to have to poke around some of the other threads here; but this is my favorite.:confused:

Oops, one more thing. Somewhere in this thread Lucy Liu was quoted about a spirit that had sex with her. This totally freaks me out. When I was in my twenties, there were a few times that a spirit tried to have sex with me and I knew (no doubt in my mind) that it was demonic. Don't have sex with spirits people! It is not worth it. That is how they get inside of you!! That, in itself, I believe is making a deal!:eek:

[armoured_amazon]

Welcome to the discussion, Chrysoprase. Lots of interesting points and much I want to comment on, but I'm just off to bed. :)

[engelsblume]

LOL! Our numbers are growing,Germans rock! :D

Yes they do! :D

So, the German connection expands it seems... Welcome to the club! :) :p

Thank you! :p


There is something here that reminded me of a book I read years ago called "Michelle Remembers" about a woman who was raised in a satanic culture. There seem to be many similarities between illuminati and satanists. When Michelle was a child she was kept in a basement (somewhere in Vancouver) with other children. They were tortured in various ways, one way was that they would be "put under" and when they woke up they had stitches around their legs, arms etc.

They were told that their legs, etc. had been switched with the other childrens. The point being was to make them feel that they were not themselves - to disassociate and split.

WOW! that's interesting! :eek:


I now openly declare that I have no interest in sex. And you know who I get flack from? Other women!!!

Yeah if you're not a nympho nowadays something's def not right with you. I'm the same...like a vestal in a way...and I'm the biggest weirdo ever in their eyes :D

I did notice myself respond to programming after watching those mtv reality shows like "I love money" or "charm school"....I always have this intense need to go get all dolled up after seeing all those flaw free women. Needless to say I don't watch mtv shows anymore.

[armoured_amazon]

Grrr, I didn't get to bed...I went to brew coffee and catch up on my watched threads here and now I'm wide awake. :o

[engelsblume]

Grrr, I didn't get to bed...I went to brew coffee and catch up on my watched threads here and now I'm wide awake. :o

Now you know how I can go twice through this whole thread. It's addictive as hell. :p

[armoured_amazon]

Now you know how I can go twice through this whole thread. It's addictive as hell. :p

Haha, it is. I think I'm going to go through this thread next week, and the ones on Denver Airport.

:)

[siphon880di]

Anyone interested in working with me to make a youtube video series out of this?

[emerald]

LILY ALLEN's other tattoos

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/258/article1209465063313800.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/article1209465063313800.jpg/)

Hint to ALICE IN WONDERLAND part of programming mabe? Our lovely MEGAN FOX on the cover of WONDERLAND magazine

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6153/meganfoxcover3.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/meganfoxcover3.jpg/)

COURTNEY LOVE...

Fairy tattoo

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5659/courtneylove1.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/courtneylove1.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4949/courtneylove2.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/courtneylove2.jpg/)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7467/courtneylove20060404119.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/courtneylove20060404119.jpg/)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1010/courtneylove20071006321.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/courtneylove20071006321.jpg/)

Rag doll

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3356/courtneyloveprophetprof.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/courtneyloveprophetprof.jpg/)


Her dolls, even in concerts

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3904/l75852ce971a12bf7e62b44.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/l75852ce971a12bf7e62b44.jpg/)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7162/courtneylove20060902157.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/courtneylove20060902157.jpg/)

[lostworld]

Anyone interested in working with me to make a youtube video series out of this?

Sure Siphon :)
I can help you with whatever material you need, from my own posts etc. However I don't have the skills in technology so you or somebody else would have to to "put it together".

[lostworld]

Well, I am half-way through this thread and cannot stop reading! I just wanted to add a couple of random thoughts before I do a spontaneous combustion:

Hi Chrysoprase,
and very welcome to Stepford! :)
I'm very glad that you're taking the time to go through this whole thread.

There is something here that reminded me of a book I read years ago called "Michelle Remembers" about a woman who was raised in a satanic culture. There seem to be many similarities between illuminati and satanists.

Of course. If we should believe what we've found in our research the Elite is more or less satanic, Lucifierian worshippers with satanic practices.


In regards to Michael Jackson - I have two thoughts; one is that something significant happened to him when he was burned in the Pepsi commercial, that was the last time he seemed like himself. Replacement? Or was surgery performed on him while recuperating? Because he looked very different to me the next time he was seen. I wonder if the fire was caused intentionally with hair product. Watching the video it seemed like it took to long for anyone to come to his aid.

I think that something happened in 1984. He looked different after that. Then he looked different again in 1987 (the Bad album) and new changes followed...
WHAT exactly that was done is another thing... :rolleyes:


In regards to Lisa "left eye" Lopez - I watched the documentary of her awhile ago. Right before she crashed the car (it was all on being taped by one of her passengers) she seemed to be in a trance. Also, a night (or two) before the crash she related a dream that she had where the sun was getting bigger and bigger as if it would consume her. Illumination?

I haven't seen that documentary... Sounds very interesting. Was there a tape from right before the crash do you mean?

And, finally, somewhere around the 200 page mark, someone (Lostworld?) made a brief mention about sexuality being programmed. Now, maybe I am just a cranky spinster, but it has been 15 years or so that I really started noticing women not acting "right" IMO. That is (and my friends included) they were acting like they needed sex and that is was fashionable to be horny and all that.

I believed then, and still do, that alot of this is the media brainwashing women that they need to act like this.

Yes, sexuality can be programmed according to what I've found during my research... it makes sense to when you see programmed Anne Heche change her sexuality "just like that". Cynthia Nixon is another that comes to mind.

Then there is the "mass programming" of young women through media. Very obvious IMO and very dangerous.
People in general are getting more and more stupid, compared to the awareness in the 70's etc. Now it's just all about sex, money, clothes and fame. :(
At the same time there's great awakening too :)
But the sheeple is getting worse & more superficial than ever.


I also wonder about the need for fame that seems to grip so many people. Is this need a part of the brainwashing and an easy way to collect souls (so to speak). If you make someone want something and then tell them how they can get it - you have control.

Oh definately. I think you're very right about this. People weren't this desperate for fame before... it has exploded at the same time as media changed. No coincidence IMO. People who are just into being famous don't think right, they are focused on the wrong thing - they are often selfish and egoistic people too. Of course they will be attractive to the evil forces and - for sure - what the Elite can offer will be attractive to them... A "win win situation". When/if they wake up it's too late...


There are many cases of just plain bad plastic surgery and botox gone wrong; but isn't it convenient that one can always point to that now? Why do so many celebrities seem to be scrubbed of their previous personality? Is it all PR and growing up? Sometimes yes, but sometimes NO..

Yes, it's very convenient to always blame plastic surgery for every face & body that goes through dramatic changes...
Mind control and replacements are real. But of course it's good to have a cover story... And don't forget how some people who go through plastic surgery looks like "freaks" almost instantly and then we have these perfect cases, like Megan Fox. They DO have the technology to make it perfect, why wouldn't they use it on anybody?? :rolleyes:


Anyways, keep up the good work! The truth is out there and it is stranger than we know.

Thanks a lot! :)
It certainly is, much worse than I'd ever thought... :(

[lostworld]

Zooey Deschanel & Katy Perry
http://a.imagehost.org/0589/astroc_zoey_perry.jpg


The similarity between these two is really strong...
We've posted some about Zooey and Katy before, if you're interested just use the "search this thread" function for more comparisons between them.
Thanks! :)

[crystalline]

This thread is becoming part of my daily diet now, it's like a caffeine fix lol.

With regard to mind control and fame hunters, I think it is easy to say that those seeking celeb stardom are egotistical etc...

From my experiences of this industry, there are a few who are very ambitious and driven, however there is also a multitude out there who are very naive and unfortunately become prime candidates for mind control svengali type managers.

I was 18 when I embarked on a journey seeking fame and fortune, I began living at my manager's apartment (perfect for total control) and over several years, was convinced that my eyes needed lifting, my teeth needed realligned, my opinions were moulded, I was distanced from my family and told that my manager also worked for MI5.

I was taught how to have sex, usually in a drugged up haze.

My manager wore a Japanese type kimono, spoke fluent Japanese and could write this language also he said he was the only Englishmen who had been invited to become a member of the Yakuza!

I was driven everywhere and never allowed to buy things myself (others purchased everything I needed). I was conditioned with a lot of symbolism stuff (there was a red telephone in the apartment which I was told I could never answer). There was also a locked cupboard which I was told I could never go into. I went to masonic lodges and met politicians and diplomats. I also visited different embassy's and attended masked balls. I was drugged on a daily basis and told MI5 were tracking my every move. My manager was friends with a dentist on Harley Street who I went to for treatment, on one occasion I was given an injection, but no treatment was done, I am sure I was microchipped on this occasion. I was also taken to St Mary's Hospital with a referral from the doc that prescribed all the dodgy drugs I was given. At the hospital they xrayed me, though I don't know what this was for.

I did eventually find a key for the locked cupboard, inside was a machete, several passports from various countries, all had my manager's details on them but with different names. There was also many brown files and books on the Roman's and the Coliseum.

I was given a little dog.

I also met my manager's ex wife several times, she was seriously f ucked up and needed help in the middle of the night, on one occasion we took her to see a doctor at 3 a.m, strangely she saw this doctor in his home?

Not long after I was told my life was at risk and that I had to leave immediately, I couldn't take the dog.

It was like a bizarre movie, but this was my life for several years, programmed. I went into normal existence and couldn't cope at first, I remember paying someone to go to a shop to buy me some milk! it was bad.

[siphon880di]

Sure Siphon :)
I can help you with whatever material you need, from my own posts etc. However I don't have the skills in technology so you or somebody else would have to to "put it together".

Okay I'll eventually start the vid and might ask you for more info. I'm going to go through many pages of the thread.

[chrysoprase]

There is a documentary called "Last Days" of Lisa Lopes, in it you actually watch the car crash happen, Lisa in what appears to be a trance asks for a small box from the back seat, she holds the box in her lap and continues to drive staring blankly ahead. You then hear her friends say "watch it" and Lisa swerves the car right off the road and into the enbankment - as one of the passengers was filming it all. Also, during this documentary, Lisa is fixated on cleansing herself and she talks about abuse, but in a cloaked manner that I could not understand at the time.

Here is access to the documentary:

http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/the_last_days_of_left_eye.htm

If memory serves, I believe it was that morning (of the crash) that Lisa is telling her friend of the dream that she had that night where the sun was getting closer and huger and it really scared Lisa and she felt it was a premonition.

**
This morning I did a search on the death of Robert Plant's daughter in car crash - I guess I was wrong. All I know is around that time (early to mid 1980's) it seemed to me that it was time for his "payment" to be made in exchange for his fortune. The song I spoke of is called "Big Log"

Lyrics:

My love is in league with the freeway
Its passion will ride, as the cities fly by
And the tail-lights dissolve, in the coming of night
And the questions in thousands take flight
My love is a-miles in the waiting
The eyes that just stare, and the glance at the clock
And the secret that burns, and the pain that grows dark
And it's you once again
Leading me on - leading me down the road
Driving beyond - driving me down the road

My love is exceedingly vivid
Red-eyed and fevered with the hum of the miles
Distance and longing, my thoughts do provide
Should I rest for a while at the side
Your love is cradled in knowing
Eyes in the mirror, still expecting they'll come
Sensing too well when the journey is done
There is no turning back - no
There is no turning back - on the run

My love is in league with the freeway
Oh the freeway, and the coming of night-time
My love is in league with the freeway

I do know that around the time he wrote this song he was involved in at least 2 car crashes, one that left him unable to walk for quite some time. However, it was his son that was killed by a viral infection.

**

Anyhoo, I am still reading this read, I am now here:

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Rupert_Everett_Surgery.jpg

To look in the mirror and see someone different must really mess with one's mind.

**
Rapid aging of a clone? She is 23 years old?

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lilo_wall2.jpg


(I hope my images show up right - first attempt!)

[crystalline]

just with regard to the details in my last post, can anyone please advise how I can find out for sure if I was chipped and how to get rid of this?

[lostworld]

Okay I'll eventually start the vid and might ask you for more info. I'm going to go through many pages of the thread.

I'll pm you a compilation, a best of this thread, that I already have ready (I've sent it out to others who has contacted me).

Just pm me if you need further help. This is great - thank you! :)

[lauren_almighty]

Anyhoo, I am still reading this read, I am now here:

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Rupert_Everett_Surgery.jpg

To look in the mirror and see someone different must really mess with one's mind.

**
Rapid aging of a clone? She is 23 years old?

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lilo_wall2.jpg


(I hope my images show up right - first attempt!)

OH MY GOD! That Lindsey Lohan pic is shocking. I know she has skin damage from the sun but that is horrendous!

[americana]

God, Rupert Everett was still so sexy! I just don't get it. He REALLY doesn't look like himself, so much so that I don't see him getting more work out of the transformation.

[americana]

Yes, sexuality can be programmed according to what I've found during my research... it makes sense to when you see programmed Anne Heche change her sexuality "just like that". Cynthia Nixon is another that comes to mind.
... :(

Agreed about Heche . .. who doesn't look or even talk like herself from the one episode I've seen of Hung. (I don't think she's such a great actress that she's actually ACTING, so the voice bit is STRANGE.)

As for Cynthia Nixon, well . . . I think she's always been a lesbian, really. I think that for an actress she's pretty down to earth . . . and one of the least programmed ones out there!

[seaweed]

just with regard to the details in my last post, can anyone please advise how I can find out for sure if I was chipped and how to get rid of this?

Hi, Hope this doesn't sound frivolous, but have you considered finding a friendly veterinarian? They have a scanner which can detect microchips in pets, and presumably it could also detect them in people?

I'm finding your posts very interesting. Someone close to me used to be very famous and experienced many of the same things you mention. We're in the process of trying to gently unravel the truth behind certain events.

I've posted about this before - not sure if it was this thread - but the person has absolutely no memory of the stage performances he did with the famous project. He remembers turning up at the venue, then coming back to the dressing room, but not the actual performance. When he sees videos of the show, he knows it him up there on stage, but still can't remember performing.

His manager also used to make him see a Harley Street doctor who would administer injections for no reason.

[lostworld]

Agreed about Heche . .. who doesn't look or even talk like herself from the one episode I've seen of Hung. (I don't think she's such a great actress that she's actually ACTING, so the voice bit is STRANGE.)

As for Cynthia Nixon, well . . . I think she's always been a lesbian, really. I think that for an actress she's pretty down to earth . . . and one of the least programmed ones out there!

I don't know if Cynthia's programmed. But it was a dramatic change... And her partner is def a mis match, just like so many other couples we've seen here. Makes you wonder... :rolleyes:

She was married for 15 years & has two kids:
Nixon has two children, daughter Samantha (b. 1995) and son Charles Ezekiel (b. 2001),[7] with Danny Mozes, an English professor, with whom she was in a relationship from 1988 to 2003. (Wikipedia)

As for being a closet-lesbian, she denies it:
Discussing her relationship in an interview in New York Magazine in 2006, Nixon stated that she never felt any struggle with her sexuality:
"I never felt like there was an unconscious part of me around that woke up or that came out of the closet; there wasn't a struggle, there wasn't an attempt to suppress. I met this woman, I fell in love with her, and I'm a public figure."12] In an interview in May 2007, she said:

“In terms of sexual orientation I don’t really feel I’ve changed... I’d been with men all my life, and I’d never fallen in love with a woman. But when I did, it didn’t seem so strange. I’m just a woman in love with another woman." (Wikipedia)


It seems to have happened "just like that" which to me is suspicious...


Cynthia Nixon and her partner Christine Marinoni
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8831/cynthiagf2.jpghttp://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8928/a23i5wv8n0s98v0i.jpg

[lostworld]

Although I am fascinated by this thread; there has been a picture here or there where I just think "it's called getting old, y'all!" "someday you'll see!";)

Having said that, I will sometime vainly compare myself with a celebrity who has lived through the past 20 (or more) years just like myself and wonder why I don't look that old. :o I suppose it is a really stressful life. But am also intrigued by the fact that clones age rapidly. Isn't that why the meat industry likes cloned cows? The quickened growth factor makes them ready for the market alot sooner than real cows. But you cannot slow down that growth factor = get old rapidly.

Yes, of course there's natural aging, even in Hollywood. But some have a really speed-up aging that I consider not normal and suspicious. Mel Gibson is one. Julia Ormond another. Kathleen Turner is a bit strange too, although I'm aware of her healthproblems.

The stress in this case would be more due to mindcontrol and whatever that does to a body. No wonder if these people age faster then... :rolleyes:
And clones, who age more rapidly, is of course a factor too.



Julia Ormond? That one really gets me. She does not seem like the same person - at all. Where is the real Julia? I liked her performances. Did she do something wrong?:(

Yes, poor Julia :( There's really something wrong there. I think she was replaced by "something". She is NOT what she was and I don't think it's just mind control...

The reason why they replace some and not others, we can only speculate. Perhaps not all can be replaced, the same way as not all can be programmed. Then they are killed off instead, usually cause they "did something wrong", wanted out or went against the agenda in some way...


Not sure if this has been mentioned, but "The Invasion" with Nicole Kidman is a movie relevant to this thread. Watch it if you haven't already. Scary stuff showing the importance of not having emotions in order to fit in to the agenda.

Yes, I've seen it. Very true. Here's a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s15PvvAt4lo



And - not that I think I was intended to be handled; but I am thinking about a book given to me in the early 1980's called "Watch Your Dreams" by Ann Rae Colton. When I first got the book I read it cover to cover. Since that time for nearly 30 years, that book has found it's way to my coffee table every week at least. I have very vivid dreams and it has such comprehensive definitions of symbols, grouped in chapters, such as: Trees, Colors, Animals, Gemstones, Physical Body Parts, Food, etc.

So why do I bring this book up? Because I recently looked beyond the chapters that have the definitions and relooked at the rest of the book - the first time in over 25 years.

The book lists "intercessory beings" and their symbols. Along with the archangels, jesus, the saints, are the following: Illuminati, The Great Immortals or Inward Masters, Master M, Master Serapis, Master K.H. and other teachers and "sacred gurus". At this time I did not know who these beings were, and was never interested enough pursue that section of the book.:
..................

But another part wonders if the illuminati (or whomever) can infiltrate my dreams to screw with me. Especially since I have loved this book. I always make sure to pray every night now and ask for God's guidance, and not to be led astray. But still I have some intense dreams and I am sometimes not sure if I am being tricked with.



Sound like an interesting book.
I don't know how it works with dreams, maybe somebody else knows some more about this?
But with mind control victims, they use both books and movies to program the child. And then of course we have the mass programming by media; magazines and movies - and that I'm sure also includes books. Books have always been known as a "dangerous" weapon cause the reader re-create the story in his/her mind, which would indicate it to be more powerful for programming than just something you'll see on a screen...


So, going back to the quote above, a couple of years ago I had a dream of a man (many years younger than me). A voice boomed overhead and said with great authority "This is Your Soul Mate!
I laughed because he was so young, but I said I'll take him. (He was cute). I never forgot his face and 2 years later I met him. He broke my heart and was a total cad to say the least. Some really disgusting stuff, that at first I always made excuses for because he was my soul mate.

Part of me wants to think that he was indeed my soul mate, but just not the variety that I was expecting. I was meant to learn from him what not to accept.

You sound just like me... :o I had the same thing happening to me (we were basically the same age though, him only two years older). It's really hurtful... I made the same excuses, so I can totally relate. I'm sorry that this happened to you, I also tell myself that it had to have some meaning...


So, getting back to celebrities, my first reaction to all this stepfording is that they must be complicit in this (initially) and that it couldn't happen unless they were approached with an offer that they accepted - or if they themselves summoned the dark side in order to make a deal.
But from my own experience, I think some really do not know what they are getting themselves into. Especially if they are young and dumb. The dark side can and will deceive and lie.

Some sell their souls to the dark side. Some are tricked and don't know what they're getting into before it's too late, many of these are also being programmed.
And some are being programmed from early childhood and "groomed" into the industry.


So I will try to wrap up another lengthy post with this observation about Robert Plant. I believed that he had made a deal for fame; and that he later came to regret it (especially after the death of his daughter in a car crash). But as the lyrics to one of his songs says: There is no turning back. Not sure what song that was but I remember the video and there was a white feather floating in the video of this song.

According to "Watch your Dreams" a white feather signifies "sacrifice".

How very interesting... Sounds worth looking into some more. I personally don't have much knowledge of Robert Plant.


I guess that is not really Stepford or mind control. Sorry about that, I am going to have to poke around some of the other threads here; but this is my favorite..

I'm glad you like the thread :)
Don't worry, this is all related to what we're discussing here. And even if it wasn't it's ok to be offtopic sometimes... :)

Oops, one more thing. Somewhere in this thread Lucy Liu was quoted about a spirit that had sex with her. This totally freaks me out. When I was in my twenties, there were a few times that a spirit tried to have sex with me and I knew (no doubt in my mind) that it was demonic. Don't have sex with spirits people! It is not worth it. That is how they get inside of you!! That, in itself, I believe is making a deal!:eek:

:eek:
Personally, I stay away from spirits and psychics cause I'm afraid of demons getting through. I know that there are some safety-precautions you can do, but with demons you'll never know...
A lof of people get fooled by them IMO.

[lostworld]

Haha, it is. I think I'm going to go through this thread next week, and the ones on Denver Airport.

:)

Denver Airport is :eek:
Very bizarre...

Here's some links about it, there's many out there:
http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/970/the-unexplained/mysterious-murals-and-monuments-at-the-denver-airport/

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/aliensindenver.htm


Amazon, I thought you'd gone through the thread by now... ;)
If you want my "best of"-compilation from this thread just pm me (that goes for everybody). :)


Mural at Denver Airport
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6183/denverairportwhitejewsc.jpg

[americana]

The strange case of "Julia Ormond" (Foolia Ormond)

http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/images/julia_o_3.jpg

http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/images/julia_o_2.jpg

http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/images/julia_o_1.jpg

Does it look to anyone else that there is almost a "split" of her face into two parts . . . not in the image of her with her head thrown back, though.

The pictures were taken from HERE (http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/2008/12/14/julia-ormond-is-ageing-naturally/)

[lostworld]

This thread is becoming part of my daily diet now, it's like a caffeine fix lol.

With regard to mind control and fame hunters, I think it is easy to say that those seeking celeb stardom are egotistical etc...

From my experiences of this industry, there are a few who are very ambitious and driven, however there is also a multitude out there who are very naive and unfortunately become prime candidates for mind control svengali type managers.

I was 18 when I embarked on a journey seeking fame and fortune, I began living at my manager's apartment (perfect for total control) and over several years, was convinced that my eyes needed lifting, my teeth needed realligned, my opinions were moulded, I was distanced from my family and told that my manager also worked for MI5.

I was taught how to have sex, usually in a drugged up haze.

My manager wore a Japanese type kimono, spoke fluent Japanese and could write this language also he said he was the only Englishmen who had been invited to become a member of the Yakuza!

I was driven everywhere and never allowed to buy things myself (others purchased everything I needed). I was conditioned with a lot of symbolism stuff (there was a red telephone in the apartment which I was told I could never answer). There was also a locked cupboard which I was told I could never go into. I went to masonic lodges and met politicians and diplomats. I also visited different embassy's and attended masked balls. I was drugged on a daily basis and told MI5 were tracking my every move. My manager was friends with a dentist on Harley Street who I went to for treatment, on one occasion I was given an injection, but no treatment was done, I am sure I was microchipped on this occasion. I was also taken to St Mary's Hospital with a referral from the doc that prescribed all the dodgy drugs I was given. At the hospital they xrayed me, though I don't know what this was for.

I did eventually find a key for the locked cupboard, inside was a machete, several passports from various countries, all had my manager's details on them but with different names. There was also many brown files and books on the Roman's and the Coliseum.

I was given a little dog.

I also met my manager's ex wife several times, she was seriously f ucked up and needed help in the middle of the night, on one occasion we took her to see a doctor at 3 a.m, strangely she saw this doctor in his home?

Not long after I was told my life was at risk and that I had to leave immediately, I couldn't take the dog.

It was like a bizarre movie, but this was my life for several years, programmed. I went into normal existence and couldn't cope at first, I remember paying someone to go to a shop to buy me some milk! it was bad.

Thanks Crystalline for telling us more about your experiences in this field... It's very disturbing and I'm so glad that you got out of it :)


just with regard to the details in my last post, can anyone please advise how I can find out for sure if I was chipped and how to get rid of this?

I come to think of people who claim that they've been alien abducted and later it's discovered that they have implants in them - government or alien? :rolleyes:

Here's a forum for mind control victims. I don't know much about it, but there are many victims there who share their story (just click on their names). Maybe you could get some contacts and help from there?
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/victm-hm.htm

Local contacts, state & country:
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/states.htm

ex of victim story:
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/intro2.htm#Naeslund

"Luckily" (for his credibility), Robert Naeslund has actual proof of being implanted with brain transmitters by the CIA and Swedish authorities.
:eek: Getting too close to home...


Some UFO-experts that might be be able to help, some of them are psychologists and hypnotherapists and work directly with victims, Budd Hopkins is very famous for instance:
http://www.aliensecrets.com/as/experts2.htm


About UFO-abductions and implants, that in many cases seem to be of human technology:
http://www.karenlyster.com/implants.html

There's a lot more info out there, google "mind control victims", "implants" and I'm sure you'll find more.
I hope you'll find help.

[americana]

http://images.nymag.com/movies/profiles/juliaormond081222_560.jpg
again, the "split" face

Interesting article from New York Magazine about her career trajectory:

The Curious Case of Julia Ormond
The actress returns, ten years after her brief fling as film’s Next Big Thing.
.By Bilge Ebiri Published Dec 14, 2008

‘It’s wonderful to not get stuck with the ingénue roles. Not being the love interest frees you up to do a lot of other things,” says Julia Ormond, who has been inconspicuous for some years after one of the most conspicuous careers of the nineties. For a moment there, she was Hollywood’s Next Big Thing, primo alpha-male bait, fought over by Brad Pitt and Aidan Quinn in 1994’s Legends of the Fall, Richard Gere and Sean Connery in 1995’s First Knight, and Harrison Ford and Greg Kinnear in Sydney Pollack’s remake of Sabrina. “You think they’re different—one’s a Western, one’s a fairy tale, one’s a romantic comedy,” she says of those roles. “Then you step back and realize it’s the same thing.”



And now, here she is again, at 43, appearing in small yet key parts in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button andChe. In the first, it’s her reading of Benjamin Button’s journal that propels the film’s flashback structure (though she is never reunited onscreen with Pitt, who plays Button). In the second, she is American journalist Lisa Howard, whose interview with Benicio Del Toro’s Che provides the film’s structure. “Julia put on a blonde wig and sent us a tape of herself as Howard,” says director Steven Soderbergh of casting her. “It was pretty spectacular, and that’s all it took.”



If the parts aren’t big, at least the Surrey-born, stage-trained actress gets to take risks in ways those stand-around-and-look-pretty parts didn’t allow. To wit, her trifecta of shape-shifting weirdness in David Lynch’s 2006 Inland Empire. Total screen time? Seven minutes. But the range required was astonishing (she plays, in turn, a tormented white-trash stabbing victim, the stabber herself, and a mysterious upper-crust woman). It was also notable for what it provoked in viewers: Wait! Was that Julia Ormond? What ever happened to her?



In fact, she had a rather precipitous fall. “You could see it coming,” she says. “I’m British, so I can’t help but see anybody who is getting that kind of hype as being set up to be torn down.” First Knight and Sabrina got creamed by critics. Smilla’s Sense of Snow, an anticipated adaptation of the best seller, opened and promptly closed in early 1997. Then she got stuck in Moscow working on the runaway Russian epic The Barber of Siberia; it shot for nearly a year, then got shelved for two.



Ironically, she had taken the lead in Barber to get out of a creative rut and back to her Stanislavsky roots. When the film opened in 1999, however, it, too, was panned, amid speculation that its director, Nikita Mikhalkov, might run for president of Russia. “I got to Cannes thinking finally we could talk about the work,” she recalls. “And it all went horribly pear-shaped right in the press conference. The timing was classically funny.”



Which is when Ormond’s natural detachment kicked in. “I needed breathing space,” she said. She took a break and had a daughter with activist and entrepreneur Jon Rubin. She also threw herself into nonprofit work: In 1999, she helped found FilmAid International, which brings film into refugee camps around the world. A documentary she produced about women in Bosnian concentration camps, Calling the Ghosts, won two Emmys. More recently, Ormond founded the Alliance to Stop Slavery and End Trafficking (ASSET), which works with governments to clean up the supply chains that allow for human trafficking. “You look at the products in your home and you realize slavery is all around you—in most cotton, a lot of coffee and cocoa, and in the charcoal which goes into steel production. You realize there’s more you can be doing.”



And slowly she began to take parts again—her latest two because of the directors. Button’s David Fincher surprised her by being—despite his F/X-wizard rep—minutely involved in character development. “I wish more people would tell you what they want.”



Che was a bigger challenge. The romantic energy between her character and Guevara had to be created entirely through glances, since the dialogue itself came from an existing Q&A that was entirely “professional,” says Ormond. “Some of my favorite scenes are the looks on her face when she’s watching Che interact with other people at a party,” says Soderbergh, who first noticed Ormond in the British mini-series Traffic, which he later made into a film. “We were moving very quickly and no one knew when we were shooting and when we weren’t. The only direction I gave Julia was to assume the camera was always on. I can’t imagine anybody better for what we were trying to accomplish. She brings a rigor to the backstory that’s a prerequisite when you’re shooting the way I described. She seems to remember everything she’s ever read or heard, so she can call on that at a moment’s notice and improvise on the spot. There are a lot of people who not only can’t do that but who don’t want to.”



Still, neither of these movies or their marketing campaigns is focused on Ormond. “Is it hard to face a moment when you’re up and then suddenly no longer be flavor of the month? Sure,” she says. “But it strengthens you, too. Acting is about more than luck and breaks.” And, in her case, the hype.

Has anyone seen the David Lynch film Inland Empire mentioned here? It seems a key to the puzzle . . .

[lostworld]

The strange case of "Julia Ormond" (Foolia Ormond)

Thanks Americana,
I chose to repost my old post on this, # 1112, in case anyone missed it -for additional info on this case.

The Legend of Julia's fall

After a meteoric rise and three Hollywood blockbusters, British actress Julia Ormond suddenly fell from grace. But now, after a detour into art films, politics and parenthood she’s trying to make her mark on the big screen once more.

She was hailed as the new Julia Roberts and described by one critic as“a huricane on the horizon”. The lone voice of caution, it seems, came from Julia herself.

“It’s happening very quickly, horribly quickly really,” she said at the time.

“I don’t know that it’s such a good thing, actually. I think it could backfire quite badly.”

And how right she was, for just as quickly as big-time success arrived, the backlash came.

The New York Times ran a piece titled ‘The Conception, Production and Distribution of Julia Ormond’, which implied that Julia had somehow connived in creating her rapid celebrity out of nowhere (an angle that all but ignored her successful ten-years career on the British stage and screen).

from "The legend of Julia's fall"
http://www.juliaormond.cz/the-legend


Now she has a role in Benjamin Button, that stars Brad Pitt as Button.

During "the missing years" Julia explains she “did a documentary about Bosnian women in Serbian detention camps, did a radio play, worked with Harold Pinter ... and threw a ton of time into personal stuff and fell in love and had a baby.” :rolleyes:

Julia is also a UN's goodwill ambassador - that is always a clue too :rolleyes:

Julias downfall is one thing, another one is her brutal aging.
Wtf happened to her? :eek:

Julia was, officially, born 1965. That makes her 43, turning 44 this year.
She should NOT look like this in her early 40's! She looks like she's been chain smoking out in the hot sun for the last 10 years to have a skin like that!
This is NOT normal aging. This is something else...


Julia then, only 10 years ago

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8203/juliaormondgallery12.jpghttp://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5480/sabrina.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3434/juliaormond.jpg


and now

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8140/84256254.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5694/15440515.png


Even more scary in the light...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8739/95649596.png


Julia in the First Knight, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=994xLEchcfQ&feature=related

and

Interview 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWzKAI46fEY

Interview 2009
This does NOT look or sound like Julia at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWz-Ykn0eo&feature=related

comments from youtube:

ImLindseyAnne
Totally agree with your sentiments. I thought she was incredible as Sabrina, but does look and sound like a totally different person.

musik102
Julia looks and sounds so different!

IAmAnAvocado
WHY has she got an American accent ?????

wavehann
I like her british accent. what happen?




The real Julia Ormond
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7292/270pxjuliaormond1.jpg

[chrysoprase]

Julia Ormond has such an expressive face. There seems to be lots of thoughts and feeling behind those eyes. Except in the new pictures... there is nothing there. Just that fixed "smiling" expression.

***

Here is a strange picture of Beyonce. Strangely, the website that I got it from offers no explanation at all, but in the URL are the words "wig pull". Is that what happens? I have never seen that before. It looks painful if it is a wig pull. But if it is a mask peeling away, probably she doesn't even feel it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7P37NqWJVlM/SbqNPd7VMCI/AAAAAAAAB-I/6WsBdsBmJYg/s400/beyonce-wig-pull.jpg

Picture from :http://achoiceofweapons.blogspot.com/2009/03/mista-jaycees-list-of-real-divas.html


Also: http://www.thefablife.com/2009-04-29/beyonce-using-body-double-to-do-dirty-work/

Beyonce is putting her millions to good use. The singer has apparently hired a body double, who she sends to boring events and other public appearances that she’s supposed to attend. Most recently the look-a-like was dragged out of her cage to appear as Beyonce at a scheduled visit to Austria’s Albertina Museum. The real songbird then escaped the glare of the cameras and went shopping.

EDITED TO ADD: Okay, mystery solved. Apparently there is a type of wig that is taped to the forehead and covered with makeup. Sometimes the tape gets loose and puckers. Whew!

[chrysoprase]

http://img1.jurko.net/wall/paper/julia_ormond_1.jpg http://media.entertainment.sky.com/image/unscaled/2009/3/2/Julia-Ormond.jpghttp://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/julia_ormond/fotos/7242/julia_ormond.jpg

Rachel Weisz (who kinda looks like Julia) has also aged rapidly; and check out her eye:

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/rachel-weisz/pictures/rachel-weisz-picture-2.jpg http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/rachel-weisz/pictures/rachel-weisz-picture-1.jpg

[serenevasaline]

ZOOOOMG!

This thread has gotten big. I have a LOT of catching up to do.......

[armoured_amazon]

ZOOOOMG!

This thread has gotten big. I have a LOT of catching up to do.......

Where have you been, serenevasaline! :)

Denver Airport is :eek:
Very bizarre...

Here's some links about it, there's many out there:
http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/970/the-unexplained/mysterious-murals-and-monuments-at-the-denver-airport/

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/aliensindenver.htm


Amazon, I thought you'd gone through the thread by now... ;)
If you want my "best of"-compilation from this thread just pm me (that goes for everybody). :)

Hehe, one can never read this thread too many times :D

I just wonder, is everyone brainwashed in Denver? I don't know that such twisted art (including the horse!) would keep being erected here, without the locals having something to say about it.

[lauren_almighty]

Denver Airport is :eek:
Very bizarre...

Here's some links about it, there's many out there:
http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/970/the-unexplained/mysterious-murals-and-monuments-at-the-denver-airport/

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/aliensindenver.htm


Amazon, I thought you'd gone through the thread by now... ;)
If you want my "best of"-compilation from this thread just pm me (that goes for everybody). :)


Mural at Denver Airport
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6183/denverairportwhitejewsc.jpg

I didn't know anything about Denver airport until just now. I read the above links and there is some freaky stuff. Like those murals! :eek:
They creep me out just looking at them. I can imagine I'd feel really uncomfortable in a place like that.

[armoured_amazon]

I didn't know anything about Denver airport until just now. I read the above links and there is some freaky stuff. Like those murals! :eek:
They creep me out just looking at them. I can imagine I'd feel really uncomfortable in a place like that.

It's a horrible and grotesque place. I can only imagine the sense of relief passengers feel once airborne.

:eek:

[siphon880di]

I didn't know anything about Denver airport until just now. I read the above links and there is some freaky stuff. Like those murals! :eek:
They creep me out just looking at them. I can imagine I'd feel really uncomfortable in a place like that.

You might want to watch this vid about Denver Airport. It's a good introductory video and you could learn something new.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[humito]

Julia Ormond has such an expressive face. There seems to be lots of thoughts and feeling behind those eyes. Except in the new pictures... there is nothing there. Just that fixed "smiling" expression.

***

Here is a strange picture of Beyonce. Strangely, the website that I got it from offers no explanation at all, but in the URL are the words "wig pull". Is that what happens? I have never seen that before. It looks painful if it is a wig pull. But if it is a mask peeling away, probably she doesn't even feel it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7P37NqWJVlM/SbqNPd7VMCI/AAAAAAAAB-I/6WsBdsBmJYg/s400/beyonce-wig-pull.jpg

Picture from :http://achoiceofweapons.blogspot.com/2009/03/mista-jaycees-list-of-real-divas.html


Also: http://www.thefablife.com/2009-04-29/beyonce-using-body-double-to-do-dirty-work/



EDITED TO ADD: Okay, mystery solved. Apparently there is a type of wig that is taped to the forehead and covered with makeup. Sometimes the tape gets loose and puckers. Whew!

is she bald then?:eek:

[grachtengordel]

[B]Anyway, whats happening to JESSICA LANGE's face? Is she still herself, even surgically changed - as much as "self" can exist in Hollywood - or...?[

Thats just an old rich woman who had pplastic surgey, what has she got to do with 'stepford'? she does not look 'robotic' , 'cloned' or 'replaced' , just had a 'face lift'. It's not relevant to this thread which already walks a fine line between 'research' and 'celebrity worship', I only say this because there is some great info in this thread that sometimes gets buried under 'who looks good or bad' type conversations

[lostworld]

Hehe, one can never read this thread too many times :D

:D :)

I just wonder, is everyone brainwashed in Denver? I don't know that such twisted art (including the horse!) would keep being erected here, without the locals having something to say about it.

Yep, everyone is brainwashed in Denver... :p

I first heard about the airport about two years ago and read a lot about it then. Now I feel that I have to update my knowledge a bit, I've forgotten some.
Yes, the Luciferian horse! :eek: I read about it again and there your question is answered some, AA:

Outside the Airport stands a 32 ft tall statue of a rearing blue Mustang. This horse has alternately been referred to as “Bluecifer,” “Satan’s Steed” and “Blue Devil Horse.”
So striking and disturbing is this statue, that it has prompted petitions and organizations to sprout up, demanding its removal.


http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8067/horse500.jpg


[I]The sculptor of the piece was an artist named Luis Ramirez. Strangely, he was killed while building the statue, when it fell on top of him, severing an artery. His sons completed the project. :eek:

http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/970/the-unexplained/mysterious-murals-and-monuments-at-the-denver-airport/


Then there is all that talk about underground bases, aliens and human slavery:

AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to the deep underground base that he was offered the plans to build back in 1979, and that what this other man told me in private that there is a lot of human slave labor in these deep underground bases being used by these aliens, and that a lot of this slave labor is children. He said that when the children reach the point that they are unable to work any more, they are slaughtered on the spot and consumed.

DA: Consumed by who?

AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but from a man that gave his life to get this information out. He worked down there for close to 20 years, and he knew everything that was going on.

DA: Hmmm. Who do these aliens eat?

AC: They specifically like young human children, that haven't been contaminated like adults. Well, there is a gentleman out giving a lot of information from a source he gets it from, and he says that there is an incredible number of children snatched in this country.

DA: Over 200,000 each year.

AC: And that these children are the main entree for dinner.

DA: How many Draconians are down there?

AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in the New York area.

DA: Underneath New York?

AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base there.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/aliensindenver.htm

[lostworld]

You might want to watch this vid about Denver Airport. It's a good introductory video and you could learn something new.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrrflAQHSs

Good video Siphon, thanks! :)

[emerald]

FALL of the "first man": DJ AM dead (read suicided). Ridiculous to have escaped a terrible plane crash and then to die "doped"...

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/dj-am-found-dead-in-nyc-police-sources-suspect-drug-overdose/27062

Supposedly Adam's last words on Twitter, August 25th at 2:47 PM: "New york, new york.Big city of dreams, but everything in new york ain't always what it seems."

R.I.P. Adam...

[armoured_amazon]

FALL of the "first man": DJ AM dead (read suicided). Ridiculous to have escaped a terrible plane crash and then to die "doped"...

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/dj-am-found-dead-in-nyc-police-sources-suspect-drug-overdose/27062

Supposedly Adam's last words on Twitter, August 25th at 2:47 PM: "New york, new york.Big city of dreams, but everything in new york ain't always what it seems."

R.I.P. Adam...

No way, I didn't know that. :eek: RIP.

[emerald]

Too "enthusiastic" about her new family, just like HEIDI KLUM... Christina bursts out into tears...

http://caesardaynsound.blogspot.com/2009/08/video-christina-aguilera-gets-emotional.html

Recently spotted KAREN MULDER "having fun"

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1940/20090827fp3487487angmul.jpg (http://img79.imageshack.us/i/20090827fp3487487angmul.jpg/)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9905/20090827fp3487489angmul.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/20090827fp3487489angmul.jpg/)

Interesting part of DAKOTA FANNING in THE TWILIGHT SAGA:NEW MOON. She will play Jane, "angel-like face and she has the ability to torture people with illusions of pain."

[emerald]

JESSICA STAM for NINA RICCI, summer 2009

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4559/jessicastamninaricci.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/i/jessicastamninaricci.jpg/)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2452/jstamnricci200.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/jstamnricci200.jpg/)

[lostworld]

FALL of the "first man": DJ AM dead (read suicided). Ridiculous to have escaped a terrible plane crash and then to die "doped"...

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/dj-am-found-dead-in-nyc-police-sources-suspect-drug-overdose/27062

Supposedly Adam's last words on Twitter, August 25th at 2:47 PM: "New york, new york.Big city of dreams, but everything in new york ain't always what it seems."

R.I.P. Adam...

Wow, that's news to me.

Now, I don't know much about Adam and I don't wanna be disrespectful, but since it's important for what we do here;
Let's remember that he was also the ex-boyfriend of Nicole Richie, jewish and in the business = what we would consider potentially a handler.

However, with many young couples (models/musicians/actors) - when the two are more "on the same level and age" it's more likely to believe that they are put together for PR reasons or for a "2-1 deal" - more easy to control.
(Maybe there are "normal" couples too, even though both most likely are being programmed, I don't know. :confused: )

After his breakup with Richie, Goldstein dated singer-actress Mandy Moore.

Adam Goldstein and Nicole Richie
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5057/nicoleandadam3000x0400x.jpg


He also was an ex-member of the group Crazy Town, that had a big hit with the song Butterfly. :rolleyes:

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6320/6049.jpghttp://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4544/butterflyaze.jpg


Adam Goldstein and Travis Barker was in a plane crash on September 19, 2008. The crash killed both crew members and two other passengers, and critically injured Goldstein and Barker.

- and now this... it seems that they really wanted him gone...

The Elite can of course kill their own if they go against the agenda or if they have served their purpose.
But like I said before, Adam might also be totally innocent and just another victim who's now been sacrificed. I guess we'll never know.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6256/barkerkrasch440737167a.jpg


Researching some more, it seems like there was a lot of trauma in his childhood. That would indicate him being a victim of mind control... :(

Born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to a Jewish family,[3][4][5] His father verbally abused him, as Goldstein said, it was "unbelievably cruel." Later he found out his father was secretly gay and addicted to drugs.[6] Eventually his father was sent to jail for committing bank fraud and died of AIDS.[7]
He began taking drugs, so her mother placed him in a treatment center that specialized in “tough love.” Unbeknownst to his mother, the place was an abusive house of horrors that would eventually be shut down. "The counselors beat us. They spit in our faces. They starved us. They never let us see or talk to our parents," Goldstein later pictured the situation (Wikipedia)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5273/adamgoldstein.jpg

Adam Goldstein was found dead at his New York City apartment on on Lafayette Street at around 5:20 p.m. on Friday, August 28, 2009. He was 36 years old. (Wikipedia)

- 36 years old = 3 number 6 = 666 :eek:

A week before his death, Goldstein and longtime girlfriend Hayley Wood had broken up. On August 21, Life & Style magazine reported that Goldstein's friends took him out for dinner earlier that week in Los Angeles "because he was depressed." His friends told TMZ.com that he continued to suffer from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).[36] "He struggled with pain after the crash," a close friend of Golstein told E! News Friday. "But it seemed like he was functioning fine and never missed work

R.I.P. Adam

[lostworld]

Too "enthusiastic" about her new family, just like HEIDI KLUM... Christina bursts out into tears...

http://caesardaynsound.blogspot.com/2009/08/video-christina-aguilera-gets-emotional.html

Yes, that was a bit "too much"... :rolleyes:
She looks really weird there too.


Recently spotted KAREN MULDER "having fun"


Poor Karen... :(
And WHAT is she wearing?? Those black leather shorts (!) seems to be a bit short for her even though she still has a great body. Off topic but anyway...

[kiwimaj]

[QUOTE=astrochicken;1220280]Zooey Deschanel & Katy Perry
http://a.imagehost.org/0589/astroc_zoey_perry.jpg

Hi Lost & Guys,

Don't forget Alexis Bledel, she completes the DNA triplets...:D

http://www.tvfanatic.com/files/alexis-bledel.jpghttp://www.celebspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/alexis-bledel.jpg

Have found a better solution to the emf crap, will message you Lost...

Great thread !!

:)

[lostworld]

Hi Lost & Guys,

Don't forget Alexis Bledel, she completes the DNA triplets...:D


Have found a better solution to the emf crap, will message you Lost...

Great thread !!
:)

Hi Kiwi ! :)
Of course we should not forget about Alexis... :D Thanks!

I'm glad if you've found some solution :) I'll wait for your pm.

Take care my friend.

[emerald]

AMANDA SWAFFORD vs. ANNIE LENNOX

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/125/000000141416amandalynns.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/000000141416amandalynns.jpg/)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7181/annielennox2.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/annielennox2.jpg/)

DANIELLE PANABAKER vs. WINONA RYDER

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3594/daniellepanabakerm.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/daniellepanabakerm.jpg/)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9937/winonarydermusicfeature.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/winonarydermusicfeature.jpg/)

SHENAE GRIMES vs. ANNE HATHAWAY

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9967/shenaegrimes240x320i.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/shenaegrimes240x320i.jpg/)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4250/annehathawaye.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/annehathawaye.jpg/)

MICHAEL ANGARANO vs. ED BURNS

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6003/v747ea.png (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/v747ea.png/)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9951/edburns.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/edburns.jpg/)

CATHERINE DENEUVE vs. GRACE KELLY

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8767/catherinedeneuve.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/catherinedeneuve.jpg/)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/193/03941304gracekellyposte.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/03941304gracekellyposte.jpg/)

[serenevasaline]

Where have you been, serenevasaline! :)




Hey gal. I have been lurkin around the boards silently. I started work you see and it took up all of my time.

kiwimaj, I didn't even notice that was 2 different people ! Who is Zooey Deschanel anyway?

[lostworld]

Hey gal. I have been lurkin around the boards silently. I started work you see and it took up all of my time.

kiwimaj, I didn't even notice that was 2 different people ! Who is Zooey Deschanel anyway?

Hi Serenevasaline :)
If you use the "search this thread" function you'll find more comparisons between these girls.

Zooey Deschanel is an actress/singer.

[amethyst]

Explains a lot....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96R9MG0DxLc


This is strange...but probably not...it's MK hollywood.....In light of all the Milley Cyrus bizarre-ness.....

....Notice Billy Ray Cyrus had a small cameo in this movie trailer that yeah, explains a lot

[chrysoprase]

Okay, that picture of Danielle looks just like Winona. And Katy/Zoey are as close to identical twin that I have ever seen.

You sound just like me... I had the same thing happening to me (we were basically the same age though, him only two years older). It's really hurtful... I made the same excuses, so I can totally relate. I'm sorry that this happened to you, I also tell myself that it had to have some meaning...


Thanks, lostworld. It was especially difficult because I happened to work with him and he was seeing someone else who worked there. But it ended up okay because both me and the othhr women dumped him simultaneously, and he became so angry, erratic and assholish that he ended up getting fired. So that made it easier to deal with.

Also, before he got fired, when I was so hurt, I had a dream and I saw myself happy; wearing these dangly crystal earrings. When I woke up I wanted to be happy like that and decided I had to have those earrings. I searched and couldn't find any like them... so I searched all over the internet and accidently came across a page that told me how to make earrings. Which started a frenzy of beading. It's great to find new hobbies! I collect vintage glass, crystal and semi-precious beads and make copper and silver jewelry and sell it at a local artist co-op and in a hotel gift shop. So broken hearts can be channeled into something creative!

Oh, and I stay away from psyhics too! I used to go to them, but I realized it wasn't doing me any good. It's just looking for answers in the wrong places.

is she bald then? :eek:

I don't know if Beyonce is bald.. but even if she was, one would think that wig technology would be a little better than that. I have never heard of anyone taping a wig to their forehead. Maybe it's a cover story. Maybe since that picture has been circulated Beyonce will come up with a line of wigs that you attach by taping to your forehead. Maybe she is bald because they have to change the circuitry in her head monthly.

**
I just wanted to add something to the Adam Goldstein story. Seth "Shifty" Binzer was also in the band Crazytown (he was singer). He's also Jewish and was said to have dated Paris Hilton at one time (yeah, I know, who hasn't dated Paris) anyway, Seth has been having alot of problems this year also. In February he was rumoured to have died, then it was said he was hospitalized for a cardiac arrest, then it was said that he was off somewhere on a binge and no one knew where he was.

Seth was on a show here in the States called "Celebrity Rehab" He talked about demons chasing him. With him I believed it was literally demons. While he was on this show, you saw how much he loved his son, (he cried when he talked about him and held him so tenderly when he was able to see him) This was a driving force behind him wanting to get clean. But he just seems unable to.

Having grown up in Los Angeles, I have seen alot of musicians striving for stardom. I worked for awhile at a recording studio and my fascination for musicians ended there because it seems that some of them get so cold and hard and weird. But with Seth it seems like he has been fighting to keep the good part of himself alive. But I worry if it is too late for him. I don't think he is the sharpest tool in the shed, and I think he made a deal he cannot get out of. (and that's just regretful speculation).

Interesting tattoos, wouldn't you say?

http://www.glogster.com/media/2/3/53/77/3537762.jpg http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/c/crazy-town/album-the-gift-of-game.jpghttp://www.wopvideos.com/img/covers/512.jpg

I'll tell you what has brought me here in the middle of the night: Julia Ormond.

About a month ago I saw a movie on my cable channel: Dan in Real Life. Steve Carrell (the guy who plays Michael Scott in the American version of "The Office") was the lead. He falls in love with his brother's (Dane Cook) girlfriend. Now, I am watching this movie and wondering who was playing the girlfriend, so I check it out and it was Julia Ormond. I was stymied. I continued to watch the movie. My feeling was sort of a "okay, if you say so". Who am I to disbelieve? But it did not seem like her at all, even after I knew it was her, I still couldn't see it. (But after reading this thread, I am not so accepting)

This new Julia has a certain serenity about her. I told myself maybe that is what it was, that she was now just serene. But it was a shallow serenity. Not the kind that comes from knowing yourself, but the kind that comes from not having any thoughts. Also, her mannerisms were different. And I remember Julia as having a rich tone to her voice that came from the heart region. This voice sounded different to me. In short, I liked Julia Ormond, and I really didn't like this person. :( Even though this movie was telling me that I should, because every one else thought she was great!:confused:

Here is a picture of Julia on the left, and on the right is who I call her imposter (who eyes are more almond shaped and with less depth) :

http://www.prisonflicks.com/images/CRachel2.jpghttp://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/julia20ormond.jpg

[chrysoprase]

Show biz tends to breed insecurity, so it might be kind of threatening to have a look alike come on the scene.

Winona Ryder and Danielle Panabaker:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3456/3180909884_943a7fa66f.jpghttp://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20060602/76_0_Winona_Ryder_to_Star_in_Sex_and_Deat_H200051_ L.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3594/daniellepanabakerm.jpg

[americana]

I'll tell you what has brought me here in the middle of the night: Julia Ormond.

About a month ago I saw a movie on my cable channel: Dan in Real Life. Steve Carrell (the guy who plays Michael Scott in the American version of "The Office") was the lead. He falls in love with his brother's (Dane Cook) girlfriend. Now, I am watching this movie and wondering who was playing the girlfriend, so I check it out and it was Julia Ormond. I was stymied. I continued to watch the movie. My feeling was sort of a "okay, if you say so". Who am I to disbelieve? But it did not seem like her at all, even after I knew it was her, I still couldn't see it. (But after reading this thread, I am not so accepting)

This new Julia has a certain serenity about her. I told myself maybe that is what it was, that she was now just serene. But it was a shallow serenity. Not the kind that comes from knowing yourself, but the kind that comes from not having any thoughts. Also, her mannerisms were different. And I remember Julia as having a rich tone to her voice that came from the heart region. This voice sounded different to me. In short, I liked Julia Ormond, and I really didn't like this person. :( Even though this movie was telling me that I should, because every one else thought she was great!:confused:

Here is a picture of Julia on the left, and on the right is who I call her imposter (who eyes are more almond shaped and with less depth) :

http://www.prisonflicks.com/images/CRachel2.jpghttp://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/julia20ormond.jpg

The individual on the right doesn't even look like the "newfangled" Julia Ormond who is showing her age in the shots posted a bit above in this thread, or even the airbrushed Julia Ormond in the More magazine shot that I posted a while back. Bizarre.

Note the black ring. Is this some sort of clue?

[americana]

This is not going to be a perfectly thought-out post.
I'm just going to throw some questions out there.

What's Zooey Deschanel's most striking feature?

Her eyes.

I am wondering if she is an Indigo child, who have unnaturally large, clear blue eyes.

Or, if she is being made to LOOK like an Indigo child with contact lenses, make-up, etc.

If she IS an Indigo child and has something extraordinary to offer the world, I am wondering if this has been SQUELCHED, so that there's "nothing there."

That is, perhaps Indigo children have been identified and targeted, then shut down.

OR, her powers have been harnessed by TPTB . . . and are being used for their ends . . .

Just a thought.

Like I said, I haven't fully explored this. Whaddya think?

[emerald]

This "indigo kids" or "crystal kids" fact is another New Age invention (and annoying one). Too much fuss about that. Kids/ppl with paranormal abilities have always existed. Period.

[americana]

This "indigo kids" or "crystal kids" fact is another New Age invention (and annoying one). Too much fuss about that. Kids/ppl with paranormal abilities have always existed. Period.

Yep.

Thus, one of the ideas I had was this:


Or, if she is being made to LOOK like an Indigo child with contact lenses, make-up, etc.

Perhaps "Zooey Deschanel" is an invention herself . . . .

[shankara]

How about:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Uaxrp_-Co5k/Smj9mHvvBAI/AAAAAAAABDM/5WV257TU0bw/s400/Leighton+Meester.jpg
Leighton Meester
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3594/daniellepanabakerm.jpg[/QUOTE]
Danielle Panabakern
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BkO1fat72jA/R41vbiWuUOI/AAAAAAAAA94/nn5QSb_r4ak/s320/Juliette+Binoche.jpg
Juliette Binoche
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Cvo4jwbe8wE/SkOuMbpADUI/AAAAAAAACpQ/PDX_G24S3rQ/s400/julia-ormond.jpg
Julia Ormond

[shankara]

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/125/000000141416amandalynns.jpg

http://bestof.provocateuse.com/images/photos/jonathan_rhys_meyers_99.jpg

:D

[chrysoprase]

Anagrams for Zooey Deschanel:

Has Oz Cloned Eye
Candy Heels Ooze


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/ScZgHmwd6KI/AAAAAAAAJ0g/8kSRYrHS7GY/s400/zooey_500 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/ScZk9ea151I/AAAAAAAAJ14/8WiZwTaQqRY/s400/Zooey_Deschanel

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/ScZhH020jmI/AAAAAAAAJ1o/lIpsokDXRbQ/s400/45381_Zooey_Deschanel__2004_What_A_Pair%21_Concert 13_122_469lo.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/ScZ0iP3VvBI/AAAAAAAAJ4E/Lf_96aC6a9o/s400/66478-2-122-892lo.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/ScZk9ntIF6I/AAAAAAAAJ2A/yboX0xtNVYw/s1600/Zooey_Deschanel_003eye.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/ScZ2lyCLHbI/AAAAAAAAJ5E/4iPcY1UxYUE/s400/1668wo.jpg

Pictures of Zooey from :http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2009/03/zooey-at-dollhouse.html

[diva_on_wheelz]

I don't know about you lot but Danielle Panabakern is really beautiful. It must be to do with the eyes because I love those warm brown eyes - stunning girl! Really hate Amanda from ANTM's eyes!

[chrysoprase]

Juliette Binoche is pictured on left, with Julia Ormond on right:

http://www.projo.com/photos/20071026/lb1026_binoche_10-26-07_0C7KAID.jpg http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Julia_Ormond/julia_ormond_image.jpg

http://estergoldberg.typepad.com/.a/6a0105349ca980970c011168cd224a970c-800wi http://www.lindsaylohanwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/julia-ormond.jpg

http://www.israelity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1007157311.jpg http://blog.cleveland.com/sun/intermission_impact/2008/12/medium_Julia_Ormond_Benjamin_Butto.jpg

http://mikedempsey.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5532538c48833010534dc01e9970c-800wi http://www.cairofilmfest.org/about/images/honor/forg/Julia.jpg

[emerald]

JULIA ORMOND made only a few movies in Hollywood in the 90's then she was gone. Mabe she was replaced back then? Besides she was married with politician JON RUBIN, but they divorced a few years after their daughter was born...

[chrysoprase]

Boy is my face red... :o:o:o

I checked on my TV listing to see when Dan in Real Life is playing next... and the actress in the movie is Juliet Binoche!

Either the previous listing was wrong, or I was just confused.:confused:

I will have to make sure to slow down and double check my facts in future postings.:D (and now, if I can only figure out how to add picture to my username?)

I still think there is something fishy though...:confused:

JULIA ORMOND made only a few movies in Hollywood in the 90's then she was gone. Mabe she was replaced back then? Besides she was married with politician JON RUBIN, but they divorced a few years after their daughter was born...

I think it is possible, and maybe even more than once.


On another note, I wonder about the Botox fad.

Was it about ten years ago that we started seeing Hollywood royalty without expression? And now, for some reason women in their 20's are going for that look? Is this a setup so we will get used to non-emotive faces / non-humans?

[emerald]

Too much MK or simply a memory loss? I know it happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON too a few years ago...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1210143/I-hope-dont-mind-Im-reading-words-Elton-John-spotted-using-autocue-1m-birthday-gig.html

[armoured_amazon]

Too much MK or simply a memory loss? I know it happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON too a few years ago...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1210143/I-hope-dont-mind-Im-reading-words-Elton-John-spotted-using-autocue-1m-birthday-gig.html

I can sing songs a hundred times and still forget the words - in fact, it's easier to forget the ones you know best, because you zone out into autopilot when singing them, and if you suddenly become aware you're in a trance, lol, your mind goes blank.

:)

[brainfreeze]

Too much MK or simply a memory loss? I know it happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON too a few years ago...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1210143/I-hope-dont-mind-Im-reading-words-Elton-John-spotted-using-autocue-1m-birthday-gig.html

After all the drugs that man has consumed I'm not surprised that his memory is shot.

[lostworld]

CATHERINE DENEUVE vs. GRACE KELLY

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8767/catherinedeneuve.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/catherinedeneuve.jpg/)http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/193/03941304gracekellyposte.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/03941304gracekellyposte.jpg/)


Kate Walsh from Grey's Anatomy has an even more striking resemblance to Catherine Deneuve. They even made an episode about it... :rolleyes:


Kate Walsh
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4477/29401781.jpg

[lostworld]

Thanks, lostworld. It was especially difficult because I happened to work with him and he was seeing someone else who worked there. But it ended up okay because both me and the othhr women dumped him simultaneously, and he became so angry, erratic and assholish that he ended up getting fired. So that made it easier to deal with.?

I also worked with my ex...! :p
He didn't get fired though since it was his own business... :(

Also, before he got fired, when I was so hurt, I had a dream and I saw myself happy; wearing these dangly crystal earrings. When I woke up I wanted to be happy like that and decided I had to have those earrings. I searched and couldn't find any like them... so I searched all over the internet and accidently came across a page that told me how to make earrings. Which started a frenzy of beading. It's great to find new hobbies! I collect vintage glass, crystal and semi-precious beads and make copper and silver jewelry and sell it at a local artist co-op and in a hotel gift shop. So broken hearts can be channeled into something creative!


What a great story! Good for you :)
Perhaps this also leads you to love... :rolleyes:
Talk about being lead to the right way. Dreams work in mysterious ways.

(and now, if I can only figure out how to add picture to my username?)


I've sent you the instructions in a pm to you. :)

[crystalline]

Hey guys, I'm not so good with pasting in links of pics so hopefully someone could do this for me? but I was watching the latest X files movie and Gillian Anderson looked totally different in this!:eek:

She also looked a lot like Heather Mills .

I would really appreciate if you could put the links in for me, thanks.

Also thankyou for the forum advice, I will check this out.

[lostworld]

Hey guys, I'm not so good with pasting in links of pics so hopefully someone could do this for me? but I was watching the latest X files movie and Gillian Anderson looked totally different in this!:eek:

She also looked a lot like Heather Mills .

I would really appreciate if you could put the links in for me, thanks.

Also thankyou for the forum advice, I will check this out.

Hi again Crystalline :)
Sure, no problem.
We'd just have to look for pics of Gillian from this movie...
It sounds interesting btw.

If you need help on how you can post images and links, contact me and I'll help you. It's not that hard.

Yes, I really hope those links I gave you may help you in some way. :)

[venusinpisces]

Crystalline, I haven't posted images before either so maybe we can learn this together. :) I'll tell you what I do and hopefully it will work.
First, I did a google image search (in a separate window) for "X-files movie Gillian Anderson" and then I clicked on the picture and copied the URL(website adress) by using the "copy" command under the Edit menu. I am using a mac but if you're on a PC , just right click and scroll down to find the same copy command. Then I clicked on the square yellow "attach image" box that you can see above every message you post. I then used the same menu the copy command is in to paste the URL. It pasted two "http://"s, since one is already in the "post image" box, so I just deleted one of them. The method I am using may not be what everyone does but it seems to have worked.
Hope that helps. Believe me, my overly articulated explanation makes this sound way more complicated than it actually is! :D
http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/photos/gillian-david-x-files-uk.jpg

[crystalline]

http://http://gilliananderson.ws/gallery/yes/yes?full=1

thanks for that venusinpieces!

If I've done it right then we have a classic butterfly fly pose of Gillian in the usual misogynistic manner. If not, it's back to college for basic IT skills lol
http://gilliananderson.ws/gallery/yes/yes

hopefully this link works

Sorry folks, I told you I was no good.

[venusinpisces]

Crystalline, I think what you did was to post the image under the "insert link" box, when you should have posted itunder the square yellow "insert image" box. If you hold the pointer(is that what it's called?) over the boxes and wait a minute, you will see text pop up that tells you what each one is for. If your computer is slow it may take a minute. Don't feel bad, I just took my first computer class last semester. Before that I didn't even know what an operating system was. :o

[siphon880di]

http://gilliananderson.ws/albums/yes/yes.sized.jpg

Right click the picture on the website. A popup menu appears. Check out the option called Properties.

There should be a "URL". Highlight that long URL by holding on the left click button from one side of the URL and dragging it to the other end. Right click, and click Copy on the new popup menu.

On the message board's Reply page, click the icon that has a mountain picture. It's in the row under "Fonts" dropdown menu.

A prompt window should appear. Internet Explorer, depending on settings, might ask you permission to view the popup. If nothing appears, your popup blocker is on.

In the popup, there's a textfield for you to type. Just right click inside of the textfield and click Paste on the new popup menu. The URL of the picture is now in the prompt of Upload Picture. Everything else is straightforwards.

[siphon880di]

Calvin Harris - I'm Not Alone - YouTube

Skip to 0:58 and watch it all the way through. What if this is reality? Surreal, isn't it?

[emerald]

Speaking of GILLIAN...

Bloodline too? No surprise...

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7946/gilliananderson006.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/gilliananderson006.jpg/)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9521/gilliananderson008.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/gilliananderson008.jpg/)

Troubled childhood/teenage life, first sexual encounter at 12, also shot some porn before being famous...

[emerald]

Some wonderful news. Inspired probably by MILEY CYRUS?

http://flisted.com/85085/pole-dancer-doll-teaches-girls-they-can-grow-up-to-be-whatever-they-want-such-as-a-stripper/

[lostworld]

Interesting pics of Gillian Anderson guys.

Here are some more:

One eye alien Gillian
- of course this is a hint to the X-files, but still - come on! :D
Notice how the alien has green eyes (normally they are depicted with deep black eyes) - a reference to the green light IMO (used in programming, seen in other MK symbolism too)

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3284/68120202rv5.jpg


One eye
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9667/73600127ya5.jpg


Sex-kitten in leopard and catsuit
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2163/gilliananderson5.jpghttp://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8527/gilliananderson7.jpghttp://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8910/gillianandersondanascul.jpg


Black and white
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9773/gilliananderson.jpghttp://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3766/gilliananderson1683673.jpg


The alter in the mirror...
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5744/29867270081a06392f3.jpg


Trance stare
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5877/gillianandersoncrazyeye.jpg

[lostworld]

Some wonderful news. Inspired probably by MILEY CYRUS?

http://flisted.com/85085/pole-dancer-doll-teaches-girls-they-can-grow-up-to-be-whatever-they-want-such-as-a-stripper/

What!!? :eek:
This is just insane... :mad:

[emerald]

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7510/35728lg.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/i/35728lg.jpg/)

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5994/g123856b.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/g123856b.jpg/)

Caught by another alien...

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/1171/gillianandersonesquirem.jpg (http://img2.imageshack.us/i/gillianandersonesquirem.jpg/)

The back of the chair has a pyramid on it it seems...

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8824/gilliananderson09.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/gilliananderson09.jpg/)

The doll on the bed

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2158/sfc7mh.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/sfc7mh.jpg/)

Some hint to mind splitting

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/152/wgilliananderson03.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/i/wgilliananderson03.jpg/)

[chrysoprase]

Below is a link to a youtube video featuring what I believe is a genuine Stepford Community of about 40,000 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

This video is a must see for anyone interested in all things Stepfordian. As you enter the community, there are three signs: One signs says "Exciting", the next "Friendly", and the third "Relaxing". A billboard reads "I (heart) Green Valley. A real community."

There is a building that has the words on it's side "Green Valley Assembly of" (the last word was not yet put up).

There are lifelike statues everywhere: kids playing, people waiting for the bus, a golfer, and even a window washer and a hitchiker!

Various voices drone in the background (some sound medicated). One women speaks of all the community has to offer and that you really don't have leave.

You see a pink house with chemtrails in the sky above.

And, my favorite: two lounge singers. The man reminds me, so much, of a robot who I saw at Disneyland when I was a kid. I think it is the way he blinks and moves his eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ChiYlqaMQc

I wanted to look at the Green Valley website itself; I got alot of hits on google but unfortunately none of them will connect for me. I get a message saying Domain name unknown please check again and retry.

Here is the google page:

302 Moved

I was able to find a real estate page, but it will not let me see any of their listings or even the real estate agent's face unless I give them my info first. And then, presumably, Adam D. Fenn will contact me. Uhhh, no thanks! :rolleyes:

http://www.greenvalleyranch-realestate.com/

http://www.homethinking.com/645574-A...it-Realty.html


As strange as the video itself is how I was guided to it.

Last night I had a dream in which I caught someone breaking into my house. I walked into my spare bedroom and there was a guy in there (he broke through the window). I recognized him as a man who had done some work in my house a few days ago. He ran outside and I ran after him.

His car was parked at the side of my house and in the car was his partner, another guy who looked just like him! I was yelling at him and tried to get his license number but he drove off real quick.

I went back in my house and remembered the company who he worked for was called "Oasis". I couldn't remember his name, so I grabbed my checkbook and saw that I had made it out to Jim Schneider. I wanted to call the police but decided to call Oasis first and let them know that their employee broke into my house.

When I got Oasis on the phone a woman started speaking; I tried to tell her that one of their employees broke into my house, but she was non-responsive to what I was saying and just talked over me as if she was answering me - but she wasn't. <frustrating!>

When I woke up I knew my spirit guide was trying to tell me something. Since I live in an old house in need of various repairs; I thought this was a warning not to deal with Oasis/Jim Schneider, as they will rip me off.

So I googled Oasis Jim Schneider to see of I could find anything that matched (here in Northern Arizona). And this is what I found!! A 9 minute film by Jim Schneider, made in 1993, and called Oasis! :confused::eek:

I have to laugh because every night I pray to God for guidance and direction as my life is in financial shambles. I have been unemployed since January, the government says I do not qualify for any assistance. And, I have been living off credit cards and prayers and the proverbial shit seems about ready to hit the fan. I am so desirous/needy of guidance because I do not know what the next step for me to take is and how to hold on to what I have and maintain stability in my life. And so I pray, hoping for answers in my dreams, because my spirit guide has always helped me this way. And.... so.. this is what I get in my dreams? LOL

**

So, I see "they" have gotten ahold of Gillian! :eek:

[lostworld]

Below is a link to a youtube video featuring what I believe is a genuine Stepford Community of about 40,000 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

This video is a must see for anyone interested in all things Stepfordian. As you enter the community, there are three signs: One signs says "Exciting", the next "Friendly", and the third "Relaxing". A billboard reads "I (heart) Green Valley. A real community."

There is a building that has the words on it's side "Green Valley Assembly of" (the last word was not yet put up).

There are lifelike statues everywhere: kids playing, people waiting for the bus, a golfer, and even a window washer and a hitchiker!

Various voices drone in the background (some sound medicated). One women speaks of all the community has to offer and that you really don't have leave.

You see a pink house with chemtrails in the sky above.

And, my favorite: two lounge singers. The man reminds me, so much, of a robot who I saw at Disneyland when I was a kid. I think it is the way he blinks and moves his eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ChiYlqaMQc

I wanted to look at the Green Valley website itself; I got alot of hits on google but unfortunately none of them will connect for me. I get a message saying Domain name unknown please check again and retry.

Here is the google page:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

I was able to find a real estate page, but it will not let me see any of their listings or even the real estate agent's face unless I give them my info first. And then, presumably, Adam D. Fenn will contact me. Uhhh, no thanks! :rolleyes:

http://www.greenvalleyranch-realestate.com/

http://www.homethinking.com/645574-A...it-Realty.html

:

Wow! :eek: Stepford City, how bizarre...

The lifelike statues freaks me out. Very, very strange. It's looks like "utopia" from one of Jehova's Witnesses magazines...



As strange as the video itself is how I was guided to it.

Last night I had a dream in which I caught someone breaking into my house. I walked into my spare bedroom and there was a guy in there (he broke through the window). I recognized him as a man who had done some work in my house a few days ago. He ran outside and I ran after him.

His car was parked at the side of my house and in the car was his partner, another guy who looked just like him! I was yelling at him and tried to get his license number but he drove off real quick.

I went back in my house and remembered the company who he worked for was called "Oasis". I couldn't remember his name, so I grabbed my checkbook and saw that I had made it out to Jim Schneider. I wanted to call the police but decided to call Oasis first and let them know that their employee broke into my house.

When I got Oasis on the phone a woman started speaking; I tried to tell her that one of their employees broke into my house, but she was non-responsive to what I was saying and just talked over me as if she was answering me - but she wasn't. <frustrating!>

When I woke up I knew my spirit guide was trying to tell me something. Since I live in an old house in need of various repairs; I thought this was a warning not to deal with Oasis/Jim Schneider, as they will rip me off.

So I googled Oasis Jim Schneider to see of I could find anything that matched (here in Northern Arizona). And this is what I found!! A 9 minute film by Jim Schneider, made in 1993, and called Oasis! :confused::eek:

I have to laugh because every night I pray to God for guidance and direction as my life is in financial shambles. I have been unemployed since January, the government says I do not qualify for any assistance. And, I have been living off credit cards and prayers and the proverbial shit seems about ready to hit the fan. I am so desirous/needy of guidance because I do not know what the next step for me to take is and how to hold on to what I have and maintain stability in my life. And so I pray, hoping for answers in my dreams, because my spirit guide has always helped me this way. And.... so.. this is what I get in my dreams? LOL :

What an amazing story :)
Your dreams lead you to even more awakening. How great!

I'm so sorry to hear about your difficult situation. It must be very difficult and frustrating. You sound strong though and that always help a lot... stay sharp!
Maybe this is just one step (that you are giving these dreams that lead to more awakening) and in the end it will also help you solve your situation...?
Let's hope. :) There must be some way out of this.

[chrysoprase]

What an amazing story
Your dreams lead you to even more awakening. How great!

I'm so sorry to hear about your difficult situation. It must be very difficult and frustrating. You sound strong though and that always help a lot... stay sharp!
Maybe this is just one step (that you are giving these dreams that lead to more awakening) and in the end it will also help you solve your situation...?
Let's hope. There must be some way out of this.


Thanks, lostworld! Since I so rarely get an actual name or date in my dreams, I am taking comfort in the thought that someone is making an effort to speak to me (guide me); so that must mean they hear me too, right?

So, therefore, I am happy today just thinking that if I am heard, and if my guide knows what my situation is, but thinks this was important to communicate to me; could that mean that they know I am going to be okay? - And that they are showing me this now, because they know how hard I am trying to connect/listening?

By the way, I just rewatched the video and the female lounge singer (she appears 3 or 4 times) looks quite like Gillian! Funny coincidence considering the timing of the posts. ;)

[chrysoprase]

The lifelike statues freaks me out. Very, very strange. It's looks like "utopia" from one of Jehova's Witnesses magazines...


It's funny that you say this, as I never saw that... however, for the past several weeks I have been pestered by Jehova's Witnesses.

I accepted a bible from them (I told them I already had one, but they said that this one had an interpretation that might be easier to understand). And now... they act like I owe them something. (And believe, if I had money to spare I would probably give them a few bucks and let them go on their way). I don't want to give them their bible back because that might create a weird situation/stance.

Sometimes, when they come to my door I don't answer, and they wait a little too long for comfort to go away. Sometimes, I will answer the door with a phone in my hand, or tell them it is a bad time. I am waiting for them to get the message. But now, I wonder if this dream was warning me that these people might be trying to recruit me to live in Green Valley. :p And, given my rather desparate situation, this dream is saying "No Way"!

But, honestly, I don't think that is what it is. I went to Las Vegas a long time ago, and have never wanted to return. It is just not my schtick.

[siphon880di]

...spirit guide...

I know this might sound crazy to you. But in my experience, spirit guides were nice until you decide to go on your own way, then they desperately try to latch onto you.

I don't think spirit guides were with everyone until people try to look for them. Then the spirit guides stay around like it needs your energy.

But I'm not the only person that experienced this. A friend also has. That's how I know I didn't imagine it / reflected it / etc whatever the current new age philosophy is.

Btw, prayers can be blocked by spirits. It said so in the bible.

[engelsblume]

Wow Gillian Anderson as well? :eek:

btw guys, I'm obviously living in a masonic central country. Check out my country's flag. Should I be packing my stuff? :D

http://www.classroomlaw.org/images/croatian_flag_250.jpg

[americana]

Hey, Chrysoprase

Aren't the prices of the Green Valley homes a little HIGH, given the economic situation in the US, and particularly in Las Vegas and the surrounding communities???? It's my understanding that there are tons of foreclosures out there. Do you have the means to go down there and look around? You might learn something about the path you are supposed to take!

I am sorry to hear about your situation. It is inconceivable that the gov't won't give you any assistance. Have you tried any private charities? I just said a little prayer for you and a friend I just spoke to who is in a similar situation.

[lara]

First post here. I'm sorry if my post and timing are not good, but thought I'd share my opinions on this thread.

The initial reaction I read to reading the comments here was that this is an important subject. I would like to commend the thread starter and all its contributors for providing a lot of interesting insights.

However - think you saw this coming? - there are a few criticisms I'd like to offer here.

The main problem I've got with the thread is that it's too image heavy.

I get it. It's about symbols, which are, obviously, images, but I feel a little discretion should be applied here, because many posts become too superficial because they're reduced to 'hey, look this girl looks like this girl, who looked like this girl', etcetcetc.

Otherwise, this is an amazing discussion.

[douriff]

Wow Gillian Anderson as well? :eek:

btw guys, I'm obviously living in a masonic central country. Check out my country's flag. Should I be packing my stuff? :D

http://www.classroomlaw.org/images/croatian_flag_250.jpg

me too :rolleyes:

I was pretty amazed to see Croatian coat of arms on my favorite thread here, but yet...this is a very interesting contribution.
What first came to my mind is Fellowship of Croatian Dragon Brotherhood, they were pretty busy at the beginnings of Croatian "independancy"... Have you heard of them?
http://www.braca-hrvatskoga-zmaja.hr/
they are part of the Order of the Dragon
Order of the Dragon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

peculiar, indeed

they could have choose older emblem - six pointed star and the moon - one that is first in the row of smaller arm on the top of chess board.

[engelsblume]

me too :rolleyes:

I was pretty amazed to see Croatian coat of arms on my favorite thread here, but yet...this is a very interesting contribution.
What first came to my mind is Fellowship of Croatian Dragon Brotherhood, they were pretty busy at the beginnings of Croatian "independancy"... Have you heard of them?
http://www.braca-hrvatskoga-zmaja.hr/
they are part of the Order of the Dragon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

peculiar, indeed

they could have choose older emblem - six pointed star and the moon - one that is first in the row of smaller arm on the top of chess board.

Yes, I have heard of them but never did any research. Gonna check out that link this second. Thanks!

[chrysoprase]

I know this might sound crazy to you. But in my experience, spirit guides were nice until you decide to go on your own way, then they desperately try to latch onto you.

Simply put... it's not like that. I grew up in a troubled situation and I always felt a presence that showed me how to keep my head about things, how to survive, and that when it was over, not only would I be all the stronger and wiser for it, but that I would have a great deal of compassion for others. But there was no "latching onto" on either side of things. Just acknowledgement.

I don't think spirit guides were with everyone until people try to look for them. Then the spirit guides stay around like it needs your energy.


I disagree. I think we all have spirit guides, as well as a guardian angel. I did not go looking for them. I have gone merrily along my way not even thinking about it. But sometimes their presence is made known to me. Like the time I felt invisible hands push me out of the way of oncoming physical danger that I was unaware of.:eek:

Or the time when I was feeling especially despondent (not thinking about any other dimension but my own and feeling sorry for myself) and I felt hands on my back straightening me up, smoothing the back of my shirt, and pulling me to attention. (I got the feeling I was being told to put my head up and get some self-esteem!;)

It's a funny thing that when these things happen (or when I am given detailed information in a dream) I most certainly do no feel my energy syphoned. Quite the opposite - I feel such a good surge of positive energy, which makes my feel able - completely able and strong to accomplish whatever I need to do to move forward.

I try to learn from all that I experience. And I know that when I go through bad things that there is a reason for it (spiritual growth and understanding). Sometimes the most valuable lessons are the hardest. Think of a pearl, it's beauty comes from having a great deal of friction (sand) applied to it.

But I'm not the only person that experienced this. A friend also has. That's how I know I didn't imagine it / reflected it / etc whatever the current new age philosophy is.


I do not belong nor subscribe to new age philosophy. I do live in an area where it is abundant. No, I made my choice long ago and have never wavered. My faith, belief and love is strong for my one and only God (and not those who tinkered with my ancestors DNA) and my Saviour (who indeed did save me and appear - in 1984). I am forever grateful for that appearance. I guess I needed it, because there would be many times in the future that I would need that reassurance of total faith in my salvation.

Btw, prayers can be blocked by spirits. It said so in the bible.


Really? How sad and... Whatever!

Prayers are not always answered in the manner in which we expect or want. I do believe they are heard. But our motives and true underlying desires are heard right along with them. Our hearts and intentions are an open book. So the spirit that is blocking prayers may be the spirit of the one praying.

******
I just said a little prayer for you and a friend I just spoke to who is in a similar situation.

Americana! Thank you so much, Sweetheart! I appreciate more than you know!

[amethyst]

Below is a link to a youtube video featuring what I believe is a genuine Stepford Community of about 40,000 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

This video is a must see for anyone interested in all things Stepfordian. As you enter the community, there are three signs: One signs says "Exciting", the next "Friendly", and the third "Relaxing". A billboard reads "I (heart) Green Valley. A real community."

There is a building that has the words on it's side "Green Valley Assembly of" (the last word was not yet put up).

There are lifelike statues everywhere: kids playing, people waiting for the bus, a golfer, and even a window washer and a hitchiker!

Various voices drone in the background (some sound medicated). One women speaks of all the community has to offer and that you really don't have leave.

You see a pink house with chemtrails in the sky above.

And, my favorite: two lounge singers. The man reminds me, so much, of a robot who I saw at Disneyland when I was a kid. I think it is the way he blinks and moves his eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ChiYlqaMQc

I wanted to look at the Green Valley website itself; I got alot of hits on google but unfortunately none of them will connect for me. I get a message saying Domain name unknown please check again and retry.

Here is the google page:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

I was able to find a real estate page, but it will not let me see any of their listings or even the real estate agent's face unless I give them my info first. And then, presumably, Adam D. Fenn will contact me. Uhhh, no thanks! :rolleyes:

http://www.greenvalleyranch-realestate.com/

http://www.homethinking.com/645574-A...it-Realty.html


As strange as the video itself is how I was guided to it.

Last night I had a dream in which I caught someone breaking into my house. I walked into my spare bedroom and there was a guy in there (he broke through the window). I recognized him as a man who had done some work in my house a few days ago. He ran outside and I ran after him.

His car was parked at the side of my house and in the car was his partner, another guy who looked just like him! I was yelling at him and tried to get his license number but he drove off real quick.

I went back in my house and remembered the company who he worked for was called "Oasis". I couldn't remember his name, so I grabbed my checkbook and saw that I had made it out to Jim Schneider. I wanted to call the police but decided to call Oasis first and let them know that their employee broke into my house.

When I got Oasis on the phone a woman started speaking; I tried to tell her that one of their employees broke into my house, but she was non-responsive to what I was saying and just talked over me as if she was answering me - but she wasn't. <frustrating!>

When I woke up I knew my spirit guide was trying to tell me something. Since I live in an old house in need of various repairs; I thought this was a warning not to deal with Oasis/Jim Schneider, as they will rip me off.

So I googled Oasis Jim Schneider to see of I could find anything that matched (here in Northern Arizona). And this is what I found!! A 9 minute film by Jim Schneider, made in 1993, and called Oasis! :confused::eek:

I have to laugh because every night I pray to God for guidance and direction as my life is in financial shambles. I have been unemployed since January, the government says I do not qualify for any assistance. And, I have been living off credit cards and prayers and the proverbial shit seems about ready to hit the fan. I am so desirous/needy of guidance because I do not know what the next step for me to take is and how to hold on to what I have and maintain stability in my life. And so I pray, hoping for answers in my dreams, because my spirit guide has always helped me this way. And.... so.. this is what I get in my dreams? LOL

**

So, I see "they" have gotten ahold of Gillian! :eek:

That video is seriously bizarre!

You have wonder about the "minds" who created that "perfect" community.....freakily smiling statues, cookie cutter homes, everyone eating processed wonder bread sandwhiches at picnics on their artificially constructed parks and lawns.....

Sad thing is, many people think it is utopia :eek: if they're willing to pay upwards of 1,000,000+ for it...

Reminds me of that Jim Carrey movie....'The Truman Show"

[lostworld]

First post here. I'm sorry if my post and timing are not good, but thought I'd share my opinions on this thread.

The initial reaction I read to reading the comments here was that this is an important subject. I would like to commend the thread starter and all its contributors for providing a lot of interesting insights.

However - think you saw this coming? - there are a few criticisms I'd like to offer here.

The main problem I've got with the thread is that it's too image heavy.

I get it. It's about symbols, which are, obviously, images, but I feel a little discretion should be applied here, because many posts become too superficial because they're reduced to 'hey, look this girl looks like this girl, who looked like this girl', etcetcetc.

Otherwise, this is an amazing discussion.

Hi Lara,
and welcome to the thread :)

I would like to commend the thread starter and all its contributors for providing a lot of interesting insights.


Thanks! :)

Just like you say this is an important subject. And it looks like a lot of people agree with us on this since this thread has become so popular and is still attracting new readers and contributers. I never thought I'd have this response when I started this thread over 8 months ago... So I'm very glad :)

Now, over to your criticism: I personally like images and to work with them. And they are very important to illustrate what we're talking about here. The symbolism is repeating itself and you see the same things everywhere, on so many celebrities etc. So posting images is crucial to make your point and to display the pattern of this kind of symbolism.

I understand what you're saying though...
* Sometimes I've had theme-series here of certain topics, and after that of course there will be lots of readers contributing with images showing the same thing that the series was about. Which I think is great though.

* There can also be somewhat of a "trend" going on in the thread, like with the celebrity-look alikes for instance. Suddenly many readers post about which celebrity looks like another celebrity etc. I guess this is a fairly easy subject to post about, it doesn't take any "special skills" or lots of knowledge about MK symbolism and mind control etc to see if a person looks like another. So people then have the courage to post, which I also think is great.
People think it's interesting and also fun I guess to find these celebrity look-alikes. Everybody doesn't have to agree with the findings though but that's another thing...

I guess everone has their own opinion about this, whether there should be more images, if it's fine as it is or if it should be less.
Also, there is no editor here, everyone can contribute which of course is what a forum is about. That way there will not always be that "read thread" or structure that you perhaps would want if you just posted everything yourself - at the same time that's the charm of it all, and also what keeps the thread move forward.

Thanks for your input Lara and I'll hope you continue to read the thread. :)

/ Lostworld

[jo_6]

Actress Megan Fox, gives a revealing interview to Wonderland magazine in the U.K. In it she discusses serious insecurities and body image issues she has with herself and also talks about how she’s fascinated with Marilyn Monroe. Fox says she fears meeting with an end similar to her idol.


“I basically read every book ever written about Marilyn Monroe,” she says. “I could end up like that because I constantly struggle with the idea that I think I’m a borderline personality—or that I have bouts of mild schizophrenia. I definitely have some kind of mental problem and I haven’t pinpointed what it is.”


Perhaps its the programming? Because she's not a 'whole' integrated personality?

[chrysoprase]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FZpxPLnjqs0/SSMd6FJqwLI/AAAAAAAABaQ/fHENIWRsMUk/s400/megan-

For whatever reason, she seems to have embraced the idea of being another "Marilyn". That could possibly be brainwashing, as well as her issues and insecurities she has with her body image - they are clearly not related to reality, and are not coming from truth.


Aren't the prices of the Green Valley homes a little HIGH, given the economic situation in the US, and particularly in Las Vegas and the surrounding communities???? It's my understanding that there are tons of foreclosures out there. Do you have the means to go down there and look around? You might learn something about the path you are supposed to take!


Bite your tongue, Americana! I don't even want to entertain the idea of checking out Green Valley. I might be kidnapped off the street and replaced with a humanoid. The next thing you know, I am a lounge singer.

Or, I could be ushered into one of those strange buildings, pumped full of anesthesia, posed, covered with hot lead and paint - and then propped on the street to greet the newcomers.

That place just looks evil to me. I wonder who they are really worshipping, and if they themselves are aware of it.

I think if I can just get through the next few years, everything will be A-OK. As a Virgo, I am a natural worrier. So I keep on reminding myself to live in the moment, and if at this moment I have the means to talk on this thread, then it can't be all that bad.;) (and don't ever underestimate the power of your prayer - thanks again!)

[americana]

Megan Fox shows off her dark side as she channels the spirit of the Eighties in magazine shoot
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 3:43 PM on 01st September 2009

In a new interview this week, Megan Fox admitted she had huge insecurities about her stunning looks, claiming she doesn't 'like being seen'.

But despite her protests, it sure looked like the 23-year-old is comfortable with her looks and in front of a camera as she strikes a series of sexy poses for a new magazine shoot.

In the pictorial for British magazine Wonderland, Megan embraces the fashions of the Eighties for the desert shoot.

In the sexy shots, taken by photographer Mariano Vivanco, Megan poses in a series of black outfits with her normally straight black hair curled in a wild perm.

She seems to be fully aware of her sexuality as she shows off her fabulous figure in tight-fitting outfits and gives the camera a knowing look.

Her sultry appearance contradicts an interview she gave to the American edition of Cosmopolitan magazine this month, in which she claimed she was 'hysterically insecure'.

She told the October issue of Cosmopolitan: 'I'm very confident in how I project my personality.

'But in terms of how I look, I'm completely, hysterically insecure. I'm self-loathing, introverted and neurotic.


'I don't like being seen. I want to be invisible.'

In another contradiction, the Transformers star reveals how she likes to 'collect' attractive men.

Referring to her on/off relationship with ex-fiancé Brian Austin Green - which is currently thought to be 'on', Megan said she can flip commitment on and off like a switch.

She explained: 'I can flip on a switch in my brain, and even if the next Brad Pitt is standing next to me, I won't look at him. But I can also turn that switch off, and then I collect attractive boys.'

Megan admits she likes toying with men and has put several Hollywood men 'in their place'.

She said: 'It's fun when someone intends to put you in his back pocket, but instead, he walks away wounded. I make it a mind game so they don't know if I'm hitting on them or mocking them.

'Male actors drop lines about their private jets, trying to seem powerful, but I don't give a s**t. I don't need someone else's power. I'm obtaining my own.
'Women hold the power because we have the vaginas. If you're in a heterosexual relationship and you're a female, you win.'

Megan is currently promoting her first leading movie role in Jennifer's Body, in which she plays a possessed cheerleader who tries to kill all her schoolmates.
The film also stars Mamma Mia! actress Amanda Seyfried and involves a gratuitous scene which shows the two kissing.

Megan said: 'There’s a girl-on-girl kiss. This movie is so sexy. You better put on your sexy shoes for this one.

'I feel much safer with girls, so I felt more comfortable kissing her in the movie than kissing any of the other people that I had to kiss.
'I think she [Amanda] was extremely uncomfortable. I don't think that, I know that.
'She was not comfortable and there was a lot of laughing, like, giggling fits that happened in between takes.'
To find out more about Megan's shoot, visit Wonderland magazine's official website.
See the article and photographs HERE (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1210473/Megan-Fox-shows-dark-channels-Eighties-magazine-shoot.html)

Is SHE turning the switch on and off . . . or . . .

[lostworld]

Is SHE turning the switch on and off . . . or . . .

That's a very good question... :rolleyes:

[lara]

Hi Lara,
and welcome to the thread :)



Thanks! :)

Just like you say this is an important subject. And it looks like a lot of people agree with us on this since this thread has become so popular and is still attracting new readers and contributers. I never thought I'd have this response when I started this thread over 8 months ago... So I'm very glad :)

Now, over to your criticism: I personally like images and to work with them. And they are very important to illustrate what we're talking about here. The symbolism is repeating itself and you see the same things everywhere, on so many celebrities etc. So posting images is crucial to make your point and to display the pattern of this kind of symbolism.

I understand what you're saying though...
* Sometimes I've hade theme-series here of certain topics, and after that of course there will be lots of readers contributing with images showing the same thing that the series was about. Which I think is great though.

* There can also be somewhat of a "trend" going on in the thread, like with the celebrity-look alikes for instance. Suddenly many readers post about which celebrity looks like another celebrity etc. I guess this is a fairly easy subject to post about, it doesn't take any "special skills" or lots of knowledge about MK symbolism and mind control etc to see if a person looks like another. So people then have the courage to post, which I also think is great.
People think it's interesting and also fun I guess to find these celebrity look-alikes. Everybody doesn't have to agree with the findings though but that's another thing...

I guess everone has their own opinion about this, whether there should be less images, if it's fine as it is or if it should be less.
Also, there is no editor here, everyone can contribute which of course is what a forum is about. That way there will not always be that "read thread" or structure that you perhaps would want if you just posted everything yourself - at the same time that's the charm of it all, and also what keeps the thread move forward.

Thanks for your input Lara and I'll hope you continue to read the thread. :)

/ Lostworld

You seem to be a very gracious thread host and take criticism well. Then again, it's not personally aimed at you or any other poster here anyway.

The length of this thread might discourage people from reading it in its entirety and this might have somewhat of a bad effect.

It took me a week to read from start to finish, even if I just skimmed past the look alike comparisons.

Not sure how many people would be willing to do that and react to the information here by being engaged in the subject. It looks like the most common result of this is that people select reading some material and only fixate on a subject, while ignoring everyone else.

That's the other problem I have: someone brings up a subject, next person completely ignores it and moves on to something else. Topics don't really seem to get discussed. There's an air of superficiality to everything, or, because nobody bothers to debate someone's points, it looks like posts are unanimously agreed upon.

Like you said though, this thread has no editors and people are free to post their thoughts. The freedom is great and despite some shortcomings, I still got something out of this.

My own contribution to this thread (just so no one thinks I am trying to hijack it without offering anything) comes from some observations I collected at the job: mental illnesses are overly diagnosed in America. No surprise there and how is this related to our discussion here?

Well, I couldn't help but think that day after day, as new patients arrive, there must be someone behind this, telling people to self diagnose themselves and 'reach out for help'. The propaganda is obviously coming from the media and the images presented here are very sinister and seem to have various degrees of disturbing emotions which people might be reacting to.

Hope that makes sense. That is my take on the effects of mind control through entertainment on the general public. Nothing original, but I thought I would share that with you instead of bringing up images of celebrities looking weird. Not that there's anything wrong with that either.

[lostworld]

Gamer - who's playing you?

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5310/gamer.jpg


Interesting new movie here, "Gamer", about modern day gladiators (slayers) controlled by other humans in a game.

Check out the storyline: :eek:
"Set in the near future, a time when mind-control technology has taken society by storm. Humans control other humans in a mass-scale, multiplayer online game.
Reclusive billionaire Ken Castle has created the controversial form of entertainment, "Slayers," a hugely popular game that allows millions to act out their innermost desires and fantasies -- online -- in front of a global audience, using real prisoners as avatars with whom they fight to the death. Gaming has evolved into a terrifying new dimension-mind control-manipulation-people playing people. At the center is Kable, the superstar and cult hero of "Slayers," the savage, ultra-violent first person shooter game. Kable is controlled by Simon, a young gamer with rock star status who continues to defy all odds by guiding Kable to victory each week. Taken from his family, imprisoned and forced to fight against his will, the modern day gladiator must survive long enough to escape the game to free his family, regain his identity and to save mankind from Castle's ruthless technology."

How about that? :rolleyes:
Remember, they always show us parts of the truth up there on the big screen...

Official website: warning though - I think this site might have a triggering function. The site is designed as a game in itself and I felt it "going to my head" right away, I got a headache almost immediately after entering. They've also added loud music and sound effects to it to increase the triggering IMO, so turn off the volume before entering is a good idea.
http://www.gamerthemovie.com/

Gamer movie trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RfqAIGBLE

[lara]

Film looks like a cross of The Matrix and Existenz.

Btw, online games seem to also be filled with symbolism and possible mind control themes at the present. It's interesting to think what they will be like in the future if we look at the state they're in right now.

Always thought that these online games mirror our society and if you look at it that way, you'll see people killing each other - player versus player is a popular feature - for character development and 'fun'. Just what we learn from the tv and movies: it's okay to do anything to accomplish our selfish goals.

[lara]

Just thought I want to bring this up, cos it's something I am familiar with and somewhat related to here:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml

Just look at that imagery...

Now one thing I find amusing that happened in that game: the 'stepforded' developers.

I know some of those people. They used to play another little game (sarcasm) called Everquest.

One of them used to be a normal person. Well, as normal as anyone would imagine and not like the basement dweller people imagine gamers are. He was an oncologist in real life before he switched into this 'legendary' gamer and started a website.

Years later, Everquest is no longer popular - a lot of that downfall was on SOE, but, conveniently, this dude exposed SOE's lack of 'care' in his forum day after day - and same dude is now a quest developer for Blizzard.

Final side note on this (likely uninteresting story), these are the people who control Blizzard now:

http://www.vivendi.com/vivendi/-accueil-en-

[lostworld]

You seem to be a very gracious thread host and take criticism well. Then again, it's not personally aimed at you or any other poster here anyway.

Thanks :) I know it's not personal.

The length of this thread might discourage people from reading it in its entirety and this might have somewhat of a bad effect.

It took me a week to read from start to finish, even if I just skimmed past the look alike comparisons.

Not sure how many people would be willing to do that and react to the information here by being engaged in the subject. It looks like the most common result of this is that people select reading some material and only fixate on a subject, while ignoring everyone else.

First: I'm glad this thread is long cause it proves that we're getting the message out and that people wanna read about it & post their own thoughts and findings. We're all helping each other in finding the missing pieces of the truth... I know this thread has helped a lot of people (many has contacted me personally) and what is better than that? :)

I never expect anyone to go through the whole thread. Many have though, and a lot of them have been posting about it here. That's great of course.
There are also a lot of readers and contributers who've been here from the start so they are very much informed and updated...
There's a great variation among the readers, some have more knowledge of this subject than others, but in general I have to say that many are very aware from the start. Probably why they are on Icke in the first place...

However, I think many of us try to not be to casual about these things, and always remember to also explain what we're talking about and not only present an image, which perhaps makes no sense to a newbie.
I constantly, in my posts, repeat what the symbolism is about and what it represents - just cause I know that there may be some new readers who hasn't been with us from the start, and who perhaps know less about this subject.

That's the other problem I have: someone brings up a subject, next person completely ignores it and moves on to something else. Topics don't really seem to get discussed. There's an air of superficiality to everything, or, because nobody bothers to debate someone's points, it looks like posts are unanimously agreed upon.

Like you said though, this thread has no editors and people are free to post their thoughts. The freedom is great and despite some shortcomings, I still got something out of this.

Yeah, again this is the nature of a forum. I guess we've so far been very free from "haters" here on Stepford so it hasn't been that debate that you can see in other threads (PID/Paul is dead, for instance) where you have to defend yourself all the time.
We seem to agree on many things here. Perhaps that's not good for the discussion and moving things forward, but on the other hand I don't like it to be as in those other threads mentioned either. Something in between perhaps...? Again, we can't control who posts where and about what...

My own contribution to this thread (just so no one thinks I am trying to hijack it without offering anything) comes from some observations I collected at the job: mental illnesses are overly diagnosed in America. No surprise there and how is this related to our discussion here?

Well, I couldn't help but think that day after day, as new patients arrive, there must be someone behind this, telling people to self diagnose themselves and 'reach out for help'. The propaganda is obviously coming from the media and the images presented here are very sinister and seem to have various degrees of disturbing emotions which people might be reacting to.

Hope that makes sense. That is my take on the effects of mind control through entertainment on the general public. Nothing original, but I thought I would share that with you instead of bringing up images of celebrities looking weird. Not that there's anything wrong with that either.

Thanks for sharing that. Absolutely, I think this is no coincidence either...
And it's the same thing here in Europe too.
I haven't researched about this so I don't know much of what can be the possible agenda here. Perhaps it's something with the drugs? Just like the discussion now about the swine flu vaccine? Maybe it's control for the masses somehow?

In the past, mental illnesses used to be taboo to talk about. Now it's everywhere and everybody has one it seems, and almost wants to be diagnosed with one!
It's become part of people's everyday life.

It seems very probable that there is some agenda behind it, that turned people's opinion about mental illnesses from negative and taboo to what it is now: almost a trend and something everyone more or less diagnose themselves with.

[lostworld]

Film looks like a cross of The Matrix and Existenz.

Btw, online games seem to also be filled with symbolism and possible mind control themes at the present. It's interesting to think what they will be like in the future if we look at the state they're in right now.

Always thought that these online games mirror our society and if you look at it that way, you'll see people killing each other - player versus player is a popular feature - for character development and 'fun'. Just what we learn from the tv and movies: it's okay to do anything to accomplish our selfish goals.


Just thought I want to bring this up, cos it's something I am familiar with and somewhat related to here:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml

Just look at that imagery...

Now one thing I find amusing that happened in that game: the 'stepforded' developers.

I know some of those people. They used to play another little game (sarcasm) called Everquest.

One of them used to be a normal person. Well, as normal as anyone would imagine and not like the basement dweller people imagine gamers are. He was an oncologist in real life before he switched into this 'legendary' gamer and started a website.

Years later, Everquest is no longer popular - a lot of that downfall was on SOE, but, conveniently, this dude exposed SOE's lack of 'care' in his forum day after day - and same dude is now a quest developer for Blizzard.

Final side note on this (likely uninteresting story), these are the people who control Blizzard now:

http://www.vivendi.com/vivendi/-accueil-en-

Thanks a lot for that info Lara.

I don't play any games myself so this is very interesting to hear.
From what I've seen in this field without digging into it further there seems to be, just like you say, lots of symbolism etc here too.

Games must be the ultimate tool for mind control IMO. What better way to effect an audience than when you have the full attention from a focused player, who interacts with your product/concept/agenda? Whatever they're "selling" here must go straight to the person's brain...
We all know about the debate that's been going on for years about violence/aggression that's perhaps caused and triggered by games. Could this be a consequense of mind control?
(Decades before the same debate was about violence caused by movies and videos.)

I'd welcome more posts about this subject - especially since it's not been posted and debated here before.

[lara]

Hey, I agree with you that it's the nature of forums, Discussions move much faster and topics are always being recycled, overlooked, or debated to death (like the Cyrus, but, to be fair, there's a lot to debate there.)

I just wanted to point that out though, because sometimes I feel like I'm having dinner with my family, where everyone's doing the talking and not listening at the same time. You know what I mean? That's what I get when I see a post about Katie Perry, then the next minute we're talking about some random model.

I'm just a nurse in training, but I still see this everyday regarding seemingly normal people coming in and exiting with a mental condition.

The drugs which can have mood altering qualities as side effects are the ones I'm most averse to. I'm sure we'll eventually get to the point where medication will become more precise, if you will, and address only an specific condition, instead of being something you take for pain and get a side effect of becoming oblivious to the world, like Vicodin.

Edited again: I'm sorry for the tardiness. This post was in reference to your earlier post addressing my criticisms.

I really need to get a hang of forums! I usually don't talk much in real life. I just 'stumbled' upon this board (you know the firefox add-on) and was compelled to participate for some reason.

[lara]

Thanks a lot for that info Lara.

I don't play any games myself so this is very interesting to hear.
From what I've seen in this field without digging into it further there seems to be, just like you say, lots of symbolism etc here too.

Games must be the ultimate tool for mind control IMO. What better way to effect an audience than when you have the full attention from a focused player, who interacts with your product/concept/agenda? Whatever they're "selling" here must go straight to the person's brain...
We all know about the debate that's been going on for years about violence/aggression that's perhaps caused and triggered by games. Could this be a consequense of mind control?
(Decades before the same debate was about violence caused by movies and videos.)

I'd welcome more posts about this subject - especially since it's not been posted and debated here before.

Hiya, yeah...

I've been playing these games since 13.

I have also been to many of those gaming/comic events and let me tell you, sometimes I wonder if some of those people have not lost their own will to something... I don't know what though.

Maybe there is already a thread on games(pc or console symbolism)?

It might be a good idea to discuss that somewhere else, seeing how your thread is more about Hollywood and how it's a major mind control tool?

[faulconandsnowjob]

More on mind control. The whole series is good.

THE MATRIX, MELANIN, THE BLACK DOT AND MIND CONTROL DR PHIL VALENTINE PT 1 - YouTube

THE MATRIX, MELANIN, THE BLACK DOT AND MIND CONTROL DR PHIL VALENTINE PT 2 - YouTube

This one on Hollywood in particular:

THE MATRIX, MELANIN, THE BLACK DOT AND MIND CONTROL DR PHIL VALENTINE PT 6 - YouTube