Freeman bond money/dividend cheque evidence

[1694]

Has anyone got a pic or a bank statement of one of these? Even the gurus of the movement only ever claim to know someone who is drawing the money.

Genuine question (even though its from me), plent of other people have asked about this too. So if anyone can link stick it here.

Have watched tons of vids and read plenty of sites, but so far not seen the "green."

Cheers.

[friendsinthesky]

..and it's possible that you won't. If I had what you're looking for I wouldn't publicly post it. There are too many folks out there who are always looking for a easier way to make a quick buck and your question gives me the feeling you're the latter. Here's a hug instead.

[1694]

That is a strage position to take!?

If you read my other posts (now in the rant room) you will see infact I don't really believe the moral arguments for using bond money (you are just agreeing to borrowing and the money creation that comes with it), and think that if you opt out of taxation you should be denied all the benefits that come from it.

The freemen however state that your bond is your moral right it is not making a quick buck, the bond money is not a real gain in money you are mearly "not having money stolen."

(If the money gained from the freeman bond can be exchanged for goods and services without a good or service produce to back its own production, that money lacks moral integrity.)

Thanks for the hug though, it takes the sting out of the judging :)

[friendsinthesky]

That is a strage position to take!?

If you read my other posts (now in the rant room) you will see infact I don't really believe the moral arguments for using bond money (you are just agreeing to borrowing and the money creation that comes with it), and think that if you opt out of taxation you should be denied all the benefits that come from it.

Now you're sounding envy.

Thanks for the hug though, it takes the sting out of the judging :)

Here's another.

:)

[1694]

Now you're sounding envy.

If everyone could do it it wouldn't be a problem, but we can't. Those who recieve the benefits whilst others do the work will always be masters over slaves whatever hat they wear.

Here's another.

:)

Thanks again, though maybe next time make it a hand shake...I think people are starting to get the wrong idea about us.

[rob menard]

http://thinkfreeforums.org/download/file.php?id=1072

Hope that worked. Of course, thought and analysis will still be required, and those not taken to such activities will refuse to see the proof.

Who received what revenue and from whom?

Rob

http://thinkfreeforums.org/download/file.php?id=1072

[1694]

Hasn;t worked for me, can't see the image, just a red X.

Thanks.

[rob menard]

How do I post a pic? Has to be hosted somewhere?
Rob

It is a scan of the back of a BC. Says: 'Revenue Receipt' and then a number then 'For Treasury use only'.

It is in green ink. Others have the number in red ink, without the words.

[stickwhistler]

http://thinkfreeforums.org/download/file.php?id=1072

Hope that worked. Rob


Not quite. :D

http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/download/file.php?id=1072

They'll have to sign in first, or get ...

"You are not authorised to download this attachment."

But I am - of course! :cool:
Sweetmorn, Boomtime, Pungenday, Prickle-prickle and Setting orange, every day of the week.

[intellection]

Rob,
With respect, if you had discovered this concept on the internet would you have blindly believed it? I appreciate your efforts on this site to assist others with their own investigations. if i discover it is true then i'll surely close up this strawman and join/start a new society.

[rob menard]

I would have done what I suggest you do. Research and study and think about it. In the end, what is in your heart and mind will matter far more then what you find on the net or in some law library.

I do not ask anyone to blindly follow. That is what the governments and their lackeys and shills do.

Rob

[dondaz]

Even the gurus of the movement only ever claim to know someone who is drawing the money.

Could you show where these 'gurus' as you call them claim to know someone who is drawing money?

I have spoken personally to people using various methods of commercial redemption and in all the vids I've watched and sites I'v read there has never been one mention of anyone ever drawing money from anywhere.

This isn't about money. There is no money in the uk, that is a myth. It's about adjusting accounts to 'zero'. It's about creating a balance in the books. Double entry accounting. Debt and credit. This isnt about getting a pocket full of 'promises', which most think is money. This isn't about scamming the system. The system is scamming us.

This is taking their ability away to scam us. This isn't about making loads of fake 'money' and living the jetset lifestyle. If anyone has come here for that they are looking in the wrong place.

CR is about using their system legally. Within their own rules and regulations. This is indeed possible, I have filmed & interviewed people who are using this technology to great effect here in England.

[intellection]

i agree Dondaz. i feel some people are seeing this concept as a meal ticket. i just want to evidence that it is possible to extract yourself from society and start afresh without the goverment having recourse to law/statues. if they want to start a war against a new society on 'their' land then i guess that's another hurdle.

[malvern]

new society



it's not new...... we've just not been taught it... :mad:
so to understand you must teach yourself..... we can't say that a bloke on the net said it was real so it ok, we must be able to talk this every day......



just looking at bonds themselfs .... it's all about understanding why and what.




Attachment Bond: Attachment is a means of placing a defendant's property into the custody of the court at the request of the plaintiff before the trial as security for the plaintiff's claim. Many states require that the plaintiff post an attachment bond to guarantee the plaintiff will pay damages caused to the defendant by the attachment if the attachment is later determined to be wrongful.


Admiralty Bonds: Admiralty law covers just about anything having to do with ships, on both the oceans and inland waterways. Admiralty cases are heard in the United States District Court. Admiralty bonds are any bonds that are filed in such proceedings, and may be required for many of the same reasons that bonds are required in regular civil actions. Because admiralty law has its own peculiar terminology, admiralty bonds are considered a separate class of bonds.


Appeal/Supersedeas Bond: When a party appeals a money judgment against them, filing the appeal is usually not sufficient to prevent the judgment creditor from taking action to collect the judgment while the appeal is pending. In order to stay collection of the judgment, the judgment debtor must file an appeal bond (sometimes called a supersedeas bond), which guarantees that the judgment will be paid if the judgment debtor is not successful in getting the judgment reversed. (This bond is typically collateralized.)


Cost Bond: Some states do not allow a nonresident to file an action in their courts unless the nonresident files a cost bond to guarantee payment of court costs. These bonds are typically small (under $2000).


Third Party Claimant's Bond: Where a person not originally party to an action intervenes in the action and seeks to obtain possession of property subject to the action, they must often post a third party claimant's bond. The third party is usually a secured lender with a perfected security interest in the property who intervenes to prevent the security from being sold to pay the borrower's debt to a general creditor


Injunction Bond: An injunction is a court order that requires a party to do, or to refrain from doing, some particular act. A short-term, temporary injunction is called a temporary restraining order. The bond guarantees that the other party will be paid their damages caused by the injunction if the injunction is later determined to have been wrongful. (This bond is typically collateralized.)


Replevin Bond: A replevin bond is filed by a plaintiff where they are asserting ownership to property in the hands of the defendant. By filing the bond, the plaintiff obtains possession of the property, and the bond guarantees the plaintiff will return the property to the defendant in the event the court determines the plaintiff is not entitled to the property.


Release of Attachment Bond: When property is attached, the defendant is not helpless. The defendant usually has the right to have the property returned by posting a Release of Attachment bond to serve in lieu of the property as security for the plaintiff's claim. (This type of bond is typically collateralized)


Indemnity to Sheriff Bond: The sheriff is traditionally the officer of the court who serves any writ seizing or taking possession of property. The plaintiff customarily provides the sheriff with instructions on what property to seize. In several states, the sheriff is entitled to demand a bond to indemnify him or her should the defendant seek damages against the sheriff for seizing the wrong property or for other actions taken pursuant to an invalid writ.


Release of Mechanic's Lien Bond: A mechanic's lien can be removed from real property by recording a release of mechanic's lien bond. In some states, the party filing the bond must serve a copy of the bond on the lien claimant. The bond then stands in place of the property as security for the lien claimant's claim. (This bond is typically collateralized)


Release of Attachment Bond: When property is attached, the defendant is not helpless. The defendant usually has the right to have the property returned by posting a Release of Attachment bond to serve in lieu of the property as security for the plaintiff's claim. (This type of bond is typically collateralized)



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[steevo]

Could you show where these 'gurus' as you call them claim to know someone who is drawing money?

I have spoken personally to people using various methods of commercial redemption and in all the vids I've watched and sites I'v read there has never been one mention of anyone ever drawing money from anywhere.

This isn't about money. There is no money in the uk, that is a myth. It's about adjusting accounts to 'zero'. It's about creating a balance in the books. Double entry accounting. Debt and credit. This isnt about getting a pocket full of 'promises', which most think is money. This isn't about scamming the system. The system is scamming us.

This is taking their ability away to scam us. This isn't about making loads of fake 'money' and living the jetset lifestyle. If anyone has come here for that they are looking in the wrong place.

CR is about using their system legally. Within their own rules and regulations. This is indeed possible, I have filmed & interviewed people who are using this technology to great effect here in England.

Good post Dondaz.

I think that this Freeman Forum has attracted a few people who are "PLAYING the Skeptic" for reasons only known to themselves.
The result of their constant "skepticism" is, intentionally or unintentionally, the halt of the progress that was/is being made on this forum.

[1694]

Good post Dondaz.

I think that this Freeman Forum has attracted a few people who are "PLAYING the Skeptic" for reasons only known to themselves.
The result of their constant "skepticism" is, intentionally or unintentionally, the halt of the progress that was/is being made on this forum.

No playing, I am a skeptic, and that is not a crime. You have also inadvertantly claimed your own goals are more important than mine......which of course to you they are, but not to me.....intresting that you assumed you were "right."

Anyway back to topic, has ayone fixed the picture link?

[steevo]

No playing, I am a skeptic, and that is not a crime.

Why are you a skeptic ? For what ends ?

[1694]

Why are you a skeptic ? For what ends ?

Self preservation. Knowledge is power, best way to learn is to question.

Blind acceptance is what got us here.

[steevo]

Self preservation. Knowledge is power, best way to learn is to question.

Blind acceptance is what got us here.

I will ask you again, why are you a skeptic with regards to Freeman and to what ends ? Where SPECIFICALLY will it get YOU by questioning everything about Freeman ? Are you doing it for fun ? :confused: Or are you trying to improve your life by becoming a Freeman ? In the meantime, while youre PLAYING the skeptic (playing games with people) the progress on the Freeman Forum halts.

Tell me specifically, about how being a skeptic of the Freeman helps your "self preservation". Isnt being SELFish "what got us here" ?

"Knowledge is power" ? What SPECIFIC knowledge are you gaining by being a skeptic of the Freeman movement ? And how will that said knowledge make you powerful ?

[dondaz]

I will ask you again, why are you a skeptic with regards to Freeman and to what ends ? Where SPECIFICALLY will it get YOU by questioning everything about Freeman ? Are you doing it for fun ? :confused: Or are you trying to improve your life by becoming a Freeman ? In the meantime, while you PLAYING the skeptic (playing games with people) the progress on the Freeman Forum halts.

Tell me specifically, about how being a skeptic of the Freeman helps your "self preservation". Isnt being SELFish "what got us here" ?

"Knowledge is power" ? What SPECIFIC knowledge are you gaining by being a skeptic of the Freeman movement ? And how will that said knowledge make you powerful ?

Very good points. However, as always, his replies will be camoflauged. He constantly changes tactics, good guy bad guy techniques, tries to create plausible denyibility when his shite hits the fan. Then his pals come in to play to further stir the pot. Then he's off doing the same on another thread. He's playing NLP games on everyone, double speak, the works.

Folks are seasoned to these tricks and 1694 is so obvious a trouble maker. Wake up folks, check out the mind control section, it's all in there what they do. David Icke has hours and hours of footage covering manipulation techniques.

'There's a rat in the kitchen, what you gonna do?'

[cacadores]

Folks are seasoned to these tricks and ******* is so obvious a trouble maker. Wake up folks, check out the mind control section, it's all in there what they do. David Icke has hours and hours of footage covering manipulation techniques.'There's a rat in the kitchen, what you gonna do?'Debate avoidance?
Why don't you show us what makes CR so special that the sceptical attitude is unacceptable?
Are you saying that CR doesn't stand up to analysis? If it does, why be scared of a sceptical approach?

In fact, can you show me any field of human endevour where sceptisism was not part of the development?

[cacadores]

I will ask you again, why are you a skeptic with regards to Freeman and to what ends ? He already answered you.

Why are you against free speech?

__________________________________________________ ___________

Let's get the information out there.:)

[steevo]

He already answered you.

Why are you against free speech?



I wanna speak to the organ grinder....

No I'm not against free speech but you obviously are.

[cacadores]

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p293/Cacadore/ant.gifAnyway back to topic, has ayone fixed the picture link?

You get the code by right clicking on the picture and going to properties where you copy the http code and paste it in here:http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/editor/insertimage.gif

[cacadores]

I wanna speak to the organ grinder....

No I'm not against free speech but you obviously are.Evidence?

[steevo]

Evidence?

You know what the evidence is.

[dondaz]

Debate avoidance?
Why don't you show us what makes CR so special that the sceptical attitude is unacceptable?
Are you saying that CR doesn't stand up to analysis? If it does, why be scared of a sceptical approach?

In fact, can you show me any field of human endevour where sceptisism was not part of the development?

You are deliberately confusing blatant disinformation with sceptisism. Trying to create plausible denyibility again. Keep backing up the lies, that's all you can do.

[1694]

I have never claimed to be good or bad, I am just me. Of course my motives are selfish, after all they are MY motives...can't get more selfish than that. If we all looked after ourselves a bit (alot) more we might find life harder, but we would be free. Everytime you ask he government to fix YOUR problem you are voluntering your servitude to them.

I am looking for my escape, and a practical one at that, Commercial Redemption has promised this (although it switches between "it doesn't matter if they take you to jail, in your mind you are still free" and "They will recognise your soverignty and leave you alone"). If it is the former, I don't need to file any paperwork or get my birth certificate stamped, I could delude myself just fine without that (remeber though that no man is more in chains than one who thinks he is free). If it is the latter and the technique offers tangeble practical protection (as it seems to suggest) then of course I would be highly interested in the process....but the more I learn the less it seems to fulfill that.

This thread is for evidence, for and against the claim of dividend cheques or bond payments. (Discussion of the theory behind it and how it works is also valued)

[dondaz]

This thread is for evidence, for and against the claim of dividend cheques or bond payments. (Discussion of the theory behind it and how it works is also valued)

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