A critical moment in history

[december]

"A critical moment in history" by Timothy BANCROFT-HINCHEY

The Western reaction to the words of Vladimir Putin is, as predictable, immature, ignorant, jingoistic and biased, since it does nothing to analyse the causes of Russia’s reaction to what can only constitute a provocation. This is a criical moment in the history of Europe and the world, and one which requires more diplomacy, dialogue and debate than drum-beating and harking back to Cold War rhetoric.

To every action, there is a reaction. This is a basic law of physics and one which is so patently obvious, it goes without saying. Not so, however, for a huge number of western Press outlets which seized upon the words of President Vladimir Putin regarding pointing missiles at Europe in response to the USA’s belligerent, aggressive and antagonistic attitude towards international relations, painting Russia as a threat and saying nothing about the causes and origins of Moscow’s stance.

Nothing was said of the USA’s recent history in international relations, namely the illegal act of butchery in Iraq based upon lies. War crimes have been committed, hundreds of thousands of civilians have been murdered, Nazi-style torture chambers and concentration camps have been set up, yet how many media outlets in Europe raise an eyebrow? Few, because many western European countries also have blood on their hands by giving Washington the nod.

Nothing has been said of Washington’s unilateral decision to pull out of the ABM treaty in 2002 and to instal nuclear missile defence systems on Russia’s borders, nothing has been said of NATO moving its frontiers to Russia’s own, installing antagonistic military attack systems on software in its new member states and performing the massive upgrading of weapons systems within striking distance of the very heart of Russia.

So what is Russia supposed to do? Stand by with its arms folded and say nothing? Or react and re-establish a proper and harmonious balance of power?

Needless to say, Russia’s military capacity to defend itself is second to none, and always has been. Hitler and Napoleon learnt the lesson the hard way. Today, Russia has every capacity to neutralise and liquidate any NATO build-up anywhere on the planet and everybody knows that and needless to say, Russia’s military equipment from Soviet times is intact – it has not simply disappeared and indeed, it has been upgraded.
Yet this is not the point. The point is, that the United States of America, the only power to have used nuclear weapons (and against civilians), is in the process of performing a military build-up on Russia’s frontiers and given the past history of US imperialism, given the fact that Washington is today the Queen of Liars, who can tell Russia that this does not constitute a potential threat?

Therefore those who criticise Russia for reacting would do well to start criticising those who caused the reaction – the United States of America. What are its military forces doing in Europe anyway, if not defending the arms lobby which dominates Washingon’s foreign policy?

When will the Europeans stop crawling around Washington’s feet?

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-06-2007/92787-criticalmoment-0

[december]

Bush speech stokes row with Kremlin

President Bush risked further anger from the Kremlin today when he said that democracy in Russia had suffered under Vladimir Putin's rule.

Just hours before his arrival at the G8 summit in Germany — where proceedings have already been overshadowed by a row over America's plans to install missile interceptors in Eastern Europe — Mr Bush did little to improve the chill in relations between Moscow and the West.

Delivering a prepared speech in the Czech Republic, an erstwhile Soviet satellite that could soon house a US missile tracking facility, Mr Bush listed a number of countries where democracy was partial or where recent freedoms were in danger.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1887320.ece

[december]

I am sure that not too many forum members know about The Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty, but it is very important document which was NOT ratified by NATO countries.

However, after a test of new Russian missile couple days ago the Illuminati bitches begin to wake up....

http://img.rian.ru/images/6630/86/66308615.jpg

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070530/66322059.html


NATO says ready to ratify CFE Treaty - 1

06/ 06/ 2007

BRUSSELS, June 6 (RIA Novosti) - NATO member states consider the re-drafted Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty (CFE) a very important document and are ready to ratify it, a NATO spokesman said in Brussels Wednesday.

James Appathurai said NATO countries were ready to ratify the arms control pact, which Russia has been urging for some time, as soon as all its terms were met.

The original CFE Treaty, signed in 1990 to reduce conventional military forces on the continent and amended in 1999 in Istanbul in line with post-Cold War realities, has so far only been ratified by Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus and Ukraine.

Moscow has pointed out that NATO newcomers Slovakia and the three Baltic states have not joined the pact at all, despite a preliminary agreement that they would do so.

Moldova and Georgia said they would not ratify it until Russia withdraws its forces from their territories, notably Russian peacekeepers from the breakaway republics of Abkhazia and Transdnestr. This led other NATO countries to abstain from ratifying it as well.

Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday that "artificial links" between the CFE treaty and a UN-mandated peacekeeping force in Georgia or a Russian battalion guarding ammunition depots in Moldova are "unacceptable" and "legally irrelevant."

Even "those who make those claims have told us long ago that the links are political rather than legal," Lavrov said.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070606/66797270.html

President Putin inspects Topol-M mobile ICBMs

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Land-based mobile strategic missile system Topol-M getting into position trategic missile division in the town of Teikovo, Ivanovo Region

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Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty


The Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (or CFE Treaty), signed in Paris on November 19, 1990, by the 22 members of NATO and the former Warsaw Pact, is a landmark arms control agreement that established parity in major conventional forces/armaments between East and West from the Atlantic to the Urals.

It provides an unprecedented basis for lasting European security and stability. The original CFE Treaty (which is of unlimited duration) entered into force in 1992.

Following the demise of the Warsaw Pact and the enlargement of NATO in the 1990s, the then 30 CFE States Parties signed the Adaptation Agreement at the Istanbul OSCE Summit on 19 November 1999, to amend the CFE Treaty to take account of the evolving European geo-strategic environment.

Area of Application and Treaty Membership

The CFE Treaty covers the entire land territory of the States Parties in Europe from the Atlantic Ocean to the Ural Mountains (ATTU).

It thus excludes much of the territory of Russia and all the territory of the U.S. and Canada - all signatories of the original and Adapted Treaty.

The conventional forces of all three countries that are stationed in Europe are subject to CFE limits.

http://www.policyalmanac.org/world/archive/usnato_cfe.shtml

[edelweiss pirate]

Where do you get the idea that Russia has no Illuminati?

I think Russia was actually the MOST illuminati infested country of them all...

Now it's just irrelevent.

[december]

Latvia ready to host U.S. missile shield - PM

http://img.rian.ru/images/6685/37/66853715.jpg

07/ 06/ 2007


RIGA, June 7 (RIA Novosti) - Latvia is ready to consider the possibility of placing elements of a U.S. missile shield on its territory if necessary, the country's prime minister said Thursday.

"We would certainly agree to a [U.S.] proposal if we receive it, because European security is very important," Aigars Kalvitis said in an interview with Latvia's TV5 channel. "I am certain of this because we are a member of NATO and the EU, and play a part in Europe's collective security."

NATO's Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Wednesday the entire European continent and all NATO allies, wherever they are located, should be covered by the U.S. missile defense elements in Europe.

The U.S. national missile defense system currently deploys missile interceptors at Fort Greeley, Alaska, and at Vandenberg, about 130 miles (209 kilometers) northwest of Los Angeles.

The United States proposed earlier this year expanding its missile shield to sites in the Czech Republic and Poland, allegedly to counter a potential threat from Iran and North Korea.

The Kremlin has responded angrily to U.S. plans, citing threats to national security, and said U.S. missile bases in Europe could become targets of its pinpoint strikes.

Russia last week tested a new ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads and a new cruise missile, saying the tests were part of Moscow's response to U.S. anti-missile plans.

The Latvian premier called Russia's position on the issue aggressive and confrontational.

"It is a quite an aggressive stance on the part of Russia," the Latvian premier said. "To announce that they [the Russians] could aim missiles at Europe is a policy that leads to confrontation."

The presidents of Russia and the United States are likely to discuss the proposed deployment of a U.S. missile shield in Central Europe on the sidelines of the ongoing summit of the Group of Eight leading industrialized nations in Germany.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070607/66849053.html

[december]

Where do you get the idea that Russia has no Illuminati?

I am sorry, edelweiss pirate, but what does your question have to do with this thread?

But anyway...

If you wish to learn about your the subject you are asking than, please, read the article Why Putin is Under Attack in this thread -
Click here -
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4601

[truthseeker1980]

Where do you get the idea that Russia has no Illuminati?

I think Russia was actually the MOST illuminati infested country of them all...

Now it's just irrelevent.

Good point, are they not all on the same side anyway, just playing games to confuse the public?

Like i said yesterday they are now in a win/win situation with the creation of two problems, which could go either way.

They haven't just created one problem, for a reaction and solution but two.

If the illuminati decide that it wants Russia to be antaganised by Bush's plans for a missile protection thing, then we are backwards 20years in the cold war (or probably worse)

OR

If the illuminati chose to make it look like Russia agree to the plans then we have a massive NWO NATO which will cover the whole of the northern hemisphere, which would then create another fake problem (north Korea/China) which in turn would then create a reaction and solution involving war, more than likely.

[december]

Good point...

His point has nothing to do with this thread, and he actually cannot even prove it, because Russia is kicking Illuminati out, and this is why they attack Putin and moving their troops closer to Russia.



Are they not all on the same side anyway, just playing games to confuse the public?

Who they?...
I think you don't have enough information....

Since 1991 NATO was getting closer and closer to Russia's borders, and now USA wants to set up a missile defence system RIGHT NEXT TO border with Russia in Poland.

So...
Considering these facts what do you, truthseeker1980, mean by "playing games to confuse the public"?


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41260000/gif/_41260177_kaliningrad_map2_416.gif


If you wish to learn about the Illuminati vs Russia subject, please, read the article Why Putin is Under Attack in this thread -
Click here -
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4601

[edelweiss pirate]

I am sorry, edelweiss pirate, but what does your question have to do with this thread?

But anyway...

If you wish to learn about your the subject you are asking than, please, read the article Why Putin is Under Attack in this thread -
Click here -
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4601

Have you forgotten what you've written in your cold blooded cut and paste frenzy:

Well, a reminder December:


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I am sure that not too many forum members know about The Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty, but it is very important document which was NOT ratified by NATO countries.

However, after a test of new Russian missile couple days ago the Illuminati bitches begin to wake up....

So.... you seem to think that Russia will save the world from the Illuminati...
That's the second craziest idea on this forum after star UFO's...

I'm sure you're an intelligent guy but you've got one hell of a blind spot.

[december]

So.... you seem to think that Russia will save the world from the Illuminati...
That's the second craziest idea on this forum after star UFO's...

I'm sure you're an intelligent guy but you've got one hell of a blind spot.

Where did I say that "Russia will save the world from the Illuminati..."?
I wrote about the the Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty, and what are you talking about?

UFO?

Edelweiss pirate, are you OK? :D

[edelweiss pirate]

Jesus December you're a nutter, you don't even know what you've written I keep having to cut and paste your own nonsense back to you.

second time then, your own words:


However, after a test of new Russian missile couple days ago the Illuminati bitches begin to wake up....

[december]

Jesus December you're a nutter, you don't even know what you've written I keep having to cut and paste your own nonsense back to you.

second time then, your own words:


So, what is not correct here? Are you saying Russia did not test new missile couple days ago in responce to US plan?

[edelweiss pirate]

You're more slippery than a bucket full of eels.

A total waste of time talking to you isn't it?

[december]

You're more slippery than a bucket full of eels.

A total waste of time talking to you isn't it?

Well... I am asking you specific questions which you refuse to asnwer...

First you quoted me saying about (CFE) Treaty: I am sure that not too many forum members know about The Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty, but it is very important document which was NOT ratified by NATO countries.

And right in the same thread you made ridiculous claim about UFO:
That's the second craziest idea on this forum after star UFO's...

And thatSo.... you seem to think that Russia will save the world from the Illuminati...

I asked you: Where did I say that "Russia will save the world from the Illuminati..."?

But you refused to answer that question and now you telling me about a total waste of time.


I am sorry, but if you don't care about this issue and prefer to talk about UFO, than please, switch to MY SPACE site.

[december]

FROM RENSE.COM -

Putin Warns - Russia Must Respond To Bush Nuclear Provocation On Its Borders

LaRouche PAC
6-5-7

On the eve of his visit to Germany for the G-8 Summit, Russian President Vladimir Putin granted an exclusive interview to a group of leading press from the 7 non-Russian summit nations, including the London Times, the Corriere della Sera (Italy) and Germany'sSpiegel weekly.

In regard to the U.S. deployment of missile defense systems on the Russian border, Putin said (excerpts taken from the Spiegel interview): "Once the new missile system is established, it will function in an automatic mode, linked to the entire nuclear potential of the USA. For the first time in history, components of the American nuclear system will be established on the European continent - that changes the whole configuration of international security. We are being told that this is to protect against Iranian missiles.

But these do not exist: Iran does not have missiles with a range of 5,000 to 8,000 kilometers. A wall of protection is being built here against something that does not exist. There is no reason for such a missile defense system in Europe. We, however, are forced to respond to that."

Putin said he still hopes that the USA will find a way back to a dialogue based on reason, but "if that fails, we have to react the missile defense system only creates the illusion of protection - but in theory, the likelihood of unleashing a nuclear conflict will even increase.

The global strategic balance is disrupted. To restore it, we have to create a system to outflank these American waepons." Putin added his suspicion that the missile issue is pushed by the USA with the intent to provoke a Russian counterreaction and "prevent further cooperation between Russia and Europe." The Times reports that Putin said that "we will need to establish such systems which would be able to penetrate the (US) missile defense systems. What kind of means will be used to hit the targets that our military believe are potential threats - ballistic missiles, or cruise missiles, or some kind of new weapons system?"

LaRouche PAC
6-5-7

http://rense.com/general76/putind.htm

[zircon]

From the time of the construction of the railroads onwards, the Russian economy has been a branch of American financial interests, right through the "Cold War" and beyond. The Cold War itself was just a sham to cover further missile and therefore space travel projects. Whether Putin is part of this sham I'm not sure. Or whether like Saddam he will be punished for turning against his masters; anyway their tentacles reach everywhere and the lengths they will not go to to ensure their will is carried out cannot be exaggerated: they will brook no obstacle and utilise any subterfuge or veil necessary to conceal it.

[barbitone]

Well... I am asking you specific questions which you refuse to asnwer...

First you quoted me saying about (CFE) Treaty: I am sure that not too many forum members know about The Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty, but it is very important document which was NOT ratified by NATO countries.

And right in the same thread you made ridiculous claim about UFO:
That's the second craziest idea on this forum after star UFO's...

And thatSo.... you seem to think that Russia will save the world from the Illuminati...

I asked you: Where did I say that "Russia will save the world from the Illuminati..."?

But you refused to answer that question and now you telling me about a total waste of time.


I am sorry, but if you don't care about this issue and prefer to talk about UFO, than please, switch to MY SPACE site.


Wow dude, I think he was talking about the other part you said: "However, after a test of new Russian missile couple days ago the Illuminati bitches begin to wake up...."

How can the Illuminati "wake up" to their own agenda?

[december]

How can the Illuminati "wake up" to their own agenda?

Hello, barbitone.
Their agenda is to get the oil fields all over the world. But it looks like Russian president is NOT getting with their program:


Threat to BP's Siberian gas field

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41021000/jpg/_41021281_bp203.jpg

BP owns a 50% stake in TNK-BP
BP's Russian unit, TNK-BP, may have to halt production at a large Siberian gas field by the end of this month, Russia's environment agency has warned.
The agency told Reuters it seemed "obvious" that an inspection in the next few days would say TNK-BP was not complying with production obligations.

Both TNK-BP and UK energy giant BP have declined to comment.

Analysts say the move is just the latest attempt by the Kremlin to gain control of Russia's energy supplies.

(Which is bad news for the Illuminati. D....) :)

Both TNK-BP and UK energy giant BP have declined to comment.

Analysts say the move is just the latest attempt by the Kremlin to gain control of Russia's energy supplies.

Possible legal fight

Russian authorities claim TNK-BP is not producing enough gas from the Kovykta field.

They say that under the licence terms, Kovykta should have been producing nine billion cubic metres of gas per year by 2006, rather than the less than 2.5 billion cubic metres actually being processed.

TNK-BP has repeatedly countered that it currently cannot produce any more as the local region does not require additional supplies, and that a plan to build a pipeline to China was blocked by Moscow.

The firm, which is equally owned by BP and Russian group Alfa Access Renova, earlier this month won the right to challenge in court the threat to its Kovykta licence.

Yet the deputy head of the Russian environment agency, Oleg Mitvol, said he was not concerned by the possible legal challenge.

"They [TNK-BP] have yet to win the case and I hope the court takes a just decision," he said.

Analysts say the Kremlin wants state-run gas firm Gazprom to gain a majority stake in the Kovykta field on cheap terms.

Last year Gazprom secured a majority stake in a similarly large Russian oil and gas field formerly led by fellow UK energy firm Shell.

Shell and its partners granted Gazprom control of the Sakhalin 2 project off Russia's far east coast after Russian authorities repeatedly refused to grant them the necessary environmental certificates.

The Kremlin rejects any claims that it is using underhand tactics to gain state-control of Russian energy supplies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6677237.stm


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss_060201_china/060131_putin_vmed_4a.widec.jpg

The Kremlin's Big Squeeze
A BP venture is the latest target as Moscow muscles in on producers

It's one of John Browne's biggest personal triumphs. In September, 2003, the CEO of oil giant BP (BP ) sealed a deal to create TNK-BP, a joint venture that would become Russia's fourth-largest oil company and which today accounts for a quarter of the British company's global production. Now Browne's designated successor, Tony Hayward, is surely counting on the project to keep the oil—and profits—pumping, particularly after a year that saw BP's reputation and stock hammered because of repeated missteps in production and safety. One sign of TNK-BP's importance: Browne and Hayward met with Russian President Vladimir V. Putin at his dacha outside Moscow in March to discuss the venture.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_18/b4032053.htm

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4051

[barbitone]

Their agenda is to get the oil fields all over the world

hmmm...ok. I think it's a bit more complicated than that IMO.:o

As far as I know, if the person in question is the Russian "president", then they're involved in the minipulation. (Especially Russia! if you ask me)

They're just the left and right hands of the Illuminati. That's kinda the whole point.....isn't it?

[basilbrook]

Wake up people!!!!!!!!

Its nothing to do with ''the start of the cold war'' etc etc etc.

Its another ruse at trying to scare and instill a new fear in the general public!!!!

We are all used to the daily body count figures coming out of Iraq, as well as the 'arrests' but no convictions of suspected 'terrorists' in the uk, and as a result ''we'' become de sensitised to them.

Dont get hoodwinked, keep focus!!!!

Regards

Steve

[lumukanda]

hmmm...ok. I think it's a bit more complicated than that IMO.:o

As far as I know, if the person in question is the Russian "president", then they're involved in the minipulation. (Especially Russia! if you ask me)

They're just the left and right hands of the Illuminati. That's kinda the whole point.....isn't it?

no barbitone, russia good, europe and america bad, get it? russia good, america bad, december says it to himself in the mirror every morning, thats why he still believes it.
when in truth neither russia, nor europe, nor america are bad, but their governments certainly are!

[truthseeker1980]

His point has nothing to do with this thread, and he actually cannot even prove it, because Russia is kicking Illuminati out, and this is why they attack Putin and moving their troops closer to Russia.

No december from what you have said on this matter, it seems you are not taking into consideration all the facts and seem to beleive just one side of a story. The illuminati control every government in the world, yes even Russia, to be honest I would have thought, from how the USSR used to operate, a lot of the ideas they used to control and monitor their people are now being pushed out globally, so why do you not think that they are on the same side?




Who they?...
I think you don't have enough information....

Since 1991 NATO was getting closer and closer to Russia's borders, and now USA wants to set up a missile defence system RIGHT NEXT TO border with Russia in Poland.

So...
Considering these facts what do you, truthseeker1980, mean by "playing games to confuse the public"?

Well it has clearly confused you hasn't it? They have created two situations with the outcome being in their favour on both fronts, is that not enough evidence for you?

Do you think the middle east is not illuminati as well?


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If you wish to learn about the Illuminati vs Russia subject, please, read the article Why Putin is Under Attack in this thread -
Click here -
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4601

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[freespark]

You know all that money we spend on the military every year - trillions of dollars? Instead, if we use this money to feed and clothe the poor of this world, which it would do many times over, then we can explore space, inner and outer, together, as one race.

- Bill Hicks

Peace...no fighting, no pain no fear....NOBODY LEFT BEHIND. Imagine that?

[december]

NATO RISKS LOSING RUSSIA'S TRUST

By Vladimir Simonov, RIA Novosti political commentator

What would Nato leaders have said if the rumours of three years ago about Russia's intention to deploy tactical nuclear weapons in the Kaliningrad Region, its exclave squeezed between Baltic countries, turned out to be true? It would have been a shock for Nato, wouldn't it?

Now you can imagine Moscow's feelings over the recent news concerning Nato's forthcoming enlargement. Here is the background. During a ceremony in Chicago or Brussels on April 2, Nato will accept seven new members, the largest bunch in the history of the bloc. Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia are waiting for the ceremony in hushed raptures, but Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have submitted a highly "interesting" idea to the alliance's leadership. The three former Soviet republics have invited Nato to protect their air space, or rather, to deploy interceptor-fighters of a nearby bloc member in one of the three countries.

They argue that they do not have air forces but they do have an enemy that can claim their blue skies. This "enemy" has not been identified, possibly out of diplomatic considerations.

The initiative fell on fertile soil in the bloc. The leading news agency of Denmark, Ritzaus Bureau, reported that on March 31 Lithuania would get the desired aid - four Danish fighters, a mobile radar and about a hundred servicemen, pilots and technicians, who would service this hastily created foreign air force base in Lithuania, close to Russia's borders.

The Lithuanian Defence Ministry refused to comment on this news, but President Rolandas Paksas, who has nothing to lose in view of the forthcoming impeachment, was more forthcoming. He did not rule out the possibility of Nato bases being deployed in Lithuania after it joins the bloc. "If Nato asks for it, it will get it," Mr Paksas said rather too clearly.

This excessive openness will presumably displease the new Nato Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, who will come to Vilnius for talks this Friday. In the little over two months since he assumed his position, Mr Scheffer has used every chance to remind the world that one of his key tasks is to maintain and develop good relations with Russia, because this policy "corresponds to the mutual interests of Nato and Moscow."

When the US-made F-16 fighters of the Danish air force rev up their engines in Lithuania, the Kremlin will have a very good reason to question the sincerity of the Nato chief.

Moscow is playing its hand openly: it does not want to see Nato weapons on the other side of its border and it does not think it necessary to conceal its displeasure. Nato and Moscow do have common interests, above all in the joint fight against international terrorism, but they do not include the encirclement of Russia with Nato bases in the south and northwest.

Russia will not tolerate the appearance of Nato forces in the Baltic countries, Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov (who kept his post in the new government) said in late February. Presidential foreign policy aide Sergei Yastrzhembsky later voiced his negative attitude to the idea of Nato skies over the Baltic. He hinted in an interview with The Financial Times that any "traces" of Nato's presence in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia "irrespective of their size" would be interpreted as "an extremely negative move." "Nato should take into account the national concerns of Russia's policy," the presidential aide said.

He believes that Nato protection of the airspace of Romania and Bulgaria could be explained by the war on terror but "it is difficult to see any need in any counter-terrorist functions in the Baltic countries." If the alliance leaders do not heed these warnings and continue to "develop" the territory of its new members in the Baltic by deploying air force bases, radars and other forms of its military presence there, it may lose the main achievement in relations with Russia after the end of the Cold War - a palpable measure of trust.

Moscow remembers very well the joint conferences of 1996, when Nato brass hats assured Russian delegates that the bloc would not deploy its forces in the Baltic countries. The pledges were later sealed in the Nato-Russia Founding Act, which infers that the bloc sees no reason or pretext for advancing its military infrastructure to the highly sensitive (for Russia) Baltic region. Perfidy is a bad choice in relations with anyone, including Russia.

http://www.cdi.org/russia/297-12.cfm



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Putin says missile tests were response to NATO's actions

31/ 05/ 2007


MOSCOW, May 31 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's president said Thursday his country's recent tests of new ballistic missiles and possible withdrawal from an arms control treaty are a direct response to harsh, unreasonable actions by NATO countries.

Speaking at a news conference after meeting with the Greek president in the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin said Russia did not initiate the new wave of an international arms race, and condemned the planned deployment of a U.S. missile shield in Europe, and the development of new military bases on the continent.

"There is no need to fear Russia's actions, they are not aggressive... They are aimed at maintaining balance in the world order, and are extremely important for maintaining peace and security globally," Putin said.

Russia conducted successful tests this week of a new ballistic missile with MIRV and a cruise missile allegedly capable of penetrating any operational and future missile defenses.

"We conducted a test of a new strategic ballistic missile with multiple warheads, and of a new cruise missile, and will continue to improve our resources," Putin said.

The president suggested recently that Moscow might suspend its obligations under the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty if talks with NATO countries on its implementation show no visible progress.

No NATO members have yet ratified the re-drafted CFE pact, demanding that Russia first withdraw from Soviet-era bases in Georgia and Moldova under previous agreements.

Russia, concerned over Europe's refusal to ratify the re-drafted version of the accord, and acceptance by certain EU states of U.S. missile shield plans on the continent, proposed on Monday holding an emergency CFE conference in Vienna on June 12-15.

"We are fully observing the provisions of the [CFE] treaty and have pulled out all heavy weaponry from the European part of Russia. We have reduced our armed forces by 300,000 personnel in the past few years, but what about our partners?" Putin said.

"They are inundating eastern Europe with new weapons - a new base in Bulgaria, another base in Romania, a [missile interceptor] site in Poland, a radar in the Czech Republic," the president said. "What are we supposed to do? We cannot just observe all this and continue to keep our obligations under the treaty."

Putin also stressed that the United States unilaterally withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002, paving the way to the deployment of its missile shield in Europe.

"Our American partners have left the ABM Treaty," he said. "We warned them then that we would take measures in response, to maintain the global strategic balance."

The U.S. plans to deploy a missile defense radar in the Czech Republic and 10 interceptor missiles in Poland as part of its European missile shield allegedly against "rogue" states, such as Iran and North Korea.

Since Washington announced the plans earlier this year, Russia has vehemently opposed the deployment, citing its own national security concerns. Some of Russia's top generals hinted that the bases, if opened, could be targeted by Russian missiles.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070531/66418953.html

[zircon]

Hi The writer WERNER KELLER in 1962 published a book that was largely ignored or even banned called "are the Russians ten foot tall?" first printed in german as "Ost minus West = Null", published in Uk (and US, as "East minus West=zero; Russia's debt to the Western world, 862-1962") arguing that in almost everything the russian leaders brought in expertise from outside Russia, the author shows how it has been the open and consistent policy of Russian rulers to bring in experts, technicians, ideas, machines, almost everything that could help to build up a backward Russian economy. He argued that Russia is dependent on the western world for everything in existence from 862 to date. This argument suggests that absolutely nothing done in Russia has ever (in modern history) been done for any reason other than to please foreign interests, which are the ones really in control and thus any outward rebellion or didagreement is merley for show - even the revolution and Cold War, which were merely manipulated into existence as a veil for wider and more secret interests.
A great read if you can get your hands on a copy...

[december]

NATO assimilating new military theater on Russian border

2004

The appearance of NATO aircraft on the Russian border indicates that NATO has begun assimilating a new theater of military operations, according to Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, vice-president of the State Academy for Geopolitical Research.

As reported by a Rosbalt correspondent, the general made the remarks at a press conference Wednesday, saying that while the appearance of NATO aircraft on Russia's border means little at first glance, if one takes into account the installation of radar sites in the Baltic countries, the modernization of six airfields, the increasing of their operational capacity and the organization of methods for the overflight of the Russian frontier, then it becomes clear that the alliance is assimilating a new theater of operations.

Ivashov said that the modernization of airfields in the Baltic countries and the increase in their operational capacity is intended to accommodate 200 to 300 military aircraft. He said that NATO could potentially use those aircraft against Russia in the event of political or economic changes. He said that such economic changes might involve the possible redirection of gas deliveries from the west to the east. 'That would not necessarily lead to a military confrontation,' he said, 'but the military factor will weigh on Russia whenever it takes any political or economic decisions which affect NATO's interests.'

http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2004/04/22/53559.html


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S-400 missile defense systems to start defending Moscow July 1

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070521/65806197.html

[december]

Eric Margolis
Foreign Correspondent / Defense Analyst & Columnist ArchivesBiographyContact Info.Publications

June 04, 2007

THE RUSSIAN BEAR AWAKES

PARIS - As Washington and Moscow exchange increasingly angry accusations and rebukes these recent weeks, it is hard to avoid a sense of Cold War deja vu.

Last Tuesday, Russia launched with great fanfare a new RS-24 intercontinental ballistic missile that it claimed could penetrate new US anti-missile defenses. President Vladimir Putin warned the Bush Administration’s plans to deploy anti-missile radars and missiles in the Czech Republic and Poland would turn Europe into a `powder keg.’

Moscow accused the Bush Administration of violating international law, following double standards, and being a major violator of human rights. After crushing the life out of Chechnya, Russia was hardly in any position to lecture the US about human rights.

Washington fired back, accusing Putin of extinguishing democracy, silencing political opponents, and bullying his neighbors. The US, with 150,000 troops in Iraq, even had the nerve to accuse Russia of `meddling’ in the Mideast. The American pot was calling the Russian kettle black.

Behind the barrages of invective, what’s really going on is that Russia is finally returning to being Russia, as this writer has long predicted it would. Russia the lap dog is gone. The Russian bear has awakened from a hibernation of two decades and is both hungry and ill-tempered.

In the 1980’s, the reforming Mikhail Gorbachev sought to humanize and modernize the crumbling Soviet Union. Gorbachev ended his nation’s confrontation with the west and sought accommodation with Washington – far too much, claimed Russian critics. Gorbachev’s well-intentioned efforts failed. The once mighty Soviet Union collapsed, leaving bankruptcy and massive social suffering in its wake.

Boris Yeltsin, Gorbachev’s successor, allowed criminals and shady financers to plunder Russia. In a story that has yet to be fully revealed, his shaky, financially destitute government was propped up by billions in secret US payments. Washington more or less managed to buy up Russia’s government. In an outrageous, shameful act, the Yeltsin Kremlin even sold the Pentagon the crown jewels of Russia’s military technology. Everything and almost everyone was for sale.

During this period of weakness and corruption, bankrupt Russia allowed the US pretty much a free hand around the world, particularly in the Mideast. Russia’s defense spending plummeted. Washington hailed Moscow’s `cooperation.’

In 1999, the KGB, renamed FSB and SVR, staged a palace coup. Former FSB director Valdimir Putin became Russia’s new leader. President Putin and his hard men set about re-nationalizing Russia’s industrial and resource assets, crushing the robber barons, and restoring Kremlin political control over the nation.

Ironically, George Bush’s invasion of Iraq caused worldwide oil prices to surge, bringing Putin’s `new Russia’ a huge financial windfall. Russia, which produces more oil than Saudi Arabia, is flush with cash from its current oil, gas, and mineral bonanza, which has revitalized the nation’s defense budget.

Putin long made clear his desire to rebuild the Soviet Union – minus communism – and restore his nation as a world power. This means asserting Russia’s historic interests in Eastern Europe and the Mideast, using energy exports to advance foreign policy, and increasingly standing up to the United States.

There is nothing sinister about this development. The last 20 years of Russian history were an anomaly, rather like the feeble Kerensky government just prior top the 1917 revolution. Russia is off its knees and back on its feet. The days of Moscow’s unnatural accommodation with Washington are past.

The US has become too used to Moscow as a compliant vassal. Washington will now have to resume treating the Russians as a great power with legitimate international interests. The first step is reversing the Bush Administration’s contemptuous and dangerously reckless repudiation of major arms control treaties with Moscow.

The White House’s provocative plan to build anti-missile systems and open military bases in Eastern Europe should be cancelled. Pushing NATO all the way east to Russia’s borders has been another dangerous provocation.

Infuriating and humiliating Moscow in order to create a preposterous, technologically iffy anti-missile defenses against missiles and warheads which Iran does not even possess is the latest folly of the Bush Administration’s ideological crusaders.

The US is going to have to eventually share some of its world power with a renascent Russia and surging China. Treating both great powers with dignity and respect is a good way to start.

Source -

http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2007/06/the_russian_bea.php

[zircon]

The US is going to have to eventually share some of its world power with a renascent Russia and surging China. Treating both great powers with dignity and respect is a good way to start.



Fine if like Mr Margolis in his article, we are putting (as we should) Russian interests high on the agenda and considering the rightful needs of the Russian people for a fair system of leadership. However as pointed out above and proven in Werner Keller's book, that was banned and ridiculed for many years, Russian policy is dictated by secret interests and was also during the Cold War and before. East minus West equals ... Zero. Only the powerful interests of western companies and deals struck at secret level will determine what happens, and the Russian people will "benefit" to the degree that is decided; the veneer of agreement and disagreement, of respect and disrespect, is but a veil to cover a tie-up that will only admit China on board once it is decided by the same interests that "the time is right"!