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xdnax
06-06-2007, 02:49 AM
im just watching this. it's class.

especially the science behind the world stopping, then going back in the other direction and the poles switching!
when it's explained, the only thing "crazy" is how SANE it all is!!!

it's in 4parts.

by the way, i read gregg braden's "the divine matrix" recently. i advise eveyone to read it. it's a very good book.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3246068643261697998&q=Gregg+Braden

enjoy

peace

lottie
06-06-2007, 02:54 AM
yeah im reading it at the moment although im finding it hard going... but im getting there!

lookfar
06-06-2007, 02:55 AM
Thanks for the link xdnax. Will watch this tomorrow...

xdnax
06-06-2007, 02:56 AM
yeah im reading it at the moment although im finding it hard going... but im getting there!

when i started reading it, i was like 30pages in thinking, "ok, this isnt going anywhere", but it picks up and it's informative and makes perfect sense.
he aint got the flair of icke as a writer, but he does keep your interest well.

edit. i meant "flare", NOT "flair" woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! lmao

btw, check out my "my artwork using money" thread! it's sweet!!! :)

lottie
06-06-2007, 02:58 AM
yeah i agree...

cool cheers for the advice...:)

xdnax
06-06-2007, 03:03 AM
yeah i agree...

cool cheers for the advice...:)

is there anything else you've read that you'd really advise?? i'd look in the specific threads for "what you reading" but they're like 100pages or sumthin lmao

lottie
06-06-2007, 03:06 AM
well to be honest ive only been into this stuff for about a year so i havnt read many books about it, most of my info comes from the net, but i recommend all the Icke books!! lol!! and Dear God whats happening to us!!

thats about all ive read in the form of paper book!!!lol!!! :D

Lookfar has a pretty impressive collection of books...ask her...she's advised me to read a good few!!

xdnax
06-06-2007, 03:11 AM
well to be honest ive only been into this stuff for about a year so i havnt read many books about it, most of my info comes from the net, but i recommend all the Icke books!! lol!! and Dear God whats happening to us!!

thats about all ive read in the form of paper book!!!lol!!! :D

same here.
i've always had an open mind, but i've only been reading icke and other authors of his type for bout 2years, if that.
my routine for months was: buy an icke book, read it, lend it out. buy another, read it, lend it out etc.

i bet some ppl look at me now as "different" or "weird" but i dont give a sh!t cos i have been and always will be unique!!! :)

....okay, minature "getting carried away with myself" session over lmao

lottie
06-06-2007, 03:37 AM
yeah i do that too... buy an icke book lend it out (never get it back!!) buy another...etc etc ... but i think ive helped get the 'message out there'!!
yeah my two work mates were asking me about stuff today...they said i may aswell tell them my theories coz they think im a loon anyway!!! :rolleyes::D

xdnax
06-06-2007, 03:46 AM
yeah i do that too... buy an icke book lend it out (never get it back!!) buy another...etc etc ... but i think ive helped get the 'message out there'!!
yeah my two work mates were asking me about stuff today...they said i may aswell tell them my theories coz they think im a loon anyway!!! :rolleyes::D

lmao
i've actually got my boss reading david icke books and she love's them!!!
i hate it when i lend people books tho and they keep 'em for ages, then give them back and say "oh i didnt get round to reading it"
it's like the amount of people i've lent "loose change" too (a dvd about 9/11. if you aint seen it you need too!) and told them what it's about and 3months later: "oh i didnt get round to watching it" or even worse "yeah, it was good"....n that's IT! wtf???
lmao

phoenix1
06-06-2007, 04:02 AM
I ripped gregg braden to disc... the first two didnt come with sound,,, Brilliant though ..easy enough to pick up at part 3.

Yeah...Good stuff I liked them a lot. Guess , at leat some quality stuff is still in google vids.

All the Love

Phoenix:D:D:D

cleft_asunder
06-06-2007, 04:29 AM
im just watching this. it's class.

especially the science behind the world stopping, then going back in the other direction and the poles switching!
when it's explained, the only thing "crazy" is how SANE it all is!!!

it's in 4parts.

by the way, i read gregg braden's "the divine matrix" recently. i advise eveyone to read it. it's a very good book.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3246068643261697998&q=Gregg+Braden

enjoy

peace


The beginning of that movie, after the pipe song, was such a load of shit that I can safely say that I needn't watch any further.

xdnax
06-06-2007, 04:44 AM
The beginning of that movie, after the pipe song, was such a load of shit that I can safely say that I needn't watch any further.

for what reason???

and get to near the end of the 1st part and its really compelling.

phoenix1
06-06-2007, 12:32 PM
The beginning of that movie, after the pipe song, was such a load of shit that I can safely say that I needn't watch any further.

Well since you didnt even see it Cleft Asunder ... that's a realy safe assumption isn't it.

Usually I never know the end of a docco unless I watch it.

Good to see a musical critic in the house too....he may define you music as "shit" too...It's all relative from your standpoint of course.

With respect...
Safe as houses mate with that angle.

Phoenix1

lottie
06-06-2007, 12:35 PM
lmao
i've actually got my boss reading david icke books and she love's them!!!
i hate it when i lend people books tho and they keep 'em for ages, then give them back and say "oh i didnt get round to reading it"
it's like the amount of people i've lent "loose change" too (a dvd about 9/11. if you aint seen it you need too!) and told them what it's about and 3months later: "oh i didnt get round to watching it" or even worse "yeah, it was good"....n that's IT! wtf???
lmao

yeah i lent my mate i am me i am free coz she was having emotional difficulties etc...anxiety and stuff all the time...being the victim, so i lent her it and said just read that- it should make you see things from a different perspective,so after weeks of it being on her coffee table she started reading it and a few months later i asked if she'd read it she said well ive done the 1st chapter but he keeps repeating himself all the time...i thought NOOOOOO!! the best bits are at the end, dont give up- but she did!! she even saw david icke and spoke to him and told him she was reading one of his books!! then gave it back to me as she didnt want to read the rest!!! :rolleyes::D
my dad's still got infinite love is the only truth (and prob not read it yet!) and ive just got tales form the timeloop back from a friend who borrowed it in october although i'll let her off as she read it cover to cover!!

lemonique
06-06-2007, 02:59 PM
im just watching this. it's class.

especially the science behind the world stopping, then going back in the other direction and the poles switching!
when it's explained, the only thing "crazy" is how SANE it all is!!!

it's in 4parts.

by the way, i read gregg braden's "the divine matrix" recently. i advise eveyone to read it. it's a very good book.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3246068643261697998&q=Gregg+Braden

enjoy



peace

Thanks for the link xdnax. Happy to say I watched it to the end and thoroughly enjoyed it. I also read the book he wrote regarding the same material, and enjoyed that too. Well it's midnight and I'm all done here, so nite nite :)
Lemonique

cleft_asunder
07-06-2007, 07:31 AM
Well since you didnt even see it Cleft Asunder ... that's a realy safe assumption isn't it.

Usually I never know the end of a docco unless I watch it.

Good to see a musical critic in the house too....he may define you music as "shit" too...It's all relative from your standpoint of course.

With respect...
Safe as houses mate with that angle.

Phoenix1

Touchie, touchie!

The part that was shit about it was how he started talking about the human situation, and for some reason machines of all things got into the picture as if they even have little significance. It's not about machines. Machines are trivial and a side issue, if an issue at all, and have no direct connection to humans current state. That is not to say that they haven't made an impact. What I am saying is that when you talk about the human situation, the only thing to talk about is the Illuminati or controllers if you will, which is the topic of topics, and if you make a documentary that focuses on the current human situation, you better mention the fucking controllers within the first 5 minutes, especially after blowing on your custom pipe for what seemed like days.

That guy's nothing but an Allan Watts --not to be confused with Watt-- ripoff, with his pipe and shit, trying to be all holy and ascended. This guy's nothing but a new-age priest, and If Alan Uber Watts called Braden's ass up for a staring contest, Braden wouldn't even accept the challenge.

montag
07-06-2007, 07:37 AM
Touchie, touchie!

The part that was shit about it was how he started talking about the human situation, and for some reason machines of all things got into the picture as if they even have little significance. It's not about machines. Machines are trivial and a side issue, if an issue at all, and have no direct connection to humans current state. That is not to say that they haven't made an impact. What I am saying is that when you talk about the human situation, the only thing to talk about is the Illuminati or controllers if you will, which is the topic of topics, and if you make a documentary that focuses on the current human situation, you better mention the fucking controllers within the first 5 minutes, especially after blowing on your custom pipe for what seemed like days.

That guy's nothing but an Allan Watts --not to be confused with Watt-- ripoff, with his pipe and shit, trying to be all holy and ascended. This guy's nothing but a new-age priest, and If Alan Uber Watts called Braden's ass up for a staring contest, Braden wouldn't even accept the challenge.
I must admit Cleft I watched most of it and I agree with your assessment, a bit light on for me..

cleft_asunder
07-06-2007, 07:37 AM
yeah i lent my mate i am me i am free coz she was having emotional difficulties etc...anxiety and stuff all the time...being the victim, so i lent her it and said just read that- it should make you see things from a different perspective,so after weeks of it being on her coffee table she started reading it and a few months later i asked if she'd read it she said well ive done the 1st chapter but he keeps repeating himself all the time...i thought NOOOOOO!! the best bits are at the end, dont give up- but she did!! she even saw david icke and spoke to him and told him she was reading one of his books!! then gave it back to me as she didnt want to read the rest!!! :rolleyes::D
my dad's still got infinite love is the only truth (and prob not read it yet!) and ive just got tales form the timeloop back from a friend who borrowed it in october although i'll let her off as she read it cover to cover!!

If it makes you feel better mate, when I first got into Icke, after reading Alice in Wonderland, I actually gave that book to a British freemason who lives here in the states. I thought the fact that Icke was British would interest him, but I doubt he's read any of it. The point is though, generally you should never introduce anyone into the conspiracy through Icke. You'll know who the exceptions are.

phoenix1
07-06-2007, 01:33 PM
Touchie, touchie!

The part that was shit about it was how he started talking about the human situation, and for some reason machines of all things got into the picture as if they even have little significance. It's not about machines. Machines are trivial and a side issue, if an issue at all, and have no direct connection to humans current state. That is not to say that they haven't made an impact. What I am saying is that when you talk about the human situation, the only thing to talk about is the Illuminati or controllers if you will, which is the topic of topics, and if you make a documentary that focuses on the current human situation, you better mention the fucking controllers within the first 5 minutes, especially after blowing on your custom pipe for what seemed like days.

That guy's nothing but an Allan Watts --not to be confused with Watt-- ripoff, with his pipe and shit, trying to be all holy and ascended. This guy's nothing but a new-age priest, and If Alan Uber Watts called Braden's ass up for a staring contest, Braden wouldn't even accept the challenge.

Yeah I see your ponts there Cleft...Allan Watt.. Ive only seen one of his things...I felt like commiting suicide after listening to him lol. Yeh.. sorry for bieng so sharp too....I been a bit edgy lately.. certain "Life Things" yanno.

Yeh like it is about 6 moths since i burned it .. so dont totally remember it propperly.. but yeah you gotta mention the Contollers in the first 5 minuiys deffo... the parts I didn't see.

I aint into new age dissinfo,, it aint all love and flowers by far thats for sure.
Sometimes ...I gotta go back and review stuff.... Yeah there are a lot of dissinfo merchants.. maybe he is one. I'll have to watch it again sometime.. but if you think its dissinfo.. well you are prolly right.. I remember ya from the Old days .. and you wre on it wih a lot of stuff.

Yeah ...I'll take a recap on it sometime dude.

Forgive my little outburs lol... I'm sorry I get like it sometimes.. and I'm learning the "Patience test" right now lol.

Peace Cleft

Phoenix:):)

tru3
07-06-2007, 03:45 PM
That guy's nothing but an Allan Watts --not to be confused with Watt-- ripoff, with his pipe and shit, trying to be all holy and ascended. This guy's nothing but a new-age priest, and If Alan Uber Watts called Braden's ass up for a staring contest, Braden wouldn't even accept the challenge.

i disagree; watts would crumble when faced with braden's mullett!

"It's gotta be the hair. It's beautiful. Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays."

;)

xdnax
08-06-2007, 10:35 AM
THE MAIN REASON I POSTED THIS WAS FOR THE "WORLD IS GONNA STOP" PART (which is what icke quoted in tales from the time loop.....if my memory serves me)

peace

montag
08-06-2007, 11:31 AM
i disagree; watts would crumble when faced with braden's mullett!

"It's gotta be the hair. It's beautiful. Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays."

;)

Long beautiful hair... Shining, gleaming, Streaming, flaxen, waxen.:rolleyes:

tru3
08-06-2007, 04:18 PM
Long beautiful hair... Shining, gleaming, Streaming, flaxen, waxen.:rolleyes:

i was just trying to lighten up the thread. :o

this was shot 10 years ago, i believe. hopefully, no one will hold me accountable for my choice of hairstyle in days of yore. in my high school graduation picture (class of 77 rocks!), i sport an incredible afro! i was very pround of it.

anyhoo, i'm particularly interested in braden's projected increase of the schumann resonance from 7.8 to 13 hz. i could not find any current data on the schumann, other than sources which cite braden himself. if anybody has a link to post i would be grateful.

this is a pretty fair rebuttal to braden's hypothesis

http://www.healeroliver.com/Schuman_Resonance.html

i did find an interesting article on the schumann resonance and an apparent relationship with brainwave functioning.

PLANETARY RHYTHMS AND HUMAN HEALTH
Lewis B. Hainsworth of Western Australia seems to be the first researcher to recognise the relationship of brain-wave frequencies to the naturally circulating rhythmic signals, known as Schumann's resonances (SR), in the space between the surface of the Earth and the ionosphere. Hainsworth imparted this awareness to Dr Robert O. Becker, noted electromagnetics pollution expert, and to Harvard neurologists as early as 1975.

In 1977, this phenomenon--the relationship between brain-wave rhythms and the spectrum of the natural Earth ELF (extremely low frequency) signals--became the basis for Itzhak Bentov's Stalking the Wild Pendulum (Dutton, 1977). Later research confirmed a relationship to human health and well-being and even to ESP or psi phenomena.

Hainsworth sent up a clarion cry against hazardous EM (electromagnetic) pollution, whose dangers pale in comparison to the threat of technologies such as HAARP [High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program], which sends violent pulsations into the Earth's ionosphere, potentially disrupting the entire electromagnetic shield of the planet and certainly affecting the whole biosphere and thus human welfare in general.

Some research has suggested that the frequency of the basic Schumann's resonance has recently been rising in value, possibly threatening the whole biosphere, human welfare and our evolutionary future. All biological processes are a function of electromagnetic field interactions. EM fields are the connecting link between the world of form and resonant patterns. They store gestalts or patterns of information. The bridge connecting solar system resonances and brain frequencies resides in our human DNA helix, which co-evolved in the Earth's environment.

EM FREQUENCIES AND HUMAN RESPONSE
Hainsworth posed a series of questions, all of which are answered with a resounding "yes". This should lead us in the direction of extreme caution towards introducing new EM or ELF sources and ionospheric changes in our environment. He presented his data in two papers (referenced at the end of this article and posted on the website http://www.nwbotanicals.org). His questions are as follows:

1. Does the human biological system contain, use or generate any forms of electrical signal?
2. Does it respond to any of these signals?
3. Does it respond to audible signals at these frequencies?
4. Does it respond to optical signals at these frequencies?
5. Do human signals change with psychological or mental states, such as stress or problem solving?
6. Does the human system respond to any very, very low-power electromagnetic signals?

Brain waves have only been studied since about the mid-1920s, and the signal form that is apparently most widely known and identified is the alpha rhythm. The frequency of this signal varies from individual to individual, but it lies between about 7-8 Hz and 12 Hz, with an average value of 10.5 Hz. Theta and beta rhythm signals also occur, and are identifiable by EEG below the 8 Hz and above the 12 Hz frequencies. Since the discovery and measurement of these signals, a great deal of effort has been devoted to trying to work out how they originated in the first place and what determines their frequencies of operation.

In the early to mid-1950s, Schumann (a geophysicist almost certainly uninterested in neurology) suggested that electromagnetic signals might circulate at extremely low frequencies in the electrically resonant cavity between the Earth and the ionosphere. He was right. The signals came to be called "Schumann's resonances". One major component was originally predicated at a frequency of about 10 Hz. In 1959 it was measured to be slightly different. Meanwhile, the military co-opted the discovery for using ELF signals for submarine communications.

In fact, the first mode of these circulating signals has an average value of 7.8 Hz, with a typical diurnal range of from 7.2 to 8.8 Hz, and the second mode has an average value of 14.1 Hz and a range of from 13.2 to 15.8 Hz. These match the brain-wave theta rhythm and beta rhythm nicely. The blank range between the two modes is a very reasonable match with the normal frequency range of the human alpha rhythm, between 8 to 12 Hz or cycles.

Additionally, it was found that there is minimum (zero) power circulating in the Earth/ionosphere cavity at 10.4 Hz--which is virtually an exact match for the average value of the alpha rhythm. Hainsworth points out that the existence of these natural signals and the close relationship of their frequencies of oscillation were facts unknown to senior neurologists and mental health specialists as late as 1975.

Hainsworth argued that up to the end of 1979, no long-term systematic measurements of any great value were being made of the Schumann's resonance signals. Measurements were being made only intermittently for the purpose of obtaining research data for use by post-graduate geophysicists in constructing esoteric mathematical models of the ionosphere. It follows from this that, until long after the end of 1979, no figures on these signals were available. Consequently, no "expert" can produce numerical evidence to support an objection to Hainsworth's original hypothesis, since the only numerical values available are those favouring it.

However, Hainsworth left us with some open-ended questions:

7. Has any evidence ever been obtained to indicate that the human system is totally unaffected by externally applied electromagnetic fields?
8. Have any measurement programs ever been attempted to show whether the human system is (a) totally unaffected, (b) always affected, or (c) sometimes affected by naturally [or artificially] occurring electromagnetic signals?
9. Has the existence of such signals, having a close relationship with human biological signal frequencies, been known for many years?
10. Have those relationships been studied with adequate protocols in any detail?

Schumann's resonances are actually observed, by experiment, occurring at several harmonic frequencies between 6 and 50 cycles per second (one cycle equals one hertz). Specifically they are found at 7.8, 14, 20, 26, 33, 39 and 45 Hz, with a daily variation of around ±0.5 Hz.

Only as long as the properties of Earth's electromagnetic cavity remain about the same do these frequencies remain the same. Cycles may vary somewhat due to ionospheric response to solar cycle activity and properties of the atmosphere and magnetosphere. Projects, such as HAARP, which heat up or blast out the ionosphere pose a potential threat of catastrophic proportions to this interactive system.

....


In an article published in Science, MIT scientist Earle Williams (1992) constructed a powerful argument that links Schumann's resonances to convection and ultimately to widespread tropical and/or global temperature. Williams concluded that a 1°C warming in the tropics should result in a fourfold increase in lightning activity, and he presented empirical data from several locations to support his conclusion. He noted that any measurable parameter nonlinearly related to temperature could be extremely useful in assessing the most subtle changes in global temperature. Others have presented different sensitivities: Price (1993) concluded that a 1°C warming would increase global lightning activity by 7%; Price and Rind (1994) found a 5-6% increase per 1°C sensitivity; while Reeve and Toumi (1998) found the sensitivity to be near 40% per 1°C. Regardless of the exact sensitivity, all these scientists conclude that lightning increases with even moderate amounts of warming worldwide. More lightning would generate a stronger SR, which may be useful in monitoring planetary temperatures.

The link between SR and the number of lightning strikes is supported by a mean day/night temperature fluctuation pattern. A diurnal pattern of worldwide lightning exists with three maxima recorded regularly due to the large number of mid- to late-afternoon thunderstorms in land areas of Africa, South America, and Southeast Asia and Australia. (Storms are first generated in Asia; later they form in Africa; and later each day they arise in South America.)

Global warming has been linked to the suspected rise in SR, and is a threat to its synchronisation with our brain waves. Small changes in temperature pump up into large signals in extremely low frequency (ELF) resonances. Long-term monitoring and study of global climate changes via measurements of ELF electromagnetic waves needs to be conducted more closely. Monitoring the intensity and frequencies of the lightning-induced ELF SR could help monitor changes in the Earth's climate over time.

One Israeli program proposed setting up two or three widely separated ELF field sites. A suggested site for a permanent SR monitoring station was in the Negev Desert in Israel. Members of this proposal want to develop, test and install the appropriate software for the automatic electromagnetic monitoring and preliminary processing of the incoming data. They suggested that simultaneous measurements could be made in Russia and Sweden to test the global nature of the ELF signals measured in Israel. The continuous ELF data measured in Israel could be compared with other ELF data sets from other locations around the world, such as Hungary, USA or Japan. Furthermore, the relevant global climate data sets - such as surface temperature, satellite observations of the global distribution of deep convection, and global atmospheric water vapour measurements - could be used for comparisons with SR data to check the reliability of the "global thermometer" hypothesis.

A systematic study of SR parameters during high-energy particle precipitation events has shown that protons and electrons with energies above 1 MeV ionise the upper boundary of the Earth/ionosphere cavity. This leads to an increase in the resonance frequency and a decrease in the damping of the first Schumann's resonance, as derived from measurements at Arrival Heights, Antarctica. The study used the nine strongest solar proton events of the past Solar Cycle 22 and high-energy electrons emitted periodically from co-rotating interaction regions in the solar wind during 1994-95. The variation of the SR parameters is in qualitative agreement with current SR theories. The study also showed that high-energy particle precipitation (solar ejecta) is not the only relevant source affecting SR parameters. The findings constitute a so far little-explored aspect of solar/terrestrial interaction.

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/schumann.html

it seems that there is a clear correlation between human em frequencies in the brain and the schumannn resonance. questions remain, for me: is the SR really speeding up? what is the cause? is haarp responsible for the increase in resonance, or solar activity, or both? is braden misreading the data? if so, is this deliberate or merely a faulty interpretation?

dunno.

tru3
10-06-2007, 08:10 AM
watched the third part of braden's vid series. skip the second, imo.

the best part to me was the section on "the masks of fear", which reminded me of the way d.i. talks about the eggshell.

if we can all just find ways to feel better, for short periods, every day (notice i didn't say feel good, just better ;) ), we send ripples of positve energy, a smile to a stranger, a hug, and drop the emotional armor we have accumulated, expressed through the genetic code as well as the mind.

the way to hurt the devil is to laugh at him. ;)

imho, when we go through the photon belt, much of the "junk dna" will become active, or at least will finally have the potential to be activated; new enzymes, new ways for the body to cope with stress.

cleft_asunder
10-06-2007, 09:15 AM
Yeah I see your ponts there Cleft...Allan Watt.. Ive only seen one of his things...I felt like commiting suicide after listening to him lol. Yeh.. sorry for bieng so sharp too....I been a bit edgy lately.. certain "Life Things" yanno.

Yeh like it is about 6 moths since i burned it .. so dont totally remember it propperly.. but yeah you gotta mention the Contollers in the first 5 minuiys deffo... the parts I didn't see.

I aint into new age dissinfo,, it aint all love and flowers by far thats for sure.
Sometimes ...I gotta go back and review stuff.... Yeah there are a lot of dissinfo merchants.. maybe he is one. I'll have to watch it again sometime.. but if you think its dissinfo.. well you are prolly right.. I remember ya from the Old days .. and you wre on it wih a lot of stuff.

Yeah ...I'll take a recap on it sometime dude.

Forgive my little outburs lol... I'm sorry I get like it sometimes.. and I'm learning the "Patience test" right now lol.

Peace Cleft

Phoenix:):)

The only thing you have to apologize for is for apologizing that you made an outburst. 'The sod do I care? And as for this guy being disinfo, it depends what you mean. Some people think disinfo means disinfo agent, and I don't think he's that. I simply think he's wrong, and you would learn a whole great deal more reading Icke than you would thinking about what this dude is saying.

cleft_asunder
10-06-2007, 09:20 AM
i disagree; watts would crumble when faced with braden's mullett!

"It's gotta be the hair. It's beautiful. Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays."

;)

You know, while Braden was playin' his blower, his forehead told me that this documentary ain't even gonna come close to truth, and then that's exactly what happened! :eek:

phoenix1
10-06-2007, 04:31 PM
The only thing you have to apologize for is for apologizing that you made an outburst. 'The sod do I care? And as for this guy being disinfo, it depends what you mean. Some people think disinfo means disinfo agent, and I don't think he's that. I simply think he's wrong, and you would learn a whole great deal more reading Icke than you would thinking about what this dude is saying.

Firstly ...I don'r HAVE TO appologise for anything.. as i'm accountable to no man or woman or mixture thereof.

IF I choose too then I will. Not because YOU SAY I SHOULD!! Noone is sovereighn.. except themselves.. and bieng true to YOUR SELF,,,is the startpoint.

I have read plenty of David Icke .. and was reading deep subject .. allways have done long before David had put pen to paper. (no disrespect of course)

Just because one man has had an "epiphany" and realised a tuning in point. Good...that does not make a teacher...

People pick up "whats for them" well I do anyway.. my truths are not going to be yours are they ??

"The Sod do I care" ..well thsts rich.... considering what you are saying on what I should or should not read.. my life is as diverse as I can get right now. I dont expect you nor require you to understand it.

Dissinfo is anothers info.

Still with respect for any others standpoint.

Love IS the only truth.

Phoenix

revolutionary_jam
04-01-2009, 05:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byooW_ZBl3U

revolutionary_jam
02-08-2010, 01:29 AM
Hi this guy very credibly shows that Braden was wrong on the Schumann Cavity Resonance thing I'm interested in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLGDOVeb5bw&NR=1 it didn't go up the way he predicted at all

what is he saying about it now? I've never heard him mention it in years

camreeno
02-08-2010, 03:22 AM
Just wondering but does anyone know if Gregg Braden is a Christian? It's weird how a Christian would be in all this if he is considering the fraudulency of religion. He keep saying "God" and "divine" and words like that and it makes you wonder.

neville fan
03-08-2010, 06:47 PM
watched the third part of braden's vid series. skip the second, imo.

the best part to me was the section on "the masks of fear", which reminded me of the way d.i. talks about the eggshell.

if we can all just find ways to feel better, for short periods, every day (notice i didn't say feel good, just better ;) ), we send ripples of positve energy, a smile to a stranger, a hug, and drop the emotional armor we have accumulated, expressed through the genetic code as well as the mind.

the way to hurt the devil is to laugh at him. ;)

imho, when we go through the photon belt, much of the "junk dna" will become active, or at least will finally have the potential to be activated; new enzymes, new ways for the body to cope with stress.



Abraham Hicks brought up the same thing, getting to a place and feeling better. I don't know if anyone is familiar with them but I really like them

montesmobileseramus
04-08-2010, 12:42 AM
is there anything else you've read that you'd really advise?? i'd look in the specific threads for "what you reading" but they're like 100pages or sumthin lmao

For a good lay history of Zero Point research check out "The Field" by Lynne McTaggart.

http://www.amazon.com/Field-Quest-Secret-Force-Universe/dp/0060931175