Wise as Serpents

[dankai]

Discussion.....


Matthew 10:16

"...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

[eshtar]

Because originaly se4rpents were not thought of as evil until Man wrote about the fall of the King of babylon. (who many thought it was the devil it spoke of) And until Man wrote of Adam and eve. Originaly the serpent was not evil.

[eternal_spirit]

Discussion.....


Matthew 10:16

"...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/830696/Springmeier---Be-Wise-as-Serpents


Book title
Fritz Springmeier - Be Wise as Serpents

[dankai]

Just so everyone knows, I wasn't necessarily asking for an answer when I posted this thread. I posted it more as a discussion, toss ideas around, etc.

[armoured_amazon]

Discussion.....


Matthew 10:16

"...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

Because in battling with evil we have to outwit it without negative behaviour.

To be wise as a serpent means to have basic and fundamental knowledge of what areas of spiritual warfare you can go into and what areas you cannot go into - and to always be on your guard against the snares, traps, and deceptions that the dark side will try and throw at you in order to try and knock you off course, or try to enslave you into a dark area or into a dark side group of people.
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/wise-as-serpents.html

You have to deceive Satan like he deceives you. You have to be brilliant, and a strategist. You have to use his own game against him. The sooner you know the truths about the world, the sooner we can get these battles over with...
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/confrontingsatan10dec04.shtml

[pinkfreud]

Matthew 10:16

"...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

this verse actually sums it up beautifully.

the illuminati are wise, full of wordly (and outer wordly) knowledge that can enrich life and this existence, but choose to use this knowledge and awareness to cause much pain and suffering in this world by propagating hatred and bloodshed.

humans, on the other hand, are generally ignorant in this regard, but rather peaceful and full of love, if given the opportunity to let their spirits advance further.

the middle ground, therefore, would be to enlighten ourselves and open our consciousness to the beauty of true wealth and knowledge that the reptilians/orions/sirians (serpents here) have, but be 'harmless', or love all that is and always will be. thus creating the perfect balance of knowledge, love and tolerance.

the answer is right there in the bible.

[armoured_amazon]

this verse actually sums it up beautifully.

the illuminati are wise, full of wordly (and outer wordly) knowledge that can enrich life and this existence, but choose to use this knowledge and awareness to cause much pain and suffering in this world by propagating hatred and bloodshed.

humans, on the other hand, are generally ignorant in this regard, but rather peaceful and full of love, if given the opportunity to let their spirits advance further.

the middle ground, therefore, would be to enlighten ourselves and open our consciousness to the beauty of true wealth and knowledge that the reptilians/orions/sirians (serpents here) have, but be 'harmless', or love all that is and always will be. thus creating the perfect balance of knowledge, love and tolerance.

the answer is right there in the bible.

Great post. :)

[pinkfreud]

thankoo :)

[dankai]

this verse actually sums it up beautifully.

the illuminati are wise, full of wordly (and outer wordly) knowledge that can enrich life and this existence, but choose to use this knowledge and awareness to cause much pain and suffering in this world by propagating hatred and bloodshed.

humans, on the other hand, are generally ignorant in this regard, but rather peaceful and full of love, if given the opportunity to let their spirits advance further.

the middle ground, therefore, would be to enlighten ourselves and open our consciousness to the beauty of true wealth and knowledge that the reptilians/orions/sirians (serpents here) have, but be 'harmless', or love all that is and always will be. thus creating the perfect balance of knowledge, love and tolerance.

the answer is right there in the bible.
Nice.

[haukipesukone]

What was the meaning of the dove? Like Columbus, Columbia pictures/district of? I forgot.

Interesting juxtaposition.

[pinkfreud]

What was the meaning of the dove? Like Columbus, Columbia pictures/district of? I forgot.

yeah, that would be columbus, and 'peace' in today's context.

doves in particular are harmless birds; they don't usually peck at, attack, or get on the defensive when people approach them. usually peaceful in that context.

maybe that's what this verse is trying to say- love as tolerance. i may be wrong here, but just my 2 cents.

[darketernal]

Because originaly se4rpents were not thought of as evil until Man wrote about the fall of the King of babylon. (who many thought it was the devil it spoke of) And until Man wrote of Adam and eve. Originaly the serpent was not evil.

If we accept conventional history, and I do not btw, to be true, then that verse was writen many centuries after the Adam and Eve story was added to the Torah.

[marpat]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/830696/Springmeier---Be-Wise-as-Serpents


Book title
Fritz Springmeier - Be Wise as Serpents

He said discuss not flag up somebody elses stuff.

Maybe it has connotation of Egyptian traditions where the serpent was worn on the brow as a sign of kingship, which relates to the kundalini forces being raised.

[cubensisjesus]

Discussion.....


Matthew 10:16

"...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

It's because the serpent is wise. The serpent appears all around the world in different Shamanic cultures and brings knowledge.

Jesus was a shaman, and the bread of life is a magic mushroom. This is fact.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45983

Look at this irish art, inspired by the liberty cap mushroom.
http://candlemaking.craftgossip.com/files/2008/02/celtic-candle.jpg

The intertwined snakes represent DNA, this holds together the earth.

Read Jeremy Narby's Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge

[haukipesukone]

yeah, that would be columbus, and 'peace' in today's context.


That's in common people's context. But in the Biblical/Illuminati context? What does dove symbolize?

[dankai]

That's in common people's context. But in the Biblical/Illuminati context? What does dove symbolize?
"The Biggest Secret"

This is information that Icke put in his book that anyone can find if they dig beneath the surface a bit.

Nimrod and Semiramis have remained the key deities of the Brotherhood to this day
under many different names and symbols. Nimrod was symbolised as a fish and Queen
Semiramis as a fish and a dove. Semiramis is likely to be symbolic of Ninkharsag, the
creator of the reptile-human crossbreeds. Nimrod was the fish-god Dagon who was
depicted as half man, half fish.3 It is possible that this was symbolic of him being half
human, half scaled reptile. Queen Semiramis was also symbolised as a fish because the
Babylonians believed fish to be an aphrodisiac and it became the symbol for the
Goddess of Love.4 Hence the use of the fish in Christian symbolism and architecture. In
her role as the ‘Holy Spirit’, Semiramis was pictured as a dove holding an olive branch
and Semiramis means ‘branch bearer’ as in ‘Ze’ (the) ‘emir’ (branch) and ‘amit’
(bearer).5 Note also the symbolism of this in the story of Noah and the Great Flood,
when the dove came back bearing an olive branch. The return of the reptilians after the
flood? The name, Semiramis, was evolved from the earlier Indian deity, Sami-Rama-isi
or Semi-ramis.6 A fish and a dove are two symbols still widely used in religious ritual
and national ceremony, although most of the people involved have no idea of the true
meaning. Sinn Fein, the political wing of the Northern Ireland terrorist group the IRA,
has a dove as its symbol and you find the dove on many of the sceptres held by the
British monarch (see picture section). Both organisations are modern fronts for the
Babylonian Brotherhood and the doves symbolise Queen Semiramis. The dove to them
is not a symbol of peace, but of death and destruction because of the reverse symbolism
the Brotherhood employs. If it is positive to the masses, it is negative to the
Brotherhood, and this allows their negative symbols to be placed throughout the public
arena. No-one complains because they have no idea what these symbols, like the dove,
really represent.

[xxxx]

gnostics believe that snakes are full of wisdom and they helped people out by giving them the forbidden knowledge from god's tree. cause god is a mental demon and we're fucked cos he doesn't know it. thats it in a nutshell.

[pinkfreud]

That's in common people's context. But in the Biblical/Illuminati context? What does dove symbolize?

the dove in the illuminati context is a symbol of queen semiramis. i guess that's where the mention of columbia/columbus etc comes in. ( i think you mentioned it before :confused:)

edit: oh nvm i see dan pasted some stuff. here's a link anyway: http://www.acoloss.net/pc/consp/stcolumba.html pretty good stuff, but nothing icke doesn't mention in his books.

[turner]

Because originaly se4rpents were not thought of as evil until Man wrote about the fall of the King of babylon. (who many thought it was the devil it spoke of) And until Man wrote of Adam and eve. Originaly the serpent was not evil.

I would whole heartedly agree with this assessment.

The serpent was(and still is)symbolic of the mother goddess and the highest

of divine wisdom.

[rhydra]

Really there is only one source discussed here, the bible is not the only holy book if you are into holy stuff. There are the Nagas of the Hindu and Buddhist teachings which are not quite so irrationally fearful of what mankind cannot, and should not control. They are said to bite only the truly evil humans.