Digital TV: Mind Control by The Sound of Silence

[poohkits]

Digital TV: Mind Control by The Sound of Silence

3241

Editor’s Note
This is an extremely timely and important essay. It overviews a secret Pentagon psychotronics technology known as Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) that has been fully operational since the early 1990s. I first found out about the use of this technology from Al Bielek in a 1992 video he made with Vladimir Terziski. This technology was used against battle-hardened Iraqi troops fortified in deep underground bunkers in Kuwait and Iraq in the first Gulf War in January of 1991.

The physical, emotional, and psychological effects of this technology were so severe that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops surrended en masse without firing even a single shot against US led coalition forces. The numbers reported in the news were staggering: 75,000 and then annother 125,000 (or more) Iraqi troops would come out of their deep desert bunkers waving white flags and falling to their knees before approaching US troops and literally kiss their captor’s boots or hands if given the opportunity.

Why would eight year veterans of Middle Eastern warfare (with Iran 1980-1988) behave this way? Simple. They were subjected to a technology that was so extreme and incomprehensible that they were suddenly reduced to the level of compliant children and felt grateful to still be alive in the wake of their mind-wrenching experience.

This technology is about to be used, albeit in a more subtle fashion, against American citizens in a highly classified and covert operation to mind control and manipulate the entire population into ‘compliance’ with our New World order overlords. The technology will utilize a combination of HAARP transmitters, GWEN towers, microwave cell phone towers, and the soon-to-be-mandatory High Definition Digital TV that will enter your home via: a) cable, b) satellite, c) HD TVs, or d) those oh-so-easy-to-obtain “digital converter boxes” that the government is so anxious to help you obtain and underwrite most of the cost on your behalf.

But why is the government so anxious to help American citizens experience a clearer and more highly defined television picture? Does that make sense to you? Since when is the government so concerned about the visual quality of our televised entertainment that congress would pass an undebated statutory proclamation which mandated that the HD conversion take place on Feb. 17, 2009 and and then subsidze about 90% of the associated cost?

I’m only guessing, but if there are 200 million “regular” televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV x 2,000,000 = 80 million dollars. Why is the government so anxious to spend $80 million dollars on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? Or is the recently touted “additional bandwidth” cover story that supposedly is to be gained with the HD technology the only and genuine reason for spending so much taxpayer dollars on HD conversion?

The second service that this author performs is to “out” two of our more deceptive CIA/Pentagon ‘assets’ masquerading under the rubric of natural health advocates. Their names are Rima Laibow and her husband, “former” Major General Albert Stubblebine. If your e-mail Inbox has been filling with warnings and articles in recent months about the coming Codex regulations and the “wonderful” job that Rima and her retired Army husband have been doing to try and stem the tide, then you know who I’m talking about.

Folks, is it time to wake up yet? Or should we just resume our slumber and wait for them to take us away in those spiffy Gunderson cattle cars that Phil Schneider warned us about in 1995 (you know, the ones with the built in shackles and manacles)?

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15/news/digital-tv-mind-control-by-the-sound-of-silence/

[sloughi]

I’m only guessing, but if there are 200 million “regular” televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV x 2,000,000 = 80 million dollars. Why is the government so anxious to spend $80 million dollars on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? Or is the recently touted “additional bandwidth” cover story that supposedly is to be gained with the HD technology the only and genuine reason for spending so much taxpayer dollars on HD conversion?
That's the same thing I've been trying to tell people. It' odd that' it's mandatory to have modern television. Odd that they are insisting.

[2013]

I know they are waiting to implement the digital signal here in the UK as well as USA , but if the technology worked so well in the 1st gulf war how come they aren't using it again now ?. It would make their job a whole lot easier.:D

[lightgiver]

Digital TV: Mind Control by The Sound of Silence

3241

Editor’s Note
This is an extremely timely and important essay. It overviews a secret Pentagon psychotronics technology known as Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) that has been fully operational since the early 1990s. I first found out about the use of this technology from Al Bielek in a 1992 video he made with Vladimir Terziski. This technology was used against battle-hardened Iraqi troops fortified in deep underground bunkers in Kuwait and Iraq in the first Gulf War in January of 1991.

The physical, emotional, and psychological effects of this technology were so severe that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops surrended en masse without firing even a single shot against US led coalition forces. The numbers reported in the news were staggering: 75,000 and then annother 125,000 (or more) Iraqi troops would come out of their deep desert bunkers waving white flags and falling to their knees before approaching US troops and literally kiss their captor’s boots or hands if given the opportunity.

Why would eight year veterans of Middle Eastern warfare (with Iran 1980-1988) behave this way? Simple. They were subjected to a technology that was so extreme and incomprehensible that they were suddenly reduced to the level of compliant children and felt grateful to still be alive in the wake of their mind-wrenching experience.

This technology is about to be used, albeit in a more subtle fashion, against American citizens in a highly classified and covert operation to mind control and manipulate the entire population into ‘compliance’ with our New World order overlords. The technology will utilize a combination of HAARP transmitters, GWEN towers, microwave cell phone towers, and the soon-to-be-mandatory High Definition Digital TV that will enter your home via: a) cable, b) satellite, c) HD TVs, or d) those oh-so-easy-to-obtain “digital converter boxes” that the government is so anxious to help you obtain and underwrite most of the cost on your behalf.

But why is the government so anxious to help American citizens experience a clearer and more highly defined television picture? Does that make sense to you? Since when is the government so concerned about the visual quality of our televised entertainment that congress would pass an undebated statutory proclamation which mandated that the HD conversion take place on Feb. 17, 2009 and and then subsidze about 90% of the associated cost?

I’m only guessing, but if there are 200 million “regular” televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV x 2,000,000 = 80 million dollars. Why is the government so anxious to spend $80 million dollars on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? Or is the recently touted “additional bandwidth” cover story that supposedly is to be gained with the HD technology the only and genuine reason for spending so much taxpayer dollars on HD conversion?

The second service that this author performs is to “out” two of our more deceptive CIA/Pentagon ‘assets’ masquerading under the rubric of natural health advocates. Their names are Rima Laibow and her husband, “former” Major General Albert Stubblebine. If your e-mail Inbox has been filling with warnings and articles in recent months about the coming Codex regulations and the “wonderful” job that Rima and her retired Army husband have been doing to try and stem the tide, then you know who I’m talking about.

Folks, is it time to wake up yet? Or should we just resume our slumber and wait for them to take us away in those spiffy Gunderson cattle cars that Phil Schneider warned us about in 1995 (you know, the ones with the built in shackles and manacles)?

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15/news/digital-tv-mind-control-by-the-sound-of-silence/

Hello,

sorry to tell you the Iraqi troops gave up because they had been continually bombed from the air and ground for six weeks prior to the ground campaign,i was there,there was no noise ie sound of silence,only the sound of bombs and war noise,believe you me;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26157&page=23

[onourwayto2012]

I know they are waiting to implement the digital signal here in the UK as well as USA , but if the technology worked so well in the 1st gulf war how come they aren't using it again now ?. It would make their job a whole lot easier.:D
I guess they don't want it to be easier this time...as much suffering as possible...on both sides

[the nine]

Hello,

sorry to tell you the Iraqi troops gave up because they had been continually bombed from the air and ground for six weeks prior to the ground campaign,i was there,there was no noise ie sound of silence,only the sound of bombs and war noise,believe you me;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26157&page=23

so they, in your opinion were scared of war, of bombing? not really battle hardy at all. in fact they relied upon the children to confront the allied forces, as they were too scared?
so glad to be away from constant bombing that they would KISS the hands of their enemys?

something dont smell right buddy..

if you were there, did you ask them about the technology that had been usen on them? like depleted uranium? like mobile microwave/ ultra low sound bombardment? which melts faces skin teeth and eyes? did they tell you about these? or were they just SCARED of a LOT of BOMBS?thats all....

[baeinu]

I’m only guessing, but if there are 200 million “regular” televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV x 2,000,000 = 80 million dollars. Why is the government so anxious to spend $80 million dollars on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? Or is the recently touted “additional bandwidth” cover story that supposedly is to be gained with the HD technology the only and genuine reason for spending so much taxpayer dollars on HD conversion?

That's the same thing I've been trying to tell people. It' odd that' it's mandatory to have modern television. Odd that they are insisting.

Would guess that if television signals are all being switched from analog to digital, then the public who hasn't "upgraded" to digital would be unable to have access to important weather information or staged disasters ie. staged terrorism. Most people do not read newspapers or get any other news than from mainstream sources, so would be logical. Then again, I do find it weird that we are being forced to accept digital television as opposed to analog.. having countrywide digital television is NOT a good sign of societal advancement, in the same way that countrywide broadband is not.

[whitelightrabbit]

something to consider for sure. i was thinking of getting a digital converter box for my partner for xmas.... screw that!

[peachped]

Havent got a telly so I couldn't give a shite . :)

[tyler]

I've been trying to tell people about all of this for some time now. Glad to see that more and more are waking up.
The masts that are springing up all over the place have very little to do with mobile phones and more to do with mind control. They are everywhere.
Also something fishy about being forced to use these weird lightbulbs.

[the nine]

Would guess that if television signals are all being switched from analog to digital, then the public who hasn't "upgraded" to digital would be unable to have access to important weather information or staged disasters ie. staged terrorism. Most people do not read newspapers or get any other news than from mainstream sources, so would be logical. Then again, I do find it weird that we are being forced to accept digital television as opposed to analog.. having countrywide digital television is NOT a good sign of societal advancement, in the same way that countrywide broadband is not.

I remember reading a few years ago, that the world was about to be flooded with subsidised giant tv's, lcd and plasma's, from the tiger economys and China..
I remember thinking "who would subsidise such a thing and why"?

since being awakened, by the modern greats such as John Cooper ( legend and martyr), David Icke, Alex Jones, Micheal Tsarion, Billy Miers, Alan Watt, Nassim Haramein, Henry Makow and Dale Pond... I could go on as there has been so many poeple who have given their time freely for the good of mankind, against the ridiculing elite who only consider their peers worthy of life above slavery and sacrifice.

I realise that there is a need for flouridation and mass mind control by the 10% of people who control 90% of the wealth/power.
the internet as we know it will be remembered in the future as the most free humans have ever been before the censorship..beware Google!

we miust seek anew search engine, now!

[lightgiver]

so they, in your opinion were scared of war, of bombing? not really battle hardy at all. in fact they relied upon the children to confront the allied forces, as they were too scared?
so glad to be away from constant bombing that they would KISS the hands of their enemys?

something dont smell right buddy..

if you were there, did you ask them about the technology that had been usen on them? like depleted uranium? like mobile microwave/ ultra low sound bombardment? which melts faces skin teeth and eyes? did they tell you about these? or were they just SCARED of a LOT of BOMBS?thats all....

I was saying there was no sound of silence technology ,and yes droves of Iraqi troops gave them selves up,due to the bombardment,and you are correct about DU and all the rest of the dodgy armaments,i don't think saddam could not have cared less about his troops,its a good job we did at the time:)

[heebeejeebee]

I've been trying to tell people about all of this for some time now. Glad to see that more and more are waking up.
The masts that are springing up all over the place have very little to do with mobile phones and more to do with mind control. They are everywhere.
Also something fishy about being forced to use these weird lightbulbs.

I know what you mean, I thought it was a bit iffy when they started giving them away for free. not only that, posting them to you without you requesting them. you don't get something for nothing with these big corporations

[heebeejeebee]

I remember reading a few years ago, that the world was about to be flooded with subsidised giant tv's, lcd and plasma's, from the tiger economys and China..
I remember thinking "who would subsidise such a thing and why"?

since being awakened, by the modern greats such as John Cooper ( legend and martyr), David Icke, Alex Jones, Micheal Tsarion, Billy Miers, Alan Watt, Nassim Haramein, Henry Makow and Dale Pond... I could go on as there has been so many poeple who have given their time freely for the good of mankind, against the ridiculing elite who only consider their peers worthy of life above slavery and sacrifice.

I realise that there is a need for flouridation and mass mind control by the 10% of people who control 90% of the wealth/power.
the internet as we know it will be remembered in the future as the most free humans have ever been before the censorship..beware Google!

we miust seek anew search engine, now!

try scroogle - An ad-free Google search proxy which prevents the searcher's data being stored by Google - http://www.scroogle.org although is it a bit weird that it came up on a google search.....? how could you prove that they're not storing the data, would it not be a convenient way of tracking the people that don't want their data stored? hmmmmmmm

[wabbitpoo]

What, they're gonna one day just switch on some wierd signal, whereupon that portion of the population that is actually watching at the time suddenly turn into walking zombies? And you think the rest of the World wouldn't notice? Get real.

More "they're out to get me" crap.

[beldazar]

I know what you mean, I thought it was a bit iffy when they started giving them away for free. not only that, posting them to you without you requesting them. you don't get something for nothing with these big corporations


I took a bag of energy-saving lightbulbs down to the council offices the other day, I had LOADS given to me from the Warm Front team. The man behind the counter googled them and luckily for me, found a piece in the Daily Mail about them. I didnt want them laying about my home and I didnt want to bin them either. :mad:

The Daily mail are quite useful sometimes as he said that a lot of sites are firewalled.


As for the digital telies and mind-control masts, how about making some orgonite, its worth at least trying SOMETHING!

[tracker]

Digital TV: Mind Control by The Sound of Silence

3241

Editor’s Note
This is an extremely timely and important essay. It overviews a secret Pentagon psychotronics technology known as Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) that has been fully operational since the early 1990s. I first found out about the use of this technology from Al Bielek in a 1992 video he made with Vladimir Terziski. This technology was used against battle-hardened Iraqi troops fortified in deep underground bunkers in Kuwait and Iraq in the first Gulf War in January of 1991.

The physical, emotional, and psychological effects of this technology were so severe that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops surrended en masse without firing even a single shot against US led coalition forces. The numbers reported in the news were staggering: 75,000 and then annother 125,000 (or more) Iraqi troops would come out of their deep desert bunkers waving white flags and falling to their knees before approaching US troops and literally kiss their captor’s boots or hands if given the opportunity.

Why would eight year veterans of Middle Eastern warfare (with Iran 1980-1988) behave this way? Simple. They were subjected to a technology that was so extreme and incomprehensible that they were suddenly reduced to the level of compliant children and felt grateful to still be alive in the wake of their mind-wrenching experience.

This technology is about to be used, albeit in a more subtle fashion, against American citizens in a highly classified and covert operation to mind control and manipulate the entire population into ‘compliance’ with our New World order overlords. The technology will utilize a combination of HAARP transmitters, GWEN towers, microwave cell phone towers, and the soon-to-be-mandatory High Definition Digital TV that will enter your home via: a) cable, b) satellite, c) HD TVs, or d) those oh-so-easy-to-obtain “digital converter boxes” that the government is so anxious to help you obtain and underwrite most of the cost on your behalf.

But why is the government so anxious to help American citizens experience a clearer and more highly defined television picture? Does that make sense to you? Since when is the government so concerned about the visual quality of our televised entertainment that congress would pass an undebated statutory proclamation which mandated that the HD conversion take place on Feb. 17, 2009 and and then subsidze about 90% of the associated cost?

I’m only guessing, but if there are 200 million “regular” televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV x 2,000,000 = 80 million dollars. Why is the government so anxious to spend $80 million dollars on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? Or is the recently touted “additional bandwidth” cover story that supposedly is to be gained with the HD technology the only and genuine reason for spending so much taxpayer dollars on HD conversion?

The second service that this author performs is to “out” two of our more deceptive CIA/Pentagon ‘assets’ masquerading under the rubric of natural health advocates. Their names are Rima Laibow and her husband, “former” Major General Albert Stubblebine. If your e-mail Inbox has been filling with warnings and articles in recent months about the coming Codex regulations and the “wonderful” job that Rima and her retired Army husband have been doing to try and stem the tide, then you know who I’m talking about.

Folks, is it time to wake up yet? Or should we just resume our slumber and wait for them to take us away in those spiffy Gunderson cattle cars that Phil Schneider warned us about in 1995 (you know, the ones with the built in shackles and manacles)?

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15/news/digital-tv-mind-control-by-the-sound-of-silence/


So ? how does it operate and what does it do ?

[hagbard_celine]

Digitel TV has been a concern of mine for a while. I cringe when I hear the term "switchover"!:eek:

This recent news doesn't surprise me because of what other properties Digital TV, DAB Digital Radio and other digital media has: It takes control of what you watch out of your hands and into the hands of the network owners.

In the old days TV sets were independant machines which simply picked up freely and openly broadcast radio waves and turned them into pictures and sound. The TV station simply broadcast and the TV reciever simply picked up; it was free and totally unregulated. It was also unmonitored and impossible for the station to know whether or not you were watching them. The controls for each individual TV set was completely in the hands of the user. Not any more. Now the TV set's functioning is part of a network that is centrally controlled. Each channel has to be decoded before you own set can pick it up and the decoding syatem is controlled by the broadcasting station, not the set's owner! With digital, the station itself decides what, when and whether you watch because your own TV set, that you buy with your own money, is part of this computerized netork linked though the digibox on top of your set. There are fundamental implications here for media freedom. Remember David's own experience with satelite TV: He had to ring up a place in Scotland and they decoded the channel automatically!

I'll give you another example. In this fictional story (I wrote it actually;)) an island's population has declared itself an independant nation and has been attacked by the military. They've set up a blackade of naval ships and, as it turns out, an electronic bloackade:

An extract from Rockall by Ben Emlyn-Jones

“There’s nothing I can do, Mum.” Kayleigh was holding back tears as she looked at her mother’s face on the laptop screen. Her father was standing behind her and in the background was the kitchen of her house in Glasgow.
“God, I wish you’d never got involved in all this!” came her mother's voice through the speakers.
“Well, I have. I can’t turn the clock back so I’ll just have to make the best of it.” She longed to be with them in her house on the other side of the screen.
“But, Kay… Isn’t there a boat you can jump into and just get the hell out?”
She shook her head. “The island’s being blockaded by the Navy. Nobody goes out or comes in alive.”
Her mother put a tissue to her mouth and sniffed; her father put a hand on her shoulder.
“Mum, I know you don’t believe everything you read in the papers, but…”
“It’s alright, Sweetie; we’re both just worried for you if it comes to fighting.”
“I’ll keep my head down and…” The screen suddenly went blank.
“Mum!... Dad!” She tapped the keyboard, but nothing happened. Then a message appeared on the screen: Error. Cellular modem connection terminated. Contact internet service provider for further advice. “Shit!... Dill!”
At the moment she called his name he burst in through the door. “Kayleigh, are you cut off too?”
“Yeah.”
“They’ve struck us off the Net!”

[1eyeopen]

I have Sky Digital TV that i watch on a 46 inch samsung HDTV.

I've had the TV for six months and sky digital for 10 years.

The only thing i noticed about the HDTV is that the picture is fucking brilliant and the sound quality from my ps3 through my sorround sound system when playing a blu-ray disk is orgamsic.

I like TV and Films.

Is it really a big fucking deal?

[hagbard_celine]

I have Sky Digital TV that i watch on a 46 inch samsung HDTV.

I've had the TV for six months and sky digital for 10 years.

The only thing i noticed about the HDTV is that the picture is fucking brilliant and the sound quality from my ps3 through my sorround sound system when playing a blu-ray disk is orgamsic.

I like TV and Films.

Is it really a big fucking deal?

Yes it is. Wait till you want to switch to a particular station and the network won't let you.

Or you get a pile of junk mail just because you happened to watch a shopping channel one day when you were bored.;):(:D

[horus13]

the original poster is right to be concerned about digital tv but he's so way off here it's not funny.

[thetonic]

You wont escape the eye ...


UNPLUG THAT SHIT NOW!!!

http://www.insidetech.com/nfs/insidetech/attachment_images/0002/4481/TimeWarner-250_crop380w.jpg

[thetonic]

since being awakened, by the modern greats such as John Cooper ( legend and martyr), David Icke, Alex Jones, Micheal Tsarion, Billy Miers, Alan Watt, Nassim Haramein, Henry Makow and Dale Pond... I could go on as there has bw!

Thats William Cooper sir...

[krakhead]

That's the same thing I've been trying to tell people. It' odd that' it's mandatory to have modern television. Odd that they are insisting.

Could they be insisting because the whole capitalist system would collapse if people didn't replace technology they already own for the new 'better' version on a regular basis?

Let's all buy buy dvd's we have on vhs. No, let's all buy blu-ray discs of dvd's we already own. Let's replace our perfectly serviceable tv for a new HD-ready one etc. etc.

If they didn't push us, we'd be happy with what we had until it broke, and that wouldn't do the economy any good would it?

[hagbard_celine]

Could they be insisting because the whole capitalist system would collapse if people didn't replace technology they already own for the new 'better' version on a regular basis?

Let's all buy buy dvd's we have on vhs. No, let's all buy blu-ray discs of dvd's we already own. Let's replace our perfectly serviceable tv for a new HD-ready one etc. etc.

If they didn't push us, we'd be happy with what we had until it broke, and that wouldn't do the economy any good would it?

That's the thing about the growth-dependant corporate economy: it has to keep moving forward to survive. It's like a shark that has to keep swimming forward or else it suffocates and dies. (Actually what we live under today is not Capitalism in its pure sense because the means of production is not privately-owned by the citizens, but by a minute superclass of Elite people. It's a kind of corporate feudalism).

What's happening now of course is that human beings... sorry, consumers... are not cooperating with the growth demands of ther system and so to quote Woody Allen "what we have here is a dead shark".:D

[tyler]

Could they be insisting because the whole capitalist system would collapse if people didn't replace technology they already own for the new 'better' version on a regular basis?

Let's all buy buy dvd's we have on vhs. No, let's all buy blu-ray discs of dvd's we already own. Let's replace our perfectly serviceable tv for a new HD-ready one etc. etc.

If they didn't push us, we'd be happy with what we had until it broke, and that wouldn't do the economy any good would it?

You will have to do better than that, K. Your pal Dreamweaver could teach you a thing or two!

[dreamweaver]

Digitel TV has been a concern of mine for a while. I cringe when I hear the term "switchover"!:eek:

This recent news doesn't surprise me because of what other properties Digital TV, DAB Digital Radio and other digital media has: It takes control of what you watch out of your hands and into the hands of the network owners.

That's exactly it. It's the same of course with all the DRM crap that's built into Windows Vista.

And it's also the same with forcing us all onto electronic money and eventually making cash or barter transactions illegal so that, as David Icke says, they can decide who can buy food and who can't.

Could they be insisting because the whole capitalist system would collapse if people didn't replace technology they already own for the new 'better' version on a regular basis?

Let's all buy buy dvd's we have on vhs. No, let's all buy blu-ray discs of dvd's we already own. Let's replace our perfectly serviceable tv for a new HD-ready one etc. etc.

If they didn't push us, we'd be happy with what we had until it broke, and that wouldn't do the economy any good would it?

This too. And the "built-in obsolescence" timescales seem to be getting shorter and shorter.

[sloughi]

Could they be insisting because the whole capitalist system would collapse if people didn't replace technology they already own for the new 'better' version on a regular basis?

Let's all buy buy dvd's we have on vhs. No, let's all buy blu-ray discs of dvd's we already own. Let's replace our perfectly serviceable tv for a new HD-ready one etc. etc.

If they didn't push us, we'd be happy with what we had until it broke, and that wouldn't do the economy any good would it?
I totally disagree. CD players have replaced walkmen because people found them for convenvient and now people have I-pods becaus ethey find them for convenient. For something to sell it has always made money being a trend, the government has never forced Jordans, and such things to be mandatory to have. Plus, it's odd that the government is forcing people to have state of the art equipment or no service at all.
How many people can afford those expensive televisions? Those televisions are like 400-600 dollars. But the government is making you buy them. They have been selling this hard with even Court TV judges such as Judge Mathis advertising the switch. Plus, who need Digital? Things been going along great so long without it. It's very strange that not only do you have to have a special television, but the date February 17, 2009. You don't have any idea that it's two days begore the even more mystical date of February 19th.

[limelady]

Here in Australia we've had digital TV transmission since 2001, and they have recently announced they will be formally starting the switching off of all analogue transmissions in Australia starting 2010 complete by 2013, so if you haven't upgraded by then, tough luck! :rolleyes:

Best to simply hurl your telly out the window now.....oh and watch out for the cat! :)

In October 2008, the Digital Switchover Taskforce announced the formalized dates for analogue-switchoff, which will begin in 2010 in Mildura, with the final switchoff in 2013 in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and remote areas switch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_terrestrial_television_in_Australia

[sillystringmath]

Whats gonna be scary really is the freed up UHF and VHF frequencies.

[1337]

yup the free frequencies will be for the verichiips and mind control .

it will be against the law to broadcast, or have equipment that uses these frequencies, because they are for the microchips.

[christuffer]

Whats gonna be scary really is the freed up UHF and VHF frequencies.



Nail on head! It's not really about what we've got (Digital TV) but what we are losing (analogue frequencies).


They are desperate to free up these frequencies by 2012.


There could be both a HAARP connection and a mind control connection.


On the plus side, I also hope there are some great pirate radio stations set up on these.

[tom bombadil]

A couple of things.

1) How can the 'baddies' tell my telly (new) to not receive a channel? Surely it is just a reciver of signals. For example; When itv trasmit on the airwaves their signal that my tv picks up at that band width and decodes it and shows me the programe, then how can that signal or bandwidth be blocked? We are not talking a sky box here, just a signal to telly issue.


2) Why is it not just about the money? When one thinks of how much the 3G network is worth (trillions) then why not get the public to free up more money making space?


Tom.

[deca]

operation commander solo what they used in IRAQ and other places
ULTRASCIENCE War 2020 Mindcontrol 3 of 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4uj7Buwn4

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/449268_3
PSYOPS
from Medscape General Medicine™

Today
Current Military Structure
PSYOPS resources are distributed throughout the US Armed Forces.[2,7,9,10]

Figure 5. (click image to zoom)



Most Army personnel are in reserve components. The single active Army unit is its 4th Psychological Operations Group (airborne) in the Special Operations Command, stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The 4th PSYOPS has 6 battalions. These elite personnel are trained in persuasion and influence. They have expertise in communications media, regional orientation, language, and culture.

Figure 6. (click image to zoom)



The 193rd Special Operations Wing of the Pennsylvania National Guard in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, is the most deployed Air Force National Guard Unit in the country. The 193rd provides an airborne broadcast platform for state and national disasters and emergencies. Four specially configured EC-130 turboprop aircraft (Commander Solo) are equipped for broadcast in AM, FM, HFTV, and military communication bands. Additional Talon aircraft drop leaflets.

Currently, both the Navyand Marines also have PSYOPS capabilities, with more limited broadcasting, leaflet dissemination, and audiovisual production functions.

Recent Activities in Iraq[11,14-19]
In mid-December 2002, Commander Solo began broadcasting radio into southern Iraq, urging Iraqi military to abandon their support of Saddam Hussein's regime. The messages attempt to discredit the Hussein regime and stress the distinction between the political regime and innocent military and Iraqi people.

Specific themes of broadcasts, which incorporate Arabic songs, include the regime's diversion of money intended for food to weapons production; the use of state money for personal indulgences, such as palaces; Hussein's use of chemical weapons on his own people; his record of noncompliance with the United Nations; and current world resolve to eliminate his destructive abilities.

A typical radio message: "Soldiers of Iraq. Since the beginning of time, there has been no profession more honorable than a soldier.... The uniform of a soldier...demands respect and loyalty. Soldiers are the defenders of their people, and the protectors of women and children.... Saddam has tarnished this legacy. Saddam seeks only to exploit these brave men.... Do not let Saddam tarnish the reputation of soldiers any longer.... Make the decision."

Figure 7. (click image to zoom) Sample radio leaflet



Mass dropping of leaflets provides Iraqis with information about the times and frequencies of future US radio broadcasts, as well as further messages attempting to alienate the people from the political regime of Hussein.

Messages appeal to pride and family loyalty, as well as fear.

[truthseeker1980]

A couple of things.

1) How can the 'baddies' tell my telly (new) to not receive a channel? Surely it is just a reciver of signals. For example; When itv trasmit on the airwaves their signal that my tv picks up at that band width and decodes it and shows me the programe, then how can that signal or bandwidth be blocked? We are not talking a sky box here, just a signal to telly issue.


2) Why is it not just about the money? When one thinks of how much the 3G network is worth (trillions) then why not get the public to free up more money making space?


Tom.

IT IS EXACTLY LIKE A SKY BOX!!!

They are turning off the old signal you refer to, your TV wont work unless you by a FREEVIEW box, which is exactly the same as a SKY or cable box.

[deca]

here is a chapter from the box "men how stair at goats"
THE FREQUENCIES

Perhaps, I thought, one way of solving this mystery was follow the patents, follow them like tracker follows
Footprints In the snow, and then, like in a horror film, see how the footprints vanish. Was there, somewhere out
there, a paper trail of patents for subliminal sound technologies, or frequency technologies, that simply vanished
into the classified world of the United States government? Yes. There was. And the inventor in question was a
mysterious and somewhat slippery figure called Dr Oliver Lowery.

On 27 October 1992 Dr Oliver Lowery of Georgia, SA, was the recipient of US Patent #5,159,703. His
invention was something he called a ‘Silent Subliminal presentation System’:
A silent communications system in which non-aural carriers, in the very low or very high
audio-frequency range or in the adjacent ultrasonic frequency spectrum are amplitude or

frequency modulated with the desired
Intelligence and propagated acoustically or vibrationally, for inducement into the brain, typically through the use of
loudspeakers, earphones, or piezoelectric transducers. The modulated carriers may be transmitted directly in real
time or may be conveniently recorded and stored on mechanical, magnetic or optical media for delayed or repeated
transmission to the listener. The publicity material that accompanied this patent put it into plainer language. He had
invented a way in which subliminal sounds could be put onto CD where they 'silently induce and change the
emotional state in a human being'.

The following emotional states could, according to Dr Lowery, be induced by his invention:

Positive emotions:
CONTENTMENT, DUTY, FAITH, FRIENDSHIP.
HOPE INNOCENCE, JOY, LOVE, PRIDE,
RESPECT, SELF-LOVE and WORSHIP.
Negative Emotions:
ANGER, ANGUISH, ANXIETY, CONTEMPT,
DESPAIR, DREAD, EMBARRASSMENT, ENVY.
FEAR, FRUSTRATION, GRIEF, GUILT, HATE,
INDIFFERENCE, INDIGNATION, JEALOUSY, PITY,
RAGE, REGRET, REMORSE, RESENTMENT, SADNESS,
SHAME, SPITE, TERROR and VANITY.


12 positive emotions, 26 negative ones.

Four years later, on 13 December 1996, Dr Lowery's company, Silent Sounds Inc., posted the following message

on their website: 'All schematics have [now] been classified by the US Government and we are not allowed reveal

the exact details ... we make tapes and CDs for the German Government, even the former Soviet Union countries!

All with the permission of the US State department, of course ... The system was used through Operation Desert

Storm (Iraq) quite successfully.'
For weeks on end I repeatedly telephoned the number I had found for Dr Oliver Lowery -it was a Georgia area
code, somewhere on the outskirts of Atlanta – but nobody picked up the phone.
Until, one day, someone did. 'Hello?' said the voice.



'Dr Lowery?' I said.
'1' d prefer you didn't call me that,' he said. What can I call you?' I said.


Call me Bud,' he said.
I could almost hear him smile down the phone. 'Call me Hamish McLaren,' he said then.
I told Hamish/Bud/Dr Oliver Lowery what I was icing, and he, in return, whoever he was, told me -something

about his life. He said he was seventy-seven
Years old, a Second World War veteran, a former Hughes aerospace engineer and he had endured numerous
operations, heart bypasses, et cetera. Then he said, 'You're the first journalist to find us in four years.'

'Find "us"?' 1 said.
'You think you're talking to Georgia?' he said. There was a faint mocking tone to his voice. 'I'm sorry?' 1
said.
He laughed.
'I phoned a Georgia area code,' 1 said.
There seemed to be voices in the background, a lot commotion, as if Oliver/Bud/Hamish was speaking from the

midst of a busy office.
'You'll never be able to print what I am about to tell you,' he said, 'because there is no way you'll be able to prove
that this conversation ever took place.'

'So I'm not talking to someone in Georgia?' I said. 'You are talking to someone in a lab where there are numerous
PhDs from sixteen countries, including Brits and the lab is in a fourteen-storey building behind three layers of
barbed-wire defenses that sure as hell isn’t
Georgia,' he said.


There was a long pause.
'So you're using call divert?' 1 said, weakly.
1 had no idea if this was true. Maybe he was a fantasist, or perhaps he was playing with me for the fun of it, but,


as 1 say, there seemed to be many voices in the background. (Maybe he was just putting those voices in my head.)
The man said that the US military has been researching silent-sound technologies for twenty-five years. He likened
this 'massive' research to the Manhattan Project He said there were good silent sounds - 'children

Exposed to the good sounds in the womb turn out remarkably bright' -and bad silent sounds.
"'We only use the bad stuff on the bad guys,' he said. He said the Americans used bad subliminal sounds on
Iraqi soldiers during the first Gulf War ('We warped "their brains for a hundred days') but they have had
`serious problems getting the subliminally implanted --out of their heads' during the years that followed.

`Negative things are a devil to get out.' He chuckled. He said ITN news once broadcast a story on the use

of silent sounds in the first Gulf War.
(ITN later told me, categorically, that they had never run such a story. Nowhere within their archive
database did I find anything approaching it.)


He said, 'You can transmit silent sounds into people's -heads via a window in the same way you can fire a
laser beam through a window to eavesdrop on a conversation. Conversely, the sounds can be transmitted
through the
Crummiest media -a satellite telephone or a crappy old tape recorder or a ghetto blaster.'
He said New Scotland Yard uses the technology, but: wouldn't tell me how. He said the Russians use it too.
And that was it. He cut the conversation short. He wished me the best and he hung up and I was left reeling and entirely unsure of everything he had said. This man seemed to have verified one of the world's most
enduring and least plausible conspiracy theories. For me, the idea that the government would surreptitiously
zap heads with subliminal sounds and remotely alter moods was on a par with the idea that they were
concealing UFOs in military hangars and transforming themselves into twelve-foot lizards. This conspiracy
theory has persisted because it contains all the crucial ingredients -the hidden hand of big government



teaming up with Machiavellian scientists to take over our minds like body snatchers.
The thing is, in this context, Jamal's Fleetwood Mac all-girl-covers-band-ghetto-blaster experience inside the
Brown Block at Guantanamo Bay suddenly made sense.

Jamal seemed fine when I met him in Manchester. Asked him if he felt at all unusual after listening to
Matchbox Twenty and he said no. But one shouldn't read too much into this. There is a very strong chance given
the history of the goat staring and the wall walking and so on, that they blasted Jamal with silent sound and it
just didn't work.

There was one thing I could chase up. Dr Oliver Lowery (or whoever he was) had name-checked to me a Dr
Igor Smirnov. He said Igor Smirnov had undertaken similar US government work in the field of silent sounds. I
looked Dr Smirnov up. I found him in Moscow. I corresponded with his office, and his assistant (Dr Smirnov
speaks little English) told me the following curious story.

It is a story the FBI has never denied.

Igor Smirnov was not prospering in the post War Moscow of 1993. His finances were so bleak that

when the Russian mafia turned up at his laboratory one evening, pressed the bell marked, somewhat ominously,
Institute for Psycho-Correction, and told Igor they'd pay him handsomely if he could subliminally influence certain
unwilling businessmen to sign certain contracts, he almost accepted their offer. But in the end it seemed just
frightening and unethical and he turned the gangsters down. His regular clients - the schizophrenics and the drug
addicts - may have been poor payers but at least they weren't the mafia.

Igor's day-to-day work in the early I990S was something like this: a heroin addict would turn up at his lab very

upset because he was a father-to-be but try as he might he cared more about the heroin than his unborn child. So

he'd lie on a bed, and Igor would blast him with subliminal messages. He'd flash them onto a screen front of the

addict's eyes and blast them through earphones, disguised by white noise, and the messages would say 'Be a good

father. Fatherhood is more important than heroin'. And so on.
This was a man once feted by the Soviet government, which - ten years earlier - had instructed him to blast 's silent
messages at Red Army troops on their way to Afghanistan. Those messages said, 'Do not get drunk fore battle'.

But the glory days were long gone by March I993 -the month Igor Smirnov received a telephone call, out of the
blue, from the FBI. Could he fly to Arlington, Virginia right away? Igor Smirnov was intrigued, and quite amazed,
and he got on a plane.

The US intelligence community had been spying on Igor Smirnov for years. It seemed he'd succeeded creating
a system of influencing people from afar -putting voices into their heads, remotely altering outlook on life perhaps
without the subject even knowing it was being done to them. This was a tangible, life, mechanistic
version of General Wickham's prayer groups, or Guy Savelli's goat staring, the kind of system the ambient
composer Steven Halpern had suggested Jim Channon back in the late 1970s. The question was could Igor do it
to David Koresh?

Could he put the voice of God into David Koresh`s head?

The Branch Davidians, an offshoot of the Seventh D Adventists, had been living around Waco, predicting
imminent Judgement Day, since 1935. When Vernon
Howell took over the church's leadership in the 1980s, and declared himself a Christ-figure, the anointed one,
the seventh and final messenger as outlined in _ Book of Revelation, and changed his name to David Koresh
and started selling weapons illegally to his congregation's separatist lifestyle, the US Fed Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms began take an interest. They imagined that a high-profile raid on the church would be
good for agency morale and PR So they tipped off the local media, told them the Branch Davidians were
theologically incomprehensible nuts and heavily armed (they were, but basically in the way that gun shops are
heavily armed) and they were going in.

What the BATF failed to predict was that Koresh had been waiting for confrontations like this, and relished

the prospect. It was his destiny to be attacked by a hostel army representing an out-of-control, sinister, heavy


handed new-world-order-type Babylon Government.

On 28 February I993 a hundred or so BATF agents stormed the church, but the raid turned into a gun



battle, during which four agents were killed, and the gun battle turned into a siege.
There is something far too familiar, in retrospect, about the whole thing. At Waco, just as at Abu Ghraib, the US
government behaved like grotesque caricatures of itself. The anti-big-government American right-wing had
harbored paranoid fantasies about the Clinton administration heavy-handedly destroying the lives of simply
people who wanted to live free, and Waco was the place where those conspiracy theories came true. Much of the
Iraqi population had been fed similarly wild piracy theories about American imperialistic hedonism that the
United States was violently out of control determined to force it's corruption and decadence on the devout -and
Abu Ghraib was the place where those conspiracy theories came true.
But there is a more disturbing parallel. David Koresh's Branch Davidians also seem to have been considered
guinea pigs in the midst of a long-awaited golden oppor0ty, an opportunity to try stuff out.

Back in 1993, the problem for advocates of out-the-box thinking within the US government and military,
establishments was that there was nobody suitably wicked out there on whom to test their ideas. The outlook
was so hopeful, in fact, that a ·US State Department social scientist called Francis Fukuyama declared 1989, to
widespread international acclaim, that it the end of history. Western democratic capitalism had proved so
superior to all its historical rivals, Fukuyama, that it was finding acceptance everywhere in the world. There was
simply nothing nefarious there on the horizon. Although this eventually out to be just about the worst prediction
ever, in 199:seemed too real. These were the fallow years for who wanted to experiment with new ideas on
suitable adversaries.

And then the Waco siege came along.
First there were the noises. Midway through the


-in the middle of March 1993 -the sounds of Tibetan Buddhist chants, screeching bagpipes, crying seagulls,
helicopter rotorblades, dentist drills, sirens, dying rabbits, a train and Nancy Sinatra's 'These Boots Are made
for Walking' began to blast into the church. It was FBI, in this instance, who did the blasting. There seventy-
nine members of David Koresh's congregation in there, including twenty-five children (twenty-seven if count
the unborn ones). Some of the parishioners put cotton wool in their ears, a luxury that was later unavailable
to Jamal at Guantanamo and the prisoners inside the shipping containers in al-Qa'im. Others apparently Tried
to enjoy it by ironically pretending it was a disco. This wasn't easy, as one of them, Clive Doyle, told me
when I telephoned him.

Clive Doyle is one of the very few survivors of the fire that ended the siege.
`Very rarely did they playa song straight through,' he said. 'They distorted it by slowing it down or speeding it
up. And the Tibetan monks were pretty ominous.' Then, apropos of nothing, he said, 'Do you think they blasted

us with those subliminal sounds?' 'I don't know,' I said. 'Do you?'
I don't know,' he said. 'We figured they were experimenting in a lot of different areas. They had a robot at came
down the drive one day, with a big antenna sticking out the top. What was that about?'

'I don't know,' I said.
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Koresh and his deputies. Excerpts from these tapes illustrate two things: the people the church were, somewhatalarmingly, of one mind - David Koresh's mind; the people on the outside of the church were, even more
alarmingly, of no cohesive mind set whatsoever.

STEVE SCHNEIDER (Branch Davidian): Who's controlling these guys? You've got guys out there right now
pulling their pants down, men that are mature, sticking their butts in the air and flipping the finger.


FBI NEGOTIATOR: Uh. Give me a moment. The guys that gravitate towards riding in tanks, jumping out of
airplanes, have a little different mindset to you and I, would you agree?


STEVE SCHNEIDER: I agree with you. But somebody's gotta be above these guys.

FBI NEGOTIATOR: Sure.



JIM CAVANAUGH (FBI Negotiator): I think we need to set the record straight. There were no guns on those
helicopters.


DAVID KORESH: That's a lie. That is a lie. Now, Jim, you're a damn liar. Let's get real.
JIM CAVANAUGH: David, I-
DAVID KORESH: No, you listen to me. You're

sitting there telling me that there were no guns on that helicopter?
JIM CAVANAUGH: I said they didn't shoot.

DAVID KORESH: You are a damn liar.

JIM CAVANAUGH: Well, you're wrong, David.

DAVID KORESH: You are a liar.

JIM CAVANAUGH: Okay. Well, just calm, down ...

DAVID KORESH: No! Let me tell you something. That may be what you might want the media to believe, but
there's other people that saw too. Now tell me, Jim, you're honestly going to say those helicopters didn't fire on
any of us?

JIM CAVANAUGH (after a long silence): David?

DAVID KORESH: I'm here.

JIM CAVANAUGH: Uh, yeah, uh what I'm saying is those helicopters did not have mounted guns. Okay? I'm not
disputing the fact that there might have been fire from the helicopters. Do you understand what I'm saying?
DAVID KORESH: Uh, no.

UNIDENTIFIED LITTLE GIRL: Are they going to come in and kill me?

UNIDENTIFIED NEGOTIATOR: No. Nobody's coming. Nobody's coming.

And this, from a press conference that occurred
Way through the siege:

JOURNALIST: Mr Ricks is there a consideration to use psychological warfare? Have you discussed it at all?

BOB RICKS (FBI spokesman): I don't know what psychological warfare is.

JOURNALIST: It was reported in the paper that you would play loud music, put bright lights on the compound all
night, to try to agitate the entire group. Is that possible?

BOB RICKS: We will not discuss tactics of that sort, but I would say the chances of doing that sort of activity are
minimal.

I have met Bob Ricks. He has been one of the FBI`s most outspoken critics of the Waco siege, and he all but
single-handedly prevented a similar raid occurring or on a group of white supremacists in Northern Oklahoma, at a
place called Elohim City. I don't think that Bob Ricks was lying during the press conference. I think the FBI`s left
hand didn't know what its right hand was up to.



At Waco, just like at Abu Ghraib, the Jim Channon like thinkers seem to have had to bide their time, wait for the

finger-flippers and the helicopter snipers to have their turn.
My guess is that the musical bombardment was inspired by a similar event that occurred four years earlier in Panama
City. The battle between General - Stubblebine and General Manuel Noriega had long been fought like two wizards
standing atop mountains throwing thunderbolts at one another. General Stubblebine had set his psychic spies onto
Noriega, who had countered by inserting little slips of paper into his shoes, and so on.

In the end, Noriega turned up at the Vatican Embassy

in Panama City, and PsyOps arrived on the scene with loudspeakers attached to their trucks, which were used in
repeatedly blast the building with Guns N'Roses, we1come to the Jungle'. If this event was inspired
Directly or indirectly) by Jim Channon's manual, it is appropriate that Noriega - who had given General

Stubblebine so much hassle that he couldn't concentrate
on walking through his wall - was finally felled by another First Earth Battalion idea.
I telephoned a dozen witnesses to the siege at Waco journalists and intelligence agents - and I asked them if they
knew of any strange goings-on beyond the music and the robot with the antenna. Three of them told me the same
story. I can't prove it, so it remains a rumor - one that sounds plausible but, then again, entirely implausible.

The rumor I heard involves a man I'll call Mr B. He enlisted in the US military in 1972, and between 1989 and
1989 he was in the Special Forces unit at Fort Bragg where he took part in the various General Stubblebine
inspired super-soldier programs. As a result he became -in the words of one man I spoke to -'not only the
greatest surreptitious break-in guy in the armed forces, but in the whole government'.


Mr B could break in anywhere, unseen and unheard. He had, to all intents and purposes, wholly and extra
ordinarily mastered level three of Glenn Wheaton's Jedi Warrior code: invisibility. But Mr B used his powers
for bad. He was convicted, in 1989, of breaking into women's apartments and raping them. He was sentence to
life imprisonment.

A soldier I cannot name swears that, on 18 April 1993, he spotted Mr B surreptitiously entering David
Koresh's church. Perhaps his four years in prison had diminished his powers, for the soldier recognized him
immediately. He said nothing at the time, because he knew he had witnessed a Black Op. An intelligence
agency must have sprung Mr B from jail.

The rumor ends like this: Mr B entered the Koresh compound, checked that the bugging devices were in
good working order, fixed those that weren't, crept out again, was transported back to his jail cell in Colorado
found God. He refused to grant me an interview because he said he no longer wanted to dwell on his past.
He remains to this day in a maximum-security prison That story remains a rumor, whereas Dr Igor Smirnov's
involvement in the Waco siege can safely be considered true. The FBI flew Dr Smirnov from Moscow to
Arlington,

Virginia, where he found himself in a conference room with representatives of the FBI, the CIA, the Defense
Intelligence Agency and the Advance Research Projects
Research Agency.
The idea, the agents explained, was to use the telephone lines. The FBI negotiators would bargain with Koresh as
usual but, underneath, the silent voice of God could tell Koresh whatever the FBI wanted God to say.

Dr Smirnov said this was possible.

But then bureaucracy crept into the negotiations. An FBI agent said he was concerned that the endeavor might
somehow lead to the Branch Davidians committing mass suicide. Would Dr Smirnov sign something to the effect
that if they did kill themselves as a result of the voice of God being subliminally implanted in their heads, he would
take responsibility?

Dr Smirnov said he wouldn't sign something like that. And so the meeting broke up.
An agent told Dr Smirnov it was a shame it didn't work out. He said they had already co-opted someone to play
the voice of God.
Had Dr Smirnov's technology been put into practice at Waco, the agent said, God would have been played by
Charlton Heston.



I was passing through Georgia, and thinking a lot a my telephone conversation with Dr Oliver Lowery,
So I decided to drive past the address I had for him. It was somewhere in the suburbs of Atlanta. I wonder if I'd
find a normal house or something like a fourteen-storey building behind three layers of barbed-wire defenses. A
gale was blowing so strongly I thought it would tip over my car.


It was a normal, slightly dilapidated wooden house a middle-class leafy street and the leaves were swirling
around so violently I had to switch on my windscreen wipers.

I parked the car and walked up his drive, shielding myself against the gale. I was feeling quite nervous. I
knocked. The whole thing happened so fast I can't even describe the person who opened the door. I have
impression of a craggy-looking man in his seventies, his white hair blowing in the wind.

I said, 'I'm really sorry to just turn up at your house if you remember we-'

He said, 'I hope the wind doesn't blow you over your journey back to your car.'

And then he closed the door on me.

I walked back down his drive. And then I heard voice again. I turned around. He was shouting something
through a crack in his door. He was shouting, 'I hope the wind doesn't blow you away.'

I smiled uneasily.

'You' d better take care,' he shouted.

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[tom bombadil]

IT IS EXACTLY LIKE A SKY BOX!!!

They are turning off the old signal you refer to, your TV wont work unless you by a FREEVIEW box, which is exactly the same as a SKY or cable box.

Hi, Happy new year to all.

truthseeker. I know that I will need a set top box, but 'they' can't cut me off from a signal or channel that I recive for free or pay for unless they block the signals from source. And if they wish then they can do that already with the old stuff.

The individual free channels are sent now in a narrower bandwidth, that is all. They can't send a signal to my box that changes how it recives those signals. They can only stop the paid-for stuff.

If it got to a situation that saw me, as an idividual blocked from the normal channels, then I would just need to go out and buy a new ten quid box. It is the same as sky in that one pays for sky and without that subscription I would be cut off from the benifits of sky tv, but I do still have access to all those free channels from the satalite.

I know this because I once had the multi room option.


Tom.