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humito
12-12-2008, 10:04 PM
So how do 'reptilians' reproduce ?? they must have sex but what about babies??...........I would assume like other reptiles they would lay eggs?? where are these kept?:eek:

rhydra
12-12-2008, 10:39 PM
The humanoid reptilians will have live births like most mammals, the egg shell will have become redundant as it is no longer a requirement for the offspring to be as numerous or to spend the last stages of their development outside the body of the mother. There is also no need for the mother to hide eggs from predators or to make a nest.

humito
12-12-2008, 11:10 PM
why is this ??? crocodiles have remained unchanged for millions of years having no need to evolve because they are top of the food chain .......they still lay eggs...........surly reptilian humanoids are only human when they shapeshift??? remaining a wholy reptilian species..........

jesta_g
12-12-2008, 11:10 PM
check the birth scene for this movie, Enemy Mine....

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x141/rewriter42/EnemyMine1985.jpg

that will probably give a good idea. The same as the reptilian being Gerri (the name given to the reptilian being) in this movie the reptilian race are asexual being both male and female and can change between being dominantly male or female. Similar to many other species they become pregnant themselves without having sex. This is the common theory that I have come across with the subject of the "reptilian's" reproduction.

shame I cant find exactly that scene because Gerri explains it pretty well in the scene. If you havnt seen the movie then its a good watch anyway.


and just for the crack of it ill add this spoo~oky scene *wriggles fingers*


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TufUH1T-F18

jesta_g
12-12-2008, 11:13 PM
crocodiles have remained unchanged for millions of years having no need to evolve


this is the same for apes, yet we're expected to believe that we come from them.
The reptilian race was genetically engineered like ourselves. There are many things that can be altered once genetic manipulation is brought to subject.

measle_weasel
12-12-2008, 11:30 PM
this is the same for apes, yet we're expected to believe that we come from them.
The reptilian race was genetically engineered like ourselves. There are many things that can be altered once genetic manipulation is brought to subject.

Who engineered the lizards?

jesta_g
12-12-2008, 11:55 PM
Who engineered the lizards?



good question.

there are multiple species of the "reptilian" race, the same with any species, the reptilians of this planet, earth, were created by the Ari-An race (Known as the annunaki, a shapeshifting race who themselves were created by the ancient Sirian race of "reptilians"). These earth-reptilians were the original slaves to the "gods" (Ari-An's) that rebelled and were forced underground prior a huge war that took place thousands of years ago on this planet and throughout the galaxy however it is far more complex than simply this, there is alot of evidence to support this and much more, one must dig deep enough to find it.

sorry but I really cant be bothered tonight going through the piles of notes and word pads I have accumulated/written over the years with research to type up an indepth explanation.
Many will come to certain conclusions though im fairly confident with my understanding so far of the ancient races and ancient history, though there are a few things i still would like to clarify and research far deeper into, for example - who were the first and original beings? etc, something that im sure can not be answered by an average Joe such as myself but is still an interesting subject to pass the time with.
Im currently in the middle of compiling my thoughts/notes/conclusions etc on all subjects, not only the reptilians, to write a book, which was started as a pet project "essay" of mine however I really feel id love to write a book, even if it isnt published :).

humito
13-12-2008, 01:17 AM
so the reptilians that are in charge of our planet and governments etc are shapeshifting reptiles.........they in turn were created by shapeshifting reptiles who in turn were created by an even more ancient species of reptile.
Humans were engineered by the reptilian shapeshifters as slaves and for food/energy.........these reptilian shapeshifters can shapeshift to look like humans..............they have then let humans loose all over the planet and prefer to pretend that they are not here by taking human form ,only shifting back to reptilians when feeding..........humans recreate themselves and have live births.........again how do the shapeshifting reptiles reproduce ,where are the eggs or live babies..........at what point do the offspring become old enough to contol a human shapeshift...............if they can copulate and give birth while taking on a human form surly the infant would still have no control over its shapeshifting ability..............
Even if what we know as reptilians are human reptilian hybrids that can shapeshift and these hybrids and their bloodlines are the ruling elite they surly answer to their creators .........where on earth are they........they must also be breeding and multiplyng...........where are their eggs and offspring.If they are inside the earth what are they hiding from? Why bother with all the shapeshifting why not just breed us and farm us and go about your lizardly buisness........they have been in charge of the world for a long time that means that they must be successfull that means that their populaution is increasung all the time too.........where is it ? I cant see that it would limit itself to the numbers that the elite families produce and allow humans to out breed it

ceti
13-12-2008, 03:04 AM
good question.

there are multiple species of the "reptilian" race, the same with any species, the reptilians of this planet, earth, were created by the Ari-An race (Known as the annunaki, a shapeshifting race who themselves were created by the ancient Sirian race of "reptilians"). These earth-reptilians were the original slaves to the "gods" (Ari-An's) that rebelled and were forced underground prior a huge war that took place thousands of years ago on this planet and throughout the galaxy however it is far more complex than simply this, there is alot of evidence to support this and much more, one must dig deep enough to find it.

sorry but I really cant be bothered tonight going through the piles of notes and word pads I have accumulated/written over the years with research to type up an indepth explanation.
Many will come to certain conclusions though im fairly confident with my understanding so far of the ancient races and ancient history, though there are a few things i still would like to clarify and research far deeper into, for example - who were the first and original beings? etc, something that im sure can not be answered by an average Joe such as myself but is still an interesting subject to pass the time with.
Im currently in the middle of compiling my thoughts/notes/conclusions etc on all subjects, not only the reptilians, to write a book, which was started as a pet project "essay" of mine however I really feel id love to write a book, even if it isnt published :).

were did you learn this though swerdlow?

jesta_g
13-12-2008, 03:45 AM
whoa nelly! *hits the brakes*

this you are gonna have to research yourself.
and I am sorry that i am not going into this in more detail tonight, really in the last couple of days Ive written massive posts on equally as intense subjects while taking care of my newborn and doing heavy shifts at work, i be knackered.

I never said the Ari-Ans (shapeshifters) were "reptilian". they were "created" themselves by the fore-fathers the Sirian race who are indeed reptilian (though there many other species in the sector known as Sirius. Apparently even a Dog race, which I am currently looking into further)

Humans were engineered by the reptilian shapeshifters as slaves and for food/energy

Humans were,one of many "trial" races, engineered by the Ari-Ans (and other co-operating allied species that wanted "in" on the cellestial piece of pie called Earth).
The native Reptilians were first, then the ADAMIC race (that could not reproduce) then the EVE race that were tempted by and bred with the Reptilian race which royally pissed off the slave master "gods" (The Ari-An's and co.). in reaction the Ari-An wiped out their creations and drove the reptilians underground (hence all the references to "hell" and casting the serpent down etc blah blah blah and underground "dragons" and "demons") . The Ari-An's then went back to the "drawing boards" and created modern domesticated man. Something that was intelligent enough to be a good slave while also not being as strong or intelligent enough to rebel against the Ari-Ans, however thats all gone tits up for them also, just look at history right up til today.

they have then let humans loose all over the planet and prefer to pretend that they are not here by taking human form ,only shifting back to reptilians when feeding..........humans recreate themselves and have live births.........again how do the shapeshifting reptiles reproduce ,where are the eggs or live babies..........at what point do the offspring become old enough to contol a human shapeshift.......


id like to add that please remember that the "reptilians" resonate on a higher frequency that is outwith our elecrto magnetic spectrum of sight. so altho someone (baby/child/teen/adult) may appear human to our eyes on a "higher frequency" they will appear as reptilian. Remember these beings have had thousands/hundreds of thousands if not millions of years to perfect this. we have n proof of their ancient existence as t only take a thousands years for nature to take its course to completely wipe out history. If we as a race would to all be killed tomorrow it would only take a thousand years for our historical "footprint" to be erased from this planets history. there have been hundreds of previous ancient civilisations and very likely at one point even upto millions/billions of years multiple races that one inhabited this planet. once again a thousand years its all nature takes to completely wipe away evidence of a civilisations existence. just look at egypt and the major deserts across the middle east, huge ancient structures are still being found under the seas of sands. now lets think whats under the oceans (which covers 70% of the planet) or in the deep jungles that are still untouched by modern man.

as for the egg theory....... i dont think they are reproduced in an egg. best back away from that theory. Advanced genetics and modification today could very easily create a reptilian/mammal that could give birth like any mammal. fuck they got these "spider-goats" thats "milk" is a thick spiderweb which is then turned into what we know a cevlar body armour. the egg thing is very unlikely should an advanced species want to get rid of that form of reproduction im sure it would.

Im fairly certain these beings more recently now only reproduce in "test-tubes" as genetic experiments etc. this is what has "disconnected" them from the "oneness" of consciousness and why many beings who at first were a part of this "slave race" agenda have now turned against it and wish to create a hybrid through our DNA and theirs that will once again "re-connect" to the ether of the universe through natural conception of "love"(sex). This is another loooong subject in itself that is worth also investigating and once again im getting waaay to cross eyed the now to go into further detail.

If they are inside the earth what are they hiding from? Why bother with all the shapeshifting why not just breed us and farm us and go about your lizardly buisness.......

I feel that the "hollow earth" also resonates on a seperate frequency hence why we cannot find it so easily. Im yet to conclude also what race etc is inside the hollow earth and weither they are hostile or not.
my gut is telling me that the beings inside the earth are "good" and have actually got the right idea, heres a wee description ive came to like....

when you live at home do you live inside where it is warm/cozy and protective or do you live on the roof?..... now put that in context with the hollow earth theory.
These Ari-Ans are breeding us and farming us, just look around you in the world... see it?. they are indeed going about there Lizardly business.
they are not successful yet however and their main aim i feel now is to have a full blooded human that contains all the specific DNA they want of the reptilian helix while being fully human in form in order for them to experience this 3rd dimensional reality.(or was, as alot of info i have gathered shows that they have "lost" and we are currently going through a transition which is preparing us for the upcoming electromagnetic "shift".)

This is all very very simple layman's descriptions for ya, honestly if you want to get to the bottom of this then start with less presumptions and being less quick off the plot and do some deep research and take notes while your at it, you may not come to the same conclusion as i have ( i even realise i could be wrong) tho once you have a much bigger picture through understanding facts/evidence and solid theory then you can arrive at your own conclusion.

here is a post I did a while ago that scratches on the massive ammounts of evidence to support that we did not come from apes and we have been domesticated as a race...

this is very strong but simple evidence to why we do not and can not have evolved from prim-apes.

it is impossible that we directly evolved from apes.
neanderthal man did evolve from miocene apes then they had their DNA tampered with and mixed with another race that is does not originate from this planet in order to getting Cro-magnon man (homo erectus) then suddenly cro-magnon rapidly jumped to homo-sapien.

neanderthal mans feet is one clue to this. they had perfect feet with perfect balance -

http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/assets/images/Shiptonfootillustration24-2.gif


their weight distribution was on 90% of the foot giving them near perfect balance and making it far easier for them to walk longer distances/climb trees and hills and have more lower body strength. to say the least this foot was perfect!...

Now look at cromagnon man/modern mans feet -

http://images-cdn01.associatedcontent.com/image/A2123/212301/300_212301.jpg


weight distribution is only on 70% going from the big toe following across the ball along the side down to the heel. the "inner palm" and the four toes are not used in balance. This makes it harder for us to balance/climb trees/walk longer distance and gives us far less strength.

http://happyfeetbiz.com/page/temp_scan.jpg

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/tryit/evolution/images/feet.gif
- this is a not bad example which shows apes weight distribution which then by comparing to the neanderthal foot print you can see how THEY EVOLVED from Miocene ape to have a far better foot shape and strength (this is how evolution works). NOW look at our foot (homo-sapien) , the weight is only distributed on 70% of the foot, which is FAR LESS affective versitile, WHY WOULD EVOLUTION DROP SUCH PERFECT DESIGN??? THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

and i hear ya, what does that mean? well it means a whole bloody lot in context with the bullshit that is modern day evolution theory as ....
WHY WOULD EVOLUTION DROP SUCH A PERFECT FOOT???!!!???
SURELY IF WE EVOLVED FROM APE TO NEANDERTHAL MAN THEN CRO-MAGNON WE WOULD HAVE (BY EVOLUTION STANDARDS) STILL HAVE THIS PERFECT FOOT!!

NO! because WE modern homo-sapien did not come from neanderthal man, this WAS an entirely different species that once lived ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS all around the world. also it should be pointed out that these being WERE NOT CAVEMEN and there have been found "tools" and equipment that we cant even use today. this ancient technology was used by a race of humanoids that spanned across the whole of the planet.

http://historyofindia.com/show_image.php?id=1&scalesize=0&nocount=y
- ancient Indian aircraft designs known as VIMANAS, one f many many technological things mentioned in the Mhabharata and veda texts .

in fact its a shame i dont have any images for but nearly all of the chinese space program technology is based on ANCIENT DESIGNS discovered in the himilayas and in the XIAN province which are said to be handed down from DRAGON (reptilian) kings. also its worth, as i mentioned in a previous posts, checking out the HUNDREDS of pyramids found in china.

not to mention all the technological anomalies from the mayans and in africa that we cant even explain today.

that means a whole lot to the evidence.....

furthermore!....

neanderthal man had 48+2 chromosones yet cromagnon-man/modern man has 46+2 chromosones, THIS IS A HUUUUUUGE DIFFERENCE IN BIOLOGICAL TERMS, HUUUUUGE! WHY WOULD EVOLUTION DROP 2 WHOLE CHROMOSONES??
yet!!.....
1. WE HAVE A MUCH LARGER BRAIN AND SKULL CAPACITY.

http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/myphotos/skulls/neanderthal-vs-human.jpg
- altho we have a smaller skull insize especially jaw-line we have much more room for the brain.

2.OUR BONES ARE MUCH THINNER AND LIGHTER

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/83/77983-004-EA7EC442.jpg

3.OUR SKIN IS NOT AS WELL ADAPTED TO SUNLIGHT

4. WE HAVE ADIPOSE TISSUE - 10 TIMES!! AS MUCH TISSUE

5.OUR BODY HAIR PATTERNS HAVE BEEN REVERSED SOME EVEN MISSING.
6.OUR HEAD HAIR AND NAILS MUST BE TRIMMED UNLIKE NEANDERTHAL MAN.

http://www.lbl.gov/Publications/Currents/Archive/view-assets/Nov-17-2006/Neanderthal_2D.jpg
- that grew to a point and did not need trimming like ours (head, beards, nails)

7.LOCOMOTION - WE HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS

http://www.acrstudio.com/projects/word/nobel_tim_webster_sue/newbarbarians_detail.jpg
- this image of neanderthals with hair removed shows the weight and muscle distribution for their body. as you can see their weight leans more to the front wheres they then use more of the foot and leg muscles. NOTICE also their forearms are much longer and stronger than our which shows they evolved from Miocene ape. WHY WOULD EVOLUTION DROP SUCH A GOOD DESIGN FOR MOBILITY ACROSS TERRAIN AND CLIMBING OBJECTS??

http://reginanuzzo.com/wp-content/walking1.jpg
- as you can see here we stand upright which distributes our wight to the back which gives us less strength in the front of the body.

8.SPEECH - OUR THROATS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

9.SEX - NO TYPICAL SIGN OF OESTROUS CYCLES THAT ALL MAMMALS/ANIMALS HAVE INCLUDING NEANDERTHAL MAN, INSTEAD HUMAN FEMALES HAVE MENSTRUAL CYCLES. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrous_cycle )

10.WE HAVE OVER 4'000 GENETIC DISORDERS

IF WE COME FROM APE WHY WOULD "EVOLUTION" DROP ALL OF THESE THINGS ....... THAT IS NOT HOW "EVOLUTION" WORKS AND IN MANY WAYS GAINED MORE DISABILITIES??

http://www.theratandmouse.co.uk/weblog/20070604evolution-1.jpg
- WITH THIS INFORMATION AN IMAGE LIKE THIS STANDS ABSOLUTELY NO GROUND WHATSOEVER! THIS IS SHEER LAZINESS IN EVALUATING THE "EVOLUTION" OF HUMANOIDS.

it would appear that we have been DOMESTICATED!!!

even darwin said himself after announcing his bullshit evolution theory (WHICH HE SPENT 20 YEARS TRYING TO PROVE!!!) -
"we seem to be like a domesticated animal"

even the name HUMAN which comes from the sumerian LULU meaning -
"domesticated animal or slave"

IT IS AS IF WE WERE SPECIFICALLY AND DELIBERATLY MADE WEAKER IN ORDER TO NOT BE REBEL AGAINST OUR "SLAVE MASTERS" .

and some more .....

Genetic disorders are there DUE TO GENETIC MANIPULATION - in all forms of evolution disorders are killed off before puberty which suggests this is not "handed down" but has been placed in our genes. THEY SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

The so-called "pre-humans" ARE NON-EXTINCT MIOCENE APES. Apart from their Bipedality (where an organism moves by means of its two rear limbs) , THEY SHARE NO BASIC CHARACTERISTICS WITH HUMANS , NONE WHATSOEVER!!

http://www.detectingdesign.com/images/EarlyMan/Australopithecus%20africanus.jpg
- neanderthal came from this species, Australopithecus, which is how evolution works.

WE CAME FROM OUTTA NOWHERE IT WOULD SEEM, WHICH IS NOT LOGICAL. SO WE HAVE TO CONCLUDE IN SOME WAY THAT WE WERE BROUGHT HERE OR WE WERE GENETICULLY ALTERED AND MIXED WITH A SEPERATE RACE THAT IS NOT FROM EARTH.

EVEN MORE ...... there are 312!!! differences between our nearest ancestor cro-magnon man (homo erectus) and us homo-sapien. 312!!
which entirely suggests further tampering and genetic manipulation.

if the theory of evolution is correct then there is noway!! NOWAY AT ALL!! that we could /should and would be in the current position we are today with technology and understanding etcetc
we should be still smashing rocks together and raping our own (as mainstream views suggest but even then this is wrong).
NO, we have had assistance and have been pushed in a specific direction.

NEANDERTHAL MAN WHICH WAS ONE OF MANY HUMANOID RACES THAT EVOLVED FROM THE MIOCENE APES WAS WIPED OUT IN ORDER TO MAKE WAY FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE NEW UPGRADE, US.

ONE THAT THINK MORE LOGICAL (WHICH WE KNOW CAN AND HAS BEEN THE DOWNFALL OF HUMANS) THO IS LESS STRONG AND PHSYICALLY BETTER OFF.

with this very minimal and simple information I can say, as with many scientist who seem to be still afraid to bring this to light, that we ,Homo-sapien/modern humans, our bodies have been made with specific intentions and have been domesticated through the altering/manipulation of our genetics.

Humans are NOT native to this planet, Earth, (we stick out like a sore thumb!) along with domesticated plants and many other animals for example the cheetah is genetically modified/cloned as its spine has been extended, it has cat instincts, dog like paws and mixed spots . like we do to the humanoid species , the cheetah to the feline species sticks out like a sore thumb.

WE HAVE BEEN GENETICALLY ENGINEERED BY "OUTSIDE" INTERVENTION FOR , AS SO FAR, UNKNWN PURPOSES...... APPARENTLY DOMESTICATION.

and i havnt even given details on the 7- 20 feet tall humanoids found all around the world!! .....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/revparadigm/giant3xa1.jpg

http://www.stevequayle.com/GG.Images/giant.femur.gif

- as i mentioned on a previous post there are images that are fake of these giant skeletons however there are also many that are real. i go onto in one of my previous posts as to how and why there were giant humanoids due to a much thicker atmsphere that was once around the earth at a time when the earth was also much smaller (yes the earth is growing, there is no such thing as continental drift, its just that the planet is growing)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI
- clip of evidence the earth is growing.

im sorry that i have not provided as many images or links as i normally like to but this is as good a chance as any to do a lil homework and research (as i have done much of with the help of some very intelligent people ) to come to this conclusion.
i can assure you all genetic/biological refferences are fact. the only theory that does no hold ground is the ET intervention however all evidence and information (which by many of my friends involved in high up sciences has concluded) entirely supports this theory.

and here are a few other posts I have done over today and yesterday which may help you in your understanding, I suggest using the information as a bridge to further investigate for yourself. never base your opinions strictly on anothers views, there are thusands of sources out the to gather that bigger picture.....

.... WE ARE the (remaining) "reptilians", it is written in our DNA as it is shown throughout history....

http://www.bibleorigins.net/SerpentLordNingishzida.jpg

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http://www.crystalinks.com/anunnakidna.jpg

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http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/AdamAndEve.jpg

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http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/tree_o4.jpg

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http://www.ch.cam.ac.uk/magnus/molecules/nucleic/dna1.jpg

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http://www.genebraska.com/dnacaduceus.gif

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http://genome.gsc.riken.go.jp/hgmis/graphics/slides/images/caduseussm.jpg

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http://www.crystalinks.com/chakrascaduseus.jpg

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http://www.crystalinks.com/chakrawheels.jpg

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http://shalincraft.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/seven_chakras.jpg




really think about it now........

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Oh there is alot more to add to this, I can assure you, as it is across the planet throughout history spoken of the "serpent" in the "tree of life" tho as Ive mentioned on a few other posts tonight im a wee bit knackered to go into this in more depth....
so instead I decided to let these images speak for themselves.

"tree of life" = DNA , "Serpent" = Reptilian bloodline in our DNA, which has gradually "filtered" through history right up to today. This is why the elite bloodlines wish to inbreed or remain as "pure" blooded as possible when reproducing. They wish to keep as close as possible to the ancient full blooded "reptilian" race as possible while remaining human in order to stay manifested in this "dimension", the "reptilian" were/are not of this 3rd dimnesional frequency.

No matter how much people say I dont believe or accept the "reptilian" subject there is something very important to do with it, this is for certain. From ancient cultures around the world who say the same "creation" stories of reptilian "gods" right upto thousands of young children today (that IMO I trust) who say they have been raped/attacked and seen other children (including babies and animals) killed before them by reptilian beings im gonna have to conclude for now that like it or not there is something to this reptilian subject that must be exposed.
what I have shown in those images is one of many things that link with the subject.

we are the descendants of a reptilian race that once existed (possibly/likely still does) and their DNA/biology not only remains in us physically (the reptilian brain) but genetically.



sorry that I went off the subject of the thread, please continue :-)

1- it is plain common sense that there is other life out in the universe and on our "level" this is only the 3rd dimension so then add inter-dimensional beings on that list and it is very very veeeery probable that a humanoid reptilian race is possible along with many other species even some that we cant even imagine. the posibilties/varieties of life through even the "simple" understandings of dna are limitless. The "Macrobes" (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=txgLWoQ0wRI) are worth researching along the lines of this subject.

2- Alot of my judgement also stands ground with the thousands of children that have witnessed or had an encounter with these (and other) beings. I trust a child more than any adult.

3- DNA / Biology/ "evolution" etcetc all prove that a reptilian race (and millions even billions of other humanoid species) can exist.

The statitistics

- The number of galaxies. An estimated 50 billion galaxies are visible with modern telescopes and the total number in the universe must surely exceed this number by a huge factor, but we will be conservative and simply double it. That's 100,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe.

- The number of stars in an average galaxy. As many as hundreds of billions in each galaxy.

Lets call it just 100 billion.

That's 100,000,000,000 stars per galaxy.

- The number of stars in the universe (and growing).

So the total number of stars in the universe is roughly 100 billion x 100 billion.

That's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars, 10 thousand, billion, billion. Properly known as 10 sextillion. And that's a very conservative estimate.

- The number of stars that have planetary systems. The original extra-solar system planet hunting technology dictated that a star needed to be to close to us for a planet to be detected, usually by the stars 'wobble'. Better technology that allows us to measure the dimming of a stars brightness when a planet crosses its disk has now revolutionised planet hunting and new planets are being discovered at an ever increasing rate. So far (August 2003) around 100 have been discovered so we have very little data to work on for this estimate. Even so, most cosmologists believe that planetary formation around a star is quite common place. For the sake of argument let us say it's not and rate it at only one in a million and only one planet in each system, as we want a conservative estimate, not an exaggerated one. That calculation results in:

10,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe. Ten million, billion, as a conservative estimate.

- The number planets capable of supporting life. Let's assume that this is very rare among planets and rate it at only one in a million. Simple division results in:

10,000,000,000 planets in the universe capable of producing life. Ten billion!


For another approach I recommend The Drake Equation. This states that the number of communicating civilisations in our galaxy (note, our Galaxy only, not the universe) likely depends on a number of factors which must combine to yield a habitable planet where life has the chance to develop to a certain level of technological know-how. These factors include the rate of formation of stars like the Sun, the fraction of those with planets, the fraction of Earth- like planets, the fraction of such planets where life develops, the fraction of those where life becomes intelligent, the fraction of intelligent species who can communicate in a way we could detect, and the lifetime of the communicating civilisations. As you may imagine, There is a lot of debate about reasonable values for most of these factors.

Frank Drake's own estimate puts the number of communicating civilisations in just our Galaxy alone at 10,000.

In order to answer the question of the existence of extraterrestrial life, it need exist on only ONE other planet. Given those odds, how can it not exist?


4- There were dinosaurs with opposable thumbs, a key to evolution, simlar to humans. If man evolved from from miocene ape (which we did not, see this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36465&page=10) for a handful of details i have pointed out on the domestication of man) in only ten of thousands of years then within the millions of years that dinosaurs existed there would have been plenty of time for evolution to take its course inwhich a humanoid "reptilian" could have lived.

5- throughout history all around the world there are accounts of a lizard/reptilian race ("gods") that bred with man and genetically altered our dna and came from the stars or from underground.
- The Nu khua (dragon kings) of china who built the Pyramids across forbiddon province's. The Nu khua are said to be a "serpent" race that came from the stars.
-the Nagas of india and the pacific islands who are describe as being a lizard race that came from the land of Mu (Lemuria) and taught knowledge to the priests of man. Mu was said to have been destroyed (read the mahabharata) during a great war between the races of the Nagas and the ancient masters who were described as being blonde haired and blue eyed.
- The Chitauri of Africa, a "reptilian" race said to have interbred and created modern man. the chitauri are spoken of throughout african history.


-Djedhi of ancient khem (egypt) were the "serpent" kings who interbred within their bloodlines and were said to being shapeshifting reptilians.
-Tanipwa of new zealand (http://www.geocities.com/rigvedsamhita/vedicnz.htm), the same race as the "Nagas" that came from the land of Mu.

this is only a handful of hundreds of historical accounts that speak of reptilian beings ("gods" to many) who either came to the planet from the stars or lived underground, i highly suggest reading Flying Serpents and Dragons: The story of mankinds reptilian past (http://books.google.com/books?id=2TtOjwtbXG8C&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=Flying+Serpents+and+Dragons:+The+story+of+manki nd's+reptilian+past+revealed&source=web&ots=hCKJhEfHme&sig=gzszN83tIu8SK-XcDDDPxEbbj58&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA5,M1)By R.A. Bouley.

and a wee bit more quickly...

Ancient references to reptiles and serpents
In the Americas several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings. There are historical accounts about reptiloids devouring human children, and also tales of Serpents of Wisdom enlightening Humankind (such as the mayan story of Gukumatz).

The Mayans speak of a Reptilian species, referred to often as "Iguana-Men", who descended from the sky to take control of their civilisation, teaching them the art of pyramid building as well as demanding human sacrifice.

The Hopi refer to a race of Reptilians called the Sheti, or Snake-Brothers, who live underground. The Cherokee and other American Indian peoples also refer to Reptilian races, as well as their origins in Atlantis

In ancient Greece Cecrops, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake.


The Chinese, Japanese and Europeans extensively speak throughout their history of beings such as Dragons (both physical and non-physical forms thereof), Vampires, Kappa, and others. The first Emperor of China, Huang-Ti, was said to be part Dragon, and was said to be born looking like a Reptilian. It was also said that his mother was impregnated by a beam of light emanating from the star Alpha Draconis, which Stewart Swerdlow and others claim is the home star system of the Draco Reptilian species.

In Japan underground bases where the Dragon Kings live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of 'Dragons'. (there are also many other reptilian races referred to, such as the Kappa).


In the Middle-East, Reptilian beings ranging from certain Jinn to Dragons and Serpent-Men, have been spoken of since ancient times. In one of the apocryphal books purporting to be the lost Book of Jasher, a serpent race is described.

In Australia the aborigines speak of a reptilian race which lives underneath the Earth and governs over men. The Aboriginal chiefs have spoken of going into the Earth where these beings resided. There they claim there is extensive technology. The Aborigines say that they are descended from a race of dragon-humans that once lived on an enormous continent that spanned the entire Pacific ocean, and that most of it sank beneath the waves in ancient times, but that Australia is a remnant of it, and this is why there are so many reptilian animals there.

6- The hundreds of writers/documentors from all walks of life such as science,history, anthropology, archeology, geography etc that have researched and documented thousands of sources and produced many books on the subject.

Here are a few books worth reading (Note there are many many more books that provide incredible evidence to support the existence of these reptilian beings and much more)...

Blue Blood True Blood (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17a.htm)

The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17c.htm#Montauk:%20The%20Alien%20Connectio n)


Atlantis, Alien visition and Genetic Manipulation (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6056789081969524094)

7- Men such as Phil Schneider (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-dw-vTclJ8o)who have incredible accounts of first hand encounters with not just a reptilian race but many other seperate races. If you have not come across phil schneider yet then I seriously suggest doing so, Phil worked on the underground bases across america including Dulce and "Area 51", He was later killed, as he weeks before hand had "predicted"/spoke of during many seminars/talks before his death. He also had scars and bodily disfigurement due to said encounters that were violent.
There are plenty of other individuals that claim or have further proof to support the existence of these "reptilian" beings.

8- Our genetics/DNA and physical biology entirely suggests manipulation.This in itself is many months of research alone. The molecular biology of the human race is an anomaly even on its own which supports what is being said by the ancient cultures. We were genetically manipulated by a previous race of beings who are described as "reptilian" among many seperate species.


Do I believe the reptilian exist? No!
Is there plenty of evidence to support they exist? Yes!

I have a very good idea if/how they exist and I will remain open minded until the truth is revealed. however one thing i will stand by is that out there in the universe there i a reptilian race of beings. whether they have been or are still on earth I dont know however there is plenty in histry to suggest they have.

It is clear that it is an interesting subject and the fact we are conversing on the idea is good enough however It is plain ignorance to state that a reptilian Humanoid race does not exist. Do a lil research, there are thousands of sources to choose from.

What I have pointed out in this post is only the tip of the iceberg to the evidence there is that proves the existence of these beings....


Or is your judgement based on "i havnt seen it so it doesnt exist" ? if so then .....

I THINK......
GRAVITY/SOUNDWAVES/RADIOWAVES/HEATWAVES/MAGNETIC FIELDS/ATOMS/DARK MATTER/UV RAYS/INFRARED/RADIATION/ELECTRICITYAND AIR!
(just to name a wee list)
ALL DO NOT EXIST!!!

why ? .................BECAUSE I CANT SEE THEM!
YES THATS RIGHT! i dont believe you that gravity exists or that air exists nope i dont trust any of you at all. nope atoms arnt anywhere! neither are soundwaves all a figment of the imagination

OH WAIT I have more;

I THINK;
elephants,giraffes, eskimo people, america, japan (shit lets throw nearly every country in the world in there as ive not travelled much) , rockets, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

ALL DO NOT EXIST!!!! BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEE THEM!!!

i dont care if thousands or millions of you have seen any of these or interacted with them I CANT OR HAVE NOT SEEM THEM ....... EVER!! so dont tell me they exist!!! and im not gonna prove my self right in this because I HAVNT SEEN THEM AND SURELY THE MAJORITY OF WORLD HAS NOT SEEN THESE THINGS ALSO!!

NOPE NO SUCH THING AS AIR I DONT SEE IT, NOPE NO ELEPAHANTS (EVEN IF THERE ARE PHOTOS, PHOTOSHOP DOES A GREAT JOB ) I MEAN COME ON UV LIGHT HOW SILLY OF YOU ALL.

Seeing is most definatly not believing.

I feel it is very likely that a race of "reptilian" beings exist, (actually imo theres more than one species). I have came to this conclusion due to years of research and interest that has lead me from source to source/book to book educating my self to the idea I have today.

heres one for ya....


Disprove they exist?please tell me why they dont exist.....



there are fields within and out of other fields around our body, The Tori "heart" field is the "8 ft" field that circles us however there is alot more to go with this subject.

The Merkaba field not only is the star tetrahedral crystalline field that rotates/resonates around us but also spans out upto 30 ft in the form of a typical "ufo". The govt. technology many has seen of physical flying saucers are just Physical manifestations of the MERKABA in order for the PTB/pilot to "travel" through the dimensions,however there are some cases (as not all ufos are "flying sacers") where ufos are actual beings using their MERKABA,

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/sep_merkaba.jpg
-sorry best image that i could find of this :o

You see, History has talked about the Mer-Ka-Ba mostly as the vehicle that allows a person to ascend or descend into the higher or lower worlds. But actually the Mer-Ka-Ba is much more than just a vehicle of ascension. It can be, really, anything — since it is the primal pattern that created all things and all universes, both visible and invisible.

In the Bible there is reference to Ezekiel and the wheels by which Ezekiel ascended into heaven. This was the Mer-ka-Ba.
In the Torah, there is reference to the Merkavah (as it is spelled in Hebrew) which has two different meanings: One meaning is ''chariot,'' which is a vehicle; the other is the ''Throne of God.'' When the two definitions are combined, the true meaning comes to life.

In Ancient Egypt, this primal pattern was called the Mer-Ka-Ba. It was actually three words, not one. Mer meant a kind of light that rotated within itself. Ka meant spirit, in this case referring to the human spirit. And Ba meant the human body — though it also could mean the concept of Reality that spirit holds. And so the entire word in ancient Egypt referred to a rotating light that would take the spirit and the body from one world into another.

Credo Mutwa, the spiritual leader of the Zulu tribe in Africa, explains that Merkaba (one word) was a Zulu word meaning a space/time/dimension vehicle. He told me that according to Zulu legend his entire tribe had come from another dimension here to Earth using the Merkaba.

Technically, it is an electro-magnetic field sitting at about four degrees Kelvin, found primarily within the microwave range — at least in the third dimension — that is entirely geometric in nature. Specifically, the geometry used is called ''Sacred Geometry,'' as this particular geometry is found in the creation patterns of all things in Creation.

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/sep_merkaba_geometry.jpg
- I wish I could find larger images of this diagram, notice that it is a cross section of an even larger torus around us compared to that which circles the heart.
Think Fractals....

http://www.fractalwisdom.com/FractalWisdom/deepvalleymandel.gif

http://classes.yale.edu/fractals/Panorama/Art/Tilings/ButterfliesI.gif
- felt id add this one of butterflies forming the fractal hexagram.

around/in our cells is this field, the same with around us and any living object then again around the planet then again around the solar system then the galaxy then the universe ....

http://sinequanonthebook.com/images/world-torus_1_.gif
- now also place a human being in the centre where the earth appears. all in existence has this field.

We all have a Merkaba field around us. We use it to connect with the higher dimensions. It is the divine light vehicle used by the Masters to connect with and reach those in tune with the higher realms. This also balances our Yin/Yang - duality - polarity - electromagnetic energies.

In the sacred mystery schools sacred geometrical exercises were the bases of their beliefs. It was understood that in order to transform your physical body into light that you had to create an energy field of light around you in order to separate you from the lower vibrations.

The Merkaba rotates when activated. Mer-Ka-Ba means the Spirit / Body surrounded by counter-rotating fields of Light, (wheels within wheels), spirals of energy as in DNA, which transports Spirit / Body from one dimension to another.

Merkaba can take on many forms of light. It is made up of two star tetrahedrons.

The Merkaba can connect into the grid systems of the earth, the "Christ" Grid (unified grid) and other Grid Systems.

The Merkaba serves to balance all chakras, and lead one into whole-brain synchronization.

Merkaba meditation incorporates pranic breathing techniques, which brings Life Force Energy directly into the body.

The Merge of the Hour Glass becomes the Star of David, which is the spiraling frequency of ascension

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/pyrhourglass.jpg

12 is about TIME - or the illusion thereof created by the energies of the Great Pyramid (below) combined with its ethereal twin (above) - pyramid twins - the hour glass - time. Numbers - Like Pi

The way our "souls" spiral into consciousness

Is the Spiral reversing now?

The Great Pyramid Is A Double Helix (http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.htm)

http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.gif

"Jacob's Ladder" aka DNA (http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/jacob_pillar_dna.htm)

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/dnasm.jpg

DNA is also referred to as the "Tree of life"-

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/tree_o4.jpg
- and so it is said that the serpent was in the tree of life.
This is a wee realisation on the "reptilian" subject as I believe that we are of the Reptilian's DNA when they "created" us and that the symbol of the Tree and the serpent represents the Serpent DNA within our DNA.

This links to the chakras and the "serpent light" when your kundalini energy (which flows like a serpent) moves through the chakra system.
with this we can also see how the very near future in relation to the "shift in consciousness" is a complete "re-tuning" to all that is in existence, in particular for us as our DNA "awakens" and re-alligns with the cosmic flow.

http://www.666blacksun.com/Chakras%20Caduceus.gif

The twin serpents (towers) are said to represent the Ida and the Pingala, the two "tunnels" or pathways of psychic energy which reside in the body, and which channel and regulate the flow of psychic energy. This flow must become balanced into a central tube for the 'kundalini' spiritual energy to flow safely. The kundalini is directly augmented or suppressed in the body by the patterns of breath and breathing that each person uses. It is strengthened by meditation.

To be made whole/complete Osiris must have his Pillar... or his wyfe of the Divine Marriage (Chemical Wedding). This is describing what happens when the Kundalini (spiritual energy) rises through the chakras to the Pituitary Gland and joins the Cosmic energy in the Pineal Gland to form the Divine Marriage.

After undergoing numerous initiations one attains enlightenment symbolized by the presence of "the Elect," or the 144,000 and fully functioning DNA. When the individual has mastered their own individual flow of energy, and unsealed or opened each chakra and its corresponding system of biochemical (endocrine glands) and organic energy, they then must face the final struggle, or Armageddon, which is the prerequisite for attaining the "eighth level" of psychic power.

*sorry going off on a wee tangent here but as you will see it all relates*

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/VoDouPhys.gif

Spin - 8 dimensions X 8 subdivisions =64, fractals into infinity.

The 64 Elements (codons) of the DNA are the total of 20 amino acids with varying quantities of this 64 codons plus two and one stop codon.

four is the most used number in the whole universe. Three Dimensions of space and one of time. One is always different, opposite polarity, working as a centerpiece for the other three.

For example -

Gravity - Electromagnetic -Weak Atomic F. - Strong Atomic F.
Earth - Water - Fire - Air
Cytosine - Thymine - Adenine - Guanine
Nitrogen - Carbon - Hydrogen - Oxygen

The I Ching and the Genetic Code

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/ehichgen.gif
-The 64 hexagrams and 24 amino acids

In the I Ching two three-line kua (It is interesting to point out that the serpent "gods"/kings of china were called the NU-KUA), or trigrams as they are called in the West, are combined to make a hexagram. There are eight trigrams altogether or Pa (8) Kua, each named for a specific attribute, and associated with specific corerspondences. The combination of 8 x 8 trigrams result in the sixty four hexagrams (DNA), and insights into the nature of a hexagram can be deduced by studying it's component trigrams.

The fully enlightened individual thus attains Unified (christ) -Consciousness which 888 symbolizes. They master the physical and metaphysical laws of "karma", which is how the person becomes "immortal" and is freed from the necessity to "reincarnate".

Hopi Blue Star Prophecy. Hopi Prophecy speaks of Twin Kachinas - white and blue. Twin - Merging of Self - Twin Pyramids - DNA - Twin Towers imploding.

A place of Global communication, The Twin Towers, didn't fall they imploded - merged into each other. This is a wake-up call for humanity.

To the PTB the towers falling is their symbolism to state that they do not wish us and our "serpent" pillers to allign when the shift occurs. They wish to keep us in this 3rd density (dimension).

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/archet6.gif
- Stellated Earth Grid.

Extend star points from the Earth Grid in a phi ratio from the pentagonal sides of the internal dodecahedron, and you have one of our most beautiful and intricate forms. Woven into the dodecahedron is an icosahedron. It represents the combined energies of human and divine creation in the 3rd dimension. The energy flow in the Stellated Earth Grid helps transcend duality and creates a sense of unity. It allows the sending and receiving of energy and information, grounding the energy so you can easily integrate it.

The dodecahedron represents unconditional love. Unconditional love by itself is the sweetest blissful experience. It is a necessary step toward realizing Christ Consciousness. However, that blissful unconditional love is missing an important element.

The element missing is conscious awareness or "mindfulness". I am not talking about being mentally focused. I am referring to mindfulness in the Zen Buddhist description. It is so easy to be melted in bliss and then become crippled and unable to be effective in the physical world. This is like assuming that you have arrived at your life's destination and spending the rest of your life alone pursuing a constant state of bliss. In a way, this is simply just an addiction to bliss.

Mindfulness-the practice of observing one's habits, patterns, and choices is essential to our evolution.
We must clearly see ourselves and our level of responsibility, integrity, and impeccability in order to evolve.
All of these elements are what strengthen our dodecahedron and turn it into a stellated dodecahedron-enabling it to stand on its own and retain its shape.
This is why the dodecahedron was not named the Unified consciousness grid . The openheartedness of the dodecahedron requires the internal support of a trinity of personal commitments: impeccability, self-responsibility, and integrity in order to transcend into the stellated dodecahedron or Unified grid. It takes the integrity and responsibility of honest self-observation and Zen Buddhist mindfulness to remain active and aware whether one is in the bliss state or in the struggle of 3D reality. The stellated dodecahedron is about adding conscious awareness, impeccability, self-responsibility, and integrity to the open heart to create Unified consciousness realization.

Without the commitment to the higher qualities stated above, unity becomes a transitory experience that is dependant upon a leader to get people there instead of the natural unfoldment of the process from the individual level. We have all frequently observed open-hearted people with the best of intentions fall prey to the agendas of other people or those of their own ego. If individuals do not commit themselves to impeccability in their behavior (which leads to a natural integrity), they fall prey to the ego agendas of themselves or others. Openheartedness without conscious mindfulness is an expression of dodeca consciousness. The stellated-dodeca is the consciousness of a self-realized being and that is why it is referred to as the Unified (Christ) Consciousness Grid.

http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/Fig_9.gif

http://tap3x.net/EMBTI/torus3a.gif

- remember how i mentioned that this "sun flower" like image is the torus from above, well we can now see how the energy (prana/ether) flows/spirals down through our crown chakra into the "black hole" the heart chakra then spirals down through the perinium root chakra.

And so back to the MERKABA....

The Mer-Ka-Ba field is extremely complex, involving the five Platonic solids and other sacred polyhedrons. It is believed to extend through all possible dimensional and parallel universes, and can possibly change its nature from electro-magnetic to whatever is appropriate.

The blueprint of the Mer-Ka-Ba is found throughout nature, such as a galaxy.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/phys/observatory/images/Astr112.Spring2005/Wright-SombreroGalaxy.jpg

One of the functions of the Mer-Ka-Ba, as mentioned, is to act as the vehicle to take the spirit and the body into the next world. However, this function — and most of the other possibilities — is impossible to obtain until something changes within the person. The Mer-Ka-Ba is situated around the human body like a three-dimensional geometric web that is dormant and nonfunctional, waiting for the right moment. When the spirit that inhabits the body remembers that it is there and begins to change certain aspects of itself, an incredible transformation begins to grow.

It was believed in ancient times, and even written about by the Hebrews, that the Merkavah could be turned on by certain principles in meditation. This involves breathing changes, and mind, heart, and body changes that alter the way a person perceives the Reality. This can be seen as the beginning of "enlightenment".

And yes, absolutely, the Mer-Ka-Ba is alive. It is a living field, not a purely mechanical field of energy. Because it is a living field, it responds to human thought and feeling, which is the way to connect to the field. So the ''computer'' that guides the Mer-Ka-Ba is the human mind and heart. The possibilities are endless.

At a certain and specific moment (not necessarily in this lifetime), a person's Mer-Ka-Ba field can become alive. When this happens, an electro-magnetic change occurs which results in a disc of energy that comes out from a tiny place near the base of the spine and quickly expands to about 27 to 30 feet in radius around the body. This disc can easily be perceived by scientific means, and if the United States Airforce is correct it can be put up on their computer screens via satellite. In other words, the military can see people who activate their Mer-Ka-Bas, and watch as they move around the surface of the Earth.

Since the number of people who have done this is now in the millions, it is a fairly common sight now. It is the enormous magnetic burst that results from the disc expanding that brings attention to itself. This can easily be made invisible by people who activate their Mer-ka-Bas, if they so desire.

The knowledge of the Mer-Ka-Ba is well known by most of the more powerful governments of the world. I am certain that our government used the Mer-Ka-Ba in the 1943 Philadelphia Experiment and the 1983 Montoc Experiments — in their mind-control experiments and dimensional explorations, and in controlling weather. And I am equally certain that Russia is using the Mer-Ka-Ba in their spy programs and defense systems.

But regardless of government experimentation, Mother Earth, the human race, and we as individuals can profit from this understanding and knowledge. The remembering of the Mer-Ka-Ba is unfolding all over the world. From my point of view, this unfoldment is all part of the evolving cosmic DNA. The Mer-Ka-Ba will be remembered now because this is the time to remember.

These coming years (the 2012 enigma) are crucial to our enlightenment not just mentally but literally in the physical sense. The Merkaba light field is what all of us will soon experience when this shift begins and the governments know this is what is happening and there are now (more than ever) starting to pull out all the stops to try to keep us from remembering what we truly are. Unified consciousness Beings formed by "light".
The Mer-Ka-Ba is a doorway or a dimensional window (that Haramein speaks of) into a higher level of consciousness that could be the catalyst for this great change we are abut to witness also known as "ascension".


The Torus is a fractal

Im going to say that the Torus is a very realistic "model" that is only a small piece to an even larger "model" that shows us not only the universe contracting and expanding at the same time but ,close to if not exactly, how all is inter/outerconnected as one and that soon as the universe follows its "program" will eventually return to singularity as the fractal that it is.


I hope what ive posted here helps, as this all i can recollect for now tho once I get my books/notes back, as I promised, I will continue with this subject and more.

*wee note - please click on alot of these images to get a better picture *

it is indeed a massive coincidence if not huge significance. as everything in this "reality" is of one of 3 sequences/codes - the Phi ratio (fibionacci), the golden mean (similar to the fibonacci) and binery sequence. in this dimension it is all a seperate holographic expression of its self, Oneness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWxbec6uBO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg5us8isW7M

we are all part of the "unified field grid" which connects us all and shapes our perception of the 3rd dimension through the frequencies that are transmitted and recieved to our brain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAAYhk7-TPs

as Da Vinci understood, our body is based on geometric patterns. these patterns in turn relate perfectly to nature. Da vinci along with many others (drunvalo melchizedek in particular) understand that we have a "field" around or body that is known as the MERKABA which is (as with everything) connected to the unified field.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/crownandanchorme/MerkabaDaVinciMystery.jpg
- keep in mind *19.5 degrees* as this is important

http://dream4wisdom.com/images/female_merkiba.jpg

http://dream4wisdom.com/images/male_merkiba.jpg

this field is an electro-magnetic field (which every living thing has, including celestial bodies (planets/stars)) that rotates so fast that we can not see it as it is part of the "light body" the same as the CHAKRA system.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/200000/images/_202398_freemasons_logo150.jpg

something interesting about these star tetrahedral fields which richard hoagland announced in his nasa mars cydonia seminar was that planets have this MERKABA also (once again we are all holographic sequences of the same ONE field from mircoscopic to macroscopic).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmrMXWfv2Ek

http://www.akasha.de/~aton/image043.png

this tetrahedral shape when looked in 2D form looks like a hexagram (star of david) . the 6 points of the hexagram are the poles (north and south) and for other points that are at *19.5 degrees*. now when we place this star tetrahedron inside a specific planet we get some interesting locations.

For example the large vortex/spot that is on jupiter is at *19.5 degree*
- http://www.gearthblog.com/images/images2006/jupiter.jpg

saturns white spot is at *19.5 degrees*
- http://www.akasha.de/~aton/SaturnTetrahedron2.jpg

Neptunes great "dark spot" is at ...... you guessed it *19.5 degrees*
- http://www.arcadiastreet.com/cgvistas/images/neptune_gds_600.jpg

mars' Mt Olympus ad also the "city" of cydonia (home to the face on mars) is at ...... ah yes of course..... *19.5 degrees*
- http://www.dprins.demon.nl/convergence/images/Image27.jpeg

the majority of the suns solar flare activity is the points at *19.5 degrees*
- http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c156/rlowe1980/solar-flare-6110.jpg

heres a little homework to do, check whats on earth at *19.5 degrees* you will be pleasently surprised...

BUT WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN BASIL??????

this star tetrahedron (MERKABA) is part of the more complex Metatrons cube which is the "geometric atomic structure" of everything.

- http://www.geocities.com/jussaymoe/map_cube/metatrons_cube.jpg

inside the metatrons cube you can fit all geometric physical forms possible which is based on all the elements - EARTH , FIRE , WIND , WATER , HEART (PRANA)

- http://www.timstouse.com/images/FOL/PlatonicSolids.jpg

so what does that mean? that when you place the manifestation of earth,fire,air,water and prana you get "sphere"/the planet

Prana is the energy/life force you breath when your CHAKRAS are awoken once activated your MERKABA "light field". this inturn is connected to the unified feild which is connected to everything including the universe

- http://www.iamuniversity.ch/IMG/jpg/22chakras.jpg

- http://www.ephraimbrown.com/spiritual%20Images/Alex%20grey%20chakras.jpg

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9WndBBdq4M

you "breath" PRANA through the ROOT and CROWN CHAKRAS which in the physical body is the PERINIUM (between the anus and the genitals) to the PINEAL GLAND (situated inside the brain). the pineal gland was once roughly the size of a golf ball and was the key to understanding/seeing "reality" as the unified field it is, however over millenia the human race gradually forgot about this knowledge/abiity and as we gradually damaged our brain the pineal began to shrink in size to its now current size which is roughly the size of a pea. Amazingly if you observe a newborn baby you will see their pineal and perinium pulsate in time with each other as the baby is still naturally breathing prana its not until their mind has been conditioned to "see" as we "see" that they forget this beautiful/incredible ability.

back to the metatrons cube and the unified field. if we go further in understanding the 4th dimensional (metatrons) cube we come to the "flower of life" . The Flower of Life symbol is considered to be sacred among many cultures around the world, both ancient and modern. Within this symbol can be found all the building blocks of the universe that we call the Platonic Solids. The symbol can be used as a metaphor to illustrate the connectedness of all life and spirit within the universe.

http://www.webpageexperience.com/102/e-FlowerOfLife.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNqbNJmox88

this also gives us the image we know as the "tree of life" used specifically in Kabbalah

http://www.treeoflifefoundation.com/images/Tree-of-Life_Flower-of-Life_Stage.jpg

With the Flower of Life, the Platonic Solids are studied as they relate to the human body and the nature of consciousness leading one to not only an intellectual understanding of the universe, but an experiential awareness of "God" and a feeling of connection to All That Is.

http://www.vortexmaps.com/images/sphere.gif

The Platonic Solids are important because they are found in the rudimentary construction of organic life, as well as music, language, and consciousness itself. these building blocks of life called the Platonic Solids serve as templates through which the foundation of all life everywhere can be expressed. Once this is understood, the importance of the Flower of Life becomes apparent as a totally integrated expression of "God" or "All That Is."

The Flower of Life is a universal template with many lenses. When placed over the face of a common or ordinary circle or sphere, the Flower of Life maps a window into the unity of infinity and turns the ordinary into the realisation of ONENESS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td_rBOxtLEo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFqBppy4Cc&feature=related

Looking into the window of the Flower of Life challenges us to unify our mind, heart, and spirit. When we can truly see all life woven so intimately, we strengthen the embrace of the divine in our lives and we can transform our world through the vision of universal unity.

where can we see these geometric patterns in nature and the human races contructions?

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/IMAGES/earth_grid1.jpg

http://www.vortexmaps.com/images/mega.gif

well amazingly (and this should be brought up more) every megalithic site/ancient ruin/pyramid etc is perfectly aligned tothis grid which forms all around the world. this in my opinion is proof that there was once an incredibly intelligent race that once existed on earth.

certain sites in the world themselves are based on the fibonacci spiral which further shows the intelligence of the "primitive" cultures/ancient civilisations.
for example the pyramids of Giza are all in line to the spiral and specifically line up to the sphinx.

http://www.geocities.com/jyce3/pyramidsgiza2.gif

Stone Henge has incredible geometric patterns in its design, it wasnt just a "calendar" -

http://www.celticnz.co.nz/octafive.html

alot of these sites in my opinion are VORTEXES and PORTALS which can act as gateways to the higher dimensions.

everything that is "man-made" was once of thought ("higher" Dimension) and has been "brought" into this dimension through us "creating" it. the only true substance is that of nature.

so what does it all mean, well everything is specifically designed which apparently includes the human body, which I see as a vessel that was designed by these Ari-An beings in order to lock our "higher selves" into this dimension inorder for us to experiance polarity and become seperate rather than being the unified beings that we are. this seperation is then supported by the mind conciousness systems coded into the body through the DNA(which is programmed by the magnetic fields frm the stars/planets at the time of ones birth) and is manifested through the transmitter/reciever that is the brain, all emotions (anger,jealousy,hate,conditional love) are just chemical (energy) reactions telling us what to "feel" and what is "real" or "not real".

jesta_g
13-12-2008, 03:57 AM
were did you learn this though swerdlow?

lol nope not swerdlow's work, in fact ive ony recently come across his work and i do find it very interesting, and im sure there are many other writers ive yet to come across that I would love to hear/read about :).

The information i have gathered comes from many seperate books/sources/documents/documentaries/seminars/people + friends (in the field of science etc), good ol' hard research & investigation, simple common sense and through journals and historical writings/ myths + legends/ religions/ cultural studies and alot more. In the end I have gathered together enough information to form a strong/big enough picture in order to come to my own conclusions/theories based on the evidence/info i have seen.

I am very open to new theories and even , if provided enough evidence, completely re-thinking my so far cnclusions. I am forever moulding and shaping my understanding, which I only see as a good healthy approach to the big bad subject as a whole. I try to remain as un-bias as possible and accepting all angles/opinions though piecing together what stands as solid theory/math/evidence and practise.
something that to me comes across as common sense if one wishes to tackle such contraversial subjects.

lordzoma
13-12-2008, 08:35 AM
For more information on the reptilians, simply refer to my Orion / Sirian language of the stars thread.

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42058

darketernal
13-12-2008, 08:59 AM
They lay eggs. Next...

boots
13-12-2008, 09:08 AM
they lay eggs. Next...


roflmao.

jesta_g
13-12-2008, 11:49 AM
They lay eggs. Next...



they do? please go on...

this is why I love having holes in my understanding, cause its one of these subjects that i just enjoy researching and it gives me more to look into/read coz I clearly didnt give it as much thought as what it deserves.

Sorry Humito for disregarding your queries on the egg subject :o

Now Dark eternal,
Do all the species "reptilian" races lay eggs or is it only a specific race?

how do you know that they lay eggs?

I can see how this fits in with them being asexual, however it is clashing with much of the biological info i have on specific beings and doesnt go down well with my contacts and friends who for many years have studied advanced cell biology/genetics/cryptology etc, which is always good coz i like sending them back to the drawing boards should sufficient evidence be produced.

when you say egg, do you mean that similar to a literal bird/lizard egg?
or a caccoon?
or an artificial womb?

similar to this photo -

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j309/drizzten/blog/matrix_battery.jpg

which i know is happening within many of the infamous underground bases/facilities across the planet that are particularly involved with the Grey race who are genetically "reptilian" themselves.

so as I mentioned, which specific race of "reptilians" lays eggs?

Im very interested in what evidence/support/sources and info you have to give on this,
I know there is alot more to share on this subject than simply They lay eggs. Next... ...

cheers - G

darketernal
13-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Jesta_g it is my understanding that they lay eggs. I've not seen the eggs first hand in my past that I remember at least. I'm not including the grey's among the reptilians because they are a synthetic beings who do not possess an inate ability to reproduce.

I would never have been trusted around eggs, due to my own nature and background. I was always too dangerous and unstable, especially after my symbiosis with a pureblood failed.

There is only one base species of reptilians, unless we count the ancient one's they worship as reptilians also, but they are often confused by those who try to study this area on the outside. The indiginous, extraterrestrial and extradimensional reptilians that have been observed are the same species. They originated here, but have gained over millions of years the psychic and technological abilities to set up bases of operations, and colonize other worlds and dimensions.

The egg thing is not something I have any evidence for. The question was asked, and it was my understanding from my own past, that they layed eggs. I do not have a biological explination, becuase I was never given this information, but it doesn't seem far fetched to me that a species of reptiles would lay eggs.

rhydra
13-12-2008, 08:24 PM
It just struck me. The Christian festival of Easter includes eggs, so does Buddhism which is naga orientated. Maybe that's a bit of a pointer for those who study religious clues.

abrilliantone
20-12-2008, 05:46 PM
So how do 'reptilians' reproduce ?? they must have sex but what about babies??...........I would assume like other reptiles they would lay eggs?? where are these kept?:eek:


The Reptiles reproduce just like we do. They have live babies, they do not lay eggs. Even Zecharia Sitchin was gracious enough to share that fact with us. click here (http://www.sitchin.com/genetics.htm) for the info


Contrary to everyone assumptions, not all 'reptiles' lay eggs. Some do infact give birth to live young.




Most reptiles lay eggs. The act of laying eggs is called oviposition. Reptiles that lay eggs are called oviparous.

Some reptiles bear live young, and the term for this is viviparous. Technically, a female that lays eggs is said to be gravid when she is holding eggs inside of her.

A female that gives birth to live young may correctly be called pregnant.

Below is a list of some of the more common species of reptiles and the method of reproduction they employ.


Egg Layers

All turtles, All tortoises, All crocodilians, Some lizards, Iguanas, Water dragons, Geckos, Veiled chameleons, Panther chameleons, Monitors Snakes, All pythons, Kingsnakes, Milksnakes, Rat snakes, Corn snakes


Livebearers

Some lizards, Solomon Island skink, Blue-tongue skink, Shingle-backed skink, Some chameleons, Jackson's chameleon, Some snakes, All boas, All vipers, Garter snakes






http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/think004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

jesta_g
20-12-2008, 09:40 PM
good post brilliant tone,

this I knew however I didnt know what specific lizards gave birth rather than lay eggs.

Interestingly these reptile species -


Livebearers

Some lizards, Solomon Island skink, Blue-tongue skink, Shingle-backed skink, Some chameleons, Jackson's chameleon, Some snakes, All boas, All vipers, Garter snakes

are the species I associate with the "reptilian" humanoids and would be genetically closest to them. In particular Chameleons.

as I mentioned in a previous post I feel that there are more than one species of reptilian beings and also an Amphibious species that may get mistaken as one of the reptilian species.

darketernal
20-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Jesta I only know passing references to the aquatic species you speak of, with no direct knowledge. However if the legends are correct they do exist. I wish I had an answer for you on that.

father ted
21-12-2008, 01:47 PM
The question is, how do they reproduce since they are androgynous? I'm talking about the full-blooded variety.

jesta_g
21-12-2008, 02:17 PM
The question is, how do they reproduce since they are androgynous? I'm talking about the full-blooded variety.

this is where the asexual side comes in, and the very likely scenario that some if not all the "reptilian" species are Hermaphrodites and are capable of reproduction without intercourse. In many species, hermaphroditism is a common part of the life-cycle, enabling a form of sexual reproduction in which partners are not separated into distinct male and female types of individual. Hermaphroditism most commonly occurs in invertebrates, although it is also found in some fish, and to a lesser degree in other vertebrates.

if this is true then this also begs the presumption that there would be shit loads of them as they all would be getting pregnant and popping them out.
now we must take in the reports and encounters of these beings. Many, particularly across northern and central america state that these beings inhabit themselves underground. There is proof of underground sites that date back thousands of years which can live upto 80'000 or more inhabitants. It would seem that this is the case underground in Los Angeles. Huge tunnel systems have been found with reptilian imagery and much more.

This is looking to need a large post connecting all the dots we can towards a more solid conclusion that can be drawn.
None the less some great questions are being asked here :)