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[jayelowell]

What's Behind Internet Conspiracy Empires?


As Conspiracy Communities Grow, Mental Health Docs Are Left With Big Questions


By LAUREN COX
ABC News Medical Unit
Dec. 12, 2008
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A man standing on a street corner with a sign reading "the lizard people rule you all," or, "my neighbors are spying on me for the government" isn't likely to get many supporters.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/icke_081211_mn.jpg Of all the conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists, David Icke has built one of the largest followings for his ideas that a race of reptilian people secretly control the world.
(ABCNews Photo Illustration)

But give that man a Web site template, or let him produce some slick videos on YouTube and, lo and behold, he may have thousands of people across the world supporting him.
Such is the story of several extraordinarily popular conspiracy theorists and theories online today.
Take the victims of gang stalking -- a subculture of people who think their friends and neighbors are all secret government spies ready to turn them over to the authorities. The movement has recently spawned gang stalking support groups, forums and advice Web sites (http://gangstalkingworld.com/).
Or take the former journalist and BBC sports announcer, David Icke, for example.
Icke was laughed out of the public eye in the early '90s when he started wearing only turquoise and explaining that voices had sent him on an important mission to save the earth.
Decades later, Icke has written books, has fans in 47 countries and can gather a crowd of 2,500 people in a city simply by posting a date for a lecture on his Web site.


:D full article:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=6443988&page=1

[grannymoose]

excellent.
maybe this is why we've been getting more visits over the past few days, :)

[jesta_g]

weird, i was thinkin about this yesterday.

[and justice for all]

How is this ‘good news’?

I mean... let’s read, shall we?



...Whether or not conspiracy theories harm people who are susceptible to mental illness is a matter of debate among psychiatrists. [...]

others who treat schizophrenics and people with paranoia think there is a risk in circulating online conspiracies. [...]

According to MacDonald, most delusions begin with general, unexplained feelings of discontent that are caused by a problem with the brain. It's only when someone tries to search for an explanation for their feelings that a delusion forms. [...]

MacDonald said it can make it difficult to do talk therapy when delusional people feed their story from outside sources or find evidence with other conspiracy plots.

"You're sitting across from your therapist and they say, 'Well why would they do all of this?' And you've got the answers because you've studied online," he said.

So I see... an agenda is forming where psychiatrists might declare the belief in "conspiracy theories" as a mental illness... or, they’ll try to censor the net, talk radio, books, videos and so forth, in the name of protecting the mentally ill from reading/viewing/listening to material that ‘could’ potentially make their affliction worse.

[queenofleon]

How is this ‘good news’?

I mean... let’s read, shall we?



So I see... an agenda is forming where psychiatrists might declare the belief in "conspiracy theories" as a mental illness... or, they’ll try to censor the net, talk radio, books, videos and so forth, in the name of protecting the mentally ill from reading/viewing/listening to material that ‘could’ potentially make their affliction worse.

Yes this is extremely worrying actually. We would all be gonners. And what better way to wipe it all under the carpet?

I can just hear it now....." NWO? I read it in the paper that anyone who believes in conspiracy's is dilluded and mentally ill"

Sharing this info will become even harder than it is already.

[zero1]

In my perfect world, psychiatry is recognized for what it is - a pseudoscience.

That is, a FALSE science. The human psyche cannot ever be known in it entirety, yet they insist on pretending otherwise to the detriment of reality and the people participating in it.

As for the article, well...it's ABC News isn't it? They'll take the sunshine view of everything because the darkness is too scary and demanding.

[jayelowell]

How is this ‘good news’?.Who said it was good news? Just the fact that we have cracked into the mainstrain is what surprised me!
"they" can call me mentally ill all they want!

To them ie; us, Icke says, "Check it out. Check it out. Then [decide]: Do the facts stand up? Don't go into this psychological babble after you first dismiss the information by reflex action."

You say 'I'm crazy' I say 'SO???' tell me something I don't know ... -BIS

[and justice for all]

Yes this is extremely worrying actually. We would all be gonners. And what better way to wipe it all under the carpet?

I can just hear it now....." NWO? I read it in the paper that anyone who believes in conspiracy's is dilluded and mentally ill"

Sharing this info will become even harder than it is already.

You got it my friend. That’s obviously the ‘idea’.
It shows that they’re working like mad trying to find a way to counter attack the tidal wave of previously hidden information that now is reaching the masses, and is exposing them for what they really are.

[queenofleon]

You got it my friend. That’s obviously the ‘idea’.
It shows that they’re working like mad trying to find a way to counter attack the tidal wave of previously hidden information that now is reaching the masses, and is exposing them for what they really are.

indeed. I cant see a way of over coming that either, sheeple are too zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[and justice for all]

In my perfect world, psychiatry is recognized for what it is - a pseudoscience.

That is, a FALSE science. The human psyche cannot ever be known in it entirety, yet they insist on pretending otherwise to the detriment of reality and the people participating in it [...]

I know exactly what you mean... but you go and tell them that!

[ubiquitous]

....and so folks will arrive at this forum expecting to to be entertained, yet a good percentage will actually leave the site informed and awakened. It happened to me, its happened to you. Let their plans backfire. The seeds of truth will be planted.

[and justice for all]

"they" can call me mentally ill all they want!
You say 'I'm crazy' I say 'SO???' tell me something I don't know ... -BIS

I hear you, it doesn’t faze me neither if people call me crazy. Can’t care less.
Problem is that with these sickos... they probably wouldn’t want stop it there...

[whiterain]

haha great stuff from icke tho in that piece. obviously the people over at the financial times are complete psych cases too eh? i liked this
" "Most people with major mental illness don't believe in conspiracy theories,"
what you mean like the general public? i was far more of a mentalist before i came across this stuff, as the cognative dissonance of the mainstream view just effectively puts a block in your mind and fills you with confusion. blind belief in authority is the major illness the minds of the world are suffering from


"You're sitting across from your therapist and they say, 'Well why would they do all of this?' And you've got the answers because you've studied online,"

like actually having some answers is a bad thing. are we turning the shrinks into conspiracy theorists too just their weak little controlling minds cant handle it so rationalise it in other ways?

[whiterain]

I hear you, it doesn’t faze me neither if people call me crazy. Can’t care less.
Problem is that with these sickos... they probably wouldn’t want stop it there...

when took acid i was struggling to come to terms and believe what was happening to me. i thought i was going crazy. then i came through the other side and realised were all crazy and had one of the best laughs of my life

[whiterain]

indeed. I cant see a way of over coming that either, sheeple are too zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

and then when they come to places like this and see people writing things like that theyre gonna be far less likely to believe. it was the kind hearted, intelligent nature of posters on forums like this that stopped me from going crazy and woke me from a deep sleep

[queenofleon]

imagine....very nut house in the UK filled with conspiracy theorists.

Sounds like a summer camp :rolleyes:

........as long as they keep those electrodes away from me!!

[lightgiver]

I would not exactly call it good news,more like MSM propaganda,

The Internet has always been a forum for fringe ideas, but success like Icke's, and subcultures built on paranoid theories like gang stalkers, points to an understudied corner in psychiatry: Who are the people who believe such theories in the quiet of their homes, and what does such behavior mean for a person teetering on the edge of mental illness?

Mental illness my arse,it the elites and the MSM who are mentally ill,they never give up with their bullshit,it may work on the sheep,but not the awakened ones;) ABC tossers.

[false flag]

It's people who blindly accept what the MSM tell them that I consider to be the "mental" ones...not us guys.

[limelady]

I think we have THEM worried folks..... we're obviously making inroads!

The 'sheep' are biting back!

Well done......keep it up! :D

[free_soul]

How is this ‘good news’?

I mean... let’s read, shall we?



So I see... an agenda is forming where psychiatrists might declare the belief in "conspiracy theories" as a mental illness... or, they’ll try to censor the net, talk radio, books, videos and so forth, in the name of protecting the mentally ill from reading/viewing/listening to material that ‘could’ potentially make their affliction worse.

It is good news that more people are checking out the site and forums and the people who is open enough to see that there is hardly any talk of reptilians on here exept for the specific sub forum and that the information shared here holds alot of ground and most of the people predicting from the evidence shown are quite right an awful lot.

no publicity is bad publicity because at least people are looking.

[noobcybot]

Hilariously there are too many of us now for them to put us all into therapy.
They wouldant want to front the money anyways.
Either way its another pop psychology bullshit article.

[and justice for all]

...no publicity is bad publicity because at least people are looking.

“no publicity is bad publicity because at least people are looking“ might work for an MK puppet tart like madonna, bur for someone without the whole life support apparatus of the criminal cabal backing you up, it can and does destroy people.

Bad publicity often turns into premeditated character assassination. Ask Icke. The MSM have him filed under turquoise wearing ‘son of guad’. Will they ever drop that? Of course not. Did that stop him? No, in fact he said made him stronger and more resolute, but it certainly didn’t make his job easier.

Bad publicity is systematically used as a tool to destroy careers and reputations of people that might become a threat for the ‘ptb’ hegemony.

[lewi]

imagine....very nut house in the UK filled with conspiracy theorists.

Sounds like a summer camp :rolleyes:

........as long as they keep those electrodes away from me!!

Hell yeah i get to be with the most enlightened people on the planet sign me up ... i mean in hell join the back of the line on my avatar will all march in :D

:p

[steevo]

That "news" report is using the same tactics as the Daily Mail uses. They are trying to frighten people into not going down certain paths. The reason that they are doing that is because we are making real progress and they dont know what else to do at the moment. Dont fear this propaganda and continue doing what you feel is right. Dont be frightened of them or their words.

And the other good thing is that it creates more publicity for David Icke :)

[danster82]

The picture they have used is great... JFK and 911 was an inside job and they love to rant on about the lizard people and then associate it with solid fact questions people have against the government such as these two issues.

To all those who are worried and upset over this I have to say no disrespect but you have fallen prey to exactly what their intent was a fear based reaction recognize the fear and instead let it strengthen your resolve.

[armoured_amazon]

Yes this is extremely worrying actually. We would all be gonners. And what better way to wipe it all under the carpet?

I can just hear it now....." NWO? I read it in the paper that anyone who believes in conspiracy's is dilluded and mentally ill"

Sharing this info will become even harder than it is already.

Then we shall classify the belief in conspiracies as a religion. Under current law, a person has the right to practise his/her religion without persecution. Should that law change, they'll have more people to deal with than just us. :D

[jesta_g]

Then we shall classify the belief in conspiracies as a religion. Under current law, a person has the right to practise his/her religion without persecution. Should that law change, they'll have more people to deal with than just us. :D

wham bam and thank you ma'am.

very good point indeed. I will result to stating that should it ever come to it. Lmao if idiots can put there religion as bloody jedi then "conspiracy theorism" it is for me. Tho until that day comes I will continue to reply to the question "what religion are you?" with "im a me :D".

[largejack]

How is this ‘good news’?

I mean... let’s read, shall we?



So I see... an agenda is forming where psychiatrists might declare the belief in "conspiracy theories" as a mental illness... or, they’ll try to censor the net, talk radio, books, videos and so forth, in the name of protecting the mentally ill from reading/viewing/listening to material that ‘could’ potentially make their affliction worse.

There must be a lot of paranoid schizophrenic people out there then :rolleyes:

[largejack]

indeed. I cant see a way of over coming that either, sheeple are too zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

When their jobs, X factors, and way of life has gone then they'll wake up, you'll see.

[armoured_amazon]

wham bam and thank you ma'am.

very good point indeed. I will result to stating that should it ever come to it. Lmao if idiots can put there religion as bloody jedi then "conspiracy theorism" it is for me. Tho until that day comes I will continue to reply to the question "what religion are you?" with "im a me :D".

'I'm a me' hehehe :D

[steevo]

When their jobs, X factors, and way of life has gone then they'll wake up, you'll see.

They will.

But we have to plant seeds, so that the deception doesnt continue with a slightly different storyline.

[free_soul]

When their jobs, X factors, and way of life has gone then they'll wake up, you'll see.

Yes the bang of a prison door is enough to wake anyone up but isnt that ummmm what the phrase?

To late

[ownoiz]

Originally Posted by As Conspiracy Communities Grow, Mental Health Docs Are Left With Big Questions - abcNEWS - Mind & Mood News

...Whether or not conspiracy theories harm people who are susceptible to mental illness is a matter of debate among psychiatrists. [...]

others who treat schizophrenics and people with paranoia think there is a risk in circulating online conspiracies. [...]

According to MacDonald, most delusions begin with general, unexplained feelings of discontent that are caused by a problem with the brain. It's only when someone tries to search for an explanation for their feelings that a delusion forms. [...]

MacDonald said it can make it difficult to do talk therapy when delusional people feed their story from outside sources or find evidence with other conspiracy plots.

"You're sitting across from your therapist and they say, 'Well why would they do all of this?' And you've got the answers because you've studied online," he said.


Its the shrinks who are delusional. A large part of Davids work includes informing people of the illuminati. If they say the NWO/ILLUMINATI does not exist then they can answer this: HUMANS HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO CONQUER EACHOTHER FOR CENTURIES. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU LIVED IN THE PAST AND WERE ABOUT TO GET ENSLAVED BY A ROMAN SOLDIER AS THE ROMAN EMPIRE SPREAD TO YOUR TOWN, DOES THAT MAKE YOU DELUSIONAL FOR THINKING 'THE ROMANS COMING TO GET ME' . NO! YOUR FEARS WOULD BE WARRANTED.

HAVE HUMANS ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME 'GOOD PEOPLE' WHO WOULDNT HARM THEIR FELLOW HUMAN.

WERE THERE WMD IN IRAQ.

DID A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON AND MAKE THAT LIL HOLE.

AND IF THESE FOOLS THINK THEY KNOW WHAT ELSE EXISTS OUTSIDE THEIR REALMS OF PERCEPTION THEN THEY ARE SIMPLETONS.

IF THEY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEIR TEXTBOOKS TELL THEM THEN THEY ARE SIMPLETONS OR HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF DENIAL THEMSELVES.

To Quote Socrates:

"True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us."

Now lets look at THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION of the phrase 'conspiracy theory'

n. A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

NOTE THE WORD 'Theory' .

Now lets look at the dictionary definition of 'THEORY'

n. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

Now take the country where i live, Australia. Ill give you an example IN BUT ONE area where the powers of the illuminati ARE HERE and WE ARE OWNED.

We have a situation where many of our so called 'Australian' companies top shareholders are the likes of Barclays and JP Morgan Chase, including our banks. These are Rockefeller and Rothschild companies. Go look it up, you dont have to believe me, look for yourselves headshrinkers.

THESE ARE FACTS! Not assumptions based on conjecture, therefore BY DEFINITION A REALITY NOT A THEORY, NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

Suck on that thought for a while headshrinkers...
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http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6318/whosyourdaddybn6.jpg

[jojo]

....and so folks will arrive at this forum expecting to to be entertained, yet a good percentage will actually leave the site informed and awakened. It happened to me, its happened to you. Let their plans backfire. The seeds of truth will be planted.

well said! bravo

[resistance]

The thing is though, most people on this site don't even talk or believe in the reptilian agenda..i don't believe in the reptilian thing i just believe in good and evil..anyway most people that start looking in to this NWO conspiracy start out on Alex jones who never talks of ridiculous reptilian theories, thankfully. Thats not to take anything away from Ickey mind, i think he's spot on with many things.

[jojo]

The thing is though, most people on this site don't even talk or believe in the reptilian agenda..i don't believe in the reptilian thing i just believe in good and evil..anyway most people that start looking in to this NWO conspiracy start out on Alex jones who never talks of ridiculous reptilian theories, thankfully.

yeh, but many on here do

[lewi]

The whole news site is designed to make people think anyone who thinks David Icke is right is infact insane and has a mental issue. David Icke opens the mind to a universe filled with infinite possibilities he says "seek and you shall find" as the mainstream news is designed to repeat and programe the masses which it does with perfection.

The first page of the news cast was aimed to shock, Davids ideas do not make people join gang stalking subcultures of society infact David promotes love and understanding and how we should respect everyone and everything as we are all from the same loving Oneness known as "God" in many cultures.

The idea of reptilians rulling over us is not a new theme ether it has been around since man was created upon the earth hence the serpent "talked" Eve into eating the apple and David Icke has just fitted the jigsaw together and allowed people to make there own minds up, which is something the news and other channels would never do unless they where ordered to by the powers that be.

Now everyone sees the agenda and the war on the people they see how the world is being driven into a one world dictatorship where they do not take no for an answer and now the people seek answers into what is behind biometric society the microchip the mark of the beast first installed into beasts for testing.

Not much information about any of this on the news channels so people search the internet to find out what the hell is going on and upon learning the truth they join a forum to add there voice to the already concerned masses only then to be labeled insane by people who are the ones holding back the flow of important hidden information.

http://humangoods.net/2008/10/09/the-shadow-of-globalization-slavery-smuggling-and-sex/

Nobody should be afraid of freedom ! Nobody ! we should shout as loud as we can because if we allow them to silence us we might aswell all be dead.

[steevo]

The scientologists say that psychiatry is evil bullshit.

[resistance]

yeh, but many on here do

Well let them, Reptilian or not what does it change? besides i think some people are more dangerous than lizards! at least a big lizard would look scary and thus i could avoid it, but humans can betray with a smile.

[jesta_g]

The scientologists say that psychiatry is evil bullshit.

well at least they got one thing right :rolleyes:

lol their whole preliminary questionaire is a massive piece of psychiatric propaganda. They be doing the ol' double speak trick me thinks when saying "psychiatry is evil bullshit".
Feck I dislike them cwa~zy scientologists.

[ownoiz]

The scientologists say that psychiatry is evil bullshit.

Q. Whats the difference between lying on a couch and jumping on a couch?

A. Nothing. Either way people will call you insane.

[lewi]

The scientologists say that psychiatry is evil bullshit.

Thats ok for them tho its a religion now ;)

[jojo]

Well let them, Reptilian or not what does it change? besides i think some people are more dangerous than lizards! at least a big lizard would look scary and thus i could avoid it, but humans can betray with a smile.

yes, this is the reptillian part of the brain.

[steevo]

Why is Scientology opposed to psychiatry?
What the Church opposes are brutal, inhumane psychiatric treatments. It does so for three principal reasons: 1) procedures such as electro-shock, drugs and lobotomy injure, maim and destroy people in the guise of help; 2) psychiatry is not a science and has no proven methods to justify the billions of dollars of government funds that are poured into it; and 3) psychiatric theories that man is a mere animal have been used to rationalize, for example, the wholesale slaughter of human beings in World Wars I and II.

Full article here (http://faq.scientology.org/psychtry.htm)

[lewi]

Heres a song that reminds me of David Icke !
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JCZfJ5ai07U

[jesta_g]

yes, this is the reptillian part of the brain.

.... WE ARE the (remaining) "reptilians", it is written in our DNA as it is shown throughout history....

http://www.bibleorigins.net/SerpentLordNingishzida.jpg

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http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/AdamAndEve.jpg

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http://www.cabiz.net/heartlink/tree_o4.jpg

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http://www.ch.cam.ac.uk/magnus/molecules/nucleic/dna1.jpg

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http://genome.gsc.riken.go.jp/hgmis/graphics/slides/images/caduseussm.jpg

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http://www.crystalinks.com/chakrascaduseus.jpg

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http://www.crystalinks.com/chakrawheels.jpg

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http://shalincraft.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/seven_chakras.jpg




really think about it now........

.............

Oh there is alot more to add to this, I can assure you, as it is across the planet throughout history spoken of the "serpent" in the "tree of life" tho as Ive mentioned on a few other posts tonight im a wee bit knackered to go into this in more depth....
so instead I decided to let these images speak for themselves.

"tree of life" = DNA , "Serpent" = Reptilian bloodline in our DNA, which has gradually "filtered" through history right up to today. This is why the elite bloodlines wish to inbreed or remain as "pure" blooded as possible when reproducing. They wish to keep as close as possible to the ancient full blooded "reptilian" race as possible while remaining human in order to stay manifested in this "dimension", the "reptilian" were/are not of this 3rd dimnesional frequency.

No matter how much people say I dont believe or accept the "reptilian" subject there is something very important to do with it, this is for certain. From ancient cultures around the world who say the same "creation" stories of reptilian "gods" right upto thousands of young children today (that IMO I trust) who say they have been raped/attacked and seen other children (including babies and animals) killed before them by reptilian beings im gonna have to conclude for now that like it or not there is something to this reptilian subject that must be exposed.
what I have shown in those images is one of many things that link with the subject.

we are the descendants of a reptilian race that once existed (possibly/likely still does) and their DNA/biology not only remains in us physically (the reptilian brain) but genetically.



sorry that I went off the subject of the thread, please continue :-)

[dancing_with_durga]

If we go by Gandhi's maxim:

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."

then this can be seen as part of the second phase. It's when phase three starts that the shit hits the fan...

[endlessvista]

that article is a scream and they wonder why mainstream "news" media is dying on its feet and being a journalist these days is like being an old timey tradesman who has become obsolete.

[endlessvista]

The thing is though, most people on this site don't even talk or believe in the reptilian agenda..i don't believe in the reptilian thing i just believe in good and evil..


Me neither the whole reptillian thing is non-issue for me. Like you it comes down to good and evil end of story.

Unlike the people who write these news stories I am actually having a look, doing my own research and coming to my own conclusions about what's arse and what isn't. The main thing I have discovered is a lot of what I used to beleive truly is arse because the world is run by evil people even though most people on this planet are good.

[dancing_with_durga]

Me neither the whole reptillian thing is non-issue for me. Like you it comes down to good and evil end of story.

Unlike the people who write these news stories I am actually having a look, doing my own research and coming to my own conclusions about what's arse and what isn't. The main thing I have discovered is a lot of what I used to beleive truly is arse because the world is run by evil people even though most people on this planet are good.

+1

[grenadene]

We'd only be 'nutters' if it wasn't true and there's no accounting for ignorance :)

[quetzalcoatl]

Originally Posted by As Conspiracy Communities Grow, Mental Health Docs Are Left With Big Questions - abcNEWS - Mind & Mood News

...Whether or not conspiracy theories harm people who are susceptible to mental illness is a matter of debate among psychiatrists. [...]

others who treat schizophrenics and people with paranoia think there is a risk in circulating online conspiracies. [...]

According to MacDonald, most delusions begin with general, unexplained feelings of discontent that are caused by a problem with the brain. It's only when someone tries to search for an explanation for their feelings that a delusion forms. [...]

MacDonald said it can make it difficult to do talk therapy when delusional people feed their story from outside sources or find evidence with other conspiracy plots.

"You're sitting across from your therapist and they say, 'Well why would they do all of this?' And you've got the answers because you've studied online," he said.


So beggeths the question.. is this more agenda? are they trying to bunk theories expressed here into the 'schizoid basket'? - & is that what they want you to think? :rolleyes: When quite possibly - nay, if not probably - they have absolutely no clue at all. You tell me which is more 'dangerous'?..

Any publicity can only, over-all be a good thing.. Like putty in our hands? Muahahhahaha! :D

Serious now - no doubt there are people out there whom aren't well equipped to handle the truth.. & there will be massive adverse effects to these 'malfunctioning' bio-chemical units.. Yet it's not the truth that is the problem.. It's the coping mechanism of the individual - Take a few outrageous over-exaggerations here & there, coupled with over-powering senses of self-preservation for the body.. Add a gigantean plot of epic proportions of other-worldly forces manipulating mankind with 'property rights' or partial ownership for purposes of 'enslavement' &/or 'sustenance' & you got yourself a breeding ground for paranoia & loathing.. Almost like a waste-gate for truth.. The more you fear the less you understand..

It is kinda ALL in-fact, pretty bad - yet, only if you let it.. ;)

End of the day; there's just no way they can ever sensor truth. :D

[therealknockoff]

The Lizard People Rule You All!

[steppewar]

The mainstream news can no longer ignore him. Of course, they have tried to do a hatchet job on him.

The basic message of this seems to be that if you believe in "Conspiracy Theories", then you are mentally ill.

I noticed they published this article in their Medical section.

The PTB really are getting desperate now.

Here it is ...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=6443988&page=1

[i_am]

There is already a thread about this in Today's News, Stepp

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45465&page=3

[steppewar]

There is already a thread about this in Today's News, Stepp

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45465&page=3

Aw, bollocks. Missed it as usual. I was actually born 3 weeks late, and have been ever since!

[alfrmo]

This is really interesting! I especially like the comment on page 2 that states "most people that are seriously mentally ill don't believe conspiracy theories!". So were allright on that one!. What it does show is the very real worry of the PTB. They are really getting desperate, and they know it. Having failed to destroy and discredit David, they are now turning their fire onto anyone influenced by his ideas, and will attempt to belittle and discredit us. What must scare them is the fact that David's ideas are influencing many different sorts of people, they are the ones getting scared! it's good news!:)

[alternative_answer]

I have worked in psychiatry for 12 years and people who know me think I am the sanest person they know. I have seen patients with a diagnosed mental illness and the most basic theme across nearly all patients is that they are being watched, followed, and "they" are out to get them. They don't know who "they" are but boy does it make them so frightened and ill, their whole life is a conspiracy theory, every waking moment, and you cannot convince them otherwise, they have no logic, no rational thinking can shift them from their mindset. So now we are all being labelled crack pots, fantastic, they did this to David back in his early days, now they are going for the people that read his information, good ploy! This is a scare tactic, if you mention Icke you be labeled mentaly ill, better shup up then. Don't think so!!

[steevo]

If we go by Gandhi's maxim:

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."

then this can be seen as part of the second phase. It's when phase three starts that the shit hits the fan...

That's right, as soon as they openly start fighting us, then they have lost the moral high ground and it will be all there for the public to see, and it will be all over for them.

[Anders Lindman]

The basic message of this seems to be that if you believe in "Conspiracy Theories", then you are mentally ill.


Those who really are mentally ill are the people who plan and carry out false flag attacks. I suspect that the leaders in mainstream media are aware of the manipulation going on but they can't do anything because they and their families will be killed if they tried to expose the truth.

[steppewar]

Does anyone think that in the next 1 to 3 years the reptilians masks are LITERALLY going to fall off their face for EVERYONE to see?

I do.

[Anders Lindman]

Does anyone think that in the next 1 to 3 years the reptilians masks are LITERALLY going to fall off their face for EVERYONE to see?

I do.

I doubt that blood-drinking reptiles rule the world. What can't be denied is that mainstream media seem to try to get the message out about the manipulation. Remember how in a mainstream television interview they told us how an anti-terror exercise was going on EXACTLY at the time of the 7/7 London bombings at the EXACT locations where the bombs exploded. What are the odds for that being a coincidence?

[Anders Lindman]

Remember how in a mainstream television interview they told us how an anti-terror exercise was going on EXACTLY at the time of the 7/7 London bombings at the EXACT locations where the bombs exploded. What are the odds for that being a coincidence?

Check out this short video clip:

Peter Power 7/7 Terror Rehearsal - YouTube

[jesta_g]

Does anyone think that in the next 1 to 3 years the reptilians masks are LITERALLY going to fall off their face for EVERYONE to see?

I do.

not in that sense no, tho if they do exist on this planet then they will likely be exposed in the coming years due to the shift/increase in electromagnetic spectrum's resonance that governs the seperation of frequencies and gives us sight.

This i feel is why the PTB wish to keep us in fear etc as fear is a dense frequency wish contributes to this 3rd dimensional "physical reality"....

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/images/biggestsecretbook70.jpg
-here you can see the cell activation difference between fear (top) and love (bottom).

Experiments have shown that when you place a piece of DNA, the body’s genetic blueprint, in a tube of electrons, the electrons form themselves together in the pattern of the DNA. When you remove the DNA, the electrons still hold the same pattern. In other words, the DNA is constantly affecting the energy around us. Our state of being affects the world second by second. When you change your attitudes and state of being you change the whole because you are part of the whole, indeed you are the whole.

Still feeling ordinary and powerless? We have within us a series of micro-antenna called amino acids which interact with the DNA and, there are 64 potential human genetic codes or antenna to transmit and receive frequencies. In short, a potential 64 antenna to connect us with higher frequencies and higher dimensions of ourselves. However, only 20 are activated while 44 remain ‘switched off’ and referred to as "junk" DNA.

This means that our ability to connect with our full power, wisdom and potential is massively undermined. No doubt the fact that we use only a fraction of our brain’s potential is a consequence of this also. Research by the Institute of HeartMath and others in the United States has further shown that these ‘antenna’ on the DNA are activated or closed down by the wavelengths of emotion which constantly pass through the DNA. The emotion of fear (from which all negative emotion derives) is a long, slow wavelength and so can only trigger a few of our potential antennas .

But love (from which all positive emotion derives) is a fast, short wavelength and so sparks into action far more of these antennas . Thus when we are under the spell of fear we delink ourselves from our true connection to infinity and live our lives within a small droplet of consciousness, the egg shell. When we express the emotion of love we reconnect with our multidimensional self and our potential becomes infinite because we become infinite. We reconnect with the ocean, with ‘God ’.


There is another way of putting this. Our consciousness is a series of interconnecting energy fields.


The current "shift" in electro-magnetic energy not only on this planet but throughout the solar system/galaxy and cosmos will see the drastic increase in our "spectrum" of site which will allow us to express and experience new colours/forms/frequencies and much more which will also result in allowing to interact with "higher" dimensional beings for example the reptilians.

http://eosweb.larc.nasa.gov/EDDOCS/images/Erb/wavelength_figure.jpg

the human eye can only see 0.005% of the universe, 0.005%!!
There is 99.995% out there that we can not see and or interact with. we are basically blind. This "shift" will see the increase of our visibility.

And even then that 0.005% that we can "physically" see is formed by atoms that are 99.9999999999999......% nothing! so not even what we can see is "real".


now take that in when thinkin what does and does not exist in this cra~zy universe ;)

[Anders Lindman]

Here is another clip that shows that mainstream media didn't hide this information. Rather the opposite. They also mention IRA in the clip. Alex Jones said that many of the top leaders in the IRA were from British Intelligence! :eek:

London bombing Exercise goes live - YouTube

[Anders Lindman]

:D full article:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=6443988&page=1

"The movement has recently spawned gang stalking support groups, forums and advice Web sites."

Gang stalking support groups? :confused:

"Who are the people who believe such theories in the quiet of their homes, and what does such behavior mean for a person teetering on the edge of mental illness?"

Well I can tell you that. One recent example is Hamid Gul, the former chief of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) who has worked with the CIA and now says that the 911 attack likely was an inside job. Does this mean that he is teetering on the edge of mental illness too?

http://freespeech.vo.llnwd.net/o25/pub/pp/images/december2008/101208top.jpg

"Former Pakistani ISI chief Hamid Gul appeared on the Alex Jones Show yesterday and shared his contention that the 9/11 attack was an inside job, laying out details that were censored during a CNN interview on the same subject last weekend."

Full story: http://www.prisonplanet.com/ex-isi-chief-gul-exposes-911-inside-job.html

[seercirra]

How is this ‘good news’?

I mean... let’s read, shall we?



So I see... an agenda is forming where psychiatrists might declare the belief in "conspiracy theories" as a mental illness... or, they’ll try to censor the net, talk radio, books, videos and so forth, in the name of protecting the mentally ill from reading/viewing/listening to material that ‘could’ potentially make their affliction worse.

aye aye, thats the aim

[sade]

Hey Jesta!
Thanks for posting all of that information on our DNA. :)
This is the blog it comes from: (Watch the video!)
http://moreblogger007.blogspot.com/2008/03/matrix-as-explained-with-science.html

I wish more people understood how important it is for us to stay calm.
Fear mongering, preparing for doom and etc is not gonna help any of us! EVER.

[haukipesukone]

In my perfect world, psychiatry is recognized for what it is - a pseudoscience.

That is, a FALSE science. The human psyche cannot ever be known in it entirety, yet they insist on pretending otherwise to the detriment of reality and the people participating in it.


Indeed. What bothers me most about it (when I consider the possibility of getting psychiatric "help") is that it's (usually) based on 3D materialist beliefs. I couldn't begin to explain what trouble's me to someone who thinks in such 20th century way.


I think the article is good news. So such thing as bad publicity, eh.


And my computer was fixed!! Yay! Now I can start ignoring life again.

[jesta_g]

Hey Jesta!
Thanks for posting all of that information on our DNA. :)
This is the blog it comes from: (Watch the video!)
http://moreblogger007.blogspot.com/2008/03/matrix-as-explained-with-science.html

I wish more people understood how important it is for us to stay calm.
Fear mongering, preparing for doom and etc is not gonna help any of us! EVER.

no worries, cheers for posting the link up :) slipped my mind when adding extra info to it.

The vid on the page is very interesting also. Further confirmation to what has been said/brought to awareness in many threads.

[epsom]

Have a look at the comment's to the original article ( 90+ I think).

The vast majority knowing conspiracies exist and giving execellent examples....I wonder if they were expecting that!

Makes the writer look somewhat of a fool...still, she has a job at ABC 'News'.

[lewi]

Have a look at the comment's to the original article ( 90+ I think).

The vast majority knowing conspiracies exist and giving execellent examples....I wonder if they were expecting that!

Makes the writer look somewhat of a fool...still, she has a job at ABC 'News'.
Nice job she has trying to say we all belong in a mental asylum because we think someone other than the Elite is right.

ABC may aswell lock us all up and throw away the key for we have been judged !

[epsom]

Put an extra e in excellent in last post.

Like to get it right!!;)

[adreamtosome]

And David Icke still wins in the end!! :D

[Anders Lindman]

Have a look at the comment's to the original article ( 90+ I think).

The vast majority knowing conspiracies exist and giving execellent examples....I wonder if they were expecting that!

Makes the writer look somewhat of a fool...still, she has a job at ABC 'News'.

I missed that when I read the article. Interesting that so many of the readers who have commented are aware of conspiracies.

I tried to post the following comment: "Half of the U.S. economy is related to military defense. To keep their economy going they needed something like a new Pearl Harbor which could be used as an excuse for starting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As the economy gets further into problems they need more wars, like with Iran, Pakistan or other potential candidates."

But you need to be a member on that site to post comments (as usual).

[haukipesukone]

And David Icke still wins in the end!! :D

If Cthulhu and Icke both ran for presidency, who'd win?

If Cthulhu and Icke had an arm wrestling match, who'd win?

If Cthulhu and Icke had a battle in Super Smash Bros Brawl, who'd win?

[jayelowell]

For all those new comers...
follow me on a journey!

[abaddon]

Ridicule all they want; we're getting exposure, we're voicing our God-given mofo'n opinions, and IMO, Reptilians makes all the rest of Ickes material swallowable, just what the public ordered/needed. I always thought Technical Innovation was the way towards Public Awakening, but w/e.

The amount of online 'conspiricy bashing' recently leads me to believe that alternative media is not targetted, but rather the intended audience (ie you and me ) is pre-emptively being targetted as NWO terrorists.

If Rense.com is number 1 Disinfo site on Dpt of Def rankings, then DI must be #1 meeting spot of 21st Century-NWO-thought-terrorism-animalthings. and such.

*is dragged away in straightjacket to be locked up with Lauren Cox*



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[abrilliantone]

So anyone who belives in "Conspiry Theories" are "Mentally Unstable." http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/confused009.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

And here I was thinking that there was these groups of people. Known as "The Illuminati" who are bent on "World Domination" and "Enslaving The Whole Of The Human Race."
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/whacky084.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)


Here I was "Beliving" that, when all along it turns out that. I'm just suffering from a "Mental Break-Down." http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/scared002.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)



http://www.msunderestimated.com/StraightJacket.jpg





http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/think004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[le chuck]

We should get more people joining on here because of the coverage.

Im proud to be just 1 member amonst 1000's in here, and to call myself a fellow mwmber of DAVID ICKE FORUM .COM

[lewi]

We should get more people joining on here because of the coverage.

Im proud to be just 1 member amonst 1000's in here, and to call myself a fellow mwmber of DAVID ICKE FORUM .COM

Yeah thats great an all but tell that to the nice nurse as she tightens the straight jacket and locks the door of your padded cell.... ;)

I may get ! Sponsored By ABC ! printed on the back of my jacket ...:p

[illuminatiman]

The thing is though, most people on this site don't even talk or believe in the reptilian agenda..i don't believe in the reptilian thing i just believe in good and evil..anyway most people that start looking in to this NWO conspiracy start out on Alex jones who never talks of ridiculous reptilian theories, thankfully. Thats not to take anything away from Ickey mind, i think he's spot on with many things.

Icke lays it out for you to play it out! :) for its irrelevent wether reptilians rule the world or a hand full of bankers, the point is we are being taken for saps and the evidence supports that!!! its the majority who think it all happens by accident! The xfactor is all they care about, this show is the ultimate opium for the masses! That is why these people can do what they do! No one i paying attention!:)

[deany]

it was great to read through all the comments left on ABC about that story.

I think I only read one that seemed to be supporting the article!

me think's it may have slightly back fired on them this story.....keep up the good work ABC, I emailed them to encourage more stories of the same ilk.

[mynameis]

It just shows the lengths establishment media will go to get truth censored in any form by any means. It means we are winning no matter how much mud they sling, the stuff still doesn't stick to our forum nor our way of life. We are high-minded organized and rival ATS in terms of ferreting out things that others wouldn't dream of tackling. It's our expertise as a group that make this form. Individually we are stunted, but as a group we are a mental giant.