the festival spirit
05-06-2007, 01:35 AM
In a word
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The following quote can be found in this thread, > Here < (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=1912255#post1912255)
Warning, I used to frequent a pagan website, not many years ago!
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited...
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them--particularly verbs, they're the proudest--adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs--however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means ?"
"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. "I meant by "impenetrability' that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you meant to do next, as I suppose you don't intend to stop here all the rest of your life."
"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."
"Oh!" said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
"Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night," Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side: "for to get their wages, you know."
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If I am about to have a 'deep' conversation with someone, I would try to define certain words beforehand, I will say what the word means in my experience and ask the other person if that fits into their definition of the particular word, if they agree, all is fine, if they want to add to my definition and we both agree that is fine, if we don't agree I will try to help them see that my definition as discussed previously is what I mean when I say the word, not what they think I mean when they hear the word and translate it to their own definition. I am always happy to accept their definition of the word if it is true and does not oppose what I mean when I say the word. If it does oppose what I mean, and it's true I would probably point out that that is not what I mean when I say the word
An example using the word....... Understand.
If I was to say "I understand war", I mean that I am aware of war, I accept that war exists and I believe war exists, I understand war, I can visualise war, but I personally choose not make war real, thats down to others.
I understand that some people will want to make war for lots of different reasons, some will want to make war for fear of their lives, some will make war to better their lives, whether it's right or wrong, some will make war because they can, some will make war because their cause is just, in their minds, some will make war because they are greedy, war can be physical and mental, war can be survival, war can be awful, war can be dirty, war can be horrific and gory, war can be beautiful, (metaphorically)
I understand war, I don't agree with it or take part in it. I understand the man who wages war in self defence, I understand the man who wages war for greed, etc,
I feel that I am helpless when the earth and its occupants suffer from war, I understand war but I don't agree with it, if it was up to me the world would be without war. I understand why war is continuing when one person says I don't like that he commited an act of war against me so I will commit an act of war against him.
I understand how one word can mean so much more than just the word that is written or said, I understand that someone elses understanding of a particular word may be different than mine, if you read my signature, you may see how I understand things, I wonder if other peoples understanding of me and what I say will rest on whether they read this or not, I'm sure some people will not understand this, thats fine by me.
My path has been taking me by people who understand me a lot in the last 10 days or so, that has given me a new excitement and zest for life I have not felt before and I understand that my path will take me by people that don't understand me, I look forward to that more now than I ever have.
(sometimes I take so long writing stuff I forget why I started,)
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited,
One of the reasons I stayed here is because people use words I understand, I quickly realised that there are a lot of pagan words I haven't yet come across and my understanding of them is just beginning, any help on this subject would be most appreciated, it may take me a long time to understand all the words associated with these subjects and so I wish to ask for pointers to where I can learn the words and phrases that people here will understand without me having to write many words to say just one.
If you don't understand this, please think about it before you rip into me
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited...
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Mighty Oak trees, from tiny acorns, grow. Don't ya Know!
Aware, Accept, Believe, Understand,
Visualise, Realise.
You may want to throw a choice in there somewhere too.
With love, peace and Respect
Shaun
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Greetings Festival Spirit. I for one want to thank you, not rip you for your comments. You have unwittingly hit upon a great topic and something I am a stout beliver in.
The Power of Words.
Attention "teachers" both current and would be. There is great wisdom in these words and hints on how to have a better rapport with your student(s) and make lessons progress better.
Simplifying your lessons vocabulary can make a lesson easier for them and stop a lot of frustration. To use the last sentance as an example I can save breath and make that line infinately easier to digest if I said "Dumbing down the lesson makes it go quicker." Its not pretty and doesn't make you look any more "important" but if you are just trying to look good or impress them you are wasting both parties time!
From the start I have always tried to tailor my responses to the question asked. "Simplicity fosters increased learning!". I can't say that enough.
Peace,
Twig
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The following quote can be found in this thread, > Here < (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=1912255#post1912255)
Warning, I used to frequent a pagan website, not many years ago!
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited...
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them--particularly verbs, they're the proudest--adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs--however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means ?"
"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. "I meant by "impenetrability' that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you meant to do next, as I suppose you don't intend to stop here all the rest of your life."
"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."
"Oh!" said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
"Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night," Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side: "for to get their wages, you know."
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If I am about to have a 'deep' conversation with someone, I would try to define certain words beforehand, I will say what the word means in my experience and ask the other person if that fits into their definition of the particular word, if they agree, all is fine, if they want to add to my definition and we both agree that is fine, if we don't agree I will try to help them see that my definition as discussed previously is what I mean when I say the word, not what they think I mean when they hear the word and translate it to their own definition. I am always happy to accept their definition of the word if it is true and does not oppose what I mean when I say the word. If it does oppose what I mean, and it's true I would probably point out that that is not what I mean when I say the word
An example using the word....... Understand.
If I was to say "I understand war", I mean that I am aware of war, I accept that war exists and I believe war exists, I understand war, I can visualise war, but I personally choose not make war real, thats down to others.
I understand that some people will want to make war for lots of different reasons, some will want to make war for fear of their lives, some will make war to better their lives, whether it's right or wrong, some will make war because they can, some will make war because their cause is just, in their minds, some will make war because they are greedy, war can be physical and mental, war can be survival, war can be awful, war can be dirty, war can be horrific and gory, war can be beautiful, (metaphorically)
I understand war, I don't agree with it or take part in it. I understand the man who wages war in self defence, I understand the man who wages war for greed, etc,
I feel that I am helpless when the earth and its occupants suffer from war, I understand war but I don't agree with it, if it was up to me the world would be without war. I understand why war is continuing when one person says I don't like that he commited an act of war against me so I will commit an act of war against him.
I understand how one word can mean so much more than just the word that is written or said, I understand that someone elses understanding of a particular word may be different than mine, if you read my signature, you may see how I understand things, I wonder if other peoples understanding of me and what I say will rest on whether they read this or not, I'm sure some people will not understand this, thats fine by me.
My path has been taking me by people who understand me a lot in the last 10 days or so, that has given me a new excitement and zest for life I have not felt before and I understand that my path will take me by people that don't understand me, I look forward to that more now than I ever have.
(sometimes I take so long writing stuff I forget why I started,)
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited,
One of the reasons I stayed here is because people use words I understand, I quickly realised that there are a lot of pagan words I haven't yet come across and my understanding of them is just beginning, any help on this subject would be most appreciated, it may take me a long time to understand all the words associated with these subjects and so I wish to ask for pointers to where I can learn the words and phrases that people here will understand without me having to write many words to say just one.
If you don't understand this, please think about it before you rip into me
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited...
__________________________________________________ _____
Mighty Oak trees, from tiny acorns, grow. Don't ya Know!
Aware, Accept, Believe, Understand,
Visualise, Realise.
You may want to throw a choice in there somewhere too.
With love, peace and Respect
Shaun
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greetings Festival Spirit. I for one want to thank you, not rip you for your comments. You have unwittingly hit upon a great topic and something I am a stout beliver in.
The Power of Words.
Attention "teachers" both current and would be. There is great wisdom in these words and hints on how to have a better rapport with your student(s) and make lessons progress better.
Simplifying your lessons vocabulary can make a lesson easier for them and stop a lot of frustration. To use the last sentance as an example I can save breath and make that line infinately easier to digest if I said "Dumbing down the lesson makes it go quicker." Its not pretty and doesn't make you look any more "important" but if you are just trying to look good or impress them you are wasting both parties time!
From the start I have always tried to tailor my responses to the question asked. "Simplicity fosters increased learning!". I can't say that enough.
Peace,
Twig