UK police say no to draconian powers

[turquoisefyre]

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/020607draconian.htm

oh really...

"Under Section 44 of the Terrorism Act, Police can already stop and search anyone without having to demonstrated ‘reasonable grounds," but under the proposed new regulations a police officer can ask that individual who they are or where they are going, and withholding such information is an offense punishable with a £5,000 fine."



any comments..?

[auron]

If you see any police walking down the street, just avoid them like the plauge and go another way.

If you do get stopped, Be very friendly with them. Never argue with them or give them shit. You will be on your way without any hassle.

It is not worth arguing with them. Most of them are robots, and common sense and reasoning just dosent resonate with these people.

[turquoisefyre]

If you see any police walking down the street, just avoid them like the plauge and go another way.

If you do get stopped, Be very friendly with them. Never argue with them or give them shit. You will be on your way without any hassle.

It is not worth arguing with them. Most of them are robots, and common sense and reasoning just dosent resonate with these people.

i don't know.

i agree with don't be argumnetive, but when any copper comes close to me in a car or PCSO strolls by, i pull a face like they have sh1t smeared on their uniform.

they must know that you do not appreciate them getting dictorial in any fashion.

your right Auron, don't be a twat to them, but folks, if they are going to think you'll be smiley with them all the time, they'll just walk all over you. end of.

[auron]

i don't know.

i agree with don't be argumnetive, but when any copper comes close to me in a car or PCSO strolls by, i pull a face like they have sh1t smeared on their uniform.

they must know that you do not appreciate them getting dictorial in any fashion.

your right Auron, don't be a twat to them, but folks, if they are going to think you'll be smiley with them all the time, they'll just walk all over you. end of.

Yeah man, I know what you mean there. If you come across one that seems ok, then maybe try and drop them a few hints on how they are working for fascists.

It's the really HARD nosed bastards I'm on about that revel in the fact that they have "power" over you. There is just no getting through to these people. Their souls left the body from a young age.

When they ask you "Where are you going?" You could say something like:

"I'm on a way to a conference, where we will be discussing ways on how to rid the world of evil fascists, and police officers worldwide.":D

I'd pay money to see the looks on their face after that!

[peter19]

just deck them if they stop you :D. ask for a look in there pockets. the police in general now i think they sort of feel that people dont really respect what they do that much anymore and feel that it should be them with there heads low. others though because they have a uniform feel supirior.
but if you could inform them then that would be even better. i think if these police laws get any worse what people should do is treat the people (if they wont listen, to what you have to say) as in the old days how they used to treat consciensus objectors, like people would cross the street and not look at them, that sort of thing. if mass did that they would sharp think to themselves why are people treating me diffrent.

[redhead]

Have a look at what Joe Public thinks about all this nonsense, there talking about it on the BBC's have your say website, its quite encouraging really, i mean im old enough to remember the sus laws of the 80's and the riots that followed. You can only prod a man with a stick for so long before he makes a grab for the stick

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6503&&edition=1&ttl=20070604095430

[lumukanda]

i remember years back in my town, the cops were on a crusade against dope smokers, it was really bad, we'd be raided on a monthly basis, you'd get a knock at the door at 6am and they'd be standing there with a search warrant.
they also used to stop us in the streets and search us (legal under apartheid laws, but not under new laws, but these cops didn't care), we, of course became wise to them and never carried anything with us, but one day we were stopped and searched and i just decided enough is enough and i said on what grounds are you searching us etc etc, they basically just searched us by force and then arrested us for 'obstructing' police business or something like that, of course they had no leg to stand on and we were released later that day with no charge, but the effect that it had was that i was on their list big time, i was pulled over numerous times, the usual stuff you can expect from them, so these days, fascists or not, i keep my head down, don't attract attention, and if i am caught in a road block, i'm friendly, and it helps, cops may act under fascist laws, but many are just regular people caught in a place they can't leave, some are assholes, but not all are.

[notaslave]

My dealings with these people are few and I try to keep it that way. I dont smile at them in the street nor look their way.

I had dealings with them in 1994 when my teenage daughter and we as a family (2 adults, 2 kids) were being harassed daily by an ex bf of hers. He had turned up on my doorstep refusing to leave and obviously drunk, when the police arrived they told me if he wanted to he could press charges against me for kidnap. Never mind what he was doing to our lives - I simply held him in an arm lock until the polis arrived! So I told the polis their services would not be required again and if the little throwback did not leave us alone we would deal with it ourselves thankyou.

The only other time I have had dealings with them was to report a burglary and we weren't going to but the insurance company told us we need to supply a police report number - so they were used for admin purposes only. Which is about their sum worth.

[auron]

Have a look at what Joe Public thinks about all this nonsense, there talking about it on the BBC's have your say website, its quite encouraging really, i mean im old enough to remember the sus laws of the 80's and the riots that followed. You can only prod a man with a stick for so long before he makes a grab for the stick

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6503&&edition=1&ttl=20070604095430

I believe that the most of the "views" on the BBC website are all made up.

[midwich cuckoo]

I believe that the most of the "views" on the BBC website are all made up.

Yes I quite agree as it's strange that the amount of times I offered my views and they were never published. However I bet they were handed over to the 'relevant authorities'. ;)

[turquoisefyre]

i'd like to bring disclosure on my views of this thread by saying i hope that if there are any poilce or military reading this, and are really one of the ones who feel they have done good in the world by joining these institutions, and are thinking that i'm out of order with my view of sticking it up to you...

...please look towards the New World Order's plans for humanity and you will find the source of probably all the problems facing people today. these are the bankers, black magicians, politicains, freemasons, civil servants etc
that are jelly spined and cowardly following a very dark, destucive, evil plan for all of us!

do not be fooled. your "hidden masters" at the top does NOT want you around. i bring forth my view because i have had my own experince with "police-ing" (which i wont elaborate on), and i know that if people could really 'stick it up' to the police, the NWO would simply take away your presence, let chaos reing in order for people to beg being policed again, so using problem-reaction-solution to damn us all again.

it's a matter of keeping your witts and your personal power about you. we are all in this!

[redhead]

Quote:
Originally Posted by auron View Post
I believe that the most of the "views" on the BBC website are all made up.

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Originally Posted by midwich cuckoo

Yes I quite agree as it's strange that the amount of times I offered my views and they were never published. However I bet they were handed over to the 'relevant authorities'.

Ha-Ha.

I never thought of that...hmmmm i've never seen any of my responses on there either.

[auron]

I'm convinced that they are either all made up, or the people that write most of the garbage on there go out and vote.

And look like this:

http://www.badongo.com/t/250/707406.jpg

[whitenight639]

/\ /\ /\ Lmao

[truthsayer]

If you see any police walking down the street, just avoid them like the plauge and go another way.

If you do get stopped, Be very friendly with them. Never argue with them or give them shit. You will be on your way without any hassle.

It is not worth arguing with them. Most of them are robots, and common sense and reasoning just dosent resonate with these people.

I suupose then, I should be glad I live In Somerset as all our Police are generally in Bristol. We liken police to the Dodo, such a rare sighting they are. Prime location for a terrorist hideout here, no Police in sight (unless you include traffic Police since thats the only time you might spot one, blink and you'll miss them though)