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zsymon
17-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Have any of you sungazed in the colder regions? I reallly want to start, but I'm afraid to get cut off once it gets cold and there is snow on the ground. Not the most pleasant thing to do.

Snow does absolutely nothing to prevent sungazing, all natural undergrounds work just fine. :)

kingmob
17-09-2010, 09:21 PM
Snow does absolutely nothing to prevent sungazing, all natural undergrounds work just fine. :)

Just an idea of standing on cold ground or on the snow is kind of chilling though. Can you imagine being barefoot, with temperatures of 20 farenheit or -10/15 Celcius and sungazing for 10 min? That's what turning me of a little bit.

zsymon
17-09-2010, 09:36 PM
Yeah, that is true.

But wearing shoes won't take much away from the experience, surely the energy
is capable of going through rubber if it's too cold to be barefoot. I agree it is best
to be barefoot, but wearing shoes isn't all that bad.

sungazer
18-09-2010, 09:59 AM
Have any of you sungazed in the colder regions? I reallly want to start, but I'm afraid to get cut off once it gets cold and there is snow on the ground. Not the most pleasant thing to do.

Please don't stand barefooted on snow.Just use common sense.Be barefoted only when possible and when you feel comfortable.If ground is cold have your shoes on.
Don't worry about beeing in region wich have bad weather.Gaze the Sun according to Sri Hira's instructions and you will be fine.There are people from places like Russia,Canada or Nordic regions and they need few years to finish this practice but according to Sri Hira they still get the benefits.
So just gaze the Sun when possible,don't worry and love the Sun.You will be just fine!

P.S.
Most important thing in whole Sungazing practice is to receive Sunlight thru eyes.Barefoted standing/walking is not must but it is beneficial.

sungazer
18-09-2010, 10:15 AM
What are the benefits of sun glazing?

Also, is there really any issue in wearing sunglasses during the day?

Here is Sri Hira's lecture.You can hear from him about benefits.
I have throw away sunglasses as my eyes are used to gaze directly on Sun so bright daylight is not a problem.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlCJPxxKoaY

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfCU_VCvc9k&feature=related

biblegirl
18-09-2010, 03:45 PM
http://topgems.homestead.com/29-MOOK-C.jpg

Anyone heard of a stone called (some variation of) "mook" jasper from Australia? Looks generally like the above picture, and the metaphysical properties of this stone suggest that holding or wearing it cause the barrier at your feet (shoes, floors) to be overrided in a sense, and your connection with the energetic currents of the earth be restored. Plus it's pretty :p. It snows a lot over here and the whole barefoot sungazing concept has made me cringe a little, I think there are some things like maybe this type of stone that can help with the basic jist of being barefoot without actually going barefoot.

sungazer
18-09-2010, 05:23 PM
It snows a lot over here and the whole barefoot sungazing concept has made me cringe a little..

There is no need to complicate things.You could add those stones but at the end all that matters is Sun coming into your brain and pineal gland.Evrything else is just benefitial not crucial.
Sri Hira says that we should be barefoot only when possible

kingmob
20-09-2010, 08:04 PM
My first 2 days at sungazing failed. Clouds messed it up.

I walked out at exactly 1 hour before the sunset yesterday and caught the glimpse of the sun, but it was still so bright, that I decided to wait a bit more, and by then it was too late as the clouds killed it.

Does it happen often when the sun is way too bright to look at, even if its within the alloted period? Or are my eyes just not accustomed to it?

vladmir
21-09-2010, 03:42 AM
Does it happen often when the sun is way too bright to look at, even if its within the alloted period?
Yes. For me, my personal suggestion to the people who are beginning the process of sungazing, it has to be as close to the sunset (or sunrise) time as possible. This is important to remember.
1 hour before sunset to begin sungazing, i wouldn't advice it,
especially if you live in around the Earth's equator.
Plus, i have noticed that the Sun has generally increased in brightness since 08, but again, that may just be my opinion.

What do i do when it is cloudy in the East at sunrise?
It makes no difference to me.
I sit or stand and meditate in the direction of where the Sun is.
Sure, the light is not entering my eyes directly, but for me, sungazing is much more than a scientific practice.
Its......well, hard to put into words..

phemohilia
21-09-2010, 03:53 AM
9 months later are staring into the sun for 45 minutes straight. After this, you are done, and only need to walk barefoot in the sunlight for 45 minutes a day to survive. You will not need to eat food anymore, because the sun will give you your energy.



I stopped reading at the bold part. For obvious reasons.

sungazer
21-09-2010, 09:39 AM
Does it happen often when the sun is way too bright to look at, even if its within the alloted period? Or are my eyes just not accustomed to it?

I agree with Vladmir.Just use common sense.When i have started with sungazing i have usually gazed within of first/last 30-15min of Sun.
With time your eyes will get used to bright light and you won't have any problem.
Gazing Sun at any time should be pleasent experience,if your eyes are not confortable with strenght of light wait some time and try again.

vladmir
23-09-2010, 05:59 AM
Thanks Mods. :)

enoe
27-09-2010, 01:22 PM
Hello :)

This is my first post here. Been reading here for a long time though. a few years or 3 maybe. I started sungazing some time ago but I never got to the point where i did it every day, I just do it when ever i feel like it. 2-4 times a week or so. Atm I gaze about 10 min or so. And only just before the sun sets. I live in the mountains so i cant really use the mornings unless i climb a huge cliff every day hehe.
I am planing on doing that in the future though. I used to live in DK but i moved to spain now and I live in a nature park with natural caves and just wonderfull nature. I am actually going to move into a cave house build direcly in the one of the mountains :D
I moved down here to make medicin with cannabis for people with arthritis, scleroses and other stuff and here the climate is perfect for growing.

But back to sungazing.
Before i heard about sungazing i saw a man talk about living of light but in a diff way. His name is rolf dorset and he is danish. What he did was going about the not eating thing in a diff way. He stopped eating and drinking completly for 1 week then 1 week with just water in small amounts to flush out what ever was left of food remains in his system.

ITs not the exact way to do it that i just described but i am sure i can find it if anyone want me to. He write that after 3 days he got to the point that sailers stuck on sea with no water talk about. its like a turning point and he claims he could feel his body starting to not crave food and water anymore. The idea is that the body start to live of the energy that is all around us. Including the sun. but also etheric ( spelled right? ) energy.

Now I got really interested in this guy and what he claimed to have done. Like i said he is danish and his son is a well known stand up comedy guy. At no point did he strike me as mad or as attention seeking so i thought hmmm lets look into this. Thats how i found sungazing.
i think for me the ultimate goal is to not eat or drink because i have this idea that it would improve my ability to help people get healed. Dunno if its true or not offcourse.But i decited that the best way for me was to sungaze a year or so and then go thru the 1 week no food thing that dorset talked about.
I just find the whole thing interesting. If we are indeed able to live of light it would mean someone tricked us to start eating at some point. And beaing afraid to starve to death have made many people do stupid things. So for me not have to eat is to be free. I consider myself free and awake but still not eating would complete it i think :D

So basicly i just wanted to say hey and good thread. Oh yes BTW I am still not at the point where i do not eat. have anyone in here reached that point? .

Eno

energi
27-09-2010, 08:05 PM
Hello :)

This is my first post here. Been reading here for a long time though. a few years or 3 maybe. I started sungazing some time ago but I never got to the point where i did it every day, I just do it when ever i feel like it. 2-4 times a week or so. Atm I gaze about 10 min or so. And only just before the sun sets. I live in the mountains so i cant really use the mornings unless i climb a huge cliff every day hehe.
I am planing on doing that in the future though. I used to live in DK but i moved to spain now and I live in a nature park with natural caves and just wonderfull nature. I am actually going to move into a cave house build direcly in the one of the mountains :D
I moved down here to make medicin with cannabis for people with arthritis, scleroses and other stuff and here the climate is perfect for growing.

But back to sungazing.
Before i heard about sungazing i saw a man talk about living of light but in a diff way. His name is rolf dorset and he is danish. What he did was going about the not eating thing in a diff way. He stopped eating and drinking completly for 1 week then 1 week with just water in small amounts to flush out what ever was left of food remains in his system.

ITs not the exact way to do it that i just described but i am sure i can find it if anyone want me to. He write that after 3 days he got to the point that sailers stuck on sea with no water talk about. its like a turning point and he claims he could feel his body starting to not crave food and water anymore. The idea is that the body start to live of the energy that is all around us. Including the sun. but also etheric ( spelled right? ) energy.

Now I got really interested in this guy and what he claimed to have done. Like i said he is danish and his son is a well known stand up comedy guy. At no point did he strike me as mad or as attention seeking so i thought hmmm lets look into this. Thats how i found sungazing.
i think for me the ultimate goal is to not eat or drink because i have this idea that it would improve my ability to help people get healed. Dunno if its true or not offcourse.But i decited that the best way for me was to sungaze a year or so and then go thru the 1 week no food thing that dorset talked about.
I just find the whole thing interesting. If we are indeed able to live of light it would mean someone tricked us to start eating at some point. And beaing afraid to starve to death have made many people do stupid things. So for me not have to eat is to be free. I consider myself free and awake but still not eating would complete it i think :D

So basicly i just wanted to say hey and good thread. Oh yes BTW I am still not at the point where i do not eat. have anyone in here reached that point? .

Eno

Are you talking about Sebastian Dorset's dad? :eek: (I don't know danish - too muddy when spoken for me to understand anything :D - but I recognize the surname Dorst)

enoe
28-09-2010, 09:59 AM
Hey Energi-

Yes it is Sebastians dad. Rolf was on a danish tv program talking about it and Sebastian went with him. I think most people thought it was april fools or something. From what i remember he did not eat anything for about 3 months. But because eating is so natural to us we do not think about the social side to it. Most people who have started to live of light but then went back to eating, did it because they feel wierd sitting at the table at a party or what ever and not eating..

sungazer
29-09-2010, 06:03 AM
Many greetings from Kathmandu,Nepal to all sungazers.Just have arrived so still waiting for those spectacular vievs of Himalaya during sunrise/sunset
Namaste!

healingisfreedom
29-09-2010, 09:06 AM
Sungazing is an interesting topic. I am not ready to make a judgement for or against it.

Have any of you tried looking at the sun periodically through closed eyelids? I sometimes find that energising.

sungazer
30-09-2010, 01:20 PM
Sungazing is an interesting topic. I am not ready to make a judgement for or against it.

Have any of you tried looking at the sun periodically through closed eyelids? I sometimes find that energising.

Just try it.It is free and if done correctly you will have just benefits.
you can look the Sun through closed eyelids.That will make eye muscle stronger and will increase flow of blood in eye.
It is recommended for people which have eye disease to gaze the Sun through closed eyelids,10min every day for period of two months.After that they can start with regular Sungazing.
You could feel energized as pineal gland is photosensitive and it might react even to Sungazing through closed eyelids.
Namaste!

jikwan
01-10-2010, 12:07 AM
hi everyone
im on 220 seconds already despite it being the
rainy season here in thailand

i couldnt wait till the start of the cold season
and have to put up with clouds and haze

i have to wait until around 50-60 mins after
sunrise to get a clear sun
and if its the evening, 60 mins before sunset

im really enthusiastic and gonna go the full 45 mins.

looking through the posts seems like theres not
many of us-but the way its progressing....one day
we will rule the world!

sungazer
05-10-2010, 02:52 PM
Bumping tha thread!
Great weather here in Nepal.I am so grateful that i am here and that i have chance to finish with Sungazing here,much quicker than i would be able to do back home in Europe.May the Sun be with you all!
Namaste

vladmir
05-10-2010, 05:30 PM
The Surya Upanishad.
http://www.celextel.org/108upanishads/surya.html

Later this week, i will be going offline, probably for a month or two.
If any readers have any questions relating to sungazing,
there are a few sungazers on here who will be able to offer advice and share tips and suggestions. So don't hesitate to ask!

les_paul_robot
06-10-2010, 07:20 PM
The sun doesn't seem to get as red at sunset as it used to. Dunno if that's an atmosphere thing.
I was gazing today.
I take it that it's normal for it to take a few minutes to get over the brightness when you've finished?

vladmir
07-10-2010, 04:32 AM
I was gazing today.
I take it that it's normal for it to take a few minutes to get over the brightness when you've finished?
Here is what i have heard HRM suggest: Suppose you have increased 5 or 10 seconds each day, and let say you are at 2 minutes safe sungazing, (where eyes can blink and eyes are relaxed while looking at the Sun and not squinting), then after these 2 minutes, there is an afterimage of the Sun sometimes. It is very important to do the following steps:
Now close your eyes gently, and the afterimage of the Sun will be present.
When you 'look' at this afterimage, with both eyes closed,
it will center itself on the area called 3rd eye in esoteric occult literature.
Keep looking and lightly focusing on the Sun's image with eyes closed,
till the image slowly becomes faint and then vanishes.
This will take around 3 to 5 minutes (it could take more, but it is such a pleasant feeling because concentration on the 3rd eye happens naturally as you focus on the Sun's afterimage, that you wont mind the extra time.)
After the afterimage has disappeared fully,
only then gently open your eyes, and go about your business.
If you do this simple exercise after sungazing, you will ensure that your eyes will recover faster, till a time will come, slowly, that an afterimage wont be formed. Or if it is, it will go in a couple of minutes.

kingmob
07-10-2010, 06:52 AM
Here is what i have heard HRM suggest: Suppose you have increased 5 or 10 seconds each day, and let say you are at 2 minutes safe sungazing, (where eyes can blink and eyes are relaxed while looking at the Sun and not squinting), then after these 2 minutes, there is an afterimage of the Sun sometimes. It is very important to do the following steps:
Now close your eyes gently, and the afterimage of the Sun will be present.
When you 'look' at this afterimage, with both eyes closed,
it will center itself on the area called 3rd eye in esoteric occult literature.
Keep looking and lightly focusing on the Sun's image with eyes closed,
till the image slowly becomes faint and then vanishes.
This will take around 3 to 5 minutes (it could take more, but it is such a pleasant feeling because concentration on the 3rd eye happens naturally as you focus on the Sun's afterimage, that you wont mind the extra time.)
After the afterimage has disappeared fully,
only then gently open your eyes, and go about your business.
If you do this simple exercise after sungazing, you will ensure that your eyes will recover faster, till a time will come, slowly, that an afterimage wont be formed. Or if it is, it will go in a couple of minutes.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm coming up on 90sec(should be at like 5 min by now, but weather doesn't agree with me), and I knew that some people closed their eyes after sungazing, just didn't know why. Really excited to see this through if I can.

sungazer
08-10-2010, 09:58 AM
The Surya Upanishad.
http://www.celextel.org/108upanishads/surya.html

Later this week, i will be going offline, probably for a month or two.

All the best during your offline period!May the Sun bless you and illuminate your path!
Namaste

vladmir
08-10-2010, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I'm coming up on 90sec(should be at like 5 min by now, but weather doesn't agree with me), and I knew that some people closed their eyes after sungazing, just didn't know why.
You're welcome.
Take everything that comes your way and turn it into an advantage.
If the weather is such that its cloudy and you cant see the Sun,
take that time that you have allotted to your practice,
and put in in doing स्मरण (Remembrance) of the Sun, in your Heart.

**Note:
The following is my opinion, which is the way it is because of the country i am born in (India) and the संस्कार (cultural heritage and upbringing) that i have therein received.
Therefore it is by no means necessary in the scientific practice of sungazing. The methodology of sungazing is complete in itself, and has nothing to do with any particular nation, religion or culture, or even time-period,
but belongs to, in my opinion, humanity, or those humans who wish to receive it.


I like to think that my human heart and its bodily functioning
is co-related to how the Sun functions on a Solar level.
As the Sun sends his rays throughout the solar system,
my heart pumps blood through my arteries,
and as the veins bring back the blood to be rejuvenated and sent out again,
a similar process is talked about as happening with the Sun,
He uses his rays to send out heat and light, and also get feedback from His system, which as an Administer is one of His functions.
Just like in my heart my belief is that the Creator sits in His Anuchit (miniature) form,similarly it is my belief that in the Heart of the Sun,
the Creator himself sits as His Vibhuchit (Macro) form.
From here, you can talk about or visualize how all the Stars are non-locally connected in function and administration as a collective in the galaxy,
and are parts of what is termed the Grand Central Sun, in the center of the Milky Way, and so on can extend to the entire Universe as a unbroken web of life.

All the best during your offline period!May the Sun bless you and illuminate your path!
Namaste
Thank you for your well wishes, my brother.
नमस्ते. ("I honor the Spirit in you which is also in me.")

sungazer
18-10-2010, 05:25 AM
Bumping tha thread...Namaskar-from Varanasi,UP

iceblue
20-10-2010, 09:08 AM
I used to literally stare at the sun as a teenager, during summer, at midday! For minutes. If it was evening, I stared at lightbulbs. For some reason, I was strongly attracted to light, I had this impulse that made me stare at the sun, when it's most intense - summer, midday. I have 20/20 vision still, many years later! This impulse waned as years passed by.

Anyway, here is the gazing process, if anyone missed the link:

http://solarhealing.com/process/

Read it all, but the process itself is described under the title "Safe Sungazing Practice".

Enjoy!

jikwan
21-10-2010, 09:56 AM
hi ice
im intrigued about gazing at mid day
would you mind expanding on your experience?
did you do it gradually and let the eyes get
used to the strong glare or what?

iceblue
21-10-2010, 10:49 AM
hi ice
im intrigued about gazing at mid day
would you mind expanding on your experience?
did you do it gradually and let the eyes get
used to the strong glare or what?

Hi jikwan,

Be careful about this! Because this was an impulse. I was about 16 at the time, and didn't even think about what I was doing. I was just attracted to sun, and I used to gaze at it, with no plan at all. Even several times a day, during summer. For minutes. I never did it gradually, I just stared, eyes wide open. It felt good, I felt safe and nice. I used to do this for weeks! I was attracted to it, I didn't have any plan or timetable... My friends used to tease me about it :) I don't remember having any side-effects. Even the dark spot that you see when you move your sight away after staring for a while, I don't think it lasted long. I had no interferences at all in my vision. My sight is still well.

It was many years ago. Today, I cannot do this - I don't know exactly why, but I think because the sun is much stronger than it was, say, 15 or 20 years ago. Today, when I look at it, I turn my eyes immediately away, I can't stare at it even for seconds.

I don't know why. Just be careful not to hurt your sight!

sungazer
21-10-2010, 11:57 AM
hi ice
im intrigued about gazing at mid day
would you mind expanding on your experience?
did you do it gradually and let the eyes get
used to the strong glare or what?

Please do not play with your eyesight.If you want to look at the Sun follow Sri Hira's instructions.If you don't like Sri Hira's method you can read more about Sunyogi Umasankar-ji..
Sungazer,gazing the Sun in Varanasi,U.P.
Namaskar!

jikwan
21-10-2010, 01:28 PM
Hi jikwan,

Be careful about this! Because this was an impulse. I was about 16 at the time, and didn't even think about what I was doing. I was just attracted to sun, and I used to gaze at it, with no plan at all. Even several times a day, during summer. For minutes. I never did it gradually, I just stared, eyes wide open. It felt good, I felt safe and nice. I used to do this for weeks! I was attracted to it, I didn't have any plan or timetable... My friends used to tease me about it :) I don't remember having any side-effects. Even the dark spot that you see when you move your sight away after staring for a while, I don't think it lasted long. I had no interferences at all in my vision. My sight is still well.

It was many years ago. Today, I cannot do this - I don't know exactly why, but I think because the sun is much stronger than it was, say, 15 or 20 years ago. Today, when I look at it, I turn my eyes immediately away, I can't stare at it even for seconds.

I don't know why. Just be careful not to hurt your sight!

ice, yes, thankyou
im an enthusiast and taking this subject as seriously
as possible.
means i have to research very well before i make any moves
im stuck on 250 seconds due to monsoon weather
soon it will be over

you say the sun is much stronger now
compared to a couple of decades ago
thats the 1st time anyone has ever mentioned that
very important point. i think it explains very well
why you cant do it now
its the dininishing ozone layer. it must be
youre not from australia are you?
its especially bad over there-lot of
skin cancer etc
you mentioned the word cmfortable
this is the criterion im seeking
people can say all kinds of things about
sungazing and issue warnings (im sure, well intentioned)
just because HRM taught this and warned that
doesnt mean it applies to everyone
his teaching is directed to the masses
and ill use your case as an example
the general rules were ignored / unknown

ill try not to be stupid about it

i was already on 150 seconds, and one morning (after
wind and rain) the sun was so bright i could only
manage 20 seconds even though i could have pushed
through to 160

if the eyes are truly comfortable with it...why not?
im sure ill get blasted for that statement from
at least 50 people!

iceblue
21-10-2010, 01:41 PM
ice, yes, thankyou
you say the sun is much stronger now
compared to a couple of decades ago
thats the 1st time anyone has ever mentioned that
very important point. i think it explains very well
why you cant do it now
its the dininishing ozone layer.

if the eyes are truly comfortable with it...why not?
im sure ill get blasted for that statement from
at least 50 people!

I don't know if it's the ozone layer - my personal opinion is that the sun's activity has intensified greatly in the last two decades, that this happens normally in cycles, over great periods of time. But, be it ozone, sunspots, or whatever - one thing is certain for sure - it is very strong.

It doesn't matter if someone blasts you for your statements. What's important is that you go about this very carefully. Whatever happens, you are the sole person responsible. I would listen to my heart, which is always right, and proceed if it feels fine with my eyes. You can always stop if anything starts to feel wrong.

Whatever you decide, good luck!

jikwan
21-10-2010, 01:55 PM
I would listen to my heart, which is always right, and proceed if it feels fine with my eyes. You can always stop if anything starts to feel wrong.

exactly. thankyou

very well worded, in my opinion. good points

and for your encouragement to disregard
critics and naysayers
researching is not always 100% a heavenly experience

sungazer
08-11-2010, 06:41 AM
Greetings from Vasco,Goa..

koagula
15-11-2010, 09:44 PM
Look into sungazing. It is a lie that looking at the sun will make you go blind. I haven't seen anything on this site about it. You have to do it barefoot, right before sunrise or sunset. Start by looking at the sun for 10 seconds on the first day. Then, 20 seconds the second day, 30 the third, and so on until you eventually, 9 months later are staring into the sun for 45 minutes straight. After this, you are done, and only need to walk barefoot in the sunlight for 45 minutes a day to survive. You will not need to eat food anymore, because the sun will give you your energy. This will help with ascension into the 5th dimension. Research sungazing if you think this is BS. Just like they told us 9/11 was done by Osama, they told us not to stare into the sun, and please research more than this post before you start. Good luck with becoming your light body!

This is probably the biggest pile of crap I have ever read in my life. If this had any truth in it, whatsoever, all the people living in Ethiopia would not be dying of starvation and thirst; as Ethiopia is one of the most sun drenched places on the planet. And, don't even try to give me any of that fucking nonsense about them not knowing the correct method of sun gazing, as their bodies are underneath it soaking up its photons all god damn day...

Famine/Starving In Ethiopia/Oromia/Africa 2008 - YouTube

delamo1999
15-11-2010, 11:56 PM
I would listen to my heart, which is always right, and proceed if it feels fine with my eyes. You can always stop if anything starts to feel wrong.

exactly. thankyou

very well worded, in my opinion. good points

and for your encouragement to disregard
critics and naysayers
researching is not always 100% a heavenly experience


Well said. But I have to agree with many people here that we as a species spend way too less time outside. We tend to stay in doors in a "climate" controlled environment with florescent lights. Most buildings don't even let you open up the windows. It's no wonder that when we go outside we are blinded.

:):)

jikwan
16-11-2010, 12:29 AM
And, don't even try to give me any of that fucking nonsense about them not knowing the correct method of sun gazing,


i would be careful with statements like that

how do you know they know this or that method?

did you ask any of them?

is it in any ethiopian textbook?

simple, natural-living people can also be very stupid
and ignorant

biblegirl
16-11-2010, 03:31 AM
I'm reading the book "Heaven and Hell" by Emanuel Swedenborg, a man who says he had the opportunity to transcend all dimensions and then write detailed descriptions of each toward the end of his life. In this book he tells the significance of the sun, and the east.

He says that all power/energy/light comes from the Divine influx, which is situated in the "east" direction of "heaven". And since we in the 3D universe represent a model of that which is in heaven (as above, so below), our sun is situated in the direction of east upon rising. Looking to and worshipping toward the east by religions and cultures worldwide symbolically represents that heavenly worship by the higher beings, in the direction of the east for reason of the Divine influx emanating from there. Even though according to Swedenborg, things are much much brighter in the heavenly realms (to the extent that OUR sun looks like a thick darkness in comparison), the same light of the divine influx which permeates the heavens also seeps through into our material realm. It is visible to us as radiant belts of light/energy surrounding the sun. This influx is said to be the pure Love of the Divine reaching through our universe and even evident in our sun's appearance. Swedenborg further mentions that the beings in the heavens perpetually face the east, no matter which direction they travel. While that might not make much sense that you could travel in any direction yet still be facing east, we may compare it to our own laws of gravity, which dictate that no matter which direction we travel or turn, the undersides of our feet are always facing the ground. He explains that the "gravity" in heavenly realms (rather than pulling their feet to the ground), keeps the angels in a state of always facing east. This is because their source of life/creation/energy comes from that divine influx in the east, like our source of life/creation/energy comes from the sun.

I thought all this was very interesting, especially in relation to sungazing. Through sungazing, might we be effectively absorbing divine influx radiating from the sun as our source of life and vitality?

zsymon
16-11-2010, 04:30 AM
We are forgetting Moongazing here. :)

The Sun supplies us with Divine Masculine energy, while the Moon supplies us
with Divine Feminine energy.

koagula
16-11-2010, 01:13 PM
And, don't even try to give me any of that fucking nonsense about them not knowing the correct method of sun gazing,


i would be careful with statements like that

how do you know they know this or that method?

did you ask any of them?

is it in any ethiopian textbook?

simple, natural-living people can also be very stupid
and ignorant

I suggest you go and teach them sun-gazing then... I bet they will not thank you for it... IDIOT.

whiterain
16-11-2010, 02:26 PM
This is probably the biggest pile of crap I have ever read in my life. If this had any truth in it, whatsoever, all the people living in Ethiopia would not be dying of starvation and thirst; as Ethiopia is one of the most sun drenched places on the planet. And, don't even try to give me any of that fucking nonsense about them not knowing the correct method of sun gazing, as their bodies are underneath it soaking up its photons all god damn day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTMQ927I6U

yeah but the sun is not the only factor now is it

koagula
16-11-2010, 02:34 PM
yeah but the sun is not the only factor now is it

Yes, there's water needed aswell. However, if you believe that sun-gazing can give you all the nutrients and energy needed to sustain your life, then you're seriously mistaken...

Maniacs haha

delamo1999
16-11-2010, 03:00 PM
We are forgetting Moongazing here. :)

The Sun supplies us with Divine Masculine energy, while the Moon supplies us
with Divine Feminine energy.


I've done moongazing and have found it to be very peaceful. The light from the moon is very serene.

:):)

jikwan
16-11-2010, 03:50 PM
Yes, there's water needed aswell. However, if you believe that sun-gazing can give you all the nutrients and energy needed to sustain your life, then you're seriously mistaken...

Maniacs haha

koagula, listen man,
we are a peaceful kind of group
we follow this path of sungazing
why dont you leave us alone?
we practice and experiment
all of us sungazers want to try this thing
if its no good.....we abandon it
if no harm done...so what? we try something else

why the malice?

koagula
16-11-2010, 04:43 PM
koagula, listen man,
we are a peaceful kind of group
we follow this path of sungazing
why dont you leave us alone?
we practice and experiment
all of us sungazers want to try this thing
if its no good.....we abandon it
if no harm done...so what? we try something else

why the malice?

There is no malice. I'm just saying, if this was true, and, as the OP said, sun-gazing can sustain you so as you no longer need to eat, then why the hell are people in the world starving, i.e. Ethiopians...

Sorry, but I think you're insane if you believe that staring at the sun means that you will not have to eat...

biblegirl
16-11-2010, 05:06 PM
Man claims to have had no food or drink for 70 years
Indian military scientists are studying an 82-year-old who claims he has not had any food or drink for 70 years.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01625/food_1625954c.jpg
By Dean Nelson in New Delhi 11:02PM BST 28 Apr 2010
Prahlad Jani is being held in isolation in a hospital in Ahmedabad, Gurjarat, where he is being closely monitored by India's defence research organization, who believe he may have a genuine quality which could help save lives.
He has now spent six days without food or water under strict observation and doctors say his body has not yet shown any adverse effects from hunger or dehydration.
Mr Jani, who claims to have left home aged seven and lived as a wandering sadhu or holy man in Rajasthan, is regarded as a 'breatharian' who can live on a 'spiritual life-force' alone. He believes he is sustained by a goddess who pours an 'elixir' through a hole in his palate. His claims have been supported by an Indian doctor who specializes in studies of people who claim supernatural abilities, but he has also been dismissed by others as a "village fraud."

Being held hostage is more like it :(

Anyway thought this may be of interest to some people here. I have some opinions on going without food from my own experiences of a prolonged fast from food (40 days). I will post that later, but just a sneak preview, I fasted for 40 days and intuitively felt like I could go much longer in good health (6 months? a year?) and the only reason I stopped fasting was because all the books seemed to think this was dangerous. I do feel that I was getting my "fuel" from another source but more on that later. I plan to do another extended fast (possibly toward the end of this year) that will be months long, with sungazing incorporated ;).

koagula
16-11-2010, 06:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia#Prahlad_Jani_.28.22Mataji.22.29

Fraud.

This thread's Like retarded kids throwing ice cubes at the sun, it's rediculous and will do you no good.

whiterain
16-11-2010, 06:06 PM
Being held hostage is more like it :(

Anyway thought this may be of interest to some people here. I have some opinions on going without food from my own experiences of a prolonged fast from food (40 days). I will post that later, but just a sneak preview, I fasted for 40 days and intuitively felt like I could go much longer in good health (6 months? a year?) and the only reason I stopped fasting was because all the books seemed to think this was dangerous. I do feel that I was getting my "fuel" from another source but more on that later. I plan to do another extended fast (possibly toward the end of this year) that will be months long, with sungazing incorporated ;).

ive felt at times that if you can visualise strongly enough, you can trick your body into thinking it is being nourished. was it anything like that BG?

whiterain
16-11-2010, 06:08 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia#Prahlad_Jani_.28.22Mataji.22.29

Fraud.

This thread's Like retarded kids throwing ice cubes at the sun, it's rediculous and will do you no good.

somewhereelse.com

biblegirl
16-11-2010, 09:50 PM
ive felt at times that if you can visualise strongly enough, you can trick your body into thinking it is being nourished. was it anything like that BG?

I was just thinking about something kinda similar but opposite. Have you ever eaten a meal and then forgotten about it? Then as you look at the clock and think that the last time you had a meal was so long ago that your hunger pangs kick in? Then while you are eating something new, you suddenly remember, oh yeah, I had pizza two hours ago! Well, this happens to me sometimes haha. And I literally feel hunger when I calculate how long it's been since I last ate (even if I am mistaken and forgot about eating like I said above).

I think that sometimes hunger and the need for food can be psychological. When I was fasting I didn't think much of food, I just knew I wanted to go 40 days to see what happened. I never went underweight or felt like I was starving. I just...lived. Had a lot more time on my hands (since I wasn't cooking and eating), so I read more and made myself useful. I felt energized when I was outside especially. I wasn't looking at the sun specifically, but just felt energy all around me all the time, even when I was sleeping. I think this might have been my nourishment, ambient energies. Visualization is probably a great idea for that. I did not think to try it, but I just knew I was capable of fasting and that seemed to get me through. :)

whiterain
16-11-2010, 11:42 PM
cool cheers for the reply. yeah ive felt that ambient energy at times on psychdelics but its difficult to say whether it could actually be possible to use it properly

zsymon
17-11-2010, 01:20 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia#Prahlad_Jani_.28.22Mataji.22.29

Fraud.

This thread's Like retarded kids throwing ice cubes at the sun, it's rediculous and will do you no good.

None of the text in that wikipedia link proves that this man is a fraud.

biblegirl
17-11-2010, 06:49 AM
None of the text in that wikipedia link proves that this man is a fraud.

I noticed the same thing. It's a good link that seemed to me to further validate the story :).

screamingeagle
17-11-2010, 06:50 AM
This thread's Like retarded kids throwing ice cubes at the sun, it's rediculous and will do you no good.

Yes,eating at McDonalds and alike will do us much good.......:rolleyes:

screamingeagle
17-11-2010, 06:55 AM
I was just thinking about something kinda similar but opposite. Have you ever eaten a meal and then forgotten about it? Then as you look at the clock and think that the last time you had a meal was so long ago that your hunger pangs kick in? Then while you are eating something new, you suddenly remember, oh yeah, I had pizza two hours ago! Well, this happens to me sometimes haha. And I literally feel hunger when I calculate how long it's been since I last ate (even if I am mistaken and forgot about eating like I said above).

I think that sometimes hunger and the need for food can be psychological. When I was fasting I didn't think much of food, I just knew I wanted to go 40 days to see what happened. I never went underweight or felt like I was starving. I just...lived. Had a lot more time on my hands (since I wasn't cooking and eating), so I read more and made myself useful. I felt energized when I was outside especially. I wasn't looking at the sun specifically, but just felt energy all around me all the time, even when I was sleeping. I think this might have been my nourishment, ambient energies. Visualization is probably a great idea for that. I did not think to try it, but I just knew I was capable of fasting and that seemed to get me through. :)


Biblegirl do you do some training,workout and was it affected by you fasting
if you do

biblegirl
17-11-2010, 07:12 AM
Biblegirl do you do some training,workout and was it affected by you fasting
if you do

No I don't, but I would say I generally had more energy than usual during the fast :).

screamingeagle
17-11-2010, 07:18 AM
No I don't, but I would say I generally had more energy than usual during the fast :).

Thnx,don`t know about fasting, but i will certainly will try sungazeing....
just a little for the start,as soon as the clouds go away:D

kingmob
17-11-2010, 07:28 AM
I was just thinking about something kinda similar but opposite. Have you ever eaten a meal and then forgotten about it? Then as you look at the clock and think that the last time you had a meal was so long ago that your hunger pangs kick in? Then while you are eating something new, you suddenly remember, oh yeah, I had pizza two hours ago! Well, this happens to me sometimes haha. And I literally feel hunger when I calculate how long it's been since I last ate (even if I am mistaken and forgot about eating like I said above).

I think that sometimes hunger and the need for food can be psychological. When I was fasting I didn't think much of food, I just knew I wanted to go 40 days to see what happened. I never went underweight or felt like I was starving. I just...lived. Had a lot more time on my hands (since I wasn't cooking and eating), so I read more and made myself useful. I felt energized when I was outside especially. I wasn't looking at the sun specifically, but just felt energy all around me all the time, even when I was sleeping. I think this might have been my nourishment, ambient energies. Visualization is probably a great idea for that. I did not think to try it, but I just knew I was capable of fasting and that seemed to get me through. :)

biblegirl, how do you fast for 40 days without falling over 1 day? do you eat at all? do you run really low on energy? how much does your stomach hurt right after you stop fasting and start eating again?

The prospect of going on a fast for that long sounds amazing, and I have read of people having incredible results with it, but I am just afraid that it will wreck my life if I try something like that. I am commited at the moment to sungazing, but its going to take a while to complete the process. Looking forward very much to my continued progress, as I am only on 4min and 30 sec right now.

enoe
17-11-2010, 10:48 AM
Hello everyone.
I found some text about Rolf Dorset. Bible girls story kind of made me want to look for it so here it is.
I had to do a google translation so its not perfect but i changed some of it to make more sence.:)



The author and journalist Rolf Dorset starved himself to challenge the science. April 17 is the book of the experiment
"Around 10 I finished my last meal and at midnight began the experiment. The program of the first seven days was: neither eat nor drink. Not a crumb, not a drop".

Blue Book. Rolf Dorset, born 1938, graduated. MA in Danish and Christian Studies in 1967. Thereafter, culture editor at Aalborg Stifstidende, the 1983 cultural editor and later managing editor at Fyens Herald. Has directed Viking Game in Frederikssund and in 1995-96 had included the plays "The Hidden War" and "Give me your heart" at the Odense Theater.

Released in 2004 the book "Paradise Child" on Hans Christian Andersen as a prince.

Received Publicist Award in 1993. Now lives in Davinde at Odense.

This is the covertext by author and journalist Rolf Dorset's book "Living light".

It is published 17th April - with the tagline "A challenge to the materialist worldview".

The challenge is good enough. Rolf Dorset, now 70, picked it up.

Twice in 2007 he lived in, respectively, 86 days later and 52 days without taking food.

- I would challenge the science and test whether it was possible to sustain life without eating. Because if it was, broke it with all our ideas about the material world, "says Rolf Dorset.
Also read: starved in 86 days


He was not alone. The story is well documented examples of people who have lived by light alone.
21 days process
- Within the past 15 years, several thousand conducted the experiment. It seems inexplicable, but overcome by thoughts. Especially conceived by philosophers Isac Newton and Rudolf Steiner, "says Rolf Dorset.

- An Australian New Age group in Australia is keen to give the phenomenon (new) religious overtones. But the fact is that with the specified 21-day process, it is possible for even the most common ordinary citizen to go to lysnæring (eating light) says and writes Rolf Dorset in one of the book chapters is about "Lysnæring then and now."
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- Lysnæringsprocessen assume that starting from midnight. During the first day, do not drink a drop of water. If you do the first week, you find out that something is going on, "says Rolf Dorset, who knows what he's talking about.

He believes that science's contention that "without food and drink, pigeon hero is not" is refuted by his twice fixed periods.

- Any doctor says you die if you do not drink anything in five days. The sailor say they crave in three days, is insane on the fourth day and die on the fifth.

- It does not fit, "says Rolf Dorset, adding:

- I'm the excellent today. And in fixed periods, I was in full labor going strong both physically and mentally. according to the scientists I should have lost me at least 43 kgś in 86 days, but I only lost 17 kilos.

Yet Rolf Dorset concludes in his book that his experiments with lysnæring partly failed because he had to suspend them. He was nourished, but not sufficiently nourished.

Today he eats like normal and has gained weight again, and he is of the firm belief that man does not live by bread alone, but also greatly by light. Light, which materializes in the body directly. As a kind of nourishment.
Beware
A book describing how to survive by not eating or drinking can be dangerous to the unstable souls. What says the author of it?

- On the book's very first page it says a warning. The intention of the book is to inform and demonstrate phenomena lysnæring. I do not recommend most emphatically do what I did. It may be associated with helhredsmæssige consequences, "says Rolf Dorset.

His book "Living on Light" is dedicated son, stand-up comedian and writer Sebastian Dorset "with thanks for loving endurance in encounters with quirky ideas and customized views."

- Sebastian has since been worried, but as always, incredibly loyal, says Rolf Dorset, not without reason, in his preface describes himself as a "Rasmus Opposite".

clover3
17-11-2010, 12:39 PM
I started sun gazing yesterday, was looking at the sun a couple of hours before sunset. It wasn't painful to look at as it was covered in hazy cloud.

I have woke up today however and my vision is slightly blurred, but only when i am trying to focus on something. The objects around me look slightly more high-definition than they did yesterday, but trying to read a book or words on the computer screen is difficult as they are slightly out of focus :(

Has this happened to anyone else? And does it go away? I really hope i haven't permanently damaged my sight!

mindatrisk
17-11-2010, 01:20 PM
Strange that sungazing has syncronised with me twice today now. First I was on Facebook and a friend had posted a link to a video on sungazing (I had no idea he knew anything about it), and then just now i've come onto these forums and this thread title was what was showing on the main forum page for this sub-forum. I only found out about sungazing a couple of months ago but decided to stick with raw veganism until spring / summer when there'll be more sun to give it a go, but maybe i'm being directed towards this now.

whiterain
17-11-2010, 01:33 PM
I started sun gazing yesterday, was looking at the sun a couple of hours before sunset. It wasn't painful to look at as it was covered in hazy cloud.

I have woke up today however and my vision is slightly blurred, but only when i am trying to focus on something. The objects around me look slightly more high-definition than they did yesterday, but trying to read a book or words on the computer screen is difficult as they are slightly out of focus :(

Has this happened to anyone else? And does it go away? I really hope i haven't permanently damaged my sight!

if you have only noticed it this morning then i think it should just go away in time. its recomended to only start with extrememly small amounts of sungazing and build your eyes up to it so they dont get damaged

i think it can be just as effective even if you dont look straight at it.

whiterain
17-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Thnx,don`t know about fasting, but i will certainly will try sungazeing....
just a little for the start,as soon as the clouds go away:D

many professional religious sportsmen manage to fast and still compete at high levels

koagula
17-11-2010, 02:23 PM
That wikipedia link proves that this man is a fraud.

Yes, I'm glad you've come to agree with me.

enoe
17-11-2010, 02:49 PM
Yes, I'm glad you've come to agree with me.

:rolleyes:

sungazer
17-11-2010, 03:02 PM
I started sun gazing yesterday, was looking at the sun a couple of hours before sunset. It wasn't painful to look at as it was covered in hazy cloud.


DO NOT LOOK AT THE SUN OUTSIDE SAFE HOURS
which are first or last hour of sun.Especially if you are beginner.Exact times of sunrise and sunset you can check online on this webpage.

Sunrise and sunset calculator (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunrise.html)

There are also lectures from Shri Hira on Youtube.Here is the LINK (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hira+ratan+manek&aq=0).There are two parts 45min each.You should inform your self better before you start.
Blurred vision will go away.Do not look at the Sun until your vision in not fine again.After looking at the Sun close your eyes until colors and images are gone.
I am practicing Sungazing as taught by Hiraji for last year and half and mine vision is fine.So no worries if you do it correctly.
Greetings from sungazer,at the moment gazing the Sun from Arambol,Goa.

jikwan
17-11-2010, 03:18 PM
DO NOT LOOK AT THE SUN OUTSIDE SAFE HOURS
which are first or last hour of sun.Especially if you are beginner.Exact times of sunrise and sunset you can check online on this webpage.

Sunrise and sunset calculator (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunrise.html)

There are also lectures from Shri Hira on Youtube.Here is the LINK (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hira+ratan+manek&aq=0).There are two parts 45min each.You should inform your self better before you start.
Blurred vision will go away.Do not look at the Sun until your vision in not fine again.After looking at the Sun close your eyes until colors and images are gone.
I am practicing Sungazing as taught by Hiraji for last year and half and mine vision is fine.So no worries if you do it correctly.
Greetings from sungazer,at the moment gazing the Sun from Arambol,Goa.

hi sungazer
considering youve been practicing for
a year and a half-have you completed the
the course? ie 10sec per day for 9 months

are you still eating / greatly reduced intake?
what about health-noticeably increased?

id be interested in any info by a long-term practitioner

koagula
17-11-2010, 03:35 PM
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

sungazer
17-11-2010, 03:41 PM
hi sungazer
considering youve been practicing for
a year and a half-have you completed the
the course? ie 10sec per day for 9 months

are you still eating / greatly reduced intake?
what about health-noticeably increased?

id be interested in any info by a long-term practitioner

I am now on 39 min,strictly following Hiraji instructions.Went from cloudy Europe to India in order to finish this practice.I intake mostly liquids.Tea,milk,lassi,honey...now and then i have some veg soup or similar.But i must stress out that this varies.Today i felt desire for food so i had fruit salad and some bread and honey..that happens now and then and it is perfectly normal as body is adjusting to new way of feeding(with Sun energy)With time i will be able to live without food.
As i am traveling lately i caught a cold(damn airplanes!)I was able to heal my self(with sun-charged water,sunbath and strong will)within 2 days.All in all my health is excellent(as it was before)I did not have usual "India related travel" problems..
I know for people cured from some of worst ills,all that by Sun.Every thing is possible!
Best!

jikwan
17-11-2010, 04:02 PM
sungazer,
theres many places on earth where
this practice is not possible

i had a very frustrating time during
this recent monsoon season here in thailand

to travel halfway round the world
to do this is a mark of real determination

me too, if im anywhere where the conditions
interfere with this practice-ill move away
and go somewhere else

seems like its really working for you
sustaining yourself on mostly liquids is a great sign

can i ask you what effect computer/tv watching
has on the progress
and do you notice that tea/coffee effects eyesight noticeably?

kingmob
17-11-2010, 06:01 PM
I am now on 39 min,strictly following Hiraji instructions.Went from cloudy Europe to India in order to finish this practice.I intake mostly liquids.Tea,milk,lassi,honey...now and then i have some veg soup or similar.But i must stress out that this varies.Today i felt desire for food so i had fruit salad and some bread and honey..that happens now and then and it is perfectly normal as body is adjusting to new way of feeding(with Sun energy)With time i will be able to live without food.
As i am traveling lately i caught a cold(damn airplanes!)I was able to heal my self(with sun-charged water,sunbath and strong will)within 2 days.All in all my health is excellent(as it was before)I did not have usual "India related travel" problems..
I know for people cured from some of worst ills,all that by Sun.Every thing is possible!
Best!

Awesome. thank you for your report.

biblegirl
17-11-2010, 07:43 PM
Screamingeagle I should have mentioned before that my dad was the first to set an example with a prolonged fast, 30 days. He was an athlete and still did his running in the morning (I don't remember how far) and if I recall correctly he even ran the city marathon during this time. This was when I was a teenager so I can't remember specifics.

biblegirl, how do you fast for 40 days without falling over 1 day? do you eat at all? do you run really low on energy? how much does your stomach hurt right after you stop fasting and start eating again?

:D kingmob, I think people use their feelings of hunger from skipping a few meals as a frame of reference to what it must be like to fast. This is just not how it feels at all. I am more hungry when I eat routinely than when I fast. The first 2-3 days before your body adjusts to fasting, yes you feel hunger. Not like you will fall over though! Just, hunger, like the food on TV and what your friends are eating looks really good and you want some. After 2-3 days, my hunger is gone. I just go about my business and food doesn't really look all that appetizing anymore, especially without feeling hungry. To be fair I should mention that before I embarked on the 40-day fast, I did a few 8-day fasts and one 21-day fast over the previous 2 years. So maybe I was already primed for prolonged fasting, I don't know.

No eating at all. Only juice, tea, lemonade, water. Some days I don't even get thirsty so I don't drink at all. The most discipline you must show during a fast imo is when you break it. After going even 8 days without eating, you can't just eat a hamburger and be fine. You have to start with the foods gradually, like first with steamed vegetables, etc. After my 40-day fast I did not start eating meat or bread again until probably 3 weeks from the day I was done fasting. It's just too much, too heavy to digest, too soon. This is the hard part :D. Because once you start eating again, you remember what it's like to feel hungry, you "wake up the beast", and you want to eat everything you see lol. So you must take it slow for the best results. Much healing and cleansing takes place during a fast and you wouldn't want to undo that. My energy stays high during the day, at night it starts to wane and I want to go to sleep an hour or so earlier than usual. My stomach doesn't hurt at all when I start eating again, but I dont' start with anything too exciting, usually steamed brocolli that has been steamed for so long that it is mush, applesauce, soft fruits and vegetables.

Hello everyone.
I found some text about Rolf Dorset. Bible girls story kind of made me want to look for it so here it is.
I had to do a google translation so its not perfect but i changed some of it to make more sence.:)


Great link, thank you for posting! The fasting books I read seemed to freak out enough over 10-21 days, so I thought I was being a rebel just by going 40 days. Now I have a new challenge. 86 days might be a piece of cake. I began a fast today on a whim so it may go that long, I'm not sure yet he he.

My body certainly defied the "calorie theories" and other so called nutrition science. At the end of 40 days of no food, I weighed 159 pounds and was a size 10/12, not even too far off from where I was when I started.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/239/endoffastme.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/endoffastme.jpg/)

This is me at the end of the fast.

In America this weight/size is considered pretty big lol. That's why I say I was nowhere close to going underweight, and I could have gone for much longer with no worries. When I heard about sungazing I thought it was probably a legitimate way to absorb nutrition, and I already knew that food was not as necessary as we are programmed to think.

I spent some time in Africa and was surprised when I didn't see the starving Africans walking around looking like ematiated skeletons like we see in the National Geographic magazines. They actually looked quite robust and healthy, even in the villages where there was little food. I wondered where the pictures of the "starving" people came from. When I looked into it, I realized those skeleton-like pictures are not of people who have nothing to eat, but rather of people who are infected with parasites which make them appear the way they do. So I also now wonder, since I have seen with my own eyes, if the concepts of starving to death may be surrounded with disinfo. I posted a while ago about how a new mother here had a baby who was unable to nurse or drink from a bottle, and the mother rubbed olive oil on the baby every day and the baby survived (presumably from the nutrition in the olive oil) for weeks until he was capable of eating by normal means. So some food for thought :D. Sorry I am not trying to derail too much from sungazing :o, I'll just say that I am confident that there are other means of surviving besides through eating, and sungazing is probably one of those ways, as we can gather through the testimony of others.

screamingeagle
17-11-2010, 08:28 PM
Screamingeagle I should have mentioned before that my dad was the first to set an example with a prolonged fast, 30 days. He was an athlete and still did his running in the morning (I don't remember how far) and if I recall correctly he even ran the city marathon during this time. This was when I was a teenager so I can't remember specifics.



Thnx,biblegirl,
my training is usually gym/pliometryc type....so not sure
about 100% festing but i was thinking to combine the two(sungazeing and food)
for the start???

your feedback is most usefull,really!!!!!!!

kingmob
17-11-2010, 10:09 PM
Screamingeagle I should have mentioned before that my dad was the first to set an example with a prolonged fast, 30 days. He was an athlete and still did his running in the morning (I don't remember how far) and if I recall correctly he even ran the city marathon during this time. This was when I was a teenager so I can't remember specifics.



:D kingmob, I think people use their feelings of hunger from skipping a few meals as a frame of reference to what it must be like to fast. This is just not how it feels at all. I am more hungry when I eat routinely than when I fast. The first 2-3 days before your body adjusts to fasting, yes you feel hunger. Not like you will fall over though! Just, hunger, like the food on TV and what your friends are eating looks really good and you want some. After 2-3 days, my hunger is gone. I just go about my business and food doesn't really look all that appetizing anymore, especially without feeling hungry. To be fair I should mention that before I embarked on the 40-day fast, I did a few 8-day fasts and one 21-day fast over the previous 2 years. So maybe I was already primed for prolonged fasting, I don't know.

No eating at all. Only juice, tea, lemonade, water. Some days I don't even get thirsty so I don't drink at all. The most discipline you must show during a fast imo is when you break it. After going even 8 days without eating, you can't just eat a hamburger and be fine. You have to start with the foods gradually, like first with steamed vegetables, etc. After my 40-day fast I did not start eating meat or bread again until probably 3 weeks from the day I was done fasting. It's just too much, too heavy to digest, too soon. This is the hard part :D. Because once you start eating again, you remember what it's like to feel hungry, you "wake up the beast", and you want to eat everything you see lol. So you must take it slow for the best results. Much healing and cleansing takes place during a fast and you wouldn't want to undo that. My energy stays high during the day, at night it starts to wane and I want to go to sleep an hour or so earlier than usual. My stomach doesn't hurt at all when I start eating again, but I dont' start with anything too exciting, usually steamed brocolli that has been steamed for so long that it is mush, applesauce, soft fruits and vegetables.



Great link, thank you for posting! The fasting books I read seemed to freak out enough over 10-21 days, so I thought I was being a rebel just by going 40 days. Now I have a new challenge. 86 days might be a piece of cake. I began a fast today on a whim so it may go that long, I'm not sure yet he he.

My body certainly defied the "calorie theories" and other so called nutrition science. At the end of 40 days of no food, I weighed 159 pounds and was a size 10/12, not even too far off from where I was when I started.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/239/endoffastme.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/endoffastme.jpg/)

This is me at the end of the fast.

In America this weight/size is considered pretty big lol. That's why I say I was nowhere close to going underweight, and I could have gone for much longer with no worries. When I heard about sungazing I thought it was probably a legitimate way to absorb nutrition, and I already knew that food was not as necessary as we are programmed to think.

I spent some time in Africa and was surprised when I didn't see the starving Africans walking around looking like ematiated skeletons like we see in the National Geographic magazines. They actually looked quite robust and healthy, even in the villages where there was little food. I wondered where the pictures of the "starving" people came from. When I looked into it, I realized those skeleton-like pictures are not of people who have nothing to eat, but rather of people who are infected with parasites which make them appear the way they do. So I also now wonder, since I have seen with my own eyes, if the concepts of starving to death may be surrounded with disinfo. I posted a while ago about how a new mother here had a baby who was unable to nurse or drink from a bottle, and the mother rubbed olive oil on the baby every day and the baby survived (presumably from the nutrition in the olive oil) for weeks until he was capable of eating by normal means. So some food for thought :D. Sorry I am not trying to derail too much from sungazing :o, I'll just say that I am confident that there are other means of surviving besides through eating, and sungazing is probably one of those ways, as we can gather through the testimony of others.

What an awesome post! Thank you for taking the time to write it. And you look very normal and beatiful to me, so eff the convention.

I've dieted before to lose weight, but still ate some food. The hunger does dissapear after some time, but during the dieting periods that were supplemented by daily 700-800 calorie burn, I've felt as I needed food to give me some fuel so to speak. Doing 2-3 days fast during these periods was quite routine and usually at the end of the that mini period I would feel pretty exhausted, so that's why I'm a little bit amazed to hear that you can feel energy sufficient without food for that long :)

noncooperation
17-11-2010, 11:05 PM
Screamingeagle I should have mentioned before that my dad was the first to set an example with a prolonged fast, 30 days. He was an athlete and still did his running in the morning (I don't remember how far) and if I recall correctly he even ran the city marathon during this time. This was when I was a teenager so I can't remember specifics.



:D kingmob, I think people use their feelings of hunger from skipping a few meals as a frame of reference to what it must be like to fast. This is just not how it feels at all. I am more hungry when I eat routinely than when I fast. The first 2-3 days before your body adjusts to fasting, yes you feel hunger. Not like you will fall over though! Just, hunger, like the food on TV and what your friends are eating looks really good and you want some. After 2-3 days, my hunger is gone. I just go about my business and food doesn't really look all that appetizing anymore, especially without feeling hungry. To be fair I should mention that before I embarked on the 40-day fast, I did a few 8-day fasts and one 21-day fast over the previous 2 years. So maybe I was already primed for prolonged fasting, I don't know.

No eating at all. Only juice, tea, lemonade, water. Some days I don't even get thirsty so I don't drink at all. The most discipline you must show during a fast imo is when you break it. After going even 8 days without eating, you can't just eat a hamburger and be fine. You have to start with the foods gradually, like first with steamed vegetables, etc. After my 40-day fast I did not start eating meat or bread again until probably 3 weeks from the day I was done fasting. It's just too much, too heavy to digest, too soon. This is the hard part :D. Because once you start eating again, you remember what it's like to feel hungry, you "wake up the beast", and you want to eat everything you see lol. So you must take it slow for the best results. Much healing and cleansing takes place during a fast and you wouldn't want to undo that. My energy stays high during the day, at night it starts to wane and I want to go to sleep an hour or so earlier than usual. My stomach doesn't hurt at all when I start eating again, but I dont' start with anything too exciting, usually steamed brocolli that has been steamed for so long that it is mush, applesauce, soft fruits and vegetables.



Great link, thank you for posting! The fasting books I read seemed to freak out enough over 10-21 days, so I thought I was being a rebel just by going 40 days. Now I have a new challenge. 86 days might be a piece of cake. I began a fast today on a whim so it may go that long, I'm not sure yet he he.

My body certainly defied the "calorie theories" and other so called nutrition science. At the end of 40 days of no food, I weighed 159 pounds and was a size 10/12, not even too far off from where I was when I started.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/239/endoffastme.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/endoffastme.jpg/)

This is me at the end of the fast.

In America this weight/size is considered pretty big lol. That's why I say I was nowhere close to going underweight, and I could have gone for much longer with no worries. When I heard about sungazing I thought it was probably a legitimate way to absorb nutrition, and I already knew that food was not as necessary as we are programmed to think.

I spent some time in Africa and was surprised when I didn't see the starving Africans walking around looking like ematiated skeletons like we see in the National Geographic magazines. They actually looked quite robust and healthy, even in the villages where there was little food. I wondered where the pictures of the "starving" people came from. When I looked into it, I realized those skeleton-like pictures are not of people who have nothing to eat, but rather of people who are infected with parasites which make them appear the way they do. So I also now wonder, since I have seen with my own eyes, if the concepts of starving to death may be surrounded with disinfo. I posted a while ago about how a new mother here had a baby who was unable to nurse or drink from a bottle, and the mother rubbed olive oil on the baby every day and the baby survived (presumably from the nutrition in the olive oil) for weeks until he was capable of eating by normal means. So some food for thought :D. Sorry I am not trying to derail too much from sungazing :o, I'll just say that I am confident that there are other means of surviving besides through eating, and sungazing is probably one of those ways, as we can gather through the testimony of others.
+1
Good info biblegirl.
+1 to the possible benifits of morning/evening sungasing also.

A strange coincedence, i logged into today to start a thread to draw peoples attention to The International Natural Hygiene Society (http://naturalhygienesociety.org/) - you have probably heard of them. A good society and their research started so long ago, and they are not affraid or too dogmatic to update their 'methods' as new research & observations come to light either. It was thanks to health, nutrition, diet etc. that i started to wake up. Recently I was re-reading some of my old books & then went online to their web site. There is a lot of information on this web site. So much of the knowledge they share is not widely known but VERY valuable information.

If you want to be extremely healthy, feel amazing most of the time, have boundless energy, have a clear mind powerful enough to compute complex problems, etc . . then the information on this web site International Natural Hygiene Society (http://naturalhygienesociety.org/) will interest you. I've been reading about & trying all this 'health' stuff for over 30 years and i believe their information is very unbiased and based on 'real-world' experience and example in nature - fasting for example, billions of animals are doing it every day from instinct when facing illness of just feeling under the weather!

Something everyone can try for themselves: next time you feel a cold/flu coming on (sort throat/low energy etc.), STOP EATING IMMEDIATELY (just drink water). Most of the time the illness will not develope much futher or will be very mild & short lasting.

I am mid 40's, never ill really for years now but i feel like my energy level is low and my thinking & memory isn't always good, so i am going to try to put into practice some of their suggestions about eating and fit a fast in as soon as i can.

Anyway i think i made my points, off to start a thread! :-)

All the best!

sungazer
18-11-2010, 01:33 PM
sungazer,
theres many places on earth where
this practice is not possible....

.....seems like its really working for you
sustaining yourself on mostly liquids is a great sign

can i ask you what effect computer/tv watching
has on the progress
and do you notice that tea/coffee effects eyesight noticeably?


I would not say that it is impossible to practice Sungazing in some parts of world.It just takes longer than in some other parts.Hiraji has mentioned people in Canada,Russia and Scandinavia.For some of them it took 3 years to finish practice but they still got benefits.
Remember that non eating as sensational as it is,is not a goal of Sungazing.
Enjoying peace of mind and excellent health is priceless and much better and more important than non eating.I see non eating as byproduct of Sungazing.
Do not look at "computer/tv" for 12 hours per day and you will be fine;)
I like garam chai(hot tea) and i drink it daily.No problems whatsoever:confused:
All the best,greetings from Goa!

koagula
19-11-2010, 08:57 AM
I was a little sceptical about this sun-gazing carry on, however, I tried it out for fourteen days in a row... I am now blind and my organs are failing , but I have lost 55 pounds in weight, delighted!

enoe
19-11-2010, 10:02 AM
I was a little sceptical about this sun-gazing carry on, however, I tried it out for fourteen days in a row... I am now blind and my organs are failing , but I have lost 55 pounds in weight, delighted!


:eek:

screamingeagle
19-11-2010, 10:06 AM
I was a little sceptical about this sun-gazing carry on, however, I tried it out for fourteen days in a row... I am now blind and my organs are failing , but I have lost 55 pounds in weight, delighted!

you cant` stop troling,can you. Use your energy more usefull.....please:cool:

stormer
19-11-2010, 10:24 AM
Has anybody noticed that the sun seems a lot brighter lately..?

screamingeagle
19-11-2010, 10:31 AM
i think that is normal for winter days:confused:correct me if im wrong

koagula
19-11-2010, 10:51 AM
:eek:

:eek:

koagula
19-11-2010, 10:59 AM
Koagula, you're a genius, I wish I was as Intelligent as you. The way in which you use your energy to benefit mankind is awe inspiring, you're now my hero ... :cool:

Thank you, it's always nice to get some recognition.

jikwan
19-11-2010, 01:55 PM
SG,
youre absolutetly right. the spiritual
benefits should be the main intention
of doing this practice

in my case, ive had, and still have a
lot of hindrance and interference from
food and fluid consumption in my
meditation sessions. a lot of the times
im unable to avoid contaminated,
bacteria ridden, denatured and
chemicalized food and drink. and im
very pissed off
sometimes i think that i would give my right
arm for a body that is not dependent on food

i try to do as much meditation as
possible. if i want wisdom and a calm
clear mind...i know i can get as much
of it as i want from meditation

youre in goa?
hey, i spent a month of a rainy season
8km from mapusa, near the beach
didnt like it much
so i went to the next state along-karnataka
to gokarna
spent 3 months there. had a great time!
the beaches are mainly deserted-long stretches
you cant see anyone. but this was out of season
monsoon
much cheaper than goa and lovely huts
a minute walking distance from beach
and gokarna is real spiritual place
a lot of indian pilgrims go there all the time

sungazer
19-11-2010, 02:37 PM
SG,
youre in goa?


Yeah..in Arambol...can see east and west from place where i stay,can make sun-charged water,and can walk barefooted..room is 2.5$..nice,small and clean..so no reason to move anywhere...goa or any other sunny place and i am happy!
All the best,namaskar!

jikwan
19-11-2010, 03:21 PM
i want to launch a an investigation
in an area i havnt much come across
in sungazing texts/vids

years ago i met a sri lankan govt
agricultural high-ranked administrator.
he was in charge of many progressive
technologies in growing food
i got the impression this guy was good,
very good, i saw his work: a 2 acre
patch of banana trees
such beautiful trees with huge fruit

so i listened to what he said

he said (or words to the effect).....
you put a plant in the forest...a small,
young plant--it wont grow all that well
because its surrounded by a lot of
sun-absorbing plants
they are busy getting as much sun
as they can to maintain and grow

put this same small plant all on its own
-nowhere near other plants...and you will
see a marked difference...grows faster

logic seems sound
i was so impressed with the results of
his work i immediately believed him
believed anything he said

so this is it.... position of sungazer considering
the immediate environment

heres the logic...someone gazing from the middle
of a forest is going to get very little of
the essential (whatever-it-is)
than a person distancing him/herself from
other (and maybe quite aggressive plant forms)
eg a desert or beach

the point im making is....sungazers operating
nearby sun-soaking entities is wondering why theres
no progress...slow progress

is this an explination?

jikwan
19-11-2010, 04:39 PM
well, SG
youre happy with your position
good for you, man.

i will assault you with some more
questions after a month

sungazer
23-11-2010, 07:21 AM
Bumping the thread again..does anyone know how to make this thread sticky?
Thanx and greetings from Goa.

biblegirl
24-11-2010, 06:12 PM
Nepal Buddha Boy abstains from water (and food?) for 6 months:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4479240.stm

inkspots
24-11-2010, 07:22 PM
I highly believe that food and its various affirmations are a lust driven by our senses. You have a fully equipped body with all propositions to exist in this reality. All you need is to understand its energetic stance and live with it. We still don't know what some part of our bodies do, and i guess that explains a lot - it changed during our existence according to our will (even if it was driven by pure lust and rage).

Therefore, the sun seems like the 1st logical choice for energy withdrawal. However, i do believe that chemtrails are meant to disable you from getting the normal capacity of energy you would usually get. I cannot describe the difference of energy i got from sungazing in a small village, totally abandoned by what we call "life", with the amount you get by living and going on living within a city - especially if you see fucking chemtrailing going on.

Imagine if everyone realized the potential of energy absorbing. The whole system we live in would collapse, as the only real reason people are working for - is to eat.

Now, even though it would be chaotic at one moment, imagine what brilliance and peace that would bring. I guess that we really are going for a dramatic change and the only enemy within it is... ourselves. Realizing things, and letting go of them.

biblegirl
24-11-2010, 07:38 PM
great post inkspots :)

jikwan
25-11-2010, 01:04 AM
Bumping the thread again..does anyone know how to make this thread sticky?
Thanx and greetings from Goa.

the only way, i think is to muscle
our way with the mods
theyre not, for some reason, see this
as worthy

we have more hits than a few or the
redundant other stickys

if a pile of us sent the same mod the same
message...something might shift

sungazer
25-11-2010, 07:21 AM
if a pile of us sent the same mod the same
message...something might shift

Not sure how to get to admins.Few months ago have tried to get to them but i remember that it wasn't like just sending them a mail..
This section is called "The Awakening/What we can do" and it is ridiculous not to have Sungazing as sticky.
As this is one of things/tools that we CAN do.It is simple,free of charge,free of guru,free of bullshit...
Namaskar!

jikwan
25-11-2010, 11:49 AM
got an idea
at the bottom of each post
theres a triangle
bottom lefthand corner-it reports
maybe sthing wrong with post
we/ as many as poss report on the
'make this a sticky' post
it must get through

anther idea is for one person
to press the report button 200 times

kingmob
26-11-2010, 09:15 PM
Nepal Buddha Boy abstains from water (and food?) for 6 months:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4479240.stm

Not related to sungazing, but cool, nonetheless. I have over the years, observed quite a few stories similar to this.

There is a famous Buddhist monk still in medidation somewhere in Tibet, and he is about 100 years in. They keep him in a big wooden box, and he is totally in great shape. Hopefully he comes out soon, but we will probably not hear about this...

zuzu
26-11-2010, 10:35 PM
theyre not, for some reason, see this
as worthy


Yeah, and I don't blame 'em.

crisitunity
27-11-2010, 10:05 AM
Never heard of sun gazing before but my gut reaction is that it would have been a very common and natural practice before the advent of electricity.


Who wouldn't have been watching the sun rise and sun set everyday? Would have been a natural ritual.

dolores1
27-11-2010, 06:15 PM
Never heard of sun gazing before but my gut reaction is that it would have been a very common and natural practice before the advent of electricity.


Who wouldn't have been watching the sun rise and sun set everyday? Would have been a natural ritual.

+1

apollo_gnomon
27-11-2010, 06:38 PM
http://static.railbirds.com/gallery/2009/02/41004sun_ball.jpg
.

free_thinker
27-11-2010, 06:51 PM
http://static.railbirds.com/gallery/2009/02/41004sun_ball.jpg
.

I got to get me a pair of those oven gloves.

jikwan
28-11-2010, 12:56 AM
Never heard of sun gazing before but my gut reaction is that it would have been a very common and natural practice before the advent of electricity.


Who wouldn't have been watching the sun rise and sun set everyday? Would have been a natural ritual.

interesting point

i have the same opinion
i dare say that some of the ascetics
would have used it as an object of meditation
and get fast progress making the mind
concentrated
and some of these guys would not settle
for a mere 1 hour before sunset/1hr after
sunrise
these guys would go for many hours
(my opinion, again)

the result would have been perfect health,
some form of enlightenment, concentration
and ability to live without food

im suspecting this was common knowlege
but the practice outlawed by the ruling elite
why?
because it turns ordinary people into supermen
with psychic abilities

for the exploitive elite......thats a threat to
their power

outlaw the practice/discourage it
erase, delete any mention of it in the
written texts/history, culture books

and spread the teaching that sungazing
is dangerous, harmfull

you think it a rediculous idea?

check out what they jesuits,et al) did
in the bookburning middle ages in europe

my view at the moment...

blakeriede
28-11-2010, 05:25 AM
you mean like this? :D

----


tritonal - invincible sun ( feat soto ) ( origional mix ) - YouTube

http://blakeman212.webs.com/sungazer.jpg

http://blakeman212.webs.com/sunchild.JPG


when i look into the sun for even 10 seconds or so...i feel as if i just drank a small cup of clean coffee...
it is a good feeling!

apollo_gnomon
28-11-2010, 05:38 AM
Just be careful staring at the sun. I burned a hole in my left retina when I was a kid staring at the sun.

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

kingmob
02-12-2010, 06:28 AM
Man, its been tough for the past 2-3 weeks. I've gotten may be 2 sessions in, since there has been no sun at all. At this pace I might be lucky to complete 1 minute a month:(

Anyways, wanted to ask....The ground has gotten very cold, so going out and standing barefoot is not possible anymore. Does everyone just proceed just looking at the Sun without making the contact with the ground, and just resume that whenever its safe to do so again?

sungazer
02-12-2010, 01:11 PM
Anyways, wanted to ask....The ground has gotten very cold, so going out and standing barefoot is not possible anymore. Does everyone just proceed just looking at the Sun without making the contact with the ground, and just resume that whenever its safe to do so again?

Yes.Looking at the Sun and standing barefoot is not a must.It is beneficial but not crucial.Most important thing is to look at the Sun(during safe periods)
I am now at 41min and most of the practice i have been looking with shoes on mine feet and i am more than happy with results.So no worries,just keep faith and do safe sungazing.
All the best!
Namaskar!

firstlook
02-12-2010, 10:52 PM
Just wanted to say that I smoked a nice stick of green and found my self sun gazing.

Its was a really good session. such a good feeling.

peace :)

tru3
02-12-2010, 11:22 PM
anyone ever seen a green flash while sungazing? this one is pretty well captured.

The Green Flash Is Real - YouTube

Visual effects

Green flashes involve physiological optics as well as physical optics. At sunset, the eye is almost invariably affected by looking at the bright red Sun, even for a few seconds; the major effect is bleaching of the red-sensitive photopigment from the retina. This bleaching distorts color perception, usually without the observer being aware of it: loss of red sensitivity means that the yellow stage of the sunset flash that precedes the green one is usually perceived as green, not yellow. A technical paper on this subject is now available.

However, green flashes are not afterimages! A great deal of effort has been wasted by proponents of the afterimage theory, which was directly refuted in the 1920s by Lucien Rudaux’s pioneering photography of a sunset flash (not to mention the argument that had been made for decades previously, that the existence of sunrise flashes was evidence enough against the afterimage idea.) Although the effects of retinal bleaching can be avoided by observing green flashes at sunrise, few people are ambitious enough to get up that early; :o and it’s difficult to know where to look, before the Sun is visible. So, most observations are made at sunset, and are affected by bleaching.

more... (http://sunlightenment.com/an-introduction-to-green-flashes-of-the-sun/#more-1525)

it made me smile. :)

sungazer
07-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Bump.
All the best!

tornado
20-12-2010, 01:42 AM
Yep, that's my upload of my compilation of sungazing related articles on the web, totaling 1700+ pages.
Very informative.
Thank you!!

koagula
27-12-2010, 04:53 PM
Maybe if I move to the Northern hemisphere, where the sun sits low in the sky for most of the year, I can live forever by sun gazing ... What money I'll save!

truthseeker08
18-01-2011, 06:35 AM
Wayne Purdin - The SOLution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32136041/The-Solution

ashangel
18-01-2011, 01:09 PM
thanks ill try to read that today. :)

jikwan
18-01-2011, 02:16 PM
SG,
there are exactly 10 000 people
waiting for your next bulletin from goa

hows it going man?

lakkimakki
18-01-2011, 02:25 PM
Maybe if I move to the Northern hemisphere, where the sun sits low in the sky for most of the year, I can live forever by sun gazing ... What money I'll save!

:D

tru3
23-01-2011, 03:26 PM
thank you for the Wayne Purdin link. :)

truthseeker08
24-01-2011, 06:31 AM
Wayne Purdin - The SOLution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32136041/The-Solution
And i in turn thank vladmir for providing me the Wayne Purdin link.
Its a goldmine of sungazing info!!

random
25-01-2011, 05:10 AM
It has nothing to do with sun-gazing but it is a nice experience i had nevertheless. Maybe I only experienced this sensation because i'm rarely exposed to sun light. I don't know.

It was summer. One night i couldn't sleep so i decided to wait for the sun. I decided to take a sunbath in my garden. I never stayed too long in the sun, only for short periods of 15-20 min with small breaks. I did this for maybe 3 hours.

My tiredness disappeared. I thought the sun would drain my energy so i could go to bed but the opposite happened. I never felt more charged in my life. I couldn't even sleep the next night.

jconnar
25-01-2011, 07:33 AM
I don't like sun gazing, but I like gazing at the rays of light (not looking directly into the sun) and also sky gazing.

sungazer
25-01-2011, 03:42 PM
SG,
there are exactly 10 000 people
waiting for your next bulletin from goa

hows it going man?

no one waiting any more:D
Was traveling last month as i have reached 45min.
Going back to Croatia in 2 days and i am quite happy about that!
Now i am at 26min and rest can be done back home without problem..
All the best,regards from Delhi!
P.S.
You should see what is going on here.State repression at work..its horrible...

biblegirl
26-01-2011, 08:32 AM
Red Elk mentions his 69 day fast in this vid:

Red Elks Great Vision (Part 2) - YouTube

Stalking Wolf sungazing (?)

He sat for the full four days, unmoving, as if made of stone, and his heart felt heavy with the burden he now carried.

It was at the end of the fourth day that the third Vision came to him. As he gazed out onto the landscape towards the setting Sun, the sky suddenly turned to a liquid and then turned blood-red. As far as his eyes could see, the sky was solid red, with no variation in shadow, texture or light. The whole of Creation seemed to have grown still, as if awaiting some unseen command. Time, place and destiny seemed to be in limbo, stilled by the bleeding sky. He gazed for a long time at the sky, in a state of awe and terror, for the red colour of the sky was like nothing he had ever seen in any sunset or sunrise. The colour was that of man, not of Nature, and it had a vile stench and texture. It seemed to burn the Earth wherever it touched. As sunset drifted to night, the stars shone bright red, the colour never leaving the sky, and everywhere the cries of fear and pain were heard.

Again, the warrior spirit appeared to Grandfather, but this time as a voice from the sky. Like thunder, the voice shook the landscape. "This, then, is the third sign, the night of the bleeding stars. It will become known throughout the world, for the sky in all lands will be red with the blood of the sky, day and night. It is then, with this sign of the third probable future, that there is no longer hope. Life on the Earth as man has lived it will come to an end, and there can be no turning back, physically or spiritually. It is then, if things are not changed during the second sign, that man will surely know the destruction of the Earth is at hand. It is then that the children of the Earth must run to the wild places and hide. For when the sky bleeds fire, there will be no safety in the world of man."

Grandfather sat in shocked horror as the voice continued. "From this time, when the stars bleed, to the fourth and final sign, will be four seasons of peace [that is, one year]. It is in these four seasons that the children of the Earth must live deep in the wild places and find a new home, close to the Earth and the Creator. It is only the children of the Earth that will survive, and they must live the philosophy of the Earth, never returning to the thinking of man. And survival will not be enough, for the children of the Earth must also live close to the Spirit. So tell them not to hesitate if and when this third sign becomes manifest in the stars, for there are but four seasons to escape."

Grandfather said that the voice and red sky lingered for a week, and then were gone as quickly as they were manifest.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154982

Has anyone had visions induced while sungazing?

kingmob
04-04-2011, 03:30 AM
Time to resurrect this thread, sunny season is upon us!

domathy
05-04-2011, 08:49 PM
Been sungazing for 2 yrs now and its amazzing.

mohowkmrt
09-04-2011, 07:45 PM
I'm have been sungazing for 2 months now, indeed a great feeling!

lovely2510
14-04-2011, 04:41 AM
Look into sungazing. It is a lie that looking at the sun will make you go blind. I haven't seen anything on this site about it. You have to do it barefoot, right before sunrise or sunset. Start by looking at the sun for 10 seconds on the first day. Then, 20 seconds the second day, 30 the third, and so on until you eventually, 9 months later are staring into the sun for 45 minutes straight. After this, you are done, and only need to walk barefoot in the sunlight for 45 minutes a day to survive. You will not need to eat food anymore, because the sun will give you your energy. This will help with ascension into the 5th dimension. Research sungazing if you think this is BS. Just like they told us 9/11 was done by Osama, they told us not to stare into the sun, and please research more than this post before you start. Good luck with becoming your light body!

check it out @ http://www.whatifthemovie.tv where Hira Ratan Manek talks about sungazing

mrunhappy
14-04-2011, 07:13 AM
I emailed HRM yesterday about this and here is his reply:



:)

It was my understanding that at sunrise and sunset you are not in fact looking at the sun, but it's reflection....

Due to the earth's atmosphere displacing the light from the sun.... or something like that.. it was on QI....

hadabusa
14-04-2011, 07:19 AM
Look into sungazing. It is a lie that looking at the sun will make you go blind. I haven't seen anything on this site about it. You have to do it barefoot, right before sunrise or sunset. Start by looking at the sun for 10 seconds on the first day. Then, 20 seconds the second day, 30 the third, and so on until you eventually, 9 months later are staring into the sun for 45 minutes straight. After this, you are done, and only need to walk barefoot in the sunlight for 45 minutes a day to survive. You will not need to eat food anymore, because the sun will give you your energy. This will help with ascension into the 5th dimension. Research sungazing if you think this is BS. Just like they told us 9/11 was done by Osama, they told us not to stare into the sun, and please research more than this post before you start. Good luck with becoming your light body!

why barefoot?

the human body isnt a tree, btw.

mohowkmrt
14-04-2011, 08:24 AM
why barefoot?

the human body isnt a tree, btw.

HRM says that it should be barefoot on earth or sand, stone or concrete would be fine, but not grass.
I'm not sure why not on grass.

In my opinion there is a diffrence in the good feeling I am getting in my head(in the front just little higher than the nose) :) Barefoot on sand is much more intense or ocours faster(and the sun can be lower on the horizon then, so it is safer then, the higher it is the more/faster energy you can get from my expierience, however the higher it is the higher is risk having some eye damage in the centerwiev lasting few days) that doing it with shoes on anything else. I think that sungazing is not only about getting good energy from the sun, but at the same time from earth hence the barefoot because shoes block the flow of energy, I could be wrong though :P

astrochicken
14-04-2011, 09:44 AM
why barefoot?

the human body isnt a tree, btw.


Watch birds sitting on a *single* power line or check the footwear of any electrician.


Barefoot is to let the energy flow through.

lakkimakki
14-04-2011, 05:35 PM
why barefoot?

the human body isnt a tree, btw.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8ObKalkBxIo/S3nABIa7IrI/AAAAAAAAAF8/v7W18L_Ob1s/s320/Gromobran.GIF

Gromobran :D

secund2nun
20-06-2011, 09:53 PM
I have been doing it for a few months.

So far I have:

*increased energy
*a little decrease in sleep needed
*increased eye sight (especially sharpness and color)
*a very good feeling immediately after a sungazing session (feels like I just ran or had sex type feeling)
*a decreasing appetite that is clearly noticeable.

secund2nun
20-06-2011, 10:01 PM
Looking at humans and how ill equipped humans are to survive on this earth physically unlike all other animals and how unique we are I personally believe humans (intelligence) either are fully extraterrestrials or a cross between a extraterrestrial specials and a natural ape series of earth- which explains why they cannot find the missing link of evolution.

I learn more toward the 2nd theory of humans being a cross between a alien specials and a earth species of ape. This could explain why we could have some incredible dormant powers in our brains- which most of the brain we do not use.

If we were half alien I would think a advance alien species would not need food. We may have that ability with the pineal gland and sungazing is just one way to activate it.

I will see if my appetite keeps decreasing. I would love to be free from food.

kingmob
26-07-2011, 04:48 AM
I'm now reading the book "The Solution" on Sungazing, and I'm just finding out that walking on sand or mud is pretty much essential for sungazing. I did not hear HRM pitch it like that.

So far all I've been doing is staring barefoot at the sun with no barefoot walking.

So it is absolutely necessary? Can anybody answer?

arch
26-07-2011, 05:35 AM
Has anyone here managed to sungaze for 9 months and then live without eating, as HRM promises?

eggs of satan
26-07-2011, 05:51 AM
Has anyone here managed to sungaze for 9 months and then live without eating, as HRM promises?

i have not eaten in two years.

i am also a competitive bodybuilder :rolleyes:

arch
26-07-2011, 06:27 AM
Someone with evidence.

domonic
26-07-2011, 09:01 PM
I agree i doubt you go blind from staring at the sun just a myth, but it does hurt and leave sun spots in your eyes for age's which is so annoying just like if you stair at a lamp too long. But maybe if you take it a step at a time it might work, ill try and let you know..

secund2nun
27-08-2011, 07:03 AM
Someone with evidence.

My appetite has rapidly decreased, but I am only at like 30 minutes and have only been doing it the correct way barefooted on dirt for a few months. Before that I was doing it with shoes on, which was nowhere as effective.

I feel stronger than ever despite barely eating. My eye sight is crazy sharp and has improved a lot. My acne is gone as well.

I feel confident that I will reach the non-eating stage. I didn't eat til 8 pm today and I was not even hungry when I ate. Now it is 2 am and I still have only ate that one meal and I feel like I am about to burst still. My stomach just gradually shrunk while doing this sungazing the past few months.

There was actually one week in between where it was rainy the entire week so I stopped sungazing for that week and my appetite shot way up for that week. Then when I began sungazing again it fell a lot again.

Just 1 year ago I was eating extreme amounts of food. I would eat like 5 slices of pizza each time I ate it, and each time I went to McDonalds I would eat 4 double cheese burgers etc.

mace
27-08-2011, 06:03 PM
My appetite has rapidly decreased, but I am only at like 30 minutes and have only been doing it the correct way barefooted on dirt for a few months. Before that I was doing it with shoes on, which was nowhere as effective.

I feel stronger than ever despite barely eating. My eye sight is crazy sharp and has improved a lot. My acne is gone as well.

I feel confident that I will reach the non-eating stage. I didn't eat til 8 pm today and I was not even hungry when I ate. Now it is 2 am and I still have only ate that one meal and I feel like I am about to burst still. My stomach just gradually shrunk while doing this sungazing the past few months.

There was actually one week in between where it was rainy the entire week so I stopped sungazing for that week and my appetite shot way up for that week. Then when I began sungazing again it fell a lot again.

Just 1 year ago I was eating extreme amounts of food. I would eat like 5 slices of pizza each time I ate it, and each time I went to McDonalds I would eat 4 double cheese burgers etc.

Nice diet you got there ;)

koagula
28-08-2011, 01:37 PM
I started sun gazing last week. I now have the ability of flight, I can fire laser beams from my eyes, I can up-root trees with my bare hands and I can also survive extremes of temperatue... Hopefully if I keep this up I will be able to live without breathing so as I can go into outerspace and head for Orions belt...

lakkimakki
28-08-2011, 02:29 PM
I started sun gazing last week. I now have the ability of flight, I can fire laser beams from my eyes, I can up-root trees with my bare hands and I can also survive extremes of temperatue... Hopefully if I keep this up I will be able to live without breathing so as I can go into outerspace and head for Orions belt...

ahhhhhh Nice man...... amazing !! :eek:

koagula
28-08-2011, 02:46 PM
ahhhhhh Nice man...... amazing !! :eek:

Thanks man, it's been a hard journey, but ultimately worth it!

akana
28-08-2011, 03:08 PM
It sounds really boring to stand and stare at the sun for 45 mins straight. I can barely sit still for 10 minutes not doing anything, short attention span.

zackw419
28-08-2011, 03:28 PM
Many yogi's live without food getting prana through the sun this way, awesome post thanks.

BTW there is proof of this

lakkimakki
28-08-2011, 04:47 PM
Thanks man, it's been a hard journey, but ultimately worth it!

I hope you can visit onions belt soon bro. :) aaaaaahhhhhhh i need to try harder.

koagula
28-08-2011, 10:41 PM
I hope you can visit onions belt soon bro. :) aaaaaahhhhhhh i need to try harder.

Cheers dude! I had a sun-gazing session earlier today and, after 3 hours staring into the sun through my powerful telescope at midday, my eyeballs melted. This is not a problem though, because sun-gazing opened my third eye.

I am considering changing my name to Jesus.

eggs of satan
29-08-2011, 03:20 PM
It sounds really boring to stand and stare at the sun for 45 mins straight. I can barely sit still for 10 minutes not doing anything, short attention span.

standing is ineffective. you have to walk in dirt.

ur bra size will probably increase a couple of cup sizes after a week

lonestar
29-08-2011, 04:30 PM
THANK YOU SO MUCH for bumbing this thread KAOGULA!! i will also try to get the word out on the benifits of sungazing at dusk and dawn. :D

superman1310
23-09-2011, 08:00 AM
There are a lot of good articles about sungazing on the web today. Everyone can find the techniques (well, at least the most popular ones, perhaps the most beneficial ones are still unknown to everyone but Indian yogis) but experiences are always different.
We should more discuss about our experiences if we are about to improve technique. Hira cannot, nor anyone else can do this alone.

Life with the Sun Blog/ (http://life-with-the-sun.blogspot.com/)

koagula
23-09-2011, 12:29 PM
THANK YOU SO MUCH for bumbing this thread KAOGULA!! i will also try to get the word out on the benifits of sungazing at dusk and dawn. :D

No problem, considering that sun gazing is such a fantastic pastime with awesome health giving benefits, I'm happy to help promote it!

lakkimakki
23-09-2011, 02:06 PM
What abut candle gazing? Can it be compared with sungazing? (cloudy countrys ,no sun).

superman1310
27-09-2011, 01:01 AM
What abut candle gazing? Can it be compared with sungazing? (cloudy countrys ,no sun).

of course, but you must gaze 100000000000 times longer than normally when you sungaze :P

you know, size does matter

mido
29-09-2011, 01:26 AM
:DIt sounds really boring to stand and stare at the sun for 45 mins straight. I can barely sit still for 10 minutes not doing anything, short attention span.

Short attention span? Symptomatic of people under 30 (usually). Do you spend most of your time texting, messing with your ipod and watching soaps? :D

koagula
29-09-2011, 12:54 PM
What abut candle gazing? Can it be compared with sungazing? (cloudy countrys ,no sun).

Yes, candle gazing can also endow you with the physical strength and prowess of 40 Lion's along with the intellectual capacity of 7,000 members of Mensa to the power of 12. However, you have to watch that you don't singe your nostril and eyelash hair's as you need to get quite close to get the proper effect!