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goldman
06-12-2008, 03:51 AM
I caught myself doing this several times, awkward idea I know. But it comes spontaneously, as a feeling I cannot surpress. I usually talk in (unknown) languages, words and sentences, but they feel right to say at that moment.
Anyone ever do this? or has experience with this phenomenon? or what it means?
:)
ustane
06-12-2008, 04:09 AM
I caught myself doing this several times, awkward idea I know. But it comes spontaneously, as a feeling I cannot surpress. I usually talk in (unknown) languages, words and sentences, but they feel right to say at that moment.
Anyone ever do this? or has experience with this phenomenon? or what it means?
:)
No, not consciously, but I have woken up out of a dream once talking fluently in some other language
goldman
06-12-2008, 04:38 AM
Got it plenty of times, usually at night though, before going to bed and waking up. I also sing or mumbling in tongues as well. Funny thing is, I didn't know it was called "speaking in tongues", I only found out that it's called like that after searching on internet. So finally got a name for it! :D
I just found this video a study from a University, they analyzed people who speak in tongues. Amazingly, they found that the brain area for speech is disabled when people speak in tongues:
Speaking in Tongues Medical Study proves Holy Spirit praying - YouTube
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madthumbs
06-12-2008, 11:12 AM
It's Jibberish that people are coaxed into.
nimlyn
06-12-2008, 11:57 AM
No, not consciously, but I have woken up out of a dream once talking fluently in some other language
LoL! Me too…I don’t speak French but I once woke myself up out of a deep sleep whilst saying Eau-de pêche? :eek:
masonicboom
06-12-2008, 11:59 AM
I hate it when you type the title for the message and hit enter and it tries to submit the post !!
Anywho,
This reminds me of something a bit strange.
My stomach said "Hello" to me TWO times within one hour as clear as a computer synthesized voice.
I actually had to say hello back because it was so convincing and I still think there is something more than just random chance to it.
hagbard_celine
06-12-2008, 08:40 PM
No, not consciously, but I have woken up out of a dream once talking fluently in some other language
You've heard of Mary Rodwell from Probe. Could your own experience be related to what she talks about?:confused:
phildee3
06-12-2008, 08:58 PM
It's definately opening yourself to spirits coming through.
99% of the time, - demons!
ustane
06-12-2008, 09:24 PM
You've heard of Mary Rodwell from Probe. Could your own experience be related to what she talks about?:confused:
I remember Mary Rodwell's speech at the Probe I went to in October. I never thought at the time it could be related to what she talks about but it could well be.
dedicate
06-12-2008, 09:50 PM
I know exactly what you are talking about, goldman. Go with it. It's not a bad thing. People may look at you askew, but who cares? Most of the time what you are saying will be understood if listed to with the Third Ear.. the over-ear. (in fact, you should have some figment of an idea what it is you are saying)
What you are saying in tongues is more to-the-point than anything said in the native tongue by most people. Don't listen to what the others are saying on this. It's a good thing. You are waking your spirit.
armoured_amazon
06-12-2008, 10:04 PM
I caught myself doing this several times, awkward idea I know. But it comes spontaneously, as a feeling I cannot surpress. I usually talk in (unknown) languages, words and sentences, but they feel right to say at that moment.
Anyone ever do this? or has experience with this phenomenon? or what it means?
:)
Yes. Sometimes in God's language, occasionally in Hebrew (I think,I googled some words and they came up as Hebrew). Haven't done it in about a year, though.
phildee3
06-12-2008, 10:06 PM
You are waking your spirit.
No, you are surrendering your spirit,
allowing another to speak through you.
armoured_amazon
06-12-2008, 11:03 PM
No, you are surrendering your spirit,
allowing another to speak through you.
+1
goldman
07-12-2008, 12:09 AM
Interesting, thanks for the replies so far. :)
At first, yeah it sounds "possessed" or something until I read further, and read that some Christians are doing this, and sometimes also in public.
dedicate
07-12-2008, 01:45 AM
You are doing some good important work on yourself. People may say that it is a sign of possession from somewhere else,, but it is just the opposite. You are beginning the possession of your self by your self. You are loosening the mind's possession over you and getting a glimpse of the true self.-- the spirit man.
I don't have to tell you not to look at this as an achievement or like some new toy to play with? Actually you should ignore it, forget about it, not seek out the experience. Let it happen if it happens but don't think much about it. You are entering a new world of the self and there is still far to go.
A Sat-Guru once said, when she was waking up, she would see into people's bodies and into their skins at their organs, she could see people outside the house minutes before they arrived.. She said also that every mark of good sense is to pay no attention to such things and see them as part of the process to higher realizations. Use them for good but don't make much of it.
You are doing good if you are having these experiences. I can not tell you how much good this experience is for anybody.
tejas
07-12-2008, 01:47 AM
Yes I can do this, In my opinion it is the activation of meta-language as in some deep subconsious level of primordial language that is being spoken from deep within the mind,
I very much doubt it is God or whatever, just another mysterious trick of the mind,
goldman
07-12-2008, 04:12 AM
You are doing some good important work on yourself. People may say that it is a sign of possession from somewhere else,, but it is just the opposite. You are beginning the possession of your self by your self. You are loosening the mind's possession over you and getting a glimpse of the true self.-- the spirit man.
I don't have to tell you not to look at this as an achievement or like some new toy to play with? Actually you should ignore it, forget about it, not seek out the experience. Let it happen if it happens but don't think much about it. You are entering a new world of the self and there is still far to go.
A Sat-Guru once said, when she was waking up, she would see into people's bodies and into their skins at their organs, she could see people outside the house minutes before they arrived.. She said also that every mark of good sense is to pay no attention to such things and see them as part of the process to higher realizations. Use them for good but don't make much of it.
You are doing good if you are having these experiences. I can not tell you how much good this experience is for anybody.
Thank you, very much appreciated. :)
phildee3
07-12-2008, 05:13 PM
+1
+ many
major seven
08-12-2008, 01:04 AM
Interesting, thanks for the replies so far. :)
At first, yeah it sounds "possessed" or something until I read further, and read that some Christians are doing this, and sometimes also in public.
Hey Goldman
You might try hanging out at some Pentacostal churches. They appear to do that talking in tongues thing all the time.
FM7
goldman
08-12-2008, 02:49 AM
Hey Goldman
You might try hanging out at some Pentacostal churches. They appear to do that talking in tongues thing all the time.
FM7
major seven
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:D a sign?
major seven
08-12-2008, 03:13 AM
major seven
Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 77
:D a sign?
777? LOL!
Got to be better than 666
Talking in tongues got a bit of press when Sarah Palin's former church got in the news. They mentioned some members doing that but not Sarah herself.
Always sort of wondered what was up with all that.
The apostles at Pentacost could be understood by everybody in the audience at the same time, right?
But does anybody understand anybody talking in tongues nowadays?
Never heard it myself.
FM778
dedicate
08-12-2008, 04:53 AM
What happened at Pentacaust was different than anything that has ever happened since. Those Disciples were talking to foreigners in their native languages. That is not what we are talking about here.
And we are not talking about making a religion out of it, either. What we are talking about is an experience that few people ever have. It is difficult to describe if you have not either seen it or experienced it for your self. -- outside of a Bible Study group or Chuch event.
It may be that the spirit is "learning to talk". The spirit is learning to formulate concepts and ideas that the normal fitfulness of the person usually will not accomidate. Like a friend my be talking and you would just say "Pa Ba Ba" or "Guramu Mantamba" in response. And it has meaning! Maybe you are telling him to shut up,, or maybe you are saying "take action and leave that stupid job". Something you wouldn't normally say. There's more to it than that but that is part of it.
pinkfreud
08-12-2008, 05:06 AM
i wish i could wake up one day and speak in french/spanish/german/arabic/swahili/portuguese/some random alien lingo.
maybe those who've experienced this either tuned in subconsciously to their past life, or were possessed by a spirit who felt the need to communicate something at that point.
if the latter comes into view, then you'll would be channellers of some sort :)
armoured_amazon
08-12-2008, 10:48 AM
i wish i could wake up one day and speak in french/spanish/german/arabic/swahili/portuguese/some random alien lingo.
maybe those who've experienced this either tuned in subconsciously to their past life, or were possessed by a spirit who felt the need to communicate something at that point.
if the latter comes into view, then you'll would be channellers of some sort :)
In my experiences, both as participant and witness, sometimes the Holy Spirit uses a vessel to communicate a message to a third party, say for example, an English person may start speaking in Igbo and the message may be for a member of that Nigerian tribe. Other times, it is just worship language, which is recognisable but not of the earth. I can tell when TV evangelists are faking it, because there is a difference between heaven's language and gobbledygook. :D Besides, I don't think the Spirit would move on TV, imo. Especially when prayer requests are granted with a credit card.
pinkfreud
08-12-2008, 11:26 AM
In my experiences, both as participant and witness, sometimes the Holy Spirit uses a vessel to communicate a message to a third party, say for example, an English person may start speaking in Igbo and the message may be for a member of that Nigerian tribe. Other times, it is just worship language, which is recognisable but not of the earth. I can tell when TV evangelists are faking it, because there is a difference between heaven's language and gobbledygook. :D Besides, I don't think the Spirit would move on TV, imo. Especially when prayer requests are granted with a credit card.
i agree a 100%.
i wonder what happens though when people seem to get possessed by another entity- that happens a lot here, especially during black magic rituals. i guess they instigate such things to harbour negative energy.
and well, if you're a vessel- especially a participant, that makes you a channeller/psychic/empath of some sort =)
you're tuned in to that frequency.
armoured_amazon
08-12-2008, 11:35 AM
i agree a 100%.
i wonder what happens though when people seem to get possessed by another entity- that happens a lot here, especially during black magic rituals. i guess they instigate such things to harbour negative energy.
and well, if you're a vessel- especially a participant, that makes you a channeller/psychic/empath of some sort =)
you're tuned in to that frequency.
:) We're all extensions of our Creator. The key is to not let anything in that is not Holy. My ex-housemate used to be possessed quite frequently and have no recollections of conversations between me and her entity. She wonders why she's always ill, ailing with this and that. Could it be perhaps whatever she invokes feeds off her, to her detriment...
pinkfreud
08-12-2008, 11:54 AM
:My ex-housemate used to be possessed quite frequently and have no recollections of conversations between me and her entity. She wonders why she's always ill, ailing with this and that. Could it be perhaps whatever she invokes feeds off her, to her detriment...
yeah, seems like she's got some negative energy feeding off her own.
ask her to place black tourmaline under her pillow while she's asleep and in her pockets all the time. it helps ward off parasitic forces and it should help i guess. people on this forum swear by it.
maybe you should do it too, since you're very receptive to other entities.
pf.
phildee3
08-12-2008, 12:12 PM
We're all extensions of our Creator.
That which is created is mortal. If it had a beginning, it has an end.
Our spirits are infinite and eternal.
The key is to not let anything in that is not Holy.
The key is to not let anything in.
We are already holy. The key is to expel, or transcend, all that is not (ie all that was created).
eternal_spirit
08-12-2008, 01:29 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H8jqpjTHOwc
armoured_amazon
08-12-2008, 01:30 PM
The key is to not let anything in.
We are already holy. The key is to expel, or transcend, all that is not (ie all that was created).
That would intimate that everyone has an open communication with the Infinite and not everyone does because they keep He/She/It out.
eternal_spirit
08-12-2008, 01:30 PM
I have spoken some strange words and wondered what they mean, but never written them down, then how do you spell them.
Next time it happens to anyone they should do a search for the words.
oddblock
08-12-2008, 01:32 PM
Tapping into the collective conciousness?
Seems most likely to me.... Though that's just my opinion ;)
phildee3
08-12-2008, 01:57 PM
That would intimate that everyone has an open communication with the Infinite and not everyone does because they keep He/She/It out.
No. The reason why people don't have communication with the Infinite is because they are not in touch with their "higher selves" that exists within them.
"The Kingdom of God cometh not from without; neither shall they say, 'Look here' or, 'Look there,' for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17: 20, 21.)
phildee3
08-12-2008, 02:08 PM
"The fruit of the [Holy] Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance." (Galatians 5:22-23)
Who speaks in tongues but the fundamentalists?
And what are their fruits?
Fanatical support for the Neocon's bloody wars!!
kasalt
08-12-2008, 03:19 PM
"The fruit of the [Holy] Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance." (Galatians 5:22-23)
Who speaks in tongues but the fundamentalists?
And what are their fruits?
Fanatical support for the Neocon's bloody wars!!
A clear case in point is Pastor Rod Parsley and John McCain, who sucked up to each other in the months leading up to the election. Listen to this video clip of the pastor speaking. Near the end, you can hear him say, "We get off on warfare":
McCain's Spiritual Guide - YouTube
"Shaddah yundai bokoyia" anyone? :rolleyes:
phildee3
08-12-2008, 03:31 PM
"Shaddah yundai bokoyia" anyone? :rolleyes:
Yubba dubba doo...
"We were created for conflict"!!!
Yes, by Yahweh, the vengeful, jealous, creator god.
Not by the holy, almighty, eternal, all-that-is in whom there is no conflict.
kasalt
08-12-2008, 03:34 PM
I've been in some churches where speaking in tongues is considered a necessary sign of salvation, and I've been in other churches where speaking in tongues is considered a sign of lunacy or demonic possession. I wouldn't care to hazard a guess as to who is theologically right or wrong on that question, because both sides quote from the same Bible in order to justify their beliefs and practices. All I will say is that if you want to see some of the ludicrous behavior that a belief system which includes the practice of speaking in gibberish can lead to, then have a look at this video:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
phildee3
08-12-2008, 03:55 PM
I wouldn't care to hazard a guess as to who is theologically right or wrong on that question, because both sides quote from the same Bible in order to justify their beliefs and practices.
For this reason, one should not base their theology on what is written, nor anything external to oneself, but upon one's own gnosis.
The quoting of scripture is for illustrating such knowledge, not for formulating it.
kasalt
08-12-2008, 03:56 PM
Much of the behavior that can be seen in the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement frequently appears to be little more than "voodoo" repackaged for white people:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
armoured_amazon
08-12-2008, 04:08 PM
No. The reason why people don't have communication with the Infinite is because they are not in touch with their "higher selves" that exists within them.
"The Kingdom of God cometh not from without; neither shall they say, 'Look here' or, 'Look there,' for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17: 20, 21.)
Potato, potato. You come at it from a "me" point, and I come at it from a "we" point. Semantics.
phildee3
08-12-2008, 04:19 PM
Potato, potato. You come at it from a "me" point, and I come at it from a "we" point. Semantics.
I suggest you read my message #28 again.
We are both "coming at it" from a "we" point.
wellsyboy
08-12-2008, 04:31 PM
I've done this loads and loads of times, very often as a kid, used to make up silly songs (better than Alexei Sayles and not dressed as a fascist either). Only find myself doing it infrequently now (maybe once every few months). Really weird I guess but took it as normal and kind of felt like a release of energy.
BTW - do not go to church, never have (except weddings) and totally non religious, also, no signs of abuse either (unless very suppressed!).
Not sure what it is but don't think it is possession, at least hope not :eek:
masonicboom
08-12-2008, 04:31 PM
A clear case in point is Pastor Rod Parsley and John McCain, who sucked up to each other in the months leading up to the election. Listen to this video clip of the pastor speaking. Near the end, you can hear him say, "We get off on warfare":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbIGJrDkg
"Shaddah yundai bokoyia" anyone? :rolleyes:
Tried to play the video but it opens in a special window (embedded not linked) and when you try to raise the volume from zero there is a dotted border field around an area containing the volume control and you cannot raise it due to this peculiar shield.
:confused:
armoured_amazon
08-12-2008, 04:33 PM
I suggest you read my message #28 again.
We are both "coming at it" from a "we" point.
I suggest you accept that I learn from God about spiritual matters and I come here to learn about matters of the flesh.
:)
kasalt
08-12-2008, 05:17 PM
In my experiences, both as participant and witness, sometimes the Holy Spirit uses a vessel to communicate a message to a third party, say for example, an English person may start speaking in Igbo and the message may be for a member of that Nigerian tribe. Other times, it is just worship language, which is recognisable but not of the earth.
I've heard of only a few other anecdotes to that effect, none of which have ever been independently confirmed. Curiously, such occurrences have never been recorded on audio or video. A number of studies have been performed on so-called "glossolalia" by linguistic experts, and "speaking in tongues" has always been determined to be absolute gibberish:
"When the full apparatus of linguistic science comes to bear on glossolalia, this turns out to be only a facade of language — although at times a very good one indeed. For when we comprehend what language is, we must conclude that no glossa, no matter how well constructed, is a specimen of human language, because it is neither internally organized nor systematically related to the world man perceives."And yet we are told in the book of Acts that "every man heard them speak in his own language (http://kingjbible.com/acts/2.htm)".
The scam of glossolalia is perpetuated today by calling speaking in gibberish "the tongues of angels" (1 Corinthians 13:1), instead of any human language to be found on earth -- a very convenient escape clause indeed.
Here are the results of another glossolalia study:
One individual's ecstatic speech was tape recorded and played back separately to many individuals who sincerely and devoutly believed that they had received the gift of interpreting tongues. Their interpretations were quite inconsistent; e.g., one said that "the utterances referred to a prayer for the health of someone's children." Another interpreted the speech as "praising God for a recent and successful church fund-raising effort." It is obvious from that study that those particular interpreters were unable to extract significant meaning out of the glossolalia.Source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/tongues5.htm
phildee3
08-12-2008, 05:28 PM
I suggest you accept that I learn from God about spiritual matters
I accept that your tongues comes from your god (or one of his many aspects).
I wouldn't know about all your other spiritual matters, though.
I come here to learn about matters of the flesh.
You're on the wrong thread then.
We're discussing spiritual matters here.
kasalt
08-12-2008, 05:51 PM
Tried to play the video but it opens in a special window (embedded not linked) and when you try to raise the volume from zero there is a dotted border field around an area containing the volume control and you cannot raise it due to this peculiar shield.
:confused:
I hate it when that happens. Sean, can you do anything about that?
While we're waiting on Sean to fix that issue, here is another less problematic way of linking to the video:
McCain's spiritual guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbIGJrDkg)
armoured_amazon
08-12-2008, 06:58 PM
I accept that your tongues comes from your god (or one of his many aspects).
I wouldn't know about all your other spiritual matters, though.
You're on the wrong thread then.
We're discussing spiritual matters here.
I can observe and participate in subjects without my opinions being changed.
aee02
08-12-2008, 08:08 PM
I was in a Christian summer camp 8 yrs old when I took that salvation step. Some of the kids began speaking in tongues. I definitely felt something happened to me spiritually but as an adult I can't help but feel that maybe some of the kids were coerced into this language.
I feel uncomfortable in settings where people are speaking in tongues and "hopping pews". I do not question the genuiness of the people who are speaking but I question the validity. I don't know if it is the discerning of spirits that makes me feel uncomfortable or that it is the chaos that ensues because there is not an interpreter present.
I just felt I have never truly experienced someone actually speaking in tongues and perhaps if I felt that I had I may have a different opinion of it. I do not mean to detract from anyone else's experience because their's may have been the real thing. Its just from my experience it has felt more like coersion and jibberish.
phildee3
08-12-2008, 08:53 PM
I can observe and participate in subjects without my opinions being changed.
Sure, but not on the subject of anatomy on this thread.
thelucifer
09-12-2008, 12:18 AM
I've heard of only a few other anecdotes to that effect, none of which have ever been independently confirmed. Curiously, such occurrences have never been recorded on audio or video. A number of studies have been performed on so-called "glossolalia" by linguistic experts, and "speaking in tongues" has always been determined to be absolute gibberish:
And yet we are told in the book of Acts that "every man heard them speak in his own language (http://kingjbible.com/acts/2.htm)".
The scam of glossolalia is perpetuated today by calling speaking in gibberish "the tongues of angels" (1 Corinthians 13:1), instead of any human language to be found on earth -- a very convenient escape clause indeed.
Here are the results of another glossolalia study:
Source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/tongues5.htm
Good post.
Speaking in tongues is utter nonsense/psycobabel.
phildee3
09-12-2008, 01:50 PM
psycobabel.
Good word!
Nobody could understand the Babylonian tongues either.
goldman
09-12-2008, 05:16 PM
I've heard of only a few other anecdotes to that effect, none of which have ever been independently confirmed. Curiously, such occurrences have never been recorded on audio or video. A number of studies have been performed on so-called "glossolalia" by linguistic experts, and "speaking in tongues" has always been determined to be absolute gibberish:
And yet we are told in the book of Acts that "every man heard them speak in his own language (http://kingjbible.com/acts/2.htm)".
The scam of glossolalia is perpetuated today by calling speaking in gibberish "the tongues of angels" (1 Corinthians 13:1), instead of any human language to be found on earth -- a very convenient escape clause indeed.
Here are the results of another glossolalia study:
Source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/tongues5.htm
I think we go beyond it's meaning with all sorts of attempts to explain it philosophical, theological & psychological right?
What I feel on such moment is indescribable. I don't have a very broad religious background to know that religious people were doing it, so it's a coincidence I found out it's used in religion.
So what it aims at for me, is talking from within. Something speaks or wants to say something in a language unknown to my mind. I don't really think it should or would matter something other than I know that it has a kind of grammar and flow that is very authoritarian in a strange way. It feels like communication takes place on some sort of level I cannot comprehend (as of yet) but I do feel that it is important in some sense. :)
armoured_amazon
09-12-2008, 05:36 PM
I think we go beyond it's meaning with all sorts of attempts to explain it philosophical, theological & psychological right?
What I feel on such moment is indescribable. I don't have a very broad religious background to know that religious people were doing it, so it's a coincidence I found out it's used in religion.
So what it aims at for me, is talking from within. Something speaks or wants to say something in a language unknown to my mind. I don't really think it should or would matter something other than I know that it has a kind of grammar and flow that is very authoritarian in a strange way. It feels like communication takes place on some sort of level I cannot comprehend (as of yet) but I do feel that it is important in some sense. :)
Exactly. :) Philosophers who haven't experienced it cannot write anything of merit.
kasalt
09-12-2008, 07:38 PM
What I feel on such moment is indescribable. I don't have a very broad religious background to know that religious people were doing it, so it's a coincidence I found out it's used in religion.
My posts on this thread were aimed at its use in religion, and were not directed at your particular experience. All to often with religion, Glossolalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is contrived and taken to extremes which quite naturally lead to absurdities and abuses. But in my opinion this does not mean that a person should not "speak in tongues" if they genuinely feel moved to do so. I suppose that if I were to find myself in such a state, I would go with the flow as well.
armoured_amazon
09-12-2008, 08:23 PM
But in my opinion this does not mean that a person should not "speak in tongues" if the genuinely feel moved to do so. I suppose that if I were to find myself in such a state, I would go with the flow as well.
That's the only reason (non-fake) people do so.
talulah
09-12-2008, 11:44 PM
I caught myself doing this several times, awkward idea I know. But it comes spontaneously, as a feeling I cannot surpress. I usually talk in (unknown) languages, words and sentences, but they feel right to say at that moment.
Anyone ever do this? or has experience with this phenomenon? or what it means?
o
:)
wow thats awsome that you have that gift.A friend of mine became born again some years ago and i was invited along to the church to witness this,there were people talking in tounges in the church,i swear ive never seen anything like it!Its an ancient language they talk in,or so ive been told!Enjoy your gift youve been given it for a reason!
goldman
10-12-2008, 12:14 PM
Exactly. :) Philosophers who haven't experienced it cannot write anything of merit.
Yeah, this is what I like about the David Icke forum, many people here are open minded before ridiculing anything, which is sure a sign that the people who come here have a great level of compassion/comprehension/understanding/intelligence/intuition (pick one or more) :D
it's a good place to be here, to share ideas & experiences without the risk of being put down on something very personal, doesn't mean there aren't critics, there are a lot of critics, but they have critique in a constructive manner.
That is exactly what "faith" means to me. If one isn't in tune with him/her self and the world, one can never have faith, because it lacks self-faith. To me, faith is about love and self-trust, not so much about "religion". I my opinion many religious people get it wrong and only are religious because for various reasons and lacking love and true faith.
And that is where ridicule plays a big part, because those who ridicule aren't in touch with themselves, who they truly are. It might also be fear of encountering something that comes very close which undermines previous thoughts and conclusions of who they thought they were.
--
goldman
10-12-2008, 12:23 PM
wow thats awsome that you have that gift.A friend of mine became born again some years ago and i was invited along to the church to witness this,there were people talking in tounges in the church,i swear ive never seen anything like it!Its an ancient language they talk in,or so ive been told!Enjoy your gift youve been given it for a reason!
Thanks. :) I wonder though when people start doing it, and for what reason since I certainly think that some will do it as a sort of group response, whereas some (like me I guess) do it spontaneously.
I'm quite amazed at my uttering, like I said it usually has very authoritarian tone, almost if it's a kind of spoken warning to cast off a bad entities or to warn them. (at least that is the feeling I get with it)
secondly, there are also moments of joy in it, (like the soft singing and whispering) I had it a couple of times early in the morning, I start to chant a bit (automatically) and suddenly a bird came at the tree next to my window and started to chirp on it's own. a kind of bird I never heard before (on his tone), almost complete silence, and no-one on the streets, and we sang together a sweet tune :D awkward to admit now, but these things happen. :o
I also read somewhere that speaking (and singing) in tongues is a very personal language & personal message, I believe that is true. As in: For your ears only :D
phildee3
10-12-2008, 05:40 PM
...there are also moments of joy in it, (like the soft singing and whispering) I had it a couple of times early in the morning, I start to chant a bit (automatically) and suddenly a bird came at the tree next to my window and started to chirp on it's own. a kind of bird I never heard before (on his tone), almost complete silence, and no-one on the streets, and we sang together a sweet tune :D awkward to admit now, but these things happen.
I'm not sure that what you are describing can correctly be called "tongues."
The definition of a "tongue" is "a language" ("...they heard them each in his own tongue").
These are more accurately described as "vocalisations."
They do not pretend to be a language (in the sense that each sound represents a specific concept).
Yes, I do that too.
It's fun!
Lewis Carrol made use of it - in "nonsense poetry."