After School club MUST celebrate Eid ul-Adha.

[1eyeopen]

Hello. This is the first thread i have started, i've not been here long.

My partner works in the child care sector. The business she works for has been told by the people who tell schools, nurseries and after school clubs what to do that they must be seen as being "multi cultural" (is there even such a thing?). Now, in order to be seen as being "multi cutural" they must celebrate the Musilim Holiday Eid ul-Adha whilst at the same time they ARE NOT ALLOWED to mention Christmas UNLESS a child brings it up in conversation.


At the place my partner works there are two Muslim Children and one member of staff who is also muslim. The rest are non-muslim who, regardless of religion will be celebrating Christmas as will the three Muslims.

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When she told me of this i understood it that in order to be "Multi Cultural" we need to forget our traditions and holidays and adopt those of OTHER cultures instead.

When she read what wiki had to say on the on the "holiday" she was quite put off.

A small part of what wikipedia says;

Eid ul-Adha (عيد الأضحى), or the Festival of Sacrifice, falls approximately 70 days after Eid ul-Fitr (end of Ramadan) and is celebrated in honor of the prophet Abraham willingness to sacrifice his son as a proof of his loyalty to God.

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Is it right that this is forced upon children who do not follow the religon whilst at the same time putting a ban on Christmas?
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[cafetimes1991]

Good post, 1eyeopen, and welcome to the forum.

[talulah]

Hello. This is the first thread i have started, i've not been here long.

My partner works in the child care sector. The business she works for has been told by the people who tell schools, nurseries and after school clubs what to do that they must be seen as being "multi cultural" (is there even such a thing?). Now, in order to be seen as being "multi cutural" they must celebrate the Musilim Holiday Eid ul-Adha whilst at the same time they ARE NOT ALLOWED to mention Christmas UNLESS a child brings it up in conversation.


At the place my partner works there are two Muslim Children and one member of staff who is also muslim. The rest are non-muslim who, regardless of religion will be celebrating Christmas as will the three Muslims.

__________________________________________________ __________

When she told me of this i understood it that in order to be "Multi Cultural" we need to forget our traditions and holidays and adopt those of OTHER cultures instead.

When she read what wiki had to say on the on the "holiday" she was quite put off.

A small part of what wikipedia says;

Eid ul-Adha (عيد الأضحى), or the Festival of Sacrifice, falls approximately 70 days after Eid ul-Fitr (end of Ramadan) and is celebrated in honor of the prophet Abraham willingness to sacrifice his son as a proof of his loyalty to God.

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Is it right that this is forced upon children who do not follow the religon whilst at the same time putting a ban on Christmas?
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Hope this makes sense and is in the right place.

Good post,thankyou and hi.My daughter also goes to a multi cultural school.By Multi culture i thought that meant many cultures learning together but thats obviously not the case.Its disgusting that the kids arent allowed to mention xmas!What the hells going on in this country?This is the U.K and as we have to respect other cultures religions and beliefs they in turn should respect ours.Tony Blair has a lot to answer for.

Peace.

[jumangi]

Hello. This is the first thread i have started, i've not been here long.

My partner works in the child care sector. The business she works for has been told by the people who tell schools, nurseries and after school clubs what to do that they must be seen as being "multi cultural" (is there even such a thing?). Now, in order to be seen as being "multi cutural" they must celebrate the Musilim Holiday Eid ul-Adha whilst at the same time they ARE NOT ALLOWED to mention Christmas UNLESS a child brings it up in conversation.


At the place my partner works there are two Muslim Children and one member of staff who is also muslim. The rest are non-muslim who, regardless of religion will be celebrating Christmas as will the three Muslims.

__________________________________________________ __________

When she told me of this i understood it that in order to be "Multi Cultural" we need to forget our traditions and holidays and adopt those of OTHER cultures instead.

When she read what wiki had to say on the on the "holiday" she was quite put off.

A small part of what wikipedia says;

Eid ul-Adha (عيد الأضحى), or the Festival of Sacrifice, falls approximately 70 days after Eid ul-Fitr (end of Ramadan) and is celebrated in honor of the prophet Abraham willingness to sacrifice his son as a proof of his loyalty to God.

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Is it right that this is forced upon children who do not follow the religon whilst at the same time putting a ban on Christmas?
_________________

Hope this makes sense and is in the right place.
hello and welcome!

good post and imo id say its pc gone mad. why should anyone stop talking about christmas incase it offends anyone??

seems to me that the more people try not to offend another persons beliefs by trying too hard, just seems to be patronizing!

[talulah]

hello and welcome!

good post and imo id say its pc gone mad. why should anyone stop talking about christmas incase it offends anyone??

seems to me that the more people try not to offend another persons beliefs by trying too hard, just seems to be patronizing!

Hello darlin!I agree its mental.Its like who makes these crazy laws anyway?:)

[mushroombot]

Hello darlin!I agree its mental.Its like who makes these crazy laws anyway?:)

It seems like a full on barrage of petty laws specifically designed to get under our skin. From what I understand, all this promotion of multiculturalism is made out to be a really positive thing but the real agenda is the opposite. To create and re-enforce divisions in society. I remember a few years back when my son was doing citizenship lessons. I thought to myself there was something about it that didnt quite gel. From what I've heard since, it was pure EU and cultural diversity indoctrination - highlighting and magnifying differences.

[talulah]

It seems like a full on barrage of petty laws specifically designed to get under our skin. From what I understand, all this promotion of multiculturalism is made out to be a really positive thing but the real agenda is the opposite. To create and re-enforce divisions in society. I remember a few years back when my son was doing citizenship lessons. I thought to myself there was something about it that didnt quite gel. From what I've heard since, it was pure EU and cultural diversity indoctrination - highlighting and magnifying differences.

Hello:) Yes its defo designed to get under our skin.having many cultures togther is a good thing but where do we draw the line?Its unbelievable.

[mushroombot]

Hello:) Yes its defo designed to get under our skin.having many cultures togther is a good thing but where do we draw the line?Its unbelievable.

Agreed, mixing cultures is a good thing if done the right way. These petty laws are definitely a way of agitating us and making criminals of more people.

I suppose, getting together with other parents and encouraging kids to rebel and talk about Christmas. If enough people did it, they would be powerless to stop it.

To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of xmas but it is nice for the kids when they get prezzies. I cant help but think that it's a bit of a materialistic ritual to prepare them as consumers. A bit cynical I know.

[breezinreezin]

You may find some answers here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44021

[illuminati downfall]

Personally I love the idea of multiculturalism. I think it's great that people are given the chance to experience and learn to understand the holidays and customs of other races and religions. However it should always be a two way street. In a situation like what was mentioned by the original poster, if the christian children are made to learn about the Muslim holiday, then they should still be able to talk about and celebrate their own too. I would think that the little Muslim children would love to learn about Christmas as well.

Things of this type seem to me like nothing more than just another little law passed just to annoy people, shake things up, create a little chaos and see how far people can be convinced to be pushed at this time. :confused:

[breezinreezin]

Personally I love the idea of multiculturalism.

Of course you love it, you're Canadian and Canada is where the Neo Socialists first rolled out multiculturalism. So you would have been subject to the most intense indoctrination for the longest period of time. Of course, as with all the cleverest forms of indoctrination (and the Frankfurt School put their best minds to the task of how to influence societies to accept their agenda), you'll think that you made your own mind up.

[tyler]

Of course you love it, you're Canadian and Canada is where the Neo Socialists first rolled out multiculturalism. So you would have been subject to the most intense indoctrination for the longest period of time. Of course, as with all the cleverest forms of indoctrination (and the Frankfurt School put their best minds to the task of how to influence societies to accept their agenda), you'll think that you made your own mind up.

Great reply, Breezin...I'm warming to you!

So many people object to this indoctrination of their children but always feel they have to say..."Oh, I love multi-culturism and the mixing of cultures etc" They can't see that multiculturism is in fact destroying ALL cultures especially the host countrys.
By the way, it's Christmas, not Xmas or the Holidays!

[lizzy]

Great reply, Breezin...I'm warming to you!

So many people object to this indoctrination of their children but always feel they have to say..."Oh, I love multi-culturism and the mixing of cultures etc" They can't see that multiculturism is in fact destroying ALL cultures especially the host countrys.
By the way, it's Christmas, not Xmas or the Holidays!

;)

[alfrmo]

Division is what this Multi-culturalism is about, not unity. The PTB seek to undermine our culture, indeed all cultures in order to fragment society and breed hatred and fear, whilst reaping the subsequent benefits of an alienated, angry and disenfranchised population. Embracing of culture can never be imposed from above.

[illuminati downfall]

After reading the posts after my own, I really began to see things in a slightly different light. I had always merely assumed that multiculturalism was always a good thing. It's actually great to have to consider this.

[mushroombot]

Division is what this Multi-culturalism is about, not unity. The PTB seek to undermine our culture, indeed all cultures in order to fragment society and breed hatred and fear, whilst reaping the subsequent benefits of an alienated, angry and disenfranchised population. Embracing of culture can never be imposed from above.

Agreed

[armoured_amazon]

Makes me SICK. Thankfully, in our (Jewish) school, ALL religious festivals are discussed freely by teachers and children. One way censorship sucks.

Division is what this Multi-culturalism is about, not unity. The PTB seek to undermine our culture, indeed all cultures in order to fragment society and breed hatred and fear, whilst reaping the subsequent benefits of an alienated, angry and disenfranchised population. Embracing of culture can never be imposed from above.

I agree.

[1eyeopen]

Thanks for reeplying everyone.

Personaly i dont think there is such a thing as "Multi Cultural".

Sure people of differing faiths, religions and beliefs can live in the same country but they still celebrate their OWN respective holidays/festivels SEPERATELY

Someone once told me that the NHS was "Multi Cultural" because they have many members of staff from many different places. Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe ect. I said "No, the NHS is multi racial. They may have African doctors but they dont help patients with the leaf of the ouiga ouiga tree the use standard Western Medication."


I do believe that all of this "multi cultural" PC nonsense, especially that in England has been created to make the English/British look and feel racist.
It seems that everything we do is offensive to non-English/non-Britsh people and that we should feel terribly guilty and change our ways immediately.

Thanks again for the replies, it's nice to know there are people with a similar opinion to my own.