What is "the illumanati's" REAL goal

[magicmerlin]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?

[clozaril]

well from all the crap floating around in my head here goes -

the pleiadians say that 5th dimensional is pure love no fear exists there 4th dimensional beings still operate with fear and can use the enregy of fear.

can't remmeber if it was phil schnieder of william cooper who said that the us signed a treaty with the greys who would give the u.s. advanced technology then not so long after a more advanced alien race (human in appearence, probably 5d) said they would help us if we stop nuclear research, disarm and stop our treaty with the greys. they also warned about the greys agenda which was to utilise our dna for there advancment to progress to the 5th dimension.

as for me i don't know

[rossus]

i think da top of da "illuminati" worship "satan"...
and dat for them "satan" represents selfishness, pure egoism:
bathing in pleasure on da blood, pain and tears of others.

maybe they also figure dat if they don't struggle to become da number 1 power,
dat themselves will be dominated by others.
so it's better themselves ruling, than somebody else.



possibly da "illuminati" have psychopathy more present in their genes than other people,
and da reason they're obsessed with interbreeding is becoz
da "Satanic Psychopathic Consciousness" can be more easily/more extremely activated in their own genes than in da usual person.

i think dat from early age they raise their kids to become obsessed with power and pleasure,
in order to activate da "Satanic Psychopathic Consciousness" in them.



so i guess it's psychopathy...
possibly driven by some sort of External-Satanic-Spiritual-Vibration
(which would probably be able to be interpreted/experienced in different ways, of which Reptilianism is one)

i'm not even quite sure if such thing as an External-Satanic-Spiritual-Vibration really existz tho.

[wazaaap]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?


They want all the sweets for there self!!

Bastards!!

[11indigo11]

To play their part in the duality game.

[wazaaap]

To play their part in the duality game.

Is this another craze on bored.com? I love that site!!

[11indigo11]

Is this another craze on bored.com? I love that site!!

Its on earth.com

[goldenratio]

absolute control
absolute power

[Anders Lindman]

Hierarchical control. Baboon societies for example are hierarchically controlled. The baboons with higher social rank have lower levels of stress than the lower ranked members, and the lowest ranked members experience the same stress hormone levels as in clinically depressed humans.

It's about control and predictability. A lower ranked baboon who has caught a prey by much effort can have that food taken away by a higher ranked baboon. The higher ranked baboons have control and predictability whereas the lower ranked baboon have the opposite; lack of control and predictability.

Sometimes the baboon societies break down where the hierarchy of social rank falls apart. In times when the social hierarchy collapses, then the higher ranked baboons no longer have control and predictability, and their stress levels increase with impaired immune system and other biological problems as a result. Therefore the higher ranked baboons are very eager to keep the hierarchy of rank intact.

The same in human societies. The elite want to maintain control and predictability. Otherwise they become very vulnerable.

[stinky catz]

absolute control
absolute power

If they wanted this they would have it already, and they probably do have absolute power but choose not to show us. :p

I've always asked myself this question. What are the illuminati doing? What are they REALLY doing? There has to be some big huge event that has taken them thousands of years to prepare for. BUT what? It doesn't make sense. There has to be some big huge reason for needing chem trails, Id cards/chips, wars, famine, drugs, etc. What is their goal? :confused::eek:

[goldenratio]

If they wanted this they would have it already, and they probably do have absolute power but choose not to show us. :p

I've always asked myself this question. What are the illuminati doing? What are they REALLY doing? There has to be some big huge event that has taken them thousands of years to prepare for. BUT what? It doesn't make sense. There has to be some big huge reason for needing chem trails, Id cards/chips, wars, famine, drugs, etc. What is their goal? :confused::eek:

I think they already do have control to a certain point but not absolute control, there are still rogue elements, there is still an element of freedom of choice, I believe they want to remove the variables so that nothing is left to chance.

chem trails, Id cards/chips, wars, famine, drugs all point to more control

they want to control EVERYTHING not 80% or 90% but 100% of EVERY aspect of life on the planet so that nothing happens without their say so, no random acts just predictable control

people sleep, eat, work, think, live, breed, die when they say so just like a farmer with a battery chicken farm

[lenejento]

So many different theories here. Seems like everyone has a different version to a greater or lesser degree. Even if they told us why, could we believe them?

I guess this is one of the most important questions of all when it comes to knowledge, so it's frustrating that we don't have (a clear) the answer.

[11indigo11]

SomeONE needs to to play the "evil" part;)

[multiversal]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?

Try explaining to a dog (in words) why you don't want it shitting on your carpet and running riot around your house and see if it understands.

Now apply that theory to us. Us being the dogs and the owners being 'them'.

[rossus]

Try explaining to a dog (in words) why you don't want it shitting on your carpet and running riot around your house and see if it understands.

Now apply that theory to us. Us being the dogs and the owners being 'them'.
do we shit on the illuminati's carpet ?

[multiversal]

do we shit on the illuminati's carpet ?

In short - yes. That's how they see it anyway.

Dog's (or pets for that matter) are nice to have around because they serve a purpose but we don't want them to do anything that would inconvenience us too much so we 'teach' them how to be civilized animals or they get sent to the pound or put down (in extreme circumstances).

Sound familiar?

[briggs55]

To play their part in the duality game.
:cool: Exactly, my friend.. People don't realize this is just a game to them.. Which, it truly is if, you take part in the polarity game... It's fun for so long.. Then it gets tedious !!! It's all about who's right and who's wrong... It's all bull shit.. Don't buy into this game.. That's what I do..

[briggs55]

We feed the game by buying into it.. That's exactly what they want.. They want to have an opposition!!! They love to feed off of our emotions.. Stop playing along and they'll step off the ledge..

We created the Illuminati with out ignorance.. Ignorance is bliss till you wake up! We are to blame just as much as they are... There is no one else to blame but ourselves..

[abrilliantone]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?



Yes, there is so-called 'good' and 'bad' non-human entities. The problem is that there's more 'bad ones' working towards our enslavement. Then there are 'good ones' trying to help us.



What's 'the real motive' and 'goal' of The Illuminati?



Yes, it is to micro-chip us all. But not just to be able to have 'control' over us all. But to be able to 'harvest' our energy at will.


http://www.newciv.org/pic/nl/artpic/195/188/verichip.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3157/1220/320/verichip2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/larkspur10/neo/228/towers.jpg

http://www.raidersnewsnetwork.com/news/images/main/matrix-pod.jpg

You must keep this in mind. This is the true purpose of The Illuminati. Everything else is just a distraction.



Once they have us implanted with them. Then the "flase flag operations" will no longer be needed. They can simply cause us to have whatever type of 'emotional break down' they need. To feed off of the energy that we create when our bodies goes through those emotional experiences.






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[le chuck]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?

G-d created Man not the devil (fact)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pCBxso4xip8

[twistedconcept]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?

Why can't they simply be evil humans? They're psycopaths that want complete control. All psychopaths love the feeling of making others weak and want to exert control over them. The elites simply believe that they are of a better genetic structure. They believe that they need to rule over the 'commoners' and the 'little people'. We're simply seen as scum that needs to be ruled (Nick Rockefeller).

I'm not sure about all this reptilian stuff. I'm not saying it's completely wrong but I can only go off what I can prove.

[persian_x]

Why can't they simply be evil humans? They're psycopaths that want complete control. All psychopaths love the feeling of making others weak and want to exert control over them. The elites simply believe that they are of a better genetic structure. They believe that they need to rule over the 'commoners' and the 'little people'. We're simply seen as scum that needs to be ruled (Nick Rockefeller).

I'm not sure about all this reptilian stuff. I'm not saying it's completely wrong but I can only go off what I can prove.

Right on,

with all the information out there my consciousness is in conflict between two perspectives : 1- Psychopathic Royalties trying to dominate through secrecy
2- Illuminati serving as a tool from the 4D Greys/Reptilians to hide us from our true evolving potential to reach 5D earth and thus surpassing them.

In theory the second point seems very true and explains a lot about our history (versus HERstory of the true human spirit of love and gratefulness to Gaïa). But for now all the proofs I've gathered point towards the 1st option...

[lenejento]

Why are there psychopaths? Who are they? I don't understand psychopathy..

:o

[lightgiver]

So many different theories here. Seems like everyone has a different version to a greater or lesser degree. Even if they told us why, could we believe them?

I guess this is one of the most important questions of all when it comes to knowledge, so it's frustrating that we don't have (a clear) the answer.

These are the perpetrators on this posted vid,this is a very clear answer.

David The Devil Rockefeller Wants Us All DEAD - YouTube

and their goal is a de populated earth of around 500 million,and a 1 world order ,with everybody chipped,and the few govern the rest,a bit like now ,but a lot more extreme,
and they are going to achieve this through,well you should know that one?

and the psychopaths are a few elite rich and powerful families who run the show with the help of their lackeys,try looking towards the CFR,the trilateral commission,the bilderberg group and a few others,its all on the forum.

[lightgiver]

Why are there psychopaths? Who are they? I don't understand psychopathy..

:o

the psychopathic traits are prevalent in these elite classes,that's how they get to were they get.

Psychopathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An almost all-pervasive misconception is that psychopaths are doomed to a life of violence and crime; however, it is possible for psychopaths to be charming, popular and successful in many lines of work.

Otto Kernberg believed that psychopathy should fall under a spectrum of pathological narcissism, that ranged from narcissistic personality on the low end, malignant narcissism in the middle, and psychopathy at the high end. Because of the psychopath's inability to internalize superego precursors, they are typically unable to learn from past mistakes, and are completely devoid of a conscience.

[zen_fox]

Aliens blew up the world trade center to turn all the kids gay. Totaly logical. :rolleyes:

[lessgov2007]

Ever since I have been interested in David Icke's research and going along the 'conspiracy and spiritual path', one thing has always puzzled me - 'what is the real motive and goal of the illumanati'. I have even been to David's Brixton lecture a couple of years ago - but he still did not give me the answer. Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me. There must be more to it and the only thing I can concur is that as Icke suggests, they are not human, the stories of Nubiru are real, and we are their hybrid creation that was meant to be nothing but slaves. They want to come back and flex their ego and want us back where we were when they created us. The question is - are their good and bad non-human entities.

What are people's thoughts on this concept - or your own feelings on the real motive?

I have asked myself the very same question. However, it's going to take some real evidence before I'm willing to believe "they" are non-human entities, shapeshifting lizards, or any other theory for that matter. That does not mean I wouldn't believe it, just means without some real evidence other than myths, I am not going to accept it as fact. Though, I do consider it a possibility.

We must ask ourselves one thing. When the United States was formed, people were in fact sovereign in the sense that each person was their own king. Those people were in fact truly free in comparison to previous cultures, and the society we have today. The fact is man must be governed. That's sort of hard to accept, but it's the truth. We had freedom, and we failed to protect it. The powers that be could not even be in power today, if we didn't hand over our power to them. By that very nature alone constitutes an act of freedom. We are the reason there exist such great evil in our world today. Since the time of the United States founding fathers men and woman have stopped giving a damn. Thus, we have lost our freedom. If there were enough good men who wanted to change things, it could be done. It's not as if the New World Order was built over night. We all know it took centuries for this plan to be realized.

For centuries we the people of today, and of our past, have simply not cared enough of being free to stand up against the bad guys. By doing so the bad ones rationalize their deeds, because we have acted complacent to those deeds. Is it not a better question, why does man allow himself to be ruled by evil people? Why doesn't the good people have the guts to take charge of their own destinies? In order for a hand full of people to rule, the rest must submit. Why do we simply submit? Because we don't really care about being free, so long as we have our sex, drugs, and rock n' roll. As the saying goes... All that's needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing. And, it's evident that for quite a long time throughout the course of human history, good men have done nothing. That's your answer. Why do they do it? Because we allow them to...:mad:

There real goal is ultimate power, and to have the powers of God(s) on Earth. Power is the motivating factor. Most people have a lust for power, it's not like it's limited to a few bloodlines or non-human entities. And, obviously our goal must be to see that happen, otherwise we wouldn't keep allowing them to work towards achieving that goal. There are more of us than there are of them. We sure spend a lot of time blaming them for this or that, when in reality without our consent they couldn't do anything...

[11indigo11]

:cool: Exactly, my friend.. People don't realize this is just a game to them.. Which, it truly is if, you take part in the polarity game... It's fun for so long.. Then it gets tedious !!! It's all about who's right and who's wrong... It's all bull shit.. Don't buy into this game.. That's what I do..

Thats how it was for a very long time and still is(duality),but yeah that doesnt mean that we cant change it.;)

[11indigo11]

But I do feel that this is a process that life is going through.Duality needs to exist for consciousness to experience certain states of being in different parts of the infinite reality creation process that we are apart off.The only thing that is constant is change,so things will change for its part of the blueprint of the all that is.:)

We are the creators so lets create!:cool:

[free_soul]

They want all the sweets for there self!!

Bastards!!

lol love it.

THEY AINT GETTING MY GOD DAMN FRUIT AND NUT :p:p:p

[helloperator]

The real aim is to have sex with as many different things as they can before they die. That's it.

[lightgiver]

In a nutshell,

power and control

[rossus]

In a nutshell,

power and control
but that they already have and loads of it.
they could easily be extremely powerful and wealthy for their whole lives,
without fucking up the animals and humans to the extent they are doing now.

[lightgiver]

but that they already have and loads of it.
they could easily be extremely powerful and wealthy for their whole lives,
without fucking up the animals and humans to the extent they are doing now.

This is how they keep control of their power,through the control of the resources of the planet and in turn control of the population,who creates their wealth,everyone else and they are scared to death of losing their control,because thus will affect their life styles and wealth,and that goes for a lot of these elites,and they do not care about us or the animals,they have their own clean food supply,some of these folk would find it unbearable to live like most,due to the lives they have led,they look at us as cattle,nothing more nothing less,we mean nothing to them dead or alive.

[guuna]

Hierarchical control. Baboon societies for example are hierarchically controlled. The baboons with higher social rank have lower levels of stress than the lower ranked members, and the lowest ranked members experience the same stress hormone levels as in clinically depressed humans.

It's about control and predictability. A lower ranked baboon who has caught a prey by much effort can have that food taken away by a higher ranked baboon. The higher ranked baboons have control and predictability whereas the lower ranked baboon have the opposite; lack of control and predictability.

Sometimes the baboon societies break down where the hierarchy of social rank falls apart. In times when the social hierarchy collapses, then the higher ranked baboons no longer have control and predictability, and their stress levels increase with impaired immune system and other biological problems as a result. Therefore the higher ranked baboons are very eager to keep the hierarchy of rank intact.

The same in human societies. The elite want to maintain control and predictability. Otherwise they become very vulnerable.

time to roast some of the higher up baboons asses methinks.

specially ones called Brown, Bush, Blair, and Obamie schmamie

[scooby85]

they are paving the way for the arrival of the antichrist/dajjal, they are getting everything in place so when hes here he'll be running the world from jerusalem and united nations will be his headquarters.

[lenejento]

In a nutshell,

power and control

Yes this is to simplistic me thinks. It's that and more.. What? That's the hard to answer question.

I have pondered and had many theories, but can not be sure of any of them.

[cognizant]

They want control and they want us to adore them (why they haven't rolled into our towns with tanks to take control). They want us to voluntarilly worship them.

However, they are highly egotistical and fight among each other. This is why they often seem fragmented. This works to our advantage.

[ceti]

well from all the crap floating around in my head here goes -

the pleiadians say that 5th dimensional is pure love no fear exists there 4th dimensional beings still operate with fear and can use the enregy of fear.

can't remmeber if it was phil schnieder of william cooper who said that the us signed a treaty with the greys who would give the u.s. advanced technology then not so long after a more advanced alien race (human in appearence, probably 5d) said they would help us if we stop nuclear research, disarm and stop our treaty with the greys. they also warned about the greys agenda which was to utilise our dna for there advancment to progress to the 5th dimension.

as for me i don't know


where did you read this?

[particlezen]

the psychopathic traits are prevalent in these elite classes,that's how they get to were they get.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

An almost all-pervasive misconception is that psychopaths are doomed to a life of violence and crime; however, it is possible for psychopaths to be charming, popular and successful in many lines of work.

Otto Kernberg believed that psychopathy should fall under a spectrum of pathological narcissism, that ranged from narcissistic personality on the low end, malignant narcissism in the middle, and psychopathy at the high end. Because of the psychopath's inability to internalize superego precursors, they are typically unable to learn from past mistakes, and are completely devoid of a conscience.

Yes. The majority of functional psychopaths succeed in the business world in management positions.

[Anders Lindman]

time to roast some of the higher up baboons asses methinks.

specially ones called Brown, Bush, Blair, and Obamie schmamie

But after that a new hierarchy would form, unless a new form of order could emerge. A New World Order. Just kidding! :D I mean a Good World Order. The problem is that when a social structure breaks down it needs to be replaced with something better or else we would get a Mad Max kind of society.

[awakensong]

Has anyone ever thought they might be doing this to help us wake up and move on to the higher dimensions? If that is their "assignment" and "role to play" here, then why try to oust or change them? Why not just wake up and transcend this 3rd dimension? If it is written in stone, it cannot be erased or rewritten.

[Anders Lindman]

The Illuminati have a System, that System is our enemy. We need to turn the System into a power source instead of the System turning us into batteries.

http://knilram.org/img/blog/2005.12.06.morpheus.jpg

[awakensong]

Yes, if you have an interest in staying in 3rd Dimension, or returning to Earth again and again. But IF they are put into place to remind us we have come from Elsewhere and that Elsewhere is better for us, aren't they doing their job?

My position is to not give in to them, but not to pay them any attention, either. They are using OUR energy to bring about their purposes, and it's only because we are asleep. The more we talk about it and plan to overthrow or overcome them, the more we are actually helping them hold us here. IMO, we are held here by lower energies. Fighting, fear, anger, etc., are lower energies.

[lightgiver]

Yes. The majority of functional psychopaths succeed in the business world in management positions.

This is correct,this is why it is so corrupt.

[xpleet]

Yes - 'they' want a one world government and yes they want a microchipped population - but 'why'? Saying 'because they want control' and they love 'pain and suffering' does not answer it for me.


The underlying purpose of the creation of suffering is more than just to farm energy.

Behind the evil that created the universe is also a desire of destroying 'purity'.


Does that make sense to you?

[los_nomo]

The underlying purpose of the creation of suffering is more than just to farm energy.

Behind the evil that created the universe is also a desire of destroying 'purity'.


Does that make sense to you?

Perhaps they are just not smart enough to realize their quest for power and control over everything. They don't accept that it CAN'T be done so the closer they are to that the farther they get. The only thing that they can do is deconstruct what has been built (i. e. WWI and WWII, 911) and then call that power and control like a child who cannot get his/her way will throw things and demolish toys ect... The parent knows very well that these reactions will never bring the child what he/she wants. Maybe that is how we should view these horses asses.

[clozaril]

where did you read this?


do a search on here

w cooper and phil schnieder there are vids up on google

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uONHfn0JxNc




ask for accelaration !